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  1. I would like to share my recent HT experience at Asmed as this forum played a deciding factor in helping me discover and choose Dr Erdogan, so believe it’s fair to try and give something back based on my own experiences. I’m 31 from the UK and have thought about getting a HT for around 6 years. My hairline started receding from my early 20’s and from around 28/29 I noticed my hair on top was very much starting to thin so knew the time to do something about it was approaching faster then I had anticipated. I actually had 3 consultations in the UK over the space of a couple of years in my late 20’s but when I turned 31 and realised my hair on top was deteriorating quiet rapidly, I realised it was time to do something about it and also be open to having surgery abroad. I contacted a few clinics in Turkey, Cyprus and Belgium and all gave me a very similar graft number quotation. I decided to go with Dr Erdogan at Asmed and though he was one of my most expensive options I just felt I had the best chance of achieving the best results at his clinic. So I booked up and arrived in Turkey the 27th of Feb, the day before my consultation. From the moment I arrived at Istanbul airport and was picked up by my driver the whole experience has been amazing and actually exceeded my expectations. I opted to stay at the clinic itself and it’s very modern, clean and you can tell no expense has been spared as it’s a fabulous building. I had my consultation with Dr Erdogan on the 28th of Feb and on closer inspection my hair needed a lot more work from what he had seen in the 12 photos I had sent. My original estimate of between 2,500-3,000 grafts (which all clinics quoted) turned into 4,000. To be fair once my hair was analysed I had a feeling my hair loss may appear worse then the actual 12 photos of it dry and wet. The Doctor drew a hairline for 4,000 grafts but actually said he would like to use 5,000 grafts to bring my hairline even lower and to add some side temples too. With both lines drawn on my head there was no comparison so I made a phone call back home and luckily arranged to have more money transferred as the cash I brought didn’t cover 5,000 grafts. It also meant having my original procedure start on Friday the 1st of March but I would need a second day on the Monday 4th to finish the procedure. They let met stay at the clinic for the extra days needed for free and my co-ordinator re-arranged my flight back home for me too. I have just arrived back from Turkey and I couldn’t be happier with how everything has worked out. Everyone who works at the clinic are amazing, caring and genuinely do care for your needs. The staff are so friendly and have made my experience much more enjoyable then what I thought it might be. I’m actually going to really miss all the staff, as I say they have all been incredible to me and my personal co-ordinator has been amazing and caring too. She is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met and always kept me updated and answered all questions I had even before I arrived in Turkey. I honestly don’t think I could have picked a better clinic to carry out my procedure and literally couldn’t pick a single fault in the 6 nights I ended up staying at Asmed. I will add some stats on my hair once I arrive home but my thickness is 55 microns and been taking Finasteride 1mg 5 weeks before procedure. Thanks for reading and I would be happy to answer any questions or give advice about choosing Asmed, but so far I’m so happy I decided to go with Asmed. The first 2 photos are straight after my first day of the procedure.
  2. Hi everyone - I've been silently reading this forum for the last few months and it was instrumental in my decision to take the plunge and get a hair transplant. Here's my experience and journey so far. Statistics: Age: 33 NW: High (IV/V, possibly emerging VI but that's my guess) Caliber: 60 microns Hair / Graft Ratio: 2.04 Total Grafts Transplanted: 5,621 Estimated Donor Capacity: 8,200 Background: Like many of you, I’ve suffered from hair loss for most of my adult life, have tried (and abandoned) various hair regrowth treatments and thought becoming bald was my inevitable fate. I only started thinking about hair transplant options over the past 6 months or so when I randomly came across some articles discussing the latest advancements (and horror stories) in the field and the relative inexpensiveness of operations in Turkey and elsewhere. I began researching the topic seriously and this website was instrumental in my decision to go with Dr. Koray Erdogan. In selecting Dr. Koray, I focused on three things - results, passion for the craft and price. Being a high Norwood with a family history afflicted with MPB, I needed someone who had expertise with large HT cases like my own. I cared about passion for the craft because, I believe, thought-leadership and innovation are indicators of success, and I wanted the best-of-class when it comes to a major cosmetic operation that could either be transformative or a major disappointment. Finally, it had to fit my budget... now; I wasn't interested in taking years to save up $30-$45,000 that some US doctors were quoting me. Before settling on Dr. Koray, I researched and consulted with other hair transplant surgeons. As a Southern California native, I looked into local doctors (Armani, Rassman, Bisanga and others), some of the other big names in hair transplant I was coming across (Couto, Frietas, H&W, etc.), as well as other Turkish doctors (Karadeniz, Civas, Doganjay and some of the low-cost options too, like Cinik and Maral). I had a few in person and online consultations with some of these doctors, which was helpful. Frankly, the North American / European doctors who had impressive results were out of my budget. Dr. Koray was comparably priced to some of the average doctors I was seeing in the United States but had a stellar track record over the years and lauded as one of the best in the world. I thought his results put him among the top FUE surgeons in the world. I also found Dr. Koray’s YouTube videos to be very informative (admittedly much of it was PR, but it worked on me), and I became convinced that manual punch FUE in a mega session with some sort of implanter tool (like the KEEP device that Dr. Koray uses) is what would be best for me. In fact, I feel I may have ended up with Dr. Koray regardless of price. Pre-Op Treatment: I reached out to Asmed in early December 2018 and booked for mid-February 2019. At that time I wasn’t under any sort of medication. After my initial discussions with Sema, I went on 1mg generic fin daily and achieved some actual hair growth in the crown and midline areas. Process / Surgery: Others on this forum have gone into specifics around the airport pick-up, hotel, and clinic procedures in considerable detail, so I won’t repeat that here. But what I will mention is this. The Asmed mothership on the Asian side of Istanbul probably represents the pinnacle of what a modern medical facility should be - impeccably clean, sleek and exceptionally designed to shuttle patients from a pristine operating room, to high-tech hair wash / cut and transplant design areas, to an inviting waiting area (where you are greeted with Turkish hospitality in the form of tea, coffee and pastries and live classical music by a violin-piano duo). Everything was thoughtfully planned and laid out, and the process struck a balance between being highly individualized (Sema being my dedicated coordinator and never leaving my side) but productive (which I welcomed - I wanted to be one of the many patients they have great results for). When other people on these forums talk about how Asmed is a world-class facility, it truly is. When you meet Dr. Koray in person, you soon realize that he is singularly focused on your hairline and achieving optimal results based on a plan that takes into account your donor capacity and anticipated future hair loss. My interaction with him was otherwise limited, as I had expected to be from reading the forums, but I didn’t mind that – hairlines (and mine in the moment) are his obsession, and Dr. Koray spent a good 20-30 minutes (and consulted 18 others – my wife counted them) to ensure that mine was the very best for my face. And in Dr. Koray's staff, I felt care, compassion and dedication to implement Dr. Koray’s vision for the optimal hair transplant for me. Sema, my patient coordinator, was knowledgeable, patient and attentive. Nabiyeh, the nurse who was assigned to me the entire time I was there, was compassionate and genuinely concerned about my wellbeing. The surgical assistants had unfailing endurance and nimble, precise hands – in another era, they may well have been expert craftswomen weaving a great Turkish rug but are instead making a masterpiece out of my head and hair follicles. (I would prefer their hands doing the harvesting and implantations over that of any 50-60 year old man, no matter his years of experiences or the number of degrees he holds). Results: I could go on here… but what will ultimately matter, more than anything else I've written here, are my results, so check this thread 12 months’ time and we can all be the judge.
  3. Hello All, I have had 3 consults so far: H&W, Rahal and Bhatti (Darling Buds). All three docs suggested they can get 2500-3500 grafts. Continuing with my research, came across ASMED in Turkey and he has HIGH number of cases (in the results section of his website) with 5000+ FUE Grafts. He also mentions use of custom blades and punches which are 0.6mm/0.7mm. Everyone else I have spoken to uses 0.8mm. Ignoring price/location - is ASMED better than H&W for my case.Why is that ASMED has too many cases of 5000+ FUE while other docs barely have any (they do but exceptions). I'm going to book a consult with ASMED but can you please guide me if it's worth going to ASMED. I'm tired of searching/re-searching since I just end up with more names and they all look good on paper. So, for my case - High norwood diffused - Which is the best doc to go to leaving aside money/location? My expectations are realistic - get front face framed nicely and leave the crown.
