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Hello everyone, I started to look around for an hairtransplant and I have been in touch with different clinics in Instanbul. Unfirtunately I feel I don’t know who I can trust, the reviews could be fake, you tubers could be payed, this is the first time of my life that I find internet kind of limitating for lack of objectivity. Thanx to this forum we elaborated the write questions to ask and I did the same questions to different clinics. 1) Estimated no of Grafts required for the Front and crown? 2) What level of density is practically possible and what is the doctor's views on donor area density? 3) Size of punches used? 4) What facilities / doctors of available in case of an emergency 5) What hairline is suitable for me 6) What medications are recommend for post surgery 7) How are the extracted hairs and how are maintained before being inserted 8) What parts of the HT is done by the doctor (Hairline design, local anaesthesia, extraction, slit making, implantation of singles on hair line, rest of implantation?) 9) Which are the difference between fue and DHI ? Here below their answers clinic by clinic Elithairtransplant 1) only front as you still have too much hair on the top 2) your donor area is quite strong and density is always maximum (70 to 90 grafts / cm²) 3)0.5 mm 4) usually there are no emergencies , you stay always in contact with us especially after operation and you need to send photos regulary for Dr. Balwi to check your growth etc. 5) Dr. Balwi draws the hariline in the clinic as he needs to check your muscle strands in the upper third of your face 6) we give you all medication you will need (antibiotics, anti-swelling pills and pain killer) + aftercare package with hat, shampoo, lotion, neck pillow 7) sapphire fue (micro motor) and maintained in a nutriance liquid before implantation 😎 The good results you see on our websites, youtube, pictures... are the results of our team. We give a 30 years guarantee, because Dr. Balwis team is performing the surgery. He can guarantee a specialst for the anesthesia, who does it everyday, a specialst for opening the channels, who does it everyday and a specialst who implants the grafts. Without his team, we could never give this guarantee to our patients. You can be sure, that the result will be excellent. Of course Dr. Balwi is there and leads the operation. But believe me, that our specialists have a lot of experiences and our clinic is one of the best in Istanbul. Not only the structure, hospital structure, the experience and also the quality. Dr. Balwi will lead the operation and you will talk just to him before the surgery, he draws the hair line ecc. and his team of specialists perform the hair transplant. It is not just that it would be more expensive, if Dr. Balwi would do it by himself, it is because the team works together since over 7 years and everybody knows exactly what to do. 9) we do sapphire fue and DHI Sapphire Fue is a micro motor with micro cuts in the back for extraction, no scars. Dhi is *direct hair implant* with a pen and no micro cuts,also no scars👍 The healing process is a bit faster with dhi than sapphire fue. The result are excellent with both techniques, that's why we offer the 2 best methods. CLINICANA Exactly sir about the number of the grafts as we mentioned you here before sir we have the chance to extract about 3600 - 3700 grafts (also this number of grafts it's not the final number first of all we will go for a live consultation with the medical team we will check your case , we will draw the first hairline to you and then we can decide about the final number of grafts. We will plant the areas number 1,2 and 4 which front and crown regarding your case you'll be happy with the results sir why? Because we have 2 advantages 1. You have thich donor area which is a strong advantage for us 2. You don't have that big balding areas So in this case we can have very successful results with very high density And for the crown area we will advice you to keep massaging the crown area very well because the blood circulation there not very good as the front and upper parts so you have to keep activating the blood circulation in the crown area 4) regarding the emergency case : regarding that we are working in a private hospital and we are already covered by the hospital so in case of any emergency even during the operation we have an infection dr , dermatologist, general dr plus our plastic surgeon and all the drs are available to help the patients And also after the operation in case of any patient needs anything we informed the hotel ( if you are going to stay in our hotel) they can bring the patinet directly to the hospital anytime 5/ we can't decide about the hairline now sir before starting the operation we will go for a live consultation with the medical team we will ask you to raise your eyebrows and over the last bored of the muscles of your forehead we will start drawing the first hairline to you 6. Pain killer , anti inflammatory, antibiotic, stomach protector, aspirin, The operation it self 3 stages Grafts extraction Opening the micro channels Grafts implantation From where we will start we can't decide now because for every patient different treatment plan Depends on the number of the grafts We extract the grafts normally We open the micro channels to receive the grafts And we will implant the grafts later 😎 About who will do the operation: Our surgeon prof.soner tatlidede he will be the *supervisor* of the operation from a to z with his huge and professional medical team each one of them has her own profession for example someone to open the channels, and someone to extract the grafts, and another one to plant the grafts ( *same team doing the same procedure more than 9 years*) https://www.clinicana.com/about/hair-transplant-doctors-turkey/ FUE DHI or FUE PERCUTAN: Once we have limited baldness area, or it's a must not to shave the hair (even that the results will be moderatez), possible to use DHI, by this technique it takes long time to inject the grafts in the pens then to the targeted area, therefore possible to plant about 2500 grafts by it.. Note: Many centers mention that they do 4000 grafts of more by DHI, in fact it's not true, they do both in the same operation without the patient knowledge. FUE Percutan allows us to plant high number of grafts, so 3000 up to 5000 depends on the donor area, on the other hand as we open all channels then to plant the harmony of sorting out the holes in the scalp will be very natural *Methode:* We use 3 differant methods to give you the best possible result 🏆🥇 *1. Collecting the grafts* by method *MicroFUE:* the head of the punch will be choosen by the plastic surgeon while the procedure (0.7, 0.75, 0.8) up to the type of your own grafts. No scars after the procedure. *2. opening the channels* by Method *Sapphire:* we use the lastest technology that has many benefits such as fast healing, more number of channels opening because of the sharp small head that sapphire stone has. *3. Selective implantation Method* gives natural look, We select the grafts that include 1, 2 or 3 hair, we implant single grafts in the front area to give a natural look, the double and triple grafts will be implanted after the hair line. DOTTOR CINIK 1)Dr. Cinik’s team has reviewed the pictures of your head, your treatment plan will be by implanting about 2500-3000 grafts to your balding and receding areas with PRP treatment. The grafts will be distributed to front,sides and and crown area with FUE method. With this treatment plan we will be able to fix your hairline, cover 100 % of your baldness and increase the density level of your hair. Doctor will decide after examinate you 2)your donor is a 9 out of 10 which will give you a perfect density 3)???? 4)4. Dr.Cinik, ER nurse, supervising nurse. We have an ER room in our hospital which is fully equipped also a full service hospital within walking distance 5. what do you mean ? by what hairline ????? 6.here is a list 7.they are maintained on ice grafts 8. depends on the package you purchase please review carefully the packages I sent you 9. DHI is for people with less balding are by implanting around 2000-2500 grafts and for a smaller area more dense. In your case since your crown is getting bald too it is not applicable . FUE is the suitable treatment for you COSMEDICA 1)I check your photos, We can transplant for your treatment about 2000-2500 grafts can cover the front baldness area with natural result 2)your donor areas density is looking amazing and baldness areas is not so big so it ll be enough without damage 3)we use 0.7-0.8 mm punch for extraction 4)we are big hospital so everytime we have dr in the clinic for emergency help 5)we can draw frontline in here first one we need to see your face muscles for that we can nor understand with pictures that. 6)??? 7)we use micro motor for extraction we use petri and steril solution not ACELL and under this petris we put ice boxes 8)Dr Acar perform incision step himself with vip packageis supervisor in the surgery other steps by team gold+gold plus package dr is just supervisor. 9)??? guys what do you think I am impressed by the before after of Elithairtransplant. but eheh modify a picture take a sec... what are your impressions about their attitude? i hope is for everyone use! massimo -
Dear Bill, Pat and Melvin, “However, we have put up with it because you do provide some sound advice and you haven’t blatantly broken any rules.” Bill the “publisher”, May 21st, 2019 https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/54103-hw-hattingen-konior-feriduni-devroye-or-bisanga-for-fut/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-509774 I’d like to take this moment to express my sincere appreciation for the “tolerance” I’ve received over the past fifteen years and over 7000 posts. The sheer strength it has taken to “tolerate” me for such a long time is nothing less than monumental. You should really pat yourselves on the back for such an achievement. I admit, reading my posts where I comment and encourage patients that have gone to doctors that I have never worked with, giving advice to posters that I have never had any personal contact with, and with no inclination of engaging with on any professional level, and assisting your members with all manner of problems based on my experience(s) in the hair transplant field as a profession, must have been absolute torture for you. The poison that you describe as having come from my participation in a thread where I was personally attacked for zero legitimate reasons is also evidence of your strength and wisdom as you clearly know something that I do not. But whom am I to question such greatness? Thank you, sincerely, for tolerating my presence. To all of the great HTN members, I’m sorry it has come to this. In case some of you are wondering what this is about, I wrote an article for a popular men’s blog that has gone viral throughout the English speaking world and in this article I outline twenty of the top hair restoration surgeons worldwide. I was then attacked, without provocation by an HTN member doctor for the sole reason of his exclusion from the article, even though I was very clear in that the list was not to be considered exhaustive or complete. The doctor saw fit to delete his posts and I in turn was happy to delete my comments back to him. No harm, no foul. However, when I questioned the additional edits by HTN moderators which included additional post deletions by members which were quoting the doctor, and comments that were left to defend me, I made a comment about the selective editing that had occurred. Ironically, one post remains by Melvin, the “co-moderator” which supports the doctors attack on me; “I don’t think that Dr. … said anything bad, in fact most of what he said is true.” My comment stands; “Some very interesting/selective editing on this topic.... “ If it has not become obvious as this point, I think that the target upon my back is getting to be a tad heavy as I do not possess the “physical and mental fortitude” that Bill obviously has that has allowed him to tolerate me for the past fifteen years. So I would like to close by saying that I have appreciated all of your comments and support through the years and I have been so blessed with watching so many of you find the follicular salvation you have been seeking. For that, my time here has been massively rewarding. With the comment made by Bill where he clearly states I’ve been helpful and haven’t broken any rules (not “blatantly” but otherwise?) it is more clear than ever that for those of you that have garnered enough knowledge to the point that you know what you’re talking about, you’re a threat to the status quo if you question those that would seek to control what you see and hear. I wish for my account to be closed and I wish you all the very best for the future. Thanks for everything. Moderators deleting or modifying this post in five, four, three… Regards Spencer ( Spex )
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Well that is certainly the understatement of the year. It’s interesting how Spex will take one negative comment I made out of dozens if not hundreds of supportive statements I’ve made about him over the years and blatantly overreact and use that as a means to not only leave this community but attack me and make me sound like a bully. The reality is, all I did was remove comments from Dr. Hasson who already essentially “removed” his own posts by editing his comments, changing them to the word “deleted”. So, any reply to Dr. Hasson didn’t make any sense and thus, I removed those as well. Now, forget whether or not anyone felt the doctors comments were appropriate or not… that is not the issue here. The issue is that Instead of contacting Melvin or I privately and expressing concern or simply asking a question, he decided to sarcastically and unprofessionally make a snide remark making it sound like we are participating in foul play. This is certainly untrue, unappreciated and unprofessional. So I reply to him calling him out for peddling his own agenda. So wrong about that and what’s on True about it? Specs is a self promoter. There’s no question. He has a website dedicated to himself and while it’s good or bad, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a self promoter peddling his own agenda. Does he help people? Sure. I’ve mentioned that which is why I said what I said. But is there any question that he’s a self promoter? There shouldn’t be. I’m sure Spex gets paid very well for everything he does. Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with getting paid as long as you’re working in the patient’s best interest But for him to accuse us of an agenda when he blatantly self promotes on this forum is not only offensive but sort of like the pot calling the kettle black. Now as for Spex, if he wishes to play the martyr, that’s his prerogative and yet more examples of his self seeking agenda. With the record, we have not banned him or suspended him. Leaving this community is his choice. So I guess at this point, we will all wish Spex good luck and hope he works in the best interest of prospective patients regardless of where he posts. But since he has chosen to leave, there’s no sense in continuing to discuss it. That is his choice and we will honor his choice. Bill -
Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time reader of this site while I’ve been on my own hairloss journey, and similar to many other people, I’ve decided to share my story and details of my procedure here to help anyone else who may be planning a similar path and would like to see my experience. The background I’m now 33, and I initially realised I was thinning around 10 years ago. My older brother thinned around a similar time, my Grandad was bald though my Dad (in his 60's) still has thin hair coverage. Initially it was just on the crown of my head before it thinned on my temples and I tried a number of solutions before realising I needed to take Finasteride and to look into Regaine / Rogaine products. I joined the hair restoration programme at Boots here in the UK, and paid the equivalent of £1 a day for Propecia. I’m very fortunate in that I don’t think I have had any side effects at all! I tried Regaine, but after a year I really didn’t notice any difference so I stopped it. About two years ago, when I moved to Barcelona, I started taking a generic form of Finasteride which is available over the counter in Spain. It’s in 5mg pills which I cut into four segments and I take one a day, at a cost of about 10 Euros for about 4 months’ worth (far more cost effective…). I also began shaving my head short (not skinhead, but shortly cropped) – and I had a micropigmentation procedure (basically a tattoo on my head) that certainly helps my head look a darker shade, but didn’t really solve the hairloss issue. While I feel happy that the finasteride has slowed down the hair loss and the pigmentation procedure helped disguise my situation, I’ve never been happy with the crown / corners of my hair and so I’ve worn either Toppik or Mane Hair Thickening Spray (dark brown) for a while which I feel covers up my hair loss really well. However, as soon as I lean against a white wall or sleep in a bed that doesn’t have dark bedsheets, I leave behind a black mess and I always knew I’d go down the hair transplant route one day. Plus I was recently with a dude who ran his hand through my hair then saw the black mess on his hand and was like ‘what’s this?’. Let’s just say I’d prefer not to deal with that kind of embarrassing situation again. Deciding on the hair transplant An ex of mine told me he’d gone to Este Grande in Istanbul for his transplant but it seemed a little too cheap to be true. He’s only just had his procedure and I think it looks great, but it’s too soon to tell and I didn’t want to choose price over quality reviews. Another ex had gone with DHI Global in Greece (I seem to have dated a lot of people with hair loss issues huh?), though I’d read some reviews of DHI that didn’t make me feel confident. I used these forums and found out about Dr. Erkan Demirsoy / Armamed and took some time looking through his work and reading through forum posts from people who’d chosen him, and I was sold. As I don’t need to create a new hairline (just lots of focus on the crown and temples) then I feel confident that for his price, it would be the best for me. He’s quoted me the standard 3500 – 4000 hairs, for 1.25 Euro a graft. I booked, and fortunately he had space in about 6 weeks’ time from when I booked. Today I'm flying from London (where I currently live) into Istanbul and my procedure is tomorrow on April 17th. I fly back to the UK on the 19th where I’ll spend a week with my family recovering and stuffing my swollen face with Easter Eggs. I’ve included some pictures here which show my hair before the MSP procedure and after the MSP procedure, and my current situation where I’ve grown my hair a bit which will help Dr D see the whole hair picture, which isn’t so easy to see due to the MSP procedure I had. You may notice my hairline isn’t all that straight (ironically) but that doesn’t really bother me – I’m happy with where my hairline is and would only want the temples filled in. I usually use Mane HT spray as I think it provides a really good cover up solution and some of you reading this may find it’s a better, temporary solution while you consider the transplant path. Final words I’m really looking forward to the procedure and will do everything I can to get the best yield. I’m a non-drinker or smoker, and I'll do my best to follow all the professional advice I can to get a good result. I play sport a lot – mainly cycling, lots of rowing, weightlifting and I walk everywhere so I’ll be keen to get back into that afterwards. My biggest fear in all this is being 6’5” (195cm) and the fact I hit my head everywhere I go….the metro…doorframes…lampshades…low hanging branches. Finally, something I’ve learnt from what I’ve read is to manage my expectations. I’m not expecting that I’ll come out of this (after a year) with a full head of hair. I just want MORE hair in the places that are thinning, and to not feel like I’m 53 when I’m 33 and to not leave a dark brown trail mark in white areas. All future posts will be shorter but I wanted to give you the background to my journey. The following post will show the pictures on surgery day and please feel free to ask me anything or comment as I’d love to share my experience with you all. -
Brahmabull this is now your 5th account. You’ve been suspended previously for making inappropriate threads. I’ve already reached out to Dr. Keller, regarding your dissatisfaction. At this point we can’t have you continually recreating accounts to fit your narrative. The bulk of the grafts were places in the hairline that by your own admission looks better. Unfortunately, hair transplants do not create true density and your expectations were never realistic from the jump. I will be locking this thread -
Well, I finally went through with my HT on the 7th of May 2009! I'd firstly like to thank Pat and Bill for this extremely useful forum resource and all the dedicated work that has been done to inform prospective HT patients to be well-informed the first time around. Hats off to you guys for this! Thanks also to fellow Rahal patients Canadian Buba and Eman for filling me in with in-depth details of their experiences of what to expect throughout this whole process. Okay, without further ado, here's my account of events as they unfolded, leading up to my surgery with Dr. Rahal. I've just copied and pasted this from the blog entry I made, so click on my blog link below to see the pictures. Thanks! I awoke early on the 4th of May 2009, after only 4 hours of sleep. Boarded my plane at Melbourne's Tullamarine airport (Australia) at 10am. As I walked through the metal airport security gates, I knew that there was no turning back and I was really going through with this Hair Transplant gig! After a 4 hour flight, the plane stopped in Auckland, New Zealand with a stop-over of several hours. Then, jumped back on the plane from NZ direct to Los Angeles - all up, 17 hours of flight time just there! Upon arriving in LA, I was scrutinized very carefully by a rookie customs official who was apparently still learning the ropes. Had to go into immigration for questioning, as they got my passport confused with someone of the same namesake who had been running drugs into the United States via the Caribbean. Yikes! I thought they were going to put me on the next flight back to Australia and that I'd miss my appointment with Rahal. But to cut a long story short, after much inconvenience I was allowed to proceed. Another four hours later, I boarded my flight from LA to Toronto, which took 4.5 hours. Started watching Valkyrie with Tom Cruise mid-flight, which was almost enough to put me to sleep... but not quite. I think I was analyzing Mr Cruise's hairline most of the time, rather than comprehending the actual film. After reaching Toronto, I had yet another waiting period of 1.5 hours. I was also questioned by customs and immigration at Toronto's Pearson airport and had to tell the immigration dude about my HT procedure. The customs officer really perked up when I mentioned that I was staying at Adam's Airport Inn, because apparently he'd stayed there himself on the one and only occasion he'd been to Ottawa. I guess that must have earned me some brownie points with him, because he let me through right after that. All in all, I found customs coming into Canada to be much, much better than those coming into LA! Finally, I was onto the final stretch of my very arduous journey -- the one hour flight from Toronto to Ottawa. As the plane touched down in Ontario, everything felt a little surreal. I had been in transit for over 24 hours and awake for even longer. I was mere minutes away from the fabled Adam's Airport Inn and Bank Street, which, until that point in time, had only existed to me on the virtuality of the Internet. After escaping the very last airport I jumped into a taxi and moments later, I arrived at the inn, greeted by that huge, red, glowing sign! Inside I was greeted warmly by Jallal, the night manager. He gave me a tour of all the facilities, and finally the key to my room. Sorry about the rambling, but the point of all the above preamble is to provide an accurate and honest account of the amount of travel and inconvenience I was willing to endure in order to ensure I received top results from a top Doc. Seriously, I consider all of these inconveniences to be minor in light of the benefits a Rahal HT can provide, and even if I had to go through it all again, I still wouldn't have had it any other way. Anyhow,After setting up my laptop, settling into my hotel room, and having a shower, I went to sleep, ready to begin the next phase of my follicular journey... I spent the next few days familiarizing myself with the Bank Street area. Stocked up on food, snacks, and drinks to put in the mini-fridge in my room, so that I'd have a stockpile of supplies post-surgery. I also walked from Adam's Inn to Dr. Rahal's office a few times, in order to time myself and judge the distance. It took about 35-40 minutes. Not bad, and I actually prefer to walk both for the exercise benefits, and so as not to overspend on taxis unless it's absolutely necessary! Cabs seem to be quite expensive in Canada. My pre-op consultation day arrived and I met Adrian and Dr. Rahal for the first time. Both were great! Adrian was extremely helpful and accommodating. It's very settling to be in his presence, as his un-salesman-like, truthful approach when answering the plethora of questions thrown at him (both about your own surgery and his) really puts you at ease. This is a guy who understands what it's like to be in the shoes of a balding male, and I found his attitude to be most refreshing. Adrian also gave me a tour of the front and back of his head. When I mentioned that this was the first time I'd ever seen a HT in person, Dr. Rahal joked that he hoped I wouldn't cancel the surgery now and run out the door! In all honesty, I have to say that Adrian's hair looked fantastic. He also had a totally undetectable donor scar, and I was excited to be able to see some of Dr. Rahal's handiwork in the flesh. Dr. Rahal and I went over my plans, goals, and expectations. I mentioned to him that I wanted a lowered hairline and he said we'd need to measure it the next day to see if it would look symmetrical with my face or not. After filling in the consent forms, I caught a cab back to the inn, took a Temazepam pill, and went to bed early to I could get up for my 6:30am surgery the next day. I had no qualms sleeping the night prior to surgery at all. No anxiety, no fears. no doubts. Nothing. I woke up nice and relaxed! I have to say that I was never the slightest bit nervous in the lead-up to the surgery, and the same was true on the day of my surgery. I awoke and headed down to Rahal's clinic in the service of good old "Mo", the Rahal token cabbie. He reassured me that Dr. Rahal was the best, and that he has driven tonnes of satisfied patients back and forth over the many years. This was very good to hear, as it only solidified in my mind that I had made the correct choice of Doctor. I had no major doubts going into the surgery, although I did have a bunch of questions and comments for Dr. Rahal! Upon arrival, I had a good chat with Adrian for about 15 minutes, while Dr. Rahal prepared. When he was ready, I went into his office and we started designing my hairline. Dr. Rahal measured my facial dimensions and then strictly cautioned me that he wouldn't want to lower my hairline any further than approximately half a cm down my forehead, due to the chance of future increased loss in the crown later on. Now, I must state here that a lowered hairline is something I REALLY wanted going into this HT, so I tried to push Dr. Rahal for it, but he said that it really wouldn't be a good idea since his main concern was framing my face naturally, and that the new fringe (bangs) he was going to place in the receded areas would do a LOT to give the appearance of a lower hairline. At this point, I decided to shut up and listen to Dr. Rahal's advice, as I realized he really was doing what was in my best interests based on thousands of prior surgeries, which was very admirable of him! He actually did end up bringing down the right side of my hairline slightly more than the left, in order to match the bone structure in my forehead. He made the hairline nice and staggered for a natural appearance and also added a triangular widow's peak in the center -- the type I used to have before it receded away years ago. I took a glance at the new design in the hand mirror (I was going to do the Batman Jack Nicholson/Joker gag, putting out my hand and shouting "Mirror... MIRROR!" and then laugh maniacally upon glancing at the hairline... but I thought better of it. Anyhow, I looked at my newly drawn hairline from the sides (using 2 mirrors) as well as from the front. I had Dr. Rahal slightly tweak the rounded corners at the temple points, and I really liked what I saw. We were ready to go! After throwing on the blue surgical gown, downing some pills, and being given an injection of Midazolam, the techs shaved my hair off completely, at my own request. This is the first time I have ever sported a buzzed head, but I didn't want the "bozo" look to plague me for the next 2 weeks, and I also figured that cleaning the donor area would be way easier with very short hair, in turn, making the sutures easier to remove. Next, Dr Rahal administered the anesthetic shots in the back of my head. Now, for me, these were nowhere near as bad as I'd anticipated. I was expecting far worse pain than the little stings that accompanied the needles. I'd say they just felt like someone slowly plucking out a hair, or a very aggressive mosquito bite. Many people say the anesthetic needles are the most painful part of the surgery, but for me, the most "painful" part was actually the slight neck-ache I got from lying in one position for a very long time. The needles are certainly no big deal and nothing to fret over. After the area was sufficiently numbed, Dr. Rahal started removing the donor strip. He seemed to remove it fairly quickly, but that may have just been the effect of the drugs screwing with my perception of time. Originally, Dr. Rahal had set me up for 3,500 grafts, but during my pre-op consult, he said we could try for up to 3,800 to 3,900 for an even denser appearance. I agreed with that, and he took a longer donor strip as a result. I believe he said it was 41cm (though, I could be mistaken on that). In the end, we only ended up getting 3,481 grafts -- only 19 off the original mark, so I'm still happy. Next came the anesthetic needles to the forehead. Same deal as getting them in the back of the head -- no biggie. Dr. Rahal then proceeded to make the recipient site incisions. He worked a long time at this and was concentrating intensely on keeping count and ensuring that all the angles correctly flowed with and matched those of my existing hairs. Dr. Rahal informed me that he implanted with a density of 60cm squared in the hairline region, and 50cm squared going further back towards the mid-scalp. All the while, a room-full of dedicated techs were cutting my grafts. One of the techs allowed me the honor of looking at a section of my strip, and peering through the microscope as she dissected grafts. It was all very interesting to see! Once Dr. Rahal finished making the recipient sites, implantation of the hairs began. I opted to try and take as few breaks as possible so that we could finish up faster. As the techs began implanting into the recipient area, I watched a movie. After that, I took a lunch break, then watched another movie. Dr. Rahal told me that, for some reason, in my case, there was a lot of oozing and bleeding where