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  1. Zerro, i had a second procedure only 10 months after my first, i was hoping to retain most of my Transplant hair from the first but i didnt, probably lost 70% with large areas, i think its because Dr. Hasson dense packed everything so tight (i hope) that it caused major shockloss, right now im looking very freakish so i wear a hat always, just be prepared for the worst and hope for the best
  2. Hey thanks Pat... you the man. Like I was afraid of, you and DR. Hasson answered my question. Again, the same explanation I received from Dr. Haber. He said it was my option, but ideally, I should cut it short. I have to be back in the classroom in the fall so, I was hoping for a different answer, which I pretty much new wasn't going to happen. It's to bad that we have to take two steps back before we can take three steps forward. However, that's great news about a previous Ht. Short hair I can accept, spots where it has fallen out I can't. I've read the second procedure may take a little bit longer to start growing. Had that been your experience? Any way, thanks for the quick reply.
  3. Zerro, Since your transplanted hair is strong it will tend to be much more resistant to shock fall out than thinning hair. In any case, any fall out of the transplanted hair would be temporary. As to cutting your hair short in the recipient area, Dr. Hasson provided an excellent explanation as to why he recommends that patients do this in order to get optimal results. To view this thread and its photos, click here. Best wishes for your second procedure. P.S. Who is your surgeon?
  4. Johnnie, Thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough post about your experience. I think it does illustrate how a patient's perception of their results can vary over time. I think it is fairly common for patients to second guess themselves and their surgeons following surgery, especially before their new hair has begun to grow. Some times this process can be agonizing and or depressing. I think its great that patients today have surgeons like Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong and other leading physicians to compare and shop. It really becomes a matter of comparing excellent to excellent and that is a great dilema to have. To me the single most important characteristic of a great hair transplant surgeon is that they CARE. Such care permeates every aspect of a surgery and seperates average from outstanding. I've known Ron Shapiro for a long time, had surgery with him, watched him many times doing surgery and I've read hundreds of emails and posts about him (which by the way I have never once censored, deleted or altered) and his commitment to the patient is 100%. No one is perfect. But we can't ask any thing more of some one than that they do every thing possible to achieve perfection. When Dr. Shapiro won the Golden Follicle Award this past Fall I had an opportunity to express my thoughts about him as did others (click here, to view these posts). I think you will see from this thread that many share your understanding of Dr. Shapiro. It would be great to see your results if you care to post them on this topic. Congratulations. Pat
  5. Well, here goes guys...got a lot to say here...hopefully it will all come out right...Take a few minutes and read it to the end.... You guys might remember my posts and my apprehension regarding my second procedure, and my questioning my results of my first procedure. To start, let's focus on the first procedure....I had in done in Jan of '05... At the time of the initial surgery, I had researched what I felt was a reasonable amount and narrowed my choices to H&W and Dr Ron Shapiro. Quite honestly, I don't remember what the tipping point was for me, both are top notch, but I eventually choose Doc. My hair is course, heavy, wiry and thick in diameter, excellent in regards to density and the appearance of fullness after surgery, yet hard to predict from a surgeons standpoint....i.e....in some cases, although a graph incision is angled perfectly, when the hair grows, the initial angle is correct as to symmetry to adjacent hairs, only to wave and change directions....making predicting the characteristics increasingly difficult...I was a NW 5v, yet my thinning was diffuse....had never used Propecia, but was using Minox 2x daily and irregularly the Hairmax laser comb. Basically, I had no hairline, and my frontal third was almost all gone minus a tuft in the frontal forelock. We decided to concentrate on creating a hairline and working back within the frontal third, ignoring the crown at this time.... The surgery went well and I was excited about the prospects....in my mind, I though that with this procedure and the minox and the other products that I was dabbling with at the time, and maybe some dermatch, I would be good to go.....I remember asking Doc after the procedure how happy he thought I would be, and he told me about an 8 out of ten, since I already have some hair. The initial downside of the procedure was the haircut.....I was basically shaved up front, and since I never told anyone I had the work done, I was stuck in a hat for 5 months....just part of the process....My donor density is slightly above average as well as my laxity, kinda tight but not