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  1. Hello, I had a FUE by Dr. Erdogan in February of 2017 and it has been nearly 20 months at this time and wanted to ask a few questions and see what people think. I am a little dissapointed in my results. That is not to say that my results are a total failure, but my main goal going into this procedure was to fix my hairline. I had a botched FUT in 2013 in Colorado. I then had a repair and small FUE with Dr. Konior in 2014. I then had 3200 graft FUE with Dr. Erdogan in 2/2017. I think if money was no object I would have gone with Konior for my last FUE but all the research I had done suggested that the best FUE results were coming out of turkey, in particular Dr. Erdogan. Also, when I had my FUE with Dr. Konior, extractions were done with a rotary tool, something like a power drill type device and I was lead to believe that manual punch extraction was in some way better. Regardless of my reasoning I am here now, and must move forward and deal with the situation. My problem is that I still have a very think hairline, and have to comb my hair in such a way as to cover my hairline. All I want is to be able to brush my hair back and not have a very odd, thin hairline. I have not contacted the clinic for follow up. At this point I would like other peoples thoughts on how to move forward. I do not think my hairline will thicken up enough to avoid needing another procedure. I am thinking of contacting Hasson and Wong or another person a little closer to home. Anyhow thoughts and suggestions are welcome. I posted a before and after pic and have many more pics I can post if people would like.
  2. Vancouver-area patient in his late 20’s. Dr. Hasson and team transplanted 5886 grafts front to back via FUT. 2171 were single hair grafts, 3584 were doubles, and 131 were 3-4’s. With some hair styling product in his hair, these photos were taken approximately 11 months post-op. *At the time of his procedure we were experiencing with a white background, we have since gone back to blue. Apologies for the difference.
  3. Hey guys , so my surgery date for 2000 FUE grafts supposed to be on 11-19-2018.. I had 5 buisiness days prior to surgery to make full payment .. I have the whole money in my bank account , but had lost my debit card the week prior .. so they wanted me to use PayPal so I signed up for it but I had to wait for my confirm with PayPal before I can pay .. so the office manager told me I had until 3pm yesterday to make payment .. even though I told i be able to do it tomorrow.. she still cancel on me and reschedule me for the next earliest date October 28th 2019 for FUT or FUE.. I’m kinda upset about it . Since my PayPal account is active now I’m able to pay .. so I’m a day late n they still canceled .. but kinda glad cuz I rather do FUT to save money .. and it’s wiser to do fut ur first transplant .. I told them I want to be on their cancellation list for upcoming cancels .. but right now , I feel like going to giving Hasson n Wong a consult .. diep clinic can steal my $1000 deposit .. I’m not waiting a whole year , I’m not crazy about their FUT , I like his hairlines though .. but their office is not very customer friendly .. .. so is Hasson n wong prices on their website Canadian dollars? I think I might go to them if their schedule is open .
  4. 57 days out of a so far good experience with Dr L. Nader. This post will have results, experiences, opinions on my procedure and the process in general. 1) Decision. Early 40's male with slow progressing hair loss since early 20's and at time of procedure guessing a NW5 . Still had enough hair growing across the bridge of my head for some passable comb over action. Hair loss comes in waves somewhat. And this last wave over the past 3 years it went from presentable. to really thin and debatable if the comb over was helping frame my face, or looking kind of like I was holding on and trying too hard. Basically that point we can all see in other guys when we can safely say they look better just buzzing it and owning their confidence again. Funny thing is we don't see it easy in ourselves. To that end we have all seen men here completely failing in this department. I watched several guys here who looked really handsome with a little receding hairline rush and get a new one only to look less manly and detract from their looks. Granted, most guys benefit hugely from the front center being there, but sometimes high temples look better with certain guys and they screw it up. Bit the biggest fails I see here are the older guys who overdye and get too aggressive trying to see themselves at 20 in the mirror and it looks BAD. Or the flip side is they get some little tuft of hair three inches too high. It looks good to them, but they would look so much better just shaving it off and waste huge money on a look that hurts their looks. ASK PEOPLES ADVICE. I was lucky that I have a few really attractive female friends in their late 30's and early 40's and got some feedback. All said the same things! First is they really don't look at guys hair much unless it is bad. Kind of like how women notice each others nails and makeup but guys don't really focus on that. But let's also be honest, some people look good bald, but most look better with hair. A HT isn't going to make you go from a 5 to a 10. But like clothes, really bad hair can ruin you. If it is stringy and receding bad. man up and cut it off. Or if you are a good candidate and can really make a nice look, go with the HT if you can afford it. But only if it really can improve your look. Go bald or have it restored to at least a convincing mature hairline. After looking at 10,000 results I can say anything less will only make you look worse! To that end, I gave up the struggle with creative combing, hair spray and shading makeup (works great for once in a while when you want to look your absolute best). I cut my hair to about one inch. I hated it at first. Never had it like that before. Crazy thing is after a few weeks of getting used it it I knew I looked a 1000x better. All my female friends I asked were crystal clear they thought it was great short and was an improvement. I know I looked more bald, but confidence is sexy and I looked more confident . even if I didn't feel it. I always thought I would never have the kind of face or head that looked right buzzed. But turns out it's probably in my head and a lot of guys too. I only cut it short to prepare for the HT and see how I liked it since it was going to get cut off anyhow. I grew to like it. Not sure I will choose to grow it back to the 3-4 inches it was ever again. 