A vEry saD 8th month update ..

[Mr.Nk]

8 months and 10 days to be exact !

 

well till now not a single person has noticed about my hair transplant .. lol .. i wont blame them either ! .. i have noticed red spots on my scalp this month(last pic) .. there are not like those which i got before when the hair were popping out in the 4-6 months .. i hope i dont have some new problem coming

 

first there was necrosis ... then my surgical procedure to fix that .. then bad hair growth ... and now some new infection? ... i dont think i have the courage left to go thru another HT ...

 

 

 

.... is this heading towards a complete failure ? or is it already one ?

Edited September 9, 2010 by Mr.Nk

[Blake Bloxham]

Mr NK,

 

I know it's tough and you're not satisfied with the growth, but I really think you should hold off until the 12 month before declaring the procedure a success or disappointment.

 

When was the last time you spoke with your hair transplant surgeon (Dr. Humayun I believe)?

 

If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. Otherwise, good luck and wait a bit longer before fully analyzing the results!

[Megatron]

sorry to see / hear about your experience thus far. to be brutally honest, yes, your results thus far are poor and I think it's very unlikely that you'll achieve a satisfactory result.

 

that said, most guys require a 2nd pass so you're definitely not alone.

[RCWest]

I've got those exact same red dots like yours and mine grew in fine. I'm wondering if it isn't from too large of a graft in a small hole or a histamine reaction. Do they get redder after a warm shower?

 

Regardless, you should have a good percentage of growth in. Who did your surgery and how long did they take?

[Mr.Nk]

Thanks Future_HT_Doc for the kind offer but i guess there is nothing better to do than to wait for 12 months .. i guess my next update will be after 2 months now ..

 

and megatron i know almost everyone requires a second pass but considering the experience in the first .. who knows if the second one will be smooth as anything .. there is a fear embedded in my head of going thru the same all over again !!

 

and RCWest ..Dr.Humayun Mohmand did surgery with 2700-3000 grafts!

my big no growth area (necrotic) turns tomato red when i take a bath or play outdoor sports ... but today ill again check if the spots turn more red or get bigger after a bath ...

[1966kph]

hello nk,you seem very down at the moment and rightly so as there seems to be little or no change month after month,as i've said before i sincerely hope your a late bloomer and in the months to come you acheive maximum growth,all the best and have a nice day.......

[j1j9j85]

im sorry for you man........

 

some of us here all know your pain and i wish you the all best....

 

my advise would be to shave it all down to a no 3 forget avbout it for now look after yourself and try to max growth with meds and wait untill the 12month mark....... reevaluate then!!!!

 

but personaly i would be emailing the surgeon for some money back to go towards a surgery at another clinic who excell in repairs, warn them now and get booked in aftre the 12 months mark is up...

 

as i know its hard going for a nother transplant so soon as i had one july 09 and then another july 10 and its brutal on you will power.....but if you have the grafts and you have some cash towards it go to a top dr and im sure they will do the best for you... and in 12 months time you will be happy

 

there is always light at the end of the tunnel no matter how dim!!

[wb280]

mr nk, time flies, i remembered asking u for update and here it comes after a couple of months. To be honest, i cannot say i am glad with such results. Nothing much as changed, except that your scalp looks a bit reddish

 

I think its high time u approach the doc and understand exactly what happened

 

my heart feels for u mr nk and morally we will support u. Let us know!

[aaron1234]

It's 8 months so there is still time... but it's not looking good and you should talk with your doc.

[Mp96]

8 months, yeah relax and wait for the results.....!!!!!LoL!!!

[the B spot]

I would start planning to see other doctors and getting additional opinions. I remember when you posted your issues several months ago...necrosis is no light matter.....while it is good to hold out hope, the fact is, your results are likely compromised. Speak with Dr. Mohamed about what he is prepared to do, as opposed to simply waiting.

 

We will be here to help along the way mate.

 

Take Care,

Jason

[Surfarosa]

8 months, yeah relax and wait for the results.....!!!!!LoL!!!

 

Mp96 - did you have a point ?

