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  1. Don't think for a minute that I've forgotten what I went through. I make it a point to look at my website at least once a week just so that I don't forget what I used to look like and to remember that this is a slimey business. No, I don't know what I'll look like in ten years but I do know that I will have the same hair on top of my head as I do now. If the hair diameter gets thinner then so be it. It will still look natural because I've got coverage in the areas that matter. I wish you had asked about the ten years later issue a few days ago. A patient had come in from several years ago and he decided he wanted to get some crown work done. The crown was somewhat thin years ago but even today with the front and top done with mini/micros,( I was surprised how good it looked), he still looked natural. Same point in my case. When I first came to H&W in 2002 Dr. Wong camouflaged my old grafts in a way that once it grew out I would look like my crown was gone with a natural looking high but healthy hairline. Of course I wanted more later on but it wasn't out of necessity. It was out of narcissism. I don't know where you can get a 99% figure and then say they'd "probably semi agree". Bottom line is this though; natural FU grafts will stand on their own be it from strip or FUE. Peace, Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong Carpe Capillus!! www.HassonandWong.com www.Jotowen.com 1.800.859.2266 All statements and opinions that I share are my own and are not necessarily shared by H&W. I am not a doctor so if your head falls off it's not my fault. Go VOLS!!
  2. I agree with baldbozo, I had mine 3 months ago with Dr. Hasson and I am more than satisfied with my results so far. I have seen results from both Hasson (Futzyhead) and Wong (Joe and Jim) and I can say that I would be equally confident in selecting either. If in a year I decide to go back to fill in the crown. My decision as to which doctor will probably come down to availability at that time. Cam
  3. I had a 2500 FU session with Dr. Hasson in mid September, approx 10 weeks ago. For the first 2 weeks I was a little FREAKED OUT with the feeling of moving my eyebrows and feeling a little tension on my scalp. Also I found the feeling of Watermelon Head Sensation also a little disconcerting for the first 3 weeks. How I define Watermellon Head is the sensation I would get when laying down at night. The dullness in the back of my head made it feel bigger than it was. Initially I noticed "Walking Around Watermellon Head Syndrome" for about the first week at the longest. By the second week when I walked around my head was feeling normal. But weeks 2-3 or 4 still caused me to feel big headed when I laid down at night. For me this awkward sensation cleared up gradually each week. Each week I felt better and better. At approx 10 weeks, I would say I have about 93-95% feeling back in both the donor and recipient areas. It just keeps getting better so much so that it almost feels normal! Also regarding my scar, Dr. Hasson took a long strip from ear to ear that he termed as a narrow 1 cm strip. I figure my strip was approx 24 cm. which averages out to approx 104 FU's cm2. Before my HT, I was pretty nervous about the scar and verbalized my concerns to the good doctor. No sweat, he kept the strip on the conservative side which was fine by me. One comment about strips that I have learned. Longer Narrower More Conservative Strips Are Definately The Way To Go. I would rather go with 1 good sized session and a followup small touch up session both using narrower strips, than get too agressive on one session and risk stretchback. But hey that's me. That is one of the many reasons I decided to use Dr. Hasson becuase he is a conservative and realistic. Other important reasons that came into play is that he has done 5500 - 6000 transplants approx, as well as his artistic ability. This by the way is not an advertisement for Hasson & Wong just the facts relating to my own experience. Incidently I would have been as comfortable going with Dr. Wong, but in my case Dr. Hasson did a great result on a buddy of mine so I figured to go with him. As far as my scar goes I actually forgot to even look at it for the last week or so. When I did look at it, including redness the scar is in the 1mm area, but alot of that is redness. Today I definately noticed that the redness has faded since I last checked. As the scar gets near my ears in some places I can barely see it!! I would expect the final size of my scar without any redness to be reduced to .5-.7 of 1 mmm. Other GOOD NEWS from the scar front is that I have almost normal laxity in the back of my scalp! I can easily move my scalp on my skull and can GENTLY pinch approx 1/2 an inch of excess on the back of my scalp where the scalp is. I am really surprised how quickly it has and is healing up. In conclusion one needs to first determine conservative strip size and # of FU's that can be harvested and then decide on what objectives you will try to meet on that