2)Decision made, now what? So I am not a rich guy. But I always said when my hair got to the point where I really felt it was an issue, I would look at getting FUE. NEVER FUT. Month's of research and for the life of me, unless you are a NW6 who want's to absolutely push graft numbers to the limits, why would you ever let someone meat clever your head and get a huge scar. DON'T DO IT unless you are in that tight spot going for broke. Even then I think it is foolish. Two big decisions to make. One was what surgeon and two, how much needed to be done with a FUT procedure. I could not afford to use one of the top 10 big name clinics in the world. They have a huge proven track record of a high rate of good results and are the obvious choice if you have $20-40,000usd to spend. And with so many results you can see each doctor has a look that they strive for. Some are dense hairlines, some maximizing donor grafts for the best overall look. All are good, but pick one who's style you like and you have made as safe of a bet as you can. No Dr. hits a home run every time. Even the best. But odds are ever in your favor! HT is not rocket science. I see tons of guys disappointed for different reasons. Sometimes it is a medical failure, but usually an issue of unrealistic expectations, surgeon skill and lack of homework. After having looked at 1000's of results I gained some wisdom. The math does not lie. To get the density I wanted over the area that I wanted with the hair type I have I knew I needed 3,500 Grafts. The numbers are simple really, but ignored by most. The average patient with average thickness hair and average of 2 hairs per FU needs 40-50 follicles transplanted per cm2. installed in mostly bald areas. That is the minimum to have hair that does not look blatantly thin to the average person in front of you. It would probably not look right on a 22 year old, looks okay on a 40y old and up. Now, if you have jet black hair on a white guy, going to need more! It is not hard to measure. I did the math and knew what I needed. Now to find the right Dr. 3) With my budget in mind, I set out to explore the lesser known options outside of the superstars. This is where it gets murky. Even the 2nd tier surgeons in the US are pretty expensive. Some are for sure second tier because they don't do as good or as reliable work. Others are maybe up and coming and making a name for themselves. You can make your own decisions there. Then there are the 3rd tier places. Basically every city is full of plastic surgeons who will do a HT for you. But unless this is what they do, and all they do, STAY AWAY. It is a very skilled thing and needs a well oiled machine of a team. But for guys who are on a limited budget there is another option. Getting your HT done in a lower cost nation. Turkey is the superbowl of that. If you are smart and do your homework, you can get a world class HT done there at a fraction of the cost. But you really need to do your homework and sometimes roll the dice. I mean if you have a 95% chance of getting a best case result at a US superstar, maybe you have a 90% there at a good place in Turkey for 1/4 of the price. On a budget, that is still pretty good odds. I was going to get a HT in Turkey. The risk to reward on a budget was the next best choice to a top doc here in the USA. I was about to book a plane ticket when I caught wind of Dr. Nader in Mexico. 4) Why I went to Mexico. Simple really. I found a doctor I felt confident in who crossed all the t's and dotted all the I's I needed for a practice. His results were good (at least at the time I booked) and of course it was much closer than Turkey. I rented a car and drove there in a day. And of course, cost. I could afford 3,500 grafts there. And more importantly felt confident in his practice. To me it was the next best choice after the top USA doctors. So I booked a 2 day FUE with him. 5) Why Dr Nader. I knew I was going to have to get more creative than booking a bankrupting HT with Hasson and Wong. Having researched tons of doctors, medical journals and message boards, I came to settle on this guy for a few reasons beyond cost and location. He does the extractions and incisions himself. In other words, no technicians who you know nothing about doing the work. Sure, people can be trained and you go with the reputation of the practice. But even better if you know for sure someone who has done this 1000's of times is behind the punch putting 1000's of holes in your head. He has the right staff. Dr. Nader had 5 nurses/techs working with him on my procedure. He used a .8mm punch He limits how many grafts he does a day and only sees one patient a day. Very important and a real sign of quality. His website is lacking and marketing is non existent. But with some real effort you can see he had the important things you look for on paper with a good HT surgeon. At the end of the day I really had to look at results. His results are poorly documented. Considering he does this every day and has for over a decade, you would hope for more to go on. But I really had only about 10 results to see. And to be honest some looked mediocre. On the bright side I never saw any negative reviews or bad results. Then came the real hard looks. I noticed every mediocre result was because of low graft counts. Simply put Dr. N was getting really good results with the actual hairs he transplanted, but often patients were not having enough grafts done to start with. At the time of my booking I only could find one person he worked on that had what I would consider a sub-par result. I figured most of the unremarkable results were due to budget. I mean if the patient only has a limited budget, you do what you can and I think he gets a lot of guys who are on a budget. Armed with that information I felt strongly that Dr. N was a good choice and would be able to get the same graft survival rates as any top doctor should. I will add that right at the time of my procedure several new cases came to light here where his results were week even when the patient had enough grafts implanted. So I kind of got nervous. Though even those results were not failures. But they were not home runs either. One guy may just need more time, the other looks like maybe 60% of it grew. Time will tell I guess. Had I see these before my procedure, I may have gone to Turkey and seen one of the clinics there. It would have been a harder choice. I am glad I saw them after..lol 6)Procedure. His office is 2 miles from the USA. Really no big deal and he sends a car. Nice office. Everything they say about the man here is spot on. He is kind, professional, knowledgeable and you can not help but feel in good hands and like the guy. Very down to Earth. We talked about my goals and what we would be working towards. He also talked very candidly about his own struggles with hair loss and why he chose this profession. Even some American doctors who he knows personally as he is active in the community of HT surgeons. I also learned quickly why many of his results look thin. It really comes down to each surgeon is a bit of an artist too. His aesthetic is very conservative. To say he is NOT money driven is an understatement. He tried to convince me I only needed 2500 grafts even though it would still take up the two days I was booked for. So he would have lost thousands of dollars because he was advocating for me and what he