ARMANI 3117#!I can not undersand the fair in the world.do you undersand?

[Einstein]

chanyouzhe, did you lose hairs recently to make it look thin at the 8th month mark? Or is it thin even at the 8th month mark?

 

How soon can and how late can shockloss take place post-op?

 

Originally posted by chanyouzhe:

i need a example that 8 months have passed the situation is also like me.have you seen it??please give me if you have seen it

Originally posted by thanatopsis_awry:

This is precisely why people took it upon themselves to be a pitbull on Armani for so many years, dealing with the shills and, above all else, the naive moderates that labeled them crazy and untactful. Just imagine the untold number Armani's victims. When people like this pop up it really begins to touch upon just how much of a wrecking ball his clinic is. The damage he has done to people's lives is unquantifiable.

 

C, I would do has RonJ and others have suggested. Depending on what the $ means to you, you could pursue a lawsuit and settlement -- I can imagine how difficult such an endeavor can be for one in your position, and I'm sure Armani knows this, too....only you can evaluate that.

 

Nonetheless, I would strongly encourage you investigate a repair, which can do wonders. Wanthairs, who went to Hasson+Wong, is an example, and there are countless others.

[Bushy]

Originally posted by chanyouzhe:

why i did not see poor result with armani before.what i saw are all good results

 

<span class="ev_code_RED">Right here, friends, is the heart of the problem: Deceptive advertising. Armani's website has, for the longest time, been showing STRIP results to FUE candidates. It's unbelievable that he gets away with it.</span>

[kaounis]

Billorayne. I think you have your answer as tp why Armani isn't recomended on this site! C, I wish you lots of luck...take the advice of others and seek repair and compensation...Armani is only good at making clothes!

 

 

Just a thought from the peanut gallery...

[chanyouzhe]

another month pass again,no change happen

[malborn]

you are little bit unlucky. I am sorry to see your result.

 

have you sent your photos to alvi armani ?

you can want to pay back money.

 

this result could occur. If you could go another doctor.

 

 

 

because of hair, you dont breathe, you don't see,you don't walk.

 

Around the world there are a lot of people who have to suffer everyday.

 

you can walk. you can run. you can see. you can read. you can use your hands

 

hair is not everything.

[TC17]

malborn,

 

Why are you so reluctant to accept that Dr. Armani is not a good physician? Yes, bad results can occur with any physician, but they seem to happen far more often with Armani. It is possible that a result like this can occur with a really good doctor, but it is probable that this will occur with Dr. Armani. That's a very big difference.

[TC17]

And one more thing regarding Armani and ethics. Why the hell would he pack 3,117 grafts into such a small area on a patient that still had that much native hair? Again, either he knows that there is a probability of a bad result ensuing, or he should know. Either way, THIS is an example of his lack of ethics.

[Rachmunas4life]

Malborn,

 

I smell a shill... Or someone that won't listen to people. I might not be a surgeon or expert on transplants, but I do have common sense.

 

 

Chanyouzhe,

 

I'm very sorry to what happened to you. I would pusue sueing and possibly send a Private message to other's on here that had a bad result from him.

 

He is the only surgeon that we see horrible results from that might be unfixable. He is a butcher and I think he is proud of it.

 

He should be locked up in a Dubai jail! He reminds me from the movie "The Dentist," where the dentist who got his kicks out of butchering people.

 

Thank g-d I didn't go to Dr. Armani when I was 23 after he replied I'd be an excellent candidate for 3 times the amount of grafts other surgeons told me I needed. I'm almost 27 now and have not seen a good Armani result still!!!

[malborn]

common sense.

 

I am new for this subject. I am 21 years old. While I was seaching Hair Transplant a month ago. I saw Dr. Armani's HT pictures. These are all wonderful.

 

Due to you. I introduced Dr. Feller , Dr Hasson & Wong ... ect

 

I don't have experience as well as you.

 

I agree this result bad,but Dr. Armani did other results that are wonderful.

 

I will say again. I didn't see any wondeful results that are made by Dr.Feller or other doctors as well as Dr Armani. Dr. Armani is doing thick FUE.

 

other doctors maybe think future of patient. Thus, they are not doing thick hair.

 

Dr. Armani advised 2500-3000 grafts to me for only ZONE 1 and 2. I was going to Dr. Armani before you warn me. I am very confused.

