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  1. Well I'm telling you- I've tried multiple times. I'm a prospective patient and was intending to go with them and tried to get a Skype consult. I had a few consults with their reps and got a graft estimate and everything but they stated to me that Dr. Hasson does not take consultations but Dr. Wong does. I decided to go thru with it, but something else happened, and I decided to pass.
  2. Dr. Hasson does not take online consultations via skype. I've tried. However, Dr. Wong does if I'm not mistaken.
  3. @Dr. Victor Hasson - Thank you very much for taking the time out of your busy life to respond to my post! I’m in the process now of speaking with a H & W consultant (Mike Ferko) and looking forward to hearing your official diagnosis with # of grafts and expected density. THANK YOU!
  4. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don’t think that Dr. Hasson said anything bad, in fact most of what he said is true. Spex does promote the surgeons that pay him, that’s transparent. Now his criteria for working with a surgeon I’m sure is transparent as well, at least I hope. Secondly, what Dr. Hasson has said about his FUE is also true. Some of the best FUE results I’ve seen lately are coming out of H&W and they have solidified themselves as an Elite FUE+FUT clinic. The only correction is that we did not ban Jotronic, he left on his own accord. We simply fulfilled his request.
  5. I think i may just bite the bullet and go with Dr. Rahal. I'm going to call his office sometime this week and go from there. I was really considering hasson & wong, but Dr. Rahal's hairline are just so great.
  6. 57 days out of a so far good experience with Dr L. Nader. This post will have results, experiences, opinions on my procedure and the process in general. 1) Decision. Early 40's male with slow progressing hair loss since early 20's and at time of procedure guessing a NW5 . Still had enough hair growing across the bridge of my head for some passable comb over action. Hair loss comes in waves somewhat. And this last wave over the past 3 years it went from presentable. to really thin and debatable if the comb over was helping frame my face, or looking kind of like I was holding on and trying too hard. Basically that point we can all see in other guys when we can safely say they look better just buzzing it and owning their confidence again. Funny thing is we don't see it easy in ourselves. To that end we have all seen men here completely failing in this department. I watched several guys here who looked really handsome with a little receding hairline rush and get a new one only to look less manly and detract from their looks. Granted, most guys benefit hugely from the front center being there, but sometimes high temples look better with certain guys and they screw it up. Bit the biggest fails I see here are the older guys who overdye and get too aggressive trying to see themselves at 20 in the mirror and it looks BAD. Or the flip side is they get some little tuft of hair three inches too high. It looks good to them, but they would look so much better just shaving it off and waste huge money on a look that hurts their looks. ASK PEOPLES ADVICE. I was lucky that I have a few really attractive female friends in their late 30's and early 40's and got some feedback. All said the same things! First is they really don't look at guys hair much unless it is bad. Kind of like how women notice each others nails and makeup but guys don't really focus on that. But let's also be honest, some people look good bald, but most look better with hair. A HT isn't going to make you go from a 5 to a 10. But like clothes, really bad hair can ruin you. If it is stringy and receding bad. man up and cut it off. Or if you are a good candidate and can really make a nice look, go with the HT if you can afford it. But only if it really can improve your look. Go bald or have it restored to at least a convincing mature hairline. After looking at 10,000 results I can say anything less will only make you look worse! To that end, I gave up the struggle with creative combing, hair spray and shading makeup (works great for once in a while when you want to look your absolute best). I cut my hair to about one inch. I hated it at first. Never had it like that before. Crazy thing is after a few weeks of getting used it it I knew I looked a 1000x better. All my female friends I asked were crystal clear they thought it was great short and was an improvement. I know I looked more bald, but confidence is sexy and I looked more confident . even if I didn't feel it. I always thought I would never have the kind of face or head that looked right buzzed. But turns out it's probably in my head and a lot of guys too. I only cut it short to prepare for the HT and see how I liked it since it was going to get cut off anyhow. I grew to like it. Not sure I will choose to grow it back to the 3-4 inches it was ever again. 