felt. He could have safely transplanted the 3500. He just said it was not needed to have a nice result, and save my money. So two awesome things there, One, you start to realize this Dr. in his mind thinks thin hair looks age appropriate. There is no right or wrong there. Two, he proved to me that he is not money driven, but results and compassion driven. Regardless of my final result, I completely respect and feel confident in his ethics. Ultimately I was steadfast in wanting to get the density I was aiming for and knew I needed to hit for the look I wanted (low 40's per cm2). He agreed to implant to a as high a density as possible where we were still 100% safe and not pushing it. We ended up with about 500 extra grafts since I was insistent on harvesting 3500 and he truly didn't know how dense he could pack safely till implantation started later. So we put the last 500 in the crown. He also ended up with about 100 more grafts than I paid for, but told me not to worry about that. Very classy operation. Procedure was over two consecutive days. Not painful and pretty standard for a HT. Each session of about 1800 grafts took about 6 hours from first punch, till last implant. That's well within the safe zone time wise. He also uses a upgraded storage solution, but only mentioned it when I asked. These are things he could easy market on his website or cheap out on techs. Nope, he just likes what he does and cares for his patients. The first night I took some Advil. Night of 2nd day or surgery I didn't even have to take anything. It was as pleasurable and painless as you can hope for. It is really not fun though and let's not sugar coat it. But not so horrible you can't watch TV or grit your teeth and get through it. At the end of the two days we had implanted 3588 grafts. Nearly all were 2 hair grafts. My hairs according to him were on the thicker side of average. I have average donor density in back, so I probably have 2-3000 or so in reserve for the future. Most of it went into the frontal 1/3 and quick math shows we implanted at a density of about 43 grafts per cm2. We went with a fairly conservative hairline that we agreed looked good. Though he felt I could have left it about 1/3 inch higher on my forehead. I wanted it a bit more forward and that's what he did and I don't regret that.
  5. Hi all, I am a 25 year old norwood 5 diffuse thinner. I've been loosing hair for the past 10 years. Though my hairline has been relatively same for the past 10 years, I've lost a lot on the top. I consulted with Dr.Hasson about a month ago. He suggested to increase the density by 3000 grafts and leave the hairline untouched. I had below average laxity. On shaving the donor area, Dr.Hasson found that the density of grafts in a particular region was way higher than the rest. The doctor thought that the particular region was average density while the rest were below average. But it turned out that the region had above average density while the rest had average density. Thus 4424 grafts were harvested while targeting 3000 grafts. Here is my grafts breakdown: 1559 single hair grafts 2608 double 257 3-4 hair grafts I've attached the preop and graft placement pics... Please share your thoughts
  6. Vancouver area patient in his early 40’s. Above average donor hair, fine to medium in texture. Dr. Hasson and team transplanted 7410 grafts front to crown via FUT. 2094 were single hair grafts, 4955 were doubles and 361 were 3-4 hair grafts. These photos were taken 1-year post-op.
  7. Hello all, Been a lurker to not just this forum, but a few others (including reddit) and decided to join this one and create a post. So a little about me (please bare with me lol). I'm 33 now, Back when I was about 23, I believe, the girl who used to cut my hair pointed out that I had a thin spot on my crown. The reason she pointed it out, besides the fact that she was a family friend, is that she always knew me to have very thick, very coarse hair. I still sorta do. I hopped on rogaine not too far after that, and then upped the ante by going on finasteride, or propecia (it's now generic finasteride that i'm taking currently), when I noticed that my hairline was beginning to weaken, which was around 26-27. Was only on it for maybe 3 years, when I got off of it (was expensive before i found out i could get generic for a fraction of the cost). All in all, I've been back on it for well over a year now. Despite my proactivity in my fight back for hairloss, I'm slowly losing the battle and am looking to buy time. I've been exploring and researching hair transplants for a few years now. Prob since 2015. I've seen some absolute works of art, I've also seen the absolute worst surgeries imaginable, but what my research has concluded is that this is something you absolutely MUST do your homework on, and that you really only want the best in the field to do the work. It wasn't until recently that I decided to take it a step further and get consultations, and I've limited it to just right now. Hasson and Wong, and Chicago Hair Institute. I've had 2 online consults with hasson and wong, with a guy named mike over a span of 2 years, the last one being last week. Been interested in Dr. Hasson for as long as I"ve been doing research. Both consults, not much has changed in the recommendation of 3000 grafts to fill in hairline and crown, but I never pulled the trigger because well, i never thought it would get worse over the long term and my loss has pretty much been stable (and yknow, MONEY). But as of recently, i was picked up by reputable talent agency on the east coast, and given the unfortunate circumstances of vanity and the nature of the industry, i've been extremely critical of my friends on the top of my head. After doing more research, and discovering the talents of Dr. Konior, (as well as the lack of availability from what I've seen in these forums), I decided to send in my photos to the Chicago Hair institute. There was a page on the site that was for out of town patients, and they care about discreetness and a timeline as to when i could wear a hat and go home, and that spoke volumes to me as I'd really like to be as discreet as humanly possible. I was contacted by Dr. Nadimi, who gave me essentially the same graft estimate that H&W gave me, and I'll be booking a facetime consultation with her coming up. I'll show photos of my situation as well, but I'm curious as to anyone's dealings with Dr. Nadimi. From what I've experienced and understand so far, is that she's worked under and been trained by Konior, and that she's all business. And that her quality of work is good, but there's not much info on her results, in the regard that there are volumes on Koniors work. Right now, she's the front runner given her locale (my uncle lives 8 miles from the clinic, so i can ask to stay with him), and that she also emailed me directly. That truly impressed me TBH. Konior is booked over a year out, and i want to get this done sooner rather than later. Any and all info would be great!
