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  1. Note: A codensed version of this post, but many more pictures, are found at my blog. Well, after nearly two and a half years, I finally had my second installment ordered, installed and delivered with perfection. It's hard to overestimate the thoroughness, professionalism and, of course, quality H&W deliver. Round two brought not only unexpectedly high graft numbers, but a whole new insight into the process, viewed against a backdrop of so much more research, knowledge and information on the subject. I arrived in Vancouver at around 1:30 AM Sunday. A quick ride to the Granville Island Hotel, and I was fast asleep. After a late breakfast, I perused the beautiful, engaging island. Street performers, art galleries and the incredible market place quickly consumed my afternoon. Soon thereafter, Mike Ferko, Scott and Doug Kline arrived from Seattle. We had some fun at the hotel room designing hairlines with Dermmatch. Then we went down for some appetizers and drinks, where we met Nick, who was to have surgery the next day with Dr. Wong while Dr. Hasson worked on me. We all went out to dinner at around 7 PM, joined by Jotronic and the lovely Amber. My intention in round two was twofold: 1) Refine the hairline and some of the temple angles, and 2) fill in behind the frontal third covered by HT #1. At first, Dr. Hasson predicted he'd get only about 2,500 grafts. Accordingly, he delineated an area on top that would not quite reach back as far as the crown, leaving some area uncovered. I was a bit disappointed, but Dr. Hasson said he wanted me to start on Dutastride anyhow, and was very confident that it would fortify the area not covered by surgery. Another thing that really impressed me about Dr. Hasson at this point: He told me he was less-than-satisfied with my current hairline -- critical of his own work. It takes a truly honest, self-confident, and pretty impressive person to be that self-critical. (In truth, I believe I may have done some damage to some parts of his original hairline by wearing a hairpiece after surgery #1. The frontal tape may have suffocated some of the implanted grafts.) The process began at around 7:45 AM. Dr. Hasson first consumed about 400 grafts refining the hairline. We did not shave down the existing frontal hair, as it was my intention to have a small hairpiece designed for the recipient area and, thus, appear at work as if nothing had changed. As soon as the hair grew back, I'd remove the piece and get a short haircut. Dr. Hasson then started the top area, behind the existing hairs from HT #1. Late in the afternoon, as he progressed with the incisions and the techs inserted the grafts, Dr. Hasson finally came back with the great news: We got over 3,500 grafts! So he covered the entire area on the top, and then came back and told me he had another 500 grafts left. He now wanted to shave me down up front and implant the extras up front to increase the density there. Well, I gave him a hard time about shaving down the front, considering the problems this would cause me. But my voice was quited as he pulled out the clipper and started cutting away. We both laughed and I was, of course, happy about it in the end. In all, I received another 3,537 grafts and the process ended at 8:15 PM. Dr, Hasson's incredibly talented and friendly staff helped make the experience so successful and relatively enjoyable. Particularly noteworthy were Slava, Anna, Rebbecca and Farah. And the ever-delightful Christina, of course. Above all, Dr, Hasson is the consummate professional. He is charming, funny, honest, ethical and, of course, supremely skilled.
  2. OK, Dhuge67 you threw a jab and i threw a jab, yes you have held your own since that link so lets move on, i did not do a good job of checking my facts before i slammed Dr. True, i stand corrected on him, it was an associate of his that had some bad feedback, i should not have been so harsh, i will edit my post a bit, howevvvveeeerrrr, i still stand behind the statement that Dr. Hasson then Dr. Shapiro are my only choices for surgery and thats just my own thing for my own reasons. I have no reason to bash Dr. True, it appears there is alot of positive posts on him, my mistake, guess what ill probably make a bunch more also, but if im wrong ill bow down and try to correct it.
  3. Ludicrous statement???, no here is an example of a ludicrous statement- Exact Quote from dhuge67 "The scar on the back of my head would not be a big deal to me. I'd just look like a boxer or something, with the way my physique is." There are a TON of "ludicrous statements in the link below just check them out for a great laugh, you even insulted Jotronic and said Maybe Dr. Pistone does better work than Hasson & Wong, WOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f...441017202#1441017202 Take a poll on this board and see who thinks a strip surgery on a virgin head for less than 1200 graphs is not good. As far as spellcheck and puncuation, Screw you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, hows that for PUNCTUATION?????????????????????????????????????????????????
