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  1. Hi, Well i can identify with your problem cause i have the same. I was too young and stupid and had my first of three procedures at 21,22,23 which totalled 800 minni and micro's.My hairline was placed to low and i was left with a pluggy hairline and a wide donor scar from the famous Dr. Brandy. 1998 went to Dr. True and receivced 1300 graphs to try and mask the problem with a new donor area which i am told might have been taken out of the sweet spot of donor hair.Hairline is a little better but i am not happy with it.I just saw Dr. Bernstein last week who specializes in repairs and he said that i should have about 20 to 30 graphs removed and split into fut and replanted.Then maybe later on do a small session of 400 in the hairline.Also a was told that i really have no or very little donor hair left that was very upsetting I am glad i saw Brstein,It makes sense not masking the problem and try and soften it with removal or thick graphs. I feel in my opinion there are three top docs i trust for repairs. Berstein,Shaprio,and Hasson and Wong. They is hope for you just get opinions from a few docs.
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    I did them on & off, im not that good about those things, i am getting tight in the back i was told by Dr. Hasson, i will do them in the next year or two probably everyday because i want another 2000 graphs in the future if its possible (hairgreed), good luck in Vancouver, bring an umbrella it rains everyday
  3. On Saturday, February 4th dedicated physicians from across North America came together at the Charles Medical Group clinic in Boca Raton, Florida to exchange ideas about hair transplantion. This surgical workshop was sponsored by the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians to enable physicians to learn more about Ultra Refined Follicular Unit Hair Transplantation, while sharing ideas and pointers. The "Gold Standard" for hair restoration surgery has risen to an ultra refined level. The Coalition is focused on advancing this optimal procedure not only by educating the public but also members of the hair restoration profession. All members of the Coalition have demonstrated mastery at performing the new Ultra Refined Follicular Unit Hair Transplantation with excellent results. This free event was limited to a dozen attendees to maintain an intimate scale. Some of these physicians are recommended on the Hair Transplant Network and/or are members of the Coalition. All of them share a common interest in striving to provide truly cutting edge ultra refined surgical procedures to their patients. Workshop Attendees: Dr. Glenn Charles of Boca Raton - Host of the event Dr. Bernie Nusbaum of Miami and an assistant Dr. Raymond Konior of Chicago (Coalition Member) and his lead Tech Jola Dr. Vito Quatela of Rochester, NY and two of his technical assistants Dr. Alan Bauman of Boca Raton Dr. Ricardo Mejia of Jupiter, Florida Dr. Joseph Williams of Las Vegas (Coalition Member) Dr. Mark Baxa of Charolette and NYC Dr. Tony Mollura of NYC Dr. Jack Fisher of Nashville Dr. Chris Gensheff of Madison, Wisconsin John Vincent, with the National Hair Journal, also attended the event to report on it for both the Journal and their radio show. The next Coalition Weekend Live Surgery Workshop will be hosted by Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong in Vancouver this coming August. Technical issues that were discussed during the workshop include: "??Remove a safe size donor strip, while keeping the transaction of follicles to an absolute minimum by carefully removing a single elliptical donor strip. "??Close and suture the donor area under minimal tension to minimize scarring of the donor area. "??Create an overlapping ledge along the suture (Trichophytic closure) to make the donor scar virtually undetectable. "??Use ultra tiny instruments that create minimally invasive incisions as small as 0.6 mm. "??Create incisions that are orientated (laterally and or sagitally) to achieve perfectly angled and directed hair that grows in completely natural directions. Following the surgery attendees also discussed practice management issues such as how to better find and educate patients both on and offline. Attendees later attended a dinner in Boca Raton where the discussion and exchange of ideas could be continued. To see photos of the Boca Raton workshop, click here. To see highlights from the last surgical workshop that was hosted by Dr. Ron Shapiro in Minneapolis in October, click here.
  4. Big D, your indivdual makeup coupled with surgical methods will determine how fast you heal, shed scabs, lose redness, etc... 2 weeks is about the right time needed if you are unable to wear a hat after the procedure. Of course that depends on the size of your session and where the grafts are placed as well. I had a larger session, and I am pretty pale during the winter months, but my redness dissapated quickly. I think the constant application of Grafcyte spray and religiously washing my hair with Nioxin seemed to help as well. When you do your consult with Shapiro, make sure you make them aware of your concerns in regards to not shaving the top of your head. Not shaving the top can affect session size and graft orientation. Make sure you look up a great post by Dr. Victor Hasson on shaving the recipient area before you make that decision.(A MUST!) Other than that, you will be in great hands, and keep us posted. Cheers!!!!
