Senior Member Jotronic Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong are known world wide for being true innovators in the field of hair restoration. Dense packing, the Lateral Slit Technique, donor closures, etc. They are also known for being able to safely harvest more hair in one procedure than any other clinic. We were the first clinic to document and share on the forums 4000 grafts in one procedure, 5000 then 6000 grafts. We then shared 7000 grafts and 8000 grafts in a single procedure. No other clinic has ever achieved this. I'm excited to share that Dr. Hasson has now broken the seemingly impossible barrier of 9000 grafts in a single procedure. The exact number is actually 9168 grafts, again, in a single procedure. The patient is from Italy and as any patient that gets this many grafts in a single session his donor density and donor laxity were above average. Hopefully he'll give us permission to share his photos. Regardless, I wanted to share this achievement with the group. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RCWest Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 :eek: That's unbelievable! How many more grafts does he have left? A lot of men don't have that many grafts no matter how many sessions. I really hope you get permission to post his photos. I'd love to see this! Finasteride 1.25 mg. daily Avodart 0.5 mg. daily Spironolactone 50 mg twice daily 5 mg. oral Minoxidil twice daily Biotin 1000 mcg daily Multi Vitamin daily Damn, with all the stuff you put in your hair are you like a negative NW1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LSorvats Posted April 4, 2012 Regular Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don’t mean to be controversial, but I consider that to be irresponsible behavior by the clinic. I have only the best things to say about H+W and their work is always top notch, but this achievement is nothing to be proud about. Instead (and in my opinion) it demonstrates that the patient has no (or very little) back up to go through a future follow up procedure which I can only imagine will one day be necessary seeing as that person needed so many grafts in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm so jealous Joe, well done to Dr Hasson and the team. Dr Hasson told me about this before when I met him saying you get attacked on forums anyway, how can it be irresponsible? How can a clinic like them with their experience be reckless or irresponsible? The patient must've needed those grafts if he's that bald. If 9k were extracted in one sitting it means he still has at least a few thousand left in the tank anyway when his density & laxity are crazy. What will the patient save the grafts for? Christmas? He needs to enjoy them now. He might be done or almost done with hair transplants now anyway. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 That is great to hear Joe, I wonder what the scar will be like. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shampoo Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Dr Hasson told me about this before when I met him saying you get attacked on forums anyway, how can it be irresponsible? How can a clinic like them with their experience be reckless or irresponsible? Talented people who push the envelope are often chastised. "hey you can't do that....no one else does!" "that's not the way it's done around here" "thats never been done before!" Some lead....others follow. Hasson/Wong & several other top doctors lead the field. 2EachHisOwn.... Dr. Dow Stough - 1000 Grafts - 1996 Dr. Jerry Wong - 4352 Grafts - August 2012 Dr. Jerry Wong - 2708 Grafts - May 2016 Remember a hair transplant turns back the clock, but it doesn't stop the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mattj Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Well done. What Norwood level did he start from? Did he have a scalp of rubber? I am a patient and representative of Dr Rahal. My FUE Procedure With Dr Rahal - Awesome Hairline Result I can be contacted for advice: matt@rahalhairline.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 How long was that guy in the freaking surgical chair??? Ha Congrats...nice work H&W... Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted April 4, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Thank you for all of your comments. LSorvats, I understand and can appreciate your concern on this issue but what a lot of people don't understand is that if a patient can get a larger than average amount of hair in their first procedure they can get still get more hair in subsequent procedures, just like any other patient. It's a relative issue. Take this patient below for example. He received 8402 grafts in one procedure. I've posted several of his updates over the past few months and when we were in Spain three weeks ago he was kind enough to drive a few hours to Madrid to show us his ten month result. After examining his result we were obviously more than pleased, as is he, but Dr. Hasson also noted that he could get another 5000 grafts in a second procedure. His donor scar is also virtually undetectable. Below is a teaser before/after set of images but I've got full HD video being edited as well as many more photos to share to show off this fantastic result. The number of grafts that are possible in a second procedure are relative to what was safely taken in the first procedure. It stands to reason that if these patients can get more in one procedure than the average patient has in "x" number of procedures then their respective maximum limits will also be higher than the average patient. I hope I explained this reasonably well. If you have more questions just let me know. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Jo That makes perfect sense..when I had my procedure with Dr Rahal...before the surgery I asked him...keep in mind when were shooting for 4000 grafts on a corrective procedure... anyway I asked him " if we get 4000 grafts, how many do you think I will have left in the bank"...he told me ....I will tell you after surgery!!! Well after he got the 4800, he told me I had at least 3500-4000 left...he said I was in really great shape so I certainly understand that concept!! Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Joe, That's incredible...I'm almost speechless. Kudos to Dr. Hasson for pushing the envelope and shattering his old record. As you know, a picture is worth a thousand words. So why not celebrate by posting some before and surgical photos of this patient? Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted April 4, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Ok, here is the update. The patient finally left the office at about 12:30 this morning. Here are some of the photos I am allowed to share at this time. The patient is about a NW5 although the frontal scalp has a bit more hair than a typical NW5. This photo shows the density in the slivers that were prepared before final dissection. His hair is coarse as well so the final numbers combined with his native hair should provide for a pretty spectacular result. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 There is a God. Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Jo No kidding how long did this surgery take? My 4900 felt like an eternity...Im just wondering how long from start to finish he was actually at the clinic?? Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted April 4, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 NewHair, It took about 15 to 16 hours I believe. Several years ago this would have been impossible had it not been for continuing efforts to refine our procedures. I remember when Dr. Wong was the first to break the 5000 graft barrier way back in 2004. It was 5825 grafts and it took 16 hours to finish. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StaggerLee123 Posted April 4, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2012 Whoa! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted April 5, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 5, 2012 9,168 grafts, WOW!!! I wonder how many hairs that is. This guy is going to have an amazing result. He wont have to worry about a thing after this. The work looks outstanding and very clean. This is definitely a result I am going to stay tuned for. Amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member wylie Posted April 5, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 5, 2012 That's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted April 6, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 6, 2012 Scary. If I were him, I'd become a narcissistic Don Juan. :cool: 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member orlhair1 Posted April 6, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 6, 2012 Truly amazing! Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUT 6/14/11 - 3048 grafts Surgery - Dr. Ron Shapiro FUE 1/28/13 & 1/29/13 - 1513 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/orlhair1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HARIRI Posted April 6, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 6, 2012 Well If I was in his place I would be scared to use all of these grafts once. But honestly talking Dr. Hasson has outstanding stamina to perform this super large operation. Also I love his clean work, I was thinking with these many grafts the patient's scalp would be totally red and covered with blood but it ended up with a very clean looking head. Jotronic can you share with us whats the expected density of this patient, hairline, mid scalp and crown? Just curious. Now I can call H&W as the kings of Mega session. Plug removal + Strip scar revision - Dr. Ali Karadeniz (AEK)- May 23, 2015 Plug removal + 250 FUE temple points- Dr. Hakan Doganay (AHD)- July 3, 2013 Scar Tricopigmentation- Dr. Koray Erdogan (ASMED)- May 3, 2013 2500 FUT (Hairline Repair)- Dr. Rahal- July 26, 2011 My Hair Treatments: 1- Alpecin Double Effect Shampoo (Daily) 2- Regaine Solution Minoxidil 5% (2 ml once a day) 3- GNC Ultra NourishHair™ (Once a day) 4- GNC Herbal Plus Standardized Saw Palmetto (Once a day) My Rahal HT thread http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/164456-2500-fut-dr-rahal-hairline-repair.html[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted April 6, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 6, 2012 Announcing the exciting news at our Hair Loss Q & A blog: Coalition Surgeons Dr. Victor Hasson and Jerry Wong Break Hair Transplant Surgery Records by Implanting over 9,000 grafts in Single Procedure Congratulations guys! "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutch Posted April 6, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 6, 2012 Well If I was in his place I would be scared to use all of these grafts once. But honestly talking Dr. Hasson has outstanding stamina to perform this super large operation. Also I love his clean work, I was thinking with these many grafts the patient's scalp would be totally red and covered with blood but it ended up with a very clean looking head. Jotronic can you share with us whats the expected density of this patient, hairline, mid scalp and crown? Just curious. Now I can call H&W as the kings of Mega session. Lol, only NOW you can call them the kings of mega sessions Hariri?? They've always have been. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted April 6, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) It's amazing how some people don't understand that if you have good laxity you have way more donor and using 8000 is the same as 4000 with lower laxity it's all about ratios some people like my self actually have a extra roll of scalp that's visible without moving or touching it even though I've removed over 8000 grafts so far. The back of my scalp is like the bottom of a fat mans stomach draping down which is the best way to explain it. Good laxity doesn't just mean your scalp is stretchy some people actually have way more grafts because they have way more scalp. So if you stretched out my virgin donor flat without rolls its likely I would have twice as much length than someone's with low laxity. Simples!! H&W have always been kings of the megasessions all though some are catching up they're always a step behind this may be because H&W are quite willing to share tools and developments with other surgeons. Joe are you sure that's a nw5 it looks more 6 to me its very wide? Edited April 6, 2012 by bonkerstonker Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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