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  1. Hi, I finally decided to bite the bullet and went with Dr Demirsoy on 20th December 2017. Although I was very nervous at first, Muzaffer who is the translator and organiser is a very calming character and kept me informed at all times so felt very comfortable and well looked after. The experience of it all I can't really fault at all so I wont bore people with the details as i'm sure you've heard it all before. Everything went very smoothly and only painful part i found was the injections in the donor area but this is only a very short part of the entire procedure so no real issue.
  2. Hello fellow MPB sufferers, my long-awaited procedure is scheduled in exactly one week from now. I've been going back and forth between joyful extasy and the fear of taking the plunge, but now is the time! I'm 30, my hairloss hasn't evolved much since I've been on the meds(fin and minox), and it"s been 6 years on fin and 8 years on minox. Here are a few pictures so you can get an idea of my current situation: Ignore the hairline and corner drawings I was just messing around, even if I do want the corners to be softened above the temple points, because straight, wide and high hairlines don't appeal to me at all: The heart of the problem: the devastated forelock: wet hair: And how I like to wear my hair, with a lot of dermmatch and a combover: I want to get a dense hairline, and focus on the front. I have high expectations. I have seen some awesome stuff from Dr Demirsoy and I want to become one of his best results. I'll never give up the meds and my hair is naturally quite thick. The crown has thinned a bit but it's still fine and won't prevent me from sporting a natural-looking nice hairline. I want as many grafts as possible. Wish me luck brahs!! I'll keep you posted with every single step I'll take towards my desired destination:
  3. Hello All, Both of these surgeons appear to be good choices but I was hoping to get the communities opinion. Which doctor is best in your opinion? Any input would be great in helping me choose. Thanks.
  4. As I promised, a review about procedure of Dr. Erkan Demirsoy and his great team in Istanbul, Turkey. I'll get to the point right away. 30 years old male, I am having seborrheic dermatitis for at least 7 years now from a lot of stress. Since then, my hair started to shed and probably with combination of genetic hair loss from my mother side grandfather who was completely bald. In last two years it started to shed faster in front and a bit of top - first third of the scalp. Remaining part of scalp is, interesting, same for several years which is good. I always had temple (sides) and never had a straight hairline. My goal was or is to revive this third of the scalp as is was several years ago - not to be like when I was 14 'cause that's chasing ghosts and is totally unrealistic from my point of view. Everything was arranged over Clemens Weber, Dr. Erkan's man for foreign citizens. I 'tortured' Clemens with many emails and after all I calculated that we changed over 25 emails We made a date for procedure, I have sent him 500EUR deposit which is clinic policy for securing themselves if someone suddenly does not show off. I arrived to Istanbul one day earlier. Clemens arranged drier from airport Ataturk which is on European side to hotel on the Asian side of Istanbul. Next day Dr. assistant came to pick me up at 15:15h, extremely nice man, well spoken English, behavior natural and soft personality, explaining me a lot while driving to the clinic. I immediately saw that this is all well organized without doubt of 'massive cattle production on a track' which results in poor result and communication. Clinic is settled in a luxury building where everything is at it's place - from material finish of underground parking to the aesthetics of the garden. As soon as from entering the door of the clinic, you can't enter more than 6 feet (1.8m) and everybody has to put protective wear for shoes to minimize the contamination of the space. That bought me immediately. Finally I saw in vivo that someone thinks about that and not just 'money money money'. Two doctors girl assistants were welcoming me, offering something to drink while waiting in a big 'receive' room. They gave me few papers to read carefully and sign, in short, that there is always possibility of risk for new hair not to grow in wanted amount, risking of small scars and other small aesthetic complications that can be caused as a result afterwards. (That is normal to be given by every clinic since I have signed once when doing a nose-job even that I take risk of possible death because of total anesthetics.) When signed, I got received at the doctors office. Dr. was very welcoming and smiley without fake smile but also serious when explaining things about procedure. His assistant was continuously with me translating everything. I think that everybody expected same stories how a patient wants a thick, well natural density over half-empty scalp filled more with thinned hair... so he was a bit reserved at start waiting for my wishes. My wishes were simple - don't need mega blasting density with straight hairline but density as I have now in back portion of the scalp since my hair is wavy