surgery. As a rookie I focused too much attention on my hairline objectives and not enough on what would be the utilization strategy for these FU's. Again Dr. Hasson's vast experience of doing thousands of HT's, allowed him to give me the most HONEST, REALISTIC, advice I could ever have wanted. When he first told me where he thought my hairline should be I was a little deflated, but thinking back I would rather have that feeling prior to making my decision than going with a doctor who tells you what you want to hear, puts your hairline too low with unsatisfactory density and sets you up for many a return trip. With Dr. Hasson I have the choice of getting a touch up to flatten the V's or just go with one procedure because the intitial procedure resulted in excellent density! My V is pretty broad already and I will probably give it a year or so before I decide if I want to do a little V hairline flattenning with say 700 FU's. That question though is for the future. My little guys are really starting to come in. My digital camera is broken, but I will be buying one shortly to take some picks to post on this thread for you folks. Just my opinion, sorry for rambling. I am NOT a paid advocate for Hasson & Wong. I am an extremely satisfies client of H & W. TCK
  4. HTGT, I'm 3 months post-op with Dr. Hasson (4000 grafts). My scalp is considered very tight. I did experience some tightness especially around the swelling days. Which is to be expected. The tightness substantially subsided about a month after the procedure. My scalp now feels as it did prior to the surgery, and yes I am keeping a close eye on the scar. Hasn't stretched yet. There was some numbness above the donor area. Kind of weird having complete feeling below the scar and numbness above it. All has since healed and the numbness is almost completely gone. Cam
  5. HTGT, I am not sure of this helps or not. I have had one session of plug/punch grafts and three strip surgeries. The first two with Dr. Giannotto in Pittsburgh and the last with Dr. Wong of Hasson & Wong. I have no nerve damage and full feeling returned within weeks after surgery. It seemed to take longer to get full feeling back in my scalp rather than in the donor area. My guess is if you go to an excellent strip doctor, he would take the appropriate size strip to not cause problems. That's why they check scalp laxity, to determine the size of the strip the can safely take, so as to not produce tight head which can be a contributing factor to producing a wide scar. Other than fine, I don't know how to describe my head. It is not tight by any means. Mr. T
  6. rocketmas, As of today, 11 weeks post-op for me with Dr. Hasson. The entire experience was great. Including recovery. Even with an extremely tight scalp Dr. Hasson managed to close my donor area and leave a very minimal scar. I don't know if it is his technique or the fact that they use staples, but I could not be more pleased with it. I was in your same situation. Shapiro and H&W were my final two choices as well. I thought there abilities were equal in recreating a natural hairline. The deciding factor for me was the donor scar. Because, there will be a donor scar and it is there for life. When I saw Futzy's and Joe's scar I was convinced. Maybe I didn't do enough research, and that may be true, but I really didn't see enough documentation from other doctors depicting former patients donor scars. I'm not trying to sell you on H&W I just want to make sure you covered all the bases. I have not had a procedure with Shapiro so I really can not comment on his work. Other than the fact that I think he is one of the top HT surgeons. Good luck in your decision, Cam
  7. Thanks guys. Based on many inputs I have received I have pretty much decided to go with Dr. Shapiro himself or Dr. Hasson. And I am willing to wait for mu turn with either doctors (Small price !) The decision between the two is going to be difficult and I will base it on feedback from the esteemed members, references and speaking to the doctors themselves on the following specifics : 1.) The doctors opinion on what they will do for me, in terms of hairline and frontal density. Dr. Shapiro has some good white papers on hairline work and reconstruction. 2.) The general feedback I get on hairline and frontal work skills of both these doctors. No more consideration of other doctors. Any feedback is appreciated. -Sean
  8. Being a part of the H&W team I have no problem at all recommending Dr. Shapiro. I think he is an excellent doctor and if you choose him over us you'll be sure to have a great experience and result. What is it exactly that you are looking for in an HT? Are you looking for density? Coverage? Both? Have you sent us your information or spoken with Mike, Doug, Christina or myself? Peace, Joe Tillman aka, Jotronic Hasson & Wong Carpe Capillus!! www.HassonandWong.com www.Jotowen.com 1.800.859.2266 All statements and opinions that I share are my own and are not necessarily shared by H&W. I am not a doctor so if your head falls off it's not my fault. Go VOLS!!
