Senior Member Spanker Posted July 18, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Are you tanning or is that just the lighting? I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Birdness Posted July 18, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Attached are some 6 week pics. Sill in the awkward phase where the side needs to be long enough to cover the healing scar and the top is thinner and growing much slower then the sides. Baby steps. This part sucks. "4700 total grafts w/ Dr. Konior" breathe and repeat. I hate this stage. All pics under very bright light. Pic of just hair is the donor area. Does Dr Konior recommend using Minoxidil post op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted July 18, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Does Dr Konior recommend using Minoxidil post op? Yes he does, starting 7 days post op. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted July 18, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Attached are some 6 week pics. Sill in the awkward phase where the side needs to be long enough to cover the healing scar and the top is thinner and growing much slower then the sides. Baby steps. This part sucks. "4700 total grafts w/ Dr. Konior" breathe and repeat. I hate this stage. All pics under very bright light. Pic of just hair is the donor area. Doesn't look too bad. Have you tried covering it up with concealers? 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yes, have toppik and nanogen. Too short and thin. Looks like dirt on skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Does Dr Konior recommend using Minoxidil post op? Yes. I use 2x per day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2013 Are you tanning or is that just the lighting? Outside a lot.'with hat on. A lot of it is lighting too that is why there is the contrast from scalp to skin. My hair and scalp is kept long and out of the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 Nothing much to report. This is where the nerves kick in. I got 2400+ grafts throughout entire scalp for density. Im still shedding very frequently in the sink and showers. Still usinf finasteride on M, W,F. Rogaine foam 2x /day. Pics from Iphone not too detailed. Really eager to see how almost 5000 Konior placed hair grafts will look like once this 2nd procedure grows in. The scar is looking better and better. My wide can trim s little lower each time she cuts it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 6, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 Looks like you are about back to preop but its hard to tell. 5000 over an entire scalp isn't going to look too thick, so hopefully you are able to retain you native hair. Did the doctor give a guestimate on what is left in your donor bank? Thinks should be uphill from here. Good luck man. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted September 7, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 No info on what donor area is remaining. Looking forward to the next few months. Realistically i know the coverage will not be a huge improvement. We did coverage throughout a larger area because i would rather shoot for average coverage all over then have decent frontal coverage and a completely bald crown/frontal crown. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 7, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 No info on what donor area is remaining. Looking forward to the next few months. Realistically i know the coverage will not be a huge improvement. We did coverage throughout a larger area because i would rather shoot for average coverage all over then have decent frontal coverage and a completely bald crown/frontal crown. Only time will tell. I agree that is a small amount spread over that large of an area. Why did you not shoot for more grafts? Risk of native? I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted September 7, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 The goal was as many grafts as possible. We shot for as mych as we could. I have had procedures of 2300+grafts with Konior, 600+ with another surgeon in the frontal area, and the most recent 2400+ from Konior. Only so much you can get out of some people. As you can see there are some areas currently patchier then others on my scalp. Hopefully this allowed some areas to take more donor hair then others. My bangs and mid frontal areas as seen in the pics have solid coverage mostly from Koniors last procedure. Hopefully it all balances out as I have 9 months of growing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted September 22, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2013 Just a quick update: Been experiencing a large amount of shedding as I am about one week from the four month mark. Some ingrown hairs are randomly showing up spread out around my scalp. I can easily run my fingers through my hair in the morning and get 20+ in the sink. Also there are hairs in the shower everyday after use. I'm not going to go crazy by counting them all but a fair amount are not diffused or thin, they are dark and thick. Hopefully this is just a part of the cycle of things but it has gone on for about 6 weeks. I have not noticed a thinner head of hair. I am still on rogaine 2x/day and 1.25 finasteride 4x/week. As I know the game is to be patient since this is my 2nd procedure with DrKonior; I must ask if anyone else has experienced a large she around the 4 month post op mark or later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Nick153452 Posted September 22, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2013 That seems like excessive shedding to me. I went back to normal hair shedding after about 1 month. Is it part of the finasteride shed? How long have you been on the meds, finasteride and minox? My Hair Loss Website Surgical Treatments: Hair transplant 5-22-2013 with Dr. Paul Shapiro at Shapiro Medical Group Total grafts transplanted: 3222 *536 singles *1651 doubles * 961 triples, *74 quadruples. Total hairs transplanted: 7017 Non-Surgical Treatments: *1.25 mg finasteride daily *Generic minoxidil foam 2x daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted September 22, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2013 Finasteride and Minoxidil for a year. I have attached some pics. Please note my hair is shorter then usual. About 1/2 the length of my pre-op. Also I run outside in the summer which is why my hair is lighter in the May summer pre-op and darker in this late September pic. I do not dye my hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 22, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2013 Looks on point for 4 months. You should have at least another 4 to 5 months of new growth plus maturation. I think that given it was 2400 grafts over such a large area, it won't be a terribly drastic change, but it will be a nice and noticeable boost. 