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  1. To be honest I am not sure when I really started to lose my hair. It was more of a woke up one day and thought "What the hell happened?" At any rate, around 40 or I met with a doctor in Beverly Hills and he gave me some idea of what the procedure would be like and what to expect. He did not recommend any drugs to prevent future hair loss though. I also didn't even think to ask. I, of course, did not go through with the surgery at that time. Instead I waited a couple of more years and eventually stumbled across this site. My process for this procedure was to talk to a few different doctors and then make a decision on if I was really going to do this and if so pick the appropriate doctor. Over the course of about 6 months I met with a handful of doctors. The first person I met with when I was 40 in Beverly Hills was Marc Dauer. He was a nice guy and gave me a lot of insight as to what the procedure would be like and what I could expect. Fast forward a couple of years and I ended up meeting with Micheal Meskin in Newport Beach, Daniel McGrath in Austin, TX, Hasson & Wong in Canada, and finally Scott Alexander in Phoenix, Az. All the doctors I met with were very professional and all of them were very open about what to expect for the procedure and what the healing process would be like. All the doctors, except Hasson & Wong, thought they could get about 2,500 grafts and maybe up to 3,000 if I was lucky. H & W said they could get 5,000. Maybe they could have. I don't know, but since their number was so much larger than other doctors it made me skeptical. Also, after a couple of weeks of communication and working through the specifics H &W just stopped responding. Ultimately, I ended up choosing Dr. Scott Alexander at the Biltmore Surgical Hair Restoration. All the doctors I spoke to varied in price from $3.50 - $5.00 per graft. Price, while important, wasn't a factor that would have prevented me from picking the doctor I wanted. In the end I chose Dr. Alexander because he had a ton of great reviews on this site. I had my surgery completed on Aug 2. Attached are the before and after surgery pics. I included other pics since it has been 2 weeks now and I am just getting around to posting this review. The surgery started around 730am and ended around 6pm. The office brought in lunch and I watched movies while Dr. Alexander and his staff worked away. The surgery was a success since the estimate was around 2,500 grafts. Instead we got 3,590 grafts (614 singles, 2006 doubles, and 970 multi hairs)! This allowed them to fill in a much larger area than expected. Prior to surgery I had started Finasteride and using a shampoo/conditioner called Ultrax. I figured if I am going to spend this type of money then I better work at protecting it. I wanted to be on Finesteride for about 6 weeks before the surgery. I wanted to make sure I would be side effect free before completing the surgery. When the surgery was complete I went back to the hotel ordered some food and took a pain killer. I was glad I took the pain killer because when the numbing agent wore off my scalp it hurt pretty badly. Although, the pain killer put me to sleep pretty quickly. I flew back to LA the next morning. I really didn't have any pain after the surgery. The donor area and my scalp were tender, but they didn't hurt. I removed my stitches on Aug 9, 7 days after surgery. The doctor that removed them thought the scar looked nice and that the work done on the top looked very good at that point as well. All the scabs on the top of my head had healed within 10 days. Right now the top and some parts of the donor area are still a little tender, but healing. It has been 16 days as of today and I did get a haircut. I needed to clean up my neck and around my ears. The stylist commented on how good the scar looked and that it looked healed at this point. I have been living in a hat when I am in public and will continue to do so until the top grows out to a length I can style it. I have been very open with clients, coworkers, friends, etc about the procedure. Interestingly enough most of the guys have been considering doing something about their hair loss and the women are intrigued. Sorry for the poor pics. I am taking the photos on my own so all the angles and things are hard to get. If anyone has any questions let me know. I will continue to post as the hair starts to grow in. Right now I am starting to get a tiny bit of shedding. I am guessing this will continue and all the transplanted hair will fall out over the next week or so.
