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Dr. Diep vs. Dr. Hasson - Thoughts on who for FUE?
SammyD posted a topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
I am looking to get an FUE surgery done. After talking to 5 or 6 clinic, I was told I would need about 3500 graft. I have narrowed down to Dr. Diep or Dr. Hasson. Any thoughts or recommendation from anyone regarding these 2 doctors? During the process, I have also considered and had discussion with Shapiro, Ranior, Rahal. -
FUT 4775 grafts with Dr. Paul Shapiro
AmirMilad posted a topic in Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients
Hi All, I first need to thank this forum and the members. I cannot overstate the impact of this forum throughout my journey. After thoroughly researching this forum and having several phone consultations, I figured out that Shapiro medical group is the right option for me. Given the extensiveness of the surgery I needed (photos are attached), I decided to go with Dr. Shapiro. My surgery was on June 19th (three days ago), and currently I am super pleased with the experience. The surgery itself went very smoothly and I didn't feel even a little pain (that could be because Dr. Paul has an expertise in pain management). Initially we were shooting for 3500-4000 grafts, but we ended up with 4775 grafts (I think it is considered mega-session, right?). I have attached pre- and post-op photos. I appreciate if you give me your feedback. Any comment is very much appreciated. -
HT with Dr. Paul Shapiro - FUT - 3947 Grafts - 8/13/2018
dberliner posted a topic in Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients
So after lurking around this forum for a while I had decided to dive in head first (pun intended) and go ahead with the transplant. If you'd like to ask me any specific questions I'd be happy to answer. I'll just say that the HT itself was relatively painless and aside from some acceptable uncomfortableness and tenderness in the first 3 weeks the entire process was relatively as smooth as one would expect. I've been taking Finasteride for 2 and half months prior to surgery and I'm using Minoxidil once daily starting 2 weeks after surgery, per Shapiro's instructions. I was a NW 3/4 with balding spots in the crown and heavy thinning in the frontal hairline region. Shapiro has decided on using the entire grafts extracted on the frontal region and let Finasteride do its trick on the crown area. Right now I'm at the 1 month mark. I've been losing a lot of hair during this time, especially after starting to apply Minoxidil. I will update every month or two with pictures of my progress. Hopefully it will be a good one! -
My HT with Dr.Ron Shapiro on Sep7 2006 - I have also created my detailed HT blog
icare4myhair posted a topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Hi All, I had recently posted a description of my recent HT with Dr.Ron Shapiro on Sep 7, 2006. I just found the time to spend a few hours in creating a detailed blog and updating it with my pre-op, post op day 1 pics by Dr.Shapiro/Matt, and several post op (day2, day3 and day13) photos. I would very much like any comments/feedback on my post/blog and my progress. My Story: (This is detailed in my blog as well, Blog link at the end of this post) ______________________________________________________________________________________________ I have been losing hair since my early twenties gradually. I used to sport fairly long hair when I was young, sometimes shoulder length, so i used to notice more hair loss while combing or taking showers etc. Gradually this decreased as I moved into later twenties , most probably, due to the density decreasing and the hair itself gradually thinning out. I used to be quite sensitive to any comments like - hey you are losing hair, or you have lesser hair etc. Not that too many people have made such comments, it was probably only a handful of people and when such comments were made, I just lost my respect for them and probably did not care much for them after that. But the fact remained that I continued to be sensitive to my hair loss. Similar story to most hair loss sufferers listed here. I did not really think about any treatments for my hair loss, to be honest. There was once , in my early twenties when i first started noticing hair loss and went to a doctor and he looked at my head and said that I was fine and gave me some pills for peace of mind - can you believe it? Anyway, it was only very recently, that I learnt about success stories of HTs - even though I had heard about hair pieces, hair weaving etc earlier, but never was comfortable with any of them. I would any day have preferred to bald gracefully than to look like a clown in any of those solutions. But recently, after reading about latest techniques and success stories of HT, I went to Bosley and MHR for consultations. And in fact scheduled a procedure with MHR. Just like for a few other people on the Hairtransplantnetwork, Pats discussion forum site came to my rescue in the nick of time. And I started my research anew by reading through the website in detail. I quickly narrowed my search to a few top surgeons and decided to finally go with Dr.Ron Shapiro due to the great feedback he had, and also because I had happened across his name earlier during my Bosley/MHR research. For some reason, his name had stuck in mind, I would never have thought earlier that i would fly cross country for a HT. I quickly decided to go with Dr.Shapiro, and called Matt the very next day , and scheduled a procedure for the very next week (Sep7). Luckily someone had cancelled and a date opened up that was offered