  9. I am a Norwood 3A. I have met many doctors and almost all have told me 1500-2000 grafts are required in the frontal and hairline region. Hairline reconstruction is requied. I am struggling on deciding between H&W and Shapiro Med group. Dr. Shapiro is only available in February. Matt is able to get me in with Dr. Charles or Dr. Keene sooner. I prefer going in for treatment in the next 2 weeks because of the coming holidays, but do want to make the best decision for my hair and go to the best. My questions : 1.) Given my needs - max 2000 grafts frontal and hairline who is a better doctor between Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong . I know that this is a tough one to answer but your opinion is valuable for me. 2.) At The Shapiro Clinic, are Dr. Charles and Dr. Keene almost as good as Dr. Shapiro ? Sorry, not "almost" but are they as good? Does anybody see compelling reasons for me to wait for my appointment with Dr. Shapiro? I am in San Jose so I will have to fly no matter whom I decide to go with. I have read this board extensively and most people seem to think H&W is the best? Thanks, folks, Sean
  10. I am a Norwood 3A. I have met many doctors and almost all have told me 1500-2000 grafts are required in the frontal and hairline region. Hairline reconstruction is requied. I am struggling on deciding between H&W and Shapiro Med group. Dr. Shapiro is only available in February. Matt is able to get me in with Dr. Charles or Dr. Keene sooner. I prefer going in for treatment in the next 2 weeks because of the coming holidays, but do want to make the best decision for my hair and go to the best. My questions : 1.) Given my needs - max 2000 grafts frontal and hairline who is a better doctor between Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong . I know that this is a tough one to answer but your opinion is valuable for me. 2.) At The Shapiro Clinic, are Dr. Charles and Dr. Keene almost as good as Dr. Shapiro ? Sorry, not "almost" but are they as good? Does anybody see compelling reasons for me to wait for my appointment with Dr. Shapiro? I am in San Jose so I will have to fly no matter whom I decide to go with. I have read this board extensively and most people seem to think H&W is the best? Thanks, folks, Sean
  11. That thread is almost two years old now. Many doctors have revised their thinking about FUE during that time (and I suspect this group includes Dr. McAndrews as well. I'd bet his current opinion on FUE is different than what you dug up). I can certainly post some FUE and strip excision donor site pictures, if you want to talk about what is more invasive. Let the public decide. I think strip excision is more invasive HANDS DOWN. I don't want to get drawn into an anti-strip rant. But your comments on FUE are lacking in logic and short on facts, and actually so was Dr. McAndrews' post, too. In fact Dr. McAndrews had no direct knowledge of FUE when he wrote that, and was commenting on what he THOUGHT that FUE was, and not what it actually is. A lot of scientists used to think the world was flat, too. A whole lot of doctors are coming around and expressing interest in FUE, over the past 2 years. Including Hasson and Wong. So you are behind the curve here. Your comment about the multibladed knife was good, it's too bad you can't recognize that the FUE procedure also represents progress over the old methods.
  12. Thanks... today is the 8th full day after the procedure. I don't count the day of, since I was not done until about 5pm (and because I was doped up, so I don't really remember that day anyway! LOL) <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1. Why did you choose on Dr. Rose? Of course, all the standard criteria came into consideration... reputation among clients and colleagues, feedback from users on this board, years of experience, IAHRS membership, etc. There were several reasons, but I think it really comes down to the fact that he was the only doctor that I got a chance to visit with in person for a consultation, and I just really liked the man personally and professionally. He came across as extremely ethical and caring, plus he agreed to see me at the last minute, which really impressed me. I had been in Tampa to have a HT done with another clinic. I thought I had done enough research, but I was wrong. It was not until I showed up that they informed me the doctor, whose reputation I had based my decision on, was no longer associated with that clinic and that someone else would be doing my HT. I canceled and immediately called Dr. Rose's office to see if he could see me for a consult. I also had email consultations with Dr. Jones in Toronto, Hasson and Wong in Vancouver, and Dr. Nusbaum in Miami. Dr. Jones came across as more interested in getting my business than assuring my needs were met. I thought Hasson and Wong wanted to go too aggressive, even after hearing that I wanted to stick to a more conservative reconstruction. Dr. Nusbaum was just the opposite of Dr. Jones. I felt like he didn't really care whether I went with him or not. I constantly was the one following up with him. Dr. Rose seemed to take a genuine interest, was not pushy, took the time to listen to my needs and desires, and was exceedingly accomodating. Plus, as I mentioned, he just struck me as a very caring, genuine person. Those are just my individual impressions, and others may have different experiences, but I am certainly happy with the choice I made. I think Dr. Rose was great, and if my experience so far is any indication of my final result, I am sure I will be thrilled beyond my expectations. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>2. Have you seen any patients in person, who had the procedure done with him ? If so, how did their density or coverage look? No, I did not get a chance to see any previous patients in person, but I did look at photos and testimonials from previous patients (particularly Vocor1 on this site) and I was satisfied that I would be happy with the result. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Everyone, 3. Recently i was talking to a guy who had the procedure done by a recommended doctor on this website, he claims he had a "severe" pain during operation and also the pain persisted for about 10 days on his scalp - I asked if he had any issues, infections, etc., he said 'no' what do you guys think? Throughout the entire experience, my pain and other side effects have been far LESS than I expected. I have had no swelling whatsoever, so far no shock loss, no infections, only very mild pain in the donor area, no pain whatsoever in the recipient area. I know each person has a unique experience, but I think anyone who goes to a highly skilled doctor should have an experience more similar to mine than what you are describing above.