2)Decision made, now what? So I am not a rich guy. But I always said when my hair got to the point where I really felt it was an issue, I would look at getting FUE. NEVER FUT. Month's of research and for the life of me, unless you are a NW6 who want's to absolutely push graft numbers to the limits, why would you ever let someone meat clever your head and get a huge scar. DON'T DO IT unless you are in that tight spot going for broke. Even then I think it is foolish. Two big decisions to make. One was what surgeon and two, how much needed to be done with a FUT procedure. I could not afford to use one of the top 10 big name clinics in the world. They have a huge proven track record of a high rate of good results and are the obvious choice if you have $20-40,000usd to spend. And with so many results you can see each doctor has a look that they strive for. Some are dense hairlines, some maximizing donor grafts for the best overall look. All are good, but pick one who's style you like and you have made as safe of a bet as you can. No Dr. hits a home run every time. Even the best. But odds are ever in your favor! HT is not rocket science. I see tons of guys disappointed for different reasons. Sometimes it is a medical failure, but usually an issue of unrealistic expectations, surgeon skill and lack of homework. After having looked at 1000's of results I gained some wisdom. The math does not lie. To get the density I wanted over the area that I wanted with the hair type I have I knew I needed 3,500 Grafts. The numbers are simple really, but ignored by most. The average patient with average thickness hair and average of 2 hairs per FU needs 40-50 follicles transplanted per cm2. installed in mostly bald areas. That is the minimum to have hair that does not look blatantly thin to the average person in front of you. It would probably not look right on a 22 year old, looks okay on a 40y old and up. Now, if you have jet black hair on a white guy, going to need more! It is not hard to measure. I did the math and knew what I needed. Now to find the right Dr. 3) With my budget in mind, I set out to explore the lesser known options outside of the superstars. This is where it gets murky. Even the 2nd tier surgeons in the US are pretty expensive. Some are for sure second tier because they don't do as good or as reliable work. Others are maybe up and coming and making a name for themselves. You can make your own decisions there. Then there are the 3rd tier places. Basically every city is full of plastic surgeons who will do a HT for you. But unless this is what they do, and all they do, STAY AWAY. It is a very skilled thing and needs a well oiled machine of a team. But for guys who are on a limited budget there is another option. Getting your HT done in a lower cost nation. Turkey is the superbowl of that. If you are smart and do your homework, you can get a world class HT done there at a fraction of the cost. But you really need to do your homework and sometimes roll the dice. I mean if you have a 95% chance of getting a best case result at a US superstar, maybe you have a 90% there at a good place in Turkey for 1/4 of the price. On a budget, that is still pretty good odds. I was going to get a HT in Turkey. The risk to reward on a budget was the next best choice to a top doc here in the USA. I was about to book a plane ticket when I caught wind of Dr. Nader in Mexico. 4) Why I went to Mexico. Simple really. I found a doctor I felt confident in who crossed all the t's and dotted all the I's I needed for a practice. His results were good (at least at the time I booked) and of course it was much closer than Turkey. I rented a car and drove there in a day. And of course, cost. I could afford 3,500 grafts there. And more importantly felt confident in his practice. To me it was the next best choice after the top USA doctors. So I booked a 2 day FUE with him. 5) Why Dr Nader. I knew I was going to have to get more creative than booking a bankrupting HT with Hasson and Wong. Having researched tons of doctors, medical journals and message boards, I came to settle on this guy for a few reasons beyond cost and location. He does the extractions and incisions himself. In other words, no technicians who you know nothing about doing the work. Sure, people can be trained and you go with the reputation of the practice. But even better if you know for sure someone who has done this 1000's of times is behind the punch putting 1000's of holes in your head. He has the right staff. Dr. Nader had 5 nurses/techs working with him on my procedure. He used a .8mm punch He limits how many grafts he does a day and only sees one patient a day. Very important and a real sign of quality. His website is lacking and marketing is non existent. But with some real effort you can see he had the important things you look for on paper with a good HT surgeon. At the end of the day I really had to look at results. His results are poorly documented. Considering he does this every day and has for over a decade, you would hope for more to go on. But I really had only about 10 results to see. And to be honest some looked mediocre. On the bright side I never saw any negative reviews or bad results. Then came the real hard looks. I noticed every mediocre result was because of low graft counts. Simply put Dr. N was getting really good results with the actual hairs he transplanted, but often patients were not having enough grafts done to start with. At the time of my booking I only could find one person he worked on that had what I would consider a sub-par result. I figured most of the unremarkable results were due to budget. I mean if the patient only has a limited budget, you do what you can and I think he gets a lot of guys who are on a budget. Armed with that information I felt strongly that Dr. N was a good choice and would be able to get the same graft survival rates as any top doctor should. I will add that right at the time of my procedure several new cases came to light here where his results were week even when the patient had enough grafts implanted. So I kind of got nervous. Though even those