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hi, I am a 24 year old male suffering from male pattern balding. I have started using finalo(finasteride) 1 mg and nizral 2% shampoo to reduce the levels of dht in my body. I also work out at gym and take whey protein isolate. My question is will the reduction in the levels of dht in my body by nizral and finalo be cancelled out by body building and whey protein or not. I mean like should I stop taking whey protein. If any one could answer the above in a yes or no manner it would be great.

 

Thanks and regards

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"Whey protein contains nothing which causes hair loss. But, what you have to remember is, protein (any protein) coupled with weight training increases testosterone, which increases DHT, which in individuals cursed with balding, will make them balder – if they aren’t taking a DHT blocker such as Propecia.

 

If you are training and eating for muscle, it’s inevitable your testosterone will increase, and if you have the baldness genes, your hair loss will increase. You then have a decision to make – do you stop training, have a Mr. Average body and just slowly watch your hair fall out over a longer time period… or do you continue training, build a great body (and enjoy doing so) and maybe run the risk of losing hair quicker due to higher DHT levels? That’s your choice. If you’re going bald – you’re going to go bald anyway, sooner or later. Why agonize over it?

 

Also, I’m no doctor, but my logic is this: Get an appointment with your doctor and get on Propecia."

 

So the answer seems to be that there IS an effect. But I imagine it differs from person to person, as our biochemical makeups are all really varied. It's kind of impossible to answer whether or not DHT is reduction "cancelled out"--but it's certainly affected.

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thank you for your reply.... I am gonna continue going to the gym... hopefully nizral and finalo will take care of the increased levels of dht in my body

 

thanks and regards,

Shivam Sharma

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Weight training only temporarily increases testosterone levels and in theory certainly not long enough for it to be converted to any harmful DHT - (unless you're training for 8 hours a day). Personally I have been Weight training for a few years now, high protein diet (300+ grams) per day and my hair is in as good shape as ever. I would say you will be fine as you are on the finast+nizarol so there is no problem with DHT

 

Reports do suggest creatine can increase DHT though.

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A lot of the huge pro bodybuilders like Jay Cutler still have awesome hair. I've read a lot of articles that bodybuilding only increases testosterone temporarily, like just a few hours. Protein powder should actually help your hair because of the added protein plus the amino acids like L Arginine and L Lysine are good for blood flow and collagen production. Just stay away from steroids or supplements like DHEA, Androstenedione, etc.

Finasteride 1.25 mg. daily

Avodart 0.5 mg. daily

Spironolactone 50 mg twice daily

5 mg. oral Minoxidil twice daily

Biotin 1000 mcg daily

Multi Vitamin daily

 

Damn, with all the stuff you put in your hair are you like a negative NW1? :D

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I have been a semi-serious weight lifter on and off over the last 8-10 years.

 

While I saw a higher increase in shedding when on supplements (creatine, whey, Nitric Oxide,) and a lower increase when bulking up without supplements, I have always seen at least some shedding while lifting weights. Provided I'm lifting enough to make a difference (e.g. build muscles, reshape body, lowered voice).

 

I think the reason for this is because food is by far the most androgenic thing you can (legally) put in your body.

 

Although, I will admit I could work out harder on creatine and NO, I still believe the supplement market is mainly there to make money off the fools who don't know this.

 

The reason many athletes and pro bodybuilders don't have hair loss, is they are probably not prone to it. Some people just don't have those genes.

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is there no medical certified profession who can share their view on this matter? .. It would be great to know of a concrete response.. although varied.. there should be at least some indications ...

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I don't think there have been enough studies done on this.

 

But honestly, even if there had been, are you going to believe the science or what your own body tells you?

 

I have an analytic and scientific mind, and tremendous respect for the scientific community, but you really have to trust the empirical evidence that your own body shows you.

 

Let me put it more bluntly- Let's say a study shows that bodybuilding does not cause hair loss - but when you personally lift weights, you lose more hair - is the science going to put that hair back on your head?

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