  4. This guy had a pretty good result from asmed recently. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/53560-fue-5015-grafts-dr-koray-erdogan-asmed-1st-4th-march-2019/
  5. Hey everyone,I am 34 years old. My main issue with my hair (or lack of it ) is my deep temporal recession (as you can see in the pictures attached). The temples have been receding ever since I was 22. in the age of 26 or so, I have started to take propecia. the treatment pretty much stopped the receding and it is stable for the past 6-7 years.It has always been my dream to have a hair transplant, but because I am very sensitive to ppl and work colleagues seeing me after the transplant and with no hair. I postponed the hair transplant as much as I could. I managed to get 4-5 months leave from work, so I'm hoping I'll have some hair by the time I have to go back to work.Estimations I gotbased on the pictures I sent I got an estimation from Dr. Koray 3800-4000 50 grafts per cm2Dr. koray estimation was the highest from all the clinics I have contacted, but I saw it as a good thing - it's because he plans to cover more of the scalp with hair and for better density. given my current hair loss stage and the fact, the hair loss has stopped for the last 6 years - I was cool with his estimation. Choosing a hair transplant Dr I liked the results of Dr Koray, and I love his hairlines designs, as I like more relatively aggressive hairline (and not the "half circle", most sergeants do).Another plus for ASMED, is my great personal patient coordinator, Suzana. unlike other clinics, I got from Suzana very thorough and quick answers to my questions. she was very patient with me even though I had A LOT of questions. sometimes she misses a few of my questions, but overall she is super helpful, nice and provided me with all the answers I needed - And most importantly she made me feel like someone is with me throughout the process which is very important to me, As I'm doing the procedure in a foreign country.First day - consultationI arrived in Istanbul at 09:00 (12.3.19). ASMED driver waited for me at the airport as Suzana said he would. I checked in the hotel, which is located 2 min walk from the clinic. then ASMED driver waited for me at 12:00 to take me to the clinic (it was raining so I used this service ). Suzana welcomed me at the entrance and then I had some blood tests & heart rate checks. then I got photos of my current state. Afterward, I met DR. Koray he is a very nice person, he saw that my temples area was thin and asked me if I would like to transplant in that area as well to make it denser, I said yes and then he changed the grafts number for hair transplant from 4000 to 4300. he said that I have a good donor zone, and can reach 48 grafts per cm2, and that my average hair per graft ration is 1.9 (he wasn't far it was 2.13 according to his machine analysis). then he drew a hairline he thought is good for me, it was ok but I wanted it a little bit lower and the temples with a little less angle. he said we will consider it after the head shave - only then and after the grafts analysis he can know my actual current state and we will decide together.So, they shaved my head, took a few pictures (shaved) and then I went to this machine that supposed to count the grafts and hairs from the entire head.then we went back to DR he agreed to do the changes I wanted. in the room there where like 5 very pretty girls, he drew the new line (with the tweaks I requested) and each gave her input. the whole prosses took 4 min or so. then I looked in the mirror and was happy with that hairline. the whole prosses took around 8 hours (i waited for the Dr consultation around 3 hours) I got to the hotel at 17:00, with the hairline drawn on my shaved head. I should say that breakfast is served at the hotel and lunch and dinner is served at the clinic. operation day 1+2I got a really professional team (jasmin). I used the iPad they gave me as a mirror to see her work. she seemed very professional.I didn't feel the anesthetics at all and slept half the surgery.after the extraction (that was made by jasmin) i had lunch and got back to the incision part which is done by the Dr himself. when that part is finished jasmin continued to the implanting fase.the second day repeated itself.after the first operation day my face was doubled in size and after the second one, it tripled! I look now like a giant balloon.operation details1st day - hairline and temples - 2400 grafts.2nd day - 1929 grafts'density - 48 grafts per cm572 - Singels2733 Doubles900 - Triples118 - Quadruple6 - QuintpuleHair/grafts ratio 2.13pictures before the HT: pictures after the HT (swollen face): 2 days post op. close up:
  6. I think is message is anyone is capable of hitting a homerun once in a while. I’ll repeat what I said before but personally I would check with a dermatologist specializing in hair loss to see if there is any condition that could be affecting your growth. Maybe a biopsy is in order? Check with asmed on this too.
  7. Hey guys I started losing some hair in my early twenties, not a lot, but some loss on my temples and on the sides. I'm not sure if it was M.P.B. or just a maturing hairline. However, airing on the side of caution I started with finasteride a year ago. The hair loss has since subsided, which I'm happy about, but I would like to have the hair I lost restored. Furthermore, I would like to lower my hairline a bit, because I have always had a naturally high hairline(5HEAD). I researched hair transplant surgoens a few years ago. At that time it seemd like there was an unanimous consensus everywhere that Dr. Koray Erdogan is a quality HT surgeon. So chosing Erdogan was an easy decision. However, after I made the booking and paid the deposit, I have seen a few concerning results from ASMED on this forum. I have also seen good results this past year, so it's not like it has been all bad. However for the price I pay, I don't want it to be a coin flip. In spite of this, the thing that makes me confident to go trough with the surgery is the ASMED warranty, , which I assume guarantees a free touchup if you don't experience 90% regrowth(please correct me if I'm wrong). Hopefully ASMED has taken steps to fix their issues, so a touchup will not be nececarry. We will see. The surgery is in 5 days. I Will update this post with pictures and information once i get to Turkey. For those wondering, my ethnicity is 50/50 black white.
  8. Hello all i have just had 4500 grafts in Istanbul. happy with the results, and want to post my jounrney on here so that I perhaps have advice from fellow forum members here are some photos before surgery and after . I had such a good experience in the Asmed clinic, the professionalism of the team, the efficiency of all team members, friendliness and how they made me feel beats anything I’ve ever expedited in a hospital , dentist etc. It was like being on holiday! If you have any comments let me know. I am hoping that I will have a dense hairline and be able to spike hair up without it looking see through.
  9. To be fair though it seems like there are quite a few good results recently posted on YouTube by asmed as well
  10. I've heard good things but haven't researched him all that much. What you want is to minimise as much risk as you can and have a Dr who will do as much as the procedure as possible themselves.. Clinics also like , Lupanzula spring to mind too in hands on Doc's.. The 2 things that always made me steer clear of clinics like ASMED are they use way too many grafts for area covered .. Not entirely sure if you get what you pay for really. Also technician led surgeries for me a no no. Not doubting they can get good results but too many variables.. Theres another clinic where the Dr caps it at 500 grafts a day but gets top notch results each time so could be 4 day surgery but high chances.. Cant recall his name now .. hopefully someone can chime in
  11. Hey I just saw your results thread and you had bad results like mine. Did you decide on a different clinic to go try again? If so what surgeon? I'm feeling very uneasy about going back to asmed to be honest. I already bought the plane ticket too so I'd have to throw that away if I decide not to go and to use a different surgeon and I'll also have to pay another surgery cost. What do you think?
  12. and you decided to get a touch up from asmed? what is the plan again?
  13. So my HT journey has begun. I arrived in Istanbul last night and my surgery is scheduled for tomorrow (Tuesday morning). Since I found the other Asmed threads really helpful, my intention is to try and do a daily post at least for the first week. I'm sure some of the stuff with be a repeat of what others have said but hopefully I can also include some stuff that others perhaps haven't mentioned before. More than happy to answer any questions so ask away. So here we go... Day -2 Sunday 9th October - I arrived into Sabiha Gokcen airport around 6pm. Flight wasn't too bad, around 4 hrs (London to Sabiha Gokcen). Took about 20 mins to clear security and then I collected my luggage and then made my way to the exit (where family and friends and drivers wait to meet people off flights) and quickly saw the Asmed driver holding up a sign with my name. He didn't say much but was very friendly and took my case for me. We got out of the airport quite quickly and headed straight to the hotel. Traffic was okay at first but then got quite busy. Think it took about 40 mins to to the hotel. Anyway finally arrived at the Radisson Blu (which is Asmed's preferred hotel) and driver even came in and helped me check in. BTW, for any one interested you can upgrade to business class for an extra €15 euros a night. Worth it for the great view (you get a higher floor and I'm on the 15th floor) and you get some extras like free pay movies, free raid of the mini bar. Once checked in I went for dinner around the corner from the hotel then had an early night. Day -1 Monday 10th October- I wasn't scheduled in for my pre-surgery appointment checks until 3:30pm but it was an early start as I was up early to be filmed. Yes, filmed. A few weeks ago Dr Erdogan himself called and asked if I would be happy to be filmed by an American documentary channel. I said yes. It quickly thought about backing out because the thought of being filmed suddenly made me more anxious than the HT itself but after a few days I calmed down and decided what the heck. So cut to me in the hotel lobby this morning being greeted by an American film crew and host. As well as filming at the clinic they wanted to film some footage around Istanbul so we did just that, but staying on the Asia side. We filmed for half a day and then I had about an hour to myself back at the hotel before my clinic appointment. Shortly after I got to the clinic the film crew turned up and this time they also filmed another client. We were both there for our Pre-surgery appointment so they filmed the entire thing. That's basically taking initial pics with current hair, medical checks (ECG, blood glucose, blood pressure) consult with Dr Erdogan and drawing on hairline, shaving head and then finalising the hairline one last time. That took about 2-3hrs but that's because we filmed it all. Guessing it would probably normally be only about 90 mins. After that we all had dinner in the garden and about 7:30 I headed back to the hotel exhausted. So that was it for today. I have to say the clinic were amazing. Clinic itself is beautiful, very modern and slick (Even had a lady playing the piano in the reception). Seems like they have a zillion staff, all who were super friendly and welcoming. You also get a coordinator and mine is the lovely Sevinc. She was on hand at all times. She also sorted some food for me as soon as I arrived knowing I was a little tired after filming. I also got to chat lots with Dr Erdogan and some others on the team. All were very friendly although I will say Dr Umut is a little scary at first, but at one point he half smiled and Dr Erdogan joked that's as close as he ever gets to a smile which itself made me chuckle. Anyway I'm now in the hotel and about to go to bed as tomorrow is surgery day and I need to be up at 6am to get ready and have breakfast before I get picked up at 7:10am. :eek: I'll try and post tomorrow night assuming I'm not too tired, otherwise I'll post the official 'day 1' post on Wednesday.