and even 30-40% of my donor density would be more than enough. Simply explained - I just wanted a small refill first third of the scalp, restore my previous hairline and refill a bit central portion of the scalp a.k.a. top to secure of ongoing losing hair for a little while and no Hollywood style since that would be totally unnatural change for me. Two of them immediately stopped talking for a few seconds, smiled and said 'hmmm, usually people want opposite'. Yes, but I want to save the grafts for the future hair loss since it's not going to be any thicker. And risk of my sebborheic condition is also included a lot so it would be wise to put grafts in totally bald areas because who knows how will they receipt after and in what density. Let's call this a experiment with a big possibility to achieve at least 70% of satisfaction. Doctor said my wishes were very much realistic and it's good for me to accept that. Then he started to draw frontal hairline with my suggestions to follow my current few hairs that remained and not to go out more than 0.5 - 1cm out of that area. He said that my temples will we revealed and yes, I wanted them, they suit me and my personality for many years now My hairline is a bit more edgy than average and always had a sharp end on my forehead even younger. Never had a nice slight curved hairline. We managed to get the linings of working zone, went to procedure room, shaved and prepared me. We agreed to 3000 grafts. Around 19:45h first shots of anesthesia came to donor zone. I read many times that people were in pain because of that. To be honest, this was the best part. This was not pain but just a not ordinary feeling. After 15 minutes, doctor came, started extracting grafts. One thing I didn't know was that grafts are not extracting immediately after cutting but waiting to finish a good portion, then his to girl technicians came and started to extract grafts. First was done one side of donor area and then other. I noticed that doctor was doing aprox. 4-6 punches with a motor (0.8mm) and stop, than again punches, which is good - immediate planning and working. My problem was that I have very soft skin and he had to tighten my skin while working to extract grafts properly. People with harder skin will do better. Sound of motor extractor is bit strange since you hear it how it's chewing your skin Again, not everyday feeling but no fear, that's what it must be done. Some anesthetic had to be inserted again since it's amazing that just one millimeter of skin is insensitive and just a millimeter beside is sensitive. I noticed how anesthetics affects me - I started to tremble and shiver fee seconds after I got shots. At first, I thought "damn, I am not scared, whats wrong with me?" and they told me that shots contain a small dosage of adrenaline so I got euphoric a bit not scared After extracting girl technicians started with separating grafts. I got a small notice that hair in my donor area are OK but some are containing grafts where one hair is OK and second is affected with thinning. That was not a good news but also it was since I now know that and will keep to prevent and slow further thinning with supplements. Pause for dinner - they asked me what should they order for me, said something traditional and guy with food came very fast. Food was amazing! After dinner, doctor started to make small holes for future grafts while technicians were still playing with grafts. I saw that he was very careful with choosing the right angle of the hole so the new hair will grow with natural look. Many surgeons at this point are making big mistakes but not Dr. Demirsoy. He does that very carefully with a zig-zag pattern and not straight one which is VERY important to get good look of random placed hair and not robotic look. Dr. Demirsoy thinks about it all! He is not just an average good doctor who does his job by standard everyday pattern, he does it with passion where every move is calculated. After incisions the graft implanting started - new girl technician came and were two of them from each side of the head. It started exactly at midnight and lasted three long hours. While inserting grafts, we all had a good time with small conversations about many topics and all was sincere and honest without standard killing time questions. So everything was done in about 03:15h and one thing I noticed is that everybody were more awake in this late hours than at the beginning . Dr. Erkan Demirsoy immediately photographed me and burned photos to a CD, he insisted to burn them right away even if I didn't need them that day. He once again proved himself to be more than a professional because he likes job done right away, nothing should wait for tomorrow! He said he could do another session like this, he was not tired at all His good assistant drove me back to hotel where I 'spent a night on needles' afraid not to touch it, sleep accidentally on recipient area and destroy transplanted grafts. My forehead got swollen from anestetics so I looked like an alien That is normal and it has to be compromised. That day I didn't geot out from the hotel, just chilling, watching episodes over laptop and resting. Next day his assistant once again come to pick me up for first washing of scalp and explaining me aftercare