  13. DR.Hasson didn't think the temple work would look good on me because of my donor hair -- I was so tired when he was talking about it I really can't remember still. I basically put myself in his hands.The small statement Dr.Hasson made when he was doing incision sites --when he said " Now where getting somewhere" thats when I knew everything was going to look alot better. I'm 3 days post op today ---No swelling at all,pain in donor area is none and the only problem i've had so far is the itchy head symptoms. I've been spraying graftcyte every 1/2 hr to an hour when i'm awake and thats helping.
  14. I was a 5A before my 2nd procedure done last year by Dr.Brad Limmer. I had 1500 or so FU's done with him --I say or so because NOBODY ACTUALLY COUNTED !!!! Anyway the coverage I got last year was ok for a first session of FU's but my right side on my hairline was way off and I didn't like it at all. I really wanted to get some temple work done but Dr.Hasson didn't recommend it at all. So we went to the beef up the hairline and even it out and coverage thruout.
  15. Picture of 2669 FU's done by Dr.Hasson on 5/8/03 [This message was edited by pdm68 on May 10, 2003 at 08:21 AM.]
  16. Picture of 2669 FU's done by Dr.Hasson on 5/8/03 [This message was edited by pdm68 on May 10, 2003 at 08:21 AM.]
  17. Fabe ; I've looked at Dr. Feller (I would use him),Dr. True (I wouldn't use him because they won't return calls or emails),Dr Ivan Cohen ( I wouldn't use him because of past experience and he STILL Uses Micro/Mini's),Dr.Bernstein ( I wouldn't use him due to price and only does small passes of hair ---you'll need more procedures with them),Dr. Beehner (I wouldn't use him because of mini/mico usage and prices)--If I were you I'd choose Dr.Feller because he's aggressive enough and cost wise is good. Better yet Fabe I would get on a plane and go to Dr.Cole in Atlanta or Hasson&Wong in Vancouver --
  18. Fabe ; You seem like you have an INTEREST in Dr.Pastone for some reason ?? I've read a few of your posts and Dr.Feller answered questions for you concerning your hairloss pretty straightforward. Now the huge infatuation with Dr. Pastone and his practice and the defending of him when nobody is questioning him. I'll give you my 2 cents ...after seeing his work in the few pictures seen on here and his site ....I'm hardly impressed AT ALL. But that's only me. It seems like you have alot of other choices in doctors and would be wise in seeking the best fit for YOU. Myself I'm flying from NYC to Seattle next week and driving to Vancouver for a session with Dr.Hasson. Pictures to follow.
  19. Hi Folks, I am back in Cleveland after receiving 3,711 grafts on Thursday with Dr. Jerry Wong at Hasson and Wong. My experinece there was like that of so many others -- excellent! The care and compassion shown by Dr. Wong, Dr. Hasson, and all the staff was just fabulous. I won't bore you with a detailed recap of my day, but will add that no one asked me to post anything here or anywhere else. I am doing this because others have done so before me and I benefited from them sharing their stories. I want to do the same for those who still face the decision on which clinic and doctor to choose. There are few places that get an unconditional recommendation from me. Hasson and Wong has just been added to that very short list! Any questions, please let me know. I'll try to get pictures up before the weekend is over. Thanks to so many of you for your support and good wishes... especially uncjim. The before and after e-mails you sent that Mike shared with me meant so much. More to follow, Mr. T [This message was edited by Mr T on April 19, 2003 at 04:55 AM.]
