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3582 GRAFTS I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE AND RESULTS OF MY OWN HAIR TRANSPLANTATION JOURNEY, TO HELP ANY OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO GAIN SOME KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS INVOLVED , AS YOU MAY BE CONSIDERING GOING ON THE SAME JOURNEY . ABOUT MYSELF : IM FROM IRELAND IN MY 50 s CLASSIFIED NORWOOD 6. I HAVE BEEN LOSING MY HAIR GRADUALLY FOR 15 YEARS, HOWEVER IT BECAME VERY NOTICABLE TO ME 6 YEARS AGO. I DONT TAKE ANY MEDICATION FOR HAIR LOSS. RESEARCH : I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS TO GAIN AS MUCH UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE AS POSSIBLE ON HAIR TRANSPLANTATION. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS FORUM FOR OVER 5 YEARS AND I HAVE GAINED LOTS OF INFORMATION FROM ITS MEMBERS ESPECIALLY THOSE MEMBERS THAT HAVE HAD A HAIR TRANSPLANTATION THEMSELVES . I HAVE CHECKED OUT YOU TUBE TO SEE DIFFERENT CLINICS AND DOCTORS AND PATIENT RESULTS. I VISITED CLINICS HERE IN IRELAND, CONTACTED CLINICS IN AMERICA AND CANADA , AND ALSO EUROPE. I SPOKE TO PAST PATIENTS AND FUTURE PATIENTS , I ALSO TRAVELLED OVER TO LONDON FROM IRELAND A FEW TIMES TO MEET SOME TOP DOCTORS . WHY EUGENIX : DURING MY RESEARCH I SAW PATIENT RESULTS AND TESTIMONIALS ON YOU TUBE ABOUT EUGENIX WHICH WERE REALLY IMPRESSIVE. I ALSO SAW MANY VIDEOS OF THE 2 FOUNDING DOCTORS DR.PRADEEP SETHI AND DR. ARIKA BANSAL. DR. PRADEEP AND DR.ARIKA EXPLAINED MANY DIFFERENT AREAS ON THE SUBJECT OF HAIR TRANSPLANTATION WHICH WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE. SOME TIME LATER DR.PRADEEP AND DR.ARIKA WERE RECOMMENDED ON THIS FORUM WHERE THEIR PATIENTS SHOWED SOME OUTSTANDING RESULTS, NOT JUST FROM SCALP DONER BUT ALSO FROM BEARD DONER ALSO. OTHER PATIENTS THAT HAVE GONE TO EUGENIX HAD POSTED IMPRESSIVE RESULTS ALSO. SO ALL OF THIS WAS GREAT PROOF THAT THESE 2 DOCTORS ARE HIGHLY SKILLED AND FURTHERMORE HAVE INVENTED THE DHT TECHNIQUE , DIRECT HAIR TRANSPLANTATION , AS THEIR IS SIMULTANEOUSLY EXTRACTIONS AND IMPLANTATION OF THE GRAFTS WHICH GREATLY REDUCEDS THE OUT OF BODY TIME MY GRAFTS WOULD BE SUBJECTED TO , MAYBE AT TIMES GRAFTS MIGHT BE OUT OF THE BODY FOR 20 MINUTES OR SO ALSO WHICH IS NOT VERY LONG.THE DOCTORS ALSO WROTE AN EXCELLENT BOOK ..STEP BY STEP HAIR TRANSPLANTATION. ALONG WITH THIS EUGENIX HAVE BUILT SOME STATE OF THE ART CLINICS WITH THE VERY BEST OF EQUIPMENT INCLUDING EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH MAGNIFICATION LENSES WHICH ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. ALL OF THE ABOVE ALONG WITH 2 DOCTORS WITH THE HIGHEST OF CREDENTIALS IN THIS FIELD, ALONG WITH MARVELOUS PATIENT RESULTS PROMPED ME TO REALLY CONSIDER DR.PRADEEP AND DR.ARIKA @ EUGENIX AND AT THE TIME BOTH DOCTORS WERE PLANNING TO COME TO THE UK FOR A CONFERENCE ON HAIR RESTORATION , SO I ARRANGED TO GO TO LONDON TO MEET THEM BOTH . I FOUND DR.PRADEEP AND DR.ARIKA TO BE REALLY NICE GENUINE PEOPLE WHO HAD A GREAT PASSION FOR WHAT THEY DONE , AND THEY ARE ONLY FOCUSSED ON HAIR TRANSPLANTATION , I BELIEVE THEY ARE TRUE LEADERS IN THIS FIELD. WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE IN MIND AND LOTS MORE I BELIEVE AND PUT MY TRUST IN DR. PRADEEP SETHI AND DR.ARIKA BANSAL AND SUPPORTING DOCTORS AND TEAM @Eugenix Hair Science AS THIS IS MY BEST CHANCE OF A SUCCESSFUL HAIR TRANSPLANTATION. JOURNEY TO INDIA : I CAUGHT A FLIGHT FROM IRELAND TO LONDON ( INSTEAD OF GOING DIRECT FROM IRELAND )AND THEN FLY WITH AIR INDIA FROM HEATHROW DIRECT TO DELHI . WHEN I LANDED AT THE AIRPORT EUGENIX REPRESENTATIVE ABHINAY AND THE DRIVER JALDHAR WERE THERE TO GREET ME AND TAKE ME TO EUGENIX CLINIC. ABHINAY ASKS ME ABOUT HAVING DINNER WHICH I APPRECIATE BUT I HAD PLENTY OF FOOD ON THE FLIGHT. DR.PRADEEP RINGS TO WELCOME ME TO INDIA WHICH WAS A NICE TOUCH ALSO. NELSON RINGS TO ENSURE ALL IS OK AND SLSO ASKS ME ABOUT DINNER WHICH WAS NICE. I ARRIVE AT EUGENIX CLINIC AROUND 12 MIDNIGHT AND A REALLY NICE ROOM IS WAITING FOR ME WITH COFFEE AND BISCUITS PROVIDED, VEEY NICE SITTING AREA IN THE BEDROOM WITH A LARGE ENSUITE . I HAVE A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP. D DAY: I GET UP AND HAVE A SHOWER AND BRECKFAST IS DELIVERED TO THE ROOM BY THE VERY NICE STAFF WHO ENSURE IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU NEED IT IS NOT A PROBLEM. I MEET DR.ARIKA AND DR.PRADEEP DOWNSTAIRS WHO INTRODUCE ME TO DR. SHISHIR. DR. PRADEEP THEN INTRODUCES ME TO ALL THE TEAM WHO IS INVOLVED IN MY SURGERY AND EXPLAINS WHAT EACH MEMBER OF THE TEAM DOES , AND HOW LONG THEY WORK WITH EUGENIX, ALL A VERY LONG TIME , SOME 10 YEARS. I THEN GO THROUGH SOME HEALTH DOCUMENTATION WITH DR.SHISHIR , MOSTLY A QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT MY OWN HEALTH . BLOOD PRESSURE IS TAKEN. I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DR.PRADEEP AND DR.ARIKA ABOUT MY HT REGARDING DONER CAPACITY AND COVERAGE . BLOOD SAMPLES ARE TAKEN ALSO TO BE USED FOR PRP DURING SURGERY. TIME TO CHANGE MY CLOTHES INTO SOMETHING MORE SUITABLE FOR THE PROCEDURE. THEN ITS INTO THE PHOTOGRAPHY ROOM WHERE ALL ANGLES OF MY HEAD ARE PHOTOGRAPHED AND HAIR IS COMED THIS WAY AND THAT WAY BY DR. PRADEEP , LOOKING AND CHECKING THE WAY MY HAIR FALLS AND DIRECTION . NEXT ITS THE HAIRLINE DESIGN WHERE DR.PRADEEP MAKES