  2. While I didn't create an account on this forum over the last couple of years it was invaluable in my research process and I want to pay it forward, especially since I seem to be seeing fewer patient posts with recent dates, at least for Dr. Cooley. Thus I will try to be thorough here in describing my process. Apologies in advance for the length of the post and the variability of the quality of the photos. I know they aren't the best. I am still only a few days/weeks out and will update this with before photos and after photos from the clinic and exact graft count(s) when I get them and try not to disappear throughout the process. My Past Situation I had an ill-advised FUT procedure when I was 21 to address temple recession. I wasn't on meds, it was premature, and I went to a cheap chop shop. CLASSIC, young guy being really stupid. :sigh The procedure (unknown # of grafts) involved putting grafts on the temples and unfortunately also some around the front of my hairline. It did very little cosmetically unless you count triggering massive loss of existing hair (most of which did grow back in fairness). The only saving grace here is that we were talking about a fairly minor temple area and because of my light hair/skin contrast I've been able to get away with a forward brush hairstyle that hid really poor work. Oh and it wasn't big plugs and the scar wasn't horrendous and avoided being in any disastrous region(s) thankfully. No matter what you do STAY AWAY from Samson Hair Restoration in Los Angeles regardless of what doctor they currently have cycled in. Why now Now, 11 years later at 32 with some additional thinning and some recession the previous work was becoming harder to cover, especially when swimming or my hair was wet. Plus, I just wanted it fixed to open up different hairstyles and to get ahead of managing what I believe will be future loss. Almost a gradual "replace" strategy I guess. In terms of meds, I had been on finasteride w/ no side effects for 4 years but then went off for 5+ years (don't really know why). I went back on 6+ months ahead in prep for a procedure and plan to stick with it this time. Not on finasteride or any other shampoos etc at the moment. Picking the surgeon In terms of research this time around I did a lot more homework using this forum as the basis for creating a smaller list of doctors. Ultimately I narrowed my list and research to consults with Lindsay, Bernstein, Cooley, Bloxham, and Nadimi. I felt these were really great doctors that didn't necessarily require a flight based on my East Coast USA location (I was intrigued by Rahal, Hasson/Wong/Kronior and some of the other staple of well regarded doctors as well but with only so much time felt good with my short list). I did not consider India/Turkey etc., not because I don't believe quality results can't be achieved there, but because I didn't want to take the risk and conduct an extra level of due diligence with respect to many of the practices and I was willing to pay $ for that peace of mind. Notes on my Consults During my consult with Dr. Lindsay I felt like he just didn't think I needed a procedure yet. He cited 1200 grafts and it was all relatively cursory. So not a fit for me Dr. Bernstein was a good consult (worth the cost) where I learned a bit and I felt comfortable with him and his work, but ultimately I wasn't blown away by the results I've seen from him either on his website or on this and other forums My consult with Bloxham was really terrific and I got a great feeling from him. He was ultimately my #2 but I did not choose him mostly because he is just relatively newer with fewer posted results. And right or wrong, some of the (rare/older) negative comments about customer service/interactions from Feller put me off. I did NOT have any of this sense from Dr. Bloxham and have never met Feller but the posts are there nonetheless. I will also say, they need to upgrade their facility. Not the medical side hopefully, but the rest of the place was old and run down feeling. Dr. Nadimi was also great (via Skype) and matter of fact but I got the sense she did more FUE than FUT. Similar to Bloxham there are just fewer patient accounts out there that I could find, but based on what I've seen and this consult I was very comfortable and impressed with her Why Cooley Ultimately, I went with the only doctor I didn't meet/ have a convo with directly in Dr. Cooley. I appreciated the consult with Lollie and a deeper understanding of their procedures and liked what I heard about use of Acell, how he preserved grafts out of body, his hands on approach, the tenure of his techs, and so on. But most importantly Cooley's track record of consistent results and patient experiences tipped me over (including one detailed repair write-up by a Blonde haired individual, of which there are relatively few results). I also literally did not find a single negative review (of outcomes) for Cooley in all my research and I valued that apparent consistency. Procedure - Why FUT I knew I wanted FUT as I (a) already had a scar I felt could be improved, (b) wanted to maximize future grafts and survivability, and (c) wanted to minimize recovery time. I am lucky enough to have a lot of Donor and existing hair that can be used to hide a procedure. Pre-Procedure and Day of All things posted about Cooley experiences were true for me. I followed pre-op instructions for scalp laxity. I think this helped as I could feel the sides definitely loosen up, and while the back still felt tight Cooley said it was great and helped with suturing (+ sutures out at 2 weeks vs. 3 weeks). The