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  1. Hello forum users, i would like to share my experience with Asmed of Istanbul. After making the first meeting with Asmed, hair transplantation was planned for the next 3 months due to high demand. I was invited to the clinic 3 days ago to count my hair follicles in the donor area and to determine and draw the planting area. I was excited. The Asmed team sincerely encouraged me for good future days. My operation was done in 2 days with a day of rest in between. So 3 days in total. Operation Period On September 16, at 7 in the morning, when I came to Asmed Clinic, everyone I saw was smiling and energetic. They heartily supported me for making the right decision. Narcosistors and nurses explained the process I will live in all details. I entered the operation room without any worries. I started laughing when I saw my own photos on the walls. I was everywhere. When you look carefully at the photos, there were numbers and signs on all of them. Everything was planned mathematically. Operation started with a superb music. 2500 root transfers were performed on the first operation day. It was peaceful to hear the voice of Doctor Koray Erdogan in the background and to talk about it occasionally. The operation took 7 hours.Everything was in line with the plan. Then I took my place in one of the beautiful rooms inside the Asmed Clinic. The attention of the nurses, the fine meals prepared in the kitchen, and the foods that suit everyone's mouth taste made me feel at home. On that day, we met guests from the 7 different countries for the same purpose. Our common language was English. Everybody shared how he met Asmed and Doctor Koray Erdoğan and how many hair root transfers were planned with live music. It was like a 3-day happiness camp for all of us. I guess that every guest has a guide in the language he speaks, which is rare in the world. I spent the night with pleasure without any pain relief and woke up to the new day. We had breakfast with other guests and got into chat. Some of them played billiards and listened to music. Then the guests who went to their rooms to rest ate dinner with live music. 3rd Day According to Dr. Koray Erdogan's plan, I prepared and entered the last operation. I returned to my room with joy as if I had won a big match after 8.5 hours. All technical information was explained in every detail before and after the operation. They said it was very successful and everything was fine. They told me to wait patiently that I would get good results after 12-18 months. After having a pleasant dinner and listening to music with other guests, I went to my room to relax. Time to leave. After the last checks, the first 10 days, 30 days and 60 days were explained with a simple table. During my stay in Asmed clinic, I had no difficulty. Already from the moment you enter the Asmed Clinic through the door, all team members manage to reduce the stress of the guests by 70% in the first minutes with their positive attitude. Within 24 hours, absolutely everyone is in good mood. More than 100 employees working in harmony, being sincere within the framework of professionalism and working completely scientific impressed me very much in Asmed Clinic. promises. Asmed Clinic said that there will be a nice change in my hair in 12-18 months, based on average data. But everyone around me began to notice the change in me at the end of the 5th month. On the 7th month, I let my hair cut for the fourth time. It’s been 10 months yet. I feel 10 years younger.
  2. Hello, Now it's finally my turn to give back to this community by sharing my story, experience and progress of my hair transplant surgery which I did with Dr. Koray Erdogan at ASMED Clinic in Istanbul 9-10th Jan 2020. Background I'm a 29 year old guy from Sweden and I started experiencing hair loss when I was around 22. I started to lose hair very slowly, it was barely noticeable but as baldness is in my family I kind of knew it would eventually turn into NW 5/6 and wanted to do something about it early. So I booked a consultation with New Hair Clinic which was the top clinic in Sweden at the time, but they suggested me to wait a few years before undergoing surgery. I didn't really feel my situation was that critical so I followed their advice and didn't do anything about it, but I did however get useful knowledge about hair loss and about finasteride, minoxidil and the lasercap even if I didn't start using any medications immediately. I was a bit skeptical to finasteride due to potential side effects but started using minoxidil 5% at age 24 and after a few months I could already see both regrowth and thicker hair, it felt really nice and all my anxiety about hair loss dropped, situation was handled. I've read about people that tried minoxidil and didn't see any results (or at least not quick enough) so they became skeptical and eventually stopped it. Well it's true that some don't see as much improvements as others, but for me it really worked and I got great results. I learnt (the hard way, I'll come to that) that the important thing is to be very patient and consistent with it, in the beginning I was using it mornings and evenings every day and held on to it during the shedding phase and that was probably key for me. Unfortunately at age 26 I got a bit overconfident about my hair and got sloppier with the daily minoxidil routine. Mainly it was due to that I had summer vacation and I was travelling a lot so I started skipping days, but then I had also got used to my hair being so full for such a long time and somehow thought that I might have stabilized it and didn't need minoxidil anymore. Which was false obviously... Within a month or so I immediately started seeing my hair fall off again and this time it was getting even thinner and on the crown too. At this time I began researching about hair transplant clinics again and did an online and phone consultation with Dr. Saifi at European Hair Transplant in Poland who I had read some good posts about in a Swedish forum. He quoted me 2200 grafts for the frontal and part of the mid-section area. He had a waiting list of 6 months, but I ended up not booking as I still didn't feel ready and hadn't got the push to actually do it. I started with minoxidil again and was able to recover a lot of hair. This time I applied it only in the evenings as it was messier to apply it in the mornings and I wanted to style my hair without it. I did however apply almost double the dose (maximum daily dose) when applied in the evening. I didn't know if it would still be helpful but I thought to try it out and it actually helped keeping it stable so I continued like that for another 2 years. Then last year at age 28 I underwent a tough period that got me to seriously consider a hair transplant. I stopped using minoxidil as I didn't prioritize it due to personal circumstances and a lot of change happening in my life (including new job & country). I was well aware that I would probably lose hair again but I accepted it and thought that if it would get really bad I'd just shave bald. It took a month or so and I panicked when I saw the hair loss and realized I actually didn't want to lose my hair, note sure what I was thinking before. So I started with minoxidil again and the shedding phase this time was horrible. My hair never fully recovered again to how it was before the shedding and that's what pushed me into actually going for a hair transplant. After having done research online and reading a lot on this forum and seeing good results I decided to contact Dr. Koray Erdogan for a consultation where he quoted me 5000 grafts for the front, mid and crown areas + recommended finasteride to stop further hair loss. I didn't take finasteride but continued with minoxidil (until 2.5 weeks prior to the surgery), and then it took me a year of consideration until I eventually booked the surgery with ASMED now in Jan 2020. The consultation I had my dad with me who is a NW6 and the first thing Dr. Koray did was to go and inspect his hair to see where I'm headed. The bad news was that my dad's hair had become thinner also on the sides and back, and he said that if I would to follow the same pattern then my donor area would not be as strong as it might seem right now. Although I was not happy to hear that I was glad that he noticed this as I will now be careful to not over-harvest my donor in case of future surgeries. He then also inspected my hair and did a calculation of my donor capacity which was estimated to 8300 grafts. He said that I had to start with finasteride as I didn't have enough donor capacity to cover my full head if I were to loose all existing hair in the future (estimated to 8700 grafts). Was not very happy to hear this either, as I had already during the online consultation expressed that I preferred not to take finasteride but that I was fine with continuing with minoxidil as I had seen good results from it. They had then said that they respected this, so I ended up having a small argument with the doctor as he tried convincing me to take it, and that if I didn't he would rather not want to do the crown area right now but use the 5000 grafts on the front and mid-section and then do the crown next time. I didn't like this option as I wanted to prioritize the front and crown as I already have some hair in the mid-section which I hope to keep for a couple of years with the use of minoxidil, and instead consider a second surgery in the future if I would need it. Anyway, as the doctor convinced me that the risk of side effects is very little and that taking it would help against shock loss and improve growth during the first year, I decided to try it out and he supplied me with Proscar for 4-5 months (1.25 mg daily). He drew a hair line which was a bit more conservative than what I had aimed for, but given that I had limited donor capacity and after seeing the pre-consultation photos that were taken by the clinic I realized that my hair loss was much worse than I had perceived it and accepted his suggestion. The pre-surgery care, clinic & surgery days As many other members have already described these parts I will not go into much detail. But what I can say is that everything from the contact with my patient coordinator Andreea, to the pickup from the airport, to the greeting at the clinic and the surgery itself was very professional. I stayed at the clinic for 5 nights and the service was exceptional. All of the staff were very nice and the food was great. Before going I was hesitant whether I should stay at the clinic or book a room at Radisson Blu hotel, but now afterwards I don't regret it at all. It was very comfortable not having to leave the facility, having breakfast, lunch and dinner just outside your room and get to meet other patients that were also staying there in the spare time. They had live music in the evenings, big screen TV, pool table and the basement had a high quality gym and basketball area. What I also appreciated was that for patients staying over the weekend, ASMED arrange a free city tour of Istanbul with a private guide where we got to visit the famous bazaar, the blue mosque and the city center. Hair situation and medication - Androgenic alopecia: NW5/6 - Finasteride: Proscar (1.25 mg) started with the procedure. - 5% minoxidil (topical): Been using it daily for 5 years (Stopped it 2.5 weeks before the surgery but will start using Minoxidil foam in a few weeks) - Daily hair-loss shampoo: Nisim NewHair Biofactors Shampoo (Normal to dry) Graft distribution - Total donor capacity: 8300 - Total transplanted grafts: 5078 - Hair thickness: 61 microns - Ratio: 2.03 hair/graft - Single: 1190 - Double: 2658 - Triple: 1103 - Quadruple: 125 - Quintuple: 2 I think I've covered most of it now and will keep uploading photos of the progress here. Feel free to ask me anything if you have any questions. /KM90
  3. I am currently approaching 3 months after FUE with 4264 Grafts. I was not originally planning on making a post but decided I should as I have Fine hair (47 Mircrons) and was concerned going in that my donor hair would't be acceptable and did not see many fine hair cases and this board was instrumental in me deciding on Dr. Koray. I will not get into the details of travel and hospitality except to say everything you read about the level of service is absolutely correct. Everyone from the drivers to nurses are very kind and attentive. I was flying from the US so wanted to make sure I had the money required with me. I was going to exchange USD to Euro but was told the exchange rate would be good and they accept USD. Anyone traveling from USA should bring USD and pay in USD. The exchange rate they used was simply googling the current exchange rate and rounding down. There was no commission charged. If I had converted at my bank in USA they would have charged close to 5%. I was originally quoted 5000 grafts but after my consultation, Dr Koray recommended 4200 with 4000 in the front and 200 in the back. He originally thought I would get about 1.8 hairs per graft average. In the end, I received 4262 grafts and they used 400 in the back instead of 200 as my average hair per graft ended up being 2.04. (I was only charged for 4200) I will attach some pictured of various stages including more pictures as hair hopefully comes in. If anyone has any specific questions related to travel from USA let me know and appreciate any comments on my progress. As I stated above the quality of care is extremely high even more so than even USA standards. The only complaint I had would be the communication post opp was not great. I think one issue I had was my coordinator, Buqet (I thought Buqet was amazing) left to return to school almost immediately after I had my procedure so I was dealing with someone else who was taking over for her. I was very concerned with the scabs and getting them off and there were several days where I didn't receive communications when I could have used advise so If someone from Asmed is reading this post I would recommend having someone who is solely responsible for post opp care and questions.