SUGGESTIONS AND DRAWS THE LINE , THEN WE TWEEK IT A LITTLE BIT . NEXT ITS TIME FOR A FREE HAIRCUT . AROUND THIS TIME IM GIVIN SOME MEDICATION IN THE FORM AS A ORAL SEDATIVE ,ORAL PAIN KILLER AND ORAL ANTIBIOTIC AND PROBIOTIC. THEN IT IS INTO THE THEATRE ( OF DREAMS ) WHERE ALL THE TEAM HAS EVERYTHING READY , INCLUDING A FINE BIG TV AND MUSIC PLAYING. THE SURGERY ROOM IS REALLY CLEAN, AND ITS ONLY THE TEAM AND MYSELF ALLOWED TO BE IN THERE TO PREVENT ANY RISK OF CONTAMINATION. DR SHISHIR EXPLAINS THAT HE IS GOING TO GIVE ME THE ANAESTHETIC . I CAN FEEL THIS VIBRATION SENSATION ON MY HEAD AND THE ANAESTHESIA BEING GIVEN TO MY SCALP AT THE SAME TIME. ITS NOT VERY PAINFUL AS THE VIBRATION SENSATION CLEVERLY TRICKS THE BRAIN INTO NOT THINKING OR FEELING THE PINCHES OF THE NEEDLES. DR.PRADEEP MAKES A LITTLE MORE THAN 3000 SLITS ON MY RECIPENT AT VARIOUS DIRECTIONS AND WHICH I DONT FEEL PAINFUL WHATSOEVER. DR.ARIKA STARTS THE EXTRACTIONS OF MY DONER ON THE SIDE OF MY HEAD , I DONT FEEL PAIN AND IM COMFORTABLE. ALL THE TECHNICANS ARE WORKING LIKE CLOCKWORK AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THEIR JOB. FROM TIME TO TIME I HEAR THE COUNT OF 100 GRAFTS EXTRACTED AND WRITTEN ON THE BOARD . THE MUSIC IS ON IN THE BACKGROUND AND IM COMFORTABLE, AND AS THE MORNING PROGRESSES I HEAR ..100 .....100 AND SO ON. SINGLE GRAFTS ARE PLACED ONLY ON THE HAIRLINE. GRAFTS ARE PLACED SIMULTANEOUSLY TO ENSURE OUT OF BODY TIME IS REDUCED AND WHERE IT DOSENT HAPPEN GRAFTS ARE OUT OF BODY FOR THE MINIMUM TIME POSSIBLE . LUNCH BREAK AND SOME REALLY NICE FOOD AND COFFEE PROVIDED IN A NICE ROOM JUST OFF THE SURGERY ROOM. BACK ON THE TABLE AGAIN AND MORE EXTRACTIONS WITH A MOTORISED PUNCH OF O.9 MM BY DR.ARIKA. WHEN WE FINISHED SURGERY FOR THE DAY 1960 GRAFTS FROM THE SCALP WERE EXTRACTED AND IMPLANTED INTO THE FRONT RECIPENT AREA. I WAS GIVEN MORE MEDICATION AS A PRECAUTION IN THE FORM OF ORAL ANTIBIOTICS AND PAIN KILLER AND PROBIOTIC TO BE TAKEN WITH MEALS IN THE EVENING AND BRECKFAST NEXT MORNING. SPRAY SALINE EVERY 2 HOURS ON THE RECIPENT , WHEN YOU GO TO BED YOU DONT HAVE TO DO IT. IM FEELING GOOD THAT DAY 1 IS OUT OF THE WAY AND HAVE A SHOWER , BUT NO WATER ON THE HEAD OF COURSE. DR. PRADEEP VERY KINDLY TAKES ANOTHER PATIENT AND MYSELF OUT TO DINNER FOR THE EVENING TO A REALLY NICE RESTAURANT. A LOOSE CAP OR SIMILAR IS WORN WHEN OUTDOORS TO PREVENT THE RISK OF INFECTION. I ARRIVE BACK AT THE CLINIC , HAVE A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP, EVEN THOUGH INSTRUCTED TO SLEEP ON MY BACK SO TO NOT DAMAGE THE NEWLY IMPLANTED GRAFTS ON THE FRONT. DAY 2 : HAVE BRECKFAST DELIVERED TO THE ROOM WHICH CONSISTED OF SCRAMBLED EGG AND TOAST AND COFFEE. ARRIVED DOWNSTAIRS AND MET THE DOCTORS AND TECHNICIANS. I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH DR.PRADEEP AND DR.ARIKA AND WE DECIDED TO PLAN FOR SCALP AND BEARD GRAFTS. THE BEARD GRAFTS WOULD BE EXTRACTED AND IMPLANTED INTO MY MID SCALP ALONG WITH MIXING THE BEARD GRAFTS WITH SCALP GRAFTS IN THE AREA. THIS WOULD HELP TO GIVE MORE DENSITY AS BEARD GRAFTS ARE GOOD FOR DENSITY, ALSO I WOULD BE HOLDING ONTO MORE OF MY SCALP DONER GRAFTS WHEN REQUIRED FOR THE CROWN WHICH I PLAN TO DO ON ANOTHER VISIT. BACK ON THE TABLE AND DR. SHISHIR GIVES THE ANAESTHETIC AND DR.ARIKA CARRIES OUT THE EXTRACTIONS OF MY SCALP GRAFTS . TV IS PLAYING WITH MUSIC AND ALL IS GOOD. NO PAIN , NOW AND AGAIN I DID FEEL A PINCH HERE AND THERE AND THE DOCTOR WILL STRAIGHT AWAY GIVE YOU MORE ANAESTHETIC . LUNCH BREAK. LOVELY LUNCH PROVIDED AGAIN TODAY, ARRANGED BY NELSON WHO ASKED ME EARLIER WHAT I WANTED. YOU CAN HAVE A CHOICE OF ANYTHING YOU WISH , WHICH I HAD A SELECTION OF A LOT OF FOOD, I COULDN'T FINISH. AFTER LUNCH IT WAS TIME TO DO THE BEARD GRAFTS . DR.ARIKA MADE SOME MORE SLITS TOWARDS THE BACK TO ACCOMADATE MORE SCALP AND BEARD GRAFTS WHICH AND THIS POINT WE KNEW WOULD BE MORE THAN 3000 SLITS THAT DR PRADEEP HAD DONE YESTERDAY. ANAESTHETIC WAS GIVEN UNDER THE CHIN BY DR.SHISHIR . FELT A LITTLE PINCH BUT NOTHING OUT OF THE WAY. EXTRACTIONS WE CARRIED OUT BY DR. ARIKA USING A 0.7MM MOTORISED PUNCH. ALL WENT VERY WELL. AT THE END OF TODAY : SCALP DONER 926 GRAFTS . BEARD GRAFTS 696 . = 1622 GRAFTS TODAY + 1960 GRAFTS YESTERDAY GRAND TOTAL = 3582 GRAFTS. DR. PRADEEP LOOKS OVER THINGS TO ENSURE ALL IS OK, AS HE DID THROUGHOUT THE PREVIOUS DAY ALSO. DR. ARIKA AND DR.SHISHIR AND ALL THE TECHNICANS HAS VAST EXPERIENCE AND REALLY WORKED GREAT AS A WHOLE TEAM SO ALL IS GOOD . IM TAKEN INTO THE PHOTOGRAPHY ROOM FOR MORE PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN BY DR. PRADEEP WITH AN ASSISTANT . IM VERY HAPPY THAT ALL IS OVER. I WAS GIVEN MEDICATION TO TAKE WITH DINNER AND AFTER BRECKFAST ON THE MORNING. DR. PRADEEP VERY GENEROUSLY GIVES HIS TIME AND TAKES NE OUT TO DINNER TO A RESTAURANT FOR A DELICIOUS MEAL WHICH IM STILL THINKING ABOUT, AND WILL VISIT AGAIN WHEN IM BACK TO DO MY CROWN. TAKE THE MEDICATION ,I HAVE A GREAT NIGHTS SLEEP. DAY 3 : BRECKFAST DELIVERED TO THE ROOM AGAIN. TAKE THE MEDICATION RECOMMENDED. I GO DOWNSTAIRS AND I MEET DR.ARIKA AND DR.SHISHIR AND DR.PRADEEP AND ENSURE ALL IS OK. ONE OF THE TECHNICANS PUTS BEATALINE SCRUB AND OINTMENT ON MY DONER AS PART OF THE DAILY REGIMENT FOR THE NEXT 7 DAYS. MEDICATION FOR 7 DAYS: 1 ANTIBIOTIC 3 TIMES DAILY , 1 PAIN KILLER 3 TIMES DAILY . 