  4. i Have edited my post to say "Completely done" with 3000, i needed many more to get where i want i have had 2 surgeries and plan for one more most likely with Dr. Hasson, my post was for Mikie, and my point was to cut you open for "1200" should be illegal i had 2523 with Shapiro, anthing else save it im not here to argue with you
  5. Mikie, start another thread and let this one fade, the original poster has moved on and its now off topic, sorry to be a downer but i hate everything about the consult you had, i wouldnt go to this Dr. if it was free, and yes ive seen pictures of his work and read some stuff on him, "Youthful appearance" is a tricky phrase i dont like it, to cut you open for 1200 graphs is "illegal" IMO, if i needed anything less than 3000 "to be completely done" i would do FUE, i would get a consult from Hasson & Wong or Shapiro in Mpls., there are many other good Docs but these are my only choices and its just my opinion, unless you decide FUE, im certainly not an expert but my advice is More research and 3 consults at least, good luck Edited: Please disregard this statement i made, it was irresponsible and a case of mistaken identity "i wouldnt go to this Dr. if it was free, and yes ive seen pictures of his work and read some stuff on him,"
  6. Look at Dr. feller's latest pic post. Flawless. While I like what I've seen from True, the statement that you'd be short changed by not checking him out, before going to Feller or elsewhere, is simply not TRUE. No pun intended. The only problem I have with Dr. True is past association with his firm Elliott & True. Man, the internet is filled with problem horror stories about that. I know for certain Dr. True regrets this and has moved on and moved up but we often have to drag our pasts around. Feller, Hasson, Shapiro just don't have those problems. I took issue with a former patient of Dr. Williams coming on here as a new member "POST surgery" and beating the drum. I will say that while it is not the case here, I do really HATE overzealous statements. And the one about making a mistake by NOT consulting TRUE, and NO SURGEON has more expertise than TRUE, and a new poster GUARANTEES results, is a turn-off. Don't you guys realize that? I think here if Pat or Jotronic "guarantees" something, it has merit. I think it would be a serious mistake in not consulting with one or two coalition memebers. And lastly I think there are a collective few coalition docs on here, THAT are the best surgeons in the world. Dr. Feller is certainly coming on strong and any conversation that doesn't at least include Hasson is INCOMPLETE. Don't have to use them, just realize that it's just the way it is. And just to clarify, I love Dr. Keene. I like her manner the best of all. But I will also say that I've had all my teeth done perfectly by a female doc, my general physician is female and awesome! My accountant is female, a business partner female, HELL!!!....my girlfriend is female! And if I decide to cheat on her....it will be with a female. But I'm certainly not going to tell you that if you don't consult with her you're doomed. She'll tell you that. I actually recommend Hasson from out west here. And until Feller came blazing through I used to tell east coasters to go to Shapiro or Rose if they were uncomfortable going Canuck.
  7. I am currently two years out from my 2750 graft single session with Doc Hasson...amazing results! My hair is fuller than when I was 30 and I am currently 52. I didn't start to lose any hair until my early to mid 40's, and I just wanted my frontal area returned to me. Doc Hasson did a wonderful job. I spent many months researching HT Doctors via this and other sites, which brought me to the conclusion that it was worth the trip from Maine to Vancouver to see Dr. Hasson. Great guy, well meaning in all respects and very good at what he does. The follow up from him in terms of "holding my hand" was first class. Anyone wishing to have a world class HT, virtually no donor scar, and naturally flowing hair that is impossible to tell was moved into place, should consult Dr. Hasson in my opinion. The Headcheese
  8. M&M: Thanks man! I thought they came out pretty good too. hairbank: I like the look more and more as well. Happy cannot begin to explain it! Dr. Hasson is truely got this thing down to a science! Happy hair growing to you my friend!