4 months is kind of hard because I think that is when worrying and wondering really kicks in, but that is when the growth really kicks in too, so give it a few months and I think you will see a nice improvement. It already looks a bit better than preop to me, but it is in different lighting so its hard to tell. As far as the shedding, how long have you been doing M-W-F fin and have you changed your routine any as far as minox or other meds? For me, that is pretty normal shedding, but I have a lot of native and I think I shed more than most, and always have. I get 20-30 hairs per day in the shower, but I figure that leaves me up to a little over twice that during the day and I am still in normal limits, so I try not to let it bother me so much. I think the biggest thing about shedding is the caliber of hair that you are shedding, as long as say, 20 percent or less are miniaturized, it shouldn't be a huge deal, but if you have any questions or concerns, email Dr. Konior and he will get back to you. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted September 22, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2013 Thanks for the encouraging words. Dr Konior and I have exchanged several emails and we are good with where I am at and the preventative protocol. I was looking to see if anyone else experienced any shedding like I have. Glad I am not the only one. Time will tell on this one. Thanks for the encouragement. I am considering pushing the finasteride back up to 1.25mg/ day. It had some libido and bloating issues for me when taken everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted October 26, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 26, 2013 5 months post op. Still shedding. Still taking minoxadil and finasteride as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 16, 2014 Sorry for not having many updates. As a teacher it is crazy for those 9 months. I spoke with Dr. Konior about some concerns mentioned in this thread in regards to shedding, ect.. After talking I decided to wait 1 year before I posted my results and give a final assessment and evaluation on my earlier 2300 graft procedure, and most recent 2400 graft procedure 11 months ago. Currently I am growing my hair out to the exact length it was in the pre-op pics to further bring an accurate end result picture. My graft totals: 1st Procedure with Dr. Konior 2300 grafts on frontal 1/3 2nd Procedure with Dr. Konior 2400 grafts throughout top portion Total Grafts: 4700 from Dr. Konior (600 from another Dr earlier) total of 5300 grafts Final result will be posted soon as I approach the one year mark. Thanks for being patient as I have stayed away from the mirror to not drive myself crazy with critiquing and checking for shedding. I have been on point for long time on 1.25 propecia ED, Rogain Brand Minox Foam 2x/day: Ketenezole shampoo 1x perday. Lots of hair based multivitamins, ect.. Really wanted to go all out to get the most out of this final assessment. Will post pictures soon as I near that 1 year mark. My apologies to the several personal message and email responses for those wanting to see where I was for the past 6 months. Photos coming soon and thank you for such great support. It never disappoints me how great of a community support forum this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted April 16, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2014 I was reading your story, I had a similar situation where a condition I have made me use a product that negatively impacted otherwise great HT growth. It really sucked but Dr. K helped me get back on track with a second procedure. Hope you are growing well and are overcoming your situation! go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Since21 Posted April 16, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2014 Midwest00, I just read about your journey. What an emotional roller coaster this must have been for you. Wishing you the best in every regard. 3,425 FUT grafts with Dr Raymond Konior - Nov 2013 1,600 FUE grafts with Dr Raymond Konior - Dec 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted April 17, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 17, 2014 I was reading your story, I had a similar situation where a condition I have made me use a product that negatively impacted otherwise great HT growth. It really sucked but Dr. K helped me get back on track with a second procedure. Hope you are growing well and are overcoming your situation! Thank you. It is all day by day for the last couple of years. I have been off those products for a while now and hoping the finasteride, rogaine, and 2nd HT make for a nice result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midwest00 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I am officially 1 year post op. Thank you for all the kind words and interest in my recent PM box and to those who are in this forum. My story is detailed and long so I appreciate the time so many have taken to read it. The first picture is the day of the surgery. For the attached pics I used the same lighting in the same room. I am scheduled to see Dr. Konior for my 1 year post op in early June. I am also looking forward to his pictures with a more professional camera to show some detail. This also is not the final result as some transplants can take longer I was told Currently I am still taking 1.25mg Finasteride/day, Rogaine Foam 2x/day, and Ketenezole 1x/day. I also went and had bloodwork around month 8-9 to check my testosterone and DHT levels. Testosterone levels were in range but the DHT level was low. This at least helped reassure me that DHT was not high and was successfully being suppressed through Finasteride treatment My graft totals: 1st Procedure with Dr. Konior 2300 grafts on frontal 1/3 2nd Procedure with Dr. Konior 2400 grafts throughout top portion Total Grafts: 4700 from Dr. Konior (600 from another Dr earlier) total of 5300 grafts Edited May 31, 2014 by Midwest00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Since21 Posted May 26, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted May 26, 2014 Realistically i know the coverage will not be a huge improvement. We did coverage throughout a larger area because i would rather shoot for average coverage all over then have decent frontal coverage and a completely bald crown/frontal crown. Looking forward to hearing what Dr. K says about what you have remaining in your donor bank for added density. But based on what you stated above, I'd say your goals have been met. Congrats! 3,425 FUT grafts with Dr Raymond Konior - Nov 2013 1,600 FUE grafts with Dr Raymond Konior - Dec 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted May 26, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted May 26, 2014 Ketenezole 1x/day. Once a day? Not sure that's a good idea. Twice a week at most. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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