  8. I'm trying to figure out where I should go from here. Had my first transplant at 18 or 19 years old. I had an accident when I was 11 that left me with a significant scar on my scalp that always bothered me. One night I saw an infomercial for hair transplants and thought maybe they could transplant hair into the scar. I had a consultation and the Dr. and he said he could do it. I understood nothing about hair transplants and had no idea what I was getting into. The first procedure was around 700 grafts. The doctor not only transplanted into the scar but also transplanted into the temple area's and created a new hairline to help cover the scar. The results were not good, the first person to see me with my hat off said, "God, gave you a wierd hairline." I was devastated and went back to the doctor to see what could be done. He said we just need to fill it in with more hair. I was desperate and so I did it. I ended up doing 3 procedures with this doctor from the the age of 19-22. I honestly though it was going to be one procedure. After the third procedure grew in I finally knew it was only getting worse. I didn't know it but every procedure was making the situation worse. I was no longer concerned about the scar but now my new hairline. There were odd angled hairs, pitting, multiple hair grafts, it looked like doll hair. I posted my story on a website and was told to go see some other doctors, to get their opinions on my situation. I went to Hasson and Wong and also Shapiro. They said it was criminal what was done to me, and all the doctors thought my best bet was to cut the entire hairline out with a resection, and then come back in and create a new hairline to cover the scar from the resection. This path terrified me. Then I was told that we could possibly use FUE to remove the hairs from the hairline. I choose the FUE route, which in retrospect was a mistake. I've been through 3 FUE procedures to remove the hairline, and just last year I had another FUT procedure to help soften and bolster the hairline. So where I'm at now. I've lost a lot of hair, a Norwood five for sure, maybe a 6 or 7. There are still hairs from the old hairline that need to be removed, still have some pitting, and multiple hair grafts that I'd like to get rid of, my crown is mostly bald, I have no more laxity, so strip procedures are done. I have some donor left if I go the FUE route, been estimated somewhere between 3,000 to 4,000 available. So what I've been thinking is I have two paths to choose from. More transplants till I use up my donor, and pray the Proscar allows me to keep what I have, or I could shave it all off, get SMP into the scar, and hope I could get comfortable with it. I've visited a few doctors and SMP practioners and I get different opinions. I'm really uncertain what to do. I get concerned that if I keep losing hair I simply wont have enough donor to keep up with the hairloss. The shaving scares me because of the strip scar, and pitting I have in hairline, that would be exposed if I shave. So I'm just trying to figure what I should do and hoping to find some feedback. I'm working on getting some good photos.
  9. sorry to hear about your situation, I can relate because I had a HT when I was in my early 20's in the 1990's, no idea what I was getting into other than I thought it was a solution to my fear of starting to lose hair, but it was the exact opposite, I got plugs put into my hairline which was fine for a several years until I lost more and more hair. I suffered for decades styling my hair in the most creative ways to try and conceal my hair loss, using hair sprays, gels, comb-overs, etc. I finally had enough after doing quite a bit of research and coming across this site, doing my research on new techniques, best in class doctors, etc. I finally got a few consultations with some top notch docs including Feller, Hasson, Shapiro, Konior, but settled on doing FUE with Rahal. I can't tell you how freeing it was to finally correct a problem and fear I was living with for years ... it was the best thing I could have done for myself. I hope you find a solution to your issue to, maybe Dr. Umar?? If your donor is depleted, he does some great work with body, beard grafts. Post some pics of your condition so others can give you some advice as well. Best of luck to you.
