Regular Member andyh Posted August 5, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted August 5, 2007 Hi Please could someone tell me who are the best surgeons in the uk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member andyh Posted August 5, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 5, 2007 Hi Please could someone tell me who are the best surgeons in the uk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NW5a Posted August 5, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 5, 2007 Hey, i dont know a good surgeon in uk, but in the netherlands u will find Doctor Heitmann. He was my surgeon and i am really happy. Good luck My Hair Loss Weblog with Dr. Heitmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanthairs Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 andyh it is the farjo clinic in manchester from what everyone says. there ar ea nukber of their patients that post on this forum and Pat Hennessy just visited their clinic and had lowing things to say about them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viccory Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I didn't got to Farjo so can't say too much except results that i saw were not great a few years ago. I haven't been impressed with any from the UK, you do have a stones throw over the North Sea some good docs though, Dr Bisanga especially has been producing good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted August 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 6, 2007 andyh,as i mentioned on your other thread i have been under farjo and i am pleased with my results.i believe them to be the best in the uk as does pat, i think as he is recommending them for the coalition.i strongly urge you to go for a consult, meet him and mick(patient coordinator)check out the premises see some patient photos etc.i am sure you will be impressed as i was, and being based in manchester this has got to be a plus. 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 andyh, The best doctors in the UK by far IMO are: Dr. Bessam Farjo Dr. Nilofer Farjo Currently these doctors are recommended but are up for membership into our coalition. See the details of the membership recommendation here If you do a search using our "find" feature of this forum on the name "Farjo", you will find a lot of recent posts (especially in the photo section) made by Mick McHugh who works for the clinic. IMO, they do quality work. It is best practice, however, to research and consult with at least 3 HT doctors that you are comfortable with. Also...do not let location be the ultimate determining factor in your decision. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyPants Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Originally posted by andyh:Hi Please could someone tell me who are the best surgeons in the uk? What type of Hair Restoration Procedure would you like to have done ? If you want to shy away from strip and any scarring procedures, then find yourself somebody that does FUE or similar. A friend of mine recommended a new clinic, as they have all the latest equipment and know precisely what they're doing. Most clinics will give you a free consultation/assessment(this one will). Get yourself examined and assessed and adviced by at least 3 specialists, and make a more educated choice. Good Luck P.S. the clinic I'm talking about is The Harley Street Hair Clinic (Link removed) P.P.S. Oh, and my personal opinion - handling your sub-1mm graft extracts when the doc is a 60 years old man is not going to be physically easy. Find yourself a young focused, precise person with steady hands and good vision. Improves results a lot :-) Just my ??.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Smartypants, If you want to shy away from strip and any scarring procedures, then find yourself somebody that does FUE or similar. This is a dangerous and misleading statement. Both Strip and FUE will leave scarring behind - just differently. In the best hands, however, scarring can be minimal - both with Strip or FUE/FIT. P.S. Blatant promoting and solicitation of products or clinics is not allowed here. I have removed your link. I did, however, check out your site before I removed the promotion link. The information is limited and I do not see any before/after pictures of any of your patients. For future reference, please read our terms of service. Failure to comply with these rules will result in suspension or termination of posting privileges. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Baboon Posted August 16, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted August 16, 2007 I am sorry to say, but during the more than five years i have been reading these forums, I have yet to see ANY great or even good result from a doctor from UK or even Europe for that matter also. Baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Baboon, Up until recently, I haven't either. You may want to read the highlights from Pat's visitation to some leading hair restoration clinics in Europe. You can view them here. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted August 16, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2007 Guys/gals, Can anyone answer this for me? All I ever hear on the forums is that many of the European doctors are less skilled than those currently performing HT's in North America, but are gradually getting better and better. That being said, why is it that 3 top Coalition docs that I have spoken to all refer to learning their skills from a clinic/clinics in Europe? This has always confused me and I meant to ask Dr. Shapiro about that and forgot to. Anyone?? NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 NN.. I'm afraid I don't have the answer for that one. Did the 3 HT physicians give you names of the European doctors? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted August 16, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2007 Bill, No and I hate making a generalized statement like that without the proof to back it up, but it was Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Martin Tessler and I believe Dr. Hasson that made reference to developing their skills in Europe. So their has to be someone over there who is damn good? NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted August 16, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2007 I think sometimes doctors use "trained" with or worked with this doc or that doc in order to acknowledge association with a particular doctor(s) but that is not necessarily the same as "learned from" I have no doubt that any doctor can learn something new from anyone. A doctor can take something he or she learned or saw applied in a different manner and make it better. I believe this is the case. However, while I believe doctors that learned/applied techniques from Europe here in the States/Canada to the highest level, I do not believe that the same level of skill has been reciprocated by clinics across the pond. We have recently seen some very good work from a few clinics (thanks to Pat) and it is my sincere hope that we can see more work grown out in the coming months that rivals what we see here. Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted August 16, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2007 NN---- edit-- actually it was the Moser Clinic--- and it was around 91. I am not sure of their exact relationship or level of association, etc...but I believe the general idea is that our docs learned some valuable ideas/techniques and have taken them to the highest level. I would have to say that European clinics have struggled to achieve the same level of consistency that elite Canadian/US have. I reiterate however, that Pat has recently visited several clinics and things are looking promising. We are beginning to get some of the transparency we need to effectively judge patient results accordingly. Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyPants Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Originally posted by Bill:Smartypants, If you want to shy away from strip and any scarring procedures, then find yourself somebody that does FUE or similar. This is a dangerous and misleading statement. Thanks for sharing your opinion, moderator :-) I still believe that I'd rather have a thousand small sub-1mm spots spread all over my donor than a "fine" line that pulls my forehead and stretches over time and has to be fixed by FUE one day..(in some cases, at least) Both Strip and FUE will leave scarring behind - just differently. In the best hands, however, scarring can be minimal - both with Strip or FUE/FIT. P.S. Blatant promoting and solicitation of products or clinics is not allowed here. I have removed your link. I'm not promoting, I'm allowing for somebody to get to the bigger numbers of specialists to talk to. Excuse me for appearing otherwise I did, however, check out your site before I removed the promotion link. The information is limited and I do not see any before/after pictures of any of your patients. The site is not up to me to assess, I know they have a phonenumber and an e-mail form on it, which should be enough for my intention to help the original poster in some way. For future reference, please read our terms of service. Will do, thanks, glad you're removing links, but people can still read what I say, will stay away from posting links from now on, thanks. :-) Failure to comply with these rules will result in suspension or termination of posting privileges. Your rules, your decisions. I'll try to comply, thanks :-) Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Smartypants, Thanks for understanding. Your initial statement appeared to state that FUE was a non-scarring technique, which is simply untrue. Stating that you prefer FUE scarring to Strip scarring is absolutely fine! Thanks for clarifying. If you are not promoting their clinic, why is it that you chose their clinic to post? Have you had FUE done with them? If so, I encourage you to share your experience and post pictures on a new thread. If not, what is your affiliation with them? Why do you believe they are an upstanding clinic? You have to understand my skepticism. People come here all the time to promote. If you are here in the best interest of others, you will rarely direct people to one particular clinic unless you have proof to backup that they are indeed as good as you believe them to be. Do you work for this clinic? It's ok if you do...but please state this in your signature as it is forum policy. Thank you, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyPants Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Dear Moderator, It's so nice to actually see a moderator act and react as an adult, thumbs up :-) My own hair is still holding(knock on wood), but I see it's thinning already, and, by the time I'm 35 it may be too obvious (I'm 30 now) Hopefully, by then the field will have advanced even further and a solution will be easy to find, and easy to justify as the right thing to do (a strip is a no-no, for me, and FUE is too early for me, I have been told - the pattern needs to settle down a bit more) I have a friend, as I mentioned in my post, who is the actual Managing Director of this new clinic. He is a FUE patient himself, a long time enthusiast and knows a lot about the topic from a personal point of view, as well as a professional point of view. As far as I know, he had no financial or any other stops while equipping the clinic. the team is small, but devoted, and they're regulated by all the medical regulators in the UK. They are members of some world known Hair Restoration Surgeons Societies, and have a doctor perform the surgery by himself, with a stereo microscope(made in the UK) utilising assistant. They focus on quality, don't even try to claim mega- or giga-sessions and will soon have some great post-op pictures. For now, it's too early after the sessions, and even though the results look great, nobody will publish a pre-op, immediate post-op photos only, without the 3 months after and 6 months after, etc.. Yes the team is not famous, and for legal reasons they can not have any of their previous work published on a website under their name. I'm roughly informed about the topic, but decided to check what people are looking for in the field(I'm a web-developer myself) and what they're finding. Therefore, your site gave me tons of information, but I noticed a person looking for some help in the UK. Given I'm trying to always help people, if it costs me nothing, especially ^^ I posted about the clinic and the small team my friend directs. I believe that a hair-restoration session is an important step for everybody, and that talking to nice people that know about stuff and can explain, demonstrate, teach is the obvious way to go. I'm not sure about the other UK doctors, I'm aware they exist, but have never seen them(heard some were 60 years old !!! therefore my lil comment before) and maybe they're really good.. I like having options in my life.I provided the poster with one he probbaly didn't know of. If he values his free time more than the free advice he can get from them, so be it. If not - hey, I might have just helped him actually find information and possibly someone to actually help him with his problem. Cheers, I still insist I only had good intentions :-) And your site is all about exploring options and opinions, right ? :-) keep it up, and if I break any rules, let me know, again :-) Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 SmartyPants, Here at the Hair Transplant Network, we are always seeking to find the best hair transplant physicians that meet our high level of standards. I have no problem with you or your friend coming here to post real-time before/after pictures of his clinic's work. All I ask is that he follows are forum rules and provides a lot of detail including: 1. Type of hair restoration surgery (Strip, FUE/FIT, Other?) 2. Does his clinic do true follicular unit grafting? If not...what does he do? Mini-grafts? Other? 3. How many grafts (preferably with hair count breakdowns) used in the session 4. Pictures of the donor and recipient area before, immediately post op, and after - preferably with month by month progression pictures 5. What type and size of cutting instrument he uses to make recipient sites 5. If Strip, Are the grafts dissected with a microscope? He must also be prepared to deal with the public scrutiny as many dedicated members are used to seeing top quality work. Those clinics who do quality work should not be afraid to post online since it will to their benefit. Those who refuse typically can't live up to our expectations and don't want to deal with the public opinion. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyPants Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hi :-) Awesome, I will let him know, as I believe the team has nothing to be ashamed of - they use, as far as I remember, 0.8mm punches, do FUE/FIT ONLY, grafts are not dissected, but prepared for the micro-incisions under a stereo microscope, implanting is done with respect to depth, direction, angles, etc.. If he decides so, I'll be more than happy to assist him and the team with serving you guys/ladies some examples of their work. And yes, I am aware you've all seen plenty of photos, cases, etc..and are skeptical at first. But there's no other way of testing if the team can be up to your high expectations, but give you all something solid .. :-) Again, I'd love to help them post some stuff, but it's up to them. Will keep you posted, thanks for your time and patience with me Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Smartypants, You are welcome. If you are affiliated with them in any way - financially or otherwise, please note this in your signature. Also, please send me a private message with the URL of your friend's website again please. You can do this by clicking on my name on the left and choosing "Invite Bill to a private topic". Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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