results were not failures. But they were not home runs either. One guy may just need more time, the other looks like maybe 60% of it grew. Time will tell I guess. Had I see these before my procedure, I may have gone to Turkey and seen one of the clinics there. It would have been a harder choice. I am glad I saw them after..lol 6)Procedure. His office is 2 miles from the USA. Really no big deal and he sends a car. Nice office. Everything they say about the man here is spot on. He is kind, professional, knowledgeable and you can not help but feel in good hands and like the guy. Very down to Earth. We talked about my goals and what we would be working towards. He also talked very candidly about his own struggles with hair loss and why he chose this profession. Even some American doctors who he knows personally as he is active in the community of HT surgeons. I also learned quickly why many of his results look thin. It really comes down to each surgeon is a bit of an artist too. His aesthetic is very conservative. To say he is NOT money driven is an understatement. He tried to convince me I only needed 2500 grafts even though it would still take up the two days I was booked for. So he would have lost thousands of dollars because he was advocating for me and what he felt. He could have safely transplanted the 3500. He just said it was not needed to have a nice result, and save my money. So two awesome things there, One, you start to realize this Dr. in his mind thinks thin hair looks age appropriate. There is no right or wrong there. Two, he proved to me that he is not money driven, but results and compassion driven. Regardless of my final result, I completely respect and feel confident in his ethics. Ultimately I was steadfast in wanting to get the density I was aiming for and knew I needed to hit for the look I wanted (low 40's per cm2). He agreed to implant to a as high a density as possible where we were still 100% safe and not pushing it. We ended up with about 500 extra grafts since I was insistent on harvesting 3500 and he truly didn't know how dense he could pack safely till implantation started later. So we put the last 500 in the crown. He also ended up with about 100 more grafts than I paid for, but told me not to worry about that. Very classy operation. Procedure was over two consecutive days. Not painful and pretty standard for a HT. Each session of about 1800 grafts took about 6 hours from first punch, till last implant. That's well within the safe zone time wise. He also uses a upgraded storage solution, but only mentioned it when I asked. These are things he could easy market on his website or cheap out on techs. Nope, he just likes what he does and cares for his patients. The first night I took some Advil. Night of 2nd day or surgery I didn't even have to take anything. It was as pleasurable and painless as you can hope for. It is really not fun though and let's not sugar coat it. But not so horrible you can't watch TV or grit your teeth and get through it. At the end of the two days we had implanted 3588 grafts. Nearly all were 2 hair grafts. My hairs according to him were on the thicker side of average. I have average donor density in back, so I probably have 2-3000 or so in reserve for the future. Most of it went into the frontal 1/3 and quick math shows we implanted at a density of about 43 grafts per cm2. We went with a fairly conservative hairline that we agreed looked good. Though he felt I could have left it about 1/3 inch higher on my forehead. I wanted it a bit more forward and that's what he did and I don't regret that.
  7. This Vancouver area patient in his mid-30’s came to the clinic to address his receded hairline and thinning frontal zone. Dr. Hasson and team used 2575 grafts extracted via FUE to restore the area and achieve the desired result. 302 were single hair grafts, 2017 were doubles and 256 were 3-4 hair grafts. These photos were taken just shy of 1 year post-op. *At the time of his procedure we were experimenting with a white background, we have since gone back to blue. Apologies for the difference.
  8. I noticed alot of Dr. Hasson's hair design are all quite similar and more of a mature look with a V-Shape, by any chance does anyone know if he had ever venture into a more straight line or non V-shape for a youther look?
  9. Vancouver area patient in his late 40’s had finer hair with diffused thinning heading for a stage 6. Hoping for as many grafts as possible and something north of 4,000, his above average density enabled Dr. Hasson and team to harvest 6514 grafts via FUT to rebuild a new hairline and frontal zone, restore the mid-scalp and work back into the crown. 1969 were single hair grafts, 4162 were doubles and 383 were 3-4 hair grafts. These photos were taken 3 years post-op.
  10. Thanks for the comments guys! The hair shaft diameter was less than average, chart notes indicate he has "fine" hair. Therefore more grafts were able to be placed in the relatively small area but not a stretch from what we're able to accomplish in most cases as far as high density where required. I think this is of some interest as I would have guessed based on the photos the hair to have a larger shaft diameter. A testament to Dr. Hasson's rare ability to create this type of density and result with fine hair. Here are some additional "Intra-OP" pics taken about halfway or more into the procedure. The post-op donor pic doesn't show much due to his hair length but his density was good and there's not any noticeable decrease in volume and density.