hotel they set you up in is excellent, easy, convenient and they already know why you are there and what you need. Shuttle drivers, check-in staff, and others there were helpful and discrete and the breakfast and gym is open early enough for day of eating and a last workout. On the day of the operation we met at 7am, had a calm and not rushed discussion where any other questions I had were answered, and re-affirmed my choice of 2500 FUT + PRP/Acell. In terms of hairline we were on the same page to opt for a conservative/mature hairline though Cooley jumped straight to the need for work on the temples which he said he does not always do. This process of agreeing on this was FAST as a lot of it was bridging existing hair and the past work plus a little bit of pulling temples out/down. In terms of PRP, Cooley was candid that for me he didn't know if PRP would make much of a difference as he didn't see a ton of minituraization but (a) I'm paranoid and think there is more than there is/I have very fine hair already, and (b) I am hopeful that it will help somewhat with avoiding shock loss or speeding up recovery. I know there's no real scientific evidence to back that up, but I was willing to spend the $ on the chance it helps. I will say that to make sure you get what you need before surgery begins you should 100% come prepared with your questions. For example in my consult with Bloxham he indicated that my past FUT scar had a small area branching into the danger zone for donor and advised forking the scar near my ear. I really did NOT want to do this, so asked Cooley about it. He decided to implant 10-15 hairs in the end of the old scar as part of the procedure and end the new scar in a safer location. I do not think we would have ultimately done this if I had not asked. H/T to Bloxham for noticing it in a really thorough, caring consult. I also asked about a few grafts poorly placed in the front of my forehead below the 7CM mark we agreed to for the new hairline. He said if I was OK With it that he would remove those with electrolysis which I agreed to and am relieved about as they were definitely not natural looking. Overall, it was a good conversation. I, like most others, felt comfortable and cared for by Dr. Cooley and all of his other wonderful team members. I do think the clinic could get better about having all their pre and post op documentation organized and sent in a big PDF but that's super minor overall and has nothing to do with the in-person interactions I had. One other area that I felt could be improved is in discussing recovery times. The clinic (not Cooley himself) were fairly aggressive in terms of discussing post HT recovery periods and timeline (no redness 5 days, not visible procedure at 8 days etc). It's not that they are totally off, it's just that they are definitely giving the aggressive, "best-case" scenario in my opinion and shaded this as an absolute vs. discussing the potential ranges of recovery times based on patient characteristics. Still thus far in my case it has proven to not be too far off the mark so far (devil's always in the details though isn't it). Procedure itself From the Cooley consult we moved into the procedure. Numbing/valium etc was painless. Unlike others I don't think I really went fully under for the ENTIRE duration of the procedure, I even heard a nice little "ripping" type sound on removal, but no pain whatsoever. By 11:30 the donor was removed, there were 5-6 technicians on the microscopes, I had had PRP and he had done the few electrolysis removals needed. I stopped for lunch and then we carried on. Cooley performed all of the donor incisions, with Brandi hovering nearby, and was present for probably 90% of the graft placement. I know for sure he was doing all the immediate hairline grafts. I believe he left for a little over an hour in the middle of the procedure (basically the length of a movie), but I'm not 100% on whether he popped his head in a few times during that time or not. While he was not actively working on my head Brandi was performing graft placement and I believe Amy also worked on placing grafts. Cooley returned and was essentially there the rest of the day long after many of the other techs had left post dissecting the grafts (easily 4-5+ more hours). It was clear he reviewed and had ample time to change, correct, or ensure any grafts not placed with him in the room were to his liking. Like others have mentioned it was clear throughout the day that this was a well-oiled machine, with team members that had worked together for years (decades even). Everyone was friendly and taking a dedicated and personalized approach to the operation, and I couldn't imagine going somewhere with a doctor doing multiple ops in a day. Throughout the process Brandi was constantly checking Cooley and making sure anything "controversial" about his approach was discussed (a few graft placements here and there, reminders about how many grafts were left etc). All of this was reassuring. I am sure the reverse also happened. Ultimately for the 2,500 graft procedure Cooley was able to get over 3,000 grafts (I will get exact counts later) and we did not finish the day until a bit after 7pm, meaning I was there for nearly 12 hours. This extra time and attention, plus the grafts that were not something I had to pay extra for, all speak to his long-running record of caring about his patients and working tirelessly to get results. I am obviously grateful for this. Post Op - Healing, Pain, and Experience (Week 1) Donor got painful at the end of the day during the operation so I was numbed up