bad. I didn't have the trico closure and the suture method was staples....I photographically documented daily at first, then weekly, then month by month. My staples were painful, had a lot of crust on them and always seemed inflamed. I couldn't sleep much at all for the first week or two. I actually called Doc for a refill on the vicodens, which he agreed to, apprehensively. I remember him saying that it's not common that he sees the need for this, but, during the procedure, it also required an abnormal amount of anesthetic to numb the area, and had to be reapplied frequently, so he correlated the need to hypersensitivity in the area. I found a girl to cut my hair that lives a good distance from my hometown...I remember asking her to take me in the back of the salon before I'd take off my hat...she even went as far as to make a file to document my growth....At about 7 months, I was finally able to get a haircut where all the areas could be blended....the donor had covered, and the front had grown in sufficiently....The transplanted area was thick and dense, but had some areas that concerned me....an area on one side of my hairline (approx 10-20 hairs) seemed to grow downward, and the transplanted hairs in the frontal forelock, although growing, weren't growing at the same rate of my preexisting hair. My scar was red and I got pimples on it a lot and was uncomfortable...where it commenced above my right ear it was a bit wider than in the occipital area. The thing that bothered me most is that it didn't blend at the lateral humps, therefore limiting my styling options. I was getting paranoid....Started thinking I had a yield problem, started thinking that everything had went wrong....As an aside here, no one had ever noticed that I had a transplant...I'd get comments like ."Hey, your hair looks good"' or "are you using Just for Men" and stuff like that.....but to me, it wasn't just right.... So I'm back to the forums....reading nonstop...for hours each day...Dr Shapiro is regarded as one of the best in the industry, but I was full of doubt....why wasn't my hair "perfect"? I talked with Matt on a number of occasions and he assured me that everything was fine and I just needed some fine tuning with a second procedure....but, what if that wasn't the case? I started seeing some things posted here about Dr. Shapiro that I though were questionable, only to find them deleted.....and all the buzz was H&W, on all the boards...the big sessions, the amazing one pass results. So I start thinking, hey, maybe Dr. Shapiro isn't the best one to go to anymore...maybe its H&W, maybe Shapiro's time has come and gone.....maybe he hasn't evolved and others have passed him up and he's living off reputation....a rep so strong that people don't say anything negative in a public forum in relation to him.... By now I'm doubting whether or not I should go back....I called H&W and talked with Ferkie on a number of occasions....sent him all my photos and considered booking with him....had a lot of long conversations...I even had him show the pics to Dr. Hasson...Ferkies reaction...."just as I suspected...awesome results"....Dr Hasson said the same thing....and even questioned what I expected, and if it was realistic......But I'm so paranoid now, I'm thinking its out of professional courtesy......Then, the subject of other docs come up and the tune changes.....not very much praise..... By now I'm at the juncture where I'm seriously confused...it seems the more that I learn, the less that I know for sure, I mean, how do you really know? Obviously Matt is gonna be for Dr Shapiro and Ferkie is gonna be for Dr Hasson. ************************************************************************************************* I gave all the above details and scenario to paint a picture of what I was feeling and, more importantly, how I was made to fell that way...As the industry evolves, we as patients seem to expect everything to be perfect...with the new procedures and technology, everything should always be just right ....perfect in fact....a vision in ones mind.... I chose Dr Shapiro for my second surgery. Am I glad that I did....ABSOLUTLY!!!! And here is why....Hair transplantation made simple....Harvest the donor without damage to surrounding tissue and without follicle transsection....Closure....Dr Shapiro recently posted about his views on this....Instrumentation....Shapiro uses custom cut blades.....trimming the surrounding tissue from the donor harvest as much as possible to avoid follicle damage....magnification.....10x for Shapiro,....now through this, he has created an incision that is customized to the finely trimmed graph...the 10x sorts rules out transsection....where else is there to go....incision angle, artistry, skill, experience, approach, placement ....Doc has all of them... In reference to my above concerns about my first procedure, first let me address the issue of the scar.....I told you that I had redness and discomfort....Dr Shapiro and I were talking about the suture method, staples or stitches, during my second procedure. Also, we talked about the possible reasons that could have caused my scar to be larger that anticipated. He ran through a long checklist of which I cannot remember all, but one of the factors was infection....I told him that when my