  5. Mudpuppy, How many grafts were you and Dr. Hasson shooting for? 3000? How many days post-op are you? GuitarPlayer
  6. Message from Paul Shapiro, MD: Hi to all on the hair transplant network. I am sorry for any confusion I may have caused and would like to introduce myself. I am Paul Shapiro, MD (please call me Dr. Paul) and I am Ron Shapiro MD's younger brother. I have been a medical doctor since 1986. Prior to working with my brother I have worked in medicine specializing in Pain Management, Rehabilitation Medicine, and as a Family Doctor. I am board certified with the American Academy of Family Medicine and a Diplomate of American Academy of Pain Management. I have been following Ron's career and attending hair transplant conferences since 1995, but seriously decided to learn hair restoration surgery six years ago after moving to Minneapolis. In the past five years I have gone through intensive training, first observing Ron and his staff, next assisting with surgeries, then performing surgeries with Ron's or Dr. Rose's supervision, and finally performing surgeries on my own. I have been performing solo surgeries for the past two years. In addition to my training at Shapiro Medical Group, Ron has arranged for me to visit and observe a number of well respected hair transplant surgeons such as Victor Hassan, Jerry Cooley, and Ed Epstein. I am privileged to have such good teachers as my brother and Dr. Paul Rose. I love doing the surgeries and feel that the quality of my work is comparable to any doctors who have done surgery at Shapiro Medical Group. As many of you know, besides Dr. Paul Rose, Dr. Sharon Keen and Dr. Glen Charles have worked at Shapiro Medical Group. Due to Dr. Ron Shapiro's reputation and his busy lecturing schedule, his surgery schedule is usually full up to three months ahead of time, thus it is more difficult to schedule a surgery with him. Since I do not have any teaching obligations and do not attend as many medical meetings, my schedule is more open then my brothers. For these reasons we have a different pricing schedule for surgeries done by myself then Ron. Our pricing schedule gives patients more options while still offering them the quality of work that is a standard at Shapiro Medical Group. It will always been our policy to let the patient decide which doctor will perform their surgery and a patient can always choose to have their surgery done by my brother. I am not mentioned on our web site because we are in the process of re-writing our web site and it should be completed in the next month. At that time I will be able to post some photographs of my work on the web site. I hope this response clarifies your questions and concerns. If anyone ever wants to ask me any questions my email is pshapiromd@shapiromedical .com. Paul V. Shapiro, MD
  7. Dear Joe and H&W Team, Thanks for sharing the results of this new closure method. I think its a great breakthrough in HT and it only gets better. My only wish is that either Dr. Wong or Hasson opened an office on the East Coast of the US, I am sure we would fill up their offices. Thanks so much.
  8. Posted by Mudpuppy. Do I think Dr. Ron Shapiro is top notch? Yes Do I think Matt made a bad call on my donor? I still think so but theres no harm done Did he do it to book me for 3 procedures or for my own good? im honestly struggling with that one Do i wish i had a bigger session? Yes To sum it up i think Dr. Shapiro performed a miracle with only 2523 Graphs in front and back, it is so natural you cannot tell anything and for that im very thankful, when i see other pictures of 2500 Graphs and what they got i feel lucky that i started with Dr. Shapiro. This is a hard decision for me to change clinics for my next procedure (Really hard!!!) but i have done my research and feel confident in Dr. Hasson, im going to be more aggressive than Dr. Shapiro would have done on me by about 1 thousand Graphs or more. If my post came of as a moderator, sorry, that was not my intention. Now, as to the nature of your reply to me: You say this is about sharing your views, and for me to back off. Exactly which experience are you speaking off? The response you gave here, does not add up, period. This is what I am referring to when I said I did not like you posting crap that DIRECTLY contradicts your previous posts. In this post we have someone simply looking for information and clarification, and he has received it. BTW, How else do you think doctors learn to do HT's? They train under other (hopefully) doctors, and hone their skills that way. EVERY DOCTOR. H&W, Shapiro, Haber, Konier consults, and inumerous phone conversations with consultants. Oh,and BTW, my HT was the day before Coalition meeting hosted by Dr. Shapiro, so I was able to actually speak with several doctors as they examined me 1 day post op, along with conversing about the use of different slitting techniques that I remember very vividly. I guess I should have just left your post alone, as it is quite irrelevant, to the topic. Oh,and I don't need to defend Ron Shapiro, you have already done that in a previous post. You are certainly enititled to your opinion, but as far as doctors go, we are in agreement.