1 PROBIOTIC . BEATALINE SCRUB ON THE DONER IN THE MORNING. ANTISEPTIC OINTMENT TWICE DAILY. SPRAY SALINE SPRAY EVERY 2 HOURS. MASSAGE THE FOREHEAD REGULARY TO PREVENT SWELLING . THERE IS ONE OTHER TABLET TO TAKE DAILY HOWEVER I CANT REMEMBER WHAT IT IS THIS MOMENT IN TIME. I WAS GIVEN SALINE SPRAY AND A BACK UP OF A SMALL BOTTLE OF SPRAYTO TAKE ON THE PLANE , WITH A LETTER FROM EUGENIX EXPLAINING THAT I HAD A HAIR TRANSPLANTATION AND WHY I NEEDED IT. THERE WAS NO ISSUE AT ANY AIRPORT. DR.PRADEEP SHOWS ME AROUND MORE OF THE CLINIC DOWN STAIRS WHEREVRECEPTION AND OFFICES AND BATHROOMS ARE AND ONE HAS TO BE IMPRESSED HOW CLEAN AN MODERN THE CLINIC IS. ITS TIME TO GO TO THE AIRPORT FOR HOME , I SAY GOODBYE TO EVERYONE AND WILL BE BACK AGAIN. ABHINAY ACCOMPANIES THE DRIVER JALDHAR AND WE HAVE A GREAT CHAT FOR OUR 25 MINUTE OR SO TRIP TO THE AIRPORT. I CATCH A FLIGHT FROM DELHI TO LONDON . AFTERCARE BY EUGENIX . WHEN I ARRIVED IN LONDON, AND GOT TO MY HOTEL DR. PRADEEP RINGS ME TO ASK HOW WAS EVERTHING WHICH WAS A REALLY NICE TOUCH. ALL IS WELL. HE REMINDS ME TO MASSAGE MY FOREHEAD TO HELP PREVENT SWELLING AND TO CONTINUE SPRAYING SALINE ON MY RECIPENT. EVERY DAY DR.PRADEEP OR A MEMBER OF STAFF HAS BEEN IN TOUCH THROUGH WHATTS APP VIDEO CALL OR MESSAGES TO ENSURE ALL IS OK . I HAVE TAKEN PICTURES OF MY SCALP AND SENT THEM FOR DR.PRADEEP TO LOOK AT. I MUST ADMIT THE AFTERCARE IS EXCELLENT AS DR.PRADEEP AND EUGENIX REALLY CARES ABOUT YOUR WELLBEING . THEY SEND VIDEOS OF HEAD WASH AFTER 7 DAYS AND WHAT TO EXPECT LEADING UP TO THIS TIME , BUT ALL IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD , IM FEELING GOOD WITH NO PAIN WHATSOEVER. MY EXPERIENCE WITH DR.PRADEEP AND DR .ARIKA , ALSO DR.SHISHIR AND ALL THE TEAM OF TECHNICIANS , ABHINAY AND NELSON AND ALL THE STAFF WHO PLAYED A ROLE BEFORE MY ARRIVAL, DURING, FOR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AND COFFEES AND DINNER AND ALL THE TEAM WHO ALL SHOWED EXVEPTIONAL WARMTH , FRIENDLINESS AND CARE WITH AMAZING HOSPITALITY WHICH I WILL NEVER FORGET AND WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL..THANK YOU SINCERELY. THANKS TO YOU TO HRN AND ITS LEADERS , WHO ARE DOING A MARVELOUS JOB AND ARE VERY DEDICATED TO MAKING THIS FORUM A GREAT BENIFIT TO EVERYBODY . THIS IS THE BEST FORUM IN THE WORLD . ITS MEMBERS ALSO PLAY A GREAT ROLE SO WITHOUT YOU I WOULDN'T BE HERE , SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. .............ALL THE BEST......... .................PADDY................. -
Hey all, I've been a long time lurker and recently took the plunge and did a transplant. I thought I'd share the results here as I'm pretty satisfied. I originally researched Dr. Panine 3 or 4 years ago and did a consultation as I had started receding. I met with Stuart at the time who handled my case was was very knowledgeable in general. Originally I was impressed but could just not afford the operation and didn't want my parents paying for it. Then in 2019 in the middle of march I took the plunge after going back for a second consultation. Stuart was still working there and remembered my case, we talked for a while, I met the Dr again, then I booked it. I wasn't promised anything crazy, since Dr. Panine had seen my Dad's hairline, he filled in where it would fall, and extended my hairline to the perfect spot. The procedure itself took something like 12 hours. I was very nervous at first, but the office is nice and you get this million dollar view of the lake while they work on you. Then within an hour I was chatting with everyone and comfortable. Post procedure I did have really strong swelling, which you can see in one of the pictures. For the next 2 weeks it looks like I was in the ring with mike tyson, and I lost. I was fortunate enough to be able to work just over 4 weeks remote for work, otherwise it would be really difficult to hide swelling and scars. I don't know if that's unique to me but I would urge people to expect a longer recovery. At least that's true for a person like me with very light skin and hair. I also was not able to take pain pills as they made me throw up, so I stuck to tylenol and alleve. Truthfully the pain wasn't that bad, it was just uncomfortable. It took a couple of months for the grafts to start coming in so I wore my hair long in a very awkward style. I wore a hat whenever I could. I was pretty upfront with most people that knew and saw me about my transplant. Everyone was curious, some people even asked for number/address of Dr. Panine which I provided. At the moment I take 1mg Finasteride and the results are probably so subtle I don't notice it. But I do believe it's keeping more of my hair from falling as I don't see several strands when I comb my hair anymore. Overall if I had to do it again, I totally would. The results are worth it, and when you start to see the hairs coming in thicker you feel on top of the world. You get back the restoration of confidence that no amount of money can give you. I actually probably will go back and do another in a couple of years because one of my sides isn't as thick as the other. When I go back, I'll go to Dr. Panine because I trust him and his work. Also just to be clear I was not paid, nor given a discount for this review. Also no one at Dr. Panine's office asked me to do it, I offered as I am happy with my results and appreciate all of them. day of procedure, I got these pics from Stuart: recovery progress in june I took at home: recovery progress in june, I tried to keep same lighting, camera and time of day as my last one: -
