FUE Dr. Erkan Demirsoy 3033 Grafts (Turkey, Instanbul)

[shn]

Thanks for the info B-KW.

 

I guess that's why I got no reply I used the form on the website.

 

I shall try contacting Clemens Weber and see what happens.

 

Thanks once again and keep us posted on you results.

[Magpie2121]

Congratulations B-KW on your TP.

 

I too have been looking into getting a TP with Dr Demirsoy. There aren't many reviews for him but the ones that have visited him have been very happy.

 

I understand that Dr Demirsoy offers a manual and automatic extraction method. I also understand he charges 1 Euro for automatic extraction and 2 Euros per manual extraction; is this true? If so, which extraction method did you opt for?

 

Thanks

[B-KW]

Congratulations B-KW on your TP.

 

I too have been looking into getting a TP with Dr Demirsoy. There aren't many reviews for him but the ones that have visited him have been very happy.

 

I understand that Dr Demirsoy offers a manual and automatic extraction method. I also understand he charges 1 Euro for automatic extraction and 2 Euros per manual extraction; is this true? If so, which extraction method did you opt for?

 

Thanks

 

Correct, 1 Euro for motirized 2 Euro for manual. I went for motorized (micro motor tool) because i had already done my research and was convinced that Dr. Demirsoy could perform this method with high success/low transection rate, similar to manual. Will have to wait and see whether i made the right decision, i hope so...

[kokosam]

Do you guys have any idea how long after a procedure can someone shave his head with a razor or a machine with no guard? or one will not be able to do so once the FUE is performed due to the tens of hundreds of scars?

In other word,s how is the donor area nowadays, B-KW? If you shave it all of will the punch markings be visible/noticeable?

I would really appreciate any input on that matter.

[agenteye]

I imagine if you completely "bic'ed" your head, you might be able to see the white scars....depending on how long it has been since the procedure. However, the scars are so minimal in most cases, that unless someone were right up against your head with a magnifying glass, chances are it wouldn't be noticeable; especially in most lighting. Also, when you clip your hair with a no-guard clipper cut, you still leave a tiny bit of hair (although very short) behind.....and it's not the same as shaving down to completely skin as you would with a razor. I imagine that the stubble left behind from the clippers would help to conceal the "scars" pretty well....and it most likely wouldn't be noticeable. Again, all of this depends on the patient, his scarring characteristics, and the skill and precision of the surgeon who performed the procedure.

[kokosam]

Thanks a lot Agent for your help.

[greatjob]

Correct, 1 Euro for motirized 2 Euro for manual. I went for motorized (micro motor tool) because i had already done my research and was convinced that Dr. Demirsoy could perform this method with high success/low transection rate, similar to manual. Will have to wait and see whether i made the right decision, i hope so...

Damn I wish these doctors in Turkey performed strip also, as I'm not a fue candidate except to maybe finish everything off at the end. If they did you could probably get like 0.25 Euro per graft, haha!!

[Nick153452]

Damn I wish these doctors in Turkey performed strip also, as I'm not a fue candidate except to maybe finish everything off at the end. If they did you could probably get like 0.25 Euro per graft, haha!!

 

I don't think it would be any cheaper than Dr. Rhadha in India, personally. India is much cheaper in general than any European country, I would think... Dr. Rhadha does some good work, go to her

[kokosam]

Damn I wish these doctors in Turkey performed strip also, as I'm not a fue candidate except to maybe finish everything off at the end. If they did you could probably get like 0.25 Euro per graft, haha!!

Hey greajob,

If you do not mind me asking, why you are saying you FUE is not suitable for you?

[greatjob]

Hey greajob,

If you do not mind me asking, why you are saying you FUE is not suitable for you?

Because I have lower donor density, but high scalp laxity. I would have been very lucky to get 3000 grafts from fue alone, which would have done nothing for me as I am thinning in a NW 6 pattern. I have gotten a little over 4000 grafts so far from strip with probably 3000-4000 grafts left over my lifetime depending on how well my laxity returns, but it seems good so far.

 

I don't think it would be any cheaper than Dr. Rhadha in India, personally. India is much cheaper in general than any European country, I would think... Dr. Rhadha does some good work, go to her

It was just hypothetical wishful thinking, if he's charging 1 euro/graft, it would have to be cheaper for strip. Think about 0.5 or 0.25 euro/graft and getting results like Demirsoy is putting out with fue, a guy can dream can't he

[B-KW]

Do you guys have any idea how long after a procedure can someone shave his head with a razor or a machine with no guard? or one will not be able to do so once the FUE is performed due to the tens of hundreds of scars?

In other word,s how is the donor area nowadays, B-KW? If you shave it all of will the punch markings be visible/noticeable?

I would really appreciate any input on that matter.

 

 

Sorry for the delayed response. Agenteye pretty much summed it all up. Other than thinning which u can see in my last set of pics (exhausted my donor in 1 HT unfortunately) i would say everything else looks the same as it did pre-op. Also the folliculitis/acne pimples have cleared, i just randomly get 1 from time to time. I have been trimming whole head with a 1-2 guard for the past 3 weeks as it looks much better that way. No signs of white scarring and i dare not ask family members to check again as they think that i'm being way too obsessive about my hair

 

I am 48 days post-op today incase you're wondering.

 

*edit* Would also like to add that i dont think it's a good idea to trim without a guard at this stage as it could possibly irritate the skin and cause acne/folliculitis. But each patient is different i guess...

[kokosam]

Thanks a lot B-KW for your help.

[B-KW]

Hey guys, i would like a little bit of input regarding my sides. Below are some pictures of my horrible thinning pre-op. Just to clarify, i did not have any HT work done prior to these pictures being taken (no meds either). Pictures were taken at Demirsoy's office right before my shave/surgery.