  10. Overview: 2623 graft FUE with Dr. Hasson on December 19, 2016. I am 27 years old and wanted to share my experience start to finish with Dr. Hasson from Hasson & Wong. Here is the graft breakdown of the surgery: 1's - 432 2's - 1642 3/4's - 549 Transcetion Rate 1% Background: I have always been pretty vain about my hair and noticed thinning when I was 19/20. I didn't do much about it other than take longer to style my hair to make sure every hair was "perfect". 2012 I got a consultation done with a hair loss institute and ended up buying a laser comb and starting taking Continuite by Ross Shampoo/conditioner. I used the comb 3/week 20 minutes at a time and even introduced a DHT blocker with a massager about a year later. This seemed to slow thinning down a bit and it seemed like I was maintaining fairly well. For those out here I am sure you are familiar with becoming obsessed about your hair, constantly checking the mirror and heaven forbid someone touches it playfully! It consumed my thoughts every time I had to get ready I would take extra time and I just started to wear hats as often as I could when I worked out or went out. Not that it was that bad but just to put my "head" at ease. None of my friends or even girlfriend at the time knew that I was that vain about it because it didn't seem that bad as neither of them really ever commented on it that I was losing my hair. But I knew Of course you get jealous for every man that walks by on the street or friends that have awesome hairlines and flowy hair. About 2 years ago I added in "Hair Essentials" by natural wellbeing to the mix and 1.5 years ago I took up rogaine, the shedding phase sucked! We all know how it goes, the more you stress about it the more you seemingly lose, but the more you lose the more you stress - vicious cycle. I also hated putting rogaine in my toiletree bag knowing that my friends could see it any time. Also applying it I didn't like as it is tough to style with it and a pain if you are having someone over late and need to apply at night. My barber who I had been to for years knew of my situation and she would do her best to cut my hair appropriately. For example my left side is stronger so she would let that grow out so that I could essentially comb it over and into the other hairs when I styled it. The illusions worked! As long as I didn't have to go swimming, sweat working out profusely or be in the wind. Long story short- I knew I didn't want to keep spending all the time & money on consumables to AT BEST maintain what I was have or slow it down. Cue my research for hair transplant, which is something I joked about with my cousin in the past that we would have to resort to (but always remained a joke). Earlier in 2016 I met with Doug and Dr. Wong and was initially quoted 1000-1200 grafts (because I had my hair styled I even fooled them!). After researching proscar I got on it in about March 2016 with no side affects even though I let my mind question it at times. I considered a HT but had to do more due diligence to see if Hasson & Wong was right for me and at the time they were still a little more fresh to it as they had changed a couple things with it. Mid-2016 I met again with much more research done and they answered my countless questions. I was quoted for 2,000 grafts by Dr. Wong. Still being cautious I went back and met with them yet again and this time was quoted 2,500 by Dr. Hasson (I didn't style my hair). I knew that if I didn't do a hair transplant there was no "end in sight" to get better and going with one of the best places in the world helped keep my mind at ease in regards to the outcome I would get. Now at 27 it isn't easy to come up with cash for a 2,500 graft surgery but really money is nothing compared to putting my mind at ease and to know I can hopefully finally put my head to rest and not spend so much time worrying about it. Dec 19 was the big day with Dr. Hasson. Day of the Surgery - December 19 2016 If this already wasn't one of the craziest days of my life, Vancouver decided to have its biggest snowfall in years overnight causing havoc on the roads. My appointment was at 7am, I left my place at 5:45am for a normallly 30 minute drive and ran into accidents all over. Already 30 minutes late, I ditched the car which was at a full stop for an hour due to the havoc ahead of me and ran to the skytrain where I took 3 skytrains and a 15min dash to the clinic. I ended up getting there, sweaty, at approximately 8:45am. Elena was great at coordinating with me and they were all very understanding the ill-timed act of god that gave me quite the adventure in the morning. I was worried about this affecting the speed of the surgery that they would rush but they assured me it would not. Luckily my blood pressure wasn't over the top so we proceeded to shave off my precious existing hair, first time I have had a buzz cut since I was a kid! We got right into the extraction process by 9:30/10am and aside from a small lunch break Elena was working her magic until about 4pm straight. The only thing that fell asleep were my arms from time to time I was I guess too excited to fall asleep myself, but the process was fairly painless. People talk about the anasthetic injections but they are not more painful than when you go to the dentist for a cavity. It was encouraging to hear my grafts were really high quality, I was aware the back of my head was very thick but this was reassuring. The convo was good with Elena and I was relaxed to a constant playlist of Kygo which I enjoyed. 4pm or so rolled around and it was time for Dr. Hasson to make his slits. We drew the hairline and I left it mostly up to him, he is the expert after all. My hairline was goign to be the same and essentially the grafts are just for the front density. Of course it is hard to not let my mind wander on what is the best for me in terms of the grafts where they should be placed and if they should be more spread out to the back or to bring my hairline a tingle lower but you gotta let the expert do his thing! Time will tell. I honestly thought I was going to need some in my crown, but after shaving it looks as though I got hair through it all which I was pleasantly surprised at. approx 1-2 hours of slits and anathesia and Dr. Hasson was out. He is an incredible guy and for how long he has been doing this, super understanding and kind (good sense of humor too!). Small dinner break and other than that the next 6-7 hours were putting the grafts in! I swear I finished about 1.5 seasons of brooklyn nine-nine on netflix while two ladies switched on and off putting grafts in. One of the nurses shoulders was super sore, and she was a trooper to fight through the pain. The overhead light was a little low as well and they kept hitting their heads/topbun on it. I was discharged at 12:45am with head bandaged up. So I guess me being late due to the weather did not compromise the time they put in to make sure the quality was good! I was happy to stay as long as needed and for them to take their time, I just felt bad for them. Towards the end my anathesia was wearing off so it started to get fairly painful. Almost was a trade-off as the needles were more painful to inject because the head was sensitive. The first sleep was uncomfortable I was just worried about staying straight up. Head was throbbing but a couple t-3's fixed that. I work from home so getting up at 7am the next morning to catch up on e-mails was challenging to say the least. It wasn't my most productive week of work lets say that. Days 1-5 after They fairly blend in. I went in for a wash by the clinic 4 straight days. The swelling in day 2-4 was at its peak and was f*cking hilairous. I laughed hard every time I looked at myself in the mirror. Despite my ear being in tact, it looked like I had gone 12 rounds with Tyson in his prime. Obviously being extremely careful each day to make sure I don't dislodge any graft I slept on my back each night which made sleeping pretty uncomfortable. Had some pain here and there, nothing that advil can't fix. I think the most challenging part honestly was coming up with excuses for family/friends why my parents and I couldn't spend Christmas with them or why I couldn't go to social events with my friends. Summary You get what you pay for, and for me in this life changing process it is important to go with the cream of the crop. Through the whole process, the doctors, nurses, Doug were all fantastic. I know this post is a bit of ramble, but it was past threads from people in my age range (trashpanda, N0Air, spidey) that made me feel more comfortable with this, so I hope I can do that for others. I am ALREADY getting impatient and nervous for the next 3 months with respect to the recovery process and to what my final result will be. If you have any further questions or comments feel free to post here or privately message me!