  4. Hi guys, here is a little bit of my journey with Dr. Erdogan on 28th-29th January: Two weeks before my HT I had a surgery on my shoulder and for this reason a friend of mine, who is a German surgeon-doctor (ears, nose and throat), flew with me to Istanbul to help me. We arrived in Istanbul at 11:30 and the driver was already there waiting for us. He was very friendly but he couldn't speak English. He put me on the phone with Seda, Dr. Erdogan's assistant, who told me what we were about to do. He drove us for approximately 90 min. to the clinic in a very comfortable van for my consultation with Dr. Erdogan. The new clinic is quite impressive. We were welcomed by one of the receptionists who spoke fluent English and instructed us to step on a machine in order to seal our shoes for hygienic reasons before coming in. She informed us we had to wait about 60 min. since Dr. Erdogan was still in surgery. Meanwhile my preop pictures were taken. The foto room is one level below on the same level as the cafeteria and the “ hair salon” where we shave our heads before surgery and do the washing the day after. Being back to the waiting area they offered us some tea and coffee. We have waited for a few minutes until Dr. Erdogan arrived. He warm welcomed us and I asked him to show me the whole clinic which he happily agreed to do. During our "tour", he showed me the two very comfortable suites, where patients can stay during the procedures (where me and my friend stayed over the 2 nights we were in Istanbul for my procedure), the meeting room where Dr. Erdogan discusses everyday the cases with his team, the entertainment room and finally the surgery floor with 4 surgery rooms, 2 floors below the reception. I was very impressed with the whole clinic, but I must say the surgery rooms impressed me the most. Not only me but also my friend, who runs his own clinic in Germany. The whole area is state of the art concerning air conditioning with HEPA filters, equipment to check the humidity in each surgery room, sterilisation equipment and hygiene procedures. In order to preserve the grafts better Dr. Erdogan developed a cooling table, which realy impressed my friend. He was also very impressed with the quality of the equipments and the monitoring equipment. Each surgery room has a camera, which allows Dr. Erdogan to follow each surgery from his office and/or from every of the theaters. After the tour I went to his office to calculate the area to be covered, donor area, number or grafts and to discuss and design my hairline, which took about 1:30 hour. I didn't have anything in mind and I was very happy with the hairline suggested by Dr. Erdogan. He explained to me every detail and reason for the suggested hairline. After a good night sleep I was ready for my surgery beginning at 8 o'clock. First day (January 28th): 7:30 - Breakfast at the clinic. 8:00 - I shaved my head. 8:15 - Dr. Erdogan and his team designed my hairline, then electrocardiogram and blood sugar check. 9:45 - We started the procedure with local anesthesia (Delek applied 9cc in total), which was a bit uncomfortable in the beginning. Right after that Delek starts the extractions (2002 grafts). I was really surprised how fast and confident she is. During the extractions I had Mustafa helping Delek holding my head during the whole procedure. Another two technicians were responsible for preparing and counting the grafts. 12:30 - Lunch break. I ate a delicious Turkish meal. 13:00 - Incisions: Delek applied 11cc in total in the recipient area, which was also uncomfortable in the beginning. After that Dr. Erdogan prepared the recipient area doing all the incisions by himself. 14:05 - Implantation: I had no pain, but in my experience it was the most uncomfortable part of the day. 17:30 - Finally we were done, after Dr. Erdogan made a final check. I got then a bandage on my donor area. I received a cool pack for my eyes, a neck pillow to prevent damages on my recipient area and pain medication. I was feeling very well, had dinner in the clinic and took one pain pill before going to sleep. I slept the whole night. On the first day I had the chance to meet some of the patients who were going through their procedures. They were two Italian guys who were on their second day. I also met a Swiss guy who was there for a control consultation. This guy was having his third procedure with Dr. Erdogan. Second day (January 29th) - For me the second day was even easier than the first day. Maybe because I knew what to expect. Dr. Erdogan told me it varies from patient to patient. 7:30 - Breakfast at the clinic. 8:00 - Hair saloon to shave my hair again and washing my head. 9:00 - Same procedure as on the first day. Anesthesia (12cc in total) and extractions done by Delek (2000 grafts). 11:15 - Anesthesia (10cc in total) on my recipient area (applied by Mustafa) and Dr. Erdogan came to make all the incisions by himself. 12:45 - Lunch break to eat another delicious Turkish meal! 13:15 - PRP and Implantation made by Delek and Mustafa. 17:30 - End of the day. Dr. Erdogan made a final check. I got then a bandage on my donor area. I received pain medication and antibiotics. I was feeling very well, had dinner again in the clinic and took one pain pill before going to sleep. I slept the whole night. On the second day I had the chance to meet other patients who were going through their procedures. One Swedish guy in one Albanian guy. I also met a Turkish patient who is also a member of this forum, Spar. He's a very friendly guy and he was having his procedure on the next two days. Third and final day (January 30th): 8:30 - First washing. Dr. Erdogan was very happy with the surgery. 9:00 - Breakfast at the clinic. 10:00 - I met the new members of the team, specially those who will be responsible for the English speaker patients. Dr. Erdogan has an impressive structure. The members of his team are divided by language expertise. They are usually native speakers to make the whole process easier. 13:00 - I had lunch with Dr. Erdogan. We talked a lot about this forum. He told me some of his plans for the future and I must say I was really impressed! I will let you know on the right time! 15:00 - The same driver (the clinic has two) drove us to the airport. We've reached the airport about 16:45. Our flight was at 19:45 so we had time for shopping and having a coffee at the airport. For the records: During the whole two days procedure I had a translator with me. On the first day was a French translator (very cute girl!) and on the second day an Italian translator (very friendly guy). They are there mostly to entertain you during the procedure, change the dvds we watch during the procedure and for sure, help you with the language, if necessary, since Dr. Erdogan and Delek speak very good English (Dr. Erdogan speaks fluently and better than Delek) and to check if you are okay or if you have any pain. Once they notice you are in discomfort, they ask the team to stop and apply more anesthesia. I knew Dr. Erdogan already but seeing him working on these two days impressed me a lot. He has a lot to do but he still finds time to be friendly and attentive with all his patients. He is extremely perfectionist which is important in this kind of work. I must say I had an incredible experience at the clinic. Since the beginning I felt like home. It was too long 2 days but easy to handle. Summary of my two days procedure: Total procedure time: Approximately 15h and 15min. Total number of grafts: 4002 grafts. Single: 368 Double: 1.213 Triple: 1.541 Multiple: 880 Average hair per grafts: 2.76 Total anesthesia in the donor area: 21cc. Total anesthesia in the recipient area: 21cc. Once again I would like to thank this forum to clarify many of my questions and for helping me to find Dr. Erdogan! So guys feel free to ask me any questions. It will be great to have you onboard! I will keep you updated!