  14. I thought I would start the thread whilst I was online. Booked in for my second procedure with Asmed on the 18th December 2019. Expected to use between 2000 - 2500 grafts with final numbers to be confirmed the day prior to surgery. My first thread can be found here if you haven't already seen it. If there is anything in particular that you want me to ask or record this time then just let me know.
  15. Alright....looks like it's my turn at the plate. Since I'd used this forum quite a bit when making decisions concerning my hair restoration surgery, I thought I'd share my experience with the community to help others make their decisions as well. My FUE procedure with ASMED was performed 11 days ago (December 17, 2018) and I had 3051 grafts transplanted. My progress and thoughts are described below. Online Quote I submitted my request for a quote on ASMED's website. This was a pretty simple process involving the submission of 12 photos (6 wet, 6 dry) from various angles and the submission of answers, on the website, to certain questions related to my hair loss, hair restoration goals, and medical history. Within a day, I received an email assigning me my patient coordinator. The following, day, I received an estimate for the total graft count I'd likely need, as well as the expected duration (in days) of the surgery and the amount of time I'd need to spend in Istanbul. A rough sketch of the surgical plan was provided, as well as a brief synopsis of what the surgery would entail, as well as the price per graft (2.5 euros) and information about the regrowth warranty. For those who have not done this yet, I'd recommend using a flash when you take your pictures. I didn't use a flash with mine (I used indirect natural light) and ended up getting under-quoted, as the extent of my hair loss at the vertex wasn't completely apparent in the images I had provided. Why I Chose ASMED I did a lot of research prior to making my decision. Out of all the reputable doctors I found (ones who were endorsed by the IAHRS, American Hair Loss Association, and this forum), Dr. Koray had the most patient results posted online, both by the clinic and by the patients, themselves. I had done an analysis of these results on one of the other threads by scanning through three of the online forums, including this one, and found that there was at least an 81% chance of having a good to great result, which was sufficient for me. There weren't really enough reviews of the other doctors to analyze them in a similar way with statistical significance. When combined with the cost of the procedure (which was relatively low compared to other top-tier clinics), dates of availability that aligned with my own, the 90% regrowth guarantee, ASMED's generally good reputation, etc., this clinic seemed like the best match for me. Coordination Prior to Trip While I waited for a few months between the submission of my deposit and my travel date, I peppered my coordinator (Muge) with questions about the process and procedure. For example, I asked her about: Methods of payment (including exchange rates, whether I could bring USD for the cash portion of my payment, etc.). You make an initial deposit in euros (maximum of 3500 euros) and then the remainder of the balance is paid in cash upon arrival at the clinic, on the consultation day. I was allowed to bring USD. To be honest, I wasn't very happy about having to carry thousands of dollars of cash with me (since I was kind of paranoid about losing it or being robbed), but, thankfully, I didn't end up having any issues. Information about my personal safety and the drivers. ASMED provides a photograph of their drivers, who pick you up at the airport, drive you to the hotel/clinic. All transportation to/from the airport and to/from the clinic is handled by ASMED. Information about accommodations. You're given the choice to stay at the Radisson Blu Istanbul Asia or at the clinic itself. I opted for the former, as the rooms at the clinic, as nice as they were, looked/felt a bit too much like hospital rooms. Also, I liked the 24 hour room service available at the hotel and the option to eat in solitude, if I so chose. If you choose to stay at the clinic, however, they provide you free meals throughout the day (you only get breakfast included if you stay at the hotel). Details about who would be performing the various aspects of the surgery, which was a point of contention on these forums. Dr. Koray performs the consultation, draws the hairline, and does the incisions during the surgery. Techs to the extraction and implantations. I discussed this at length with my coordinator and had a thorough understanding of how this would work long before I traveled; by the time I made the trip, I was comfortable with this arrangement. From what I was told, all technicians are required to meet specific, rigorous requirements (certain number of years practicing with the clinic, quality certification, etc.) before they are allowed to take part in the surgery. My coordinator was responsive, quick, and went out of her way to allay any of the concerns I had. She responded to me by email, phone (on the rare occasion when texting wouldn't be sufficient), and WhatsApp texting. Flights, Transportation, and Hotel I'm not going to go into detail about the flights, as that whole process is pretty straightforward and not really relevant to the clinic itself. Given that I'm from the US, I did need to get a travel visa to enter Turkey (you can do this online in advance and it costs about 20 USD). As expected, my driver was waiting for me in the airport arrivals area. He was holding a tablet with my name on it. The ride from the airport to the hotel was about 45 minutes (you cross from the European side of Istanbul to the Asian side) and I was the only passenger. The driver was friendly and responsive to my requests; he even described some parts of the city to me, as if he were giving a tour, during the drive. Additionally, water bottles and snacks were available inside the car. I opted to stay in the hotel for the reasons previously described. The room is comfortable and clean and there's a nice view of Istanbul if you're on one of the higher floors. Moreover, the hotel has 24 hour room service and a reasonably diverse menu -- this was a big selling point for me, as I was a bit self conscious about leaving the room with my head all marked up before the surgery and bandaged up after surgery. The employees at the front desk speak English, though the room service bellhops sometimes don't (IMO, they didn't really need to). The hotel has a spa and other pretty cool amenities, though I'll admit I didn't take advantage of many of them. In-Person Consultation On consultation day (the Friday before the procedure), I was driven to the clinic in the early afternoon. I was promptly greeted in the lobby by my coordinator, as well as a host who asked if I needed a drink or a snack (she did this repeatedly throughout the day). Two girls in the lobby serenaded the waiting patients with piano and violin. The atmosphere was light and relaxing. There were several other patients in the lobby at the same time, taking a break from various stages of the consultation. My coordinator sat down with me and gave me an overview of what I should be expecting that day, as well as on surgery day. After we discussed certain questions I had, she led me to various rooms for different stages of the pre-operative process, including a blood test and EKG, photographs, head shaving, etc. These activities were generally smooth and quick, though I had one small criticism -- specifically, that I had to wait for a while in the lobby for Dr. Koray to finish surgery before my in-person consultation. I was really jetlagged and tired at the time and it would've been better if I didn't have to wait nearly as long between the tests and the consultation with the doctor (like if they had timed me to come later in the afternoon). Other than this, everything was pleasant. When I met with Dr. Koray in his office, he greeted me warmly and introduced me to some of the other senior staff members. He came across as affable, jovial, and welcoming. As I introduced myself, he cracked a joke about the trend line from my analysis on this forum; at first, I was a bit taken aback that he knew I was the author, since I never actually identified myself (but I guess there weren't many American patients coming at the same time as I was). I sat down and Dr. Koray showed me the photographs taken earlier that day on his monitor. I showed him my own printed photos of what I wanted to look like (images of me from about 5 years ago), as well as pictures of my bald grandfather as an illustration of family history. Dy. Koray explained that we