  9. Baldman,I am a good norwood 6,needing around 200 cm's replanted.Sure there are deals out there on hair tranplants,but i know i only have so much donor area to work with,so i am not going to take any chances.It is either going to be Dr.Keene,Wong/Hasson,or Dr Schpiro.IMHO,those are the best,i will not take any chances with anyone else.If you look at Wong/Hassons website you will see a gentleman that got over 5,000 grafts in one session. Here is something to work with that is from Dr.Keenes website; Thin: 10-15 grafts per square cm on average - provides contour and thinning coverage, see through in certain lighting. Moderate: 15-20 grafts per square cm on average - moderate coverage and contour. Cosmetically Dense: 30-60 grafts per square cm on average - in most cases imperceptible difference between this density and normal hair. That will give you a guide to help you calculate your desired transplant results.One rule of thumb to consider,curly hair does look thicker and after i get my transplant and has grown to a considerable healthy stage i am going to get a perm. Also,do not get multiple small sessions,the best is to sart with a megasession of 4,000 grafts mininum,i am going to go for 5,000 if i have enough donor area.If you do some research you will find that is the best way to go for your initial transplant of a larger bald area(like mine,(lol) My game plan is to get the best coverage i can with what i have until hair manipulation is sucessfully accomplished. Good luck!and remember,you do get what you pay for,i want the best and i am working and saving for it.Don't cut yourself short,>~
  10. Spoon, I would like to get some more information on this. It is my understanding that using needles to make recipient sites is inferior to the incisions made by blades. If indeed needles are superior, or produce the same results, I wonder why Dr.'s such as Shapiro, Hasson, Wong, (among a few others) do not employ them? I completely understand the concept that making an incision behind the hairline with a needle for a 2,3, or 4 hair graft should produce the same effect as a bladed incision, but why are the doctors generally regarded as the best surgeons swearing by the lateral slit in the frontal region, especially the hairline? In sifting through the material on graft placement and angulation, the main point is to ensure that each hair exists the scalp in a natural way or angle, without appearing unnatural. Of course this may come down to what instrumentation the surgeon feels comfortable with, or has been taught. I think I will do some more research on this in order to clear up any misinformation I or anyone else may be suffering under. I repost when I have some new info.
  11. Just wanted to share that I updated my pics with shots of my hair slicked back. My friends that know me and see me every day told me the photos didn't really look like I do in person. In short...they said and I agree, photos can't capture the full effect you get in person. So, I thought I'd slick my hair back as I where it most these days and have at the sun one more time. Hope you enjoy and another big thanks to Dr. Hasson, Mike Ferko, and Joe Tillman. For whom my head would be bald, or worse..."hacked" if they had not come into my life. God Bless Y'all !!!
  12. stillhere: You're welcome....and thank you. tkerr22: I agree and yes I think I can and yes I do. Pat: I haven't tried anything to thicken things up and don't really want to start now. I think Dr.Hasson did such a great job that if I had a small HT for the crown once more...that'd be it. Thanks for the compliments! dhuge67: Thank you for chimming in....
  13. Aida - I dont know much about AMHS. I haven't heard anything heard anything good or bad about this doc (other than that one guy who had bad HT from you guys and Dr. Williams got kicked out of this website), so I make my judgement based pictures you're showing on this forum. And I have to say these 4 pictures are pretty bad. I mean yeah I can see these people are not bald anymore in the after pictures, but you're showing me the pictures at an angle where patient looks his best. Believe me, you're not impressing anybody (atleast not on this forum). If you think your doc really has what it takes, then you need to show the whole truth. You need to show good pictures with clarity, different angles and closeups. Maybe you can use Dr. Hasson and Wong's website as reference. They have amazing pictures on their website. I hope my opinion helps. This is what I mean:
  14. Okay, it's been years since I had a HT and it was from Bosley, which explains my nervousness this time. I've booked with Dr. Ron Shapiro but have been going back and forth between Dr. Shapiro and Dr. Hasson of Hasson & Wong. I've consulted with both - H&W online and Shapiro over the phone. I think Matt at Shapiro is great and he took about 45 minutes with me on the phone. He wasn't pushy at all, but very helpful. H&W suggested approx. 1,000 - 1,500; Shapiro 1,000 - 2,000. (See M&M under Photo Albums to see what I currently look like). First time admitting this, but I was actually ready to book with H&W when I was 'put on hold' and then told they will call me back (while I was trying to finalize a date). End result - They never did call back, nor did they email me back, so I consulted with Shapiro and decided to go with them. As the date nears, I get nervous. I would like one final HT to make the hairline thicker and more natural. I was reading another entry that said (by Hairbank, I think) that if you are going for 3-4,000+, then you should go with H&W, otherwise, there are 5 top ones to consider. Clearly, Shapiro would fall into that category. The H&W site has much better photos shown, while Shapiro is reported to be the master of hairlines and he does not require me to shave down. Since I only have about 5 days to recover (seven with the weekend), I can't afford to have to shave my existing hair. I'd honestly rather have two smaller sessions than one larger session, if it prevented me from having to shave down. Furthermore, thanks to Bosley, I couldn't shave down without exposing prior donor scarring. Final point - I have a wedding to attend in late August. Any issues or recommended 'no later than' timelines to adhere to in order to avoid shockloss at the wedding? I'm open to feedback and suggestions. And to Pat - THANK YOU for this site!! It has certainly opened up my eyes and I intend to fully document my progress in the hope of helping others as much as I have been helped.
