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I arrived to Istanbul on 15th of January 2017 before midnight, after previous online consultation, booking an appointment and paying deposit. I choosed Asmed and Dr. Erdogan for theses reasons: 1. In that time Asmed almost hadn´t bad results on HT forums, 2. on their website they wrote, that they have interpreter from my native language (it wasn´t true), 3. I had good flight conection to Istanbul. After arrival the driver of Asmed clinic wait for me and my patient coordinator Sevinc called me to say welcome in Istanbul and to give me informations about my stay. On the second day, 16th of January 2017, in the afternoon I had an appoitment in Asmed clinic, where I filled the questionary and met Dr. Erdogan. He spoke with me for a while and draw me the hairline. I told him my expectations. Than they made pictures of me and my hair condition and cut my hair for 2 mm. Dr. Erdogan check my donor and said that I need 4500 grafts for hairline and vertex. Previous number of grafts after online consultation was 4000 – 4200 grafts. After that I payed rest of ammount (tottaly 11.250,- Eur for HT). Than Dr. Erdogan came and draw new hairline, but I didn't agree with it. He said that this hairline perfect suits me and asked the staff if he is right. Of course that nobody said that it is not true. Maybe it was my fault but I didn't know that this is final hairline for surgery and I expected that before surgery he draw me new hairline. I found out it next day, but it couldn't be changed (hairline is much worse as he drawed). I had my HT surgery on 17th and 18th of January 2017. Dr. Erdogan made just incisions and the rest (hair harvesting and implantation) were made by stuff. One of them told me that my grafts are perfect quality and my result will be great. After finishing my HT I look to the mirror and I saw that my hairline is wrong and unnaturall. Dr. Erdogan saw that I was not satisfied with my hairline and told that it is due the swelling and when hair start growing it will be fine. On 19th of January 2017 Dr. Erdogan checked the result and I came home. I started to use finasteride 1mg daily from the surgery. I sent my pictures to Asmed after one month, after 3 months and after 6 months from the surgery and they always wrote me back that everything is ok. After 11 months I saw that my transplanted area is still lack and result is bad, therefor I wrote to the Asmed and sent them pictures. They (Sevinc) wrote me that it is normal and everybody has different hair growth and I have to wait to the end of 18 month from HT and if my transplanted area will be still lack I have to write them and they offer me a solution. After 18 months my transplanted area was still lack and there were no improvement, therefor I wrote to Asmed another mail with pictures and asked them why my result is so weak and where the mistake happened. I was very suprised when they asked me to fill new questionary and to send them another pictures. My surprise was much bigger when they wrote me that I need another HT with 2500 grafts, which will be cost 6.250,- Euros. I have been in Istanbul again in August 2018 and I wrote to Asmed and asked them to arrange an apointment with Dr. Erdogan. They wrote me back that Dr. Erdogan is busy due the moving of clinic and he has no time to meet me. After time I published few pictures of my result on this forum with asking for opinion and I was contacted from Asmed for informations who am I and when I had HT in their clinic. I send them answears and they asked me for pictures of current condition of my hair, which I sent them, but I didn't get response. After 3 weeks I wrote them that I didn't get any response and they wrote me that they sent me response on my email adress but I didn't get it. After few days they wrote me that Dr. Erdogan checked my pictures and my result is normal and it was caused due stopped using finasteride (I have using Propecia for 18 months from the surgery). I wrote them that it can't be true, because my original hair are fine and my transplanted area are lack. Also the condition of my hair was same after 11 and after 18 months when I took Propecia, and now when I don't take Propecia. If it will be true, than my transplanted area will be fine and original hair will be lack. I wrote it them and they asked me for another set of pictures which Dr. Erdogan will check again and tell me the best solution. Therefor I sent them another set of pictures with current condition of my hair, but they didn't response for a month. I wrote them that I didn't get response and they wrote me that they sent me response on my email adress but I didn't get it. Another day they wrote me that hair behind the frontline started shedding when I stopped finasteride. Therefore it does not support the frontal part and this is why it looks as it does. I sent them once again set of my pictures and wrote them that I was on finasteride from my surgery to the end of 18 month since surgery and asked them, if bad result of HT in 11 month since surgery and in 17 and 18 month since surgery, where the same weak result was visible is caused by discontinuation of using finasteride after 18 months and asked them where is area of shaded hair after discontinuation of finasteride, which they mentioned. They wrote me back on 13th February 2020, that they will have a meeting with Dr. Erdogan to my case next day (14th February) and they let me know. Because I didn´t get any response I wrote them on 6th March what is happened. They wrote me back, that they had meeting, but Dr. Erdogan had to go to Mexico for the FUE workshop and they didn´t write the report and they think that I need another HT with 2500 grafts (the didn´t mentioned if free HT). I wrote them back that I still don´t know what is the reason of my terrible result of HT. They wrote me back that no using of finasteride is one of the reason and the exact reason is possible to say after analysis in live. On 8th March 2020 Melvin Moderator contacted me and he asked me for informations about my HT and than he wrote to Asmed. On 12th of March Asmed contacted me that Dr. Erdogan will analyze my photos once again and they let me know. Today is 11th April and nothing has change. Nobody from Asmed contacted me for another month. After 3 years and 4 months since my HT I still don´t know what is the reason of my terrible HT result. But I know that the reason is not discontinuation of using finasteride after 18 months since surgery, because the result in 11 month since surgery, 17 and 18 month since surgery and also now is the same. I don´t know if I should wait for some response from Asmed, but I don´t believe for something serious from them because I see that they try to delegate resposibility to my person and dicontinuation of finasteride after 18 months since surgery. And this is NOT the reason! I understood that they didn't want to help me to fix my weak result, but the purpose why they contacted me was to stop me to write negative things about Asmed clinic. From my HT I checked a lot of web sites and forums with this problematic and I saw a lot of results of another surgeons and clinic (in many cases "no name" surgeons and clinics) on theses forums and also on their web sites, where I saw a lot of similar hair loss cases like mine which are great and were solved with less numbers of grafts and I understood that I that I made a big mistake, when I decided to go to Asmed. Density of my frontal area is lack, shape of my hairline is unnatural with gap on one side and total result of my HT is weak and bad. One thing is the result. But another thing is attitude of clinic to their result. And the attitude of Asmed to my result is unethical and unprofessional. I usually do good decisions in my life and just a few of my decisions I consider as bad. But decision about going to Asmed and Dr. Erdogan for hair transplant I consider the worst in my life...- 106 replies
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Age 31, NW3 Medication: Finasteride 1mg/day, Minoxidil 5% 2x/day Hair characteristics: High contrast with skin Cost: ~$21K total, including A-Cell and Amino Fill injections. Not being incentivized to post this Before I get started, MASSIVE shoutout to giegnosiganoe who encouraged me to post here and also helped me so much with depression and buyer's regret that I had following my surgery. He's an awesome dude and I appreciate him so much. Hair loss timeline: 18 - Started to notice lots of shedding but ignored it 25 - Crown balding started to become apparent as well as hairline thinning 28 - Decided to start Fin / Minox, have decided I haven't seen progression since beginning this regimen Choice of surgeon: Dr. Diep was the best rated in the area where I live, I can't travel because I am taking care of my dying mother, and I wanted to get my crown tackled this year. Procedure: Arrived at 7:30am. Staff took me in the back, shaved my head, and then I met with Dr. Diep who outlined my crown, talked to me about my needs, which I said I wanted to only focus on my crown. He gave me my magic cup of pills which I took and then I went back to the original op room where I waited for them to take effect. Afterwards, Dr. Diep came in and began the extraction. During my extraction the chair I was on broke so they moved me into a back office room where they continued the procedure. After he finished the extraction, I ate food and the technicians began implanting my grafts to my crown. There is some stuff that happened here that I am working out with Dr. Diep, hopefully he holds true on his side but I will expand later based on my continued engagements with him. He has offered me his cell phone number and has been very quick to respond to questions which I appreciate, and seems to really care about my results and my opinion of his work. I was not provided a breakdown on the graft types that were extracted, so I do not know how many single, double or triple hair grafts were taken. Recovery: My donor area looked really extreme compared to other surgeons, but I've been told this is because Dr. Diep uses a 1mm punch which results in better success in graft survival. I haven't noticed a single lost graft so there might be something to that. The day after I returned to the office for the staff to wash my donor area and remove bandages. The swelling was quite intense and sleeping was a challenge. I slept at a 45 degree angle for 10 days and applied bacitracin 3x a day to my donor area throughout this time. Day 8 I began removing crustings / scabs and I am about finished removing them all, I am now at day 13. I have asked Dr. Diep to send me my post op photos but have not yet received, but I will share my pre-op, and day after photos. I will also share my updates as recovery continues. Feel free to ask any questions if there is anything I can expand on. Photos: Aug 2, 2020, was trying dermarolling until Dr. Diep told me it could cause more hair loss which is when I stopped Pre-op, with markings Post-op, day 1: Post-Op, day 7: Post-Op, today (day 13): -