the techs were implanting hairs. This was despite the fact that I followed the pre-op instructions to a T, that I don't drink at all, that I haven't been using minoxidil, and that my bloodwork levels were all normal. According to my bloodwork results, Dr. Rahal said that I shouldn't have experienced any abnormal bleeding. However, since I did, the surgery ended up taking much longer than a typical 3,500 graft surgery would normally take. I think it ended up being around 10 hours or so! Consequently, I required more anesthetic needles throughout the day, and experienced more swelling than I would have hoped for. Unfortunately, in the last 30 minutes I started developing a migraine which was harder to deal with than any part of the surgery itself. Throughout these last 30 minutes, the technicians were absolutely great. Very diligent, understanding, and reassuring. I have great admiration for the work they do, and their tenacity in seeing their job through to completion -- especially knowing that they are doing this on a new patient every day! The techs were very helpful in regards to my migraine, they quickly informed Dr. Rahal who permitted them give me some Advil (which didn't actually help), and they would keep telling me how many pads/gratfs were remaining so I had an idea of how long it would be till they were finished. Finally, after roughly 10 hours of lying on my back, we finished at 6:30PM -- a 12 hour day! I was able to rise for the first time as a re-haired man! In spite of the headache, I felt great about everything. I was given a few final instructions along with some meds, plus a take-home dinner. A cab was ordered to take me back to the inn. My headache was getting quite severe and I started feeling a little nauseated. I haven't thrown-up since 1993, though. I have a bit of a record going, and I didn't plan on tossing in the towel now! When I got inside my hotel room, I took one of the anti-nausea pills that Dr. Rahal gave me and that cleared me up right away. I took both a Tylenol 3 and the stronger Percocet as well, but neither seemed to have much affect against the headache. In retrospect, I guess it was due to the amount of anesthetic fluid and swelling around my forehead. I simply went to bed at 7pm, resting at a 45 degree angle, as instructed. I fell right to sleep. I woke up about 4-5 hours later, and took a Temazepam sleeping pill to ensure that I'd sleep the rest of the night through. I then slept for another 4 or so hours. Woke up and the headache was gone, no pain in the recipient area at all, and only minor discomfort in the donor area. I'm amazed at how good I felt only one day after surgery! A big thanks goes to all the staff, including Dr. Rahal, Adrian, Allanah, and the techs Faith, Mike (sorry, I didn't catch the names of the others, but thanks to all of you). I am definitely excited about things to come! -
Dr. Demirsoy Reviews
maltesefalcon posted a topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Hi there, I've been reviewing a wide variety of surgeons and came down to a few based in Istanbul and nearby. I noticed that Dr. Demirsoy is much cheaper than the others, such as Koray Erdogan and, given my budgetary constraints, I think I might opt for this surgeon. I've seen some reviews on YouTube - before and after etc. - and they seem like a good clinic to go to. I guess I was just a bit surprised by the price (1.25 euros versus 2.5 euros for Koray and 2 euros for other Istanbul-based surgeons). I hope that price isn't a reflection of quality. I also saw that many people lately have been unhappy with ASMED, even though they charge among the highest in Istanbul. Many here appear to have come to the conclusion that standards may have slipped at ASMED compared to 5-10 years ago. I don't know how true or untrue this may be. I've been going through many of the recent posts here. I've noticed not so many reviews lately for Dr. Demirsoy though, so I just thought I'd dip in here and try to harvest any of the latest thoughts on his clinic. Any help is much appreciated as I hope to make the right decision. Choosing the right surgeon is no small thing and having my hair somewhat restored is something that I've been looking forward to for many, many years now. I'll be sharing my experience here on the forum too when surgery day eventually arrives. -
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don’t think that Dr. Hasson said anything bad, in fact most of what he said is true. Spex does promote the surgeons that pay him, that’s transparent. Now his criteria for working with a surgeon I’m sure is transparent as well, at least I hope. Secondly, what Dr. Hasson has said about his FUE is also true. Some of the best FUE results I’ve seen lately are coming out of H&W and they have solidified themselves as an Elite FUE+FUT clinic. The only correction is that we did not ban Jotronic, he left on his own accord. We simply fulfilled his request.
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I'd like to add to the wealth of knowledge about Dr. Diep since it seems he has many reviews here that are mostly positive. The jury is still out on this one, but I have high hopes so far. I am 33 years old and paid ~16k total for this FUE procedure and it was booked about 9 months in advance. I *almost* backed out a few days before after reading some scary reviews on realself and after hearing Dr. Diep's reputation for using a large punch size, but I went ahead anyway since he had a solid reputation on this forum. I've always had a high hairline since I can remember (I recall a girl calling me out for a receding hairline when I was 16), but I don't think I actually had noticeable miniaturization occurring until about 27. My father is nearly completely bald, and my brother's hair (who is about 7 years old) has progressive hairloss that is a bit worse than mine. I would say that for most men my age that are suffering from pattern baldness, mine is relatively milder (likely due to my early attempts at treatment). Some might say I am crazy for getting FUE at this stage of hairloss, but it is bothering me enough and it is difficult to style the hair the way I want (I have a huge forehead so I generally wear it down and to the side). My hair is currently receding in the temple areas a few inches and I believe it is starting to thin in the crown area as well. Here is where my hair currently is: You can kind of see on the right side of the picture of my temple area where I think the hairline used to be - one sole surviving hair seems to be nice and thick still. As far as treatments go, I probably have propecia and keto use for the last 4 years or so to thank for the relatively minor hairloss I have (compared to my brother at least). I hadsides when I started propecia, so I experimented with dosage and and also used grape seed extract as a way to counteract the effects (I forgot the mechanism involved but I read about it a long time ago and it seemed to work). I landed on taking approximately .5 mg every 3 days. Any more often and I start to get foggy brain. I sometimes try to increase it to EoD but I just can't do it because the brain fog messes with my job performance. Anyway, on to the stuff you guys probably care about. I initially paid for 1750, but Dr. Diep convinced me it would be a good idea to at least give him an allowance of an extra 100 based on the line he drew to restore my hairline. I also went with the A-cell - cost wasn't that huge of an issue for me and there didn't seem to be any drawbacks other than extra cost: This was exactly what I was looking for - even though I was tempted to lower my hairline a bit since my forehead is so large, I decided ahead of time that I should keep it conservative and simply restore what I had previously. I didn't want to deplete all my donor hair in case I needed more in the future. I also wanted to avoid possibly having an artificial looking hairline by at least having native hair closer to blend in with the implanted hair. I've seen Diep do magic with hairline lowering, but I've also seen some less than stellar results so I didn't want to take any chances. The half a CM or so that it appears to be lowering is simply because you can't really see the few straggler hairs that had not yet receded. As far as how the procedure went, it was fairly typical as others on this forum have described. The Dr. was already working with a patient when I arrived at 7:30, and he told me that he would be done with that patient in the early AM and would be with me for the rest of the day (that turned out to be not really true - once he finished making the recipient incisions, he only came and checked on the technicians performing the implants every now and then). I was given a concoction of pills and then waited about an hour and a half before the doctor came to begin the extractions (around 9:30-10). I did not fall asleep like most others describe but I was fairly relaxed. I experienced some pain from the anesthetic injections, and also had some pain during some of the FUE extractions in a particular area, and I recall him giving additional anesthetic injections for that. I don't know what size punch he used, but he indicated during pre-op that he used between .9 and 1mm - he explained his reasons for the larger punch and while I am aware I could have insisted on a smaller punch, his results speak for themselves and I think its best to let the doctor do things his way. Many of the criticisms I've read thus far regarding the punch size have been focused on how the donor area looked just after the procedure, but I haven't seen any real criticisms of his donor areas in the long term - and I also had not read of donor reserves being unusable as a result. The FUE extractions came from the back and my right side, as seems to be common with Dr. Diep (and debated about in other threads). I think the jury is still out as to whether this should really be done, but I can say that the left side of my donor area is well preserved for any future need, though I am not sure I like how far near the right ear he went with the extractions. That said, I will generally not be buzzing my hair very short anyway (5 guard minimum) so I don't think this will be an issue for me - you can see from the photos how I generally wear my hear. He made sure to minimize any shaving of hair at my hairline since I plan to return to work after 3 weeks and I am hoping (though I am skeptical) to disguise the work with a mixture of clever styling, makeup, topik, etc. One criticism I had about this procedure is once the extractions/incisions were done and lunch was provided, I asked for another round of sedatives (xanex/valium) since what I had so far wasn't really doing the trick and I had much more time to remain in the chair. I wasn't provided that - I am not sure why. The second half of the procedure was fairly uncomfortable - I was generally conscious and could feel each insertion of graft (though no pain from it initially). The inability to move at all due to the inserting of grafts, combined with the very chatty techs who were talking/laughing very loudly inches from my ear talking about all sorts of things (strip clubs, dating, etc), and the lack of any sedative effect, made for a very uncomfortable 6 hour process. I believe they started inserting the grafts around 2pm, and when 5 rolled around or so and I was basically wide awake, I asked how much longer it would be, and I was told 2 hours. Well, 2 hours rolled by and I asked again how much longer, and I was told 30 minutes. The anesthetic had mostly worn off and I was starting to feel pain/pressure and decided to just power through it (they asked if I wanted the Dr. to come apply more anesthetic but I declined since they were almost done, I thought). But it took another hour and a half and everyone from the office was pretty much gone except the technicians and the doctor. The post-op instruction lady came in and decided to give me my post op instructions and sign it while I was still laying on the chair and getting grafts placed, which I thought was kind of odd (do you think I am going to remember this well while I am getting stuck with grafts?) I understand that things happen and just sometimes take longer, but I couldn't help but feel like there was a sense of being rushed at the end (techs complaining about being hungry and what not). By the time things were wrapping up, I was asking for the painkillers prescribed to try and get ahead of the pain that I could feel coming on. The painkillers they gave me did not seem to have any effect on me (Tramadol) so my girlfriend and I drove straight to the pharmacy, and wouldn't you know everything was closed by 10pm, and the one 24 hour pharmacy was out of percocet. Most people describe the post-op pain as being relatively minor but I was experiencing the worst head pressure/pain I had ever felt. I ended up quickly glancing through the post-op instructions and seeing something about how ibuprofen can be taken 4 days post-op and in my pain and dizzyness from the valium, believed that meant I could take ibuprofen and took 3 (turns out I wasn't supposed to do that because of the blood thinning effect). While his written instructions, if you actually parse out the language, say that you can take ibuprofen after the 4th day, it is very easy to misread the instructions if you are in a daze from the sedatives and in a lot of pain. I was mildly annoyed because my girlfriend had been in the waiting room since 4 pm and could have picked up the prescriptions for me as I had asked (but they declined to let her because they said they already had painkillers for me). A word about the post-op instruction packets - I also don't understand why there are two different sets of post-op instruction packets which address the same issues and in some cases are contradictory (one set of instructions are telling you how to clean the recipient area each day after surgery but the second set clearly says you should *not* touch the recipient area until day 4). Dr. Diep was very pleasant during the pre-op but I didn't talk with him much after the procedure. I believe he came in to check on the technicians about once every 30-45 minutes during the insertion of the grafts and to take final photos. I went to my first post-op wash and was hoping to get a rundown of how he felt about the procedure, but he was too busy when I was there, so I am hoping to catch him in one of the other cleanings if possible. Anyway, here is the stuff you guys probably care about: Other than taking ibuprofen after the surgery, everything seems to be normal. Once I woke up, i was no longer in pain and haven't really felt anything yet. The doctor told me the ibuprofen won't have any effect on the graft survival, it can just cause excessive bleeding from the donor area (doesn't seem to be a huge issue at the moment). I also apparently misinterpreted the pre-op instructions regarding smoking - the warning made specific reference to the dangers of nicotine - so I assumed that smoking marijuana was still OK (I used marijuana semi-regularly 1-2 times/week), and had smoked it 4 days prior to the surgery. Dr. Diep didn't like that but said it should be fine, but advised me to refrain from any marijuana use for an "entire year" ?!?!. From what I've been reading, it seems that the general MO is to refrain from smoking anything for a month or so, but after that I can resume. Cannabis has been show to inhibit growth of hair generally from what secondary sources I've read, but it doesn't appear from anything I could find that would cause the failing of hair grafts once the grafts are fully healed. If anyone has better information they could chime in? Anyway, thanks for listening. Any tips to disguise the hair implant would be greatly appreciated - I can't wear a hat as I work in a courtroom so its very important to look professional. I might also just need to fess up and tell everyone why I took a 3 week vacay - but we''ll see. Thanks for listening. -
Scarring from FUE ... how bad?