  15. Okay, it's been years since I had a HT and it was from Bosley, which explains my nervousness this time. I've booked with Dr. Ron Shapiro but have been going back and forth between Dr. Shapiro and Dr. Hasson of Hasson & Wong. I've consulted with both - H&W online and Shapiro over the phone. I think Matt at Shapiro is great and he took about 45 minutes with me on the phone. He wasn't pushy at all, but very helpful. H&W suggested approx. 1,000 - 1,500; Shapiro 1,000 - 2,000. (See M&M under Photo Albums to see what I currently look like). First time admitting this, but I was actually ready to book with H&W when I was 'put on hold' and then told they will call me back (while I was trying to finalize a date). End result - They never did call back, nor did they email me back, so I consulted with Shapiro and decided to go with them. As the date nears, I get nervous. I would like one final HT to make the hairline thicker and more natural. I was reading another entry that said (by Hairbank, I think) that if you are going for 3-4,000+, then you should go with H&W, otherwise, there are 5 top ones to consider. Clearly, Shapiro would fall into that category. The H&W site has much better photos shown, while Shapiro is reported to be the master of hairlines and he does not require me to shave down. Since I only have about 5 days to recover (seven with the weekend), I can't afford to have to shave my existing hair. I'd honestly rather have two smaller sessions than one larger session, if it prevented me from having to shave down. Furthermore, thanks to Bosley, I couldn't shave down without exposing prior donor scarring. Final point - I have a wedding to attend in late August. Any issues or recommended 'no later than' timelines to adhere to in order to avoid shockloss at the wedding? I'm open to feedback and suggestions. And to Pat - THANK YOU for this site!! It has certainly opened up my eyes and I intend to fully document my progress in the hope of helping others as much as I have been helped.
  16. Sure34, I appreciate you bringing your surgical experience with Dr. Elliott to my attention and to those reading this forum. I also appreciate your time on the telephone yesterday. Given your experience I have suspended Dr. Elliot's recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network. While I know that Dr. Elliot has many satisfied patients with natural looking follicular unit results - a physician/clinic needs to show a consistant and proven track record of excellent results to remain recommended on the Hair Transplant Network. This includes good judgement in patient selection and planning for long term hair loss. Perhaps I'm making an error in removing his recommendation. But when it comes to life long surgical results I feel it is neccisary to error on the side of being overly conservative. I do intend to again visit clinics in California this year. Perhaps this will include Dr. Elliot's clinic. If I can re-establish confidence in the quality of his work then perhaps his recommendation will be reactivated. Sure34, the physicians we discussed for refining your hairline (Dr. Shapiro, Dr. Keene, Dr. Hasson etc) all have the capability of giving you a subtle and natural hairline. I'm sorry about your experience to date. I do expect that in the hands of the surgeons you are considering you will be able resolve your issue. I'm also glad to hear that you have gotten on Propecia to slow or halt your hair loss. Best wishes and please keep us all posted. Pat
  17. Sure34, I appreciate you bringing your surgical experience with Dr. Elliott to my attention and to those reading this forum. I also appreciate your time on the telephone yesterday. Given your experience I have suspended Dr. Elliot's recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network. While I know that Dr. Elliot has many satisfied patients with natural looking follicular unit results - a physician/clinic needs to show a consistant and proven track record of excellent results to remain recommended on the Hair Transplant Network. This includes good judgement in patient selection and planning for long term hair loss. Perhaps I'm making an error in removing his recommendation. But when it comes to life long surgical results I feel it is neccisary to error on the side of being overly conservative. I do intend to again visit clinics in California this year. Perhaps this will include Dr. Elliot's clinic. If I can re-establish confidence in the quality of his work then perhaps his recommendation will be reactivated. Sure34, the physicians we discussed for refining your hairline (Dr. Shapiro, Dr. Keene, Dr. Hasson etc) all have the capability of giving you a subtle and natural hairline. I'm sorry about your experience to date. I do expect that in the hands of the surgeons you are considering you will be able resolve your issue. I'm also glad to hear that you have gotten on Propecia to slow or halt your hair loss. Best wishes and please keep us all posted. Pat