Hi all, Since everyone on this forum has been instrumental in my years of research for the best surgeon for me, I figured I'd pay it back by making this thread about my 3,200 FUT frontal restoration procedure with Dr. Konior. I traveled from Miami to Chicago for the procedure. Dr. Konior initially scheduled me for a 3,000 graft FUT to restore the front hair line and densely pack. He ended up extracting around 3,200. It's only been 48 hours since the procedure, so I don't have any exact counts yet. I'll ask and get the exact numbers and types of grafts (singles, doubles, triples, etc) during my check ups this week. DAY OF SURGERY: I arrived at 6:30AM and quickly began the in-person consult with Dr. Konior. My first impression was exactly why I consider him to be one of the best in the business. We literally spent over an hour discussing the perfect hairline design for me. He tweaked it every few seconds for at least 20 minutes until it was perfect. As others have noted, he's a true perfectionist. I initially was nervous to ask for a slightly more aggressive hairline, but we both agreed on an age appropriate yet significantly lowered hairline that nicely filled in my temples. I promised to stay on finasteride/minoxidil for life (I already have been on moxidil for 4 years, and topical finasteride for 1 uear) so I can at least maintain my native hairs. After the 1 hour consult and agreement on the hairline, it was time to go into the operating room. I was given medication to help me relax and dose off. Every time I woke up, Dr. Konior was right by my side. I don't think he ever left the room except for when I had my own breaks for lunch and bathroom. I was extremely comfortable. Like others have mentioned, the only slightly painful part was the injection of the numbing agent in the donor area. The best part of this entire experience was that there was no rush. We had all day, I was the only patient he was seeing that day, and he did the entire procedure with only minimal help from technicians (based on what I could feel/hear -- my eyes were covered with a gauze). The primary technician has been with him for 27 years. It was a long day. The procedure ended at around 9PM. So, 6:30AM until 9PM. Since the procedure, I've had some discomfort on the incision line (to be expected) but the recipient area doesn't hurt at all. The pain relief meds have definitely helped tons. PRE-OP PHOTOS: PRE-OP HAIRLINE DESIGN POST-OP (between 1-2 days after procedure): I'm pretty swolen, so I'm sure once the swelling goes down so too will the hairline height. Either way, I'm thrilled thus far. You can tell it's really nicely/densely packed. Once I receive the exact numbers I will update the community. Lastly, I just want to say thank you all for sharing your experiences on this forum. I hope to pay it forward with this post and future updates. Now, the waiting game.. -
Hi Guys! So I am a patient of Dr. Koniors and I recently moved to Medellin (I'm a dual citizen). Needless to say QUALITY is something that I don't skimp on (hence my choice in Dr. Konior). The only surgeon "close" by that has a vast amount of credibility is Dr. Nader in Mexico, however that isn't quite even in the area (or continent). There are no really solid threads on trusted FUE surgeons in Colombia so I wanted to start a conversation about who has had first hand experience with RESEARCH and RECEIVING AN ACTUAL TRANSPLANT in Colombia. After doing some research these are the names I've come up with: Bogota: Rene Rodriguez Medical - https://2rmd.com This guy has a ton of content with artists to the average joe, youtube videos, and a flawless rating in just about every social media platform. Medellin: Dr. Hector Garcia - http://implantecapilar.com.co/secciones-85-s/dr-hctor-garca.htm This surgeon appears to be very professional without a whole lot of gaudy success stories or youtube videos (there are some that offer success stories). I wish there was more evidence of success stories, as this type of surgeon who specializes in FUE and isn't real big on advertising always appeals to me. Cali: Dr. Reina - https://www.transplantesdecabellocolombia.com/calvicie-implante-capilar/ I've come across this woman in my research and she has a lot of good content with her at conferences in the United States, with some images of results on her page. I noticed she does FUT (strip) so not sure if thats a red flag or not, but she appears to be a true hair restoration specialist. Dr. Carlos Triana - https://www.crecehaircenter.com/trasplante-capilar.html This guy belongs to the American Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (is that credential enough?) that I can't say for sure. He has his own brand of hair care products "Crece" and appears to be dedicated to the craft. PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION ON TOPIC AND LETS SEE IF WE CAN CONFIRM OUR GO TO HAIR TRANSPLANT SURGEON IN COLOMBIA. -
Hello everyone, thanks for letting me join this forum. A lot of important and valuable information for anyone regarding hair loss! My main question is, when comparing Dorin to True is one better then the other? When looking at before and after almost all are done by Robert Dorin. Who is, an amazing and skilled surgeon who constantly provides great results and has a consistent track record. However, I can’t find much of True here or on the website. A lot of the post op photos Dorin and True post on their website are what Dorin surgically does and posts here so that’s how I distinguish them. My main concern is, does it really matter between the two if I had to choose? I know everyone on this website reiterates “do it right or don’t do it all”. Thank you for your help. 23, Norwood 2, no thinning and in propecia.
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Hi everyone, I am writing to share my experience having an 1852 graft FUE with Dr. Dorin in New York. I have been helped so much by this forum, and I hope a thorough post can help someone else. The basics: I am a 40 year old man, Norwood 3V with likely progression to 5A if nature ran its course. I use Rogaine twice per day and have recently completed 3 treatments of PRP (with pronox which makes you loopy and indifferent to the scalp stabbings). I am not currently on finasteride but considering it along with switching to oral minoxidil. The plan: After a consultation with Dr. True, we planned for a 1500-1600 graft FUE focused on the front. Dr. Dorin would perform the surgery. Why I chose them: I had consultations with several other clinics. They were not good. One clinic bragged about their celebrity patients, only to reveal you, regular citizen, can't get the celebrity doctor. Another showed before and after pics that looked more like they had expertly adjusted the lighting than the patient's hairline. But from the very first conversation, True and Dorin were everything I was looking for: experts in both science and art with tremendous kindness. Oh, and one other selling point. I am scared of needles, despise needles, and also, to be honest with you, I'm not crazy about needles. But True and Dorin use a device called the CompuMed Wand that greatly lessens the pain of local anesthesia. Really? I asked three or four annoying times. Sign me up. Before the procedure: I had a lot questions and the staff at True and Dorin answered every one, no matter how small, very quickly and patiently. Want to jump on the phone? No problem. Talk to the doctor? Does tomorrow work? The morning of the procedure, they asked me to wash my head with Hibiclens, eat breakfast, and avoid coffee. They send an easy-to-follow list of instructions and call you to see if you have any questions for them. I had a prescription for Valium, and took a small dose (1mg) around 6:30am, an hour before we were set to start. I took another 1mg when I arrived, which I know is far less than most take (5mg to 10mg). The procedure: I got to the office at 7:30am, and the first thing that happened is Peter, a primary contact at the practice, took my before pictures. I didn't realize how emotional that moment would be. Sitting on that stool, I thought of all the times I'd shrink away from and dodge cameras, how many photos I am not a part of, how many memories I won't be seen in because I didn't want to see myself. Now, here I was, having one of the last pictures of me taken looking like that. Each flash made me smile—probably the first time I'd smiled in a photo in years. Too bad for the mask. Then, Dr. Dorin walks in and draws the hairline. He hands me a mirror. I think about this scene in the first Tim Burton Batman, when Jack Nicholson's Joker demands a mirror from his doctor after falling into acid. This wasn't that. To have one of the best in the world draw what he's going to do to help me, I felt a rush of gratitude. It's hokey, sure, but how many times do you know your life is about to change? But I do start to fear what will happen next, which are the dreaded numbing injections to the donor area. I lie face down on what I learn is a new chair, and a very comfortable one at that, and turn my head on my left ear. I hear Dr. Dorin turn on the machine and then...oh God...here it comes...it's...it's...not that bad. Then, Dr. Dorin's nurse, Rita, took over. She is hilarious and warm and the type of person you wish some scientist would clone so there would be more goodness in the world. Sure, the injections weren't my idea of a good time. And they did take a while. But, fellow needle phobes and haters, I promise you, they were easy. Halfway through, my anxiety went down making room for my excitement to go up. Soon, my head felt like a heavy helmet and Dr. Dorin began the extraction. He has great taste in music, so it was Sade radio as I felt a little pressure and heard the instrument whirling out grafts. They were initially aiming for 1500-1600, but we went for 1852. Awesome. The count in the end was 403 singles, 1121 doubles, and 328 triples. Then, Rita numbed the hairline. Now on my back, but lying down, she encouraged me to focus on my breathing, relax my shoulders and arms, and go somewhere else in my mind. That probably for normal people means a happy place like a beach or somewhere with burgers and beer, but I kept reflecting on how sad I had been, how many self-conscious moments I had had, how those days were numbered. During this time, I mentioned to Rita that I was hungry. Dr. Dorin walked in with the food I brought, asked me how long I wanted him to heat it up, and then brought me back my lunch. Yes, one of the world's leading hair transplant surgeons didn't tell me to wait until Rita was done, didn't order someone else to do it, but went and microwaved my food himself to help me. After the lunch break, Dr. Dorin made the incisions. He never dumbs down anything, which I love, but when he explained his technique I didn't understand enough to repeat it here. Between the crunching sound and Dr. Dorin counting to one hundred repeatedly, I fell asleep pretty quickly. But before dozing off, I also had blood drawn for PRP with ACell. I know that PRP is controversial on this forum. Go ahead, I know someone is going to say I set my money on fire. But