again before I went home. I was obviously a bit red and beat up but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting and they had already done a pretty good job cleaning a lot of the blood off. Plus I was wearing Saran wrap + a hat so able to avoid any weird looks. On night 1 I took some Tylenol but nothing stronger--which is good because I didn't get the prescriptions until day-of for stronger meds. Cooley's post-op care uses an ATP spray + saran wrap to increase moisture and prevent any graft damage and antibiotic ointment on the donor scar. You basically spray every hour you are awake and wake up and spray every 2 hours for the first 2 nights along with taking some preventative Prednisone for swelling. I followed the instructions religiously here and I think it really helped calm redness and speed healing. On night 2 I was falling back asleep pretty quickly so it didn't feel too onerous to keep getting up. For sure it kept the itchiness to a real minimum in the first 6 days. I went back the next morning for a post-op clean and got the all good from Dr. Cooley. During this cleaning Amy took time to answer any questions I had about the next week of care and was patient with what I am sure are the same questions everyone asks. In terms of the documentation they gave me to follow, I actually think it could have been a bit more detailed. It wasn't that it was bad, but I felt like an "FAQ" or just more exhaustive detail would have helped. For example, I asked about caffeine / alcohol / ibuprofen which were not listed (Cooley says moderate amounts of both are fine), and it doesn't give you much about how to sleep (when can you sleep sidweays on the grafts) and so on. To give you a sense of how smooth this was, I drove almost 7 hours home the very next day, which was completely fine and painless. Overall I found the post-op regimen easy to follow, the spray and saran wrap seemingly very effective even if I did probably use it too quickly/aggressively to try to get it through the native hair as I ran out a day or two earlier than I think the clinic expects. One curious thing with post-op care from the clinic is that it seems that Cooley's overall instructions,are more aggressive than many other docs (like the timeline to shampoo (next day) and return to regular shampooing (7 days) . I'm sure this is because Cooley is confident in the healing/quality of the grafts and incisions etc and has refined his approach over time but it does make me just a little nervous when looking at the instructions online from so many other places that are much more conservative. But he's my doc and I'm in his hands and so far so good. On night 3 I slept poorly but not really due to pain, I think I just missed exercise. On night 4 and 5 I had more pain when putting the back of my head on pillows (I slept elevated with an inflatable travel pillow partially inflated these nights to help with any potential swelling) and I did take a valium one night and the other pain killer + tylenol combo prescribed drug the fifth night. It almost felt like the donor was a little more stretched these two nights with whatever position I could find that didnt have too much pressure. If this continues I'll call the office to make sure it's normal. Some posters here have mentioned this as the return of nerve sensation but I'm not sure. Otherwise I have had some very very minor swelling which made me break out some ice on my forehead and eye area a couple of times and take ibuprofen periodically as well. It was never uncomfortable or especially noticeable to anyone else however. Last point, I am using the Hair Shake protein. I don't really think it'll do much but I've used protein powder a lot anyway so I don't mind and if it helps at all with speed of growth or minimization of shock-loss, then it's worth a couple months of it for me. I am not planning on using it long term and no one at the Cooley office actually mentioned it directly despite having it stocked there and having it listed as an optional part of the post-op procedure. Post Op Appearance - First Week The scar in the back is perhaps slightly visible with wet hair (first 3-4 days) but completely hidden with normal dry hair. As mentioned it wasn't giving me much trouble the first 3-4 days, although of course everything felt really "tight" there. At night or with pressure on it day 5-6 it actually has felt a bit worse and I've taken some of the prescribed meds just to make sure I get decent enough sleep. We will see of course on final healing and appearance, it is early days. Redness in the recipient has subsided each day, and now at day 6 is not bad at all. It's probably worse in the pictures than in real life. I am fairly pale skinned but had a deep tan going which some say can help. There is definitely scabbing, it is super mild/light and looks like when I return to regular shampooing and rub the grafts a bit it will easily flake off and be gone within the 7-10 day timeframe that they gave. In any case, it's really mild and not that noticeable. I have used their given shampoo and started leaving the conditioner in a bit longer which I think has helped. I have a couple spots of dried blood left but overall it's pretty clean and I haven't noticed anything remotely like grafts falling out. Really, not even many/any hairs yet. The kicker here for me is that I 100% had to hide from the world during this time because I was (a) spraying every hour and (b) couldn't style my existing hair for fear of touching/disloding existing grafts. So you could see the grafts taking hold and small stubbly hair, plus weird caked native