Jhonny replied to Jhonny's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Thank you guys for your replies! Good point Dr. Bloxham, this is exactly why I asked this question...I always got the feeling like FUE + scarless so then after seeing some pics i wondered if that was really true! HT can be succesful but also unsuccesful we know that. What if I lose most of the transplanted hair and the ones in the donor area as well? It would be ugly not to buzz the few remaining hair down but it would be bad also to see thousand tiny scars. I wonder if this unlucky situation has ever happened to someone here on the forum. I believe it's important to be aware of the potential consequences of anything we do in life wether them being positive or negaive. -
First of all thanks to Allah for him to guide me to true real doctor Dr.Kazim who done wonderful job on my head. I was fully bald but Doctor at Vera rescue me. It almost like magic now I have full head of hair. All nurse in clinic is also the best and does wonderful job very co operative. I also thank Farah and specialist Ola who always guide me through difficult period during operation. So it is best clinic guys, i am fully happy with my result it is wonderful. Thanks very much -
Hi Guys! So I am a patient of Dr. Koniors and I recently moved to Medellin (I'm a dual citizen). Needless to say QUALITY is something that I don't skimp on (hence my choice in Dr. Konior). The only surgeon "close" by that has a vast amount of credibility is Dr. Nader in Mexico, however that isn't quite even in the area (or continent). There are no really solid threads on trusted FUE surgeons in Colombia so I wanted to start a conversation about who has had first hand experience with RESEARCH and RECEIVING AN ACTUAL TRANSPLANT in Colombia. After doing some research these are the names I've come up with: Bogota: Rene Rodriguez Medical - https://2rmd.com This guy has a ton of content with artists to the average joe, youtube videos, and a flawless rating in just about every social media platform. Medellin: Dr. Hector Garcia - http://implantecapilar.com.co/secciones-85-s/dr-hctor-garca.htm This surgeon appears to be very professional without a whole lot of gaudy success stories or youtube videos (there are some that offer success stories). I wish there was more evidence of success stories, as this type of surgeon who specializes in FUE and isn't real big on advertising always appeals to me. Cali: Dr. Reina - https://www.transplantesdecabellocolombia.com/calvicie-implante-capilar/ I've come across this woman in my research and she has a lot of good content with her at conferences in the United States, with some images of results on her page. I noticed she does FUT (strip) so not sure if thats a red flag or not, but she appears to be a true hair restoration specialist. Dr. Carlos Triana - https://www.crecehaircenter.com/trasplante-capilar.html This guy belongs to the American Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (is that credential enough?) that I can't say for sure. He has his own brand of hair care products "Crece" and appears to be dedicated to the craft. PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION ON TOPIC AND LETS SEE IF WE CAN CONFIRM OUR GO TO HAIR TRANSPLANT SURGEON IN COLOMBIA. -
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Flying to India to see Dr Bhatti
California replied to raj singh's topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Hi Raj, Thank you for sharing your HT journey so far and thank you for choosing Dr. Bhatti/Darling Buds Clinic for your procedure. I am sure that you must have put in a lot of thought and research into making the selection for your HT Surgeon. After all, that is most the important decision when it comes to hair transplants. I have tried my best to address the issues and concerns that you have raised in your write up. My intention is not to prove you wrong but just provide some clarifications from the Clinic's side. No offense meant to you or anyone else. We wish you all the best with your HT results. Full disclosure: Dr. Bhatti does wish to expand his business into other surgical streams like Orthopedics, Maxillofacial, Neurosurgery, etc, while focusing on HT only, himself. This is a 2 year project. The ground floor and the top floor of the hospital are dedicated to hair transplants only. The hospital has a potential total area of 175,000 sq ft of which 20,000 sq ft is devoted to Darling Buds Clinic where Dr. Bhatti is the only doctor associated to our Clinic. Dr. Bhatti's daughter, who is an MD, has joined his practice and manages the Dermatology Dept of the hospital. The hospital also has a full diagnostic lab which is run by Dr. Bhatti's wife Dr Amulya Bhatti. It also houses a state of the art PRP lab. My responses: RAJ: So i am done with my FUI and on my second day of recovery in India.I would like to share my experience. My procedure was scheduled for 24 April and i was told to come a day before for some blood work and consultation.I was given few choices of Hotels and i found one at my own which was really close by.I got to the Hospital on 23rd afternoon and i have to say that the place is built in a remote location which is pretty run down place.It makes you nervous that if you are in the right place.There are some confusing signs and mixed names of the hospital (Darling buds and five rivers).Well i was already feeling like shit as i got caught by a stomach bug and was having cramps and loose motions). California: Raj, since you/your family is/are originally from India, I would assume that your expectations would be realistic as far as what many cities in India look like. Also, you would know that the street sign/name systems in India are not comparable to the Western cities. Just to make things more convenient for all of our Patients, we do offer a complimentary pick up from the Chandigarh airport and also pickup/drop off from the Patient's hotel to the Clinic. Not sure what that did not happen in your case. I can understand that since you caught a stomach bug right after reaching there, things might have looked bad from your perspective. Traveling while sick is never fun. I am sorry that you had to go through the HT procedure while you were not feeling well. RAJ: Once you enter the building out of four floors or more only two are finished and rest under construction and a total mess.I waited for half an hr or so to see the doctor and i was told i dont have good donor area and my crown will not be covered which i understand.The doctor seems very tired even i was feeling sick.We did not have conversation or eye contact and he literally finished in five minutes which was bit disappointing.Most of my questions were answered by these techs who almost look underage but they are very courteous and professional.At this point i wanted to get the hell out of there and go to the hotel. California: The hospital has a potential total area of 175,000 sq ft of which 20,000 sq ft is devoted to Darling Buds Clinic where Dr. Bhatti is only doctor associated with the HT Clinic. The hospital project is quite big and like any other big construction, it does not look pretty. That said, the HT Clinic does not have any construction going on. Calling it a "total mess" might not be a fair assessment. Regarding the 30 minute wait to see the doctor, that does not sound excessive to me. I am used to waiting for 30-45 minutes (at least) every time I see a doctor in California Bay Area, under my PPO medical insurance. As is validated by hundreds of Dr. Bhatti Patients, he is a very humble person, easy to talk to and very straight forward. He does not sugar coat. Dr. Bhatti makes it a point to have an open and informal discussion with this Patients during the pre-op consultation. This includes drawing a hairline on the Patient's forehead and asking the Patient to think about the hairline placement, at ease. Also, the donor availability and the realistic expectation are discussed. Not sure why you thought that Dr. Bhatti looked tired. Again, I do realize that you were not feeling well yourself. That does make everything look bad. The technicians working in our Clinic are definitely not "under age". They are young females (mostly registered nurses) who have been with the Clinic for many many years. They are knowledgeable, experienced and very good at what they do. RAJ:My procedure was done by the doctor which includes cutting your hair, harvesting and making cuts. and plantation.First day harvested from the scalp donor area.Prcedure started at 7.30 and i was told to be there 6.45 but no one was there till 7.15am. California: I do apologize that you had to wait. Have brought this to the Clinic's attention. Again, the norm is that the Clinic driver picks up the Patient from his/her hotel and brings them over to the Clinic. I am sorry if that service was not offered to you. Could be a rare case of mis-communication from our side and if that is the case, we will make sure that it does not happen again. RAJ: Second day harvesting done from beard and chest .There was a Sikh Doctor who had some sense of humour and he held my hand and i had my first conversation (Sorry i am not used to this kind of customer experience dealing with robots like people) and was told to come next day as well to open the bandage and other paperwork.Most of the staff is very friendly and they are young girls who are fresh out of medical nursing college living around chandigarh.They were soft spoken and hard working California: With all due respect, the teams working at the hospital are very friendly, courteous and professional. The staff at our Clinic is like one happy family. You have said so yourself in your writeup. The "robot like" people comments does contradict that. Last time we checked, we did not have any robots working in our Clinic:) RAJ: So my transplant looks pretty good and i have minimal pain.Oh by the way on the third day when i went to open the bandage and everything was explained by on of the girls we were told that Dr Bhatti will come and talk to you.He was sitting next to us in his Office and i just wanted to ask him some qyuestions about PRP and therapy etc.We were sitting for more than 45 mts and doctor never came to say even bye or thanks. California: I am happy that your HT looks good. That is the main reason for traveling thousands of miles.....to get a world class HT at fraction of the cost (as compared to the Western countries). I am sorry that you felt less cared for at our Clinic. Every Patient in our Clinic is a priority and we try our best to make them feel special and well cared for. I am not sure why the Doctor did not come to talk to you. Did you let the staff know that you had specific questions for Dr. Bhatti? Dr. Bhatti does usually make it a point to wish a good bye to the Clients (unless he is tied up in the OT and not able to come out) RAJ: At this point i got the picture of the whole system. overall. 1.Place is run by one man show who obviously cant be every where and with no coordinator the doctor seems overwhelmed.There is only one email and you can not reach doctor. California: A "one man show" is true but only as far as the procedure itself is concerned. With the world wide fame that Dr. Bhatti has earned, he could have easily opened franchise clinics all over India, which would have been so lucrative. The reason that he has not done so is becuase he wants to perform each and every procedure himself. Obviously, for the other offices, he would have had to hire other HT doctors to perform the procedures. He chose not to do so. I sincerely believe that that is very good thing for all Dr. Bhatti Patients. Dr. Bhatti responds to each and every email himself. He had offers from his staff to answer the basic questions, but he wants his Patients to have a direct access to him. Always. RAJ: 2.The place is not what the pictures show at all including inside and outside.Its a construction zone.Its on a outer circle of Chandigarh with nothing around.There is construction inside which i am not sure even they are working on it. California: Again, there is work going on on the project but that does not make the entire hospital a construction zone. Construction can look like an eye sore and can cause some inconvenience but we try our best to make sure that our Patients are affected by this as little as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience caused to you or any other Patient. RAJ: 3.Dr Bhatti is very good in his work with no peoples skill. California: Thanks for acknowledging that Dr. Bhattis is good at what he does. That is what matters to most Patients. Regarding the "peoples skill" part, that is a personal assessment/interpretation. Being a Dr. Bhatti Patient myself, I was pleasantly surprised that he did not talk down to me like most "big shot" doctors in India tend to do. He was kind, courteous, sincere and honest and that helped my nerves to calm down. RAJ: 4.If You advertise a place world class you gotta be on top of everything.As in your thoughts you are much better doctor and charge more than others,Your patient deserve better service from you and a clean place.You cant have construction zone in half of your premises and still using your old name in your bags.No courtesy of thanking your patient who flew to you from a different country is not acceptable. California: Again, I am sorry that you felt that way. Dr. Bhatti charges more than "others" because he is a way better doctor than the "others" and for most Patients, the Doctors skills, experience and the past patient results are what matters the most. The Clinic is always clean and Dr. Bhatti has a very strict protocol in place when it comes to cleanliness, hygiene, sterlization etc. When I got my procedure done at the Darling Buds Clinic many years ago, I forgot my phone in the OT (they let me carry my phone in there because I wanted to take some pictures). After I changed out of the OT clothes, I realized that I had forgotten my phone in the room and started walking back into the OT. I was stopped by a nurse who told me that I did not have the OT attire on me. I asked her to get my phone for me and she said that she was not dressed for the OT. I got pretty irritated but she would not budge. She said that there was no exception to the protocol that the Clinic had in place. She asked me to wait and called another nurse who was dressed in the OT clothes. Then I got my phone back! I have been in the US for almost 20 years now and have not experienced this level of "strictness" and "adherence to protocol" in any US Clinic or hospital. Regarding thanking a Patient before he/she leaves, I never got a thank you from any doctor in my life. On the contrary, I always make it a point to thank my doctor. They do say "bye" to me. Dr. Bhatti does make it a point to say good bye to the Patient's and wish them a safe trip back home whenever he is able to and available to do so. The fact that he was not able to wish you a good bye was definitely not intentional. My apologies that he was not available at that time to do that. Please feel free to reach out to me with any questions or concerns. We are with you through out your HT journey. Always, just a phone call or an email away. Best regards, California -