there is a study that shows reduced loss of the transplanted grafts (at one month, 60% of the patients in the PRP group had greater than 75% density in comparison to none in non-PRP group) and all subjects in the study had greater than 75% hair regrowth at the six month mark. And while Dr. Dorin does not make guarantees, he has posted on this forum some success with PRP during the FUE. I figured it was worth a shot. The hardest part for me was lying still when they implanted the grafts. I was able to watch Netflix, but something about telling me not to move at all makes my leg itch, my shoulder ache, and my feet determined to flop. While trying to do the hard work of keeping still, Dr. Dorin walked into the room and asked if I was cold. I was. He grabbed a blanket, put it over me, and made sure it covered my arms and feet. Look, lots of people can learn science. But I am sharing these moments so you know how compassionate and detail-oriented Dr. Dorin and his team are. I only wish I could remember more of the team's names (there was Lisa, Angela, Marcia, Yanilda, but I know and regret I am forgetting some). They all had the same caregiving approach. The entire process was over at 4:30, and Peter took final pictures. I excused myself to the bathroom for a chance to stare at my hairline. What a difference a day makes. They went over the post-op care. I got a bottle of Liposomal ATP to spray on the grafts and donor every hour, a surgical sponge to blot on the grafts when washing, and a cover for my pillow. They also gave me two Tylenol which was all the pain medication I had to take. Dr. Dorin showed me how to put on my baseball hat so it doesn't touch the grafts, and they warned me to watch my head getting into a cab. (Since it is numb, I might not judge space the same way and bump it, knocking out some fragile grafts.) I was starving and went home and ate a lot of sushi. Follow-up: The next day, I went to the practice at 9am and they cleaned my head and answered some more questions. Dr. Dorin took a close look. We talked about finasteride and he wrote me a low-dose prescription. I am still on the fence and the more I read the less clear I am. I have an appointment with my PCP this afternoon to get her opinion. I bought a 45 degree pillow, and wrapped a hoodie around my neck in place of the travel pillow I should have also purchased. Sleeping has been rough. But there has been zero pain and the redness is already starting to go away, though there's a bit of swelling developing on my forehead. And sure, it isn't an on-off switch. But now I can look in the mirror and not focus on what's getting worse but what's going to get better. Pics: Okay, okay, here are some pictures. -
Dr. Robert Dorin and True
gillenator replied to swolebravo's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Yes, you are in good hands with either doctor…many of Dr. True’s patients come back for additional procedures and why he is “semi-retired”, not fully retired…he also is very passionate about maintaining his high skill level which includes FUE and other progressive changes with instrumentation and surgical techniques. -
Dr. Robert Dorin and True
gillenator replied to swolebravo's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
So nice of you to ask…what some folks may not be aware of is that Dr. True has semi-retired and why you are recently seeing more examples of Dr. Dorin’s work. And thank you for the kind words and admonished respect for their work and surgical talents. -
I agree that no one should place their total faith in any one person, place, or list. My incentive is to keep this forum clear of agendas and misinformation. I have always said, do not take my word for it, but rather use the collective knowledge. So you see, I don’t disagree with that logic, as it is sound. Now, every surgeon on our list has been vetted by our community as a whole. There’s not one person approving any surgeon. It is the collective knowledge and experiences from many on this forum. Now, as for posting as authoritative figure, absolutely you are, when you post statements like this: “Well, I can understand your logic behind wanting to stay in the UK with the option of easily access to the clinic if any issues arise etc, but the blunt truth is that the UK generally has poor options for HT surgery, the very few one or two who are ok (at least in my opinion) are very expensive (and not as good as cheaper options abroad).” I think it’s quite clear that statement is coming from a position of authority, which is incredibly suspicious when you’ve just joined weeks ago. The average person may see your post and believe everything you’re saying is true. That said, if you are indeed a legitimate patient, then I look forward to you proving me wrong and sharing your detailed review of Dr. Pinto. -
Dr. Couto 2000 grafts 10/22/2020
miko replied to RMancini's topic in Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients
Hello guys, I had my personal consultations with Dr. Couto 3 weeks ago, after almost one year of waiting (I booked it in July 2020) and I have some new info about him. (I wrote more in my thread). Dr. Couto now schedules his patients on summer 2022 (it is not true that he is fully booked for several years) and he offered me date of surgery in September 2021, which is in 3 months since consultations, because of some patient cancelled his surgery. The price is 5,- eur per graft, because of I am repair case (normal price is 4,5 eur). -
Summary (because this review is long): Today is the 9th day after the surgery. I am very pleased with the Dr. Diep and her staff (so far.) Let's start with surgery info: Surgeon: Dr. Diep MHTA Clinic at Los Gatos, California Surgery Date: 11/12/2020 Procedures (graft): FUE (1411) + FUT (1211) Myself: Asian in my 50's with NW4 to 4.5. Start losing my hair since early 20's. Never take any med, tropical, roller, special shampoo, or anything for hair treatment (just too lazy to care.) My hair never give me trouble at work or dating. Live in the Bay Area and 20 miles from Dr. Diep's office. Reason on Dr. Diep: I have been following Dr. Diep's YouTube channel for more than 2 years and am impressed with the results. I also read a lot of reviews here and I don't see any justification for me to travel during Covid to see other doctors. My #1 requirement is not to screw up. #2 is nature hairline with good density at the front. I actually don't give a damn about the back since neither I can see it in the mirror nor I talk to others with the back of my head. Anyway, I decided Dr. Diep is the best fit for me. Cost: I was first quote $17k to perform 2K FUE to fill the front during the zoom consultation with Dr. Diep. When I got to the office, Dr. Diep was worry that I would not be happy with the density and suggest to go up to 2250 grafts. Since I am not a 1%er, I would like to stick with my original budget (I also heard Divorce is very expensive.) Dr. Diep then suggested to fill my front with FUE+FUT for $17k. Since I actually was undecided about FUE or FUT, I liked the suggestion. The Day of the surgery: Arrived at 7:30am shape. The office is at the very nice part of the Bay Area and is much bigger than I thought. The nurse then had me to fill out a bunch of forms that I read two weeks prior (same time the full payment was due.) I then chit chat with Dr. Diep for about 20 minutes about the surgery (procedure, med, and time), work, and also family. Btw, Dr. Diep is younger than me and I beat him on having much older children. Felt good since I likely retire sooner than him. The tech then lead me to a large surgical room (end up spent the whole day there) and Pam the nurse came in to buzz the back, front and the side of my head. (Pro-tip: If you decided to go with Dr. Diep, just have Pam to buzz off all the hair.) She was very nice but I told her not to quit her day job. I was start dozing off from the med and kind of in and out of consciousness. Don't quote me but my surgery probably starts around 10:30am. I aware there were two tech + Dr. Diep when they were getting the donors. The only time I was fully conscious was having my Pastrami sandwich (good), Fries (not good), and Apple juice (best I had ever taste but I think it is because of the med.) during lunch. I also aware that I may be bleeding a bit much (end up with IV) and talk a lot while I was out. I finally came back to full conscious when the two technicians (Kwan and Linsey) was injecting the hair to my head. I asked about the time and it was 11ish at night. We then spent about an hour making fun about the back to back Julia Robert movies (Pretty women + Sleeping with Enemy) on the TV. Dr. Diep would come in to check on us periodically and the surgery ends around 12:30am. Linsey then went through the aftercare package (med, shampoo, bandages, and shoulder pillow) while I pull my IV off my arm. She wasn't too crazy about it. Dr. Diep then spent couple minutes to give me a quick low down about my surgery (a lot of grey hair and it made things harder.) He was happy about the results after all and sent me on my way. After surgery: The pain was pretty ok. I took the Tramadol for the first two days and then just once a day Aleve afterward. I actually have more problems with the swollen and had trouble open my eyes two days later. I did not take any time off and went back to work the next day. I sent my photo to my boss and he told me not to get on zoom. I actually sent him another photo during the peak of my swollen, and he said never send him anymore photos. Things start looking up about four days later and the swollen was totally gone after 6 days. I still take Aleve right before bed time but it is more to do with the discomfort of the back of my head then anything else. Cleaning (day after): I went back to the office the next day afternoon to have my head clean. No appointment was needed. Jenifer the nurse was super nice and answered a bunch of dump questions that I did not ask the night before. It took about 20 minutes in and out. Billing mix up: I got a bill couple days later for some extra charges because my combined 2611 grafts are more expensive than $17K. I called the Monica the office manager and she was able to resolve it with Dr. Diep. Follow up call from Dr. Diep: Exactly one week after the surgery, Dr. Diep called my cell around 9pm to check on me. I can tell he just finished his shift and was getting in his car. He explained to me about the 14 hours procedure and the combination of FUE + FUT just took longer. He also apologized about the billing mix up due to the office manager did not read his note about the no charge. He ended the call to offer me a free ACELL injection ($600 value according to him) due to the billing miscommunication. Next steps: I have scheduled to remove the sutures in two weeks. An appointment with Dr. Diep for the first check up in four weeks. Overall: I am happy with the results and overall experiences. I can be just like many people her to nitpick stuff and expect the doctor to do everything perfect. You probably can tell by now that I don't take shxt too seriously. OK.. 