to me and I grabbed it. It all happened to me at lightning speed thereafter. I had never thought that I would decide upon and undergo a HT so quickly , as I had only started reading about HTs about late last year (2005). I underwent a procedure with Dr.Shapiro on Sep7. Everything went great (I have posted my experience of the visit on the ht forum). It was very much like others have described a HT procedure with Dr.Ron Shapiro - great doctor, great person, great team - Matt, Janna and all their other staff, very smooth procedure throughout. I think I would classify as a 4 or so - never asked Dr.Ron specifically about where I stood on Norwood scale. Since I am 31, and my thinning is mainly around the hairline front 1/3 and toward the crown, these were the areas primarily addressed. Dr. Shapiro gave an initial high level recommendation for about 2000 grafts for the front 3rd with about 500 grafts or so toward the top part of the crown, keeping future loss in mind, and also with the assumption that propecia may help keep/grow some hair in that region. I ended with a total number of 2523 grafts for the front 1/3 and some on the top of the crown with about a two finger width region on the top of my head not being touched as Dr.shapiro indicated that I had decent thair in that region and he did not want to risk going through it. Dr.Shapiro cut my thin hairs in the front region and also some small hairs on the crown were cut to enable placment of grafts there. Today is exactly day 15 after my HT - my scabs have healed well and i had my staples removed on day 12. I am noticing a lot of hair loss (probably both transplanted grafts and native hair) after week1. This is happening more as I am starting to shampoo and massage my hair more vigorously now. Maybe I should stop that and be more gentle. I would very much like any comments/feedback on my post/blog and my progress. -
HT with Dr. Paul Shapiro - FUT - 3947 Grafts - 8/13/2018
Pete-from-Farjo replied to dberliner's topic in Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients
Sensible approach by Dr. Shapiro. You look like you have a good amount of hair at the crown that could potentially be saved by finasteride, so concentrating the grafts of the frontal area makes sense. Still very early days so hang in there. Things should start happening in the next few weeks. -
Repair needed, not sure what to do next.
jbwj2016 posted a topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
I'm trying to figure out where I should go from here. Had my first transplant at 18 or 19 years old. I had an accident when I was 11 that left me with a significant scar on my scalp that always bothered me. One night I saw an infomercial for hair transplants and thought maybe they could transplant hair into the scar. I had a consultation and the Dr. and he said he could do it. I understood nothing about hair transplants and had no idea what I was getting into. The first procedure was around 700 grafts. The doctor not only transplanted into the scar but also transplanted into the temple area's and created a new hairline to help cover the scar. The results were not good, the first person to see me with my hat off said, "God, gave you a wierd hairline." I was devastated and went back to the doctor to see what could be done. He said we just need to fill it in with more hair. I was desperate and so I did it. I ended up doing 3 procedures with this doctor from the the age of 19-22. I honestly though it was going to be one procedure. After the third procedure grew in I finally knew it was only getting worse. I didn't know it but every procedure was making the situation worse. I was no longer concerned about the scar but now my new hairline. There were odd angled hairs, pitting, multiple hair grafts, it looked like doll hair. I posted my story on a website and was told to go see some other doctors, to get their opinions on my situation. I went to Hasson and Wong and also Shapiro. They said it was criminal what was done to me, and all the doctors thought my best bet was to cut the entire hairline out with a resection, and then come back in and create a new hairline to cover the scar from the resection. This path terrified me. Then I was told that we could possibly use FUE to remove the hairs from the hairline. I choose the FUE route, which in retrospect was a mistake. I've been through 3 FUE procedures to remove the hairline, and just last year I had another FUT procedure to help soften and bolster the hairline. So where I'm at now. I've lost a lot of hair, a Norwood five for sure, maybe a 6 or 7. There are still hairs from the old hairline that need to be removed, still have some pitting, and multiple hair grafts that I'd like to get rid of, my crown is mostly bald, I have no more laxity, so strip procedures are done. I have some donor left if I go the FUE route, been estimated somewhere between 3,000 to 4,000 available. So what I've been thinking is I have two paths to choose from. More transplants till I use up my donor, and pray the Proscar allows me to keep what I have, or I could shave it all off, get SMP into the scar, and hope I could get comfortable with it. I've visited a few doctors and SMP practioners and I get different opinions. I'm really uncertain what to do. I get concerned that if I keep losing hair I simply wont have enough donor to keep up with the hairloss. The shaving scares me because of the strip scar, and pitting I have in hairline, that would be exposed if I shave. So I'm just trying to figure what I should do and hoping to find some feedback. I'm working on getting some good photos. -
Repair needed, not sure what to do next.