  18. Sure34, I appreciate you bringing your surgical experience with Dr. Elliott to my attention and to those reading this forum. I also appreciate your time on the telephone yesterday. Given your experience I have suspended Dr. Elliot's recommendation on the Hair Transplant Network. While I know that Dr. Elliot has many satisfied patients with natural looking follicular unit results - a physician/clinic needs to show a consistant and proven track record of excellent results to remain recommended on the Hair Transplant Network. This includes good judgement in patient selection and planning for long term hair loss. Perhaps I'm making an error in removing his recommendation. But when it comes to life long surgical results I feel it is neccisary to error on the side of being overly conservative. I do intend to again visit clinics in California this year. Perhaps this will include Dr. Elliot's clinic. If I can re-establish confidence in the quality of his work then perhaps his recommendation will be reactivated. Sure34, the physicians we discussed for refining your hairline (Dr. Shapiro, Dr. Keene, Dr. Hasson etc) all have the capability of giving you a subtle and natural hairline. I'm sorry about your experience to date. I do expect that in the hands of the surgeons you are considering you will be able resolve your issue. I'm also glad to hear that you have gotten on Propecia to slow or halt your hair loss. Best wishes and please keep us all posted. Pat
  19. Yeti, You know, you're asking some really common sense answers that unfortunately do not have easy answers. You've taken the first steps to finding your path with online research. This is a good thing. Your second step is realizing, like you must have already, that travel is usually necessary to find the right doc for this type of procedure due to the low number of overall qualified surgeons that are consistent with their results. To answer your questions I can only say that you need to continue with your research as you will get varied opinions from each forum member. For instance, to answer question # 1, I would say Hasson & Wong are the best but not because I work for them. I was a patient way before I decided to make this a full time endeavor. Do a search on my username for my history or do a Google search for my username to find my website. The biggest sessions, most dense packing, most coverage, best hairlines, best temple points, best crown whorls; Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong deliver consistently and you will be hard pressed to find anyone that says otherwise. Others will undoubtedly have their favorite for whatever reason but you will always find H&W on any educated consumer's list of who to at least consider as being tops. Realistic average scarring? With a top clinic, anywhere from 1mm to 3mm, depending on your physiology and how you heal. With trichophytic closure of the donor area you may receive a scar with less width than non-tricho but not by much. It does tend to help in limiting the width of scars vs. non-tricho methods but the real beauty of tricho is that you will have native donor hair growing through the scar making it extremely hard to detect. It's a great development that is a true step forward for the industry. What results can you realistically expect? That's a shot in the dark as I don't know, visually, what your hairloss is like. In general you should expect a wide variety of results from the number of docs performing HT's. The results can resemble a circus act or a Rembrandt to be completely honest. Find a doc that is CONSISTENT with his results, not just by his own presentation, but by patients sharing their stories and results. You can't ask for better info than from the patients themselves. Research, research, research. The internet is your friend if you know what to look out for. Good luck and keep us posted of your thoughts and ideas as to what you think you may do.
  20. IH, If your Norwood 5, and want to get the most bang for your buck, most will agree 2500 is a start but I'd guess you'll want about double that depending on the look you're trying to achieve. Several reasons may inhibit a more aggressive session...........density or type of donor hair and scalp laxity would be the two primary ones. You may want to ask if there are reasons he couldn't do more in the first session?? Use this graft calculator to assist you in a hair restoration estimate. I've found it to be a very useful tool. One thing to keep in mind................for the "appearance" of density, most try for 45-55 sq cm coverage...especially in the front. Depending on donor hair availability, most will shoot for 45-55 sq cm in front then taper to 25-35 sq cm toward the crown. I went to Hasson and Wong for my 2nd HT because I liked their results and they seemed to be the only one out there consistently performing the mega sessions for those who have the proper donor characteristics. I'm not bashing Dr. Epstein(I think he does excellent work) or any of the other excellent surgeons mentioned on this site...........I guess I'm merely pointing out that if you need 5000 grafts or so, and you have the laxity and donor supply (and money ), why do in 2 or 3 sessions what you can possibly achieve in one? Just a guess but at NW 5 with 2500 your coverage will be thin unless it's dense packed over a small area. What are your goals? Are you wanting total coverage? Are you thinning in the crown and if so do you care? Many things to consider and only you have the answers to the questions because it comes down to personal choice and what you want to achieve. Like B spot mentioned, it would be helpful to see some pics if you can post them. Good luck with your decision.