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I'd like to add to the wealth of knowledge about Dr. Diep since it seems he has many reviews here that are mostly positive. The jury is still out on this one, but I have high hopes so far. I am 33 years old and paid ~16k total for this FUE procedure and it was booked about 9 months in advance. I *almost* backed out a few days before after reading some scary reviews on realself and after hearing Dr. Diep's reputation for using a large punch size, but I went ahead anyway since he had a solid reputation on this forum. I've always had a high hairline since I can remember (I recall a girl calling me out for a receding hairline when I was 16), but I don't think I actually had noticeable miniaturization occurring until about 27. My father is nearly completely bald, and my brother's hair (who is about 7 years old) has progressive hairloss that is a bit worse than mine. I would say that for most men my age that are suffering from pattern baldness, mine is relatively milder (likely due to my early attempts at treatment). Some might say I am crazy for getting FUE at this stage of hairloss, but it is bothering me enough and it is difficult to style the hair the way I want (I have a huge forehead so I generally wear it down and to the side). My hair is currently receding in the temple areas a few inches and I believe it is starting to thin in the crown area as well. Here is where my hair currently is: You can kind of see on the right side of the picture of my temple area where I think the hairline used to be - one sole surviving hair seems to be nice and thick still. As far as treatments go, I probably have propecia and keto use for the last 4 years or so to thank for the relatively minor hairloss I have (compared to my brother at least). I hadsides when I started propecia, so I experimented with dosage and and also used grape seed extract as a way to counteract the effects (I forgot the mechanism involved but I read about it a long time ago and it seemed to work). I landed on taking approximately .5 mg every 3 days. Any more often and I start to get foggy brain. I sometimes try to increase it to EoD but I just can't do it because the brain fog messes with my job performance. Anyway, on to the stuff you guys probably care about. I initially paid for 1750, but Dr. Diep convinced me it would be a good idea to at least give him an allowance of an extra 100 based on the line he drew to restore my hairline. I also went with the A-cell - cost wasn't that huge of an issue for me and there didn't seem to be any drawbacks other than extra cost: This was exactly what I was looking for - even though I was tempted to lower my hairline a bit since my forehead is so large, I decided ahead of time that I should keep it conservative and simply restore what I had previously. I didn't want to deplete all my donor hair in case I needed more in the future. I also wanted to avoid possibly having an artificial looking hairline by at least having native hair closer to blend in with the implanted hair. I've seen Diep do magic with hairline lowering, but I've also seen some less than stellar results so I didn't want to take any chances. The half a CM or so that it appears to be lowering is simply because you can't really see the few straggler hairs that had not yet receded. As far as how the procedure went, it was fairly typical as others on this forum have described. The Dr. was already working with a patient when I arrived at 7:30, and he told me that he would be done with that patient in the early AM and would be with me for the rest of the day (that turned out to be not really true - once he finished making the recipient incisions, he only came and checked on the technicians performing the implants every now and then). I was given a concoction of pills and then waited about an hour and a half before the doctor came to begin the extractions (around 9:30-10). I did not fall asleep like most others describe but I was fairly relaxed. I experienced some pain from the anesthetic injections, and also had some pain during some of the FUE extractions in a particular area, and I recall him giving additional anesthetic injections for that. I don't know what size punch he used, but he indicated during pre-op that he used between .9 and 1mm - he explained his reasons for the larger punch and while I am aware I could have insisted on a smaller punch, his results speak for themselves and I think its best to let the doctor do things his way. Many of the criticisms I've read thus far regarding the punch size have been focused on how the donor area looked just after the procedure, but I haven't seen any real criticisms of his donor areas in the long term - and I also had not read of donor reserves being unusable as a result. The FUE extractions came from the back and my right side, as seems to be common with Dr. Diep (and debated about in other threads). I think the jury is still out as to whether this should really be done, but I can say that the left side of my donor area is well preserved for any future need, though I am not sure I like how far near the right ear he went with the extractions. That said, I will generally not be buzzing my hair very short anyway (5 guard minimum) so I don't think this will be an issue for me - you can see from the photos how I generally wear my hear. He made sure to minimize any shaving of hair at my hairline since I plan to return to work after 3 weeks and I am hoping (though I am skeptical) to disguise the work with a mixture of clever styling, makeup, topik, etc. One criticism I had about this procedure is once the extractions/incisions were done and lunch was provided, I asked for another round of sedatives (xanex/valium) since what I had so far wasn't really doing the trick and I had much more time to remain in the chair. I wasn't provided that - I am not sure why. The second half of the procedure was fairly uncomfortable - I was generally conscious and could feel each insertion of graft (though no pain from it initially). The inability to move at all due to the inserting of grafts, combined with the very chatty techs who were talking/laughing very loudly inches from my ear talking about all sorts of things (strip clubs, dating, etc), and the lack of any sedative effect, made for a very uncomfortable 6 hour process. I believe they started inserting the grafts around 2pm, and when 5 rolled around or so and I was basically wide awake, I asked how much longer it would be, and I was told 2 hours. Well, 2 hours rolled by and I asked again how much longer, and I was told 30 minutes. The anesthetic had mostly worn off and I was starting to feel pain/pressure and decided to just power through it (they asked if I wanted the Dr. to come apply more anesthetic but I declined since they were almost done, I thought). But it took another hour and a half and everyone from the office was pretty much gone except the technicians and the doctor. The post-op instruction lady came in and decided to give me my post op instructions and sign it while I was still laying on the chair and getting grafts placed, which I thought was kind of odd (do you think I am going to remember this well while I am getting stuck with grafts?) I understand that things happen and just sometimes take longer, but I couldn't help but feel like there was a sense of being rushed at the end (techs complaining about being hungry and what not). By the time things were wrapping up, I was asking for the painkillers prescribed to try and get ahead of the pain that I could feel coming on. The painkillers they gave me did not seem to have any effect on me (Tramadol) so my girlfriend and I drove straight to the pharmacy, and wouldn't you know everything was closed by 10pm, and the one 24 hour pharmacy was out of percocet. Most people describe the post-op pain as being relatively minor but I was experiencing the worst head pressure/pain I had ever felt. I ended up quickly glancing through the post-op instructions and seeing something about how ibuprofen can be taken 4 days post-op and in my pain and dizzyness from the valium, believed that meant I could take ibuprofen and took 3 (turns out I wasn't supposed to do that because of the blood thinning effect). While his written instructions, if you actually parse out the language, say that you can take ibuprofen after the 4th day, it is very easy to misread the instructions if you are in a daze from the sedatives and in a lot of pain. I was mildly annoyed because my girlfriend had been in the waiting room since 4 pm and could have picked up the prescriptions for me as I had asked (but they declined to let her because they said they already had painkillers for me). A word about the post-op instruction packets - I also don't understand why there are two different sets of post-op instruction packets which address the same issues and in some cases are contradictory (one set of instructions are telling you how to clean the recipient area each day after surgery but the second set clearly says you should *not* touch the recipient area until day 4). Dr. Diep was very pleasant during the pre-op but I didn't talk with him much after the procedure. I believe he came in to check on the technicians about once every 30-45 minutes during the insertion of the grafts and to take final photos. I went to my first post-op wash and was hoping to get a rundown of how he felt about the procedure, but he was too busy when I was there, so I am hoping to catch him in one of the other cleanings if possible. Anyway, here is the stuff you guys probably care about: Other than taking ibuprofen after the surgery, everything seems to be normal. Once I woke up, i was no longer in pain and haven't really felt anything yet. The doctor told me the ibuprofen won't have any effect on the graft survival, it can just cause excessive bleeding from the donor area (doesn't seem to be a huge issue at the moment). I also apparently misinterpreted the pre-op instructions regarding smoking - the warning made specific reference to the dangers of nicotine - so I assumed that smoking marijuana was still OK (I used marijuana semi-regularly 1-2 times/week), and had smoked it 4 days prior to the surgery. Dr. Diep didn't like that but said it should be fine, but advised me to refrain from any marijuana use for an "entire year" ?!?!. From what I've been reading, it seems that the general MO is to refrain from smoking anything for a month or so, but after that I can resume. Cannabis has been show to inhibit growth of hair generally from what secondary sources I've read, but it doesn't appear from anything I could find that would cause the failing of hair grafts once the grafts are fully healed. If anyone has better information they could chime in? Anyway, thanks for listening. Any tips to disguise the hair implant would be greatly appreciated - I can't wear a hat as I work in a courtroom so its very important to look professional. I might also just need to fess up and tell everyone why I took a 3 week vacay - but we''ll see. Thanks for listening. -
Dr. Karadeniz - recent opinions/experience?