staples were removed they were crusty and bled, and that it was very painful.....the pain continued after the removal along with swelling....I didn't know any better, I thought it was normal...I also used products on my donor area other than were recommended. And, on top of that, I was back at the gym lifting way too soon after surgery.......forget about not tuckin my chin; I was bustin out squats.... We had a long consult the day before my surgery and the day of the surgery....I ended up getting the trico closure and having a small section of the scar excised at the expense of a few less graphs.....Not only do I have staples, but Dr Shapiro put internal stitches to help ensure that I did not have issue again, along with the preventative measure of prescribing an antibiotic to prevent infection this time. The lateral humps just needed a slight blend and the vertex and crown were also addressed. .I spoke above about magnification....Doc uses a 10x magnification....I was even privileged to see it in action as he linked it to a screen and let me view some incisions....With the recipient area being shaved, coupled with this magnification, the incidence of transsection of native hairs is virtually eliminated....also, imo, the added magnification will help to prevent shockloss. For those of you in the know, the standard in the industry is 6x.... I sit red faced as I reflect on my doubts...The lengths that Dr Shapiro went to ensure that I get the best possible result go far and beyond what one could expect....His attention to detail, his artistry, his compassion and empathy cannot be understated....I mean, I had a great result with awesome one pass density and I'm still questioning....He is also one of the most humble and gracious men I have ever met....This may sound over the top to some, but I actually feel honored to have been afforded the privilege to have him perform my surgery......A lot of it stems from my guilt of having apprehension.... Lots of things can get twisted in an internet forum, and the slightest hint of a bad result can lead to an avalanche of criticism and doubt....I feel that I owe this to Dr. Shapiro....I owe it to him because if I can doubt him even after an excellent result considering , just due to hearsay and innuendo, what about the people who have never been affiliated with him....or had the pleasure of meeting him...or viewing his work....I know both Matt and Dr Shapiro are aware that I had my doubts and could easily have brushed me aside......instead, they went the extra mile to make sure that everything went right, that we were all on the same page this time, and that plans for the future were mapped out. I was treated with complete respect and received a world class procedure....I could include so much more, but this post is ridiculously long already..... Shapiro can and will do the big sessions, if you are a candidate.....for me, I'm glad I did mine in two.....we learned how I react to surgery, my yield, my hair characteristics, and were able to establish a base to build from......Would I like to have done the whole thing in one shot, had it come off without a hitch, no need for any fine tuning and a perfect result....yeah man.......I also wish I never lost my hair...and a 12 in. dick would be cool too.... Now, before everyone starts bustin on me saying that I'm doubting the mega session that Hasson is doing, or trying to discredit them or their clinic, I want to say that that is not the intent of this post. Nor is it what I am saying....Although I have never had work done by Dr Hasson, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to sit in his chair....In fact, the post really doesn't pertain to H&W at all...I think it's a matter of approach....We live in a fast paced world dominated by instant gratification, and the thought of one pass procedure is very appealing.....If you are a candidate for it, I say, by all means, go for it....But weigh all the options....meds, laxity, donor, future recession, hair characteristics, realistic expectations, age, ethnicity...the list goes on..... What is my intention?...Clarification....These forums are a powerful venue. I don't want to see a man of integrity, who operates at the highest level of professionalism and is at the cutting edge of his field, get an undeserved blemish on his reputation......especially if I helped to create it...or to see people doubt his skills, approach or capability. The man CARES about his patients, his reputation and his work....Its not all about the $$$...its about empathy and humility....making his patients happy and getting them back to a normal life...It hard to grasp how he relates to the pain and fear related to hair loss, because he does not suffer from it....but he does... Don't believe everything you read guys......don't believe this if ya don't wanna.....but I can promise you this, if you have surgery with Dr. Ron Shapiro, you are with one of the best, if not THE BEST, hair transplant surgeons in the world. Educate yourself fully on what to expect, and know that this is a bumpy road to say the least.... In an industry filled with scams and deception, it's refreshing to know that someone comes from the heart... To Dr Shapiro...all my respect to you...as both a physician and as a man....I'm humbled as a result of our association.