Hello, Now it's finally my turn to give back to this community by sharing my story, experience and progress of my hair transplant surgery which I did with Dr. Koray Erdogan at ASMED Clinic in Istanbul 9-10th Jan 2020. Background I'm a 29 year old guy from Sweden and I started experiencing hair loss when I was around 22. I started to lose hair very slowly, it was barely noticeable but as baldness is in my family I kind of knew it would eventually turn into NW 5/6 and wanted to do something about it early. So I booked a consultation with New Hair Clinic which was the top clinic in Sweden at the time, but they suggested me to wait a few years before undergoing surgery. I didn't really feel my situation was that critical so I followed their advice and didn't do anything about it, but I did however get useful knowledge about hair loss and about finasteride, minoxidil and the lasercap even if I didn't start using any medications immediately. I was a bit skeptical to finasteride due to potential side effects but started using minoxidil 5% at age 24 and after a few months I could already see both regrowth and thicker hair, it felt really nice and all my anxiety about hair loss dropped, situation was handled. I've read about people that tried minoxidil and didn't see any results (or at least not quick enough) so they became skeptical and eventually stopped it. Well it's true that some don't see as much improvements as others, but for me it really worked and I got great results. I learnt (the hard way, I'll come to that) that the important thing is to be very patient and consistent with it, in the beginning I was using it mornings and evenings every day and held on to it during the shedding phase and that was probably key for me. Unfortunately at age 26 I got a bit overconfident about my hair and got sloppier with the daily minoxidil routine. Mainly it was due to that I had summer vacation and I was travelling a lot so I started skipping days, but then I had also got used to my hair being so full for such a long time and somehow thought that I might have stabilized it and didn't need minoxidil anymore. Which was false obviously... Within a month or so I immediately started seeing my hair fall off again and this time it was getting even thinner and on the crown too. At this time I began researching about hair transplant clinics again and did an online and phone consultation with Dr. Saifi at European Hair Transplant in Poland who I had read some good posts about in a Swedish forum. He quoted me 2200 grafts for the frontal and part of the mid-section area. He had a waiting list of 6 months, but I ended up not booking as I still didn't feel ready and hadn't got the push to actually do it. I started with minoxidil again and was able to recover a lot of hair. This time I applied it only in the evenings as it was messier to apply it in the mornings and I wanted to style my hair without it. I did however apply almost double the dose (maximum daily dose) when applied in the evening. I didn't know if it would still be helpful but I thought to try it out and it actually helped keeping it stable so I continued like that for another 2 years. Then last year at age 28 I underwent a tough period that got me to seriously consider a hair transplant. I stopped using minoxidil as I didn't prioritize it due to personal circumstances and a lot of change happening in my life (including new job & country). I was well aware that I would probably lose hair again but I accepted it and thought that if it would get really bad I'd just shave bald. It took a month or so and I panicked when I saw the hair loss and realized I actually didn't want to lose my hair, note sure what I was thinking before. So I started with minoxidil again and the shedding phase this time was horrible. My hair never fully recovered again to how it was before the shedding and that's what pushed me into actually going for a hair transplant. After having done research online and reading a lot on this forum and seeing good results I decided to contact Dr. Koray Erdogan for a consultation where he quoted me 5000 grafts for the front, mid and crown areas + recommended finasteride to stop further hair loss. I didn't take finasteride but continued with minoxidil (until 2.5 weeks prior to the surgery), and then it took me a year of consideration until I eventually booked the surgery with ASMED now in Jan 2020. The consultation I had my dad with me who is a NW6 and the first thing Dr. Koray did was to go and inspect his hair to see where I'm headed. The bad news was that my dad's hair had become thinner also on the sides and back, and he said that if I would to follow the same pattern then my donor area would not be as strong as it might seem right now. Although I was not happy to hear that I was glad that he noticed this as I will now be careful to not over-harvest my donor in case of future surgeries. He then also inspected my hair and did a calculation of my donor capacity which was estimated to 8300 grafts. He said that I had to start with finasteride as I didn't have enough donor capacity to cover my full head if I were to loose all existing hair in the future (estimated