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I would like to share my recent HT experience at Asmed as this forum played a deciding factor in helping me discover and choose Dr Erdogan, so believe it’s fair to try and give something back based on my own experiences. I’m 31 from the UK and have thought about getting a HT for around 6 years. My hairline started receding from my early 20’s and from around 28/29 I noticed my hair on top was very much starting to thin so knew the time to do something about it was approaching faster then I had anticipated. I actually had 3 consultations in the UK over the space of a couple of years in my late 20’s but when I turned 31 and realised my hair on top was deteriorating quiet rapidly, I realised it was time to do something about it and also be open to having surgery abroad. I contacted a few clinics in Turkey, Cyprus and Belgium and all gave me a very similar graft number quotation. I decided to go with Dr Erdogan at Asmed and though he was one of my most expensive options I just felt I had the best chance of achieving the best results at his clinic. So I booked up and arrived in Turkey the 27th of Feb, the day before my consultation. From the moment I arrived at Istanbul airport and was picked up by my driver the whole experience has been amazing and actually exceeded my expectations. I opted to stay at the clinic itself and it’s very modern, clean and you can tell no expense has been spared as it’s a fabulous building. I had my consultation with Dr Erdogan on the 28th of Feb and on closer inspection my hair needed a lot more work from what he had seen in the 12 photos I had sent. My original estimate of between 2,500-3,000 grafts (which all clinics quoted) turned into 4,000. To be fair once my hair was analysed I had a feeling my hair loss may appear worse then the actual 12 photos of it dry and wet. The Doctor drew a hairline for 4,000 grafts but actually said he would like to use 5,000 grafts to bring my hairline even lower and to add some side temples too. With both lines drawn on my head there was no comparison so I made a phone call back home and luckily arranged to have more money transferred as the cash I brought didn’t cover 5,000 grafts. It also meant having my original procedure start on Friday the 1st of March but I would need a second day on the Monday 4th to finish the procedure. They let met stay at the clinic for the extra days needed for free and my co-ordinator re-arranged my flight back home for me too. I have just arrived back from Turkey and I couldn’t be happier with how everything has worked out. Everyone who works at the clinic are amazing, caring and genuinely do care for your needs. The staff are so friendly and have made my experience much more enjoyable then what I thought it might be. I’m actually going to really miss all the staff, as I say they have all been incredible to me and my personal co-ordinator has been amazing and caring too. She is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met and always kept me updated and answered all questions I had even before I arrived in Turkey. I honestly don’t think I could have picked a better clinic to carry out my procedure and literally couldn’t pick a single fault in the 6 nights I ended up staying at Asmed. I will add some stats on my hair once I arrive home but my thickness is 55 microns and been taking Finasteride 1mg 5 weeks before procedure. Thanks for reading and I would be happy to answer any questions or give advice about choosing Asmed, but so far I’m so happy I decided to go with Asmed. The first 2 photos are straight after my first day of the procedure.
This forum has been very helpful, here is my review so that it may help/guide others. Background I am in my mid thirties based in North America with hair loss starting since I was 25, but it really accelerated in the past 6 months. I also suffer from seborrheic dermatitis which I have had trouble controlling with shampoos. As I lost hair, the dermatitis has become more apparent and that is what got me looking into hair transplant more seriously. I had never really thought about it much before that. My family has a Norwood 6 history and that is where I was heading. So, it was crucial I found someone that would both address the current hair loss and have a plan for future hair loss. Therefore, I needed to understand my donor capacity, total recipient area and a realistic understanding of what to expect from a hair transplant present and future if I choose. I started researching limiting myself to North America as I wanted to be close for post-care treatment. And due to price, not fully understanding fue and not having to shave my head, I limited myself to FUT only at the start. After further research, I realized how advanced FUE has become and I refocused my attention to only looking at FUE. It was a big bonus not to have a scar and have the option to wear my hair short in the future. Due to the price of FUE in North America, I started to consider Europe and Turkey as well. I quickly realized how advanced Turkey was in FUE. I got a total of 18 consultations/proposals, around the world, 3 of which were directly in person with the Doctor. All the responses suggested 3000-4000 grafts with pricing ranging from 2,000$-18,000$ and one was even 30,000$. My issue with every one of these proposals is when I asked about donor capacity, required grafts/cm2 for good coverage, manual vs motorized extraction, max number of grafts per session and many more, I got many conflicting non-scientific answers. It started to feel like an art and not a science which doesn’t sit well with me. I resorted to my own research on a lot of it and got some of the answers but not all. I will not get into any of that here. Then I found Dr. Erdogan. I had read about him on the forums but did not like that he was a technician clinic. But after I researched him, his method and his work, I was impressed. I watched his presentation on coverage value as a function of density, caliber and number of hairs per graft. I was sold. Finally someone with a scientific approach and a coverage value based on research and evidence. I watched all Dr Erdogan’s videos, devoured his website and before/after results on Baldtruthtalk, Hairrestorationnetwork and other