  6. Well, here goes guys...got a lot to say here...hopefully it will all come out right...Take a few minutes and read it to the end.... You guys might remember my posts and my apprehension regarding my second procedure, and my questioning my results of my first procedure. To start, let's focus on the first procedure....I had in done in Jan of '05... At the time of the initial surgery, I had researched what I felt was a reasonable amount and narrowed my choices to H&W and Dr Ron Shapiro. Quite honestly, I don't remember what the tipping point was for me, both are top notch, but I eventually choose Doc. My hair is course, heavy, wiry and thick in diameter, excellent in regards to density and the appearance of fullness after surgery, yet hard to predict from a surgeons standpoint....i.e....in some cases, although a graph incision is angled perfectly, when the hair grows, the initial angle is correct as to symmetry to adjacent hairs, only to wave and change directions....making predicting the characteristics increasingly difficult...I was a NW 5v, yet my thinning was diffuse....had never used Propecia, but was using Minox 2x daily and irregularly the Hairmax laser comb. Basically, I had no hairline, and my frontal third was almost all gone minus a tuft in the frontal forelock. We decided to concentrate on creating a hairline and working back within the frontal third, ignoring the crown at this time.... The surgery went well and I was excited about the prospects....in my mind, I though that with this procedure and the minox and the other products that I was dabbling with at the time, and maybe some dermatch, I would be good to go.....I remember asking Doc after the procedure how happy he thought I would be, and he told me about an 8 out of ten, since I already have some hair. The initial downside of the procedure was the haircut.....I was basically shaved up front, and since I never told anyone I had the work done, I was stuck in a hat for 5 months....just part of the process....My donor density is slightly above average as well as my laxity, kinda tight but not bad. I didn't have the trico closure and the suture method was staples....I photographically documented daily at first, then weekly, then month by month. My staples were painful, had a lot of crust on them and always seemed inflamed. I couldn't sleep much at all for the first week or two. I actually called Doc for a refill on the vicodens, which he agreed to, apprehensively. I remember him saying that it's not common that he sees the need for this, but, during the procedure, it also required an abnormal amount of anesthetic to numb the area, and had to be reapplied frequently, so he correlated the need to hypersensitivity in the area. I found a girl to cut my hair that lives a good distance from my hometown...I remember asking her to take me in the back of the salon before I'd take off my hat...she even went as far as to make a file to document my growth....At about 7 months, I was finally able to get a haircut where all the areas could be blended....the donor had covered, and the front had grown in sufficiently....The transplanted area was thick and dense, but had some areas that concerned me....an area on one side of my hairline (approx 10-20 hairs) seemed to grow downward, and the transplanted hairs in the frontal forelock, although growing, weren't growing at the same rate of my preexisting hair. My scar was red and I got pimples on it a lot and was uncomfortable...where it commenced above my right ear it was a bit wider than in the occipital area. The thing that bothered me most is that it didn't blend at the lateral humps, therefore limiting my styling options. I was getting paranoid....Started thinking I had a yield problem, started thinking that everything had went wrong....As an aside here, no one had ever noticed that I had a transplant...I'd get comments like ."Hey, your hair looks good"' or "are you using Just for Men" and stuff like that.....but to me, it wasn't just right.... So I'm back to the forums....reading nonstop...for hours each day...Dr Shapiro is regarded as one of the best in the industry, but I was full of doubt....why wasn't my hair "perfect"? I talked with Matt on a number of occasions and he assured me that everything was fine and I just needed some fine tuning with a second procedure....but, what if that wasn't the case? I started seeing some things posted here about Dr. Shapiro that I though were questionable, only to find them deleted.....and all the buzz was H&W, on all the boards...the big sessions, the amazing one pass results. So I start thinking, hey, maybe Dr. Shapiro isn't the best one to go to anymore...maybe its H&W, maybe Shapiro's time has come and gone.....maybe he hasn't evolved and others have passed him up and he's living off reputation....a rep so strong that people don't say anything negative in a public forum in relation to him.... By now I'm doubting whether or not I should go back....I called H&W and talked with Ferkie on a number of occasions....sent him all my photos and considered booking with him....had a lot of long conversations...I even had him show the pics to Dr. Hasson...Ferkies reaction...."just as I suspected...awesome results"....Dr Hasson said the same thing....and even questioned what I expected, and if it was realistic......But I'm so paranoid now, I'm thinking its out of professional courtesy......Then, the subject of other docs come up and the tune changes.....not very much praise..... By now I'm at the juncture where I'm seriously confused...it seems the more that I learn, the less that I know for sure, I mean, how do you really know? Obviously Matt is gonna be for Dr Shapiro and Ferkie is gonna be for Dr Hasson. ************************************************************************************************* I gave all the above details and scenario to paint a picture of what I was feeling and, more importantly, how I was made to fell that way...As the industry evolves, we as patients seem to expect everything to be perfect...with the new procedures and technology, everything should always be just right ....perfect in fact....a vision in ones mind.... I chose Dr Shapiro for my second surgery. Am I glad that I did....ABSOLUTLY!!!! And here is why....Hair transplantation made simple....Harvest the donor without damage to surrounding tissue