could meet my goal, but that I was, unfortunately, on my way to a NW6 (I'm currently NW3). He went on to explain that the degree of surgical intervention required would likely be higher than originally expected. As mentioned above, the photos taken at the clinic revealed noticeable thinning at the crown/vertex that wasn't nearly as apparent in the images that I had taken at home. The doctor recommended that I take finasteride in order to avoid having to come back to have the vertex worked in the near future (I was only quoted for a one day surgery on the frontal part of my head) and I explained to him the negative experience (i.e., side effects) that I'd experienced with finasteride years ago. He said he understood and that he respected my position, given that I'd tried it already in the past. I ultimately decided that I prefer to avoid finasteride (given what happened the first time I used it) and might come back to Turkey for a second round later, if necessary. I'll deal with the vertex when the time comes; this way, I'll have a chance to see how the results on the front part of my head turn out before I make any more decisions. At this point, the doctor took measurements of my hair and explained the calculation he uses to determine coverage. He then drew a hairline and asked for my thoughts. I was a bit picky with the hairline and requested several tweaks (including one small modification on the morning of the surgery) so that the line would match the natural one I used to have as closely as possible/reasonable. The doctor was patient with me and made the changes I asked for. After we were finished, and as I was getting up to leave his office, Dr. Koray turned to me and said something to the effect of "LordBaldwin, I can tell you care a lot about details, and so do I. I won't disappoint you." He went out of his way to reassure me; it seemed like he cares a great deal about making his patients happy. Surgery On surgery day, I was driven to the clinic early in the morning. I was taken to a small locker room to change into a surgical gown and was then led to the surgical room. The entire surgical area was very clean and organized (as an example, my coordinator had me change into a different set of shoes that they provided me as I entered into the "clean area"). In the surgical room, the team gave me a blanket and checked that I was comfortable. The anaesthesiologist asked me if I was nervous and I told him that my heart rate (which was showing on one of the monitors as around 90 bpm) is usually around 70 bpm. He nodded and injected me with a benzodiazepene and a sedative. I almost immediately relaxed. I sat upright with a head support wedged between my chin and my lap as the technicians injected my scalp with local anaesthetic and began the extraction phase. As they proceeded, they were very professional and repeatedly asked me if I felt any pain (if I did, they'd give me some more local anaesthetic). As grafts were removed from the donor area of my scalp, one of the technicians observed them under a microscope and counted, in real time, how many singles, doubles, triples, etc. had been extracted. These numbers were displayed on a screen in front of me. My coordinator handed me a tablet in case I wanted to surf the web or watch a movie. If I recall correctly, extractions took about 3 hours. We took a break for lunch, which the clinic provided. Upon returning to the operating room, I was told I could lie down for the remainder of the surgery. I was hooked back into the IV and Dr. Koray came in to do the incisions. I don't remember exactly how long the incision phase took since I was sedated and kept drifting in and out of sleep, but I do remember Dr. Koray working on me for some time, then shaking my hand at the end and mentioning that my circulation was very good and I'll be very happy with how things turn out. I slept through most of the implantation phase as well, up until the last hour or so. The technicians were methodical and quiet, and my coordinator, who sat across from me, assured me that everything was going well and repeatedly asked how I was doing. In total, the procedure took about 9 hours. After it was over, I was led back down to the photography room for post-operative photos to be taken. I was given instructions on how to do the post-op washes, sat under a laser/light follicular stimulation pod for a little while, and then was invited to dinner at the clinic (invitations for dinner at the clinic were extended to me every night I was in Istanbul, except for the weekend). Although I was only required to stay until the next day for the first wash, I opted to stay for an additional two days to recover a bit before I traveled back to the US. In the morning on each of the additional two days, I was driven back to the clinic for my morning wash (and some tea). Overall Impression Overall, I'm very happy with my experience at ASMED and would recommend it to other prospective patients (provided that they've done their due diligence and understand how surgeries are performed there). Since I had prepared extensively for my trip, I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to experience and there were no surprises. All of the employees were very accommodating, friendly, and attentive, and I felt well taken care of. The clinic itself was large, clean, and modern (ASMED had clearly spared no expense). A couple of other little pluses I noted: - On one occasion, I asked if the clinic had Turkish coffee (I wanted to try this since I didn't really get the chance to explore Istanbul while I was there). They didn't have it at that moment, but they actually went out and got it for me the following day! This was a relatively minor thing, but it impressed me. - On the last day I was there (when I came to the clinic for my third wash), Dr. Koray came into the room and asked me about my experience, making sure that it was positive. I told him I had enjoyed my time there, which he was happy to hear. The fact that he cared so much about my experience struck me very positively. Progress First, some hair characteristics... Hair thickness: 55 microns Hair per graft: ~2.44 Donor capacity prior to surgery: 8400 grafts Number of grafts transplanted: 3051 over 60 cm^2 Transplanted graft density: ~50 grafts/cm^2 And now, some pictures. Pre-Operative: Surgical Plan: Immediate Post-Operative (Day 0): Day 2 Post-Op: Day 3 (swelling is mostly gone): Day 5 (scabs and some minor cracking visible): Day 7 (vast majority of the scabs have come off): Day 10:
  16. I am currently approaching 3 months after FUE with 4264 Grafts. I was not originally planning on making a post but decided I should as I have Fine hair (47 Mircrons) and was concerned going in that my donor hair would't be acceptable and did not see many fine hair cases and this board was instrumental in me deciding on Dr. Koray. I will not get into the details of travel and hospitality except to say everything you read about the level of service is absolutely correct. Everyone from the drivers to nurses are very kind and attentive. I was flying from the US so wanted to make sure I had the money required with me. I was going to exchange USD to Euro but was told the exchange rate would be good and they accept USD. Anyone traveling from USA should bring USD and pay in USD. The exchange rate they used was simply googling the current exchange rate and rounding down. There was no commission charged. If I had converted at my bank in USA they would have charged close to 5%. I was originally quoted 5000 grafts but after my consultation, Dr Koray recommended 4200 with 4000 in the front and 200 in the back. He originally thought I would get about 1.8 hairs per graft average. In the end, I received 4262 grafts and they used 400 in the back instead of 200 as my average hair per graft ended up being 2.04. (I was only charged for 4200) I will attach some pictured of various stages including more pictures as hair hopefully comes in. If anyone has any specific questions related to travel from USA let me know and appreciate any comments on my progress. As I stated above the quality of care is extremely high even more so than even USA standards. The only complaint I had would be the communication post opp was not great. I think one issue I had was my coordinator, Buqet (I thought Buqet was amazing) left to return to school almost immediately after I had my procedure so I was dealing with someone else who was taking over for her. I was very concerned with the scabs and getting them off and there were several days where I didn't receive communications when I could have used advise so If someone from Asmed is reading this post I would recommend having someone who is solely responsible for post opp care and questions.