to 8700 grafts). Was not very happy to hear this either, as I had already during the online consultation expressed that I preferred not to take finasteride but that I was fine with continuing with minoxidil as I had seen good results from it. They had then said that they respected this, so I ended up having a small argument with the doctor as he tried convincing me to take it, and that if I didn't he would rather not want to do the crown area right now but use the 5000 grafts on the front and mid-section and then do the crown next time. I didn't like this option as I wanted to prioritize the front and crown as I already have some hair in the mid-section which I hope to keep for a couple of years with the use of minoxidil, and instead consider a second surgery in the future if I would need it. Anyway, as the doctor convinced me that the risk of side effects is very little and that taking it would help against shock loss and improve growth during the first year, I decided to try it out and he supplied me with Proscar for 4-5 months (1.25 mg daily). He drew a hair line which was a bit more conservative than what I had aimed for, but given that I had limited donor capacity and after seeing the pre-consultation photos that were taken by the clinic I realized that my hair loss was much worse than I had perceived it and accepted his suggestion. The pre-surgery care, clinic & surgery days As many other members have already described these parts I will not go into much detail. But what I can say is that everything from the contact with my patient coordinator Andreea, to the pickup from the airport, to the greeting at the clinic and the surgery itself was very professional. I stayed at the clinic for 5 nights and the service was exceptional. All of the staff were very nice and the food was great. Before going I was hesitant whether I should stay at the clinic or book a room at Radisson Blu hotel, but now afterwards I don't regret it at all. It was very comfortable not having to leave the facility, having breakfast, lunch and dinner just outside your room and get to meet other patients that were also staying there in the spare time. They had live music in the evenings, big screen TV, pool table and the basement had a high quality gym and basketball area. What I also appreciated was that for patients staying over the weekend, ASMED arrange a free city tour of Istanbul with a private guide where we got to visit the famous bazaar, the blue mosque and the city center. Hair situation and medication - Androgenic alopecia: NW5/6 - Finasteride: Proscar (1.25 mg) started with the procedure. - 5% minoxidil (topical): Been using it daily for 5 years (Stopped it 2.5 weeks before the surgery but will start using Minoxidil foam in a few weeks) - Daily hair-loss shampoo: Nisim NewHair Biofactors Shampoo (Normal to dry) Graft distribution - Total donor capacity: 8300 - Total transplanted grafts: 5078 - Hair thickness: 61 microns - Ratio: 2.03 hair/graft - Single: 1190 - Double: 2658 - Triple: 1103 - Quadruple: 125 - Quintuple: 2 I think I've covered most of it now and will keep uploading photos of the progress here. Feel free to ask me anything if you have any questions. /KM90 -
Hi guys! Im new here in this great community, but definitely not new to hairloss stuff. I already had a fair research with a help of this forum and users experiences, as part of my journey to my (soon) HT. I will tell my story in short. Im 30, and been suffer from hairloss for about 10 years. There are no words to describe how this has been effecting my life, Im pretty sure more than almost anybody else here. I always have been concern with my look to a level of obsession, and in some point I realized I have BDD (body dysmorphic disorder) , Started as a teenager, got in depression cause I didnt like my appearance. But with time I grew up nice and was very pleased, till hairloss kicked in. I can actually remember the very day it started lol, I noticed my temples receded a tiny bit, and got panicked immediately. and from that point, it was doomed. I became obssesed with my hairloss 24/7, it increased my overall bdd to a new levels. I immediately jump on meds, but they didnt stop it, dont know if they did anything but I just kept taking them. with the years hairloss kept advancing slow but steady - major temple recession, front hairline receded a bit, and thinning on top. I realize in some point that HT is my only option to get my hair back and actually get my life back, and did a research 2 years ago and consultation with both Bisanga and Lupanzula, which both were great, but I ended up deciding to postpone it for several reasons. And now it is the time for sure. So, to the point, I need your help and opinions on any matter here that can help me get the best that I can. I added pics below. My goal is to restore my hairline and temples - This is the most important for me, I have to have a good frame, and preferable good density in hairline and behind it. I want to lower a bit the hairline and even consider to reconstruct the temples points a bit. As about the procedure type - I thought Im going for FUE all the time, but after reading in this forum Im not so sure. I read alot of advantages for FUT - you can get more grafts from your donor, the yield is higher, and overall better chance for more quality results, is that