and without follicle transsection....Closure....Dr Shapiro recently posted about his views on this....Instrumentation....Shapiro uses custom cut blades.....trimming the surrounding tissue from the donor harvest as much as possible to avoid follicle damage....magnification.....10x for Shapiro,....now through this, he has created an incision that is customized to the finely trimmed graph...the 10x sorts rules out transsection....where else is there to go....incision angle, artistry, skill, experience, approach, placement ....Doc has all of them... In reference to my above concerns about my first procedure, first let me address the issue of the scar.....I told you that I had redness and discomfort....Dr Shapiro and I were talking about the suture method, staples or stitches, during my second procedure. Also, we talked about the possible reasons that could have caused my scar to be larger that anticipated. He ran through a long checklist of which I cannot remember all, but one of the factors was infection....I told him that when my staples were removed they were crusty and bled, and that it was very painful.....the pain continued after the removal along with swelling....I didn't know any better, I thought it was normal...I also used products on my donor area other than were recommended. And, on top of that, I was back at the gym lifting way too soon after surgery.......forget about not tuckin my chin; I was bustin out squats.... We had a long consult the day before my surgery and the day of the surgery....I ended up getting the trico closure and having a small section of the scar excised at the expense of a few less graphs.....Not only do I have staples, but Dr Shapiro put internal stitches to help ensure that I did not have issue again, along with the preventative measure of prescribing an antibiotic to prevent infection this time. The lateral humps just needed a slight blend and the vertex and crown were also addressed. .I spoke above about magnification....Doc uses a 10x magnification....I was even privileged to see it in action as he linked it to a screen and let me view some incisions....With the recipient area being shaved, coupled with this magnification, the incidence of transsection of native hairs is virtually eliminated....also, imo, the added magnification will help to prevent shockloss. For those of you in the know, the standard in the industry is 6x.... I sit red faced as I reflect on my doubts...The lengths that Dr Shapiro went to ensure that I get the best possible result go far and beyond what one could expect....His attention to detail, his artistry, his compassion and empathy cannot be understated....I mean, I had a great result with awesome one pass density and I'm still questioning....He is also one of the most humble and gracious men I have ever met....This may sound over the top to some, but I actually feel honored to have been afforded the privilege to have him perform my surgery......A lot of it stems from my guilt of having apprehension.... Lots of things can get twisted in an internet forum, and the slightest hint of a bad result can lead to an avalanche of criticism and doubt....I feel that I owe this to Dr. Shapiro....I owe it to him because if I can doubt him even after an excellent result considering , just due to hearsay and innuendo, what about the people who have never been affiliated with him....or had the pleasure of meeting him...or viewing his work....I know both Matt and Dr Shapiro are aware that I had my doubts and could easily have brushed me aside......instead, they went the extra mile to make sure that everything went right, that we were all on the same page this time, and that plans for the future were mapped out. I was treated with complete respect and received a world class procedure....I could include so much more, but this post is ridiculously long already..... Shapiro can and will do the big sessions, if you are a candidate.....for me, I'm glad I did mine in two.....we learned how I react to surgery, my yield, my hair characteristics, and were able to establish a base to build from......Would I like to have done the whole thing in one shot, had it come off without a hitch, no need for any fine tuning and a perfect result....yeah man.......I also wish I never lost my hair...and a 12 in. dick would be cool too.... Now, before everyone starts bustin on me saying that I'm doubting the mega session that Hasson is doing, or trying to discredit them or their clinic, I want to say that that is not the intent of this post. Nor is it what I am saying....Although I have never had work done by Dr Hasson, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to sit in his chair....In fact, the post really doesn't pertain to H&W at all...I think it's a matter of approach....We live in a fast paced world dominated by instant gratification, and the thought of one pass procedure is very appealing.....If you are a candidate for it, I say, by all means, go for it....But weigh all the options....meds, laxity, donor, future recession, hair characteristics, realistic expectations, age, ethnicity...the list goes on..... What is my intention?...Clarification....These forums are a powerful venue. I don't want to see a man of integrity, who operates at the highest level of professionalism and is at the cutting edge of his field, get an undeserved blemish on his reputation......especially if I helped to create it...or to see people doubt his skills, approach or capability. The man CARES about his patients, his reputation and his work....Its not all about the $$$...its about empathy and humility....making his patients happy and getting them back to a normal life...It hard to grasp how he relates to the pain and fear related to hair loss, because he does not suffer from it....but he does... Don't believe everything you read guys......don't believe this if ya don't wanna.....but I can promise you this, if you have surgery with Dr. Ron Shapiro, you are with one of the best, if not THE BEST, hair transplant surgeons in the world. Educate yourself fully on what to expect, and know that this is a bumpy road to say the least.... In an industry filled with scams and deception, it's refreshing to know that someone comes from the heart... To Dr Shapiro...all my respect to you...as both a physician and as a man....I'm humbled as a result of our association.