  5. Hello forum users, i would like to share my experience with Asmed of Istanbul. After making the first meeting with Asmed, hair transplantation was planned for the next 3 months due to high demand. I was invited to the clinic 3 days ago to count my hair follicles in the donor area and to determine and draw the planting area. I was excited. The Asmed team sincerely encouraged me for good future days. Operation Period On September 16, at 7 in the morning, when I came to Asmed Clinic, everyone I saw was smiling and energetic. They heartily supported me for making the right decision. Narcosistors and nurses explained the process I will live in all details. I entered the operation room without any worries. I started laughing when I saw my own photos on the walls. I was everywhere. When you look carefully at the photos, there were numbers and signs on all of them. Everything was planned mathematically. Operation started with a superb music. 2500 root transfers were performed on the first operation day. It was peaceful to hear the voice of Doctor Koray Erdogan in the background and to talk about it occasionally. The operation took 7 hours.Everything was in line with the plan. Then I took my place in one of the beautiful rooms inside the Asmed Clinic. The attention of the nurses, the fine meals prepared in the kitchen, and the foods that suit everyone's mouth taste made me feel at home. On that day, we met guests from the 7 different countries for the same purpose. Our common language was English. Everybody shared how he met Asmed and Doctor Koray Erdoğan and how many hair root transfers were planned with live music. It was like a 3-day happiness camp for all of us. I guess that every guest has a guide in the language he speaks, which is rare in the world. I spent the night with pleasure without any pain relief and woke up to the new day. We had breakfast with other guests and got into chat. Some of them played billiards and listened to music. Then the guests who went to their rooms to rest ate dinner with live music. 3rd Day According to Dr. Koray Erdogan's plan, I prepared and entered the last operation. I returned to my room with joy as if I had won a big match after 8.5 hours. All technical information was explained in every detail before and after the operation. They said it was very successful and everything was fine. They told me to wait patiently that I would get good results after 12-18 months. After having a pleasant dinner and listening to music with other guests, I went to my room to relax. Time to leave. After the last checks, the first 10 days, 30 days and 60 days were explained with a simple table. During my stay in Asmed clinic, I had no difficulty. Already from the moment you enter the Asmed Clinic through the door, all team members manage to reduce the stress of the guests by 70% in the first minutes with their positive attitude. Within 24 hours, absolutely everyone is in good mood. More than 100 employees working in harmony, being sincere within the framework of professionalism and working completely scientific impressed me very much in Asmed Clinic. promises. Asmed Clinic said that there will be a nice change in my hair in 12-18 months, based on average data. But everyone around me began to notice the change in me at the end of the 5th month. On the 7th month, I let my hair cut for the fourth time. It’s been 10 months yet. I feel 10 years younger.
  6. Can anybody explain why does Asmed usually need a significantly higher number of grafts than other clinics to achieve their results?
  7. I arrived to Istanbul on 15th of January 2017 before midnight, after previous online consultation, booking an appointment and paying deposit. I choosed Asmed and Dr. Erdogan for theses reasons: 1. In that time Asmed almost hadn´t bad results on HT forums, 2. on their website they wrote, that they have interpreter from my native language (it wasn´t true), 3. I had good flight conection to Istanbul. After arrival the driver of Asmed clinic wait for me and my patient coordinator Sevinc called me to say welcome in Istanbul and to give me informations about my stay. On the second day, 16th of January 2017, in the afternoon I had an appoitment in Asmed clinic, where I filled the questionary and met Dr. Erdogan. He spoke with me for a while and draw me the hairline. I told him my expectations. Than they made pictures of me and my hair condition and cut my hair for 2 mm. Dr. Erdogan check my donor and said that I need 4500 grafts for hairline and vertex. Previous number of grafts after online consultation was 4000 – 4200 grafts. After that I payed rest of ammount (tottaly 11.250,- Eur for HT). Than Dr. Erdogan came and draw new hairline, but I didn't agree with it. He said that this hairline perfect suits me and asked the staff if he is right. Of course that nobody said that it is not true. Maybe it was my fault but I didn't know that this is final hairline for surgery and I expected that before surgery he draw me new hairline. I found out it next day, but it couldn't be changed (hairline is much worse as he drawed). I had my HT surgery on 17th and 18th of January 2017. Dr. Erdogan made just incisions and the rest (hair harvesting and implantation) were made by stuff. One of them told me that my grafts are perfect quality and my result will be great. After finishing my HT I look to the mirror and I saw that my hairline is wrong and unnaturall. Dr. Erdogan saw that I was not satisfied with my hairline and told that it is due the swelling and when hair start growing it will be fine. On 19th of January 2017 Dr. Erdogan checked the result and I came home. I started to use finasteride 1mg daily from the surgery. I sent my pictures to Asmed after one month, after 3 months and after 6 months from the surgery and they always wrote me back that everything is ok. After 11 months I saw that my transplanted area is still lack and result is bad, therefor I wrote to the Asmed and sent them pictures. They (Sevinc) wrote me that it is normal and everybody has different hair growth and I have to wait to the end of 18 month from HT and if my transplanted area will be still lack I have to write them and they offer me a solution. After 18 months my transplanted area was still lack and there were no improvement, therefor I wrote to Asmed another mail with pictures and asked them why my result is so weak and where the mistake happened. I was very suprised when they asked me to fill new questionary and to send them another pictures. My surprise was much bigger when they wrote me that I need another HT with 2500 grafts, which will be cost 6.250,- Euros. I have been in Istanbul again in August 2018 and I wrote to Asmed and asked them to arrange an apointment with Dr. Erdogan. They wrote me back that Dr. Erdogan is busy due the moving of clinic and he has no time to meet me. After time I published few pictures of my result on this forum with asking for opinion and I was contacted from Asmed for informations who am I and when I had HT in their clinic. I send them answears and they asked me for pictures of current condition of my hair, which I sent them, but I didn't get response. After 3 weeks I wrote them that I didn't get any response and they wrote me that they sent me response on my email adress but I didn't get it. After few days they wrote me that Dr. Erdogan checked my pictures and my result is normal and it was caused due stopped using finasteride (I have using Propecia for 18 months from the surgery). I wrote them that it can't be true, because my original hair are fine and my transplanted area are lack. Also the condition of my hair was same after 11 and after 18 months when I took Propecia, and now when I don't take Propecia. If it will be true, than my transplanted area will be fine and original hair will be lack. I wrote it them and they asked me for another set of pictures which Dr. Erdogan will check again and tell me the best solution. Therefor I sent them another set of pictures with current condition of my hair, but they didn't response for a month. I wrote them that I didn't get response and they wrote me that they sent me response on my email adress but I didn't get it. Another day they wrote me that hair behind the frontline started shedding when I stopped finasteride. Therefore it does not support the frontal part and this is why it looks as it does. I sent them once again set of my pictures and wrote them that I was on finasteride from my surgery to the end of 18 month since surgery and asked them, if bad result of HT in 11 month since surgery and in 17 and 18 month since surgery, where the same weak result was visible is caused by discontinuation of using finasteride after 18 months and asked them where is area of shaded hair after discontinuation of finasteride, which they mentioned. They wrote me back on 13th February 2020, that they will have a meeting with Dr. Erdogan to my case next day (14th February) and they let me know. Because I didn´t get any response I wrote them on 6th March what is happened. They wrote me back, that they had meeting, but Dr. Erdogan had to go to Mexico for the FUE workshop and they didn´t write the report and they think that I need another HT with 2500 grafts (the didn´t mentioned if free HT). I wrote them back that I still don´t know what is the reason of my terrible result of HT. They wrote me back that no using of finasteride is one of the reason and the exact reason is possible to say after analysis in live. On 8th March 2020 Melvin Moderator contacted me and he asked me for informations about my HT and than he wrote to Asmed. On 12th of March Asmed contacted me that Dr. Erdogan will analyze my photos once again and they let me know. Today is 11th April and nothing has change. Nobody from Asmed contacted me for another month. After 3 years and 4 months since my HT I still don´t know what is the reason of my terrible HT result. But I know that the reason is not discontinuation of using finasteride after 18 months since surgery, because the result in 11 month since surgery, 17 and 18 month since surgery and also now is the same. I don´t know if I should wait for some response from Asmed, but I don´t believe for something serious from them because I see that they try to delegate resposibility to my person and dicontinuation of finasteride after 18 months since surgery. And this is NOT the reason! I understood that they didn't want to help me to fix my weak result, but the purpose why they contacted me was to stop me to write negative things about Asmed clinic. From my HT I checked a lot of web sites and forums with this problematic and I saw a lot of results of another surgeons and clinic (in many cases "no name" surgeons and clinics) on theses forums and also on their web sites, where I saw a lot of similar hair loss cases like mine which are great and were solved with less numbers of grafts and I understood that I that I made a big mistake, when I decided to go to Asmed. Density of my frontal area is lack, shape of my hairline is unnatural with gap on one side and total result of my HT is weak and bad. One thing is the result. But another thing is attitude of clinic to their result. And the attitude of Asmed to my result is unethical and unprofessional. I usually do good decisions in my life and just a few of my decisions I consider as bad. But decision about going to Asmed and Dr. Erdogan for hair transplant I consider the worst in my life...