hair that was a bit long already awkwardly plastered to my scalp. So all in all, a real lovely mess. Now had I managed this aggressively with a blow dryer on cool or if I was more comfortable touching and styling my scalp in this period I am sure I could have made it look better but I didn't want to take any risks. On Day 6 I did a bit of finger styling and with my existing hair I can make it look decent (see 1 of the pictures). Decent is not invisible however. The temples are harder to disguise and any close inspection things are definitely still visible so I feel I am very much still in hat land. To be fair, my wife says it's pretty hard to tell unless you get up close and personal already. We will see if my extended family at Day 11 notices anything. Summary of first week So far the difference from my first procedure has been remarkable. Basically instead of an immediate "oh shit what have I done" I felt more like a "I'm already looking better than I expected 12 hours later. and everything is going exactly like they said" It's nice to already feel like I made the right choice. The recovery seems to be text book according to their expectations, but I most certainly don't want to be out and about without a hat yet as it would be noticeable. The things I am worried about are (a) appearance at 10 days and masking it, (b) avoiding shock-loss as no work was done in the middle of the frontal third, and (c) continued management of the donor scar pain. All the rest is of course the standard, hurry up and wait, concerns about linear scar etc that we all have but if I can avoid shock loss I feel comfortable looking like I did for 6+ more months. I hope this is helpful and of course any feedback on the pics and actual quality of the work is welcome as well. Again, apologies on the photo quality I will get better ones from clinic later. I will try to post periodically as I hate the posts where people disappear but I also intend to try to live my life and not obsess over the progress over the next few months.
  3. Well, I'm not thinking that when I post but maybe an "unintended" consequence? 😁 Yes, his post here: no thx hairlossPA! I'm glad you asked, it is better to ask for confirmation than to assume what you read here is always correct. Where did you read that? Maybe you could direct me to the thread, I’m curious to see it. No I can’t confirm is it is true because it’s not. 😃 None of our staff were trained elsewhere. Unless, you consider doctors Hasson and Wong working alongside another doctor in the 1990's as such. What I can confirm is that on our journey to produce industry leading FUE results equal to if not better than our famous FUT results, we gathered a lot of information and data. While it is true our doctor/doctors and some select team members traveled to conferences and observed the various techniques and skills of a few prominent FUE surgeons and clinics, no training on any of our staff was performed, only observation. After all of the data was gathered, we brought home this collection of new found knowledge and developed our own FUE philosophies and techniques that we felt would produce the best results. Some doctors were more influential and maintain a closer relationship with some members of our staff. I would say doctors Devroye and Lorenzo fit that description. That is not to say some others such as Dr. Koray were not gracious and welcoming, but they had little or no influence on what we do today. Some deserved credit to the aforementioned Dr. Devroye and Lorenzo for which we are grateful but most of the credit would go to our doctors and the dedication of certain key staff members willing to research, study, practice and make the necessary commitment to prefect our FUE technique and make it their own. We would only proceed with offering FUE when we could produce FUE grafts equal to or greater than the quality of our FUT grafts. Now you just don't wake up one day and say you want to perform industry leading FUE. The extraction is only part of the equation and the years of experience with FUT play a prominent role. This case is an excellent example. How did this result turn out to be so good? Well, aside from being able to harvest perfect grafts via FUE which we will assume is a given at our clinic, the proof is in the post-op photos. Has anyone marveled at how good they are and what they reveal? Precise control of angle, direction and orientation of the transplanted grafts. Every hair lines up parallel with the others. High uniform density. Look closely at other post-op shots ( if anyone will show this clarity) and compare. You may look long and wide to try and find a replica elsewhere. Do you think some clinics don’t have the right camera to take clear close-up shots that have this detail? Or, would this type of transparency and compare expose the fact that the level of refinement is quite different? You decide. Besides the unquestioned skill of the surgeon and staff, technique, attention to the finest detail and artistry are all necessary in producing this kind of result. Let's also give credit to the lateral slit (inventor Dr. Wong) and the custom sized blade cutting device ( inventor Dr. Hasson). And hairline design you say? Very important, as always and thank you for recognizing it! I think hairline design can often be an overlooked component. Without a great design, the result will suffer no matter how good the grafts are and how well they are planted. And thank you to all who care to take notice all of these components that are necessary to produce the best result! Thank you for the comment and question MarkyH!