JohnAC71 replied to Kanadian's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Yes that’s totally true of Dr K. He is actually a skilled Dr. Shame he moved in to hair mill territory. Sounds like Dr Bicer isn’t a ideal choice unfortunately then. Be good to hear what Dr Bisanga is proposing ! I also think Hattingen do amazing FUT cases. -
I'm curious as well. He's had many glowing reviews on Quora, but it's hard to differentiate legitimate patients from shills on sites like those. I've been probing for more reputable patient experiences, and I've only found one on this website so far and a few on Reddit—all of which are too early in progress to judge conclusively. I had an e-consultation with him just a month ago. I'd love to buy into his clinic, but they have too many of the exact red flags this site warns us about: A too-good-to-be-true price A raft of shillish-sounding online reviews A hollow guarantee certificate A scarcity of legitimate reviews Any clinic with all that is too murky for my taste. It's also possible that they've simply been down on their luck; it's easy for even some top-rate clinics to get minimal clientele in a hair-transplant mecca like Istanbul. I have yet to find a categorically negative review for the clinic, which I was able to find for virtually every other hair mill. On the plus side, Dr. Yildirim performs the entire operation himself (rather than delegating too much to technicians as typical hair mills do), and they only focus on one patient per day. I'm leaning towards a Mexican clinic at the moment, anyway, but I'll definitely be curious to see these patient experiences come to fruition in the months to come before reassessing him. Just remember that it's better to spend extra money than to waste donor hair. -
Hey! I am 24 year old, and have limited beard growth and am looking to get a beard transplant once the covid restrictions are lifted. I wish to know which Doctor or Clinic is the best in Toronto to get a beard transplant. I found some names like Dr.Asaria and Dr.Robert Jones, everything look good on the web but want to know your realistic opinion of it. If the members here can give me some suggestions regarding which doctor/clinic is the best for beard transplant i would be grateful. Thank you. -
While I didn't create an account on this forum over the last couple of years it was invaluable in my research process and I want to pay it forward, especially since I seem to be seeing fewer patient posts with recent dates, at least for Dr. Cooley. Thus I will try to be thorough here in describing my process. Apologies in advance for the length of the post and the variability of the quality of the photos. I know they aren't the best. I am still only a few days/weeks out and will update this with before photos and after photos from the clinic and exact graft count(s) when I get them and try not to disappear throughout the process. My Past Situation I had an ill-advised FUT procedure when I was 21 to address temple recession. I wasn't on meds, it was premature, and I went to a cheap chop shop. CLASSIC, young guy being really stupid. :sigh The procedure (unknown # of grafts) involved putting grafts on the temples and unfortunately also some around the front of my hairline. It did very little cosmetically unless you count triggering massive loss of existing hair (most of which did grow back in fairness). The only saving grace here is that we were talking about a fairly minor temple area and because of my light hair/skin contrast I've been able to get away with a forward brush hairstyle that hid really poor work. Oh and it wasn't big plugs and the scar wasn't horrendous and avoided being in any disastrous region(s) thankfully. No matter what you do STAY AWAY from Samson Hair Restoration in Los Angeles regardless of what doctor they currently have cycled in. Why now Now, 11 years later at 32 with some additional thinning and some recession the previous work was becoming harder to cover, especially when swimming or my hair was wet. Plus, I just wanted it fixed to open up different hairstyles and to get ahead of managing what I believe will be future loss. Almost a gradual "replace" strategy I guess. In terms of meds, I had been on finasteride w/ no side effects for 4 years but then went off for 5+ years (don't really know why). I went back on 6+ months ahead in prep for a procedure and plan to stick with it this time. Not on finasteride or any other shampoos etc at the moment. Picking the surgeon In terms of research this time around I did a lot more homework using this forum as the basis for creating a smaller list of doctors. Ultimately I narrowed my list and research to consults with Lindsay, Bernstein, Cooley, Bloxham, and Nadimi. I felt these were really great doctors that didn't necessarily require a flight based on my East Coast USA location (I was intrigued by Rahal, Hasson/Wong/Kronior and some of the other staple of well regarded doctors as well but with only so much time felt good with my short list). I did not consider India/Turkey etc., not because I don't believe quality results can't be achieved there, but because I didn't want to take the risk and conduct an extra level of due diligence with respect to many of the practices and I was willing to pay $ for that peace of mind. Notes on my Consults During my consult with Dr. Lindsay I felt like he just didn't think I needed a procedure yet. He cited 1200 grafts and it was all relatively cursory. So not a fit for me Dr. Bernstein was a good consult (worth the cost) where I learned a bit and I felt comfortable with him and his work, but ultimately I wasn't blown away by the results I've seen from him either on his website or on this and other forums My consult with Bloxham was really terrific and I got a great feeling from him. He was ultimately my #2 but I did not choose him mostly because he is just relatively newer with fewer posted results. And right or wrong, some of the (rare/older) negative comments about customer service/interactions from Feller put me off. I did NOT have any of this sense from Dr. Bloxham and have never met Feller but the posts are there nonetheless. I will also say, they need to upgrade their facility. Not the medical side hopefully, but the rest of the place was old and run down feeling. Dr. Nadimi was also great (via Skype) and matter of fact but I got the sense she did more FUE than FUT. Similar to Bloxham there are just fewer patient accounts out there that I could find, but based on what I've seen and this consult I was very comfortable and impressed with her Why Cooley Ultimately, I went with the only doctor I didn't meet/ have a convo with directly in Dr. Cooley. I appreciated the consult with Lollie and a deeper understanding of their procedures and liked what I heard about use of Acell, how he preserved grafts out of body, his hands on approach, the tenure of his techs, and so on. But most importantly Cooley's track record of consistent results and patient experiences tipped me over (including one detailed repair write-up by a Blonde haired individual, of which there are relatively few results). I also literally did not find a single negative review (of outcomes) for Cooley in all my research and I valued that apparent consistency. Procedure - Why FUT I knew I wanted FUT as I (a) already had a scar I felt could be improved, (b) wanted to maximize future grafts and survivability, and (c) wanted to minimize recovery time. I am lucky enough to have a lot of Donor and existing hair that can be used to hide a procedure. Pre-Procedure and Day of All things posted about Cooley experiences were true for me. I followed pre-op instructions for scalp laxity. I think this helped as I could feel the sides definitely loosen up, and while the back still felt tight Cooley said it was great and helped with suturing (+ sutures out at 2 weeks vs. 3 weeks). The hotel they set you up in is excellent, easy, convenient and they already know why you are there and what you need. Shuttle drivers, check-in staff, and others there were helpful and discrete and the breakfast and gym is open early enough for day of eating and a last workout. On the day of the operation we met at 7am, had a calm and not rushed discussion where any other questions I had were answered, and re-affirmed my choice of 2500 FUT + PRP/Acell. In terms of hairline we were on the same page to opt for a conservative/mature hairline though Cooley jumped straight to the need for work on the temples which he said he does not always do. This process of agreeing on this was FAST as a lot of it was bridging existing hair and the past work plus a little bit of pulling temples out/down. In terms of PRP, Cooley was candid that for me he didn't know if PRP would make much of a difference as he didn't see a ton of minituraization but (a) I'm paranoid and think there is more than there is/I have very fine hair already, and (b) I am hopeful that it will help somewhat with avoiding shock loss or speeding up recovery. I know there's no real scientific evidence to back that up, but I was willing to spend the $ on the chance it helps. I will say that to make sure you get what you need before surgery begins you should 100% come prepared with your questions. For example in my consult with Bloxham he indicated that my past FUT scar had a small area branching into the danger zone for donor and advised forking the scar near my ear. I really did NOT want to do this, so asked Cooley about it. He decided to implant 10-15 hairs in the end of the old scar as part of the procedure and end the new scar in a safer location. I do not think we would have ultimately done this if I had not asked. H/T to Bloxham for noticing it in a really thorough, caring consult. I also asked about a few grafts poorly placed in the front of my forehead below the 7CM mark we agreed to for the new hairline. He said if I was OK With it that he would remove those with electrolysis which I agreed to and am relieved about as they were definitely not natural looking. Overall, it was a good conversation. I, like most others, felt comfortable and cared for by Dr. Cooley and all of his other wonderful team members. I do think the clinic could get better about having all their pre and post op documentation organized and sent in a big PDF but that's super minor overall and has nothing to do with the in-person interactions I had. One other area that I felt could be improved is in discussing recovery times. The clinic (not Cooley himself) were fairly aggressive in terms of discussing post HT recovery periods and timeline (no redness 5 days, not visible procedure at 8 days etc). It's not that they are totally off, it's just that they are definitely giving the aggressive, "best-case" scenario in my opinion and shaded this as an absolute vs. discussing the potential ranges of recovery times based on patient characteristics. Still thus far in my case it has proven to not be too far off the mark so far (devil's always in the details though isn't it). Procedure itself From the Cooley consult we moved into the procedure. Numbing/valium etc was painless. Unlike others I don't think I really went fully under for the ENTIRE duration of the procedure, I even heard a nice little "ripping" type sound on removal, but no pain whatsoever. By 11:30 the donor was removed, there were 5-6 technicians on the microscopes, I had had PRP and he had done the few electrolysis removals needed. I stopped for lunch and then we carried on. Cooley performed all of the donor incisions, with Brandi hovering nearby, and was present for probably 90% of the graft placement. I know for sure he was doing all the immediate hairline grafts. I believe he left for a little over an hour in the middle of the procedure (basically the length of a movie), but I'm not 100% on whether he popped his head in a few times during that time or not. While he was not actively working on my head Brandi was performing graft placement and I believe Amy also worked on placing grafts. Cooley returned and was essentially there the rest of the day long after many of the other techs had left post dissecting the grafts (easily 4-5+ more hours). It was clear he reviewed and had ample time to change, correct, or ensure any grafts not placed with him in the room were to his liking. Like others have mentioned it was clear throughout the day that this was a well-oiled machine, with team members that had worked together for years (decades even). Everyone was friendly and taking a dedicated and personalized approach to the operation, and I couldn't imagine going somewhere with a doctor doing multiple ops in a day. Throughout the process Brandi was constantly checking Cooley and making sure anything "controversial" about his approach was discussed (a few graft placements here and there, reminders about how many grafts were left etc). All of this was reassuring. I am sure the reverse also happened. Ultimately for the 2,500 graft procedure Cooley was able to get over 3,000 grafts (I will get exact counts later) and we did not finish the day until a bit after 7pm, meaning I was there for nearly 12 hours. This extra time and attention, plus the grafts that were not something I had to pay extra for, all speak to his long-running record of caring about his patients and working tirelessly to get results. I am obviously grateful for this. Post Op - Healing, Pain, and Experience (Week 1) Donor got painful at the end of the day during the operation so I was numbed up again before I went home. I was obviously a bit red and beat up but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting and they had already done a pretty good job cleaning a lot of the blood off. Plus I was wearing Saran wrap + a hat so able to avoid any weird looks. On night 1 I took some Tylenol but nothing stronger--which is good because I didn't get the prescriptions until day-of for stronger meds. Cooley's post-op care uses an ATP spray + saran wrap to increase moisture and prevent any graft damage and antibiotic ointment on the donor scar. You basically spray every hour you are awake and wake up and spray every 2 hours for the first 2 nights along with taking some preventative Prednisone for swelling. I followed the instructions religiously here and I think it really helped calm redness and speed healing. On night 2 I was falling back asleep pretty quickly so it didn't feel too onerous to