  8. This is a brief summary of my experience dealing with Dr. Koray Erdogan. If you have any more questions, go to his website and contact them or comment on my post. I will try my best to answer. I will also post up monthly so you can see my results. BACKGROUND Hello, my name is Michael and I have been fighting hair loss ever since I was 15 years old! I do not remember much of high school but there is one day that I would never forget. So, there was this girl who I had a big crush on… I remember I was showing her my high school ID’s throughout the years one day during lunch. I remember her clearly comparing my freshmen, sophomore and junior ID’s and she said to me that my hairline had receded a lot over the years! I was devastated and remembered being depressed and unmotivated, always thinking about my hair. I instantly was self-conscious to the point where I didn’t want to participate in any activities due to my balding head at the ripe age of 15-16 (hair loss is a bitch, I know). That was the beginning of my hair loss journey. Anyways fast forward 10 years, I decided what better time to get a hair transplant in the middle of a pandemic when most places are going to be closed for quite some time. I decided to pull the trigger and get this done! I have been using finasteride together with dutasteride for 3 years now. I have no sides at all. I have also been using minoxidil for 6 years as well. How I choose ASMED? What people must understand is that a hair transplant is a freaking SURGEY! If you do not do your due diligence when it comes to finding reputable clinics, then you my friend are in deep shit. With that being said, I decided to take my time and analyze various clinics around the world. Now my budget was around $8000 usd, which eliminated nearly all the clinics in the united states, which wasn’t really an issue since I had discovered other clinics not located in the states to have the same if not better results that the ones in America. After months and months of research I decided to go with Dr. Koray, and I am so glad I did so. I have to admit that I utilized Joe Tilman and Spencer Kobrens, Bald talk truth videos immensely during my search of doctors. I only considered doctors that were IAHRS certified, I know that some of you may not agree with my reasonings, but I felt confident in my decision. Dr. Koray/ASMED, which had many great reviews and I had a gut feeling that they were the clinic for me. Flight: I booked a nonstop flight from LAX to IST which cost me around $800 USD one way. It was a long ass flight but something I had to do. I booked via Turkish airlines. Coming back home was a different story, Turkish airlines cancelled my return flight 3 times! So instead of going directly home from Istanbul, I had to get a connecting flight to Germany, then to LAX. The cost of the return flight was around $750 USD. Arrival: When I arrived in Istanbul, I was immediately greeted by one of the ASMED drivers. This was a huge relief because I was jet lagged after a 14-hour trip. That last thing I wanted to do was to look for my driver in a foreign country all by myself. The drive was around 40 min to ASMED Clinic. The driver was a young man who was very nice, professional and accommodating. Cool Guy! COVID Precautions: The moment that I landed in Istanbul; the driver drove me to the clinic for a blood test that test for Covid 2019. The clinic will not operate on a patient that is displaying Covid 2019 symptoms. In order to even get in the clinic, one must pass through these doors that launch disinfecting spray all over your body. Then they test your temperature to see if you have a fever and make you change your mask for a new one and make you put new gloves on. I was very pleased by how serious they took these preventative measures. I have my bachelor’s in public health, and I know first-hand that there is no way you can eliminate Covid 2019 transmission 100% completely, but you can decrease your chances of contraction. ASMED went above and beyond in this aspect, making me feel very safe. Hotel Accommodations: The Radisson Blu- a hotel that is located near Asmed Clinic. It is walking distance & priced at 75- 90euros a night for 5 nights, I believe. Asmed Clinic- You can opt to stay at Asmed, as they have their own rooms. I believe the max number of nights you can stay here is 2 – 3 nights for around 50euros a night. Surrounding Hotels- You can find accommodations a few minutes away from the clinic for lower prices. There are numerous hotels you can stay at such as (Asia City Hotel, A11 hotel etc.) I decided to stay at Asia City Hotel for around 30 euros per night. It wasn’t a 5-star hotel but at least the rooms were clean, free breakfast, working A/C, hot water etc. TV didn’t work though but as long as you have your phone, you should be fine. How long did I stay? I decided to stay a total of 12 days! I know it was a long time BUT I did this because of the sole fact that I did not want to jeopardize messing up any grafts. Call me extra, but I took the aftercare very seriously. I decided it was best to stay in a cool, clean, relaxing environment to let me heal as the first couple of days post op was brutal. I did stay at Asmed clinic for 3 nights. ASMED rooms were very state of the art, clean, quiet, and everyone who worked there was amazing. They were all very helpful and answered every and any questions I had about the procedure. You will not regret staying at Asmed. Suzana Suzana is one of the English coordinators who literally helped me step by step. She is the best, she was so kind, professional and had a deep passion for what she does. She doesn’t rush you or make you feel like you are a nuisance, which made me feel at home. Her English was advanced and all of the instructions that she gave me were clear and easy to comprehend. She is able to be reached in her WhatsApp, which is the primary method of how she will be in contact with you. I really mean it, that she is amazing and Dr. Koray did an awesome job of hiring her as one of his staff. If I had to come back to ASMED, I will definitely request that she be my coordinator, no doubt! Pre-Op Pre surgery was straight forward. I went in for a couple of pictures, blood test, ecg test, consultation with Dr. Koray, drew the new hairline etc. Pretty straight forward, easy. The total time it took was a couple of hours the day before the surgery. Day of the Surgery Surgery Day! The surgery is split into 3 parts. Extraction, incision and graft placement. The doctor does not do the whole surgery himself and I understood that. His techs will extract the grafts from the donor area. Regarding the incisions, you have the option of choosing Dr. Koray to conduct the incisions OR you can choose to pick Dr. Alp Bayramoglu and head surgical assistant to do the incisions at a cheaper price. If you choose to have Dr. Koray do the incisions, the cost is more. You will have to make that decision for yourself. As for myself, I decided to go with Dr. Koray to do the incisions during my hair transplant surgery. The surgery took around 8 hours from start to finish. I had 3222 FUE Graft procedure done. Post Op The first couple of days are the hardest. Your head will swell up like a bowling ball, and you feel fatigued and restless since you cannot sleep like you normally do. Tip bring your own neck pillow as the one that the clinic gives you is plastic and hard to sleep with. The staff at Asmed will wash your head and teach you how to care for your hair. They will provide you with a lotion and shampoo that they advise you to use for the first 10 – 12 days. Overall: I am more than happy that I decided to go with Asmed. They are a very professional clinic that truly care for their patients. From the moment that I filled out the online consultation to the day that I left back to LA, THEY (SUZANA ESPECIALLY) WERE WITH ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY! Covid has scared many of us but I can assure you that Asmed is doing their best to filter out covid at their clinic. I have nothing but positive things to say about Asmed. Now, are there people out there who are not found of their results, yes but there is no clinic that has 100% approval ratings. You cannot show me one clinic in ANY field that has 100% approval from all of their clients. With that being said, some people have expectations that are not realistic. Dr. Koray is a true artist when it comes to hair transplant, but he is not god. Trust me, I have absolutely no regret about going to Asmed, say what you want about their clinic, but I personally had an amazing experience dealing with them. It has only been 15 days since the surgery, but you cannot even tell that I had the procedure done. I am so happy that if I had to keep my hair at buzz cut level, I would be more than satisfied.