  4. This Vancouver area patient in his late 20’s came to Hasson & Wong in order to restore his thinning receded hairline. Dr. Hasson and his team successfully rebuilt a new lower hairline and added density to the necessary areas of the frontal zone. 3462 grafts were harvested over a two-day FUE procedure. 844 of these grafts were singles, and 2618 were doubles. These photos were taken approximately 12 months post-op.
  5. Hasson and Wong are fantastic at FUE take a look at @SprayPaint his results are absolutely remarkable and also @Legend007 As for Dr. Baubac, I really can't say anything about him, as I don't know his work personally. Some other posters have brought up some concerns, you may want to look in to it a bit further.
  6. Thank you for putting things in perspective again, truly appreciate your perspective here, I am not doing anything rash, all in all things still look good and I will certainly approach visit with Dr. Rahal with an open mind. I am trying to be a bit wise here and think about my appearance from a long term perspective, to try and put things in perspective for you guys, i did not get a huge amount of grafs (less than 2k), so at this point I would like to remove the thick spaced out hairs that are at the very front that are not too too far away from my real hair line anyways ONLY IF there is no downside to this procedure, I am also trying to book with Hasson and Wong for a consultation to get a second opinion.
  7. Thanks for the comments guys! Yes, see below. Thanks yesplease, I agree that the hairline and frontal zone look great! To expand on the mid-scalp comment: The mid-scalp was not addressed in the procedure and yes, he is combing the hair strategically to achieve the best coverage. He started medication shortly after his procedure. The agreed up plan was to restore the frontal zone and see how much meds could improve the mid-scalp and crown. Dr. Hasson noted he did see improvement at the time these photos were taken and the patient will continue the medication to see what degree of improvement continues. He will reevaluate at some stage and if the improvement is not sufficient enough to make him happy, he will have the option to add some density to the mid-scalp where necessary with a smaller 2nd session. I think it is always best to style the hair in such a manner that will provide the best cosmetic benefit. I’ve seen some patients part, comb or style the hair in an unflattering manner which actually does a disservice to their appearance versus what the proper style would do for their look. It is a personal call of course but I will interject in some cases where I feel the hair styling police is needed 😊 . This patient has chosen to style his hair in the most flattering manor to hide some slight mid-scalp weakness. If he wants bulletproof, we can do that too😊
  8. I think it looks good, there’s also still plenty of time to mature. In the event, you’re not satisfied I’m sure Dr. Hasson will back you up. I think you’ll be happy though, man I would with your hair 😜
  9. After going to great lengths to cosmetically conceal my hair loss, I've began to seriously look at HT's. I wanted to consult with the forum here to see what is realistically possible for high Norwood cases. I've been letting hair loss really get me down and I would be happy with even moderate coverage to use hair fibers with. NW6 - Pics included in a prior thread. Standard NW6 pattern but I have many miniaturized hairs on my crown. I'm managing my expectations of what I could realistically expect even with maxing out my donor. My donor hair is somewhere between thick and fine and hard to categorize. It is curly when grown out. I have never taken medication for hair loss. I'm not entirely sure what Fin, Min, etc. could even do for me as I have been bald for 6+ years. I would of course be open to starting Fin, Min, etc. prior / following a HT at the request of the Dr and would include supplemental things like Dermarolling and Nizirol Shampoo, etc. as well. It appears that for advanced hair loss, that FUT is the preferred method for the initial transplant, followed by FUE down the line. With that being said, I am looking primarily at clinics in Turkey due to my budget. It appears that all perform only FUE. The FUT scar doesn't bother me as I've never cut my hair short. On the opposite end, I would be open to having a large FUE to achieve moderate density all over, and have SMP after for a density fill in. Questions: Could I achieve identical results with a large session FUE? (5,000+ grafts) as opposed to FUT? Ideally, I'd love to have a large FUT performed by Hasson & Wong for optimal results, but they are a bit outside of my budget! What clinics in Turkey are the best for transformative cases? I've seen some promising results from Erdogan, Eugenix, and Dr. Cinik on the forum, but wasn't sure if there was a general consensus.