forums. My decision was made before the online consultation. I filled the consultation form, received an answer back fairly quickly within a week saying that they recommend 5000 grafts. I was expecting that as I realized from the forums that they are of the mentality if you are above 3000 and you have both donor capacity and current/future hair loss area. And I agree. The maximum you can do per session is typically 2500 grafts. So for two days in a row, it would be 5000 grafts. I booked for December. I asked questions periodically from then on and received answers in a timely fashion. My main concern with the 5000 grafts was to make sure I had enough donor capacity to allow some for future in case. They assured me that an assessment of donor capacity will be done at the in-person consultation with Dr Erdogan and the number of grafts could potentially be reduced accordingly. They recommended I start on finasteride, and I started taking it in September. The Arrival My patient coordinator was Artun York and he was great answering questions and making suggestions for things to do during my stay. I arrived on a Sunday and Artun coordinated with me through WhatsApp for the driver to meet me at the airport and take me to the hotel. Smooth. The in-person Consultation The in-person consultation was on Monday and I was asked to be ready in the hotel lobby at 1230 where a driver met me and took me to the clinic lobby. Artun met me there and went over some paperwork procedures, what to expect etc. And of course, I drained him with my questions, but he was very patient and very helpful. If you get Artun as your coordinator, you are in good hands. Then we went to a room where I was asked to take my shirt off so they can take an ECG and bloodwork. Then before pictures. Then some paperwork. It took a while to meet Dr. Erdogan and they should probably time patients visit to wait less at the clinic. Nonetheless, it was a very nicely designed clinic with two girls playing violin and piano in the lobby with a snack/juice bar. Everyone was very friendly and welcoming. I can see that being draining on a consistent basis for the employees, so I commend them on such a hospitable consistent attitude. When I met Dr. Erdogan, he was very humble and professional. He was happy with the progress using finasteride. After some small talk, he measured my hair caliber (55 microns), my hair density (between 70-80 grafts/cm2) and estimated the average number of hairs per graft (1.95). Based on that, he came up with a donor capacity of 8500 grafts, which was great. He also explained that I will get more density up front where I lost more hair and then it will reduce as he moves back. The max density he would go based on experience is 52 grafts/cm2, which would give a coverage value in my case above the 5.4 threshold. Just to side track for a minute, I had an in-person consultation with one of the most reputable hair transplant surgeons in North America and he measure my hair caliber at 40 microns. He did not measure any densities or anything else and then determined I had a donor capacity of 5000 grafts. When I asked him how he came up with that number he looked at my donor area and said, “I can tell by look at it.” That was insulting to me. When I mentioned this to Dr. Erdogan, he told me that he measured the caliber in numerous locations, so he was certain. Dr Erdogan then began to draw the hair line. When I looked in the mirror, I noticed it was aggressive and slightly pointy at the front. He asked me what I thought, I said he was the expert and I liked his work so I didn’t change anything. I asked everyone in the room and they liked it as well. Then we went to the finance office where I paid the remaining amount owed. We then went to get my head shaved. That was cool- never done it before. Then I went back to the photo room where Dr. Erdogan met me again and checked the hairline and adjusted it slightly based on my shaved head. He was always very friendly. Then I went to the K bot that scanned my head to take more data. I met Dr. Umat too (the anesthesiologist) throughout this process who was a cool guy with an interesting sense of humor and very sharp as well. The seborrheic dermatitis at the time was mostly under control but there were still some red spots that they put some cream on to take care of. Have dinner at Develi, they have a shuttle to and from the hotel. Or Beluga if you like fish. Both great restaurants and decently priced. Don’t worry about the lines drawn on your head, people are used to that in Turkey, or at least I assumed they were. Who cares, you don’t know anyone anyways. Surgery Day I had breakfast at 630am, then the driver picked me up to go for surgery at 710am. Took the required antibiotic pill which we were to take fore 3 mornings in a row. First, we went to the barber room where my nurse shaved my head again to make sure its all the same required level. Then I headed to the surgery room and met all the nurses. The surgery chair is very comfortable. The first part is the anesthesiology where they poke needles into the donor area to number it. It stings and they do this numerous time to numb the one side of the donor area for day 1 surgery. Day 2 surgery they numb the other side. They measure your heart rate throughout the procedure and blood pressure at the beginning. An IV is put into your hand for the incision phase/ Then they gave me a chin rest as extractions are done in the sitting position. It was not very comfortable for me but manageable. They have a screen in front of you showing live the number of grafts, number of hairs per graft, speed etc. Loved it, it was like watching an NBA game where it was singles vs doubles vs triples and of course I was routing for the triples. Keep in mind they need a fair number of singles on the first day to cover the front hair line and on the second day you will see a slightly higher hairs/graft. I also kept busy on Netflix on the ipad they provided. Phones are not allowed in the surgery room. I was hoping to have a few conference calls in there for work, didn’t work out. Extractions took about 3.5 hours. Then we had a break for lunch. Food was decent, but I wasn’t hungry after the big buffet breakfast at the hotel. Then I went back in and it was incision time. I was