  9. Incredible how much the additional 1200 grafts improved your result - you should be delighted and fair play to ASMED for offering this touch up procedure. Hair loss is definitely a thing of the past for you now so go and enjoy, no need to linger around these forums lol
  10. About Me Residence: Adelaide, Australia Age: 24 Norwood 2-3 Donor Capacity: 9800 grafts Donor Micron: 55 Donor FU/CM2: 99 Grafts used this surgery: 2867 Ratio: 2.19 hair/graft Temporal: 403 grafts @ 2.04 hair/graft Parietal: 1583 grafts @ 2.19 hair/graft Occipital 881 grafts @ 2.28 hair/graft Singles: 536 Doubles: 1359 Triples: 854 Quadruples: 114 Quintuple: 4 Sextuple: 0 Introduction Hi everyone, After noticing my hairline had recessed at the age of 19/20 to around a norwood 2 - 3 diffusing pattern i decided to do something about it. Long story short, at the age of 20, I ended up being coerced into a 1000 graft FUT surgery in 2015 to 'fix' this issue at a local clinic in my home city of Adelaide, South Australia. Instead of the amazing results I was promised, all that i had received was a pretty traumatic couple of days of surgery, an emptier bank account, a very sparse, poor excuse for a 'result' and a huge fut scar on the back of my head. It has since been 5 years and after dealing with trying to hide the unnaturalness of the transplant result as well as leaving my hair long constantly to hide a massive fut scar that i was promised would be an 'unnoticeable pencil line'. I bit the bullet and had the fut scar revised wit a plastic surgeon in march 2019 and booked an fue surgery with ASMED clinic in Istanbul for February 2020. Arrival Day 02/02/2020 After a 22 hour flight from Adelaide, Australia I arrived at the new Istanbul Airport, grabbed my bags and after a phone call from my patient coordinator Seda and a little confusion to navigate my way out of the airport I met with my driver Furkan. The van was very nice, spacious, comfortable with snacks and bottles of water and also wifi which was a nice touch. The drive was around 40 minutes on the highway, Furkan was full of knowledge about Istanbul and he even stopped halfway and got me something to eat and drink which was really nice. We arrived to the clinic (it was a sunday so relatively quiet) and i was taken up to my room. This is when you'll realize just how amazing the clinic is. Everything is so clean and well designed and everyone that works there is so nice. Once I arrived into my room i was messaged by Seda and told that there was no dinner made on sundays and that she will order me take out. After receiving pizza and a coke to my door I showered and was ready for bed for my consultation day. The rooms are very nice, equipped with your own ensuite, fridge, safe, tv and hospital bed. Consultation At 9:30am my coordinator, Seda knocked on my door ready to take me to my consultation. I first had my photos taken with dry hair, then a round with wet hair. then i was taken to another room where I had my bloodwork done and heart checked. We then went to Dr Korays office to meet and design my new hairline. I was actually really nervous to meet with the doctor but he is so welcoming and loved a good bit of banter which definitely settled me and made me feel relaxed. After measuring donor capacity, hair quality and micron of the hair it was time for the hairline design. Designing the new hairline was actually something I really enjoyed. Dr Koray first drew what he believed best suited me and then asked for my input. I was happy with his first design but wanted the left slightly lower to match the right and be more symmetrical so he was happy to address this and then we were finished with the design. I also asked about reinforcing my crown (he didn't believe this was necessary), reinforcing my temple peaks (which he agreed was a good idea for the future) and placing grafts into my fut scar (we discussed and settled on SMP) 2800 grafts was decided (2500 initially in the email consult) which i was happy with. After the design I was taken the to hair shaving room, this was very daunting for me because i had never shaved my head but felt relaxed as soon as i sat down. Once my head was shaved I was shocked purely because I actually didn't mind how I looked with a shaved head. After the shave I was taken in for more photos where Dr Koray drew the final design and made sure it looked perfect and then the final before photos were taken. After this i was then taken to the KE-Bot room which was really cool. I sat in a chair in front of a screen and a robot then scanned my head counting on the screen my singles, doubles, triples and so on. This takes about 10 minutes and once this was finished I was taken back to the shaving room where Dr Korays head Dr sectioned off the back of my donor zone and divided it evenly so each area is harvested according to how dense that area is etc. While this was happening, Dr Umud, the anaesthetist came in and discussed allergies to medication etc. Once this was complete, my head was washed, i was taken to the finance department to pay the remainder of the surgery and then the consultation day was complete. I returned to my room to a surgical gown and pants hanging up and a pair of crocs to wear for my surgery. Surgery Day I was told to have a light breakfast and meet Seda at 7:20 in the common room outside the bedrooms. I was super nervous for my surgery and was given a xanax to take before hand, this helped calm me down a lot. I was taken to the hair shaving room where they shaved my hair again and washed my head thoroughly, after this i was taken to the surgery room. I sat up on a surgical bed and had my drip and pain killers placed then sat my head in the KE-Rest (which is awesome I don't know how I would've sat for that long without it), had my local anaesthetic and it was time for the extraction process. For something I was so scared about, it was actually really calming. i sat there with a blanket in front of a tv which live reads each graft removed and tells you how many singles, doubles, etc are being extracted. I slept through most of the extractions but when awake the feeling was somewhat like someone pressing lightly on the back of your head with their finger. Nothing painful like I was worried about. All that i can recommend is as soon as you start feeling anything let them know and they will give you more local. If this is left too long the local hurts so much and is honestly the worst pain you feel through the entire process. After the extractions were complete, the back of my head was bandaged and it was lunch time. Lunch was awesome, meatballs and potatoes with rice, bread a salad and water. After lunch, Dr Koray came in and made the incisions, this process went relatively quick and as soon as he was done he wished me goodluck and his team started the placement of the grafts. the placement is the longest process but was still a pleasurable experience. Once this is complete, Dr Korays head Dr comes in and double checks (if there's any gaps she will extract, make the incision and fill the gap with grafts) then Dr Koray has a look to make sure everything looks good. I was taken to the SMP room where i had SMP performed on my FUT scar then taken for my post operative photos and then I was talked through how often to use the atp spray and ice pack and that was the end of my surgery day. Day After Surgery The day after surgery I was taken to the washroom where I had my wash and then given all my post op care. Once this was complete my driver came and got me from my room and took me to the airport for the long 22 hour flight home. Before Photos Wet Hair Shaved With Hairline After My Tips 1. Get to know other patients It was really refreshing talking to other guys that are going through the exact same thing as you. In my case there was a guy visiting for his third time and bouncing questions off of him really helped the rest of us more comfortable and not as worried about the whole process. I would also urge everyone to keep in contact through whatsapp because it is nice to bounce progress and swelling shots off of each other as well as discuss washing techniques etc. 2. Ask as many questions as possible Nothing is a stupid question. It's pretty daunting going to a different country for a surgery and I found that everyone there is more than happy to help. 3. Stay over there as long as you can I left the day after surgery and found that the swelling has increased a lot further than others that had much shorter flights. If you can stay for a week or so until the swelling goes away also if you can visit the clinic for washes, you'll find the whole recovery much easier. Looking forward to seeing my results and what you think. Will post pictures as I hit each milestone! Thanks, NY
  11. Hi, 2 years after my surgery, I would like to share my experience with Asmed Clinic. Surgery was done Feb 2018. First, I would like to say that the clinic is very clean, and you can feel the experience the moment you step the front door. Secondly, I don't take any medications for my hair. I tried Finasteride for two weeks after surgery, and I had some side effects so I stopped. I also calculated the cost and the idea of taking meds all of my life. I figured out that it's better to do another surgery in the future if needed. I can just say it's one of the best decisions I made in my life. I would like to thank Suzana who was in touch pre, during, and post surgery with me, and of course to Dr. Erdogan and stuff for making my life better. Hair Thickness 60 Micron Hair per Graft 2.12 Total donor capacity 7900 graft Dry hair, few months before surgery: Wet hair during preparations: Day 1 after surgery: Day 13: 1 Month: 2 Months: 3 Months: 4 Months: 5 Months: 10 Months: 24 Months: Almost 30 Months post surgery, a few days ago:
  12. Thank you very much for your comment. I was at Asmed in January 2017. This is link on my whole story: Asmed and "Dr." Erdogan fuc.ed up my HT, my hairline is unnatural, strange and ridiculous and my density is very lack. Also they refuse any responsibility for this hair transplant. I am just curious why they usually need much more grafts than other clinics to achieve their results. But you are right. Surgery is performed by technicians, doctors just do the incisions part. Maybe therefore they need more grafts. In present, when donor area is more valuable than money, taking into account their attitude to their clients, when Asmed refuse responsibility for anything, I am surprise that still have some clients...
  13. Hello, I had a HT in Asmed in the end of October, I used this forum for gathering information and making my decision so I'll post my progress here. My stay in the clinic was very pleasant. There are already a number of very detailed posts here about the procedure at Asmed, mine wasn't too different so I won't go into detail about that. It's true that you only get to interact with Erdogan for about 20 minutes and the technicians are young women. Also, everyone at the clinic seemed very busy. I only care about results so I won't make judgements based on that, maybe they've managed to systemise the process enough so he doesn't need that much time to evaluate the patient. My details: Eastern european, 26 years old. My hairline started receding when I was 16 and at 21 my hair started thinning aggressively. Total donor capacity estimated by Erdogan was 8000 grafts. My HT involved 5033 grafts. Hair thickness: 56 microns; Hair/graft: 2.34 Single: 587 Double: 2380 Triple: 1834 Quadruple: 223 Quintpule : 8 Sextuple: 1 The bad news - some of the extracted grafts with 3 or more hairs already had 1-2 hairs which are dying. Day 1 after the transplant: Anesthetic was still leaking out of my donor area. I had the most insane swelling, my head turned into a balloon and I looked like a total freak show. Day 2-3: Swelling reduced significantly, by day 4 it was gone. Day 5: 80% of the scabs fell off. The rest fell off gradually over the next week. Day 10: I don't remember clearly, but I think it was around here when my donor area stopped being super sensitive. Week 2: The redness in the scalp was mostly gone Month 1: After I hit that mark my hair started shedding a lot Month 2: The hair in the transplated area is thin, however the hair in my donor area still feels very dense. One thing worth mentioning - even just a few days after the HT, there were absolutely no signs in my donor area that I've had HT. That was a pleasant surprise as I expected at least some visible scarring when my hair is super short. Medication: Oral minoxidil, Saw palmetto and Biotin. They gave me one year worth of finasteride. I started taking 1mg a day but from the second day I started feeling very uncomfortable testicular pain, which freaked me out so I stopped it after a week. I was rather hesitant to try this drug to start with, so it might have been a placebo effect, but even just stressing over the potential sides is not worth it for me. Without finasteride I'll most certainly lose a lot more hair on the crown in the next years. If this HT is successful I won't be too worried about that as I'm happy to keep my hair very short and I have very dense beard and body hair in case I run out of hair in the donor area. I will upload photos later.