keep getting up. For sure it kept the itchiness to a real minimum in the first 6 days. I went back the next morning for a post-op clean and got the all good from Dr. Cooley. During this cleaning Amy took time to answer any questions I had about the next week of care and was patient with what I am sure are the same questions everyone asks. In terms of the documentation they gave me to follow, I actually think it could have been a bit more detailed. It wasn't that it was bad, but I felt like an "FAQ" or just more exhaustive detail would have helped. For example, I asked about caffeine / alcohol / ibuprofen which were not listed (Cooley says moderate amounts of both are fine), and it doesn't give you much about how to sleep (when can you sleep sidweays on the grafts) and so on. To give you a sense of how smooth this was, I drove almost 7 hours home the very next day, which was completely fine and painless. Overall I found the post-op regimen easy to follow, the spray and saran wrap seemingly very effective even if I did probably use it too quickly/aggressively to try to get it through the native hair as I ran out a day or two earlier than I think the clinic expects. One curious thing with post-op care from the clinic is that it seems that Cooley's overall instructions,are more aggressive than many other docs (like the timeline to shampoo (next day) and return to regular shampooing (7 days) . I'm sure this is because Cooley is confident in the healing/quality of the grafts and incisions etc and has refined his approach over time but it does make me just a little nervous when looking at the instructions online from so many other places that are much more conservative. But he's my doc and I'm in his hands and so far so good. On night 3 I slept poorly but not really due to pain, I think I just missed exercise. On night 4 and 5 I had more pain when putting the back of my head on pillows (I slept elevated with an inflatable travel pillow partially inflated these nights to help with any potential swelling) and I did take a valium one night and the other pain killer + tylenol combo prescribed drug the fifth night. It almost felt like the donor was a little more stretched these two nights with whatever position I could find that didnt have too much pressure. If this continues I'll call the office to make sure it's normal. Some posters here have mentioned this as the return of nerve sensation but I'm not sure. Otherwise I have had some very very minor swelling which made me break out some ice on my forehead and eye area a couple of times and take ibuprofen periodically as well. It was never uncomfortable or especially noticeable to anyone else however. Last point, I am using the Hair Shake protein. I don't really think it'll do much but I've used protein powder a lot anyway so I don't mind and if it helps at all with speed of growth or minimization of shock-loss, then it's worth a couple months of it for me. I am not planning on using it long term and no one at the Cooley office actually mentioned it directly despite having it stocked there and having it listed as an optional part of the post-op procedure. Post Op Appearance - First Week The scar in the back is perhaps slightly visible with wet hair (first 3-4 days) but completely hidden with normal dry hair. As mentioned it wasn't giving me much trouble the first 3-4 days, although of course everything felt really "tight" there. At night or with pressure on it day 5-6 it actually has felt a bit worse and I've taken some of the prescribed meds just to make sure I get decent enough sleep. We will see of course on final healing and appearance, it is early days. Redness in the recipient has subsided each day, and now at day 6 is not bad at all. It's probably worse in the pictures than in real life. I am fairly pale skinned but had a deep tan going which some say can help. There is definitely scabbing, it is super mild/light and looks like when I return to regular shampooing and rub the grafts a bit it will easily flake off and be gone within the 7-10 day timeframe that they gave. In any case, it's really mild and not that noticeable. I have used their given shampoo and started leaving the conditioner in a bit longer which I think has helped. I have a couple spots of dried blood left but overall it's pretty clean and I haven't noticed anything remotely like grafts falling out. Really, not even many/any hairs yet. The kicker here for me is that I 100% had to hide from the world during this time because I was (a) spraying every hour and (b) couldn't style my existing hair for fear of touching/disloding existing grafts. So you could see the grafts taking hold and small stubbly hair, plus weird caked native hair that was a bit long already awkwardly plastered to my scalp. So all in all, a real lovely mess. Now had I managed this aggressively with a blow dryer on cool or if I was more comfortable touching and styling my scalp in this period I am sure I could have made it look better but I didn't want to take any risks. On Day 6 I did a bit of finger styling and with my existing hair I can make it look decent (see 1 of the pictures). Decent is not invisible however. The temples are harder to disguise and any close inspection things are definitely still visible so I feel I am very much still in hat land. To be fair, my wife says it's pretty hard to tell unless you get up close and personal already. We will see if my extended family at Day 11 notices anything. Summary of first week So far the difference from my first procedure has been remarkable. Basically instead of an immediate "oh shit what have I done" I felt more like a "I'm already looking better than I expected 12 hours later. and everything is going exactly like they said" It's nice to already feel like I made the right choice. The recovery seems to be text book according to their expectations, but I most certainly don't want to be out and about without a hat yet as it would be noticeable. The things I am worried about are (a) appearance at 10 days and masking it, (b) avoiding shock-loss as no work was done in the middle of the frontal third, and (c) continued management of the donor scar pain. All the rest is of course the standard, hurry up and wait, concerns about linear scar etc that we all have but if I can avoid shock loss I feel comfortable looking like I did for 6+ more months. I hope this is helpful and of course any feedback on the pics and actual quality of the work is welcome as well. Again, apologies on the photo quality I will get better ones from clinic later. I will try to post periodically as I hate the posts where people disappear but I also intend to try to live my life and not obsess over the progress over the next few months. -
Dear Forum, herewith I report about my hair surgery with Dr. Feriduni on 09/08/2020. A total of 3,782 follicles were placed. I hope that the report will help some of you. Of course, I am happy about comments about the pictures, which I will post regularly. 1. Why Feriduni and preliminary talks 2. Approach & Hotel 3. Step 1: Personal talk in the clinic 4. Step 2: The surgery 5. Step 3: Follow-up inspection and treatment 6. Healing process 7. Summary 1. Why Feriduni and preliminary talks I have had hair loss since I was 20 years old. Now, with 31, it became then sometime too much for me and I have dealt intensively with the topic hair transplantation. Five months passed between the initial decision to have a surgery and the actual surgery appointment - so it went relatively quickly. I started by reading through many reports in forums. (That is why I am writing this report to say "Thank you! 😊) And somehow I got involved with Feriduni from the beginning. His results convinced me the most. In addition, I simply could not find a single bad result of Feriduni. There are certainly other good clinics, but as I said, I decided relatively early. As you know it from most clinics, Feriduni offers a contact form on his homepage, where you can provide pictures and ask for a possible surgery scenario. The preliminary offer sent to me was more than satisfying. So I asked for the next step, what a personal conversation with Feriduni was. Due to Corona, however, this was a zoom meeting. But here Feriduni gained my complete trust through his professional, empathic and optimistic manner and I absolutely wanted to have a hair surgery. So I picked a free surgery appointment, took two weeks vacation and booked everything. Although my anticipation increased, the biggest uncertainty was that Feriduni could never "examine" me personally, but only via a webcam. Well, no risk no fun. 2. Approach & Hotel The cheapest and fastest way to get there was a flight to Düsseldorf and from there I took a rental car to Hasselt (about 1.5 hours by car). In Hasselt I stayed at the HasHotel, which offers special conditions for Feriduni patients. I can absolutely recommend the HasHotel. But make sure that you stay in the newly built building complex. The rooms are huge, modern and stylish. Costs for flights, rental car, fuel, hotel: approx. 900€ However, these are the costs for two people, because my girlfriend accompanied me and I covered all the costs. If I would have travelled alone the costs would have been reduced by about 350€. 3. Step 1: Personal talk in the clinic The day before the operation I went to the clinic for the first time and had a personal conversation with Dr. Feriduni. There we went through all data & facts of the preliminary talk again and my head was measured for the first time (dimensions & donor analysis). I was attested that I am a very good candidate for hair surgery. However, since my hair loss is not yet complete, I have to be prepared for one, if not two more surgeries in the course of my life. However, I knew this before or after my zoom meeting. But my donor gives away 13,000 follicles, which according to Feriduni is far above average. I was lucky. The last thing he did was to draw the hair line. Feriduni asked me constantly about my wishes, but finally I gave him a free hand. In principle, he considers everything for the hairline: the number of grafts in the donor for further operations; the general shape of the face as well as personal wishes. When the hairline was finished and I was more than satisfied, Feriduni asked me if I could just leave the hairline on until the next day. Normally, the line is drawn again on the day of the surgery, but Feriduni said that he could not make it better. And we would save time on the day of the operation itself. So I agreed and I walked around the rest of the day with a line on my head. 😊 For tomorrow's surgery 3,500 grafts are planned. But I was also told that the need for grafts during surgery may change again. 4. Step 2: The surgery At 7:30 a.m. I was picked up at the HasHotel by a cab at Feriduni's expense. Once I arrived at the clinic, I was assigned a personal room where I could change my clothes. They explained to me briefly what was going to happen today and then it already started. The first thing they did was to shave my hair. A short look in the mirror afterwards and I thought to myself: "Damn, looks actually quite good with 1mm. " Anyway, I am happy anyway. I then sat down on the operating chair and the anesthetic syringes were given to me. Absolutely painless. It was almost more painful to place the cannula in the crook of my arm for the saline solution. The anesthesia worked after a few seconds and I had to turn around to remove the grafts. This was by far the most strenuous part for me as a patient. For about 4 hours I lay on the operating table on my stomach and was not allowed to move. In the beginning it is all easy, but after a few hours you tense up and you feel an incredible pressure on your lungs. But you knew what you were getting into. So everything is not that bad. The removal of the grafts was done with two surgical aids and a third surgical aid, which took care of the counting. A total of 3,670 grafts were removed in this step. Dr. Feriduni then placed the slices. From now on I sat comfortably in the operating chair. I was offered to watch Netflix, which I did for a few minutes. But then I switched the television off again. Somehow I didn't feel like it at all and I think the sedative I was given kicked in slowly and I started relaxing and dozing. The grafts are placed all over the front area, so even where I still had hair. Dr. Feriduni said that these hairs will support the look at first, but if they fall out over time, I will still have a natural look. Next, the surgical aids put the grafts that were initially removed back into the slices that were placed right before. All unspectacular. You just sit there and do nothing but wait. You can't see what is happening up there. When all the grafts were placed, Dr. Feriduni decided after the checkup that he needed another 120 grafts. So I went through all the steps mentioned above again in a quick run until the desired final result was achieved. The whole operation took about eight hours. Dr. Feriduni said that 3,782 grafts for one day is a lot and that this does not happen too often in the clinic. This is also due to the fact that we worked through without any complications and without a break. (A break was offered to me, but I declined with thanks). The surgical nurses and Dr. Feriduni himself were very enthusiastic about my results. Of course, one cannot say whether they say this to every patient or whether it was really true. In any case, I did not have the impression that anything was being played to me. According to my unprofessional opinion, I am quite satisfied after the operation. Then post-op pictures were taken and I was finally allowed to take a cab back to the hotel, exhausted but happy at Feriduni's expense. 