[EpilepticSceptic]

Demand a refund and seek out the advice of only the very best.

 

I'd personally recommend Dr. Hasson or Wong.

 

Sorry you have had to go thru this!

[Mp96]

Mp96 - did you have a point ?

 

 

Surfarosa,

 

Patient now received excellent reputable advice....The majority of us here know, no need to make any further "points."

[Octamus]

I believe its still too early to call but is there any reason or clue as to way the results are not as good as they could be...

[Sean]

I would definitely get in touch with the doctor, but even if it means waiting out a few more months. Once you cross the 12 month mark then I would definitely see what's up.

 

Have you contacted the Dr. again? What is he saying? Is the doc willing to help you out in some way? I personally think that the results should be better, but then I don't know much about necrosis either. Are you taking propecia/rogiane as well?

[TakingThePlunge]

Mr. NK,

 

I've been following your progress and I'm very sorry for the complications and poor growth that you have received. I know the thought of going through another procedure is overwhelming but it may be necessary for you. After experiencing less than stellar growth from my first hair transplant I opted to go through another procedure 14 months after my first and I'm glad that I did.

 

Let me say that, based on your photos, I am not optimistic that you will see acceptable growth over the next 4 months but it is important to wait out the 12 month period before assessing and planning for a second procedure.

 

For those who questioned if Dr. Mohmand has been in contact and is aware, here is a link to Mr. NK's 6 month update. Dr. Mohmand has pledged to stand behind his work and do everything possible to ensure that Mr. NK is happy.

 

It is an unfortunate reality in hair transplantation that a small percentage of patients will not have favorable results. While it's never easy when we end up being the patient with the problem, it's important to keep a positive attitude and begin planning how we will move forward from that point. Having a supportive, caring and ethical physician helps that process.

 

Please keep us informed of your progress, future plans and your communications with Dr. Mohmand.

 

All the best.

[Shadow of the EMpire State]

Mr NK,

 

I know it's tough and you're not satisfied with the growth, but I really think you should hold off until the 12 month before declaring the procedure a success or disappointment.

 

Good Lord. I've been a member here for a while, and I've read plenty of your posts. I've yet to read anything critical--not even where, as here, a critical response is the only honest reaction. It makes me question your objectivity.

 

I've been on hair forums for seven years. I've viewed thousands of hair transplants, many in person. And the truth of the matter is that 95 percent of the "great" hair transplants look very good at six months. But beyond that, a hair transplant THIS bad at eight months is almost always a disaster. This idea that there's "hope" for a sudden turnaround after eight months is total, unabashed garbage. I've never seen it happen in seven years. never. Not once. This wait-until-12-months mantra originated as surgeonspeak for "Please go away and don't bother me while you grow to accept your failed procedure."

[aaron1234]

Shadow of the Empire State,

 

My first hair transplant was a bad one and I pretty much knew it at 8 months (actually probably before). My second was great. And just as you said, really looked good at 6 months. So I think there is a lot of validity to your point. I will say that a recent study by a certain HT doctor (sorry, can't remember his name) said that growth of new hairs can occur up to 18 months post-op. So while I am pretty sure that Mr NK's transplant won't meet his goals, he could still achieve more growth at this point. Sadly, it just probably won't be enough growth to make much of a difference to what looks like will be a bad outcome.

[wb280]

Shadow, wow those are very strong words mate. Lighten up! However, i admit i goto acknowledge that u r prob rite. I feel highly pessimistic that NK prob will not suddenly see plenty of hair sprouting out in the next few months...

[Megatron]

This wait-until-12-months mantra originated as surgeonspeak for "Please go away and don't bother me while you grow to accept your failed procedure."

 

holy moly what a statement!

 

can't say I completely disagree with you either though

[TakingThePlunge]

Shadow,

 

Please let's keep things in perspective. I agree that Mr. NK is most likely not going have acceptable results from this procedure and he has been in contact with Dr. Mohmand regarding his options.

 

Regarding your statement about the "12 month mantra" I have to disagree. The results of my first procedure were well publicized here. While my results were arguably not that bad, I was very unhappy with my density at 8 months and I was sure it was all over for me. In truth, my hair continued to improve until at least 14 months. Not enough for me to decide against a second hair transplant but noticeably nonetheless.