  14. I would like to share my recent HT experience at Asmed as this forum played a deciding factor in helping me discover and choose Dr Erdogan, so believe it’s fair to try and give something back based on my own experiences. I’m 31 from the UK and have thought about getting a HT for around 6 years. My hairline started receding from my early 20’s and from around 28/29 I noticed my hair on top was very much starting to thin so knew the time to do something about it was approaching faster then I had anticipated. I actually had 3 consultations in the UK over the space of a couple of years in my late 20’s but when I turned 31 and realised my hair on top was deteriorating quiet rapidly, I realised it was time to do something about it and also be open to having surgery abroad. I contacted a few clinics in Turkey, Cyprus and Belgium and all gave me a very similar graft number quotation. I decided to go with Dr Erdogan at Asmed and though he was one of my most expensive options I just felt I had the best chance of achieving the best results at his clinic. So I booked up and arrived in Turkey the 27th of Feb, the day before my consultation. From the moment I arrived at Istanbul airport and was picked up by my driver the whole experience has been amazing and actually exceeded my expectations. I opted to stay at the clinic itself and it’s very modern, clean and you can tell no expense has been spared as it’s a fabulous building. I had my consultation with Dr Erdogan on the 28th of Feb and on closer inspection my hair needed a lot more work from what he had seen in the 12 photos I had sent. My original estimate of between 2,500-3,000 grafts (which all clinics quoted) turned into 4,000. To be fair once my hair was analysed I had a feeling my hair loss may appear worse then the actual 12 photos of it dry and wet. The Doctor drew a hairline for 4,000 grafts but actually said he would like to use 5,000 grafts to bring my hairline even lower and to add some side temples too. With both lines drawn on my head there was no comparison so I made a phone call back home and luckily arranged to have more money transferred as the cash I brought didn’t cover 5,000 grafts. It also meant having my original procedure start on Friday the 1st of March but I would need a second day on the Monday 4th to finish the procedure. They let met stay at the clinic for the extra days needed for free and my co-ordinator re-arranged my flight back home for me too. I have just arrived back from Turkey and I couldn’t be happier with how everything has worked out. Everyone who works at the clinic are amazing, caring and genuinely do care for your needs. The staff are so friendly and have made my experience much more enjoyable then what I thought it might be. I’m actually going to really miss all the staff, as I say they have all been incredible to me and my personal co-ordinator has been amazing and caring too. She is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met and always kept me updated and answered all questions I had even before I arrived in Turkey. I honestly don’t think I could have picked a better clinic to carry out my procedure and literally couldn’t pick a single fault in the 6 nights I ended up staying at Asmed. I will add some stats on my hair once I arrive home but my thickness is 55 microns and been taking Finasteride 1mg 5 weeks before procedure. Thanks for reading and I would be happy to answer any questions or give advice about choosing Asmed, but so far I’m so happy I decided to go with Asmed. The first 2 photos are straight after my first day of the procedure.
  15. Yes, but Asmed usually still needs more grafts than other clinics to achieve their result regardless NW scale. If for NW2 other clinics need 1500 - 2000 grafts, Asmed needs 3000. If for NW3 other clinics need 2500 - 3000 grafts, Asmed needs 4000, etc. Their donor areas look quite qood after megasessions. Are they cheat with number of grafts? Yes, I agree, Asmed´s hairline design is disaster. One unnatural, strange and ridiculous hairline is also on my head. Dr. Erdogan used to say that"your hairline is always with you". This is true. I hate my hairline everywhere I go...
  16. Asmed is a know quantity here so this glowing advertisement is completely suspect. To me, anyway. I find it confusing that he gives a 3 day timeline and says nothing about Day 2. And Day 3 was 8.5 hours of..what? And his comment about Live Music - does Asmed have a band onstage? It sounds like quite the holiday!
  17. Alright....looks like it's my turn at the plate. Since I'd used this forum quite a bit when making decisions concerning my hair restoration surgery, I thought I'd share my experience with the community to help others make their decisions as well. My FUE procedure with ASMED was performed 11 days ago (December 17, 2018) and I had 3051 grafts transplanted. My progress and thoughts are described below. Online Quote I submitted my request for a quote on ASMED's website. This was a pretty simple process involving the submission of 12 photos (6 wet, 6 dry) from various angles and the submission of answers, on the website, to certain questions related to my hair loss, hair restoration goals, and medical history. Within a day, I received an email assigning me my patient coordinator. The following, day, I received an estimate for the total graft count I'd likely need, as well as the expected duration (in days) of the surgery and the amount of time I'd need to spend in Istanbul. A rough sketch of the surgical plan was provided, as well as a brief synopsis of what the surgery would entail, as well as the price per graft (2.5 euros) and information about the regrowth warranty. For those who have not done this yet, I'd recommend using a flash when you take your pictures. I didn't use a flash with mine (I used indirect natural light) and ended up getting under-quoted, as the extent of my hair loss at the vertex wasn't completely apparent in the images I had provided. Why I Chose ASMED I did a lot of research prior to making my decision. Out of all the reputable doctors I found (ones who were endorsed by the IAHRS, American Hair Loss Association, and this forum), Dr. Koray had the most patient results posted online, both by the clinic and by the patients, themselves. I had done an analysis of these results on one of the other threads by scanning through three of the online forums, including this one, and found that there was at least an 81% chance of having a good to great result, which was sufficient for me. There weren't really enough reviews of the other doctors to analyze them in a similar way with statistical significance. When combined with the cost of the procedure (which was relatively low compared to other top-tier clinics), dates of availability that aligned with my own, the 90% regrowth guarantee, ASMED's generally good reputation, etc., this clinic seemed like the best match for me. Coordination Prior to Trip While I waited for a few months between the submission of my deposit and my travel date, I peppered my coordinator (Muge) with questions about the process and procedure. For example, I asked her about: Methods of payment (including exchange rates, whether I could bring USD for the cash portion of my payment, etc.). You make an initial deposit in euros (maximum of 3500 euros) and then the remainder of the balance is paid in cash upon arrival at the clinic, on the consultation day. I was allowed to bring USD. To be honest, I wasn't very happy about having to carry thousands of dollars of cash with me (since I was kind of paranoid about losing it or being robbed), but, thankfully, I didn't end up having any issues. Information about my personal safety and the drivers. ASMED provides a photograph of their drivers, who pick you up at the airport, drive you to the hotel/clinic. All transportation to/from the airport and to/from the clinic is handled by ASMED. Information about accommodations. You're given the choice to stay at the Radisson Blu Istanbul Asia or at the clinic itself. I opted for the former, as the rooms at the clinic, as nice as they were, looked/felt a bit too much like hospital rooms. Also, I liked the 24 hour room service available at the hotel and the option to eat in solitude, if I so chose. If you choose to stay at the clinic, however, they provide you free meals throughout the day (you only get breakfast included if you stay at the hotel). Details about who would be performing the various aspects of the surgery, which was a point of contention on these forums. Dr. Koray performs the consultation, draws the hairline, and does the incisions during the surgery. Techs to the extraction and implantations. I discussed this at length with my coordinator and had a thorough understanding of how this would work long before I traveled; by the time I made the trip, I was comfortable with this arrangement. From what I was told, all technicians are required to meet specific, rigorous requirements (certain number of years practicing with the clinic, quality certification, etc.) before they are allowed to take part in the surgery. My coordinator was responsive, quick, and went out of her way to allay any of the concerns I had. She responded to me by email, phone (on the rare occasion when texting wouldn't be sufficient), and WhatsApp texting. Flights, Transportation, and Hotel I'm not going to go into detail about the flights, as that whole process is pretty straightforward and not really relevant to the clinic itself. Given that I'm from the US, I did need to get a travel visa to enter Turkey (you can do this online in advance and it costs about 20 USD). As expected, my driver was waiting for me in the airport arrivals area. He was holding a tablet with my name on it. The ride from the airport to the hotel was about 45 minutes (you cross from the European side of Istanbul to the Asian side) and I was the only passenger. The driver was friendly and responsive to my requests; he even described some parts of the city to me, as if he were giving a tour, during the drive. Additionally, water bottles and snacks were available inside the car. I opted to stay in the hotel for the reasons previously described. The room is comfortable and clean and there's a nice view of Istanbul if you're on one of the higher floors. Moreover, the hotel has 24 hour room service and a reasonably diverse menu -- this was a big selling point for me, as I was a bit self conscious about leaving the room with my head all marked up before the surgery and bandaged up after surgery. The employees at the front desk speak English, though the room service bellhops sometimes don't (IMO, they didn't really need to). The hotel has a spa and other pretty cool amenities, though I'll admit I didn't take advantage of many of them. In-Person Consultation On consultation day (the Friday before the procedure), I was driven to the clinic in the early afternoon. I was promptly greeted in the lobby by my coordinator, as well as a host who asked if I needed a drink or a snack (she did this repeatedly throughout the day). Two girls in the lobby serenaded the waiting patients with piano and violin. The atmosphere was light and relaxing. There were several other patients in the lobby at the same time, taking a break from various stages of the consultation. My coordinator sat down with me and gave me an overview of what I should be expecting that day, as well as on surgery day. After