true? Yes of course there is a scar, but first Im not going to shave my head never in my life. I do shave the back and sides closer than the top of course, but not on zero guard, so im not sure how much of a problem it will be. Also, the price is lower, which is a plus, but I want to say here that generally price is only second priority for me. Second, Im still not sure which doctor to choose. Im from middle east, and the best for me would be someone from Europe (I dont even consider turkey). currently in my list are Bisanga - great surgeon, care about his patients, I already had consultation with him in the past and I got very good impression. but he specialize mainly on FUE, and if I decided on FUT I guess there are better options? Also, is his type of work considered dense packing? Im not sure. I would love to get good density in the front. De Freitas - which has amazing results, but im not sure about waiting list, does someone here knows what to expect? and also, I heard that communication is problematic since he speaks spanish. I dont know, but it seems like an issue to me. Feriduni - great doctor as well. but most of his cases look too conservative to me. and he is also specialize on FUE (?) what you think? Dr.Maras from HDC, cyprus - He is a great, reputable surgeon, with great results. And although he is recommended doctor here, I dont see many posts about him, or even mentions, when people here talk about the best doctors. I wonder why is that, wouldnt you consider him in the same level as the other top tier doctors in this list? Im not sure about his specialty in FUT though. But the good thing is his clinic very close to me, and actually has representation in my country. Hattingen - I heard about this clinic here, and saw some good results posted by them, but not alot of patient results. I do read many opinions of people praising this clinic, but I really cant tell I guess... The rest of the options are in US/Canada. I mean, I really hate flights, and long flights to canada or US seem like nightmare for me. Im not afraid of flights, Im just kind of big guy and it's really uncomfortable for me to sit there for so many hours. But since I cant compromise on the outcome even a bit, I guess I would have to take them into account as well. in my list: Dr Hasson from H&W - I read so many great things about Hasson. Looked for lots of patients posted results. not one negative review, and almost all are amazing, and also lots of cases similar to mine, with outcome I would kill for. I think he is actually number one for me in the list, since he does great FUT as well as FUE. The only problem is the distance about 13 hours flight. What do you think? would you fly so far for this? it really bothers me... and what if, god forbids, I will need a touch up or something? those flights can be very inconvenient. Im not even talking about frontal consultation, which Im not sure if they require it before the procedure. Dr.Konior - also great doctor as I read hear and some other places, but I really know less about him than the others. Im still in the research phase so I will get some more knowledge on those doctors and other that come up. This list is not closed at all, I would be happy to hear any (honest) opinion or suggestion. I would appreciate any response, and you can be sure that I will share with you my experience, when it happen, hopefully soon. Pics attached look really bad when it is not styled and combed... but I need to show them. -
@Carjoca this happened to a very close friend of mine last month and Dr. Pekiner also stopped his surgery because his grafts were minituarized. When I had my surgery I commented this with Dr. Pekiner who told me that if my friend had went to any of the many Turkish hairmills they would have said nothing and taken his money. I do believe this to be true but sorry I can’t name these clinics (I am here to read about the Doctors that are achieving great results and not to investigate the bad ones). From the many threads I read with results from Turkish Doctors none had the high level technique or results achieved by Dr. Pekiner or Dr. Keser. So for me, when I talk about Turkey I only recommend these two Doctors. Ofcourse other people are free to reach their own conclusions and have a very different opinions (hence one of the reasons why we all talk in this forum). -
I chose Dr. Kaan Pekiner because he has many great results at Bellicapelli forum from beard and chest hair mega sessions. I sent pictures of my chest hair but Dr. Pekiner said it wasn’t viable for BHT. HLC Ankara also has great results for BHT grafts but you don’t know which Doctor will be doing your surgery and the best one, Dr. Akin left in August (they say he’s on holiday but it’s not true). With Dr. Akin leaving HLC I don’t recomend any other Doctor for BHT in Turkey other than Dr. Kaan Pekiner. You can check my results thread to see the 1888 beard grafts he extracted.