home1212 replied to jbwj2016's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
sorry to hear about your situation, I can relate because I had a HT when I was in my early 20's in the 1990's, no idea what I was getting into other than I thought it was a solution to my fear of starting to lose hair, but it was the exact opposite, I got plugs put into my hairline which was fine for a several years until I lost more and more hair. I suffered for decades styling my hair in the most creative ways to try and conceal my hair loss, using hair sprays, gels, comb-overs, etc. I finally had enough after doing quite a bit of research and coming across this site, doing my research on new techniques, best in class doctors, etc. I finally got a few consultations with some top notch docs including Feller, Hasson, Shapiro, Konior, but settled on doing FUE with Rahal. I can't tell you how freeing it was to finally correct a problem and fear I was living with for years ... it was the best thing I could have done for myself. I hope you find a solution to your issue to, maybe Dr. Umar?? If your donor is depleted, he does some great work with body, beard grafts. Post some pics of your condition so others can give you some advice as well. Best of luck to you. -
ShapiroMD Hair Growth Products Do They Really Work?
Melvin-Moderator posted a topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Some of you guys may have seen these products advertised on Facebook, Instagram or other social media sites. IMPORTANT NOTE: This product is not to be confused with Dr. Ron and Paul Shapiro, these are completely different doctors who started this product. The price is quite expensive and the ingredients lackluster in my opinion. It’s essentially saw palmetto, green tea flavanol and caffeine being marketed as the most powerful DHT blockers on the market. I recommend you guys take a few short minutes out of your day to the read the article and share it if possible, this could potentially help alot of guys out there who are considering this product Do ShapiroMD Hair Growth Products Really Work? -
NW6 just looking for opinion
Shmiggy replied to Shmiggy's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Great info Laser. I appreciate the thoughtful reply. I am currently on 1.25 mg fin from Dr. Ron at Shapiro. Just started that 2-3 years ago. Here’s some photos from Dr. Bisanga when I visited him about 5 years ago. He used some pretty harsh lighting but you can get the idea of what the fin has maintained. -
Initial thoughts on HT doctors in India ...
rocketmas posted a topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Hi, We have some of the most knowledgeable people on HT here, so always appreciate the feedback. I myself have used this forum since 2003 intermittently, and keep coming back for answers. Some superb folks here Here is my situation, I had my first transplant with Dr Ron Shapiro in 2004. 2500, FUT procedure. Very satisfied with the work and kept me happy for many years. Now 14 years down the road, I am 50 plus and have thinned around the front of the head and have a receded hairline. I am NW3-4, and am probably looking at a 3000 grafts FUE procedure. I was considering going to Dr. Rahal as I like the ultra fine, mega density and super hairline work, but I am in India now and am just unable to go all the way to Montreal for HT. Friends tell me HT in India is quite good nowadays (just they don't have the experience I do :)). I have seen many people with shabby HTs here. But then they did not research the subject nor did they know what to expect. I know there are others, who get a great HT done, but they have put in the research work. My expectations are high so wanted to ask the knowledgeable here on Dr. Bhatti or others in India, on who is world-class in terms of results, consistency, experience, tools used, etc.. Would appreciate your thoughts folks! Ultrafine hair transplant, mega density and superior hairlines are all important. Thanks, Sean -
Really Struggling With My Hair Loss - Please Help
jjsrader replied to hanginginthewire's topic in Support Group - Discuss personal issues due to Hair Loss
Yea, this forum is pro-transplants for sure. Anything beyond NW5 is mostly about 'reasonable expectations' after all there is only so much hair you can replace that is lost - however, those w/very favorable hair characteristics who are NW5 or NW6 'skew' the results in my opinion. For example, on hair forums the vast amount of photograph evidence is from doctors or patients that get very good cosmetic results (even w/advanced baldness) vs the amount of pics we see that are not so good. That's a fact. For example, take a look at Dr. Bernstein and a few other doctor's websites (Shapiro/H&W) that feature ALOT of NW5/NW6 results and take a good hard look and think to yourself w/your own hair characteristics and long-term hairloss pattern if those are results that would seem good to you if you did 3 FUE surgeries? I don't recommend hair transplants to anyone - but that doesn't mean my opinion is any more valid than the many people who have had hair-restoration surgery and been completely satisfied with it. My entire family male history on both sides are all NW5's/6's and 7's - someone like me who began losing his hair at age 21 should probably not ever start going down the hair transplant road. I waited until I was 23 years old to begin. Even w/the arsenal of meds & stuff I am on (in my profile) I have only managed to slow down my long-term hairloss slightly (and I have been on alot of stuff for 20+ years). 