  20. Hi Folks, I am back in Cleveland after receiving 3,711 grafts on Thursday with Dr. Jerry Wong at Hasson and Wong. My experinece there was like that of so many others -- excellent! The care and compassion shown by Dr. Wong, Dr. Hasson, and all the staff was just fabulous. I won't bore you with a detailed recap of my day, but will add that no one asked me to post anything here or anywhere else. I am doing this because others have done so before me and I benefited from them sharing their stories. I want to do the same for those who still face the decision on which clinic and doctor to choose. There are few places that get an unconditional recommendation from me. Hasson and Wong has just been added to that very short list! Any questions, please let me know. I'll try to get pictures up before the weekend is over. Thanks to so many of you for your support and good wishes... especially uncjim. The before and after e-mails you sent that Mike shared with me meant so much. More to follow, Mr. T [This message was edited by Mr T on April 19, 2003 at 04:55 AM.]
  21. I am going for a 3rd procedure. MY first was done in 91-92 by Dr. Ivan Cohen I don't know how many mini-micro grafts he gave me --I assume they were the best thing going back then BUT I was on 22-23 years old --It's now known that someone at the age shouldn't be worked on ---I had a 1500 FU procedure done Feb 2002 by DR.Brad Limmmer --I'm satisfied with there work but I need more hair than what there willing to do at one time and now May 8 2003 I am going to vancouver to have a procedure done by Dr.Hasson of Hasson&Wong. I've scanned these boards for years and they do some great work so hopefully I can get a good job done --I'm sure I will ---I will post my pics once I get home May 10 ----
  22. I have always been "hair conscious", as in being able to tell a toupe, etc. I remember as a kid, my dad and I would ocasionally connect on who was wearing one. No matter how good, it's always the temple recession that gave it away, as the line was too low in comparison. Recently, at my daughter's college "Parent's Weekend", I spotted two guys with just awful HTs. My heart went out to them. Absolutley, they would have been better off without the work. What I'm leading to is my meeting Jo and Futzy, the night before my surgery. In answer to Rugby's post, Futzyhead's work is undetetectable. I saw him in various lights and angles. Without question, he was an excellent candidate. He has excellent hair quality, he had a "virgin scalp" and he chose a great surgeon, in Dr.Hasson. While not all are fortunate to have all of the above, Futzy is not rare. Wonderful (and life changing) results can come from an HT.
  23. I have finally made up my mind and decided that I need and want another surgery.I chose Hasson&Wong and I will be flying to Seattle 2/24 for a 2/25 procedure with Dr.Hasson.I plan on getting 2500 FU's this time.
  24. I have finally made up my mind and decided that I need and want another surgery.I chose Hasson&Wong and I will be flying to Seattle 2/24 for a 2/25 procedure with Dr.Hasson.I plan on getting 2500 FU's this time.
  25. Here are some pics --Man there hard to take yourself ---Anyway here goes --- Anyway I would consider myself a nw5 --I had an unknown amount of mini - micro grafts when I was 22 years old by Dr.Ivan Cohen ( The Before Pic ) ---Anyway it wasan't many grafts as you can tell even tough my hair loss increased since. I came upon this site and read about Follicular Units and read and about all of the recommended docs they had online. To be totally honest I chose Dr.Limmer because of his pricing schedule. I understood that he utilized the stick and place method and that a tech would do most of the work.I had my session on 2/11/02 --I flew from Hartford to San Antonio and met the next morning with Dr.Limmer. He is a very nice man and explained and answered any question that I asked. As I stated Dr.Limmer's planters as there called did most of the work. Dr.Limmer was in and out of the room and withing speaking distance 95% of the procedure. He even gave me a ride back to my hotel when the shuttle tried to pick me up at the wrong entrance. All in all it was a good experience at the time.I had about 1500-1550 FU's placed.I also started propecia the same day and have been on it since. Now since hindsite is 20/20 I would have chosen to have a bigger session done. Being Norwood 5 and needing at least 4000-5000 fu's to mask my hair loss I would have chosen a bigger session. I am a prison guard for the state of CT and my income depends on overtime --I didn't at the time have 8K to shell out --- I am now looking to possibly use Hasson&Wong for my next session.I really like the way they design there hairlines and if I am going to shell out this much money I want to look the best I possibly could. [This message was edited by pdm68 on February 06, 2003 at 08:32 AM.]
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