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Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time reader of this site while I’ve been on my own hairloss journey, and similar to many other people, I’ve decided to share my story and details of my procedure here to help anyone else who may be planning a similar path and would like to see my experience. The background I’m now 33, and I initially realised I was thinning around 10 years ago. My older brother thinned around a similar time, my Grandad was bald though my Dad (in his 60's) still has thin hair coverage. Initially it was just on the crown of my head before it thinned on my temples and I tried a number of solutions before realising I needed to take Finasteride and to look into Regaine / Rogaine products. I joined the hair restoration programme at Boots here in the UK, and paid the equivalent of £1 a day for Propecia. I’m very fortunate in that I don’t think I have had any side effects at all! I tried Regaine, but after a year I really didn’t notice any difference so I stopped it. About two years ago, when I moved to Barcelona, I started taking a generic form of Finasteride which is available over the counter in Spain. It’s in 5mg pills which I cut into four segments and I take one a day, at a cost of about 10 Euros for about 4 months’ worth (far more cost effective…). I also began shaving my head short (not skinhead, but shortly cropped) – and I had a micropigmentation procedure (basically a tattoo on my head) that certainly helps my head look a darker shade, but didn’t really solve the hairloss issue. While I feel happy that the finasteride has slowed down the hair loss and the pigmentation procedure helped disguise my situation, I’ve never been happy with the crown / corners of my hair and so I’ve worn either Toppik or Mane Hair Thickening Spray (dark brown) for a while which I feel covers up my hair loss really well. However, as soon as I lean against a white wall or sleep in a bed that doesn’t have dark bedsheets, I leave behind a black mess and I always knew I’d go down the hair transplant route one day. Plus I was recently with a dude who ran his hand through my hair then saw the black mess on his hand and was like ‘what’s this?’. Let’s just say I’d prefer not to deal with that kind of embarrassing situation again. Deciding on the hair transplant An ex of mine told me he’d gone to Este Grande in Istanbul for his transplant but it seemed a little too cheap to be true. He’s only just had his procedure and I think it looks great, but it’s too soon to tell and I didn’t want to choose price over quality reviews. Another ex had gone with DHI Global in Greece (I seem to have dated a lot of people with hair loss issues huh?), though I’d read some reviews of DHI that didn’t make me feel confident. I used these forums and found out about Dr. Erkan Demirsoy / Armamed and took some time looking through his work and reading through forum posts from people who’d chosen him, and I was sold. As I don’t need to create a new hairline (just lots of focus on the crown and temples) then I feel confident that for his price, it would be the best for me. He’s quoted me the standard 3500 – 4000 hairs, for 1.25 Euro a graft. I booked, and fortunately he had space in about 6 weeks’ time from when I booked. Today I'm flying from London (where I currently live) into Istanbul and my procedure is tomorrow on April 17th. I fly back to the UK on the 19th where I’ll spend a week with my family recovering and stuffing my swollen face with Easter Eggs. I’ve included some pictures here which show my hair before the MSP procedure and after the MSP procedure, and my current situation where I’ve grown my hair a bit which will help Dr D see the whole hair picture, which isn’t so easy to see due to the MSP procedure I had. You may notice my hairline isn’t all that straight (ironically) but that doesn’t really bother me – I’m happy with where my hairline is and would only want the temples filled in. I usually use Mane HT spray as I think it provides a really good cover up solution and some of you reading this may find it’s a better, temporary solution while you consider the transplant path. Final words I’m really looking forward to the procedure and will do everything I can to get the best yield. I’m a non-drinker or smoker, and I'll do my best to follow all the professional advice I can to get a good result. I play sport a lot – mainly cycling, lots of rowing, weightlifting and I walk everywhere so I’ll be keen to get back into that afterwards. My biggest fear in all this is being 6’5” (195cm) and the fact I hit my head everywhere I go….the metro…doorframes…lampshades…low hanging branches. Finally, something I’ve learnt from what I’ve read is to manage my expectations. I’m not expecting that I’ll come out of this (after a year) with a full head of hair. I just want MORE hair in the places that are thinning, and to not feel like I’m 53 when I’m 33 and to not leave a dark brown trail mark in white areas. All future posts will be shorter but I wanted to give you the background to my journey. The following post will show the pictures on surgery day and please feel free to ask me anything or comment as I’d love to share my experience with you all. -
So I've seen a couple of posts here mentioning Dr. Konior in Chicago as being a good choice for African American FUE, but almost all of the examples of his work I've seen so far, both on this website and his website, are of people with straight hair. Is it true that he is one of the best for curly/kinky/afro hair and if so where can I see some of those results? -
@Zoomster very impressive hairline with those micro irregularities. A true work of art. Was it Dr.Sethi that designed your hairline ? ........Paddy....