8.6K+ hair transplants w/fine straight hair doesn't look NEARLY as full as someone like Bill (managing publisher) who has wavy thick hair. That's just a fact. My expectations have diminished as I have gotten older, yet I will be having another surgery in Feb '19 because I want enough hair in my frontal hairband and 1/3rd of my head to have enough hair to create the illusion of a near-normal head of hair. After that final FUT I'll finish off w/FUE - but this is my personal journey and the FUE will be for my midscalp to the back of my mid-vertex. I'll have to let my crown slowly lose but have a 'base' of grafts to keep the natural crown whirl. Even w/13K of grafts w/my type of hair (fine/straight on very white skin) the contrast created doesn't create the illusion of a full head of hair throughout my entire head of hair. Of course w/a bit of dermmatch and/or hair volumizing fibers and such it looks pretty near normal - but that can be a pain in the ass everyday as well (which I don't do on a regular basis). Even w/temporary SMP or even permanent ink via Mark Weston that is NOT exactly like natural regular density hair - there is no magic bullet. PRP and laser helmets are still not well documented. So, it never really ends, in a manner of speaking. It is all about personal perspective and realistic expectations under all lighting conditions etc... All I know is that if you are commited to the long haul and are not taking any systemic meds/topicals/hair laser/prp or whatever to slow down hairloss - is that hairloss is progressive (the severity depending on your genetics and family history) and anything can happen when you are much older. -
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Incredibly frustrating experience - Matt Zupan/Dr. Shapiro
ash1983 posted a topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Male, 30 years old, had hair transplant procedure with Dr. Paul Shapiro on 12/19/13. Its been seven months and I am not seeing any hair growth. As the pictures posted on my profile illustrate, the hair growth has been patchy, and less than 33% of the hair transplanted has started growing. Needless to say, when I called the Shapiro clinic yesterday for my post op appointment, I was frustrated with the progress so far. Instead of listening to my concerns, their representative Matt Zupan does the following: 1. Matt starts off the call by telling me how fantastic my hair growth has been so far. It is obvious he hasn't seen my pictures, since most people can look at my pictures and conclude that the growth is far from "fantastic" 2. Then, once I ask if I should use Minoxidil (Rogaine) to stimulate hair growth, he starts blaming me for not using Minoxidil from right after the surgery, and Matt mentions that the handout/videos state that using Minoxidil is mandatory. 3. He then proceeds to create a theory that the transplanted hair is growing well, and the reason I still look bald is that my native hair is falling. I then have to remind Matt to look at my file, since I clearly mentioned before my surgery that I have been on Avodart (Dutasteride - 0.5mg) since 2010. 4. At this stage, I am incredibly frustrated, since Matt has not looked at my medical records, or looked closely at my pictures, and he is trying to pin the lack of hair growth on me. Before the call ends, Matt again asks me to email him the medications I am on, something I already told the Shapiro group the day of my surgery. I am ok with spending $10000, and living my life with a big scar on my scalp. What I am not ok with, is the utter lack of professionalism displayed by Matt Zupan. At this stage, I have no other option but to pray and hope for hair growth, or be back under the knife. -
FUE at Shapiro
Melvin-Moderator replied to det9925's topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Dr. Josephitis is the surgeon who performs all of the FUE extractions at Shapiro Medical Clinic, he is a pre-screened recommended surgeon. You can see his results on his doctor profile here: Patient Results -
"Wobbly" vs Straight Hairlines
Melvin-Moderator replied to TrixGlendevon's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Hairlines in nature contain macro and micro irregularity, this gives the hairline the soft look. Macro-Irregularities are broad changes on the hairline and micro-irregularities are small and subtle changes to the hairline. No hairline is straight that is abnormal and does not look natural. Now the shape of the hairline itself can be straight but still contain macro and micro irregularities. I have posted three examples, one of a guy with a really bad hair transplant, unnaturally low and too straight. The other two gentlemen are guys how have been blessed with full heads of hair and no recession, you see the hairlines are not straight, there are both macro (larger) changes and micro (smaller) changes along the hairline. The hairlines look soft and youthful as opposed to abrupt and artificial. Dr. Shapiro, has an article he published that is a very good read, I suggest you guys read it, it is very educational. http://shapiromedical.com/recognition/smg-published-articles/principles-techniques-used-to-create-a-natural-hairline-in-surgical-hair-restoration/ -
4,000+ procedure with SMG in two months - what can I expect?