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One of the more debated topics on the forum is whether or not "young" patients should undergo hair transplant surgery. The controversy revolves around the fact that these patients are very early in the hair loss process and have an unpredictable future ahead. Using too many grafts now or starting with an "aggressive" plan may set a patient up for a lifetime of multiple surgeries or deplete donor resources before acceptable coverage can be achieved. There is also controversy surrounding the donor area in young patients: Will it thin aggressively and end up only providing a small "strip" of safe donor in the future? Are grafts taken from the "expanded" donor area in a young patient actually safe or will these thin in the future? For these, and other, reasons, many hair transplant doctors do not like to perform hair transplants on "young" patients. While cutoffs vary, many do not like to take patients under the age of 25 and others want to wait until their hair loss pattern has really revealed itself -- which can often take decades. My philosophy on young patients is a little different. I frequently perform hair transplantation on appropriate "young" patients as long as a few absolute "musts" are understood and accepted by the patient. If the patient is mature thinking and accepts the "long term" reality of hair transplantation at a young age and the potential for future surgeries up the road, I feel like they do quite well. In order to successfully undergo hair transplantation at a young age, I feel a patient must acknowledge and really feel comfortable accepting the following: 1) We must start conservative with the hairline. Many young patients remember a very low, flat, immature hairline from only a few years prior. And sometimes it is hard to get them to understand that this is not advisable. If a young patient insists on rebuilding an immature hairline, I do not think they should have a hair transplant. However, if the patient understands that hair transplants are permanent and the hairline must "age well;" if they understand that starting conservative now will allow us to get coverage from front to back as they continue to thin and we can go lower later once things cool off and the majority of the scalp has been treated with hair transplants; and if they understand that the lower we go now, the more grafts we use in the front that we now cannot use in other areas, then I think they are good candidates. 2) We must start with FUT Not to stoke the flames here at all, but I insist on starting all young patients as FUT. Not only is this the only way to truly maximize the amount of donor grafts available over a lifetime, but it is also the only way to really take continuously from the small true safe donor area (SDA) zone. We never know how these patients may thin up the road, and grafts taken from even slightly outside the safest part of the donor area may be susceptible to hair loss and fall out in the future. We need to maximize donor potential and only work where we absolutely know it is safe until these patients are older. Then we can usually augment with FUE. 3) The patient must accept that he will very likely want/require more procedures up the road Androgenic alopecia is a progressive process and while hair transplants do thicken and restore thinned areas, the procedure does not treat the progressive hair loss. Patients who are thin enough to seek hair transplantation at a young age will likely continue to thin in the future. With a hair transplant plan "started" in one area, the patient will likely want more. We never design anything that would absolutely require a patient to have more surgery up the road, but chances are that you will want to address additional thinning regions at a later date. The patient needs to accept that this is likely not a "one and done" deal. 4) We really should (maybe not "must") start in the front and work back The frontal third (hairline, frontal scalp, and slight transition into the mid-scalp) is the most visible region of the scalp. It also is responsible for re-framing the face and really creating the appearance of thick, full hair from the perspective of how most of the world sees you (IE "front on" or from the sides). Furthermore, if this region is done properly the rest of the scalp can thin and still look natural. For these reasons, we really should address this area first in young guys. Many times younger patients are focused on the "bald spot" in the back, but starting in the front and working back if and when necessary creates the greatest cosmetic impact and prevents creating anything that may look unnatural up the road. To better demonstrate this philosophy, I want to share a case: The patient in this video is a young guy in his early 20's; he's in that transition between college and the rest of his life. He has aggressive thinning for his age and is likely to become a NW VI up the road. I discussed all of the above with him and he completely agreed and wanted to move forward. We did a 3,000 graft FUT and everything went very well. I saw him back at 6 and 12 months. The first video features an explanation of how I approach young patients (similar to what I wrote above) and a detailed 6 month result video. The second video is an update at 12 months. 6 month results: 12 month results: As a final note: I do think all young patients considering hair transplant should do their research carefully. If you do it as out outlined above, I think you will be happy for many years to come; however, there are some potential "pitfalls" for younger patients. So do your research, ask your questions, and remember to start conservative and keep the long-term in mind. Hope everyone enjoyed the presentation. Look forward to the discussion. Dr. Blake Bloxham Feller & Bloxham Medical, PC -
I am not bashing your post, you are entitled to your opinion as long as it is based on facts, if you have any e-mail exchanges with the clinic which shows that prices are double to that of Dr. Bhatti then please present it here. I myself will take Eugenix to task if that is the case, it is simply not true in my own experience. I am simply trying to set records straight if there are any incorrect suggestions in above posts (not just yours). Again, if you have documentation to prove that Eugenix is twice as expensive then please share, I will ask Dr. Sethi to explain the same. Now some other posts have called genuine patients as agents of Eugenix, even in my case I am a physician working here in US and earn amongst the top 1% of this country, i do not need to live on anyone's commissions and expense. I simply am a happy patient who is overjoyed by results given to me by such expert and dedicated HT specialists like Dr. Pradeep and Dr. Arika. I am happy to share my experience anytime someone asks for it, only intention being that I want those patient's to have same or similar results like mine, if few lives are made happy and content by this..... then my real duty as a physician in pointing a patient in right direction is accomplished. That is just the essence of being a healer for me. Again I agree with @Melvin-Moderator, no need for more toxicity here. I do respect all recommended clinics here, if those doctors who rejected me for HT may have done so due to their own experience or wisdom. (I am not a HT expert), I respect that and I moved on, without bashing them ever (but documenting that a high HT like me has limited number of surgeons who are confident enough to take up my case and achieve such results...... which is fine). Good luck to everyone in their search, lets keep the discussion civil without unjust insinuations.
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I'm changing from Finasteride and upping the juice to Dutasteride
arussell replied to spex's topic in Hair Loss Drugs
I will point out that in reading your post you are taking 1 mg fin. Most if not all 1mg fin is made in China or India and is for the most part not reliable. You might want to check your manufacturer. When finasteride went generic, Dr. Cooley like most docs prescribing allowed his patients to use this. In a short time frame we like so many clinics worldwide had so many patients who were shedding and losing ground. The common denominator was the generic Img fin. So, we don't write it and in many instances, if a patient switches to a more reliable brand (we recommend TEVA 5mg) they stabilize. The caveat is that TEVA is a little more expensive and harder to find but don't let a pharmacy tell you they can't get it, not true, they just don't make as much money and don't have a contract with them but any pharmacy can order any medication that is legal. It is all in the hands of their buyer and even varies store to store within the same chain. BUT folks there is a reason co-pays is cheap... so are the ingredients....... and you are not saving if they are not working. In generics they companies use whatever filler they can that costs the least, not works the best and they don't have to tell you what that filler is...... and that is your vehicle of absorption. Just remember all the trials are done on the brand name NOT the generic. -
Best Hair Transplant Surgeons in Turkey
youngheart replied to Melvin-Moderator's topic in Open Hair Loss Topics
This is not true. I would not recommend him. See the email from them below. The doctor does not do everything for that price. Its an extortion in my opinion regardless of results. You can pay the same amout in UK Based on the photos that we have received, Dr. Koray Erdogan has evaluated the basic condition of your hair loss and your candidacy for an FUE hair transplant. He has determined that your surgery should consist of 5000 grafts. The surgery will be performed over a period of 2 day(s) with a coverage area of the frontal, mid-scalp and vertex areas. In order to complete your surgical procedure, you will be required to remain in Istanbul for a minimum of 4 day(s) and 3 nights. Dr. Koray recommends the usage of Finasteride (Proscar or Propecia) in order to maintain and optimize your original hair. Finasteride has the effect of the telogen hairs, which are diluted and are prone to hair loss, to strengthen them as also the own hair again. If you use Minoxidil or Rogaine you should stop it 1 month before the planned operation. Enclosed you will find a Photo in which the transplantation area is marked. Kindly note, that this shows only the area which is planned to be transplanted, but is not the planned hairline design. The hairline will be designed together with you and Dr Koray during the live consultation, which will take place one day before the surgery. Do not hesitate to contact us for any further information or clarification. You will find complete information at the end of this document. Best Regards ASMED – Dr. Koray Erdogan TYPES OF SURGERIES OFFERED DES FUE with shaven hair The technique used in our surgeries is called the DES Method (Dilek-Erdogan Sequential Extraction), created by Dr. Koray Erdogan and the head of the medical team, Dilek Çakir. This technique was highlighted at some of the most important recent international hair restoration congresses and was deemed to be one of the most refined and efficient FUE techniques used today by some of the world's most renowned FUE surgeons. This same technique facilitates a quantity of extractions that until now was unthinkable with FUE using manual instrumentation: up to 5500 high-quality grafts in 2 consecutive days. The extractions take place in a sitting position, the most efficient position for patient comfort and for effective extraction based on our experience. The graft extraction is strictly performed by "manual punch" (we do not use the "micro-motor" or the "motorized punch"). Today, the manual punch is believed to be the most efficient in preserving the donor area of the patient and maximizing the number of extractable grafts. At the same time, it guarantees the highest quality extracted grafts with minimal scarring. For this "standard" type of surgery, the hair is shaven in both the donor and recipient areas. The cost of this procedure is 2.5 Euros per transplanted unit including accommodations for 2-3 nights, the surgical packet and all services related to the surgery.** DES FUE "non-shaven" (partially shaven hair) This type of surgery is executed in a similar manner to that of the DES technique with shaven hair. The difference is that the hair is shaven only in the graft extraction area allowing for a more rapid recovery of normal aesthetic conditions. This results in a quick return to work and a normal social life. This is a great option for those who have particular necessities or who simply desire greater discretion regarding their surgery. The hair is shaven only in the posterior (back) and lateral (side) areas of the scalp. The maximum number of grafts that can be transplanted with this method are from 3000 units. The cost is 3 Euros per transplanted unit and also, in this case, includes accommodations for 2-3, the surgical packet and all services related to the surgery.** DES FUE "long hair" (with long hair) The surgery is performed without shaving the hair at all. The grafts are extracted from the donor area and are implanted in the recipient area maintaining the length of the extracted hair independently of the hair length itself. The remaining aspects of the procedure are handled in a similar way to that of DES FUE with shaven hair. The procedure is more laborious and difficult with long hair. For this reason, the maximum number of units that can be transplanted in one surgery is 2000-2500 grafts spread over 2 days of surgery. The cost is 5 Euros per transplanted unit including the surgical packet and all services related to the surgery.** OUR MEDICAL CENTER Surgeries are performed at the ASMED Surgical Medical Center located in Atasehir, one of the most modern neighborhoods of Istanbul. We work in a hospital setting as required by current regulations in Turkey, and exclusively use the most internationally advanced surgical techniques and instruments available. We invite you to consult the clinic’s website to view the medical structure itself and the operating rooms SURGICAL PLANNING An accurate consultation will take place with Dr. Koray Erdogan. This normally occurs the day before the surgery. However, if requested, it is possible to book an appointment at the clinic any time before then. During the consultation, the doctor will perform a scientific study of the characteristics of your alopecia, carefully evaluating factors such as the diameter and the typology of the hair, the condition of scalp area that will be operated upon and the density of the donor area in the parietal (lateral) and the occipital (posterior) of the scalp. This allows for the establishment of an optimal surgical plan that takes into consideration possible future surgeries that when completed, arrive at both a natural and long-term result. A careful study will also be made of the proportions of the face so that the result will enhance your features according to your needs and desires bearing in mind the best management of the donor area resources. SURGERY All medical testing for the surgery will be performed in the clinic. Tests performed will be for: infectious diseases, blood pressure, glucose levels, and cardiac rhythm. The operation will be planned and implemented by Dr. Koray Erdogan together with his staff, which is composed of a trusted medical team that is highly experienced and qualified. The procedure is minimally invasive and is carried out under local anesthesia. The extraction of the grafts is performed exclusively by using a tool called the "manual punch" that is to date, the most effective way to preserve the donor area of the patient and maximize the number of grafts that can be removed. At the same time, the manual punch ensures the highest quality of extracted grafts with minimal scarring. At the ASMED clinic, the "motorized punch", also called the “micromotor is not used. The extracted grafts are immersed in an advanced Hypothermosol + ATP solution and maintained at +4 degrees Celsius, which keeps them functionally and biologically active until the implantation phase. Once the extraction of the grafts has been completed, Dr. Erdogan proceeds with the creation of sites in which the grafts are implanted. To complete this phase, specially customized sapphire blades are prepared to measure and a technique is known as the "Coronal Slit" or more commonly called the “Lateral Slit” is implemented. The technique consists of creating incisions in a manner perpendicular