  11. Hello guys, i have recently recieved a hair transplant with Dr.Victor Hasson. 2146 grafts to the frontal hairline. I have been on propecia for 5 years which has grown my hair back quite a bit and stopped my hairloss. I recieved a few PRP treatments which to my suprise thickened my hair up lots, i will post pics. Finally last year feb.9 2016 i decided to have my hairline fixed beacuse it was naturally uneven on one side quite a bit. I did zero research and the place i had the prp done they did robotic FUE. And i thought if prp worked this would to, oh was i wrong. I recieved 1200 grafts fast forward a year and i barly had any growth and worse of all i was left with square scars from them improperly placing the robot on my donor area. Finally i did lots of research and decided to book with dr.hasson, my surgery was march 7.2017. 2146 FUE grafts were placed in the frontal hairline area. The surgery took a long time. Everyone was great and helpful, i was just glad to be having it done and fixed finally. I went to the clinic afterwards for 2 days to recieve hair washes and after that i followed post op intrustions for washing. I am currently on day 6 post op still have some scabbing and crusting, tomorrow is the first time i can use shower pressure to help loosen the crusting/scabbing. I will be updating this as time goes on and hoping for the best. Thanks for looking and hope to hear from all of you! First pic is 6 days post op. Second pic is pre-op, you cant see the one side as much because my hand is covering it but it went back maybe 1.5 inches more then the other side/temple.
  12. Hello All, I am considering doing a 2nd procedure, using FUT. Specifically, I am looking at doing it with Dr. Victor Hasson (from Hasson & Wong) in Vancouver. Looking at getting about 1500-2000 grafts. Can anyone comment on their experience on Dr. Hasson, the clinic or what they've heard? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
  13. Hey friends! I'm looking to schedule a HT with Dr. Hasson in a few months (I've already had a consultation with him). The thing is that I can't take a lot of time off of work. I'm curious how many days you guys have had pain and inflated faces. I would love to hear all about your own post-op experiences, or any advice you may have!
  14. Overview Hey everyone, I wanted to document and share my experience getting an FUE procedure with Dr. Hasson at H&W in Vancouver. I am 25 years old and live in Florida, USA. Background I would say my "hair loss" started as early as age 16-17, when my forehead started to get higher. It continued at a very very slow pace, so slow that I never even considered the fact that I was actually experiencing hair loss that would eventually lead me to going bald. I've always had a really big head and got made fun of it for it throughout my younger years, but it never bothered me and I always rolled with the jokes. It wasn't until I was 23, after a haircut where I asked the stylist to go a little bit shorter than usual, where I looked in the mirror and realized what was happening. That's when I started to freak out and my life definitely changed. As I'm sure many of you are familiar with this feeling, you begin to become obsessed with hair and hair loss. I would go out and the first thing I notice on any man is his hair or lack there of. I hated this feeling and I thought to myself...is it going to be like this forever? I experienced mild depression and a lot of anxiety from my thoughts on hairloss, thinking that I'm doomed and there will never be a better day for my hair for the rest of my life. My dad has thinning hair, maybe a NW3-4 but is still holding it together for a 60 year old man. His brothers are all very similar. His dad had a full head of hear when he died at 93 years old. So I grew up thinking, I will just end up looking like one of them. However, when I started researching hair loss, I realized it can come from both sides of your family. My moms dad and brother both had advanced hairloss NW5-6 before they passed. So I sat there thinking, f*** I'm SCREWED! One of my friends, who has absolutely no filter, was with me and my other friend who is experiencing hairloss, a bit more advanced than mine, jokingly mentioned that we should get hair transplants. He wasn't being serious, but it made me think, is that a real option? I always thought it was only for celebrities and not for the common man. So I began my research and within a week I had set up a free consultation with a local HT clinic near me, a doctor who is in all the top organizations and uses ARTAS. This doctor quoted me for 1500-1700 grafts using the ARTAS and also encouraged me to start using finasteride. I immediately rejected the idea of taking a pill for the foreseeable future, as I live a pretty natural lifestyle and don't like the idea of pharmaceutical drugs. Regardless, after he wrote me a prescription, I did some research online....that FREAKED ME OUT!!! Everything that came up was how I would have permanent erectile disfunction and would essentially be trading my sex life for keeping my receding hairline. I rejected the idea of finasteride for about two months, before realizing (after reading through the scientific journals and other patients experiences) that the chances of side effects are very low and it is basically my only chance of retaining the hair that I have. With that said, I have been on some sort of finasteride for almost a year to the date. I took generic finasteride for 6 months before I decided to switch to brand propecia (1mg), and I couldn't believe the difference that I saw in the reduction of shedding. That made me swear I would never switch back to generic, no matter the price. Since then, I have switched to brand proscar cut into 4s to take 1.25mg/daily. Anyways, months go by since I visited the original HT doctor and I thought I had pretty much decided on going to him because he was local and it would be convenient. However, once I found sites like this, I was able to see the results of other clinics and I began to think: maybe I should consider traveling for such a momentous procedure. I knew I wanted to go with FUE because of my young age and liking to keep my hair shorter on the sides. But the more I researched about FUE techniques, the more I did not like the ARTAS system and leaned more towards a manual punch. I was incredibly impressed by the work of Dr. Erdogen at ASMED and their results, but I also saw the H&W started to offer FUE but didn't have many published results. Thats when I saw