Cotshore1 posted a topic in Open Hair Loss Topics
A little background. I have a 4,000+ surgery coming up in two months with Dr. Josephitis at Shapiro Medical Group and frankly have been thinking about it non stop for the last 10 months. I am a 5a, and looking to cover the front half, leaving the crown mainly open. I am currently wearing a hair system - which blows. the system, FYI, is very thin and my scalp shows through in any type of lighitng so as to prepare for transitioning away from system.This HT is the first step in the way of ditching this thing - atleast reducing the size to just my crown until I'm ready for procedue #2. SMG has informed me that I can wear the system after the procedure once 8-10 days have passed, as the grafts will have settled by then. Obviously, using clips so as to not adhere to the implanted area, with the idea that I will take it off at night, weekends (if possible), and obviously while I sleep. As for regrowth, it is my understanding that assuming I follow the Doctors orders, about 20% growth is realized after 3 mos, with 80% of the hair has surfaced by month 6, but only 50%-60% of the overall cosmetic appearance will have taken affect at that time. Again, obviously this varies, but I want to make sure I'm understanding all of this correctly. Thank you! -
Transplanted Temple POINTS
HairLossMentor replied to literalno's topic in Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients
The temple point examplea are from dr. Rahal... If dr. Rahal said "I will look like you had work done" - it means to dont need them and he only needs to restore your "temple angles" to frame your face. Your temples points (as is) will balance the hairline. If he were to restore them also, your hairline would look "off." Temple angles... frame your face, give you that "youthful look." Temple points - balance the hairline. They needs to match your temple points. A youthful hairline without temple points and the ht looks fake. Same with a mature hairline and agressive temple points. It will look off. Micro/macro irregularity - creates a soft, natural transition. Placement - based on ethnic background, hair loss history, etc. A lot goes into hairline design! Choose a hairline master like dr. Rahal or dr. Shapiro. -
Dr. Konior or Dr. Shapiro-First hair transplant
Dino5467 posted a topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Hello. Please help me decide between Dr. Konior and Dr Shapiro for my first hair transplant. I live in Chicago so Dr. Konior is close, but also Dr. Shapiro is a short flight away. I'm intereted only in FUE ( I keep my hair short). I have average to below average donor area, so every single graft counts. Your feedback is greatly appreciated based on your experience or what you know. Thanks -
A little background. I have a 4,000+ surgery coming up in two months with Dr. Josephitis at Shapiro Medical Group and frankly have been thinking about it non stop for the last 10 months. I am a 5a, and looking to cover the front half, leaving the crown mainly open. I am currently wearing a hair system - which blows. the system, FYI, is very thin and my scalp shows through in any type of lighitng so as to prepare for transitioning away from system.This HT is the first step in the way of ditching this thing - atleast reducing the size to just my crown until I'm ready for procedue #2. SMG has informed me that I can wear the system after the procedure once 8-10 days have passed, as the grafts will have settled by then. Obviously, using clips so as to not adhere to the implanted area, with the idea that I will take it off at night, weekends (if possible), and obviously while I sleep. As for regrowth, it is my understanding that assuming I follow the Doctors orders, about 20% growth is realized after 3 mos, with 80% of the grows surfacing by month 6, but only 50%-60% of the overall cosmetic appearance will have taken affect at that time. Again, obviously this varies, but I want to make sure I'm understanding all of this correctly. Thank you!