5. Step 3: Follow-up inspection and treatment The next day I went back to the clinic for a follow-up check and for washing. This was all done by a surgical aid. Unfortunately, I scratched my head the first night, so I lost exactly one follicle. Well, one follicle is bearable I think. But with that I was sensitized that I have to be very careful. That's why from now on I "tied myself up" with a bathrobe belt at night to avoid touching my transplanted grafts again unintentionally. Apart from that I was confirmed that everything looks very good. Then it was explained to me again in detail how I should use the care products that I received. This included a spray to be applied regularly, a lotion to soften the crusts and an oil against itching in the donor area. Also included was a shampoo for the first time and a cooling pad for the swellings. Medications were also included, which were used up after about two weeks. I also got an app for my cell phone, which shows me how to take care of my hair every day. Very helpful. In addition, the app uses a traffic light system to show what is prohibited and what is allowed (sleeping horizontally, sports, sex, headgear, etc.). Afterwards I started my return journey. By the way, completely without headgear. It was more important to me not to cause any damage than to be looked at in a strange way. But the latter actually did not happen. 6. Healing process - Day 0: No pain. Just a great feeling of pressure around the head. I took a painkiller pro forma to get a good night's sleep. - Day 1: Apart from the not painful but strange feeling of pressure on my head, I don't notice anything at all. - Day 13: I remove the complete crust after soaking my head in cling film with lotion half an hour before. The redness at the transplanted area is really limited. That was my biggest worry. - Day 14: It feels like everything has healed. From now on I only feel numbness in the transplanted area, but this is gradually diminishing. But even today (day 35) I still feel numbness. - Day 15: Tomorrow I will go to work again. After consultation with Dr. Feriduni, I may carefully trim my hair in the donor and reception area to 1mm with a hair clipper. This is what I have done. I actually like the look on 1mm quite well. Until today I wear my hair on 1mm. So far no one has noticed that I had a hair transplant. In principle, this would not have been bad, but of course it's quite pleasant if you don't notice it at work at all. Everyone just thought that I shaved my hair off. My plan now is to wear my hair on 1mm six months postoperatively and let it grow from then on. 7. Summary I am completely satisfied with how everything went. Of course I can't make any comparisons, but I don't know what should have gone differently or better. And since I'm only 1 month post-op, I can't say anything about how satisfied I am with the final result. But I am carefully optimistic. Many thanks to Dr. Feriduni and his whole team! If the result should be good, I will have my further operations performed by Dr. Feriduni without much consideration. Dr. Feriduni and his team act very professionally. It should be said that Dr. Feriduni is of course the boss in his clinic, but he acts at eye level with his assistants. Some of them have been doing the job for over 20 years and I have always felt that I was in good hands. For me it didn't matter at all that Feriduni didn't do everything himself. (Which wouldn't have been possible anyway with this number of grafts). Attached you'll find picture pre op, post op, 7 days post op, 10 days post op and 14 days post op. I will keep you updated. -
I don't let my hair grow as much as I did before the surgery. I did it because Dr. Bruno likes to have it as big as possible. I think he likes this so that he can understand how the hair grows and fits your head, so he can draw everything in the most natural way. In the pictures the hair is pulled back on purpose so we can see all of the bald area. It was done on purpose. The objective of those shots and that combed are not to make you pretty, but to emphasize the baldness. It's true, I'm way better with my head shaved than I was after the surgery. The thing is, I was always afraid of shaving my head because I always felt that my head was too big and that it wasn't going to be a good result. But I was wrong my whole life. I really like the shaved look and it will become even better after the second surgery. -
Work looks good, I'm sure you'll be a happy man come next year. Word of advice though, I'm in a somewhat similar situation as you, except I'm a few years older and my loss is a little bit less severe than yours was here, but you should really re-consider the use of fin. You said you only realised you were losing hair 3 years ago - what do you expect to happen in another 3? Even if it slows down and you're still ok in 5 years, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose more hair as time goes on and no one knows to what extent. Maybe you'll run out of donor, who knows. Not to mention the aspect of potentially chasing your hair-loss through surgery every X amount of years and having the financial and emotional burdens (recovery time etc) that this will incur. Just a thought, I see no reason not to give it a go and see how you get on. I understand you're afraid of sides but you should go and look at all of the long term clinical studies on finasteride. There are a fair few, up to the span of 10 years, with thousands of participants collectively involved - you can look up the incidence of side effects vs placebo, drop out rate due to sides etc and gain a more rational understanding of the likelihood and actual severity of side effects as opposed to reading horror stories in the echo chambers that are most hair loss forums. No one who is rational is saying sides don't exist, of course there's a possibility, albeit statistically slim. But if you took it and were really are convinced you truly had sides, then just stop taking it. The idea that they can be permanent has no scientific proof, and even if this was true (which I obviously do not believe) the chances would be so slim that they would be insignificant statistically speaking. Lots of drugs that people routinely take and don't bat an eye lid at have the (slim) potential for catastrophic consequences. An example being I had to have an anti-coagulant injection after breaking my leg a few years ago, right before being administered the Dr. casually informed me that there is a very small chance it could lead to fatal internal haemorrhaging of the organs, including the brain and leading to a massive stroke and causing death very quickly, and advised me to ring an ambulance straight away if I have any strange symptoms such as a severe headache etc. I still took it of course - as I'm sure tens and tens of thousands of people do every day across the world. Bit of a tangent, and I don't wish to have any debate about fin with anyone as it's been done to death a million times, but you see my point. It's ultimately your choice, but you might live to regret it big time. All the best with your growth anyways! -
Over the years I have had about 6,000 Grafts done over most of my head from Dr. True in NYC. I was mostly satisfied with the results but 2 years ago I had decided I wanted a little touch up in the front corner since it was the only area that I feel he didn't come out well and I felt I had enough donor hair to do the work. After doing extensive research and hearing all the great reviews I decided to go to Dr. Bloxham of Feller Bloxham who was closer to me and seemed to have more experience with FUE since I could no longer do FUT because of excessive scarring. Dr True was not comfortable and experienced enough to do it. I did one touch up of about 250 grafts and then came back a year later for another 150. And will tell you the results were excellent and natural and I still have a fair enough amount of hair in my donor area so that it looks full. Though both surgeons are very good I would put Dr. Bloxham a star above Dr. true for two reasons. Number one he is more experienced and confident with FUE procedure and secondly his bedside manner is by far much better. He takes the time to make sure you are comfortable and feeling no pain and is just more personable and friendly. As I said the results were excellent so if your planning on trying this I highly recommend him. BTW if you are coming in from NYC his office is about a 7 minute Uber ride from The Great neck LIRR train station and there is ample parking at the building if driving. -
Hello everyone, just wanted to share with you my results with ASMED Clinic. Ok, so, this is my second hair transplant.First one was made in Romania at the biggest clinic and paid 5900 eur for 3000 grafts (average 2 eur/hair) for something that didn't look natural and with very low density and always had to keep hair short. Two years later I researched heavily all the forums and online groups for the best solution as I only had few donor capacity and could not afford a screw up again.I got the chance to see a few results in Romania with customers from ASMED and they were very good. Even then I was retticent because everyone uses their best results to promote temselves and I was thinking that my intervention will never look that good anyway.Due to this pandemic and opportunity to stay at home while I recover I said to myself that I should start doing something. At that point I wrote to ASMED to get some price indications and see how they aproach my issue. I sent an email with some pics and then I had to fill in a more extensive evaluation form that was reviewd by Dr. Koray.Between my first communication and response with offer and all information regarding the intervention it took around two weeks (was ok for me because that ment that the Dr is not doing paperwork and chatting online and he's actually busy doing surgeries so this was not a minus for me, rather than a plus).The offer had three options available, different packages (consultation to preparation, extraction implantation, etc) depending on who you chose to perform it. I was going to spend all my money for a great transplant so I wanted to go full house on Dr. Koray to perform everything, but Andreea my medical coordinator, convinced me that all the staff is highly skilled and I don't have to worry if other members of the staff will perform part of the surgery. Her care and way of sending that trustful vibe was awesome. Even though I said I will never afford to risk anything or to be put in a position where I could scew it up I still trusted her and hell, she was right :).So, I chose to have only incisions done by Dr. Koray (still I was pretty nervous because I saw some awful results of unskilled technicians).Coming back to the evaluation, Dr. Koray said that around 5000 grafts will do the trick. All good, I chose the package, did a calculaton and said ok to the middle package with partial Dr. Koray and ASMED Team to do the surgey. I will not disclose prices as this is cleary something subject to change and it would not be fair to the clinic. Just a small hint - I could have saved so much hair and money if I would have done the first transplant with ASMED.Once we established to work together I payed a small amount to book the surgery and dates (6-7 October - 2 day intervention), bought my plane ticket and sent dates to Andreea.Date of arrival: landed in Istanbul, driver was waiting for me, discussed a lot about footbal , got to the clinic, performed the COVID test and all blood tests needed + EKG.After this Andreea took me to my room (clinic is state of the art) and ate. Food was way better than what I ate in lots of restaurants (I ordered what I want to eat before I left Romania so wow, that was awesome).Ok, so I ate, and had the day to myself until 5 PM, when Dr. Koray was performing the consultation. I wondered a bit in Istanbul close to the clinic and had one beer (oops - actually not allowed but I said what the heck it's hot and one beer at the terace is not such a big deal :)).Consultation with Dr. KorayI would say that I was a bit scared as I saw his face when he saw my donor was very poor and felt really dissapointed when i heard "I am very sorry but your donor is not that potent to support a new hair transplant for 5000 grafts and to lower your hairline that much as you want so we have to be carefull and create density, this is the main goal. Hair is thick enough but donor is poor and could only harvest 4500 grafts.I said ok and left with reality knocking me down.After this I went to the KE BOT Hair analysis that boosted my chances up when I realised that I have a lot of grafts with even up to 5-6 hairs and good potential for density. Also took the before photos and all and back into my room expecting the day of surgery.Day of surgeryHint: expect severe cold as the environment is designed to help the grafts survive and keep the medium aseptic probably.I had a very nice surprise to see what tech they have in there - WOW - I could see number of hairs, grafts, projection on my head, donor area, occipital, parietal, where to extract from, where to place the hairs, everyhitng top notch. Even all the hairs that were implanted were counted real time.I don't remember the name of their anaesthetis but he was funny and very kind offering true comfort.Surgey went smooth, pain was quite manageable and cold senstion was solved with a heated blanket.Surgery day2: same thingEach morning the team washes the implanted an donor area and you have to do this until 10-11 days for the scabs to fall off. After the two days spent in the clinic, I flew back home and started to count the days to see my results. I was very panicked because if this transplant would fail... I had no other option and had to live a bald life. Within the first two weeks, hairs started to shed and even though I know this is the normal process, it was like a piece of me was dying with each hair falling off. After the two month period (ugly duckling phase) I started to see the new babies Initially I was not happy with the density and had to keep it short because not all sport were covered by hair but eventually after 4-5 months density started to fill in all the sport and I see new hairs still as I am in my 9th month since the transplant. Will add more photos of before and after. This is what i Had on my phone. Happy growing guys! -
This patient was a Norwood Class 5 with slightly wavy, medium weight, brown hair. He has a donor density of 2.3 hairs/mm2. He had 1 hair transplant session totaling 2,016 follicular unit grafts. His after photos were taken 18 months following his hair transplant surgery. Before hair transplant 18 months after hair transplant Top view before hair transplant Placement of grafts Top view 18 months after hair transplant Donor area prepped Robotic harvesting of donor area Donor area 10 days after procedure Donor area 18 months after hair transplant -
Dr. Reddy’s work looks so incredibly clean. He’s a true craftsman.