  17. . ASMED SURGICAL MEDICAL CENTER DR KORAY ERDOGAN - PATIENT'S AGE: 36 - NW: III - Total transplanted area: 60 cm2 - Total donor capacity: 8100 grafts * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital density: 70–70-90 uf/cm2 * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital Hair Diameter: 50-50-50 micron - OPERATION DETAILS: 2625 grafts FUE extracted by manual punch, diameter 0.6,5 & 0.7mm. Incisions executed by: custom made blades sapphire, lateral slit. Placed with K.E.E.P. * 504 grafts single * 1232 grafts double * 737 grafts triple * 152 grafts multiple * General average Hair per Graft: 2.21 - GRAFTS DISTRIBUTION: 2625 grafts were used to restore the patient's FRONTAL and MIDLINE areas. - FINASTERIDE: The patient is using the medicine since the operation. * Please note that the "RESULT" pictures were taken by the PATIENT. BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 10 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 10 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 10 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 10 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 10 MONTHS
  18. Hello everybody. I just wanted to share my recent FUE hair transplant experience at ASMED clinic, since this forum helped me a lot in choosing the clinic and to know what could be expected from hair transplant surgeries. To be honest, i were little bit worried about some of the latest result that has been shared by some of ASMED patient, but eventually i made my decision and hopefully i picked the right one. I will try to summarize the whole experience as a mush as possible, since most of other asmed patients already described the whole process in an excellent way, and believe me all of what they mentioned regarding the services, such as accommodations, transfers, and postoperative care all were right and really exceeded my expectations. The online consultation: Based on the photos i have send to asmed website, they responded to me that i needed around 5000-5500 grafts and the total payment will be between 12500-13750 euros (2.5 euros/graft). So i transferred 4000 euros through my bank account (the maximum possible amount of transfer), while holding the remaining in cash. Day of arrival 07/08/2019: I arrived to Istanbul on Wednesday before 10 am, according to the email that was sent to me by asmed, mentioning that i need to be in Istanbul the day before surgery before 10 am, in order to give them enough time for the presurgical tests and consultation. My coordinator was Suzana, and i was extremely lucky to be assigned with her, since she was a very nice person, very informative, and taking care about all of what you need either before or after the surgery. Asmed driver was awaiting me in the airport with a sign holding my name, and they were very serious regarding this matter, since you are traveling with this amount of huge cash money, thats why they provided me with a list of photos for asmed drivers, in order to be able to recognize him once i arrived. I choosed to stay at asmed suite for the days of the surgery, and i reserved by my own an extra 5 nights following the surgery at radisson blue asia hotel, just to have enough time for healing before traveling back home, and to have my hair wash at the clinic the first week following the surgery. 2 hours after arriving to asmed, suzana took me for the blood test, followed by meeting with dr.koray who drew the hair line and estimate the amount of total donor capacity. I were not convinced in the beginning regarding the hair line, since it looks to be conservative as what he said, but he mentioned that my hair loss would continue in the future, and it will be unnatural if he made it lower than this level. Then they shaved my head, which was totally unfamiliar to me, since it was my first time shaving my head, and i can tell you that i didnt like the shape of my head at all, and i will do whatever it takes to avoid getting bold at the end. Again at the end dr.koray together with his staff refine the hair line after shaving. Finally my scalp was scanned and analyzed by the Kebot system for 15 minutes. DAY 1 SURGERY 08/08/2019 I had my breakfast around 6:30 am, i were little bit nervous, and thats why they gave me Xanax pill in order to make me relax before the surgery, and it really helped. They shaved my head again, then the surgery started around 7:30. I was prepared before going into the process by making my own research, and it was almost like what i expected. Pain during the local anasthetic injections, while other part of the surgery was painless, especially with the IV drug the Dr.Umut (the serious anasthelogist doctor) giving you through the surgery. I were in and out for most parts of the surgery, just if i am dreaming. The extraction phase took around 3 hours, and for me it is the worst and most inconvenient part of the surgery. Then they gave me a lunch break for around 10 minutes. Dr.koray then came and did the incision part, which take almost 25-30 minutes maximum, and final the implantation part which was again done by the techs. for additional 3 hours, and in that part i were totally sleep. After finishing the surgery they took all of the patient that been operated in the same day for a 10 minutes laser therapy to facilitate healing, after which dr. koray came and evaluate all of the patient and make sure that every thing is going in the proper way. DAY 2 SURGERY 09/08/2019 Same as the first day, except for me it was more painful than the first day, especially the extraction phase, i am not sure why, but according to some of the other patient i met at asmed and had a previous HT surgeries, they mentioned that the vertex part of the scalp is usually more painful than the frontal part that has been done in the first day. After completing all the surgeries, they take you again for the Kebot machine that analyze every part of the scalp for around 15 minutes. Day 3 first hair wash 10/08/2019 They remove the bandage from the donor area, and they apply the conditioner followed by the shampoo and gives all the instructions that you need to follow in the following 10 day after surgery. As i said, i stayed for additional nights at radisson blue, so they were washing my hair daily at the clinic, but its not necessarily, since it seems to be a straightforward process. In a conclusion, i am happy about everything regarding my experience, especially the services provided by the clinic, the quality of work until the moment, and Suzana (my coordinator). I wished that i had a more aggressive hairline, bit i hope this hair line will suite my face. Also i wished that dr.erdogan spent more time with us during the consultation , since it was only 10 minutes discussion before getting into this major decision. I will try to update on a monthly basis, and happy to hear you comments. Hair situation and medication: - Androgenic alopecia: NW5 - Finestraide: proscar (1.25 mg) started with the procedure. - 5% Minoxidil: stopped using it 3 weeks before the surgery ( i have been using it twice a day for 9 years). Graft calculator: Total: 5512 Ratio: 2.13 Single: 1045 Double: 2821 Triple: 1545 Quardruple: 95 Quintpule: 5 Sextuple: 1 Hair thickness: 67 microns
  19. I've just returned to the UK after my HT at the ASMED clinic in Istanbul. I traveled on the 15th Oct and returned on the 18th. I have to say this site was instrumental in providing the forum to talk with others who had walked the path, as the saying goes. A big thank you to member HG1 for all the support and also the recommendation to watch the HT_Fanboy videos, thanks also to fanboy for making the videos, again instrumental in helping to choose ASMED. The journey from the UK to the clinic was straight forward and from the moment you clear passport control in Istanbul ASMED have you covered. I was picked up by one of the drivers whom I recognised from the photos sent to me by my coordinator. I won't go into too much detail regards the clinic as it's been well documented, only to say that everything you read and hear about ASMED is spot on. Everyone from the drivers, receptionists, clinical staff up to Dr Koray Erdogan (the whole team :-) are nothing short of brilliant. If I could think of a better word trust me it would be used. During my HT I met some other fellow patients from the US, Mexico, Sweden, Germany and a few other places. Hoping you get my point we all travel far and wide to be treated by Dr Koray Erdogan as we all agreed he comes top of the list for amazing results. Cutting to the chase my surgery consisted of 5061 grafts over the three days, 1 day consultation and prep and two days completing the HT surgery. The care and attention to my well being was of the highest standards anywhere. I will provide ongoing updates on my progress every 4 to 5 weeks with some photo's to give you an idea. If I can help answer any questions please don't hesitate to hit the reply.
  20. Bump; please comment. H&W - Not too much communication; no way to contact doc directly. Rahal - Does the harline design and incisions only, everything else done my techs. Asmed - Too many grafts, not sure how to think of it, does to "over-harvest"? Any prior patients who can comment. Diep - Didn't like his hair line design. What other surgeons should I be looking at?
  21. Hey guys I am a 35 yo male from London and arrived home last night from Istanbul so I will talk about my experience at Asmed. I wanted to keep this brief but to hell with it I couldn’t help it. Firstly a big thank you to both Sema and Suzana who were my coordinators. Sema - who helped me over the past year since I contacted Asmed and Suzana who was with me throughout the experience and never left my side. She is very fluent in English and communication and organisation was excellent. In fact everyone at Asmed looked after me very well and never made me feel awkward. Not to forget the anesthetist Dr Umat who is a very interesting individual :). Initially I sent Asmed (Sema - my initial coordinator) my photos 12 months ago and Dr Erdogan recommended 5000 grafts and for me to start finesteride before surgery as without it I may not be happy with the end result because of my type of hairloss. I was a bit weary of finesteride side effects so it took a month for me to decide what to do because for me hair transplants and finesteride go hand in hand. So a couple of months went by (sept - dec 2017) eventually I got on brand name Propecia 1mg by Merck. I started slowly as advised by a hair loss expert we all know - it took me till January until I was using it more or less every day. In this time I was in constant communication with Sema discussing dates etc. And getting my finances sorted. So in January I asked to book the surgery in May however they had very few dates and I could not get the amount of time I wanted from work. I use Toppik hair fibres and Asmed advise patients not to use it for 6 months so I wanted as much time not using it as possible after surgery. So my work allowed me to take 3 months leave (mix of unpaid and paid) - yes a lot of time but only 6 weeks was unpaid. So in February we decided on 3rd and 4th Oct. 2018 (2500 grafts per day) this was actually good because I would have been on Propecia 10 months. You can send from 1000 to 3000 euros - I sent 1000 initially and just before I went I sent another 2000 just after Dr Erdogan looked again at my updated photos (as it was nearly a year since the