 

Also, i originally didn't want to post these as to avoid any criticism from the community wether it be towards Demirsoy performing this operation on a non-ideal candidate or my willingness to have it done. Call me a fool all you want, but believe me i have done my research and was not willing to go back home empty handed. Simply put, i wanted to make the best out of what i had now and not think too much of the future (although highly likely that the future will come biting me in the ass if my sides recede as i will have to resort to BHT). This is also the reason i have hopped on Dutasteride immediately after the HT.

 

Demirsoy was not happy to perform on me nor did he want to really... His whole staff advised against it, the agent, the techs, and so on.. It was my desperation and persistance that made him finally agree to use limited grafts as my back donor seemed ok. The thing is my online consultation pictures were not clear and only after taking the trip to Turkey did the extent of my diffuse become apparent. In other words, i slipped through the cracks as most doctors would say no to me.

 

Moving on to my question... Anyone know what the right diagnosis for my side hair diffuse loss is? DUPA, AGA, or just normal MPB/Genetics? Reason why im hesitant to label it as DUPA is because my back donor was fairly dense (with the exception of 2 small areas labeled in picture 3). While Demirsoy did point out the diffuse, he did not give me an exact diagnosis. Also, the lighting Demirsoy uses in before/after pictures is really bright. They look nowhere near this bad in real life... Anyways let me know what you think.. most derms and hair specialists in this country are useless! Would rather hear from you guys instead. Thanks!

 

Oh and i will have my TSH/Iron levels checked in a few days just incase..

[kokosam]

From my little experience I can tell that this is definitely not DUPA, if you look DUPA up you will find out that DUPA sufferers do not have the density you have. In addition, I think DUPA is relatively rare.

Habiby, your donor area looked fine, and if the procedure was a complete contraindication, believe me Dr. Demirsoy would never do it.

You have waited enough for the procedure and the time came and you have done it. Just few more weeks to come and you will find yourself up the moon with your results.

Nothing to worry about, just do your job, keep taking your medications (watch for side effects), document your progress, and that is it

Besides that I am sure there is a good Egyptian dermatologist hiding somewhere in Kuwait, you know the deal about Egyptian Drs. ))

[KO]

It's hard to tell, morphologically, it looks like it might be DUPA, but your donor looks stable. IMO, and totally uneducated opinion, I think DUPA is used a little to broadly on these forums, you may just have a very aggressive MPB patter rather than actual DUPA.

 

I am very interested in seeing your results, I would also advise you to buzz hair down rather than keeping it longer. Buzzed hair + darker skin can look good IMO.

[B-KW]

kokosam and KO thank you both for your advice. KO, you are correct about the buzz cut. I plan to keep my hair real short just like in the pictures i posted of 2 weeks post op. Also i have high hopes that dutasteride will do some work in the crown area. Thanks again guys.

[cloudy]

Any news in progress?

[hairytime]

I am also thinking of having surgery with Dr Demisroy. Would you recommened?

[B-KW]

Hello, not too much to report. Had the procedure done on 25th of June so today is a little over 2 months. Getting slight early growth here and there (nothing too drastic) but can tell that the hairs coming out are new due to thickness/feel when rubbing my scalp. Donor/recepient back to normal for a long time now, not even the slightest redness. Will update with pictures at 3 or 4 months when i see some significant changes.

 

hairytime, i would rather not mislead people and overhype a doctor before i get a chance to see my own results. So far i am happy with the doctor's high professionalism and his involvement in most of the procedure. His work is very clean and i had minimal downtime after procedure. When i get my hair ill start bombarding random threads with "DEMIRSOY FOR PRESIDENT!!" like a fanboy

[cloudy]

B-KW, can you send me private message since I can't send you one, I am locked for some reason. I have few questions to ask you about your procedure, please

[hairytime]

He sounds professional and the more information i can gather the better. Sounds like you aee happy so far. Best of luck with your growth. Im sure you will be sprouting up in no time. I have more or less made my mind up to proceed with Dr Demisroy. Anything i have heard about him has been positive. For me patient reviews are what matters. Looking foward to hearing about your results

[cloudy]

For some reason I cannot reply to your message.

I contacted Clemens Weber and he responded 6 days ago that he will answer me as soon as Dr Demirsoy sees my photos but until now no response. Did you wait that long too?

[B-KW]

Cloudy i sent you a PM. It took Clemens an average of 2-3 days to get back to me. Might take longer if its a weekend. You can always try calling him if you want.

 

Hairytime, thank you. Before you make your final decision, i suggest you consult Demirsoy or his agent about his patient care policy if he has one. I did not get into much detail with him about this because my donor supply was limited to 1 session only which means that any future work would require BHT anyway. Demirsoy does not do any kind of BHT unfortunately.

 

Also, i scanned through and signed a short contract prior to surgery. I believe it mentions the obvious risks of folliculitis, scarring, etc. and states that the doctor cannot be held accountable for certain things. Try and get a better idea as to whether you would get any kind of support/fix if things go wrong. As you are probably aware by now, Demirsoy is not recommended by this forum yet. Not that it should discourage you though as there are many potential great doctors out there that have yet to be discovered. Best of luck!

[cloudy]

I can only read messages in my email but on forum. Anyway, still waiting to unlock that option if that's the problem.

Thanks for reply, I'll wait for some days more and call him to see what's going on.

[hairytime]

Very true B-kw. Patient aftercare is something thats important. I understand that he cant be held responsible for issues outside his contol but i still think its worthwhile to check out what he may offer in terms of patient care. I have good donor areas so im hoping that this will not be an issue. I have a guideline of somwhere between 2000 to 2500 grafts to my crown area. I know that this particular area can test the surgeons skill, so heres hoping B-KW.