we discussed certain questions I had, she led me to various rooms for different stages of the pre-operative process, including a blood test and EKG, photographs, head shaving, etc. These activities were generally smooth and quick, though I had one small criticism -- specifically, that I had to wait for a while in the lobby for Dr. Koray to finish surgery before my in-person consultation. I was really jetlagged and tired at the time and it would've been better if I didn't have to wait nearly as long between the tests and the consultation with the doctor (like if they had timed me to come later in the afternoon). Other than this, everything was pleasant. When I met with Dr. Koray in his office, he greeted me warmly and introduced me to some of the other senior staff members. He came across as affable, jovial, and welcoming. As I introduced myself, he cracked a joke about the trend line from my analysis on this forum; at first, I was a bit taken aback that he knew I was the author, since I never actually identified myself (but I guess there weren't many American patients coming at the same time as I was). I sat down and Dr. Koray showed me the photographs taken earlier that day on his monitor. I showed him my own printed photos of what I wanted to look like (images of me from about 5 years ago), as well as pictures of my bald grandfather as an illustration of family history. Dy. Koray explained that we could meet my goal, but that I was, unfortunately, on my way to a NW6 (I'm currently NW3). He went on to explain that the degree of surgical intervention required would likely be higher than originally expected. As mentioned above, the photos taken at the clinic revealed noticeable thinning at the crown/vertex that wasn't nearly as apparent in the images that I had taken at home. The doctor recommended that I take finasteride in order to avoid having to come back to have the vertex worked in the near future (I was only quoted for a one day surgery on the frontal part of my head) and I explained to him the negative experience (i.e., side effects) that I'd experienced with finasteride years ago. He said he understood and that he respected my position, given that I'd tried it already in the past. I ultimately decided that I prefer to avoid finasteride (given what happened the first time I used it) and might come back to Turkey for a second round later, if necessary. I'll deal with the vertex when the time comes; this way, I'll have a chance to see how the results on the front part of my head turn out before I make any more decisions. At this point, the doctor took measurements of my hair and explained the calculation he uses to determine coverage. He then drew a hairline and asked for my thoughts. I was a bit picky with the hairline and requested several tweaks (including one small modification on the morning of the surgery) so that the line would match the natural one I used to have as closely as possible/reasonable. The doctor was patient with me and made the changes I asked for. After we were finished, and as I was getting up to leave his office, Dr. Koray turned to me and said something to the effect of "LordBaldwin, I can tell you care a lot about details, and so do I. I won't disappoint you." He went out of his way to reassure me; it seemed like he cares a great deal about making his patients happy. Surgery On surgery day, I was driven to the clinic early in the morning. I was taken to a small locker room to change into a surgical gown and was then led to the surgical room. The entire surgical area was very clean and organized (as an example, my coordinator had me change into a different set of shoes that they provided me as I entered into the "clean area"). In the surgical room, the team gave me a blanket and checked that I was comfortable. The anaesthesiologist asked me if I was nervous and I told him that my heart rate (which was showing on one of the monitors as around 90 bpm) is usually around 70 bpm. He nodded and injected me with a benzodiazepene and a sedative. I almost immediately relaxed. I sat upright with a head support wedged between my chin and my lap as the technicians injected my scalp with local anaesthetic and began the extraction phase. As they proceeded, they were very professional and repeatedly asked me if I felt any pain (if I did, they'd give me some more local anaesthetic). As grafts were removed from the donor area of my scalp, one of the technicians observed them under a microscope and counted, in real time, how many singles, doubles, triples, etc. had been extracted. These numbers were displayed on a screen in front of me. My coordinator handed me a tablet in case I wanted to surf the web or watch a movie. If I recall correctly, extractions took about 3 hours. We took a break for lunch, which the clinic provided. Upon returning to the operating room, I was told I could lie down for the remainder of the surgery. I was hooked back into the IV and Dr. Koray came in to do the incisions. I don't remember exactly how long the incision phase took since I was sedated and kept drifting in and out of sleep, but I do remember Dr. Koray working on me for some time, then shaking my hand at the end and mentioning that my circulation was very good and I'll be very happy with how things turn out. I slept through most of the implantation phase as well, up until the last hour or so. The technicians were methodical and quiet, and my coordinator, who sat across from me, assured me that everything was going well and repeatedly asked how I was doing. In total, the procedure took about 9 hours. After it was over, I was led back down to the photography room for post-operative photos to be taken. I was given instructions on how to do the post-op washes, sat under a laser/light follicular stimulation pod for a little while, and then was invited to dinner at the clinic (invitations for dinner at the clinic were extended to me every night I was in Istanbul, except for the weekend). Although I was only required to stay until the next day for the first wash, I opted to stay for an additional two days to recover a bit before I traveled back to the US. In the morning on each of the additional two days, I was driven back to the clinic for my morning wash (and some tea). Overall Impression Overall, I'm very happy with my experience at ASMED and would recommend it to other prospective patients (provided that they've done their due diligence and understand how surgeries are performed there). Since I had prepared extensively for my trip, I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to experience and there were no surprises. All of the employees were very accommodating, friendly, and attentive, and I felt well taken care of. The clinic itself was large, clean, and modern (ASMED had clearly spared no expense). A couple of other little pluses I noted: - On one occasion, I asked if the clinic had Turkish coffee (I wanted to try this since I didn't really get the chance to explore Istanbul while I was there). They didn't have it at that moment, but they actually went out and got it for me the following day! This was a relatively minor thing, but it impressed me. - On the last day I was there (when I came to the clinic for my third wash), Dr. Koray came into the room and asked me about my experience, making sure that it was positive. I told him I had enjoyed my time there, which he was happy to hear. The fact that he cared so much about my experience struck me very positively. Progress First, some hair characteristics... Hair thickness: 55 microns Hair per graft: ~2.44 Donor capacity prior to surgery: 8400 grafts Number of grafts transplanted: 3051 over 60 cm^2 Transplanted graft density: ~50 grafts/cm^2 And now, some pictures. Pre-Operative: Surgical Plan: Immediate Post-Operative (Day 0): Day 2 Post-Op: Day 3 (swelling is mostly gone): Day 5 (scabs and some minor cracking visible): Day 7 (vast majority of the scabs have come off): Day 10:
  18. i dont think they cheat per se, but I would definitely argue their approach is less artistic and thought-out than other clinics which have more direct doctor involvement. And so that might be reflected in their higher graft numbers. Asmed are also not known for their conservatism, so comparing different graft estimates between clinics can also be difficult. Hair selection matters (there are different types of hair located throughout the donor), the placement of grafts matter, hair direction matter. If getting a HT is about creating an "illusion of density" it's how a clinic approaches these things (and more) that distinguishes an average clinic from a great one - there is an artistry to this field after all. IMO Asmed basically just get the job done - which for a lot of guys is enough. I dont know your current situation or what happened specifically, but im sorry about your hairline. All I can hope is that you still have a viable donor supply and some options to fix it. If it helps Ive seen a few repair cases by Feriduni lately where he has fixed and redrawn the hairline which looked amazing.
  19. Hello guys. Can see on this forum more people take a part. HLT forum has lately died. Have checked many threads in here and noticed that many of you who had been doing ht in Asmed got the same issue like me after 1st procedure. Had a touch up cos my gaps and lack of density behind the hairline was killing me. This is the link to my first hair transplanthttps://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...key-dr-koray-erdogan-3073grafts.112181/page-3Wasn't happy at all. Had no density and loads of gaps between some area(you can see properly now on the photo below). Have decided to give another try to Dr. Koray. Seen many bad results lately, but he used to be the top one. Still believe he can do a very good hair transplant like before 2017( on which I based my opinion about chosing the clinic). I am aware its a bit risky to do it but wanted to trust him again. Hopefully this time more grafts gonna survive and I haven't made a wrong decision... gain everything(nice looking front and almost whole nw3 covered with grafts or lose almost everything, many grafts used and still not being pleased). Let's see and the answer we will get within 6-9 months (seen already 2 guys in here which had touch up in the same clinic(asmed) and is looking great. )
  20. @BaldBrit I highly advise you to stay clear from ASMED as they are a Turkish hairmill with techs operating on 8 patients per day and the Doctor has zero to little involment. There are several botched ASMED patients on HRN complaining about being threatened with lawyers or simply ignored. In Turkey the only safe bet is HLC at 2.5€graft and you will find that the UK is overpriced for the level of quality. Dr. Reddy is great but you can get better or similar Doctors for a much lower price if you get on a plane. You will need +8000 grafts to rebuild your hairline with a decent density and fill in your midscalp and crown (the diagnosis you got for 1 session of 4000 grafts is ridiculous!). I advise you to forget about FUE and have FUT because it`s the best way to get the most grafts in a single session. Take a look at the King of FUT Mega Sessions in Europe - Dr. Muresanu at Hattingen Clinic. They did 8100 grafts in 1 session: He charges 3,45€/graft for FUT (but maybe you can negotiate). Check the list I made with the prices for some of the Doctors I contacted during my research.