to the direction of the hair and allows for precise control of the direction of the transplanted hair ensuring the minimum possible trauma to the operated area. Finally, surgical assistants place the extracted grafts into the recipient incisions through the use of the KEEP (an acronym for Koray Erdogan Embedding Placer) tool developed and patented by Dr. Erdogan. The tool is designed to optimize graft implantation time while minimizing possible trauma to the grafts. PRICES AND SERVICES FOR YOUR SURGERY These are the prices for each of the proposed options: 5000 FUE GRAFTS: 12500 Euros all inclusive *** (2.5 Euro per graft) * Flight ticket fee of up to 300 EUR for European, Near- and Middle Eastern countries, and 500 USD for USA, Australia, Canada, Far Eastern countries will be refunded by ASMED after the flight ticket copy with cost details is provided to your coordinator. ** SURGICAL PACK: K.E.E.P., custom-made sapphire blades, ATP and Hypothermosol graft solution, antibiotics, medical ice-pack, "low level” laser therapy, hat, shampoo, and post-operative lotion. The "surgical package" is included in the cost of surgery. *** SERVICE PACK: Our service package includes all the necessary transportation (airport-clinic-hotel) via ASMED minivan, an assistant/personal translator for the entire duration of the surgery and 2 or 3 nights´ “Full-Board” accommodation at the Asmed Suites (Single Room). The "service package" is included in the cost of surgery. N.B. Patients who will not stay at ASMED Suites can stay at Radisson Blu - Istanbul Asia (transfers to/from the clinic is included) with the ASMED special price offer of 80 EUR/night for a single and 95 EUR/night for a double room for 5 nights. OPERATION PLAN First Day: Arrival at Ataturk Airport (European Side) or Sabiha Gokcen Airport (Asia Side), till 11 am (11:00 o’clock) local time. Our driver will pick you up from the airport and he will bring you directly to the clinic. Live consultation with Dr. Koray and Analyses. EKG and Blood Tests. Hair shaving and thereafter designed Dr. Koray your Frontline and the recipient area. Second Day: 2500 Graft extraction/incisions/implantation Third Day: 2500 Graft extraction/incisions/implantation Fourth Day: Control and first hair wash procedure. Departure after 2 pm (14:00 o’clock) local time or if you want later. If you should decide for surgery in our clinic we ask you for information about your general health condition (allergy to medications or general, diabetes, blood pressure, tachycardia, hemophilia, hepatitis B or C. .... etc) and information about the medication you are taking. ASMED WARRANTY ASMED offers a guarantee of 90% regrowth of the transplanted grafts (Note: The growth rate for ASMED procedures is normally higher). The exception is with special cases that include, for example, health problems that may limit growth, unrealistic expectations or poor predisposition for the surgery. These issues will, in any case, become apparent during the pre-operative consultation with Dr. Koray Erdogan. The clinic is committed to assist and monitor the development and evolution of the surgery for at least 12 months after it takes place. The assistants are always available for any information and will contact the patient periodically to evaluate transplant performance and to facilitate communication with the clinic. -
Please recommend doctors to me
Melvin-Moderator replied to Win88's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Feller and bloxham, Dr. Wesley, True&Dorin, Dr. Bernstein also Dr. Rahal -
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Hi Folks, Long time lurker; My very first post here with the intent to share and contribute based on my upcoming surgery in India with Darling buds and most importantly “ My results “ in the next few months. I feel morally obligated to contribute at least something back to this community that offers : A worldwide network of HT experts, reputed Senior members sharing invaluable info, Top rated HT surgeons positioning their point of views and most importantly "real patients sharing real stories". Background Male in mid-thirties from Canada; NW 3 - Less/More. Past 6 years were dark and depressing. Living in a fool’s paradise; using Toppik daily assuming everything’s fine but somewhere at a deeper level; it continuously bothered me. Finally in 2019; I made the big decision to get a HT. This website is the main reason as to why I was able to solidify on my research, move ahead with a concrete decision and was able to find one of the best doctor (just being positive here) as per my checklist/strict criteria. Special thanks to the Creator of this website – Kudos to the brain that kicked off this humanitarian initiative as it continues to educate millions of potential patients like myself. Why Darling Buds India (I guess they changed the name to 5 Rivers Hospital ) This piece takes forever to decide especially for someone like me who spends gazillions of hours on the Internet/YouTube/Forums. I was always skeptical about giving my Head to someone to be operated; so consulted with many Canadian, American, European, Indian and Turkish clinics. Many reputed names like Dr. Rahal ( Known as the hairline king from Canada), Dr Acar ( Cosmedica Turkey), Dr. Erdogan ( Turkey), Aestimed ( Turkey), LA Hair ( USA), Qunomedical ( Belgium & German clinics), Dr. Cinik ( Turkey) and the list goes on……………………………………………. but None fitted my checklist in it's entirety reflecting 8 Key deciding factors that was prepared after extensive research for years 🙄 : 1. Max cost under 10,000 CAD ( 7500 USD ) for 3500-4000 Grafts to be able to achieve maximum density in my case. YES, I decided to find the best treatment within this range. IMHO, paying this much should suffice in getting you a world class, still affordable HT in today’s age with advanced Technologies, Globalization, the power of internet and competitive market. It's costing me around 9000 CAD ( including some expensive flight tickets) with Dr. Bhatti which seems adequate for the reputation he has or rather a steal ( not sure - will tell later) If budget wasn’t a constraint, I would’ve booked Dr. Rahal ( Canada ) who is local to me OR Dr. Baubac ( Alvi Armani USA) more importantly to save myself from the hassle of flying 20 hours one way, then drive to a different city, book a hotel for a week, apply for a visa, Take few weeks of vacation from work etc. Dr Rahal charges 8 CAD per FUE, most other clinics would cost the same in N. America for FUE Treatment. It’s costing me around 2.40 CAD with Dr. Bhatti ( includes all international/ Local flights, Visa, Hotel, Food, Cab etc.). If you compare Dr Bhatti's fee with his peers who fall in the same reputed arena of global doctors, I think most would sign this off as a great offering for hair loss patients globally. Eugenix quoted around 4 CAD per graft but it was for DHI method. They produced some great results lately and they are the inventors of DHI which is now adapted globally; goes to show that they are researchers also - very impressive. As of 2019, I think Dr. Bhatti and Eugenix should be compared as top players if India is the selected destination for your HT Journey ( My comparison below) I almost finalized Eugenix over Dr. Bhatti but then based on my research, took a U Turn : Eugenix positive aspects: 1. Biggest is DHI - OUT/IN grafts within minutes. Definitely better method as compared to Traditional FUE . I could only find positives so far, no negatives on DHI. It's hard to logically beat DHI method with traditional FUE; so no doctor should even try it IMO. I wish Dr Bhatti would offer DHI to his patients by now ☹ 2. Clinics are located in major cities like Delhi and Mumbai. No need to drive / fly again from major airport all the way to Chandigarh. Eugenix Negative aspects: 1. Some patients mentioned that they were taken for a ride. Eugenix Docs prey on foreign nationals; after or during mid surgery – Dr. Bansal asked for 500 more grafts payment as required and payment must be done during the middle of the operation ( insane); also no breakdown/reasoning was provided in the end. On the contrary, Darling buds has returned some fee to few patients to their surprise which is a classy act of ethical business in my opinion (hard to find) 2. Eugenix costs are almost double than Darling buds( quite expensive for many) but anyways DHI is more costlier than traditional FUE globally and if results are better with more graft survival rate, most patients wouldn't mind paying more. 3. Eugenix is run in a satellite office format, more than one location and hard to get a hold of prime doctors - Dr. Sethi and Dr. Bansal where as Dr. Bhatti provides a peace of mind with one location, one clinic, one doctor who is also the owner of that entire facility with 15 good staff members well trained under him in a peaceful non polluted city near a hill station. #3 was a critical factor in my decision to go with Dr. Bhatti In short, I would’ve loved DHI for best results but I settled with FUE for now Note: Out of thousands, This site recommends ONLY 2 surgeons from Turkey, 7 surgeons from India and 1 from Canada ( I was surprised to see only Dr. Rahal in the list, yes Hasson is there but they're again advocates of FUT ), so HRN really helped me short list 10 surgeons before making the final call 2. ONLY FUE for ME – My heart said a Big “No“ to a linear scar; doesn’t matter if some Doctors persuade you with somewhat genuine reasoning's to avoid FUE such as : FUE provides Less density, FUT offers more grafts and saves Donor area as untouched for future sessions, FUE is a blind process etc. Dr. Feller and Dr. Soni ( Medispa India) seems like the two biggest advocates of FUT over FUE and I agree with some of their explanations as it sounds logical. Dr. Soni really pushed me to sign up with FUT and said his scar technique is different. Promised that he will close it in a way where almost no scarring is visible . It was tough buying into that argument, additionally recent negative reviews about him and I finally decided to brush him aside at that point. 3. Doctor MUST perform the operation (No technicians) – I could only find someone as reputed as Dr. Bhatti who performs 80% of the procedures that includes Hair trimming (to feel your hair ), Anesthesia, FUE Extractions with motorized punch and Incisions. In Turkey where I was almost sold at one point, all operations are run by Technicians. Not a Plastic surgeon, no educational background/ competency level ( it's scary as they're known as the butchers of HT industry) I wish Dr. Bhatti would implant the grafts too ( not his nurses) for extra cost but I guess it will be a tedious job for a busy surgeon to sit for another 4 hours or so ....... Am I asking for too much 4. World class facility matching North American standards : with Heart rate monitoring, proper blood tests, blood pressure check up, spotless , Face coverings during entire operation and sterile environment. 5. Super microscopes and Magnifiers is a must ( Most Turkish clinics operate with naked eyes, when I asked they tried to sell me bull *&**** ) This is extremely important during all 4 phases of operation : Extraction – To make sure proper gaps are left in between grafts in the donor area and get the right angle before using the punch. Sorting – To count how many pure singles, doubles, triples and quads ( if any ) are collected. Incisions – To ensure least collateral damage, magnifier will show 6 x scalp surface so during incisions, holes are made at the right angle, depth and only on bald scalp areas ( not where you've some fine hairs). This should also minimize some shock loss in the post op phase. Implantation - Imperative to only use pure singles / baby soft hairs in the very first few rows of hairline and Temples. If by mistake, they implant doubles – it will give a pluggy look and I would rate that transplant as 50% failed right then and there. If during implant, nurses grab a multi - haired graft, at least microscopes will allow them to revisit to find a pure single graft and then insert it in the right spot. Joe Tillman's video is quite helpful : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeQ4ZvEHb7Y 6. Doctor should have a solid reputation on major forums, hair restoration network, should be well read, traveled, have some global exposure, recommended by Bald-truth, Spex and many other HT mentors like Joe Tillman. Dr. Bhatti checks all those boxes. Yes – there are some mixed opinions about him (and every other Top HT surgeon out there) but perfection is impossible to achieve; so I decided to just look at the bigger picture and go for it. 7. Detailed info, pre op care, post op care, regular contacts and supporting your patients in their hours of greatest needs is of utmost importance. Its well know that Dr. Bhatti, Shera ( his rep) , California would contact their ex. Patients regarding some concerns, would stand by them and not disappear. This was impressive. 8. Patient advisor should be genuine, honest and straightforward – So far, Shera has been awesome, friendly and taking care of all my minor/ major concerns. Always reachable, quick responses and a real time patient who has experienced the same Doctor few years ago first hand. In the long run, it helps to have a contact like him for small chats if need be. I will continue to share my Journey with Darling buds and also, highlight If any red flags are there. So far, I’m just one naive internet researcher in this field who talks based on theories and hypothetical situations, I don’t have any practical experiences yet. Assuming I've made a good decision by choosing this clinic (over others) and trying to keep a positive mindset hoping I will be in good hands is the only thing I can do now. One Sr. Member said it wisely – “For Dr. Bhatti and his staff ( or other clinics) 18th March will be just another day with another patient like thousands came before and will come after, but for a patient who’s been researching on this constantly day/night, it’s a big life event and 18th is one of the most important day of his life after which either he could regain his lost confidence or could loose it forever “ After all, handing off your head to someone for the entire day isn’t one easy decision I’ve seen members here supporting each other against doctors if results aren’t satisfactory. That speaks volumes and the main reason as to why I joined here to gain support from my so called “Anonymous hair restoration family” Dr. Bhatti's hairlines were talked about – not too dense? Any suggestions? Should I revisit this with him ? I don't want a sparse hairline but Not sure if this was an old issue (one -off) Also, I’ve not met Dr Bhatti for any F2F consulting yet or a video consultation, plan is to meet him a day before my procedure. So far, Shera is my driving force. I’m hoping for a life changing experience (like many others), regain my lost confidence and I always say “ Hope “ is something that brings us to these Doctor’s doorsteps. Yes finance and reviews are important aspects but we all hope to be treated in the best possible way during our special treatment day. A little daunting for me to fly all the way, get operated in a surgical room, holes in my head but I’m collecting all the courage in this world to get this done. Shera is helping like one true Samaritan If some of you are able to read this completely, my apologies for such a long note but this is the only forum where I am able to write everything anonymously and vent out if need be. 