  7. Thanks, Hairbank. I definitely won't return to Bosley for another procedure; however, I'm interested to hear what the doctor has to say about the results. I just hope that I still have enough donor hair left for future procedures with Dr. Keene, Dr. Wong, Dr. Hasson, or Dr. Shapiro.
  8. I had another procedure with Dr. Hasson on 4/5/06. It was 3rd procedure altogether, but my second with Dr. Hasson. A 14" (Wow!) incision produced 2230 grafts, which were all placed in the front & on top, none in the temples or crown. Donor area is still tight & tender. I needed more pain pills than they gave me to take home. Like I said 5 years ago, I'll post pictures eventually. Now I do have a digital camera. It has been so long since I have posted, I had to re-register.
  9. Spursman: Many Thanks! jagdish: Thanks! I plan on continuing my efforts physically over the next three months rather aggressively. I'm 180 now and want to get down to a lean 165. Doing this for my 20 year class reunion coming up. To answer your question about my wieght loss...I first got my eating habits in check. Cut out all soda...drank much more water. Stopped eating after 6pm...which used to include pizza. I drastically reduced my Carb intake. (I gave Mike more shit on that, than I'm sure he wanted..ha ha) Increased my protien souces to replace what I'd givin up in carbs somewhat. Then, I rode my Cardio-bike for 10-20 min, three times a week. At first I just kept the level at its lowest point...my goal was to get off my lazy fat ass and "DO SOMETHING". After a short while, my body "wanted more". The picture shows me at my fattest...218lbs. I dropped down to 183 in seven months. Consistency was key! Pat: Thats a bold statement! I'm humbled to have been so fortunate as to have Dr.Hasson help put me in such a category. Thanks for the compliment!
  10. I had the opportunity to visit Mike Ferko of Hasson & Wong. He was taken back a bit by my appearance in person, since he hasn't seen me since my 1st procedure in September of 2004. At that time, I was in the chair. Seattle is a wonderful place to visit and I hope to do that again sometime soon. Mike was great to hang out with. That man is one busy guy! I got to meet a couple of guys from the forums....guys I used to research before I took the leap into the brotherhood of HT's. I met Rugger....great guy! Funny as hell! And Jupiter69 I think...anyway...this guy looks phenominal in person! I could not for the life of me FIND HIS SCAR !!! He had the Tri-Closure technique and it looks awesome. Another great guy all around. I got my workout in...and my hair cut and for the first time in 15 years...highlighted. I'll update my website soon, but check out my hair after the haircut and highlight. And a big thanks to Dr.Hasson! You changed my life!
  11. I had the opportunity to visit Mike Ferko of Hasson & Wong. He was taken back a bit by my appearance in person, since he hasn't seen me since my 1st procedure in September of 2004. At that time, I was in the chair. Seattle is a wonderful place to visit and I hope to do that again sometime soon. Mike was great to hang out with. That man is one busy guy! I got to meet a couple of guys from the forums....guys I used to research before I took the leap into the brotherhood of HT's. I met Rugger....great guy! Funny as hell! And Jupiter69 I think...anyway...this guy looks phenominal in person! I could not for the life of me FIND HIS SCAR !!! He had the Tri-Closure technique and it looks awesome. Another great guy all around. I got my workout in...and my hair cut and for the first time in 15 years...highlighted. I'll update my website soon, but check out my hair after the haircut and highlight. And a big thanks to Dr.Hasson! You changed my life!