  21. 1st time posting here. i've been losing hair since i was 20, did my 1st HT FUT in 2013 for 1500 grafts, then 2nd FUE HT with a well known surgeon in Beverly hills for 2000 grafts in Dec 2018. its been around 18 months since i had that 2nd procedure and id say i'm about 60% satisfied with the front. I was told by that Dr. that i would need a 3rd procedure to fill the mid and crown which i planned to do. However after seeing the results with this doctor, i'm not prepared to spend a ton of money for another 2000 grafts as he suggested that won't achieve my goals. There appear to be areas like my right side hairline that are see through and right in the middle front where i feel like he didn't put any grafts or nothing grew. After consulting with a few doctors, i was told i am a repair case. I do want to note, i was advised to take FIN and i did not as i was scared of the sides and i did continue to lose more hair in the mid/crown. I plan on starting FIN 1 mg a day or every other day. when i do my 3rd HT after talking to numerous people and doctors. I started looking at doctors in Turkey (Pekiner, HLC, Demirsoy, ASMED, Hair transplant of Istanbul, then India (bhatti, Suneet Soni) and i also reached out to Couto, Lorenzo, Ferreira of Spain/Portugal. Dr. Couto is unfortunately not accepting any consultations at the moment. I found some decent results on some Brazilian doctors, has anyone on hear have good experience with them? I recently saw Thiago BIanco Leal and they look solid too. Turkish clinic i short listed was Pekiner who advised me 4000 grafts (2000 from BHT). I wasn't expecting to take that many grafts from beard/chest at least in my 3rd HT. i know that yields on BHT is lower than scalp. For India, Soni said i would also need 4000 grafts but max 2500 via FUE and 1500 grafts with FUT. This was the first time i was introduced by a doctor of combining FUT+FUE. I'm not looking to have a 2nd linear scar. Bhatti said i only have 2200-2500 grafts available and thats all i need for the crown. Dr. Ferreira's clinic gave me a detailed assessment/plan and Dr. Ferreira personally emailed me saying i would need 4000 grafts to fill my mid/crown and do another procedure 5 months from then to repair donor scar and touch up hairline as its a bit see through. He mentioned my donor looks good for 4000 grafts, my previous doctor also mentioned that after my 2nd HT.
  22. Hi everybody, I had my 3rd surgery with Asmed on the 14th of Feb. Hopefully this is my final transplant. I had some hair line issues which we have rectified this time around and have also targeted the crown area. I arrived in Turkey, Istanbul on the 10th with the consultation with Dr Koray on the 13th. The new hospital is very modern and high tech. I did find it very quiet and less "fun" than the old hospital. Consultation During the consultation I was looked after Suzanna who has an great insight into patient care and of transplants. She is very knowledgeable regarding the tech around hair transplants and was the one who I had been in constant touch prior arriving in the country. First, the standard photographs were taken with an handheld camera. Both dry and wet shots. Then the KE-Bot was used to calculate my donor. This machine/robot in my eyes is an amazing piece of equipment. In an space of 15 mins, it can take 3000 images of every single hair you have in the donor and also in the recipient. From the screen in front of me, I could see how thick my donor hair is and was amazed to see I have donor hairs consisting of 5, 6 and 7 hairs in terms of grouping. After the Ke-Bot, my donor again was evaluated using an small head held camera which they use (its pressed against the skin). Once again, the micron was measured at 70. The micron is extremely important. As greater the micron, the more thicker the donor hair shaft is. Thicker micron usually determines in an overall satisfying end result. This is why some people get "wowed" by results by surgeons such as Couto. Couto patients usually have thick micron's; if your donor hair is on the thin side then do not expect to have an result like Couto patients. You will only hurt yourself and your expectations will not be met. Have seen it many times on this forum. Finally Dr Koray arrived. It was great seeing him. Once again, he was an gentlemen and he took his time explaining everything. He was against transplanting in the crown as he stated I had some miniaturized hairs which may get shocked. But I wanted this to me my final surgery so he gave the ok signal. As a joke, I told him I don't want to see him again in another 5 years in an another new hospital and he burst out laughing. But if I am in Istanbul again, I will surely visit again. Thanks to him having hair again, it has turned my life around, made me more feel confident. He is an friend for life. I also met Dr Alp Bayramoglu who is part of the team. Great guy and took an great interest in my previous 2 surgeries. Finally the hair line drawing. Dr Koray said 800 grafts in the hairline and behind it. 300 grafts into the crown. I already had 700 grafts in the vertex area from my 2nd surgery but this time all the 300 grafts were concentrated in the black hole cow where my cowlick is. This time the hair line is much more systematic. Before it was too straight from the left side and too high from the right side. Much more rounded and unique. Then I was taken to the KE-photo. This is an photography machine. You sit, then the machine comes down and takes about 10 photos in one go instead of someone manually taking the photos with an camera. Then Dr Umat the anaesthetist arrived. He was still tough as old boots but humorous like last time. I was supposed to meet Dilek but did not get the chance during both days I was at Asmed. I then left Asmed for my hotel. I understand a few people have stated the consultation felt rushed. This is not the case. Dr Koray has every single piece of information he needs to make decisions. Like the KE-Bot, the calculation of the donor, the micron of the donor. For me, I knew I am in good hands. He has all the information he needs from his tools. In my view Asmed is better now than they were before. Surgery day Standard stuff really; arrive at 7am, change clothes etc. Met the team in the surgery room and was glad to hear the team had more than 8 years in experience with Asmed. The main tech was the same one who worked on me from the 2nd surgery. Took 4 hours to extract 1126 grafts. Then lunch, then Dr Koray did the incisions. I think I fell asleep after and woke up right at the end when they finishing placing the final few grafts in the crown. I inspected the work and I was happy to see the dense packing in both hairline and crown area. They bandaged my head and I went back to the hotel. The next morning the bandage was removed, the work was washed and photos were taken again with the KE-photo. Then again, with the KE-Bot. Finally it was time to say goodbye to Dr Koray, Suzanna and everyone else. Final thoughts Like everyone else, I had been concerned about the quality of work declining and I asked the clinic. It is safe to say I am happy with their answers and before my 3rd surgery researched every patient forum where Asmed cases have been posted (real patient write-ups) such French, German, Italian forums and their work is still high quality. Dr Koay has been investing heavily into research and new technology and its only for his patients; to make a great result into an even greater result. The KE-bot is the world’s only robotic system to prepare a 3D model of the head, determine surface area, follicular unit density, hair density, the calculated density, the hair diameter, and coverage value. I know because it was used on me. The KE-photo also is an great technology. It is an photography system that takes six photos simultaneously in the same view to maintain consistency in before and after photography. Expectations, Expectations, Expectations Hair transplants is both an surgical procedure and an form of artisity. Actually it is way more than that. It is about donor hair, thick or thin hair shafts, the amount of hair loss, use of medication. These are all important. And for me, it has all worked out at the end. First, the usage of fin has greatly thickened my hair (I have been taking more than 7 years with no side effects). Secondly, I have an great donor. My patient lisaon (Suzanna) commented how thick my hair was. More thicker than Arabs and even more thicker than typical south-asian hair. I was astonished to hear this as I am south asian myself. I have played it safe with small surgeries of 2402 (2013), 2482 and finally 1126 (2020) grafts. I believe the gap in the years have helped the transplants mature and to see if any further hair loss has been detected...good to say it hasn't. It could be fin is still helping to maintain. I had my first transplant at 24 now I am 31. I have more hair than most of my friends. Usually again, the more surgeries you have the less thicker the donor becomes and the bigger grafts decline in number. It has not been the case for me: 2404 (2013) Single 489, double 1159, triple 700, multiple 54. Average 2.13 2482 (2016) Single 409, double 1392, triple, 633, quadruple 54, quintuple 2. Average 2.14 1126 (2020) Single 122, double 697, triple, 283, quadruple 24 Total 6012 grafts I will post when the need requires in the future, as hair loss is an battle which I have won (so far).
  23. Hi everybody, I'm relatively new to these forums and to considering getting a HT but after growing tired of wearing a hair replacement system for the past 2 years, it is now something I'm debating. I am based in the UK and so far I've had consultations with the Hair Dr (UK) and Hair of Istanbul (Turkey). After seeing some posts on here I've contacted Asmed and H&W for consultations but with so many options and so many different choices I'm finding it really challenging to know which clinics are reputable and have proven expertise. Can anybody suggest any other clinics that are well regarded that I should consider? Price and location aren't necessarily the biggest factors in my decision as I'd rather get a good transplant than a cheap one. Are there any clinics that have a history of being good with advanced hair loss candidates? I'd consider myself a NW 6/7 with picture attached for reference. I hope I'm not too late. Of my 2 consultations, Hair Dr said I could do 4000 grafts in 1 session whereas Hair of Istanbul suggested 2 sessions 1 year apart to do the front/top first and then crown, so I'm just getting a bit overwhelmed and confused with everything and any help/advice/suggestions/logical reasoning would be appreciated.
  24. ??? The first Pic does not look symmetrical to me as well. It also does not have to be symmetrical to look natural. It really depends on your facial features. Independent of that: the ASMED macro design was typically not to my liking.
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