injected with IV which made me drowsy. Dr. Erdogan walked in and started to make the incisions. I fell asleep in the middle and woke up finding them already in the middle of implanting the extracted grafts. It was a long day that ended around 6pm. Then they bandage you up and Dr. Erdogan checks to make sure it all looks good. They give you a neck pillow to sleep on, which I don’t recommend you use. Bring your own memory foam neck pillow, wish I did. The next day, same routine. They washed our hair in the morning and shaved the head again to make sure it’s all the same level. The procedure was the same drill. I had dinner at the hotel that night. Post-op Day 1- The night wasn’t bad, uncomfortable of course as it’s hard to sleep in your back with the neck pillow. The next morning the driver picked me (and others) up after breakfast for the wash. At this point they teach us how to wash and do it for us the first time. I was there for 2 more days and they were kind enough to let me come in in the mornings to get my hair washed. They found some oozing in my graft area which was explained as some residual anesthetic oozing out of my skin. To be on the safe side they gave me more antibiotics. I was fairly comfortable from pain perspective that day. Day 2- I woke up in the morning and found due to the neck pillow, the fluids in the back of my head moved up and formed a big ball at the back of my head. When I stood up it all settled down. Weird feeling. I started to get some pain in the donor area on this day, but assumed it was normal with the number of holes I had in my head (10,000- 5000/5000 recipient/donor). I took painkillers, that helped only a bit. Day 3- I was very uncomfortable in the donor area and asked the clinic about it. They checked the donor area and said it looked normal and gave me a stronger painkiller. I slept on the flight back but woke up in a lot of pain. Day 4- My donor area was swollen, and the pain was not bearable. That night, I had so much pain, I slept like 1.5 hours and was pacing the hallways at night not knowing what it was. The back of my head in the donor area is where it hurt, and it was swollen. Texted Artun asking about it. He asked for pics and talked to the doctor. The doctor reviewed it and said, it looks normal, it will pass in a few days. I called a doctor friend of mine who came over and looked at it. He also said no sign of infection, but that my nerves are finding their way back. I researched the internet and found that although that happens, it is not that painful. He then examined me further and found my neck, traps and upper back were very tight creating a lot of tension in the donor area. I got it massaged and holy shit, what a relief. The nerve ending sensitivity exacerbated the tension in the donor area significantly. The pain after that massage to loosen the muscles went from an 8 to a 2. It was still tingling and uncomfortable to sleep on, but bearable pain. Hot showers and massage helped. Also, i tried to keep my feet off the ground as those nerve endings triggered pain at the bag of my head donor area. Post op responses take a bit longer than I would like. Day 5- The pain came back, but then I got a massage again and it got better again. Donor area still sensitive. Day 6- The pain started to get slightly better. Donor area still sensitive. Day 7- The pain started to get a lot better. Donor area still sensitive, which is normal and okay. Sensitive to cold. Summary: Mid thirties Heading to a Norwood 6 based on balding pattern and family history Donor capacity: 8500 grafts Caliber 55 microns Donor density: 70-80 grafts/cm2. Recipient grafts: 5020 Av number of hairs per grafts: 1.96 Overall experience at the clinic: 9.5/10
Hi Guys I have been a long time reader of this site and have never joined or contributed. I felt now was the time for me to hopefully give something back. After much self debate and research I decided to have a HT with ASMED (Dr Koray Erdogan) In Istanbul. It was hard making the decision to get a HT or not. Part of me thought just shave it off and get on with life, the other part wanted that hairline back. I am well aware that over time I will end up with thinner hair coverage and possibly bald areas on my head. Hair transplants aren't going to give me hair like my early twenties for life, and the transplanted hair will thin out a little over the years too. For me the most important part is my hairline as it frames the face. If I had a good hairline and were thinner round the crown it would bother me less than the receding hair line does. It changes your look entirely as I saw immediately after my transplant. My plan is to fix the front with the hair transplant then try to maintain my existing hair without fin. I may opt for another transplant or 2 in the future to blend the front hairline in gradually to the back as and when it thins out. I hope cloning will be about before I run out of donor hair lol. If not I would quite happily shave my head and get Micropigmentation to hide any scars if necessary and fill in the fill in the transplanted hairs to give the illusion of density. I quite like the buzzed look when you can see a good hairline. I told some family, my girl friend and some friends before the HT and some afterwards but not everyone. I worried a lot about telling people but thought I would rather tell them than try to hide it. They were all supprisingly supportive, I am also quite fortunate that I am travelling from day 10 through to 3.5 months so I can go through the ugly duckling phase whilst away. Here are the details of my HT I'm 38 and this is my first HT I take Minoxidil (I stopped taking 3 weeks prior to surgery) I used to take Fin (8 years) but stopped 4 years ago due to slight sides and not wanting to be on meds for life I use Lipogaine big 3 and Pura dor shampoo cycled every bottle (Stopped 2 weeks prior to surgery) I use the Hairmax Laser Combe (Stopped 2 weeks prior to surgery) The surgery cost 8000 Euros I had 3260 ish grafts in the end. That included all transfers, hotel for 2 nights, surgery and post opp care package. I will add the graft details later, as I'm now away travelling and don't have the details with me. My donor capacity was 8300 approx My hair diameter was 0.63 Microns Here are some pictures pre opp