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Hello everyone, I underwent a hair transplant from 8 to 10.03.2021 with Dr. Kaan in Ankara and am now 8 days post surgery. As a silent reader, I have been following the posts here in the forum for quite some time and have been able to gather many important insights for my own HT. In this context, I would like to share my experience report with you in order to possibly also serve as a help for others. True to the motto: Give it back to the community! Background - 26 years old - Hair loss for about 5-6 years - Medication: Minoxidil (stopped due to severe shedding and irritation), Finasteride since 2018 Why Dr. Kaan? - Expertise in donor management due to my young age - FUE including manual harvesting - Doctor takes care of all essential processes himself - Very good results in various forums (here, Alopezia, BelliCapelli) - Comprehensive consultation and analysis of my situation including previous history - Friendly and informative communication via contact person Arrival and hotel - PCR test (Corona) and complete blood count in Germany - Direct flight on 7.3.2021 via SunExpress from Düsseldorf to Ankara - Pick-up by the driver went smoothly - The hotel "Atakösk" recommended by the clinic is at most okay, but the location (maximum 200m to the clinic) is great Clinic The clinic is well equipped and very modern. It is especially nice that you are the only patient and therefore really relaxed. It is also nice that you have your "own" lounge. There are various drinks and small refreshments available for the breaks. Planning and surgery Every surgery day started at 8 am. On the first day, after a pleasant meeting with Dr. Kaan, we planned the operation. We discussed the pros and cons of various options and finally agreed on 3100-3200 grafts to fill the front and the midscalp with a density of about 50 per cm2, which decreases slightly towards the midscalp. Afterwards, the hair was shaved and the procedure began. The anaesthesia and the injections are not that bad and were easy for me to bear. The only unpleasant part was lying on my stomach while the grafts were being removed. As far as the timing is concerned, in my case about 500 grafts were taken out and then there was a short break. Then the grafts were inserted. After this procedure there was a lunch break. The food during the lunch break is good and tasty. This procedure was repeated for the next two days and was altogether more bearable than I had expected. I did not need painkillers on any of the days of the operation. Only lying around for a long time is a bit annoying, but since I often fell asleep during the operation, this was not a problem on the whole. It is also important to mention that you have the possibility to contact Dr. Kaan after each day of the operation in case of complications. Aftercare The bandage was removed, the donor was smeared with Bepanthen and saline solution was applied to the recipient. Afterwards, Dr Kaan examined me again and told me that everything looked very good. I was also given the post-operative instructions and given medication and lotion. Afterwards, I was able to ask Dr. Kaan open questions. Conclusion All in all, I felt very well looked after. I was particularly impressed by the doctor's friendly manner coupled with his expertise. The fact that only one patient is treated per day is also a great advantage in my opinion. I have the impression that Dr. Kaan sets the highest standards for himself and does everything for a good result for his patients. I am now hoping for a good result and looking forward to the coming months. I will try to update this post on a monthly basis and post transparent and honest pictures. If you have any questions, I will try to answer them as best as possible. Greetings Tug- 18 replies
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Ok, so, this is my second hair transplant.First one was made in Romania at the biggest clinic and paid 5900 eur for 3000 grafts (average 2 eur/hair) for something that didn't look natural and with very low density and always had to keep hair short. Two years later I researched heavily all the forums and online groups for the best solution as I only had few donor capacity and could not afford a screw up again.I got the chance to see a few results in Romania with customers from ASMED and they were very good. Even then I was retticent because everyone uses their best results to promote temselves and I was thinking that my intervention will never look that good anyway.Due to this pandemic and opportunity to stay at home while I recover I said to myself that I should start doing something. At that point I wrote to ASMED to get some price indications and see how they aproach my issue. I sent an email with some pics and then I had to fill in a more extensive evaluation form that was reviewd by Dr. Koray.Between my first communication and response with offer and all information regarding the intervention it took around two weeks (was ok for me because that ment that the Dr is not doing paperwork and chatting online and he's actually busy doing surgeries so this was not a minus for me, rather than a plus).The offer had three options available, different packages (consultation to preparation, extraction implantation, etc) depending on who you chose to perform it. I was going to spend all my money for a great transplant so I wanted to go full house on Dr. Koray to perform everything, but Andreea my medical coordinator, convinced me that all the staff is highly skilled and I don't have to worry if other members of the staff will perform part of the surgery. Her care and way of sending that trustful vibe was awesome. Even though I said I will never afford to risk anything or to be put in a position where I could scew it up I still trusted her and hell, she was right :).So, I chose to have only incisions done by Dr. Koray (still I was pretty nervous because I saw some awful results of unskilled technicians).Coming back to the evaluation, Dr. Koray said that around 5000 grafts will do the trick. All good, I chose the package, did a calculaton and said ok to the middle package with partial Dr. Koray and ASMED Team to do the surgey. I will not disclose prices as this is cleary something subject to change and it would not be fair to the clinic. Just a small hint - I could have saved so much hair and money if I would have done the first transplant with ASMED.Once we established to work together I payed a small amount to book the surgery and dates (6-7 October - 2 day intervention), bought my plane ticket and sent dates to Andreea.Date of arrival: landed in Istanbul, driver was waiting for me, discussed a lot about footbal , got to the clinic, performed the COVID test and all blood tests needed + EKG.After this Andreea took me to my room (clinic is state of the art) and ate. Food was way better than what I ate in lots of restaurants (I ordered what I want to eat before I left Romania so wow, that was awesome).Ok, so I ate, and had the day to myself until 5 PM, when Dr. Koray was performing the consultation. I wondered a bit in Istanbul close to the clinic and had one beer (oops - actually not allowed but I said what the heck it's hot and one beer at the terace is not such a big deal :)).Consultation with Dr. KorayI would say that I was a bit scared as I saw his face when he saw my donor was very poor and felt really dissapointed when i heard "I am very sorry but your donor is not that potent to support a new hair transplant for 5000 grafts and to lower your hairline that much as you want so we have to be carefull and create density, this is the main goal. Hair is thick enough but donor is poor and could only harvest 4500 grafts.I said ok and left with reality knocking me down.After this I went to the KE BOT Hair analysis that boosted my chances up when I realised that I have a lot of grafts with even up to 5-6 hairs and good potential for density. Also took the before photos and all and back into my room expecting the day of surgery.Day of surgeryHint: expect severe cold as the environment is designed to help the grafts survive and keep the medium aseptic probably.I had a very nice surprise to see what tech they have in there - WOW - I could see number of hairs, grafts, projection on my head, donor area, occipital, parietal, where to extract from, where to place the hairs, everyhitng top notch. Even all the hairs that were implanted were counted real time.I don't remember the name of their anaesthetis but he was funny and very kind offering true comfort.Surgey went smooth, pain was quite manageable and cold senstion was solved with a heated blanket.Surgery day2: same thingEach morning the team washes the implanted an donor area
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