spideys results and started to consider H&W for my procedure. I actually appreciate the fact that they took so long to get into FUE and that they were guided into practicing FUE with Dr. Erdogen and ASMED. Reputation is everything in this industry and I knew that if H&W had chosen to go into FUE, that they knew that they could stand behind their results. No offense to the other clinics, which I have seen many good results, but for my own sanity I needed to go to a clinic that I knew I would feel comfortable with. About my hairloss Like I said, I have been experiencing some sort of hair loss since I was 16-17 when my hairline started to get higher. My corners slowly receded and got to a point around age 23 where I became really uncomfortable with how I looked and I was constantly worrying about my hair. I have a big head so any hair loss is more pronounced than someone with a normal sized head lol. If I had to self-assess, I am somewhere between a NW2-3. Day of surgery First let me explain to you the craziness of my journey to Vancouver. I booked my flights around 5-6 months in advanced after I had booked my procedure with Dr. Hasson. My plan was to fly out of Pittsburgh, because I was going to be in that area visiting family before I went to Vancouver. So my surgery is scheduled for Monday 08/08/2016 @ 7am and I am about to fall asleep with my wife in the hotel near Pittsburgh on Saturday 08/06/2016 @ 11:00PM, when I shot out of bed and realized that I had forgotten my passport in Florida. I started to freak out, because my flight to Vancouver was set for 9am the next morning. My only option was to buy 2 new tickets: one from Pitt to Florida and one from Florida to Vancouver, so I could go home, grab my passport, and fly back out. Money was not an option at this point, I could not miss this appointment!!! Luckily, the tickets didn't come out too expensive, especially when you consider what it would have cost in $$ and opportunity costs if I didn't do it. So I flew back to FL, drove home, grabbed my passport, went back to the airport, and flew to Vancouver. I arrived at the Sheraton downtown in Vancouver at 1:30am and needed to be at the clinic at 7am the next morning. I got a few hours of sleep and headed to the clinic and got there on time. I filled out the necessary paper work and went in to talk to Elena, the lead tech who performs the extractions. She is super nice and knowledgable and told me I had nice donor hair. This surprised me because I thought that because I have more fine hair, that I wouldn't have a ton of donor capacity. Dr. Hasson eventually came in and inspected my donor hair, telling me I have approximately 8,000 FUE donor bank which made me ecstatic. I also have good laxity, but a strip procedure is not in my plans for anytime soon. Dr. Hasson drew three different hairlines on one side of my face to see which one I would like best, in which I went for the most conservative option. As much as I would have liked to go for a lower hairline, I would rather save any grafts I have for future loss. I never had any desire to lower my hairline, as many of the males on my dads side have high foreheads and before my corners started to vanish, I was never unhappy with my big forehead! He also gave me the option of having a more curved shaped hairline or more straight, in which I opted for a more curved hairline because I thought it would look more natural and I would age better into it. After we decided on the hairline, Elena shaved a bit into my hairline where the grafts would be inserted and then shaved my donor area. After that, the extractions began. Yes the anastesia injections are a bit painful, but I knew that going into the surgery. During the actual extractions I felt absolutely no pain at all, but I have a bad lower back and it became sore after laying flat on my stomach for so long. I brought my ipad and cell phone that I watched movies on and texted my wife and friends during the extractions, looking at the devices through the hole where my face was in the chair. We probably started the extractions around 8:30am and broke for lunch around 1pm for around 30 minutes. During lunch and through other parts of the extractions, there would be 3-4 techs on microscropes cleaning and separating grafts into singles, doubles, and multis. Then we finished the extractions around 4PM or later (I can't remember exactly). Thats when Dr. Hasson came in and made the incisions. He gave me a clicker to help keep count of the # of incisions he had made, where he would count to himself silently to 100 and then I would hit the clicker. He is very thorough and took his time. After this is when the techs started to implant to grafts. I asked the main tech (can't remember her name, sorry) how long she had been with H&W and she said 10 years! Inserting the grafts took a few hours, but it was the most relaxing part of the procedure since I was able to sit upright and watch netflix on the TV. When we finally finished up, it was close to 10PM and the staff helped teach me about how to wear the hat they give you, the different medications, and all other post op care. I have attached some pre-op pics I took of myself months before the surgery, but I will update soon with the pre-op and post-op pics from H&W themselves. I hope I can help others that are considering HTs in the future, especially those around my age. I did an insane amount of research and I suggest you do the same if you are on the fence. Do not just jump into something like this, like I almost did when I began considering HTs. I'm in the hotel now and do not feel any pain, but I do look kind of crazy lol! I had an old couple on the elevator ask me "what happened to you?" and I replied "I had hair surgery." They were really nice and told me they hoped I healed fast. I am nervous about traveling through the airport, but once I get home I'm sure I will be at ease. I have a wonderful support system around me with my wife, family and friends and that definitely helps a lot. Thank you to the entire H&W team for a very nice experience. Im so glad I chose this clinic and can't wait to get this recovery process started. Also thank you to this forum and all its members and moderators. It has been very informative and helpful in my decision, you just need to know how to sort through all of the crap sometimes. I will update soon with pre-op and post-op pics!! I also want to give a special thanks to N0Air (member on this forum) and Doug from H&W for the info they share on this forum to help other members.