  9. MPBC, Anything other than follicular units is outdated. I wouldn't consider doing any more minigrafting. Regarding major shock loss, how much of your original hair do you have left? I wouldn't think you have much of your original hair left after four transplants. You shouldn't experience much shock loss to your transplanted hair. As Laughter's Medicine stated, geographic location shouldn't play a major role in your decision, however, there are some very fine physicians in the New York City area. Dr. Bernstein, Dr. Epstein, and Dr. True are all in the New York City area and all come highly recommended on this site. It is always wise to have more than one consult. With that being said, Hasson and Wong have a very good reputation, so you are off to a good start. GuitarPlayer
  10. This patient came to Dr. Hasson asking for restoration of his receding hairline. In one session Dr. Hasson dense packed 4200 grafts to achieve a stunning result at only 7 months post-op. In the coming months these results will continue to improve even more.
  11. This patient came to Dr. Hasson asking for restoration of his receding hairline. In one session Dr. Hasson dense packed 4200 grafts to achieve a stunning result at only 7 months post-op. In the coming months these results will continue to improve even more.
  12. Pat, Great analysis on this technique. Are there any differences between Hasson and Wong's, Dr. Epstein's, and Dr. Rose's respective techniques or are they just giving the technique different names? GuitarPlayer
  13. Thanks Doc. While I'l be on my way to a few consultations with some other Docs tomorrow, it's great hearing it from the guy who wrote the book. I did call yesterday to consult with Dr. Wong or yourself. Just a bit inconvenient for me, as it will require a trip north. I'm in a bad predicament when it comes to this issue. My job doesn't allow for any alteration in appearance in regards to hair "style", color, facial hair etc. Whie I can certainly get a leave of absence for a few months, it would put an awful lot of financial stress on me. I've waited so long to go back and do this, and the reality just struck me that it might not happen now. Couldn't be more shattered as it's been a priority. But although the truth hurts, it's refreshing for a doctor to deem it important enough to fess up the grim answer. Down deep I know that a few months will never get my hair back the way it is. I have grown out to six inches in the front and slick it backwards. Might be as much as a year's growth. This is the kind of information that makes this forum so outstanding. And rather than ignore an expert opinion in order to get the answers I want, my mind has shifted into another mode of "how to" make this approach happen. Thanks again. And another note to all those reading and especially those that have not yet gone down the road. BE CERTAIN. While baldness can play tricks on your mind, depress you, ruin your confidence and all those things, it's much worse it you end up with anything at all that's detectable. For me, my repair made me just okay for the moment, but it still eats at me that if I coud get just one mega with Dr. Hasson, I'd be back on top (pardon the bad pun).
  14. Dr. Hasson provided me with an excellent explanation as to the benefits of cutting the recipient area hair short just prior to surgery. While not all patients will be comfortable in doing this, Dr. Hasson does explain the benefits of cutting the hair short in his below explanation - "All, I originally typed this post in response to Bezane and his question to Pat regarding recipient site shaving. I feel that this is a very important issue and deserved it's own thread. Bezane, The question you ask about shaving is a good one and one that I would like to address. When you ask if it is necessary to shave the pre-existing hair before surgery- the answer is- "it depends". Depends on what? It depends on the quality of the result that you are looking for. Some patients (and doctors) will be satisfied with a less than optimal result while others will want to achieve the very best result possible. For this long term gain a patient may have to endure some inconvenience including buzzing of the recipient area. There are multiple technical factors that come into play during the creation of recipient sites and the subsequent graft placement. These include: 1.) When thinning areas are shaved down the "thinning process" takes on a different meaning. With the use of magnification it will be seen that some follicular bundles are absent (and there are wider spaces between remaining bundles) and that some bundles are significantly miniaturized. It will then be possible to place new recipient sites in the place of absent bundles and alongside miniaturized bundles to recreate the density. This can also be done in a uniform manner so that if the pre-existing hair eventually disappears, due to progression of hairloss, the transplant can still look reasonably natural. If the recipient site is not shaved the surgeon must part through the hair again and again looking for any empty spaces and trying to fill the spaces as best as possible. This is not really as exact a process but much more hit or miss. 2.) The hair exits the scalp at an exact angle. The only way to precisely match that angle is to buzz the recipient hair down (in a way similar to how ALL doctors need to shave the donor hair when taking out the donor strip). 