 

One of the main reasons to wait is because hairs can continue to darken and thicken during that time and those considering a second procedure would be prudent to wait until that time rather than possibly having viable hairs transected by a subsequent procedure.

 

I don't see Mr. NK's case is any different. He may get some more growth so why not wait until he can be sure that all the hairs he's going to get are grown and mature before embarking on another procedure?

 

All the best,

[Blake Bloxham]

Good Lord. I've been a member here for a while, and I've read plenty of your posts. I've yet to read anything critical--not even where, as here, a critical response is the only honest reaction. It makes me question your objectivity.

 

I've been on hair forums for seven years. I've viewed thousands of hair transplants, many in person. And the truth of the matter is that 95 percent of the "great" hair transplants look very good at six months. But beyond that, a hair transplant THIS bad at eight months is almost always a disaster. This idea that there's "hope" for a sudden turnaround after eight months is total, unabashed garbage. I've never seen it happen in seven years. never. Not once. This wait-until-12-months mantra originated as surgeonspeak for "Please go away and don't bother me while you grow to accept your failed procedure."

 

Hi Shadow,

 

Thank you for your input. I'm sorry to hear that you're questioning the objectivity of my contributions. I like to think of my role on these boards as something along the lines of 'patient advocate,' so I'd really like to know if there is anything else I can do to clear up this confusion. If it's any consolation, I assure you that I can be quite objective with my commentary and I base my previous response on two factors: a. the Dr's track record; granted, 'no doctor bats a thousand,' but Mr NK was operated on by a reviewed, approved, recommended physician, not a questionable clinic, and I know that any unforeseen disappointment will be handled appropriately.

 

b. the number of cases I've seen where a vast, vast improvement occurred between month 8 and 12. I assure you my statement wasn't a 'talking point' or something to occupy Mr NK for the time being. I truly believe that results can drastically change between the 8th and 12th month mark. Now, to be completely objective, I do not think that this is the case for everyone, AND I do believe that Mr NK will require a second procedure to achieve the density he desires. I hope my previous statement didn't instill anything besides the fact that 8th months is pre-mature for a definitive diagnosis.

 

Hopefully this clears up any misconception. Please, let me know if there is anything else I can do to explain myself (or motives) a bit more clearly.

[1966kph]

hello shadow-guys,it is probably true that most ht's reach somewhat mature results by around the 8 months mark but there are numerous cases that mature greatly after that point,however as already stated by several posters to this thread mr nk's looking like a poor end result which happens even to the best ht surgeons,i've already said i hope mr nk is a slow grower but the chances are his situation is'nt going to improve that much but there is hope that it might,how many times have you seen 8 month pic's and 12 month pic's and in most cases there is a vast difference between the two,everyone have a nice day......

[Mr.Nk]

well after reading everyone's comments i have surely decided to wait for 12-14 months .. but as on today its been almost nine months and i just took some pics but there is absolutely no change in the last 20 days !!

 

i remember when i had necrosis doc kept telling me to wait for another 2 weeks everytime i use to visit him ... this went on and on for 4 months until he finally did the small procedure and it was over and healed in 5 days !! so im pretty use to this 'wait and see' thing .. so i guess ill just wait and see for another 3 months ... before i decide to go for another HT ... cuz this looks so horrible in normal day/sun light that i have no other choice ...

 

i really dont wanna have a strip surgery again cuz of the experience and large area which is still numb... i really was thinking if i can get a FUE to do the repair ... cuz somehow that looks somewhat less traumatic !! i wont be able to to go thru the same procedure again .. as flashes of HT journey still haunts me .. !! im not sure if Dr.Mohmand offers a FUE cuz all of his patients undergo the strip method .. and also .. on my consultation day doc's hair consultant who examined me (Shahid) didnt mentioned the option either ...

 

Also wanted to ask what is the policy of different clinics on returning the money if there is a failure ... i havent talked to my doc about this but do clinics offer this ??