  11. Hi @Recedinggenes, there's a couple factors that i would suggest you do, first try to get an online consultation from both if you can. You will be able to ask alot of questions and they will be able to tell you the process and what would be a good fit for you. I did it with Dr. Hasson and felt very comfortable with speaking to both Chris and Doug and eventually Dr. Hasson to make a formal decision. I am not quite familiar with Dr. Gabel but the staff and Dr. Hasson are really personable and fantastic whom take very good care of you. His results are amazing as you can see through multiple people's results in the forum. However, I just got mine 5 days ago so I am basing it off what i just been through so far. Another factor why I decided to go with Dr. Hasson is due to location was key as i wanted to be closer to where I live, and Dr.Hasson's team constantly posts recent patience's results in this forum which showcase his amazing work. I kinda like that about a team whom is really proud of their projects.And If you are from out-of-town they do provide some reimbursement credit for accommodation i believe. Side note, I was also considering Dr.Diep but they lack communication was very poor, till this day I am still on their waiting list since Sept 2018 and had never had any email indicating when the next opening is. Luckily I did not give them my deposit as they request for it. I can only imagine what kind of communication I get if I needed post-op care. Good Luck.
  12. Thanks @Legend007. How was your post-op care at home? I noticed others have saline solution but that wasn't part of Dr. Hasson's instruction care guide. When did you start washing the grafts comfortably to avoid scabbing, and removing some hair grafts along with causing ingrown hair. I am on Day 5 starting tomorrow and on Day 4 i just patted my hair with cupping water and shampoo under the sink ever so lightly. However, the hair is kinda itchy right now as i type.
  13. Great results. I was having my surgery when this gentlemen came in to take his 9 months post-op photo which i thought were amazing. Can't even tell he had any HT. Dr. Hasson is reallly great at what he does.
  14. Wow I’m so jealous. I just got mine done too with Dr. Hasson andI was hoping maybe to get a lower hairline but I trusted his design and it would of costed more. But 👍👍👍👍
  15. Nice work! Dr. Hasson Was on my short list as well. I waited from 19 until age 34 to have the procedure done. Let me tell you it feels amazing. I'm 5 months post and am thrilled with what i am seeing so far. I had a similar receding hairline as yours , and now having a nice hairline to frame the face is priceless. It gets worse before it gets better.
  16. went into the clinic today for some shots from dr. hasson to treat the affected areas, everything went smooth. will check back with them in 4 weeks! just time to wait now. thanks for reaching out and taking care of me hasson and wong
  17. Hi thebossman, Dr. Hasson has looked at your photos and is very pleased with the result. I agree with him that your hairline looks fabulous! As far as the donor area, he feels it does appear that the spots are alopecia areata. Certainly not from the FUE extraction. He would like you to come to the clinic so he can confirm his findings and direct you to the proper treatment plan. I have also left you a message. Get in touch with me as soon as you can and I'll assist in setting up your visit. No SMP for now at this stage. Thx, talk soon.
  18. Hi everyone, Have been around the forum for some time now, and have seen the pre-screened physician area, but am hoping for some advice and referrals of surgeons who have been getting good results for FUE crown procedures. I’ve already had a 2000 grafts FUE crown hair transplant in Australia but am unhappy with the results due to low density. The doctor didn’t even focus on my crown and blended way too far into my existing hairline! 2 years later and my crown is still thin. After speaking to all the main hair transplant surgeons in Australia, I have concluded they are all low quality and shady. Therefore, I’m prepared to go overseas for my next procedure. North America is convenient, and I’m impressed with gallery pictures from Dr. Parsa Mohebi as well as Hasson and Wong. I’m thinking 500-600 FUE grafts (up to 1200 hairs) at 30 grafts per cm2 with an effective crown design should give me a significantly better cosmetic outcome than what I have now? Currently my crown looks ok when viewed from front and sides but looking from top and back it still looks quite thin/bald and that’s what I’d like to fix. Being in my early 30s and not on any medication (except PRP) I’m hesitant to use too much donor area since I haven’t touched my front hairline yet. Even though my hair loss seems stable and I have good density/coverage at the front, who knows what further procedures might be needed in the future. I’ve attached photos of: The day before my first transplant The day after the first transplant (showing in yellow where in my opinion grafts are still needed at a minimum) 3 x pics of my crown now 2 years post-surgery Appreciate any comments and feedback. Thank you.