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Disclaimer: I literally had my hair transplant days ago on April 9th 2019, so I don't have any Before/After photos to show just yet clearly. Down the road I am happy to post them to this thread. However, I do think that my experiences thus far are worth posting for people in my situation who are still researching and considering options. My story: I'm a 46 year old male with a balding crown. I refuse to be dragged into the land of the bald, and it's been something that I have been wanting to address for years. I decided to eschew the minoxidil/propecia route and I opted to go for something permanent. I'm American but I live and work in London. I do have family in LA, so I thought I'd look around LA to see if I could find a doctor the next time I was in town visiting the family. I did my research and in 2017 narrowed it down to Dr Parsa Mohebi and an unnamed competitor -- both highly rated on different websites, and both with very impressive resumes. I saw the latter unnamed doctor first, let's call him Doctor No. Doctor No certainly seemed impressive as my background research had suggested. Now, in addition to my balding crown, I also have a small area of scarring alopecia in a part of my forehead. Dr. No told me in my consultation that it would be no problem to address the crown and forehead issues over a day and a half of hair transplantation. Dr No also gave me a booklet of his extensive research on hair transplant techniques that he had published in academic journals. Hang on to to both of these facts for a second. To digress a bit here, I have a PhD in theoretical physics, and I am not someone who is easily impressed/intimidated by others' scientific achievements. So a folder of academic papers on hair transplant techniques is really of no use or relevance to me, other than a pure and cheap show-off tactic. I am not looking to research or learn how to do hair transplants. I am looking to have an expert do one. Whoopty-doo if he has published papers. With so many experts out there, I would almost expect nothing less. So I shelved Dr No, and a few months later on a subsequent trip to LA, I met with Dr Parsa Mohebi and this consultation had a very different flavor. Firstly, after inspecting both my bald spots he told me flat out that while the crown would be a standard process, I really didn't need to have a transplant for the small alopecia in my forehead, since I could simply cover it with other forehead hair while combing. More importantly, he wasn't certain whether hair could grow in that scar tissue, although he would be happy to take a biopsy to ascertain this. Two things about this. Here is a hair transplant surgeon sitting in a Beverly Hills office frankly recommending a cheaper and more cost-effective way to deal with one of my hair-loss areas, when any other doctor could have easily just said he would happily transplant hair to the spot, and make the extra buck(s) (per each hair graft). And it wasn't just his candor that stood out, but the fact that he didn't want me to do a needless procedure without verifying first whether it would be successful. The other unnamed doctor above seemed to have no qualms about this whatsoever. Note: I mean no disrespect to Dr. No despite my comical moniker for him. He did come across as a very competent and successful hair transplant surgeon and I am sure he is great. This is simply my personal opinion/experience. The other thing that stood out about Dr Mohebi vs Dr No: Dr Mohebi could have also wowed me with his academic research (which again would have been pointless and irrelevant from my perspective, as I already know that he is a renowned hair transplant surgeon from my background research). Instead he gave me a book that he has published -- THIS IS A MUST READ BOOK EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEE HIM -- "Modern Hair Restoration, A Complete Hair Loss Guide for Men and Women, 2nd Edition." The book is excellent and written exactly for people like me, who knew nothing about hair transplants, aside from all the myths and half-truths. He goes over all the techniques that are used (strip/FUE etc), what's involved in transplant procedures, the recovery process, etc etc etc, and written for the non-specialist and future patient. My research stage was now complete, and I was ready to take the plunge and go ahead with the procedure. And this is where I got to know and work with the team at Parsa Mohebi Hair Restoration better. Not only are they super-professional, but also super-nice and friendly. In fact, I had to cancel my initial procedure scheduled in November 2018, owing to a sudden bout of horrific influenza that hit me literally two days before my procedure. Melissa and Niki, who are part of his admin team were very accommodating and kindly worked with me to find another date in April 2019, with no extra expense on my side for the cancelation and rebooking. As far as the actual procedure went, Dr Mohebi's exhaustive (but very easy to read) book really helped with the prep. I had also spent some time watching other hair transplants on YouTube by other doctors so none of it was a real surprise. But I will say, it was much easier and more straightforward that I had expected. During the procedure, they let me listen to whatever music I wanted, and even listened to me talking nonstop (as much as I could without disturbing the procedure), and I even got to watch movies from their library, while they worked on me. Dr Mohebi's staff of technicians who assisted him on the day, Ashley, Christina, and Rizza, were very friendly, efficient, and not to mention thorough to the point of annoying in terms of the follow up, and with what I had to (and this also included all the pre-op instructions and prep I received). When I use the word "annoying" here it is meant as a *HUGE COMPLIMENT* to their thoroughness. You can tell a lot about someone from the quality of a team that they have assembled. My experiences with his technicians, and also Niki/Melissa who assisted me with the admin, speaks volumes about Dr Mohebi. The little things matter too. You have to go in on an empty stomach, but they offer you a three course tasty Persian meal (with dessert). I also appreciate that that they wash and donate the woolen blankets (that they use to cover you) to a homeless shelter. In the end they ended up using more hair grafts than they had originally estimated prior to the procedure. The tacit understanding is that I would clearly pay for any extras, however Dr Mohebi waived the extra charge. When I asked him about it afterwards, he told me that he had found two other smaller spots of scarring alopecia. Recall from above he was unsure about the suitability of a transplant for the area of scarring alopecia on my forehead. He decided to put in extra grafts in those small newly discovered areas, but not charge me because it wouldn't be fair to me if the transplants didn't last in those small areas that he himself was still unsure about. He did also perform a biopsy on the main scarred area on the forehead free-of-charge, and I am currently awaiting a pathology study on it to determine whether I can one day address that small patch with a transplant in a future visit. This story may perhaps be a bit atypical compared to some of the other threads on here, as I don't have any before/after pics, which of course is the true test of a successful hair transplant. I am after all still only on Day 4 after my procedure, and still religiously following the very thorough post-op instructions I received. However, I felt it was important to share my experience because if you are considering a hair transplant then at the very least a consultation with Dr Mohebi is well worth the investment. Incidentally, if you don't live in the LA area, note that Dr Mohebi regularly has patients from abroad and also offers travel and accommodation discounts. And finally, I am a believer in the fact that when you see a doctor for anything, the best results happen when you are working as a team with the doctor, as opposed to the doctor just doing stuff on you or to you, without you being involved in anyway. The technical term with physicians is "bedside manner" and any amount of research has shown the beneficial impacts this has -- ultimately it is your body that has to receive the treatment and "do the work" and heal and recover. The more empowered and involved you are, the better are the results and I certainly felt that way with Dr Mohebi & team. I hope this story is informative and helpful. Good luck, Batman25 -
Missing chunk of grafts?
Dr Blake Bloxham replied to geneticked's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
The dreaded "cracking." I think I receive at least one email per week from an understandably nervous post-op patient. Rest assured that this is expected. You did not lose an entire row of grafts, nor did you some how dislodge a perfect row or "chunk" of grafts. I have heard differing explanation as to why doctors think this occurs. I believe these cracks occur because the skin contracts as it heals. When you have thousands of small wounds covering tissue that has been stretched and swollen, you will get contractions that will appear like little rivers, canyons, cracks, or roads in the grafted area -- I have heard it described using all these different illustrative analogies. It happens even more frequently when dense packing is utilized. It can also appear more dramatic when you are scabbed up and a larger region of superficial scabbing (with or without some hairs attached) falls out. Rest assured, however, that even if you see these "cracks" or missing "chunks" above the surface, the grafts are safely anchored below the skin. They may be temporarily displaced from where they will eventually settle, but they are secure. Many people also assume that areas were missed during the transplant itself, and this is typically not the case. Just part of the healing process. Graft dislodging is a pretty specific event that happens within the first 3 days (when true follicular units are used). If you did not see an active bleed accompanied by an event within the first few days post-op, it is very unlikely that you lost a graft. And this to me just appears like the classic contraction from healing. Of course you should always keep your doctor in the loop and run this by him/her as well. Hope this helps. Dr. Blake Bloxham Feller & Bloxham Medical, PC | Great Neck, NY -
Can Going Vegan Cure Hair Loss
pkipling replied to Melvin-Moderator's topic in Open Hair Loss Topics
Resident vegan here, and as much as I would like to say that going vegan can reverse MPB in order to encourage other people to get on board, I simply don't think it's true from a scientific/physiological standpoint alone. As Dr. Bloxham mentioned, hair loss is genetic - and no matter what you eat, your genes are your genes. That said - being vegan/eating healthy in general does support my body/hair in other ways. The more balanced your diet is and the more nutrients you're getting, the better your skin, body, and often even your hair will respond - and if someone's hair loss is being caused by something other than MPB, like a lack of nutrients, then maybe the'll see improvements when they improve their diet. But reversing MPB? I'll stick with science and say no. -
Hair greed and other advice from Dr. Lindsey Patient
Motoro replied to Dr. William Lindsey's topic in Open Hair Loss Topics
I'm the dude in the video. I intended to chime in earlier, but my (healthy) aversion to hair loss forums kept me away. More on that in a moment. First of all, a big thanks to Dr. Lindsey and his staff, especially Wendy. This was my forth transplant with Dr. Lindsey, which says all you need to know. Donor hair is a limited resource and hair loss is a never-ending battle. Pick your surgeons carefully. I’m almost 39 and started losing my hair at 17. Every male in my bloodline, going back three generations, went NW6 by 30. I started minoxidil at 18, finasteride at 20 and dutasteride at 22 (replacing finasteride). I’ve been taking 0.5 mg of brandname Avodart each morning for the past 17 years. In the early 2000s—when the forums were less foolish and hysterical—people talked about “the big 3.” Minox/Fin/Niz. I took that to heart and never wavered, which is why I still have most of my hair in spite of genetics. In 20 years nothing has changed when it comes to drugs that work. The guys from the early forums who still have hair don’t have it because they ordered unapproved and untested drugs from China on the advice of online bro scientists. DHT-prone follicles are an even more precious resource than donor hair. Don’t mess around. Get on one of the two FDA-approved 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors and stay on it. Forever. While I’ve had four hair transplant procedures, they have all been relatively small FUE sessions—think 500-1000 grafts. I have thin hair and the illusion of density requires tight packing and multiple sessions. Realistically, that’s true of most people and is what you should count on. One and done isn’t reality for most guys and hair loss never stops. Let me say that again: hair loss never ends. The idea of “stabilizing” loss with meds before getting a transplant shouldn’t be confused with stopping loss—meds slow loss in good responders, at best, over a lifetime. And once you’re taken a surgical stand against hair loss, know that there will be more transplants in your future at your current vanity levels. Don’t think hair loss isn’t going to bother you once you’re reached some unspecified age. If hair loss bothers you now to the point where you can’t accept it, hair loss will always bother you. Finally, be careful about spending too much time on these forums. Countless folks lost hair they’ll never recover as a result of the finasteride hysteria that started around 2005. It’s easy to freak out online, quit the things that work and convince yourself your dick is about to break off and tumble down your pant leg. Don’t believe the hype. Take your meds religiously and if you decide to get a transplant, plan it out with the next several decades in mind. Thanks again Dr. Lindsey. I’ll stop by in 6 months or so to catch up. -