initial ones)to confirm. I used TransferWise as they take the actual exchange rate on Google and not lower rates like banks provide. I would need to arrive before 14:00 on 2nd Oct for the consultation however there were no flights that arrive before that time on BA from Heathrow Airport. There were other flights from different airlines but I wanted BA as I could get the flight for £75 return and free long stay parking (as I know someone who works there), I was already spending so much on the surgery so I wanted to keep costs down. Sema very kindly allowed me to arrive in the evening of 1st Oct, 2nd Oct - consultation, 3/4 Oct surgery 5th Oct shampoo/clean and departure for home at 1625. This extra night came at no extra cost. Initially I booked the clinic’s own suite but there was a problem with the room so they booked me into the Raddison blue hotel (5 mins from clinic) all days free and breakfast included. This turned out much better because although Asmed can make you breakfast, they close in the evening and the only people there are security and local restaurants are not very close. Just take a yellow taxi (with meter) from the hotel for 10 liras (just over a pound) and ask to go to the Palladium shopping and restaurant complex 5 mins away. If you need to change money into Turkish Lira change it at this complex just ask anyone for "change office" which is in the shopping center. I wanted to see the famous blue mosque and grand bazaar but it is an hour away. Day of Arrival (Mon 1st Oct) Flight arrived at 1630 just a 4 hour flight from London Heathrow Airport. The Asmed driver was there with my name written on an iPad (transfer from airport to hotel and all journeys between hotel and Asmed are free). He gave me his phone as Suzana (my day to day coordinator) spoke on the phone me and welcomed me to Istanbul and said she will be in constant touch with me on whatsapp and in the clinic she will be taking care of me the entire time. The car was a large Mercedes people carrier with beautiful red leather seats and plenty of snacks to enjoy. Because of the time of day it took close to an hour to get to the hotel because of rush hour. The Hotel room was very good and I took a taxi to the Palladium center. You just need to tell the hotel reception to get you a taxi and it comes right away, they have a meter on so you won't be ripped off. Took 5 mins cost me a pound and walked around the shopping center, ate some delicious kebabs and got a taxi which are always there and got back to my room to get some sleep. Day 2 (Consultation) Suzana sent me a whatsapp message saying that the driver will pick me up at 12:45. I got into the car with 2 other people who also were having their consultations. You should know that you won't be the only patient in the day as I will come to later. We were greeted at reception by our respective coordinators and reception staff. The clinic is amazing, clean, modern and very classy at the same time. There a couple of women who are playing the piano and violin in the reception area. So Suzana sat me down and said that she will wait here with me until we are called for the consultation. Dr Erdogan and his team were very busy during this time and surgeries were still going on so we needed to wait an hour before they could see us. However, in this time I was offered some snacks and asked to read through some paper work and sign that I understood all the terms. All of this would have been sent to you when you booked so it is just the same. After that I was taken downstairs for blood tests to test for HIV etc.. All clear. I then went into the photography room and had my photos taken both dry and wet hair shots from all angles. A while later I and my coordinator were called into Dr Erdogan's office. It was like meeting a king and I told him so - I have very been following him for few years and on social media so it was quite a hair raising moment for me. So in the consultation it was Dr Erdogan, another doctor, one of his senior surgical assistants and my coordinator. Dr Erdogan very quickly broke the ice with me and told me how happy he was to see me as when he saw my name he realized I am of Pakistani descent (born UK) and how happy he was about that because he has always liked people from there so that was a nice start. He went over some basic things with me and said that I am a candidate for hair transplantation after looking at the blood tests. He had a screen in front of him with my photos from just earlier and discussed what he can do. He said that my hair loss pattern was more Ludwig patterned rather than the usual norwood cases. He analysed my hair in detail with his apparatus and said that my hair is of very good quality with a total donor of 8500. In general he said that safe zone hair can be effected by DHT as seen by very old people and looking at my age (35) it is possible to lose 10% of safe zone hair in my lifetime and that if I came off finesteride later in life it is possible that my total donor capacity is at 7500 so even though my real donor is 8500 he sees it as 7500. He drew a hairline and asked what I thought. It was probably a tiny bit higher than I would have liked but he said that once transplanted it will look lower but my main concern were no temples drawn because mine are quite faint. He said in a funny way that he really does not like my crown. I have not got a massively receding hairline and that patch on the top really does stick out like a sore thumb. So he drew my temples and it looked great but he said he would need 700 grafts just for that and he can't cover the top properly as well in 1 operation so if want that it would be 700 less grafts in my crown and it still won’t look that good on top. He wanted 2000 grafts just for the crown 2500 for the hairline and just above and the remainder 500 in the mid-scalp as he said it has a lot of and hairs. He said it was up to me but if I leave it to him that is the way he would do it and I can always come back and do the temples after a year or so. I thought about it and knew already that the crown was my priority - it is a different type of hair loss pattern. So I said to him I will go with his instinct and he said I will be very happy with my result. He actually told me later on that he would in fact put 2100 in the crown and 400 just below that instead of the 500 so my crown should have a big difference he said. This was not the final hairline and he would refine it after hair shaving. Consultation lasted about 20 minutes I had a bunch of questions for him but he really is to the point and just gets on with his analysis and what he can do for you. After that Suzana took me to the finance department where I paid the outstanding amount in Pounds Sterling cash. If your home currency is pounds or USD I advise you to pay in that currency to them. It saves you changing into euro where you won’t get a good rate and will have to pay some fees. The rate the clinic gave me was much better than at home and they don’t charge you for them to change it into euros. After this I got my hair shaved off! It actually looked alright! I waited for Dr Erdogan to make his final refined hairline plans. He told me that he will go into the temples a bit so that was good news. Whilst this was going on he has a big team of people watching. These are the techs or surgical assistants (as he calls it) who will work with you for the entire surgery. If you have 2 days surgery like me they don’t have different teams, it’s the same people working on you. I was then taken to the room where they have their latest robot – the K-bot. You sit with your head against a support pad and the camera takes 3d images of your entire head and you can see on the screen your grafts in detail. This helps the doctor further in his analysis. This lasts for 15 minutes but you can be on your phone – I actually took a video of what the K-bot was doing but I don’t think you can post videos here. This all took best part of 4 hours from waiting at the start to the end. Dropped back to the hotel went into town again for a nice kebab (with lines in my head). Yes you have to keep the lines on and not rubbed off because they then have to go through the whole process again. And no wearing hats so I was laughed and smiled at a lot whilst walking through town it was surreal. Day 3 (Surgery 2515 grafts) Asmed advise you to where a buttoned shirt before and after surgery. I woke up at 6 am, 6:30 breakfast buffet – plenty of variety. For 3 days including this day I had to take an antibiotic tablet with breakfast and Xanax to calm me although I only needed that for the first day. It wasn’t till I got down there that I realised how many of us were being operated on. Including me it was 6 guys at breakfast ready to be taken to Asmed. Three of them already had their first day hairline surgery and the rest of us were on our first day. I was slightly taken back by this because I was sure they only did 4 surgeries a day but I guess it can depend on the cases. One guy was just having his hairline refined. All 6 of got into the people carrier and went to Asmed. We were given Asmed buttons shirts and bottoms to wear for surgery and it really is straight into it from that point. My coordinator took me to the surgery room and I met all the people involved with my surgery. I asked who will be doing the extractions and how long they had been working there. One person would be doing the extractions and she has been doing ONLY extractions for 7 years so I felt assured. Suzana showed me the microscope where they dissect single hair grafts as I was querying this lot. So onto the anaesthetics – Dr Umat organises this. He is a very interesting person he looks serious but he is a really cool person and fun to talk to, if he ever reads this I hope you are well and very active! This is the most painful part of the surgery, they have something that vibrates as they inject many times into your scalp which makes it a bit easier. If it is too much, they can give you something through the I.V your arm help ease you. It acts really quick and she starts extracting and you cannot feel a thing. You have a screen in front which tells you how many grafts have been extracted and if they’re singles, twos etc…I actually had a fair amount of 4s 5s 6s. Suzana was in the room with me the whole time she was a great help. She gave me a face rest support where I could also stick my I pad on it to watch stuff on. Sema came in now and I watched a popular bald show (we all know) re run from the previous night just to keep them on their toes and they knew what it was. This whole process takes more than 3 hours (I think) as I just lost track of time I didn’t sleep at all. They extracted 2515 grafts in total. Dr Erdogan did not come in during this time but his most experienced surgical assistant – Dilek came in at certain points. Dr Erdogan watches all the surgeries on monitor in his office and directs if need be from there which I am not completely happy about but the results are good. Next was 30 minute lunch maybe less and back to the operating room where I’m prepped and given anaesthetics for the recipient area before the main man Dr Erdogan comes in and shakes my hand and begins the incisions. The techs cover my eyes and hold my face in certain positions as the doctor instructs them whilst he pokes away. This takes him 30 – 40 mins and he shakes your hand and moves to the next patient. The same person that