  21. Kamin, you have asked a very astute question! However, attempting to "rate" or "rank" surgeons individually would be counterproductive to the very premise of this forum. Sure, we all have our perceptions and beliefs, but I firmly beleive that ANY of the surgeons in the Coalition can perform ultra-refined follicular grafting and satisfy their patient. What you are asking is next to impossible simply because each person has a perspective or idea of what they are looking for: #1 results, and #2 in a doctor. For example, I personally hold that Dr. Shapiro designs the best hairlines, which is why I went to him after 2 years of research. This is my PERSONAL opinion, based on my observations and desires. Others feel that H&W are the standard right now, and yet others toss various doctors into the mix as well. What matters is the INDIVIDUAL, PERIOD. If your chosen doctor meets or exceeds your expectations, then he or she has done their job, end of story. I know after viewing countless photos and talking to people, and just "being around" that most people marvel at the naturalness of Shapiros hairlines, marvel at the one-pass density achieved by Dr. Hasson, and marvel at the crown work of Dr. Wong. Please understand, this does not mean that each of these doctors are better or worse, because that would be unfair criticism, and the hairlines and crown work of each of the doctors named above are superior, in every case, as we have seen countless times. What we need to understand is that there are doctors who hold slightly different philosophies, which come out in the treatment programs they design for individuals. Overall, I think the Coalition does a great job by offering you 20 or so doctors whose offices, surgical methods, results, and follow ups have been carefully scutinized BEFORE you (the moderately knowledgeable consumer) traipse in to get a HT. After that it is up to the individual to do extensive research and consultations before pulling the trigger. That is why it is paramount that members of this forum continue to support one another, and post their results or concerns, so that we can keep up to date on the the latest and greatest innovations, and decide what to do from there. Remember, all of this is in OUR hands, the choice is ours alone to make. I hope this helps you out, Kamin, and I hope others ring in with their opinion as well.
  22. Update: During my first two procedures I had a total of 3130 grafts (1600 grafts in Oct of 2000 & 1530 grafts in May of 2001). Of those 3130 total grafts, approximately 2400 of them were placed in the top/front, my current recipient area (the rest were placed in the back & temples). For my 3rd procedure on 4/5/06, everything went smooth. All the staff members were kind, caring and accommodating. It's a top-notch facility with an amazing view of the city (with bald eagles flying by!). Very little pain or discomfort (well, except the pain shots in the donor area), watched two funny movies and had a great chicken stir-fry lunch. Dr. Hasson clipped the hair short (1/4") in the recipient area (top/front) & removed a long (almost 14") donor strip (2230 grafts). So, by adding 2230 grafts to the 2400 grafts I already have, I will have almost double the density in the front. Since I was more careful this time to avoid any blood-thinning supplements before the procedure, recovery in the recipient has been much better than last time. The scabs stayed small and were all off by 8 days. My scalp is just a little pink. Very little pain or swelling there. I am still fairly numb above the donor incision and on top, as I expected. The incision is still tender and the skin in back has felt tight, but after 11 days, it's beginning to loosen up. If I tilt my head very far forward, it pulls the skin tight in back, causing a burning pain in the back part of the incision. Parts of the incision are still very tender to the touch. I'll post photos on HairLossHelp patient forums as things develop. With the rest of my hair 1" - 1 & 1/2" long, I am looking strange, until I can get the staples out and get a short haircut all over. Meanwhile, I am getting tired of wearing this baseball cap I got from H & W, even though it is my favorite color (black).