procedure with special shampoos, cremes, lotions and supplements. They asked me if I have bring a cap with me and I told them that I didn't since I understood that I cannot wear hat because implanted grafts can be easily get out if stuck to a hat when taking it off. His assistant immediately went out and brought me a Kappa baseball cap and a Nike tennis band. I asked him how much do I owe him and he said it was on doctors! I just couldn't take that offer, that was too much for my lack of attention for not bringing a cap (even If I could have bought one on Turkish market for cheap money...). They insisted and said not to worry. I was amazed... and a bit shamed since I didn't deserve that kind of attention. They gave me cremes, lotions, medicaments, anti-histamine pills and shampoo all for free which is a practice in most clinics but not all! Many of them charge even that! When I was paying to doctor, he said that we agreed to 3000 grafts (EUR) and he has done 3138 grafts so these extra grafts were not charged and he also said I have a discount of 100EUR because of our common interest in photography. WOW, that was enough!! I was stunned! I am aware I will need one or even more procedure in next 10-15 years, who knows, it all depends of genetics. It's a shame since I am not even a smoker, nor drinker, I am a more than a recreational sportsman, don't eat meet for 5 years (yeah, it's not B12 deficiency, I started losing hair way before started not eating meat) and then, seeing many people who don't care about themselves they have thick hair - I ask myself, is this fair? I flew away from Istanbul with amazing experience. Nobody will bother you bcause of cap, I saw few guys like me, customs are used to this, just asking to lift the cap a bit to see and it's all good. First, It's a huuuge city, no city in Europe is big as that. If Paris is big, this one is like 3 Paris or more, 16 million people. People are more than polite, everything is in order, clean streets, neat architecture, clean air, beautiful sea no aggressive individuals like in many European or world cities, no ghettos. Of course keep your things beside you and you'll have positive experience! My total expenses: Airplane ticket - 185EUR Turkish airlines Deposit 500EUR + 40 taxes over Western Union = 540EUR Hotel 3 nights, 4 days - breakfast and WiFi (6Mbs) - 105EUR Driving taxes - 140EUR Some additional expenses during 4 days and food around 50EUR HT procedure of 3138 grafts with discount - 2900EU (-500EUR deposit). Total 3420EUR aprox. PHOTOS: Just before procedure Just after procedure Day after procedure - I like the randomness of taken grafts! Head was swollen.
  5. Hi everyone, Long time lurker here and i would like to share my recent experience with you. I'll start with a bit of background, I was about 18/19 when I had that horrible feeling which I guess you all know so well, the dreaded thought of losing my hair. After a relationship break up I decided to do something about it so at 24yo I had my first HT. This is 12 years ago now, I am the big 40 in a few days so let me just enjoy the next few days by saying I am a 39 yo guy... Anyway, I was so naive back then, very badly advised and chose the wrong clinic, but to be honest even 12 years ago the quality of hair restoration techniques and surgeons isn't what it is today. The procedure was just a few hundred grafts to plump up the hairline. It looked ok at the time, mingled in with my native hair but I had bad sides to Fin and had to come off after a few months so I very quickly realized i would be going back for more work. My 2nd HT was 2 years later to fill in a strip of hairloss in behind my 1st 1/3 of scalp, a little natural tuft remained front centre and it was becoming isolated. Again not prepared to go on Fin and was becoming very down in myself knowing id be chasing this round my head. I've worn caps and hats whenever I can for the the last 8 or 9 years now. Needless to say these procedures were FUT and I was left which the horrible scars which comes with it, it was the scars just as much as the dodgy looking hair on top I was more conscious of, I well and truly have my FUT club membership card to show off lol ! It was probably 2 or 3 years ago I stumbled onto this wonderful community and was quickly gathering information on finding a solution, reading just about every thread by every patient on every clinic. I looked at several clinics In India, Belgium, Turkey, Spain and many more. But after careful consideration I decided to go with Dr. Erkan Demirsoy at Armamed Clinic in Istanbul. Yes finance is a factor, but so were results I could have gone cheaper than him if it was about finance but i really liked what I saw from him and the fact he only sees one patient a day and is very hands on was also a big factor. I booked through Health Travels Dr. D's representative Mr Clemens Weber and after I sent my pics off, I was contacted by Clemens who had talked to the doc, he said he could extract about 3000-3500 from my donor. As you can see from the thread heading I had 2910 grafts in the end I cant say I'm disappointed because I was being a little greedy anyway as I know people say around 2500 is about the max you should do in 1 FUE session but its along way to go and I do need as many as I can