  10. I’m really having a tough time deciding. Hasson and Wong responded and said 2k fue which means $16k. They also said I could do fut which would be $10k. Flight would be around $400. Dr. Keser said 1k fue which means $3.5k +$1k (flight) = $4.5k Dr. Bloxham suggested around 1k fut 1,100-1,250: $8,250 1,300-1,500: $8,800 1,600-1,750: $9,750 2,000-2,250: $10,750 those are his prices about the same as Hassan and Wong for fut. no flight for him since I’m 30min away.
  11. This Vancouver-area patient in his mid-30’s came to Hasson & Wong in order to address his thinning hairline and frontal zone. Dr. Hasson and his team successfully harvested 3,000 grafts during a single FUE procedure to rebuild a new hairline and add density to the frontal zone. 300 of these grafts were singles, 1357 were doubles and 1343 were 3-4 hair grafts. His donor density was good and hair texture about average. These photos were taken approximately 13 months post-op.
  12. As i stated at the onset of this thread, i had a skype consult with Dr. Wong and felt very good about it. However, after waiting this long, a video consult just wont cut it. Plus, i am curious to meet Dr. Hasson also, and he doesn't do video consults. Booked a consult with both. Flying from New York. Their rep, Chris, was very helpful in working with me so i could see them both same day. I have no doubt Dr. Konior is great, and we have emailed back and forth, but the guy is just so freaking busy. Getting a consult can be hard enough. I haven't closed that door, but leaning towards H & W, unless i get a really bad vibe after the in person consults. Wish me luck:-)
  13. I love the result bro, and no I don't think it looks thin at all. Looks completely natural and with a lot of maturing to come probably. I am schedule for a consultation with Dr. Hasson soon and your thread was a big motivator for me. Do you think any doctor could have done a better job than this? I don't.
  14. I had my FUT with Dr. Konior a few months ago, really great experience and enjoying some early growth. Feel free to PM if you have further questions. They both have a strong reputation for mega sessions. I'd be more inclined to go with Hasson for hairline work and Wong for crown work. I wouldn't say Hasson's results are necessarily better, but he's posted some serious home runs over the past few months.
  15. Is it a common consensus on this site that Dr. Hasson's results are significantly better and consistent than those of Dr. Wong. Bismarck had mentioned that and made me curious. Of the two, who is better at mega sessions?
  16. I had a great experience with Dr. Hasson for 6200 FUT in April.
  17. Looks like Hasson is a member of ISHRS but DR. Wong isn't. Although he received a golden follicle award from ISHRS in 2011. Is being a member of ISHRS really that big a deal?
  18. I recently had a skype interview with Dr. Wong. Nice guy, made me feel at ease, said all the right things. I felt comfortable with him, and am pretty close to booking a procedure with him. I recently googled H & W, and quite a few horror stories online. Stories about patients being double booked, surgeons disappearing during procedures, aggressive sales tactics. This is my second, and most probably, last procedure. Not sure if i will recover if i botch this by selecting the wrong surgeon. Been there, done that. I need some advice from all the wonderful people here. How are Hasson and Wong viewed in the hair transplant community? Am i in good hands? Should i stick to someone in the States? Thanks. Really counting on some feedback.