  19. Hey guys I’m going to share my experience with you all cause for the last 6 months I’ve read into these threads and this is what incouraged me to ultimately go with Dr. Hasson and do the surgury. I’ve been struggling with hair lose since my early 20s and have been wearing a hat for 99% of the time. Only time I would take a hat off is at home or at a wedding literally. It really was driving me bonkers.So I flew into Vancouver from edmonton and went for it yesterday, I did the surgury. Mornig of the surgury I was greeted by the girls and and was told to change into the shirt they provide. Then we went into the OR room with . Dr. Hasson he’s funny and helps you not worry too much. Dr. Hasson gave me the needles so I wouldn’t feel anything you feel them but it’s what is expected. He then started with the strip. As he takes the strip out he is closing it up at the same time. Took about 45 min no big deal. After that he got right into the incisions. I clicked every 100 and we got to 3500. For the next 8 hours it was implanting time as 2 girls work on me and 2 more work on removing the hairs out of the strip. We had breaks for lunch and supper they give you a menu and you pick whatever. I watched tv and talked with the nurses all very nice. The chair starts to get uncomfortable as you could imagine for moving for 12 hours laid back in the chair. After the top 3500 was done Dr. Hasson came back in and started on my temples he did about 250 each side. By this time it was about 10 hours in. The girls started to implant on the temples and that took another 2 hours. Then whatever grafts were left over they doubled up on the top. After we were all done I came back to the hotel took my pain medication and sleeping pill and crashed hard. Had a good sleep now I’m sitting in my hotel room having breakfast. Highly recommend Dr. Hasson great guy and awesome clinic. Let me know what ya guys think I’m thinking I’m gonna get great results!!!!! And don’t worry I’ll update everyone all the time of progress so hopefully I can help other people that were in my case!!! I know how it is . Cheers
  20. It looks pretty good tbf and you’ve got more time for improvement, but it was a big risk considering how badly he’s regarded on here! Dr. Hasson did mine, take a look at page 5 I think for 12 month pics
  21. Hasson and Wong and Dr. Rahal are definitely worth checking out and they’re both in Canada.
  22. I am looking to get an FUE surgery done. After talking to 5 or 6 clinic, I was told I would need about 3500 graft. I have narrowed down to Dr. Diep or Dr. Hasson. Any thoughts or recommendation from anyone regarding these 2 doctors? During the process, I have also considered and had discussion with Shapiro, Ranior, Rahal.
  23. I’ve had a lot of experience with H&W over the years and I can hand in heart say that there’s absolutely no way either surgeon would suggest FUE over FUT based solely on their own financial gains. As mentioned in the comment above mine, this is simply a case where in the past the graft count would’ve been lowered to accommodate the lack of laxity with strip (which can only be assessed in person), now as FUE is an option this can be offered instead, but in no way would they do this as a bate and switch and ultimately if the person still wanted strip with a smaller amount (or whatever the laxity dictated) then they’d still do that. On a side note I recently spoke to Dr. Hasson personally about FUE and he commented their transaction rate with FUE is almost zero percent and the results they’ve been getting equal that of their strip surgery.
  24. Konior, Hasson and Wong, and Shapiro are top FUT doctors. I'm sure there are more, but those are the ones I'm familiar with. I think Dr. Feller, Bloxham and Cooley are pretty good too, but I haven't done that much research on them. If you do another big FUE session your donor area is most likely gonna be done, but if you opt for FUT you're still gonna have areas above and below the scar to take from. It's pretty simple math. Plus, FUT is cheaper if money is an issue for you.
  25. Hey guys just finished my 4th month .. around 120 days now . the next two months are the make or break months .. I had early growth spurt but things are slowly filling in now .. I have a 15X handheld mirror that has been giving me peace of mind .. I see a lot of little hairs that has popped but not noticeable enough to see with camera .. gives me some respect to Dr. Hasson , I can see the grafts were densely packed .. there’s barely space between them .. that’s a top notch clinic right there .. that’s able to do that .. so far things are going fine .. slow steady growth now .. no no I don’t use PRP ,, or minoxidil.. just Finasteride for 1.5 years now .. 1st pic is right out of the shower .. 2nd is how I’ve been combing my hair 3rd is how my donor hair 4th closeup so overall , the foundation of the transplant has formed .. now just have to fill in n mature ..
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