 

Sparky warn me for keeping hair by 25 -26 years old.

 

Now. I will be trying to keep my hair by 25 years old.

 

Sorry for my English. I hope that you can undertstand.

 

 

chanyouzhe,

 

you can want money payback.

 

Dont be sad, everthing is not hair. be happy

[bash77]

Chanyouzhe,

I'm truly saddended to read about your case. Unfortunately, the glitz of Armani's website punishes many. We relate as young men to the guys on his site, and are often desperate for change.

 

His procedures are unclear and its truly unethical (i was quoted between 3,000-3,500 grafts for zone 1) and have just had my 1,300 grafts with Shapiro Medical Group. As bushy has stated, most of the pics are probably strip and not FUE.

 

If you're not on propecia or rogaine, I suggest you start that immediately as this should stabilise your hair loss and offset some of the panic.

 

Moving ahead, suggest you stay on this forum (from my experience, its one of the best in the business) and do plenty of research. Do not rush into anything and know that you are supported by us on this community.

We are with you bro.

 

Bill/All, it's likely that many hair sufferers come through this site before opting for Armani. Could something not be posted clearly on the front page (in clear font) that warns potiential patients of such clinics like this? This is very sad stuff indeed...

[Bill - Seemiller]

Bill/All, it's likely that many hair sufferers come through this site before opting for Armani. Could something not be posted clearly on the front page (in clear font) that warns potiential patients of such clinics like this? This is very sad stuff indeed...

 

Bash,

 

Creating a "black list" of surgeons isn't something we do for a number of reasons, including the legal liability. Thus, we feel it's more appropriate and beneficial to or community to focus our attention on surgeons we've prescreened and believe provide only the best results.

 

However, we do warn hair loss sufferers to diligently research hair transplants and the physicians that perform them prior to undergoing surgery. In fact, in addition to numerous cautions posted by Pat, myself, and other dedicated members of this community on our forum, on the front page of the Hair Transplant Network it reads "Considering a Hair Transplant? Be careful and learn from patients first."

 

Additionally, the title of the page reads "Hair Transplant? Be Careful! Hair transplants can be great, if you find the right hair restoration surgeon."

 

Thankfully, many more clinics are beginning to evolve their techniques and do quality work. However, there will always be those who are more concerned about filling their wallets than providing quality results. Unfortunately, that's true in every profession. That's why research and consumer/patient review is critical.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[Sparky]

If people are able to find thier way to this website, a blacklist on this website would be pointless, just type in the docs name into the "search our forum" option, and you can find out whether they are good or bad.

[hairthere]

Anyone considering a fue megasessions should just consult with dr. feller. he'll explain why it's not such a good idea and hopefully get hapless patients to see the light.

 

regarding this patient seeking legal retribution: it's extremely difficult, costly, and imo, pointless. remember that waiver form you signed before surgery? probably not, or at least you likely didn't read it, but it basically releases the clinic from responsibility of poor growth.

 

best of luck with whatever you decide, and keep your fingers crossed that you're possibly a slow grower...

[bash77]

Thanks for your response Bill.

 

Chanyouzhe, as much as poss try and keep your chin up. Please keep us posted....

[Sparky]

dont understand why you guys are not sueing him

[shanti]

I've always been wary of Armani and thought it was an accident waiting to happen but after taking a break from the boards for a couple of years, I come back to see the damage that's been done.

 

I remember him suggesting (or his guy Shane did) that he could extract something like 10,000 FUE grafts (or maybe it was more) with no visible impact on the donor density. He was challenged but never proved it... did he?. But as you say ArmaniSucks, it looks to me like 6000 in your case was a few too many.

 

So what is the deal here? He appears to be pretty much like a 21st century Bosley.

 

I can understand how the likes of Bosley got away with it as we (the patients) didn't have the internet to share experiences.....but surely the word is out by now about these failed megasessions and yet I see people diving in on other forums for thousands of grafts with him.

 

Am I missing something? Has he had many good results to balance the bad out or are these poor results pretty wide spread?

[hair_care]

I would suggest you consult with a top coalition doc recommended on this forum and try to get some of the work corrected.