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Donor Miniaturization Issues and Options ?
delancey replied to Markee's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Why don't you try coloring your hair so that the donor has a uniform color. The fact that you have grey patches throughout your donor may be making the donor area appear as if it has thinning patches in the photos. You could also try taking a few videos of your donor zone in an area with natural lighting, and send them in to the clinics you are considering, instead of photos. There are different sites that will allow you to upload content and share it via a link. Finally, you have some of the very best Doctors in the world in the US who produce incredibly natural results. Dr. Gabel, Drs. Ron and Paul Shapiro, Dr. Konior to name a few. Why not consider one of them for your surgery? -
FUE 1217 Grafts - Dr. Paul Shapiro
Rem posted a topic in Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients
Guys, today I had my FUE procedure with Dr. Paul Shapiro. It is 2AM here in Minneapolis. Just woke from heavy dose of Valium and Vicodin. Tom said - One of easiest cases he has worked on (coarse thick straight hair). He extracted approx. 1200 grafts within a very short period using SAFE. Dr. Paul said - One of the difficult cases as I would just not go numb. He was extremely patient and kind. Matt - Great guy, his confidence in SMG gave me confidence. Jenna - Very particular about details and a sweet personality to deal with. SMG staff was very kind and helpful. It seemed to me Vicodin made very nauseous, threw up 4 times after the procedure. Hope the grafts did not get dislodged/fall out. Tomorrow I will be going for the hair wash at SMG and after I am back I will update the thread with more details. Many thanks to this forum and members of this forum for helping me all the way. Like I said I will add more details tomorrow. -
Dr. Lawrence Shapiro review and questions for other HT Dr.s
Scrounge posted a topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
The Questions: To get the possible doctors viewing this thread out of here quick, I'll start with the questions. Is it possible for a patient to hear every/most of the follicle incisions being done during a Dr. L. Shaprio type of procedure? Is there any other way to prove how many transplants were done? What can I do from this point forward? I'm very curious due to my most recent experience with Dr. L. Shaprio. I'll explain below... A little about me: Let me start by saying that I am 39 years old and have had 3 HT sessions with Dr. L. Shaprio over the last 3 years. Unlike some, I've been relatively happy with my improvements. My head hasn't been mangled nor do I have a hideous donor scar as a result of the three procedures. However, his ability to provide an undetectable hairline needs work. It is very possible that my 4th and hopefully final procedure will be with a Doctor that can provide a better hairline. My gradual hair loss started in my late 20's. By my mid 30's I started using Rogain based products and achieved positive results. However, those results weren't good enough and I decided to do HTs. I did some research of a few local doctors on the Internet and found very little (probably because I was searching specific doctors). I did several consultations as well. All of the doctors were using the same procedure and offering the same results. With that in mind, I chose Dr. L. Shaprio because his prices were better ($3 per Vs $8 per). The Doctor visits: During all 3 pre-surgery consultations I was able to speak to the Dr. as long as I needed. He spent time answering my questions and addressing my concerns. I found him to be quite friendly and knowledgeable. His staff was very friendly as well. They explain everything they want you to do to prepare for the procedure (messaging the scalp, no aspirin or alcohol, etc.) I also didn't find the initial sales pitch to be high pressure at all. But they do press quite hard for a deposit. When you return for the procedure is when they turn up the sales pressure in an attempt to get you to do more HTs. The Procedures When you get to there office, the staff signs you in and moves you into a consultation room. This is where the hard sale for more HTs happens. Once that's done the Dr. comes in and speaks with you. In my case, he again spent as much time as I needed answering questions and discussing the procedure each time I was there. After the Dr. visit I am dressed for the surgery, bombarded with paper work to sign and given the pre-op drugs. Next I am taken into one of the 3 procedure rooms(he is usually working on 2 other people at the same time). My lunch order is taken, my movie choice is put on the TV and the numbing shots are applied to my head by one of the Dr.'s nurses. Once I am numb the Dr. removes my donor strip, sews my up and makes the multiple HT incisions. After that it's not likely I'm going to see the Dr. again during the procedure. Unless he makes a request of me to allow him to bring in some (potential client) to see the procedure. Otherwise his assistants finish up by placing all of the implants. 1st HT I started out as a 3 or 3A. I was told that 1,000 was the least amount of HTs I should do. I chose to do 1200 at $2.50 per graft and was up sold to 1350 on the day of the procedure. 