  12. Yeah, he promptly "reconsidered" after Dr. Hasson mentioned legal action.
  13. Note, This thread was started by a person posting as "scarred4now" (aka "brassandstupid" on another forum). In his original post which started this topic he stated his dissatisfaction with his surgery with Dr. Hasson. This post also had a link to a website that was subsequently turned off. scarred4now then apparently reconsidered this post and his subsequent replies and changed the title of the topic to "deleted thread" and edited his complaint to read - "I am sorry this shouldn't have been posted. Had a bad night last night. this thread is deleted. site owner -- please remove the thread at one." I hope that in the future if any has complaints that they either stick to them if they are true or not make them at all. Pat
  14. P.S. Apparently as I was writing my above post Dr. Victor Hasson and scarred4now were also writing their above posts. Their posts went online ahead of my above post. In any case, I have no intention of removing this thread at this time simply because scarred4now has apparently changed his mind. He needs to be held accountable for his public allegations just as any phyician needs to be held accountable for their work. Issues, however uncomfortable, are not to be swept under the rug on this forum at anyones request. While I see that the website at www.saynotohassonandwong.com has been turned off, I think we all deserve either an explanation and or a public appology. scarred4now, if you are unhappy with your surgery or your treatment you have the right and even the duty to express this on our forum. If you are confident that your statements are accurate then stick to your guns. But if your public statements were not completely accurate then I think it is only fair that you set the record straight on this forum.
  15. This is not a simple case of hearing both sides of the story. This guy has a history. His pics are deceptive. Dr. Hasson actually flew him in after his procedure and took "clear" pics of his scar and transplant. This is all documented on the other site. Let's not re-visit this issue on this site. Pat, maybe we should just provide a link to the posts on the other site. It's not worth it to go through it all again.
  16. Yes we like to hear both sides and yes mistakes happen butttttttttt, this has been hashed over and over with this guy, his surgery was not "botched" he was not "butchered" those are lies, he begged them to do the surgery, didnt they fly you to Vancouver at their expense to check your scar and concerns, he is an emotional mess and we should try to offer support for that problem but dont blame Dr. Hasson for that, your surgery was top notch you just cant deal with the ups and downs of this, get a hold of yourself man, i wear a hat all the time too, thats the least of my problems, i hope Joe comes and tells everyone the whole story because i dont remember all of it but i know his problems were around long before he went to Hassons chair, come back with a thread titled "please help im having trouble dealing with my hairloss" and you will get way better response
  17. OK, for those of you who don't know, this guy is a previous poster on hairlosshelp.com called Brass&Stupid. I think those threads are still out there on that site if you care to look. Basically this guy was (pre-transplant) and still is an emotional basket case. I can't believe he is still trying this. The only mistake Dr. Hasson made in this case was agreeing to go forward with the transplant after the incessant begging and pleading from this guy. He actually received a beautiful mega session transplant.
  18. I am sorry this shouldn't have been posted. Had a bad night last night. this thread is deleted. site owner -- please remove the thread at one. Note, This thread was started by a person posting as "scarred4now" (aka "brassandstupid" on another forum). In his original post which started this topic he stated his dissatisfaction with his surgery with Dr. Hasson. This post also had a link to a website that was subsequently turned off. scarred4now then apparently reconsidered this post and his subsequent replies and changed the title of the topic to "deleted thread" and edited his complaint to read as shown above - "I am sorry this shouldn't have been posted. Had a bad night last night. this thread is deleted. site owner -- please remove the thread at one." I hope that in the future if any has complaints that they either stick to them if they are true or not make them at all. Pat
  19. I am sorry this shouldn't have been posted. Had a bad night last night. this thread is deleted. site owner -- please remove the thread at one. Note, This thread was started by a person posting as "scarred4now" (aka "brassandstupid" on another forum). In his original post which started this topic he stated his dissatisfaction with his surgery with Dr. Hasson. This post also had a link to a website that was subsequently turned off. scarred4now then apparently reconsidered this post and his subsequent replies and changed the title of the topic to "deleted thread" and edited his complaint to read as shown above - "I am sorry this shouldn't have been posted. Had a bad night last night. this thread is deleted. site owner -- please remove the thread at one." I hope that in the future if any has complaints that they either stick to them if they are true or not make them at all. Pat