[shanti]

It's tricky to see how thin the donor really is from photos but while obviously thin, I'm imagining it probably looks cosmetically fine to a person in the street.

 

But yes, I certainly think you should speak to a specialist doctor. You may be surprised what they could salvage.

 

In the absence of a better solution from a top doc, I'm guessing but maybe you could get 1000-1500 more from the 'front' half of the sides, the 'lower' back of head and 'nape', which ironically may actually balance out overall density with the Armani extraction zones and look better.

 

Your hairline seems reasonably intact as well.

 

Three options as I see it:

 

1) Speak to a top doc as there may be a solution.

 

2) Shave it off. Looks like you have a great shaped head and will wear the look well, plus you don't have a strip scar.

 

(You won't like this next one but I've always kept it as a back up plan for myself incase I can't keep up with my hairloss, so I may as well mention it. If your current situation really bothers you and you don't want to shave then option 3 may work as a last resort..... and many people do this):

 

3) Use your remaining FUE grafts to create a hairline and then wear a hair piece behind. Not an ideal solution sure, but as a last resort one that could be manageable. The piece fills your crown and mid section with hair without the worry of a detectable mesh hairline because your FUE grafts hide its' edge. Easier to maintain and appears natural as the main 'giveaway', (being the hairline), is real hair.

 

My favourite however is shaving it off. It looks like it would really suit you. Would you be comfortable with that?

 

All the best and hope it works out for both you and Chanyouzhe.

 

Shanti

[Sparky]

how do you know he actually did 6000 grafts?

[hairlust]

give it a few more months. if it s still bad,you need to take action against armani. it is indeed perplexing to have less hair than what you started out with. GET YOUR MONEY BACK!!!!

[chanyouzhe]

until now,i most want to know is why this bad situation happened,because the blood scar or other?Armani himself did not explain to me now any until now,does he know the reason of it?it is terrible.

[Armani_Patient]

You guys see how my alias was forcefully changed from armanisucks to armani patient. I think I will get Armani people calling me very soon and to tell to stop posting in the forums.

[hairthere]

who forced you to change your alias?

[Sparky]

but Armani does suck

[M&M]

Armani_Patient (formerly known as Armanisucks),

 

I definitely feel for you as the web of lies that Armani spins is quite deep, as is his web of lawyers, so perhaps there was some pressure applied to this forum as part of their 'settlement' to remove any outright 'attacks'. This is just a guess, but either way, your name is irrelevant, since the results speak for themselves.

 

Here is another example of poor work done by Armani: http://www.hairsite.com/hair-l...er-descasc-DESC.html

 

This is after 8-months:

 

 

The lies start with saying that only Armani can plant grafts so densely, close off the temples and have such great design. Not true - most other doctors realize that this is poor use of a finite resource - your donor hair and *choose* not to do it.

 

If one is to question why 4,000 grafts for a hairline when all other doctors typically recommend 50-60% of that, he will then say that the average patient has 10,000 - 15,000 donor grafts available. Again - simply not true. We've asked Pats205 and Shane (workers for Armani) on numerous occasions to provide evidence of cases this size, but not a single one ever materialized. Under the ideal circumstances, a true rare patient may get close to 10,000, but most will likely top out at 6,000 - 8,000, which is still a lot. But, if you thought you only had 6,000 grafts to work with, would you ever agree to 4,000 for your hairline? Of course not, that would be irresponsible.

 

So now you're hooked: you're shown photos of old strip procedures, which typically did turn out very well, but utilized a *lot* of grafts. But still, the results were solid. But he only does FUE now, using a motorized tool, planting thousands a day, with a questionable survival / transection rates as shown by more recent results.

 

Then there is the question of the pressure tactics, agreements that are signed, etc.

 

I think we should save your photos, this other patient's photos and anyone else's who is not pleased with Armani to help easily direct new patients looking for why we are not 'in favour' of Armani.

 

"Armani_Patient", I do wish you luck and I definitely think you should consult with some of the top doctors. I know H&W was mentioned (great choice), but you should also consult with SMG - Shapiro Medical Group. They offer both strip and FUE and can therefore custom-tailer a plan that best suits your needs, if you decide to proceed. I think you make a 'road-trip' (or plane trip) of consultations with top doctors to really know what your options are so you can make a wise, well-informed decision.

 

Good luck!

 

M&M