2nd HT Unhappy with the thickness of my hair (thinking I needed more HTs) and wanting to reduce the linear look of Dr. L Shapiro's hairline, I chose to do 1800 more at $2.50 per graft. The Dr. assured me that he could fix the look of the hair line and I would be happy. 3rd HT Still unhappy with the fullness and disappointed with the seemingly thicker/more visible linear hairline, I was back for more. During my consultation I asked the Dr. exactly what the max amount of HTs he thought I could do on my next procedure. I also told him that he must fix the hairline with the next HT. He told me that the reason my hairline was so defined/noticeable was because my hair was so dark and my scalp was so light.(I'm calling BS on this) But he swore that he could blend it in and make it look more natural. He was also very reluctant to give me the quantity of max HTs. However, he did end up telling me that 2000 (@ $2.00 per graft) was the max he could do. (This is what brings me to my original questions.) When I returned for the procedure, I was once again taken into the consultation room where the consultant started in about more HTs. I told her that the Dr. already said I was at a max of 2000 for this procedure. She "the consultant" then tells me, "no you could do more". I'm thinking WTF. I told her to go argue with the doctor. She then leaves the room and returns with the Dr. Dr. L. Shapiro proceeds to tell me that because I messaged so well he could do up to 500 more. This didn't sound right to me, but this is a "doctor" telling me and I want as much hair as possible, so I agreed to 200 more for a further reduced price of $1.50 per graft. Suspicious about the up sale because what the Dr. told me during my previous consultation, I decided to count the incisions during the procedure. I remembered how I could hear a crunching sound each time the doctor made an incision. I figure count those sounds and I'll know (within reason) whether or not I got the extra 200 grafts. Well the Dr. began and I started counting. I only got to around 870 and he was done. Needless to say I was confused and unsure if my count was accurate, so I didn't say anything. The here and now It's been less than 2 weeks since the HT and I've been beating myself up over this, wondering which way to turn. I started doing more research into this doctor and not liking what I've found. I can understand that some people aren't happy with their results. But my quandary involves being cheated out of money. This isn't a question of talent anymore. It's a question of whether or not this guy is selling you 2200 transplants for $4300.00 and only doing 870. Which coincidentally mean he's getting the average going rate of almost $5.00 per transplant. Please refer to the questions at the beginning and offer any assistance you can. Thank you for taking your time to read all of that. -
A Procedure That Almost Ruined My Life
wylie replied to HairlessUser's topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
It's a damn shame that there is zero accountability with so many people. On the flip side, I had a bad experience with an SMP procedure at Shapiro medical (no fault of theirs, the problem was my scalp was bumpy and uneven from multiple plug surgeries in the 90's and the resulting surgeries to repair these) and the SMP was uneven and splotchy in places. Dr. Shapiro (who did not do the surgery) listen to me and after seeing it, agreed with me and issued a full refund! So there are doctors out there who are accountable, but yours is not one of them. Glad you got fixed up, you look great now. -
Erdogan shot me down need help figuring what to do next ?
Melvin-Moderator replied to Markee's topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Dr. Konoir, Dr. Diep, Dr. Shapiro, Dr. Rahal, H&W, Dr. Lupunzula, Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Maras, those are just to name a few. I believe Dr. Maras at HDC clinic is close to Dr. Erdogan’s price range. Dr. Erdogan is a great surgeon, but this community recommends other surgeons that are also great. -
Can I Possibly be Candidate for Hair Transplant Surgery?
delancey replied to rjw524's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Hi rjw, It is difficult to get a good idea of your donor region by looking at these photos alone. First, the camera faced a bright light when the photos were taken, so the image quality is poor. Also, you hair is very short, so it is difficult to evaluate the donor region accurately from just looking at the photos. Do you have better photos with your hair grown out a bit? Dr. Konior in Illinois and Dr. Ron and Paul Shapiro are quite close to you and both are recommended by this forum. I recommend an in-person consult with a leading surgeon to get a crystal clear idea of what your options are. -
Hey guys, first time user here. I just got a price offer from Dr. Konior for a 3000 graft FUT procedure. He wants $18,500 for it. I also checked the Shapiro website, and it seems like they will do it for $14,000. I like Dr. Konior and his results, but the price is quite steep. What do you guys think I should do? edit: I decided to go with Dr. Konior as he offered to do it for his old fee, since that is what we had discussed about a year ago. I think that was very honorable of him.
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