Here's my experience ( not so detailed for many ) - PRE OP, During OP and POST OP as this might help some folks who are on the fence like I was before I met Darling buds team and for folks who would like to live the experience thru someone else's eyes ( I always wanted similar insight before making a decision like Lennney's recent review really helped me ) Special thanks @Lennney I'd most likely post a new thread later ( as this thread got sidetracked now) with additional details as I recall them and add constructive feedback for the clinic ( if any) PREOP Landed at Delhi airport on Sunday 1:00 am - 17th march , some minor hiccups but finally took cab for decent price to Chandigarh ( 3 hour journey only night time, no traffic and we stopped to eat on the way at a famous restaurant). It was OLA cab ( a famous Uber India competitor with safe driver, i pad, WiFi all provided ) safety-wise, car was restricted with 80 km/hr max speed as per OLA's policy, so i felt much safer Reached Glades hotel ( prebooked for 5 nights by clinic rep ) at early morning, they gave me the best corner suite front facing with high back chairs that are required for sleeping after operation. It was premium room, the best this hotel offers Took shower, settled in, got a call from Shalini ( clinic's team lead ), she was very much concerned about how my journey was, was asking the right questions, she had called hotel previously also to inquire why I haven't arrived yet. Very professional lady, said take some rest, Dr. bhatti will meet me in the evening as initially we were supposed to meet 10:30 am but later she changed it to 6 pm. I was impressed with clinic's approach, flexibility and was feeling positive assuming from there ... now i am in their city, in their hands and they will take good care of my needs, will plan everything for me. This assumption turned into reality in the coming days. As soon as I checked into my room, Patient rep from England called me. I was delighted to see Shera is keeping an eye on my every movement to ensure I am safe, sound and happy with the hotel. He told me to rest assured me that Doctor will meet me the same night. I bumped into 2 patients at the hotel lobby - one south indian gentleman with his wife ( who was taking good care of him) and one from Netherlands - a tall caucasian fellow with black bandana on. Both assured me that I am in safe hands for my tomorrow's session. Talking with patients who were just done with their surgery, it gave me some more peace of mind. They only gave me positive feedback, nothing negative. One fellow did mentioned that Dr Bhatti doesn't talk much, will just answer if you have any questions but likes to move on fast as a high energy doctor. But at the same time, he said his operation was flawless, Dr Bhatti knows what he is doing and if you engage him - he might talk more with you. I insisted that even if it's a Sunday ( only one day off for clinic ), a holiday - I need to meet Dr Bhatti regardless to calm me down, give me peace of mind, discuss my Q&A otherwise I cant jump into operation day tomorrow on Monday. Dr Bhatti added me to his whats app rightafter, messaged me that he will come to hotel lobby around 7 pm and he arrived. We met at the restaurant, he told me to take off my baseball cap , showed him my condition, had a quick Q&A with him ( i had a long printout of questions lol ) , he handed over medicines that i need to take with dinner ( 5 tabs ). finally, I was relaxed after meet up F2F and enjoyed my first night, dinner and slept well. Overall, clinic delivered on their commitments and Shera also delivered on his promises for my preop journey. Full marks here. DURING OP - INSIDE OT - DAY 0 Clinic sent their driver at 7:30 am to pick me up, by 8:00 am - I was in their blood work room ( clothes changed to OT clothes, valuables handed over, met shalini first time, shoes taken off. Very organised process, well oiled machinery and the staff was all there to meet and greet me. Driver, staff, nurses, hotel staff - all courteous, attentive and caring. Some other reviewer mentioned - "In turkey, in majority of clinics you enter - you see 15 patients, 1 staff member. At Darling buds India, he saw himself as the ONLY patient and 15 staff members all to welcome him, take care of him and are dedicated to his surgery for the entire day " This was the case for me also so I was very happy as I asked to ensure if I am the only patient today, they said YES. 3 nurses came right after, two asked me if I am ok with needles as they need to take some blood samples. Took blood in 2 separate tubes as 1 for regular check up, 2nd for my PRP injection ( yes, it was a part of my package ) No time waste, then I was sent to reception area - meet and greet, then off to Dr Bhatti's office. He welcomed me again, some small chats, my Q&A again, he gave me realistic expectations, drew hairline an inch higher than my normal as I'm not in my 20s, rather hitting 40s soon which I agreed with ,he said no temple work required ( also agreed) , took some high resolution pictures from all angles. Then I was sent to next team - 2 ladies shampooed me , some antiseptic spray. Then Dr Bhatti personally trimmed my hair feeling them, their direction ( asked specifically not to cut them a month prior to surgery ) . In turkey, people see doctors for hairline session only, once done 15 minutes, NEVER AGAIN - I heard stories that are scary. Here, Dr Bhatti is telling me what he is about to do before every step. He said go inside OT. INSIDE OT - There were 6-7 nurses, all masked, couldn't see their faces, heads covered, gloves on ( stressing on this because in Turkish clinics where I was sold at one point, even most clinics posted their own OT pics on their websites where no gloves, face masks or microscope helmets during live patient's operations ) 3 girls at least had microscope helmets ON additionally with other gear. We joked a little, they welcomed me, said " Sir, dont you worry ). I asked about my blood test results if I am diabetic, high BP or any red flags are there... If yes, i am running back to canada and get SMP instead if surgery might kill me lol . They assured me i am all healthy and all HIV, Hep C, Hep B, Diabetic, High blood pressure results are negative. My heart said a big " Thank you god " One nurse put on Blood pressure jacket on my right upper arm, other inserted a small injectible tube on my left hand with tapes. 3rd nurse set up heart rate monitoring system with my first finger connected. They said these 3 components will be connected throughout the operation ( I was relieved as heart pulse, blood pressure should be monitored constantly during any surgery ) Dr. Bhatti enters with his combat gear on, helmet on lol.... explain what and how he's planning to do things on me today, next steps, to advise him if I need more anesthesia or feel any bit of pain. My surprise - Anesthesia was the scariest part for me, I was willing to pay extra 250 Euros to one Turkish clinic once for pressured gun ( needle less) . BUT, at darling buds - i later found out that they use 4 techniques - one nurse will bring a special icepack, other uses tapping on your head, 3rd controls your body/hand for heart monitoring and some accupressure technique and Dr Bhatti inserted the first injection in my head with anesthesia . I wasn't expecting that less of a discomfort, minor stingy feeling and here goes the next one, next and within 5 mins - first part of donor area was numb. Dr. said he will start using motorized punch ( i think 0.8 mm ) but to tell him if I feel anything. I felt nothing, some noise like a electric toothbrush. In between, you do feel some minor discomfort but that's a given. Bear it. It is like an endurance test for many humans Before I knew or was sleepy, half dizzy time flies by and donor harvesting was done - 2870 scalp donor grafts were taken out and 429 beard grafts after that. Breakdown below: 236 singles 2052 doubles 1011 triples Grand total: 3299 grafts equals to appox. 7500 new hair . Also, my existing couple of hundred hair if survive the shock loss, it will be almost 8000 hairs on my central part. Praying and hoping this is true when the time comes Then , relaxing time, some nice pizza, coke was served, in between water served if you feel thirsty. Lots of people joining hands inside OT, going out/in. Lots of multitasking happening as I could feel. During lunch, I was feeling a bit weak after harvesting due to the posture my body was in for the past 3 hours, it was obvious. plus that anesthetic and sedation used will add to the dizziness, weakness. A Senior Veteran visited me inside OT, i knew he was the dedicated anesthetist ONSITE that Dr Bhatti always advertised about making his clinic different than most others. This man asked me if I am okay, need anything, how is my head /body feeling. This MAN seems to know what he's doing and talking about. Seems like one of the most experienced Anesthetist, so a visit from him gave me more energy and I was fine after few bites into that veggie pizza ( that you pre- select before operation from the menu ) Then, Incision part that was relatively easy and comfortable. Dr. Bhatti performed himself all the incisions, we talked about many topics at a high level like Dr. Feller's post here, DHT, Needleless anethesia etc. Then, Nurses started implanting my invaluable grafts that were preserved in PRP + Stem cell liquid. Both had microscopes on. I felt no pain, really numb on my front scalp. The nurses seems to know what they are doing, I felt comfy to be in experienced hands. Dr. Bhatti was constantly visiting back and forth, asking if I am okay etc making sure the work is done nicely and patient is comfortable with no fatigue, dizziness, weakness or in any kind of pain. Dr. Bhatti did performed himself all those pieces that were promised - Hair trimming, Anesthesia ( all ), FUE extractions ( ALL - scalp and beard), INCISIONS ( all 3299 ) Worth mentioning - Dr Bhatti's nurses were extremely caring, when I was alone with them I felt no need to ask for Doctor. They have done major surgeries, thousands of satisfied celebrity clients but still they were treating me like I am the special, their first ever client in OT. They continuously monitored my heart rate, in between several times when I am too relaxed or half asleep, I hear a voice " Sir, please make sure not fall asleep. Please take long breaths, your breaths are going short now. Take longer ones now " Very caring every moment for those 3-4 hours during implantation, then as soon as I hear this voice, i start taking longer breaths, heart rate monitor started beeping slower and back to normal. so you kind of get used to your own heart rate pumping and are told to constantly manage 90 beats or so ( as I was told its getting less than 90 if I remember correctly), once its more than 90 - they said "you're back Sir " You're dehydrated for sure by the end, so make sure to drink water ( not too much also as one should try to avoid going to washroom often) Kudos to the nurses who implanted all my grafts, very caring, experienced. One nurse constantly changed heart rate setting to middle finger, then to the first one again to monitor the average or if one's getting loose with time, re-calibrate again. They asked me tea, biscuits. I confused them with a Yes, no, yes, no as a part of me wanted to eat , drink but another part of me wanted to get this over with as soon as possible. Last part was crown implantation, before starting Dr Bhatti came in again and inserted my PRP injection into many crown areas. Then I was made to sit on a chair, face inserted downwards, girls were giggling, joking about each other's grafts and their chosen territories on my scalp. They kept on ordering their junior nurse / subordinates in OT to bring a single, now double, to put some beard ones now, to spray saline water all over now. They acted like a doctor ( no joke ) very commanding, good leadership qualities, delegating to their junior staff to focus on particular areas ( I think it was poonam, one other I forgot her name as I specifically asked 4 times for my review lol , should've written them down) finally, by 6 pm ( 8 hours - 10 am to 6 pm inside OT) , all 3299 grafts were implanted. A long breath of relief, I was fine. Got out, next to mirror they sat me down. 2 nurses and Dr Bhatti bandaged/lubed my donor area nicely. They only day 0 night instructions were provided and only a few medicines for that particular night were given to me to be taken with dinner ( they make sure not to overwhelm you with post op care right after surgery ) . Dr Bhatti advised his driver to take me back to the hotel and next morning 9 am to pick me up again on day 1 to remove front bandages/ swap back ones. by 7 pm I was back in my room, was feeling proud of myself. I was like YAY, i am alive, healthy, got this done. I went into a state of mental Euphoria , ordered some delicious food thru room service, my neck travel pillow on, medicines with dinner, took some pics, thanked God, showed some gratitude and slept upright on the hotel chair. POST OP Another good thing about this clinic ( hard to find elsewhere) is that as long as you are staying in Chandigarh, they will keep on sending driver for pick up/drop off back to clinic, for everyday care, wash, bandage removal, bandage swap, Doctor interaction, Q &A, billing discrepancy ( if any ). One thing I was impressed with - I never paid for the procedure until after 6 pm on OT day ( most clinics and Darling buds included will ask to pay entire amount before procedure starts) , may be my day was a Monday and everything was planned to save time accordingly. But, this goes to show that clinic is not after payment only. They are concentrated on patient first, yes payment is important which we took care of later. I was quoted to pay 248,000 INR for 3500 grafts initially but after operation, I had a bill of 230,000 INR for 3299 grafts only as presented by Shalini. Clinic's post OP booklet, meds, shampoo, explanation, driver's extra care while making sure you dont bump your head with car door while getting in/out, all goodies - TOPNOTCH experience. I also purchased for 140 $ - 6 months supply of minoxidil, finas, biotin . Shera always called day/night to make sure I am fine, all my issues, doubts ( if any) are taken care of, they don't just leave you after operation. It's a constant touch with the clinic over the next few days. I met Dr Bhatti on Day 0, 1, 3 and 4. Reputed Doctors mostly charge for consultation half hour( 300 $ in Canada) for you just to be present in their cabin. Here I am sitting with Dr. Bhatti on Day 4th having a coffee, talking about DHI vs FUE vs DHT. His eyes lit up when you talk about HT, it seems this doctor lives and breathes HT only, his entire focus, study, energy level and most importantly passion oozes out of his eyes and body language clearly demonstrating that he is driven to make sure his clinic succeeds, he stays reputed or gain even more reputation. Clinic truly focuses on " Happy clients" than short term gains , they make sure you leave this experience with a smile on your face and no regrets/hard feelings even if a tiny bit, they dont waste time in resolving that matter for you in seconds. No arguments, if you're not satisfied with something - talk to clinic staff - Sonam or Shalini ( best girls, very caring) or directly with Shera or Dr Bhatti and they will make sure it's resolved. The day of my flight ( day 5th ), another driver in a 3rd car was sent to pick me up who only drives nurses bus or clinic staff. He said the 2 regular drivers are both busy but he was on time. They dont forget about your flight, who's leaving, who's coming in. Its like an army style operation. I met 2 other patients during my checkout at hotel lobby - one British and one Indian folk, the three of us had a good chat about clinic. Goes to show that this clinic is expanding over the last 10 years, have a global outreach, patients from all corners of the world you could see landing there. A special shout out to Shera - even after my return, he is in constant touch with me on whats app, guiding me moving forward, also without me asking : said that clinic will standby my results if not satisfactory after 6 months. This gave me reassuring answers to the burning questions in my mind : Why is this the clinic I chose, Why it's reputed in the first place and Why Darling buds made a name for themselves !!! I now feel that I know the answer to these Why's - Everyone in the staff, Doctor, patient rep, driver, even the coffee man will provide you with best possible customer service. My Rating - Staff/Nurses - 10/10 ( you can't ignore the importance of a great OT staff who also operates on your head) Drivers - 10/10 Shera ( patient rep) - 10/10 Dr. Bhatti - 9/10 I will give 9.5 to Doctor ONLY once/if I see some satisfactory results in the coming 6 -12 months and will officially only sign off Dr Bhatti as the chosen one if my results are good. Doctors should always be scrutinized more with strict marking initially so they continue to research, evolve, learn, adapt and improve their overall services for future patients. Rest assured, I know as a patient we have important part to play now - strict diet, all meds, exercise, no smoking, no alcohol, dermarolling, biotin, finas, minox , sleep, positive mind set, drinking water, cleaning scalp, sleep and the list goes on............................................................... You just name it and will find me doing it ..... I want to give this my best shot ( only thing no one knows as to how many grafts were damaged, bulbs, roots were crushed under forceps, not inserted properly, not extracted properly, not angled properly, singles not checked for frontal hairlines, how my 429 beard grafts will blend nicely with 2870 scalp grafts - will they or will they not ) I am not saying any of the stuff above holds true about my experience with Darling buds but as they say : " Results matter" and " Time will Tell"
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