  23. "How you appoach the shaved head is a personal choice." Zerro, Hairbank summed it up with what he said above. Just to offer you my take on it, for what it's worth, when I decided to take the plunge with my first HT, back in September of 2004, I decided "in for a penny, in for a pound". In other words, I wasn't going to waltz around with trying to hide what I was doing or worry about people's reactions to it. When I took the time off--both times--for my first and second HT's, I told my bosses exactly why I was taking it. I got rid of my hairpiece. Both times, I buzzed my natural hair down so I wouldn't have to worry about cutting it for awhile, even though that meant my suture scar would show for several weeks, until it healed. With regard to having the hair from my first HT shaved down for my second HT with Doctor Cooley, I didn't even think about it. For that matter, I wasn't even aware of the information from Doctor Hasson that Pat posted here. I went ahead and had it shaved down. To me, it just stood to reason that, if shaving the hair from my first HT would make Dr. Cooley's efforts on the second HT easier, then he could do a better job of it. In my case, I suffered no shock loss in the hair I received from my first HT. It hasn't been quite three months since my second HT and I'm only now beginning to sprout some of the new hairs, but my first-HT hair grew back in a matter of weeks and, if anything, it looks healthier and more manageable than it did before it was shaved. But, again, that was just my preference. I fully understand that others may be more sensitive about "going public" with their HT's or, perhaps, are in an occupation where it is not as desireable to have the tops of their heads shaved. I do believe that it is better, on the whole, for the recipient area to be shaved down, but at the same time, not shaving it wouldn't have any fatal results. Like Hairbank said, it boils down to what works for you. And best of luck with your HT!
  24. Zerro, Having been in the chair for my 2nd HT 2 months ago..........I feel your pain. Seeing Pat's earlier post linking to Dr. Hasson's explanation (excellent reading for those of you who haven't seen it) I won't go into the benefits of shaving the head before HT. My first HT was a fill in......1200 grafts in and around the front and top. The surgeon did not shave the recipient site. Though not super densely packed, 30-35 cm2 I'd guess, I did have some shock loss. It was all pre-HT, native MPB susceptible hair and I'd say less than 1/2 returned. Still, I knew this was a possibility and have been pleased with the results. When I started consulting different surgeons for my 2nd HT about 4-5 months ago, I knew I wanted a "real" mega session of as many as I could get. Given their excellent results along with proven harvested graft numbers I chose Hasson & Wong. When I consulted with Mike Ferko and he mentioned shavin' the noggin', I flipped! I think my exact comment was "NO WAY".....I'm a banker.....conservative environment....suit/tie.....meet with people all the time every day......won't work. Now..........I consulted with 4 different surgeons before deciding. If memory serves, H&W was the one that really advised me to shave the head (not blade-shaved mind you, just clipped all the way down without a guard so there's stubble). In the end, I decided that I'm going to have my new hair for the REST OF MY LIFE so what's a few months of a crew cut hairstyle?? The benefits of shaving and protecting againts the disection of follicles far outweighed the costs. Again, I work in a professional environment and was ultra concerned with my appearance. Did I get a few looks and wise cracks.........a few, but, it's all in how you take things. I joked about an early summer haircut.......low flying plane....etc., had some fun with my co-workers. No one EVER had a clue I had a HT and I went back to work 12 days post-op. The joking around about my hair (wasn't much) lasted a day or two..........as has been said before, we're our own worst critic. When it comes down to it, people are much more concern with themselves than they are with you. The hair will grow back and no one will even remember it 6 months to a year later. I'm telling you this while currently at 2 months post-op, experienced shock loss and am just now starting to have the appearance of some hair on my head. Still........no big deal....I'm excited about what I'm going to see 2-3 months down the road. IMO if you have dense packing you will experience some shock loss.......even to HT hair. I sure did and I believe most people do. If native hair gets shocked out, as long as it's not in the final stages of MPB it should come back for you but there's no guarantee. How you appoach the shaved head is a personal choice. This is all just IMO. Good luck with your decision.
  25. Pat... I'm of the pre-shaven generation too. That and I just look plain ridiculous. Some heads are just meant not to be shaven. So what would you do? You've provided conflicting arguments. Mudpuppy... ouch! That is not what I wanted to hear. Did Dr. Hasson warn you about that, or was it a surprise to everyone? -And, does the shocked hair go into a long dormant cycle or does it begin to grow within a couple of weeks?
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