did the extractions is now joined by Dilek who both start the implanting stage. This can be prickly and pain a bit so they test certain areas and ask you is it painful or not. If it is they put some liquid type anesthetic so you don’t feel it. In fact at any time you feel pain you must tell them and they will ease it. They put a special blue solution over the recipient area which highlights all the incisions Dr Erdogan made. At some point they realised they covered the required area and had a few more grafts so Dilek made a few extra incisions which is fine as she is possibly the best tech going. Implants can take quite a while I cannot remember exactly but it was just a bit less than the extractions so maybe 2 hours. Once it is done I felt very tired walked very slowly as I was trying to get my bearings right. The trauma and anesthetics can make you very tired. So Suzana came with me to another room where they sat me down under a low level red laser for 10 mins to help with healing. After that she gave me ATP spray and said I must put spray my recipient area a few times every 2 hours with it. She also gave me ice cooling gel to help with swelling. Its only till a few days later I realise how big my face got! I went back to the hotel, my forehead looked bigger because of the swelling had something to eat in the hotel restaurant – felt like crap but hotel staff are used to Asmed patients so I mixed in well. I went back upstairs for a very awkward night. Didn’t sleep much, Suzana gave me neck pillow and for the first 10 days you need to sleep with this on your back facing up (no rolling about) do not let your recipient area rub anything as this is a very sensitive time for your scalp. I wasn’t in much pain but I just felt completely shattered and sleepy but I kept waking up in the night but I got through it somehow. Day 4 – (Surgery 2505 grafts) Exactly the same as day 3. Note that grafts it is not exactly 5000 grafts (5020) they do not tell you to pay for these extra few. So that is it, surgery complete and Dr Erdogan came and said he is happy with the way it looks and is just the way he wanted it and said he will see me tomorrow. In terms of reactions to the surgery at the time I had swelling but by the time I wrote this my face was huge I look like sloth from the goonies – google it if you don’t know. But this is all part of it. Some people have more sensitive bodies than others. Just have to keep applying ice packs. Day 5 – (Wash and go) Another awkward night but managed to have breakfast and be picked up at 9:50 am. Suzana was at reception and took me down for the shampoo and washing. This is what you have to do on your own for 10 days post op so pay attention when they tell you. They took the bandages off washed me and I felt fresh again and went in for the final post op photos. They gave me some Turkish delight sweets as a gift and a power pack. As well as this as they knew I was on Proscar (I changed to proscar a month earlier – cost effective and same brand Merck) they gave me 1 year supply of Proscar (£200 worth) for free and a pill cuter! They gave me a USB stick with all my surgical details and photos as well as various papers of post op instructions. All the post op shampoos and creams are free. Suzana bid me farewell she was really good to me the entire time and I told her I’ll be back in a year for results photographs only downside Dr Erdogan didn’t meet me I left but I guess he is busy with all the other patients. Dropped to the hotel at 12 and was told the driver will be back at 14:00 for airport drop of. So that’s it I hope I didn’t bore you with the details there is more I could write but those details may come up in the future in the meantime I have posted photographs taken at Asmed below. Surgery Details : 1148 Single 2589 Double 1158 Triple 119 Quadruple 6 Quintuple Total Grafts: 5020 Avg hair: 2.05 per graft Hair thickness: 61 microns Medication: Proscar 1.25 per day since January 2018 Pre-Op Plans: Post OP
  22. The best decision of my life was to fly to Turkey to have a hair transplant with Dr Koray Erdogan. It was a decision I made after 2 years of research, a couple of consultations with UK clinics (who i wasn't very impressed with) and after reading the numerous positive reviews and amazing before and after pictures, i booked to go to Asmed. I was impressed with the results from the 5000 plus grafts they had done. I required the same and UK clinics didnt give me any confidence they could do this over 2 days. They told me I would have to have 2 smaller surgeries 1 year apart. COST - Yes, Asmed was more expensive than other clinics in Turkey, however trust me, the saying that you get what you pay for is very true in life. I have friends who went to a cheap clinic and the results are unnatural, thin, and poor results. Compared to mine it is worlds apart. I knew with Asmed that for 5000 grafts I would get assurance that survival rate of each graft would be high and the results natural. No one can tell from my results I have had a transplant unless i tell them. I also get my sides shaved to a 0.5 i have no scarring!! I had my transplant over 2 days on 15th and 16th May 2018. When I arrived at the clinic I was immediately put at ease by the kind natured staff that greet you and are very comforting, putting any anxiety at ease. My patient co-ordinator was Suzanna who i cannot praise highly enough. She really is an amazong person, great at her job and makes sure you are comfortable through out your stay. The best way i can describe my experience at Asmed was that they treated me as if I was the most important person in the world. Something very impressive considering they see patients every day. BIG shout our to Dr Umut Kartal the anaesthetist who is a great guy. We had good chats and he always made sure i wasn't it pain. I really cannot recommend Asmed highly enough. They changed my life. I am no longer self conscious about losing my hair. Due to how much hair i had lost I may need to have a 2nd op to thicken up my crown as I wanted most of my grafts for the mid and front of my head. I am not planning a 2nd op as of yet as I'm delighted withthe results, however if I do, it will without doubt be back to see the best clinic, in my opinion, in Europe. Thanks Dr Koray Erdogan, Suzanna and the many others there that don't get a mention
  23. Hi all, Just had FUE at ASMED to restore and improve my headline, not going to go into detail about the whole process as its been covered many times on here, although I believe i was one of the first to experience their HT at ASMED's new building and was very impressive in both size and luxury. So i was originally suggested 2800-300 grafts via email, but during the consultation with Dr Koray when he drew the hairline on himself he sugguested 3200 and adding some temple work which i agreed to. so some stats and pictures below: total grafts:3235 hair/graft: 2.21 singles: 518 doubles: 1650 triple: 938 quadruple: 127 quintuple: 2 sextuplet: 0
  24. Hi Everybody. I have previously had a 3000 graft FUE at ASMED 12 months ago, linked here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186728-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th.html Overall very satisfied with the results from the first procedure, but still wanted to address the crown which was previously untouched, as well as density issues in some areas of the previous transplant, and create a slightly more aggressive hairline with more youthful closure at the temples, including an alteration to the overall design. Some background on my situation, I was initially a NW3V diffusing in a NW5 pattern that is very noticeable when wet but not an issue dry and with longer hair, 22 years old at the time, and had stabilised on finasteride. First procedure was solely for the hairline and created a slightly conservative NW 1.5-2 with 3070 grafts. My donor had roughly 9500 grafts to begin with and I am left with potentially another 2000-3000 after the second procedure, but the clinic suggested this is impossible to know for sure unless it is analysed 12 months down the track. In online consult 2000-2500 grafts were suggested for crown and frontal work, but in person Koray thought 3000 would be worthwhile to create a significant improvement in both the crown frontal third. Ultimately suggesting 1500 in the frontal third and 1500 in the crown. He also seemed impressed with the standard of my donor after the first procedure. Some stats on the second procedure: 3038 grafts – Hair/Graft ratio: 2.1 (quite a bit lower than the first time round) Average Hair Thickness – 50 microns Singles - 557 Doubles - 1709 Triples - 697 Quadruples - 74 Quintuples - 1 Sextuples - 0 Minor points, this time I stayed at the hotel rather than the clinic and preferred it quite a bit. Very comfortable and calming, good food for very cheap prices and there's a lot of options for places to visit a quick walk away also. That said the clinic room was very convenient. Of course as with last time the clinic staff and my clinic supervisor were very accommodating. A few have mentioned forgetting to covert some Euros to Lira upon arrival to Istanbul, the clinic was happy to convert right there and for a good rate too, so don't worry about doing so at the airport. Another point, from a front view and in dimmer lighting the very tight buzz the clinic bring the hair down to reflected that the previous work looked very natural and had no visible density issues, although from a top view seen in the clinic photos there's a noticeable difference in density between the areas with natives and those previously implanted. Noticed the same in cases like Yas and acegik who both went for 2nd procedures at ASMED, although not a huge issue unless you're planning to constantly having people looking at the top of your scalp. The donor scarring from the first procedure was also clearly visible when the scalp was buzzed to a zero, not that this is a problem or unexpected as one shouldn't go in assuming FUE is scarless or that they could get away with a buzz that tight to begin with. Just a point to note. Hair was in significant need of a cut when going in for photos, so note it also didn't look its best by any means