get lol. Dr D said that this was because my donor isnt as strong as my photos suggested so we would only go as far as 3000 which I thought was highly ethical as he could have took 3500 and just took more money but he decided this would best so I totally agreed. On that note I would like to say that my expectations are totally realistic and I realize I will never have a full head of hair, I do remember joking to the doctor and Muzzafer( who is the Doctors right hand man he takes care of everything and is an absolute top bloke) that I dont plan on joining any rock bands and I just wanted to tie together what I have left on top and maybe a sprinkle towards the back with a second pass planned for next year this would be plenty for now. Also I explained id rather have a lighter sprinkle over a bigger area as I didnt want a hardline hair then scalp going on just a nice 'feathered in' look so the further he goes back toward the crown to space the grafts out a little and he agreed this will give a better look in once grown in and before the next pass. So after a long day, I think it went on for about 2 hrs longer about 9 hrs in all as the doc said I had thick skin on my scalp and the grafts were popping out slightly when planting next to them. The two nurses were also amazing their tireless and tedious work didnt go unnoticed they were always asking if I was ok and if i needed some more anesthesia. Dr. D does all the extractions and makes the recipient sites the nurses just plant the grafts. Muzzafer then took me back to my hotel where I didnt get much sleep but I rested well and felt no pain whatsoever. I returned the next day for hairwash all after care products and instructions painkillers anti-inflamatory pills etc..Muzzafer took some pics and burned them to cd for me too. Luckily enough for me this is when I met Clemens Weber who had booked all the hotels transfers for me we had previously exchanged close to 50 emails so I was really glad to thank him in person, after the hairwash we had lunch and chatted for a while about the HT industry for quite some time, it was good to talk to him a very knowledgeable man, although he didnt let me pay for lunch which I tried, insisted infact, but Clemens would have none of it, I thanked him very much, he's a real gent. We stayed in touch over the next few days checking in on me. I was in Istanbul for 10 days in all so had a week to recover before I traveled back to the UK. I could go on filling in details but I feel like I'm waffling now over stories you've heard a million times before lol ! but If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and i will do my best to answer them about my experience. All in all, a truely seamless operation, from start to finish from my very 1st email months ago, to Clemens texting me this morning to make sure I'd arrived home ok !! I cant thank Clemens Weber, Muzzafer, Dr Demirsoy and his two nurses enough they were all superb Ive attached my pre op pics which were originally sent to the doctor and some from immediately post op. I've taken quite a few and am 10 days post op today so I will keep you updated.... Many Thanks for your time...
  6. Very pleased so far. It's only just started becoming noticeable. What will month 8 be like if it's like this now!
  7. Hello forum, Can you please advise. I've consulted several HT physicians online and they all seem to say I need between 3000-3500 FUE grafts. I think I have a good donor area, the hair is very dense and thick in the donor area. The cost is approximately the same for both the doctors. Dr. Demirsoy charges 1 euro per graft, Dr.Bhatti 1.25 USD per graft. The situation however is that: I am visiting Turkey in March and I'm staying in Istanbul for 4 days, so it is very convenient for me to get a HT in Istanbul. Istanbul is close to where I live in Europe, only 1.5 hrs. For Dr.Bhatti, I will have to change several flights and the flight travel times including layover are 21 hrs while going and 38 hrs while returning. + 1 week of travel & stay Can you please advice which doctor I should choose. My rationale is that both Dr.Bhatti & Dr.Demirsoy have been conducting transplants for quite some time now and they both are involved in the HT. Dr.Bhatti has several cases posted and I have read very good reviews, but is it worth going through all this travel and trouble or when I can get it done in Turkey. Please advice
  8. Looking forward to forum members help. Considering a FUE transplant. I was told I need about 3500 grafts. I have researched this forum and a few others. My first choice is Dr Koray Erdogan. But communication seems to a huge issue with his clinic. It takes ages to get an email reply. If you call, the person who answers does not understand English. So this can become a post-op nightmare! I love his results and he uses manual punch! But a bit out of my budget and communicating remains a huge issue for me. So I shortlisted Dr Erkan Demirsoy (Turkey) & Dr Tejinder Bhatti (India), both offers similar rates, and are within my budget. I know neither of them are recommended by this forum. That doesn't mean they produce bad results, right? So between Dr Erkan Demirsoy and Dr Tejinder Bhatti who would you pick? and why? Thanks.
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