3.) Transection of existing hair below the skin surface is possible if the incisions are not made exactly parallel to the surrounding bundles. We often see this as a "halo" type effect when performing repair procedures. 4.) When inserting grafts the technicians can easily identify the recipient sites and ensure that all sites are filled. This can be achieved with no trauma to the pre-existing hair. 5.) When hair is buzzed no manipulation of the pre-existing hair is required at all. When the hair is not shaved it needs to be combed through (hundreds of times) by the physician who makes the recipients sites and again by the technician who places the grafts into the sites. This repetitive trauma of combing through the hair again and again will result in "hair shock", a shedding of the existing hair. When this hair falls out in 2 to 3 weeks there will be a 2 to 3 month wait before it returns. Whereas if the hair were buzzed it would grow from day one 1 and keep growing. A number 3 buzz cut often will look good at 10 to 14 days post operatively and blend in with the recipient site well. Bezane, all these factors are relatively unimportant if you are trying to place to 2 or 3 hundred grafts into recipient sites however if you wish to have the ultra refined type of result that Pat Hennessey advocates, the difference will be night and day. I apologize if what I've said in any way contradicts what others have told you but I feel you should hear this from the doctors who basically developed the process you know as "ultra refined follicular grafting". I have attached photos of a patient who has undergone a mega (mega mega) session into a large area of thinning scalp- before and ten days after surgery. Hopefully my reasoning will be self explanatory. Sincerely, Victor Hasson MD"
  15. I also had to jump in on this thread here. Hey dhuge67 I think it would be wise if nothing else to have a couple consultations with other docs. I live in the Eastern PA area and travled to see Dr. Feller after other previous consultations. Dr. Feller gave me sound advise and did not pull any punches. I highly recommend traveling to Great Neck, NY and meeting him. I am 26 years old myself and had a transplant in September with Feller. 2700 grafts out of a planned 2500 procedure. It was interesting expirence and the results are starting to show. But, I can also now see where more work will be needed which is not a surprise because Feller told me this would be the case. Don't rush into getting this done! I would simply postpone with Pistone for awhile and get free consultations with Feller and True/Dorin which are both up the Jersey turnpike in NY if you live in east PA. If they give the same info that Pistone did then rock on and get the transplant. You might even decide to go with someone else instead! In conclusion I feel your pain as far as being young and bald. Its a raw deal but at least you know there are answers. Just make the right decision and in the end it will pay off. Pistone might be the next Feller or Hasson/Wong but also could be a Bosley reject *shudders*
  16. Interest in this free cutting edge ultra refined surgical presentation has been strong. But to keep the gathering from getting too crowded we tried to limit attendance to ten physicians but ended up with twelve. Some of these physicians are recommended on the Hair Transplant Network and/or are members of the Coalition. Some are not currently recommened but are being considered for recommendation on the Network. All of them share a common interest in striving to provide truly cutting edge ultra refined surgical procedures to their patients. Current attendees for the February 4th weekend workshop are listed below: Dr. Glenn Charles of Boca Raton (Coalition Member) and Host of the event Dr. Bernie Nusbaum of Miami and an assistant Dr. Ron Shapiro of Minneapolis Dr. Raymond Konior of Chicago (Coalition Member) and his lead Tech Jola Dr. Vito Quatela of Rochester, NY Dr. Alan Bauman of Boca Raton Dr. Jeff Epstein of Miami (Coalition Member) Dr. Ricardo Mejia of Jupiter, Florida Dr. Joseph Williams of Las Vegas (Coalition Member) Dr. Mark Baxa of Charolette and NYC Dr. Tony Mollura of NYC Dr. Jack Fisher of Nashville Dr. Chris Gensheff of Madison, Wisconsin I also got exciting news that Hasson and Wong would like to host the next Coalition Weekend Workshop at their clinic in Vancouver Canada this upcoming summer. I expect there will be very keene interest in this meeting. Perhaps we will even need to hire security so that the patient is not crushed by a stampede of interested physicians crowding into the surgical suite.