  25. Firstly, I am going to provide advice and share my experience at Asmed clinic for those interested because there are things I wish I knew. After this I may post some photos. I have written this carefully trying to be as objective as possible. ONLINE CONSULTATION Your journey would start here: https://www.asmed.com.tr/ You will get a reply with a suggested area drawn on your photo(s) and estimated number of required grafts (transplanted follicles) and price (€2.5 per graft if shaven). Good-quality photos are important especially if you have diffuse hair loss or hair loss on the crown because that's not easily noticeable. TRAVELLING TO ASMED IN ISTANBUL First of all, make sure what you need to travel there. I just had to pay for a visa that I got online here and that costs $20.55 (bank charged €18.21): https://www.evisa.gov.tr/en/ You can pay up to €3,000 for the FUE by bank transfer and this also confirms your appointment. You will pay the rest the day before the surgery in cash. You can take the money with you in a money belt so you just have to pay attention at the airport security control where you have to take it off. This is not ideal but it's better than looking for ATMs in Istanbul. My coordinator sent me a lot of information but you can also ask any remaining doubts, it's all new for most of us, after all. I wouldn't be afraid of asking anything. As advised by HG1, I bought a memory foam travelling pillow. I bought it at the airport for €20. Asmed will give you one that is not as comfortable. I was told that using euros in Istanbul would be easy but paying in euros there was kind of shady so it's more convenient if you change some money for Turkish liras at the airport. You can also use your credit card in some places, was very useful for having dinner at the hotel, breakfast is included with the room. Basically, you'll need some money for food and transport. We had some issues with the taxi drivers, one of them was driving a long way north and we had to head west and when we told him he got a bit violent so after that we just used the metro and tram which is probably one of the best things I've seen in Istanbul. Just beware, almost nobody speaks English in Istanbul, not even people working at the shopping centres. This is not a problem if you don't leave the hotel, though. ARRIVING IN ISTANBUL A driver from the clinic will be waiting for you. I saw him immediately but be careful because the other patient was called by a random person. That's why Asmed send you a photo of the drivers and the driver displays your name on a tablet. Don't trust any other person. THE DAY BEFORE They take you and welcome you at the clinic's entrance nicely and show you the facilities. There is a coordinator that speaks your native tongue but you'll find that everyone is there to help you if needed. The coordinator guides you through a very well-organised procedure that includes the mentioned tour, making the payment and seeing the doctor. This is my first complaint about Asmed, Dr. Koray Erdogan was extremely quick so I didn't have much time to think or react. I think that he does this when he knows exactly what to do but anyway it doesn't give the best impression. He has a great team but he is the person that made you chose the clinic in the first place and this is a very important decision even though he operates several times a day. The clinic is impressive, just mind the steps. All the girls and guys there were really nice with me and the others and I appreciate that. They are professional, respectful but also natural and friendly and I really loved that, I wish people were like that everywhere. They give you anything that you might need or want before you even ask, which feels so good. They will take professional photos of your head, then shave it and use a Kinect 2.0 camera robot to take 360º photos of the whole scalp. It only left me wishing that I could have shared more than a few minutes with Koray Erdogan. The doctor checked my hair and draw two hairlines, one of them was perfect because it was just like mine ignoring the receding hairline on the sides so obviously I chose that. He praised my temples, that might have helped him drawing the hairline, and warned me that I might need work done on the crown in the future but he firmly refused to touch that area yet and after seeing the photos of the area on his monitor I agreed. He estimated that I have around 7,900 available grafts, I was expecting more because I have a big and dense donor, so I wonder why. After the analysis what the doctor said was confirmed, thickness is 61 microns and hairs per graft number is 1.91. I have some follicles with five hairs because they appear in the photos but they didn't use any of those. Most of my follicles are double, followed by singles and triples in the same quantity. Quardruple and quintpule are present but rare. HT-FUE has very few singles and lots of doubles, triples and quardruples but his follicles are exceptional as far as I know. That means that he has special density above average. Before my hair transplant, I thought that the most important thing is how many grafts they are going to put on each centimetre of your scalp but that is a common mistake. This doctor calculates the hairs per graft average and measures thickness and then maths tell him how many graft per square centimetre you require for a natural look. Let's say that like me, they are going to use grafts with 1.9 hairs each as average and that your thickness is 61 microns. He aims at 5.4 as coverage value so he will decide that you need 48 grafts per square centimetre. Formula: 48 grafts per cm2 · 1.9 hairs per graft · 0.061 thickness equals or exceeds 5.4 coverage value. Coverage value is the fixed value, they multiply the other figures that are personal to get the grafts per cm2 figure. The number of grafts that you need would be 48 multiplied by the square centimetres of your transplanted area. For instance: 48 · 60 cm2 = 2,880 grafts. My area was a bit smaller. SURGERY DAY Koray Erdogan is the person who should do the incisions during the surgery and I asked about this because a patient told me the day before that a girl did the incisions and also a forum member asked me about this. The technicians are the ones that extract and implant but the incisions are the most important part and should be done by Koray Erdogan. Otherwise, I wouldn't even bother choosing him, why would I? He is the master here and one of the best FUE doctors in the world and he should, at the very least, do all the incisions. One of the technicians showed me a few grafts because I accepted to see them. I missed more conversation with my coordinator -my second complaint-, something I read about on the website, during the surgery because I was not able to check my phone or watch films. They gave me a tablet for watching films but I wasn't feeling good enough for that to the point that they called the anaesthetist again, who made me feel better by talking to me and administering additional drug. I felt pain until then but I think he does the right thing by only giving you as much as you need. To be honest, time went by pretty fast because I was sedated and I was in balance between painlessness and consciousness. I was surprised to hear the doctor confidently joking with the girls while doing his job, it is fine for me as long as he stays focused! They were talking in Turkish so I couldn't follow. He looks extremely self-confident and is friendly. Once the job is done, they give you food, drinks and take you to the hotel as always. THE FOLLOWING DAY They pick you up and take you to the clinic where you get your first washing. This is important and you have to pay attention because you will be doing this on your own for the next days. I was a bit worried about washing my scalp and I have had two dreams about grafts falling. In one of them the grafts were like cyborg metallic implants. In the other one the grafts had a tack on the edge. I am a creative person so I'm not surprised about this nonsense at all. The reality is that grafts are natural and carefully extracted as I've been shown and I haven't noticed any of them falling off when I wash my scalp or lying around when I wake up. Washing is actually refreshing and has become my favourite moment of the day and the lotion and shampoo that they give you are soft and comforting. After removing the bandage and washing your scalp for the first time they give you a USB pen drive with photos and a video that explains how to wash your head and everything that you may need for taking care of your scalp including shampoo and lotions, a hat, a inflatable neck pillow, an ice pack and more. SWELLING The day after the HT I flew back home and I recommend that you do the same because the day after that my head was deformed because of the swelling. My head looked normal four days after the HT except the area around the eyes that took one more day but I went outside wearing sunglasses and I felt great. I recommend you to drink a lot of water as I felt that it helped me. I only looked like a monster for two days. I used the ice pack that the clinic gave me but I got a cold because I used it too much. I recovered a few days later so nothing serious, really. I just wished I didn't use the ice pack as much, so note that. PAIN I felt an almost unbearable pain two days after the HT in the donor area, especially when lying in bed, that didn't let me sleep well. This is the healing process, I've been told. I used different painkillers but none of them seemed to work. You just have to deal with it. Melvin told me that he had pain for two weeks. One week later the pain started to decrease, fortunately, and also I started feeling a pleasant tickling in the transplanted area, I don't know for sure but it feels like a positive sign. DONOR AREA Except for the big pain, the donor area looked really good since the beginning and they told me so at the clinic. TRANSPLANTED AREA It was reddish until three days later. Most of the scabs fell off before the eight day. I expected my scalp to be much worse because of my sensitive skin. I didn't have any cracks as some people do but when the biggest scab was gently removed some hairs were removed with it. That doesn't mean that you have lost the grafts but just the hairs that were glued to the scab. No bleeding or anything suspicious so everything seems to be fine up there. TIPS AFTER HT You should contact them for any questions you might have or if you have fever or infection. I didn't have any of these problems or any other, just the pain I described above. Send them photos so they can see if everything is fine, all scabs should be gone before the twelfth day. EVALUATION AFTER HT (IN PROGRESS) My biggest complaint is connected to the second one and it is that after the HT I have noticed that communication with my coordinator is slower and more obstructed than before the HT as I am still waiting for a simple few answers regarding my FUE operation. I feel a bit bad saying this because they were all nice to me and surpassed my expectations, but I want to be totally honest and objective and will update how it goes from now on. If I am totally honest like I am being, I have to say that my coordinator looked unmotivated at moments somehow, specifically when I arrived the second day for the surgery, she was sitting relaxed in the dining room looking at her phone while I was waiting nearby. I felt alone because my new friends were already taken to the operating rooms. Also, during the long surgery session she only talked to me once when I complained about the pain. I felt that the other people cared more for me and I want to thank them a million times. My coordinator is obviously intelligent and skilful so that's why I was expecting more from her and I was disappointed. She could do much better, it's just two days that I am there after all and she didn't have any more patients to attend at the clinic, just me. When I filled in the survey they offered me I rated everything and everyone really high because that's how I feel in general and because I wasn't ready to complain about anything, but my definitive evaluation is this and I will update it depending on how contact with them goes from now on, which is crucial and more important that before the HT, in my opinion. The results will inevitably be rated by anyone if I post them and I am of course hoping for the best possible results and for emotional support during this long process that I still don't believe I am going through. Thanks to all the forum members that have replied my questions and given me advice.
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