Bill - Seemiller Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 John, Joe makes a valid point. I don't see how you think Joe is attacking anyone. He is just sharing his opinion just as Gorpy is just sharing his. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and encouraged to share it, of course, this includes you. I do hope that you will logically debate with Joe and provide your logical reasoning of why you disagree. The disagreements and debates on this forum make for an excellent atmosphere for education. But accusatory remarks from anyone only hinders the purpose of this community. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member calvinmd Posted June 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 27, 2007 After reading this whole thread, I went and looked at my hairline in the mirror. (Dark hair on light skin.) I originally though it looked natural but the longer I look at it the weirder it starts to look. Kinda pluggy, irregular, too "soft" in the transition, etc. I'm disappointed with it now. . . . but I haven't had any HTs. This is my natural hairline I'm talking about. ------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted June 27, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 27, 2007 that's pretty funny. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 . . . but I haven't had any HTs. This is my natural hairline I'm talking about. ROTFLMAO!! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Aquarius Posted June 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 27, 2007 Good one cal A hair on the head is worth two on the brush. I don't work for commision.. I bust e'm for free. Thank me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 but I haven't had any HTs. This is my natural hairline I'm talking about. Well that puts things into perspective! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted June 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 27, 2007 That was funny, for sure. The difference though is that no surgery can replicate a hairline 100% as nature can so of course it's going to not be so much of an issue. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted June 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 27, 2007 This is probably a good way to end this thread. It will hopefully keep us all as friends. NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 No reason why not remain friends... I'd still like to get together with all of you and buy all of you a round of...well, whatever you like! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Speaking of Rounds: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TheHairLossCure Posted June 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 Chimin' in a bit late here...oh well Nervous Nelly, "Rogue hairs" - love that phrase. All, This is a great discussion. To me, a soft hairline is one with an irregular pattern of single-hair grafts on the leading edge, with increasing density (in terms of hairs/graft and grafts/cm2) moving into the frontal third. At this point, I think it goes without saying that single hair grouping are necessary for creating a natural hairline. But what about patients with very coarse hair? Can a SINGLE hair unit look pluggy on a patient with coarse hair? A single hair is in no way a "plug," but in patients with coarse hair we do run the risk of a "surgical" looking hairline. The hairs can be too wiry for the front row and the exit points can stand out. What to do? The lovely feathered patterns and designs that are so natural looking for most patients can be difficult to pull off for those with coarse donor hair. There are many ways to approach this issue, each with its benefits and drawbacks: 1. Graft Selection Grafts need to be carefully examined and identified prior to placement. What may look like a single may actually be a double with a hair in the resting phase. We should assume the elite hair restoration clinics will use high magnification to identity and/or manufacture singles for the front row. Magnification also helps in sorting the singles best suited for the leading edge. Keen knowledge of the donor zone is necessary to locate the finest hairs for the front. It should be noted, however, that hairs cycle and appear differently at different times. This may present a challenge. 2. FUE The extraction of nape hairs (or other hairs that tend to be softer than the clusters found in the traditional strip harvest zone) is a valid solution to the coarse hair dilemma. But we have all seen people with hair loss in the nape area or recessions in the posterior hairline. Therefore, these hairs should be considered transient for some. The patients at greatest risk for loosing nape hairs are those with the potential for extensive hair loss. In other words, the patients at greatest risk tend not to be the best candidates for HT in the first place. 3. Dense Packing Placing grafts closer together on patients with very course hair is another possibility. Indeed, the coarse hairs that may have stood out with low density can be blended away in a lush carpet of tightly packed singles. The hairline should be undulating but dense enough so as not to draw the eye to any one hair. This is not exactly the transitional zone seen in nature but, in the absence of the perfect donor source, we can rely on the art of illusion. 4. Injuring grafts Single hair grafts can be selectively injured to create a softer look up front. Since the object of hair restoration is to create the appearance of more hair with finite donor source, this approach should be utilized sparingly. Notice: I am an employee of Dr. Paul Rose who is recommended on this community. I am not a doctor. My opinions are not necessarily those of Dr. Rose. My advice is not medical advice. Dr. Rose is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted June 28, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 Bill, that's classic! I definitely have the best looking legs. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted June 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 It's not a very accurate image. My shorts look too tight and I don't hit guys with glasses. Also, my stance is all wrong. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted June 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 Gorpy vs Joe Pre-fight rules: 1) No hitting above the hairlines. 2) No cheap shots near the donor areas. 3) Keep all hair care products in respective corners. 4) No hair gel in the eyes. 5) Fists and follicles will be flying so the Winner is declared by sending the Loser to the nearest mirror for restyling. Nice job Bill! NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted June 28, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yeah, and no poking me in the eye with that pointy hair in front. Gel that up a bit and it could be a lethal weapon. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted June 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 I thought you'd appreciate the umbrella. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 ROTFL Nobuzz.... Glad you all liked it! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted June 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 Sweet job Bill, but what about the hotties carrying the signs for each round?? Also the managers Don King and Donald Trump? NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted June 28, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yeah, could you fit some of the hot H&W techs in there somewhere ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rhodeman Posted June 29, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2007 Bill, That's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member pushing 40 Posted June 29, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2007 the hell with that.....I seem to remember a certain unofficial graft calculator's wife being tremendously endowed with a certain "presence" that would directly fulfill said needed "round card carrying ring girl presence". Was that cryptic enough? I don't need Gorp flyin' out here to smack me in the melon you know; gotta be cryptic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted June 29, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2007 There goes Pushing talking in code again. Dang, I wish I could figure out what he was saying. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted June 29, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2007 Pushing, I think I may have decoded your post and I was thinking what you stated but didn't want to go there. NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted June 30, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted June 30, 2007 I know what 40 said!!!! LMAO!!!!!!! Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Yeah, could you fit some of the hot H&W techs in there somewhere Good point...but I don't have pictures of none of them. Maybe next time I'll request a picture of me with the whole group of them. We'll squeeze Joe in there somewhere too the hell with that.....I seem to remember a certain unofficial graft calculator's wife being tremendously endowed with a certain "presence" that would directly fulfill said needed "round card carrying ring girl presence". Was that cryptic enough? I don't need Gorp flyin' out here to smack me in the melon you know; gotta be cryptic. LOL...I remember that thread! LOL Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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