  19. Thanks Spanker! I would say any hairline placement and design in our clinic has special considerations. Bone structure and facial features play a role in addition to donor reserves and final hair loss pattern among other considerations. In this particular case if I can take you into the mind of Dr. Hasson and convey a few things he might have been thinking: The existing forelock is lower than in the typical mature male hairline but it is strong and it does not appear to be miniaturized to any material degree and looks like it will remain in the foreseeable future. His donor reserves are good and I don’t see an aggressive final hair loss pattern. If I try and restore a higher hairline, it will not blend as well with the existing level and therefore the cosmetic benefit and aesthetics will be greater with a lower hairline. I don’t see any particular long term risk with this hairline given donor reserves and projected final hair loss pattern. Even if he does progress farther than anticipated, his donor reserves will be sufficient to restore the necessary areas to support this hairline in the future. All things considered, this hairline will suit him best without putting him at future risk.
  20. @Bigjab I just sent you a PM but I'll sort of copy/paste that message here to help others. Anyway, as my friend @HLPToronto said I made an extensive research and I am a sort of mental when it comes to chose the best product or Dr. - Demirsoy, 80%+ of the cases present on here, turkish, german, italian forums are positive to very positive. He does one patient per day and perform himself the most critical parts of the surgery. Great communication with his patient advisor. Affordable. Contacted about 15 former patients privately, 14 gave an extremely positive feedback. - Bhatti, I almost went with him but lack of communication and his very bad attitude in his replies made me wait. Very low density in most of his cases. Too many marketing users everywhere, it looks all made up. Similar cost to Demirsoy. - Yaman, similar cost of the above two, very incosistent, some good job, many other bad results. He is a gamble. Can't remember if he performs the surgery about himself. Being a member of IAHRS or other associations from my understanding is just bullshit. To be members they have to pay a fee. What's the point? Being able to go to a conference once on every blue moon. On my opinion, it's purely marketing. Cinik, is one of those chep bets you can make. He is a gamble exactly like Erdogan but a least cheaper. If you are extremely tight on budget, maybe. I hate tech clinics so I am against it. I am not saying Demirsoy is the n. 1, in my opinion he is the n.1 in that price range. There are many other great surgeons that charge 5times more though. At the end of the day, my opinion is that the surgery is nothing astronomical, it's a pretty straight forward procedure, simple I would say. That is why I can't justify clinics like Hasson & Wong charging about 8times more than Demirsoy....what for!? I felt very offended when i got their quotation!!! They are good but honestly It is a mistery to me why patients go to them paying that price... Other thing, if a Doctor is recognised on this website/forum, it doesn't mean he's good if you know what I mean. Do your research, speak to real patients, that's the way. I hope it helps. Cheers
  21. This patient in his mid-20’s from the UK had researched enough to know he needed to make a trip across the pond to have Hasson and Wong address his receding hairline and thinning frontal zone. He had good donor hair on the finer side with above-average scalp laxity and decided on FUT as his extraction method of choice. Dr. Hasson and his team successfully harvested 3898 grafts during a single session. These grafts were used to rebuild a new lower hairline and address the necessary areas of the frontal zone. 1040 of these grafts were singles, 2737 were doubles and 121 were 3-4-hair grafts. These photographs were taken approximately 3 years post-op.
  22. I went to Dr. Diep, seems to gets good results (I'm only one month post op, so no personal experience). However, my donor feels a bit more abused than others I have seen. Wasn't a bad process overall though. Canada is pretty close, why don't you also check out Hasson and Wong? I chose Dr Diep for his hairline skills and familiarity with Asian hair. However, if I ever need another, I'm checking into H&W for the area behind hairline
  23. This patient in his mid-20’s came up from Seattle looking to restore his receding hairline and thinning frontal zone. He started noticing his hairline was getting weak at a relatively young age (18-19). His hair loss progressed fairly quickly and he felt it was time to address it. He had good donor hair with texture on the coarse side. While a candidate for either method, FUE was the decided choice. Dr. Hasson and his team successfully harvested 2508 grafts during a one day FUE procedure to rebuild his hairline and address the necessary areas of the frontal zone. 301 of these grafts were singles, 1522 were doubles and 685 were 3-4-hair grafts. These photos were taken approximately 13 months post-op.
  24. I haven't seen any posts by him or patients in a long while it seems. I did like his work however. If he is not, who is among the best now? Asmed seems to have taken a step down from what I can tell due to the immense volume going through there. Hasson and Wong for FUE? Konier? I'm looking at about 4k (accoring to earlier Asmed estimate).
  25. I’ve seen some homerun cases from Dr. Hasson for FUE
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