  20. Hello Jag, this is a terrible injustice to you, all is not lost just try to move forward and get this thing fixed, many patients have faced your situation and have been able to get repaired and have a normal look again, do a google search on "hairsite" go to the forums there and look for Dr. "A" i think its Dr Arvind, he is in India, he is suppose to do repair and things, i dont know a great deal about this Dr. but do some research starting in your own backyard, my suggestion would be Hasson & Wong but maybe you could talk to Dr A, good luck, hope you find your answers
  21. I know that True & Dorin Medical Group are successfully utilizing this technique. To date the physicians I have seen use this technique successfully either through high-res photos or in-person are: Dr. Cooley of Charlotte, NC Dr. Paul Rose of Tampa, FL Drs. Hasson & Wong of Vancouver, Canada Dr. Ron Shapiro of Bloomington, MN Drs. True & Dorin of New York, NY Dr. Jeffrey Epstein of Miami, FL There are (hopefully many) more, but these are the ones that immediately come to mind. -Robert
  22. Search threads here for crown work and I believe one surgeon's name will pop up more than others...............Dr. Wong with Hasson and Wong in Vancouver, BC. Now, I'm biased, since I primarily focused on the crown for my 2nd HT and Dr. Wong did the work. View my attached Hair Loss Weblog for before and after pics. I haven't had noticeable regrowth yet, but it will give you an idea of his attention to the crown pattern and placement.
  23. I don't understand why this guy defends his doctor so much..... dude you haven't even seen the final outcome of your HT... What if only 300 out of 1600 grafts end up growing??? are you still going to kiss your doc's ass?? Why don't you wait another 5 months before you start bragging about your doctor. By the way, I am attaching the picture of one of Dr. Hasson's patients. Look at the picture, he's got about 45-50 grafts/cm2 in his hairline (only front 1/2 cm). Compare that with yours and figure out how many grafts/cm2 you got.
  24. Dhuge, Settle down. Despite what ever clubs he may belong to I believe he is doing standard follicular units, like some of the surgeons who are recommended on the Hair Transplant Network but who have not progressed to doing large ultra refined sessions that enable dense packing when appropriate. Personally my hair transplants that were done several years ago were standard follicular unit grafting. Am I happy with them - absolutely. But if I went to Dr. Shapiro today I know I would achieve greater density in less sessions along with quicker healing. Standard follicular unit work performed by a quality clinic using microscopes is just fine. But for those who want to obtain maximun density and coverage in a minimal amount of sessions, in my opinion, they should consider physicians like Drs. Hasson and Wong, Shapiro, Konior, Cooley, etc. who have this capability. I'm sure you will do just fine. But you may need to do another pass to get the density you may ultimately want. Best wishes, Pat
  25. jdlosing - Welcome to the forum. It sounds like your lost is somewhat similar to what I experienced. I started losing hair at age 23 but it was very gradual. I had my first HT at age 38 a little over a year ago. It sounds like your doing many things now to prevent future loss which is a positive. I would also recommend a scalp/hair treatment shampoo and conditioner to provide optimal "growing" conditions......search the site for Nizoral and Nioxin for starters. I tell you what I experienced regarding the above. My first HT, the surgeon I chose did not shave my head or clip very close but I only received 1200 grafts filling in an existing area so I was able to conceal the recipient site. I left my hair over 1" long in the back and it covered the donor scar no problem. I went back to work 5 days later and no one ever knew. 2nd HT..............okay, this time I received 3886 grafts mostly where I have no hair, on the crown. They also did some filling in again around existing hair. The surgeon clipped the recipient area very, very close, almost shaved. This time........I took 12 days off, the scabbing in the recipient area was gone by day 7 and I clipped the rest of my hair to about a 1/4 " to match the top..............it just looked like I got a burr(click "My Hair Loss Weblog" at the bottom of my post to see pics). I did strategically clip around the donor scar so hair was a little longer there. Other than noticing my "early summer haircut", co-workers did not suspect a thing. I work in a professional environment.....suit/tie every day.......so the hat was not an option for me. Some surgeons like to shave the recipient area................you can read a post by Dr. Victor Hasson of Hasson and Wong to help you better understand the reason. Click here to review. Good luck with your research.
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