  17. Saw your pictures. My opinion is same as before.. Going for HT at such a young age without being on propecia = heading for disaster. Call following doctors and set a phone consultation and take their opinion. In my opinion these are the top 4 Hair Transplant surgeons, and I am sure most people will agree with me on that: Dr. Jeri Wong (Hasson and Wong) Dr. Hasson (Hasson and Wong) Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Jeffrey Epstein (Miami)
  18. "Wow" is the first word that comes to mind when I see such photos. It's really amazing how far hair transplantion has finally advanced. When I first did my session of 1,450 grafts over seven years ago this was considered a "mega session". Now it's relatively small. For so many years the promises made and the hoped for results didn't match the final out come. But its great to see patients in recent years getting the results they've hoped for and been promised. Kudos to Dr. Hasson, the patient and the whole H & W staff. Pat
  19. Hairworthy, You got a steal for $8500, especially considering your impressive results. How long ago did you have your procedure with Dr. Hasson? GuitarPlayer Hairworthy, Don't bother answering my question as I just realized that in your signature it states that you had your procedure in June of 2004. GuitarPlayer
  20. Hairworthy, You got a steal for $8500, especially considering your impressive results. How long ago did you have your procedure with Dr. Hasson? GuitarPlayer
  21. TB, you have posed an interesting question here my friend!!!!!! I think most of the members here are hesitant to endorse one doctor over another, simply because at one point several respected members began working for this or that clinic, and rabidly endorsed their doc/employer. Obviously, you can see how the internet is a powerful marketing tool, and how "shills" (as they are called here) could sway newbies one way or the other. I myself carefully combed through this website and others in order to get to "know" several ht doctors. I cannot tell you how many phone consults I had What I was looking for was an industry common, you know, information that kept comming up, over and over again, without prompting. As I would like to consider myself a pretty logical guy, several names popped out (to me) :Shapiro, H&W, Rose, Feller, and Konier. I immediately disregarded Konier, simply because his consultant (Tom, I think) refused to negotiate a reasonable price, and would not budge from almost 5.00 per graft. I personally did not have him as high as Shapiro,Hasson, or Wong,(pretty close!) but his office was the closest to my home (40 min). I then called H&W, and I was impressed by their "style" and confidence. Seeing Jotronics results helped as well. In addition, they were more than willing to negotiate a flat rate price, which really impressed me as well, as they are not hard up for customers. I felt the same about Dr. Shapiro, who seemed to be everywhere at the time. I know this is going to piss a few off, but here goes: In MY estimation, Dr. Shapiro creates the best hairlines in the entire industry, period. By that I mean his patients receive the best hairlines as individuals, not a cookie cutter template. This is not to say that a drastic difference exists between Shapiro and other dr.s, just an observation. For example, I think the best doctor in the world at one pass density is Dr. Hasson, and the best crown work is done by Dr. Wong. That does not mean each is substandard in other areas, just an observation. In addition, I am not casting dispersion on other clinics, just my opinion as an informed patient. Many long time posters feel that a HT is a last choice, and a conservative approach is best. We are not hairloss forecasters, and should keep that in mind when we embark on this journey. I had 3100 grafts done and I will go for another 3000 to 3500 in july-august. This should leave me with 1500 to 2000 for any future work that is needed. I like this approach, and that coupled with Shapiro's hairlines, made the choice easy for me. TB, ultimately, the choice is yours, so weigh all of these factors, and then make a decision and feel proud that you are joining a brotherhood of individuals that will not just accept baldness standing-up PS: I would appreciate it if anyone has any negative comments concerning this post, to please actually read it, and then read it again before you reply. Thanks
  22. JW, Just off hand I believe that while visiting clinics east of the Mississippi this summer I saw Dr. Jeff Espstein in Miami, Dr. Griffin in Atlanta, Dr. Bernstein in NYC, Dr. Haber in Cleveland, Dr. Shapiro in Minneapolis and Dr. Konior in Chicago, and Dr. Parsley in Kentucky performing trichophytic closures. No doubt others who I did not see recently are also using it, including Hasson and Wong and others. This technique has been extensively written about in the "Hair Transplant Forum", which many hair transplant surgeons read. I suspect that many more leading surgeons will be integrating it into their donor closure process. In my opinion it's a great technique and the mark of a surgeon who cares enough to take the extra time to make the linear donor scar as invisible as possible.
  23. Bobman, Forum rules stipulate that no links to outside promotional websites are allowed. This includes "membersites" from other forums since they link back to promotional content. It is for this reason that I edited your signature line. The Hair Transplant Network recently released it's all new Hair Loss Weblogs that enable patients to document and share their progress and growth in a much more robust manner than the photo albums on the forums allow. Feel free to create your own by clicking here. You can see other Hairblogs that are already up here. There is also a link to my own blog in my signature line. The Hair Loss Weblogs were built from the ground up with the sole purpose of documenting hair restoration surgery. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Congratulations on your procedure with Dr. Hasson and thanks for cooperating with forum rules. -Robert
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