  15. Hey friends! I'm looking to schedule a HT with Dr. Hasson in a few months (I've already had a consultation with him). The thing is that I can't take a lot of time off of work. I'm curious how many days you guys have had pain and inflated faces. I would love to hear all about your own post-op experiences, or any advice you may have!
  16. brickellmoto

    3 years in the making...

    thank you. Dr. Nadimi specified 1500-2000 for high density frontal hairline restoration, and then about 1500 for the crown. i'm not sure how much further my hair loss will continue tbh. Mike from Hasson and Wong said its hard to tell what i am on the norwood scale, but it's on the low side i believe. But a 3000-3500 graft procedure i can live with ideally. I'm not sure how that will translate to reality tho.
  17. Hey guys I’m going to share my experience with you all cause for the last 6 months I’ve read into these threads and this is what incouraged me to ultimately go with Dr. Hasson and do the surgury. I’ve been struggling with hair lose since my early 20s and have been wearing a hat for 99% of the time. Only time I would take a hat off is at home or at a wedding literally. It really was driving me bonkers.So I flew into Vancouver from edmonton and went for it yesterday, I did the surgury. Mornig of the surgury I was greeted by the girls and and was told to change into the shirt they provide. Then we went into the OR room with . Dr. Hasson he’s funny and helps you not worry too much. Dr. Hasson gave me the needles so I wouldn’t feel anything you feel them but it’s what is expected. He then started with the strip. As he takes the strip out he is closing it up at the same time. Took about 45 min no big deal. After that he got right into the incisions. I clicked every 100 and we got to 3500. For the next 8 hours it was implanting time as 2 girls work on me and 2 more work on removing the hairs out of the strip. We had breaks for lunch and supper they give you a menu and you pick whatever. I watched tv and talked with the nurses all very nice. The chair starts to get uncomfortable as you could imagine for moving for 12 hours laid back in the chair. After the top 3500 was done Dr. Hasson came back in and started on my temples he did about 250 each side. By this time it was about 10 hours in. The girls started to implant on the temples and that took another 2 hours. Then whatever grafts were left over they doubled up on the top. After we were all done I came back to the hotel took my pain medication and sleeping pill and crashed hard. Had a good sleep now I’m sitting in my hotel room having breakfast. Highly recommend Dr. Hasson great guy and awesome clinic. Let me know what ya guys think I’m thinking I’m gonna get great results!!!!! And don’t worry I’ll update everyone all the time of progress so hopefully I can help other people that were in my case!!! I know how it is . Cheers
  18. I am looking to get an FUE surgery done. After talking to 5 or 6 clinic, I was told I would need about 3500 graft. I have narrowed down to Dr. Diep or Dr. Hasson. Any thoughts or recommendation from anyone regarding these 2 doctors? During the process, I have also considered and had discussion with Shapiro, Ranior, Rahal.
  19. fallinghare

    Dr. Victor Hasson

    I haven't had a procedure with Dr. Hasson but I plan to in the coming months. I did have a consultation with him in September. He was personable, had a good sense of humour, very knowledgeable, had an artistic eye, and absolutely no-baloney. He knows what he's talking about and does not over-promise. Again, I haven't had a procedure with him, but meeting him grounded my expectations and gave me confidence in him.
  20. Aftermath

    Dr. Victor Hasson

    Im a patient of Dr. Hasson, both him and his entire team are exceptional and I have nothing but great things to say about them, my current results are shown towards the bottom of the page on the link below, and I’m blown away by the transformation and the difference he’s made to my life. I’ve had 4 procedures with him, below is my last porcedure
  21. Hello Forum. This is my first post. I had an FUT with Dr. Hasson in March 2018. 5113 Grafts, of which approximately 2/3 went into the front and 1/3 into the crown. I'm submitting some photos of the journey and my results so far. Here are the pre-op pics. Sorry, I don't have any pre-op pics of the crown area.
  22. This Vancouver area patient in his mid-30’s came to the clinic to address his receded hairline and thinning frontal zone. Dr. Hasson and team used 2575 grafts extracted via FUE to restore the area and achieve the desired result. 302 were single hair grafts, 2017 were doubles and 256 were 3-4 hair grafts. These photos were taken just shy of 1 year post-op. *At the time of his procedure we were experimenting with a white background, we have since gone back to blue. Apologies for the difference.
  23. densedream

    FUE into FUT

    Yeah but a hair transplant doctor who has cut out and sewn or stapled up 100's if not 1000's of patients scalps seems to have great grasp on how to perform the procedure. I'm considering Dr. Wong/Hasson because of their history of great scars.
  24. Squidward

    Foreceps vs. Implanter

    Id be curious, who that's had a Depp transplant or a Hasson & Wong, or Dr. Nadimi, how do they implant their grafts into the recipient?
  25. Head to North America. Dr. Gabel is on the West Coast in Portland, Oregon and Hasson & Wong in Vancouver, those are elite surgeons easily accessible from Australia in a single non-stop plane ride.
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