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Hello mate! Please, can you tell me how did you contact with Dr.Demirsoy before the surgery? I plan to have a hair trasplant too, i like the results of Dr. Demirsoy, but when i googled his clinic Armamed, i have found nothing, no photos of clinic, couldn't find building on google maps/streets. I've contact with his assistant via email, and he ask me about down payment 500 euro, and i don't know, is it true website and clinic or not. A lot of things make me hesitate. Thanks. -
I have never heard of Dr. Wise, in NJ I would look no further than True and Dorin. -
I had a "Celebrity FUE" procedure at Dr. Parsa Mohebi's office yesterday in Encino, CA. This is my initial post and will detail my journey with this procedure. I will continue to post occasionally until the final result is achieved. About Celebrity FUE / Unshaven FUE Procedures For those who don't know, "Celebrity FUE" is the term Dr. Mohebi has used to describe what is also known as a "non-shaved FUE procedure." On his website, he details both that this is a non-shaved procedure, that "the Celebrity FUE technique allows patients to keep their hair long during their procedure." I have attached screenshots of these statements to this post. At this time of writing, there is also a video on his Celebrity FUE page which says, "we don't cut, trim, or shave any hair." Why I Chose Dr. Parsa Mohebi As a public health professional, my top priority is to conceal my hair transplant from my patients while also getting good results. I had initially booked an FUE procedure with Dr. John Diep, but Dr. Diep told me he would need to shave the baby hairs on my hairline to implant the grafts. Although I admired his results more than anyone else I had seen within the US, ultimately, his statement led to me canceling the procedure with him. After reviewing many, many other surgeons, I scheduled a consultation with Dr. Mohebi., who I had bookmarked from my prior search - specifically because he offers a "Celebrity FUE" procedure. It was the most expensive of options I could have chosen, but concealing the transplant was critical to me, even if the results might not be as ideal to me - as long as it was good enough. Another selling point to me was that he said, as he does on his website, that "80% of transplanted grafts will already have your longer hair." During the consultation, I was assured like the videos that there would be no cutting of my current hair so that I could completely conceal the transplant. Additionally, when I asked Dr. Mohebi if he performs the surgery himself, he said straightforwardly said "yes." He reinforced that the grafts would be of my longer hair and said I would see a good preview of what my hair would look like after the full results were achieved. Not only was this attractive to me because I could conceal the transplant, but also potentially pull off a more enhanced hair look for the first month after the surgery. Surgery Day / The Experience The meeting I had with him in-person the day before the procedure went well. We examined my loss pattern with a microscope and determined the density of various areas, particularly the donor area. I showed him pictures of my hair loss progression over two decades (starting at 16 years old, I'm now about to turn 36). We created a long-term plan for my hair restoration that included potentially rebuilding the temples at some point (though not necessary) and thickening the crown and vertex at a later date when it is needed. When I arrived the next morning to begin the surgery, he asked me if we could trim my baby hairs around my hairline. Whenever anyone says trim, it means literally to trim - not shave or buzz off. Even though I did not give consent to this on the written forms, I said yes verbally because I knew he was indicating that doing so would provide optimal results for incision and inserting the grafts. He then told me there would be a few ladies assisting him during the procedure. I imagined these assistants would help with graft harvesting and counting. Once I was in the chair, I was sedated with laughing gas and one Valium. Once sedated, he requested "the clippers" from one of the technicians and buzzed off about a half-inch all around the hairline on my crown - my hairline now resembling an old Nicholas Cage. I was not happy, but it was too late, I was sedated, and there was no point in pulling out at this point. Once I was fully sedated, Dr. Mohebi used his syringe to provide me with good local anesthesia as needed. The pain was more minimal than a regular injection you would receive from a lab technician doing bloodwork. Dr. Mohebi then began extracting a number of grafts from my donor area using a tool that made drilling-like noises - the puncher, I assume. I do not believe this tool was used on extracting all of my grafts, and Dr. Mohebi himself did not extract all of my grafts. After a short period of time, probably around a half hour, and while my head was now positioned down facing the floor, I stopped hearing his voice but felt the work continuing. When I asked what was happening and where Dr. Mohebi went, the four female technicians said "he has left to do other things while we catch up for him with the graft removal and placement process." This process continued, largely without Dr. Mohebi for the remaining 9 hours of the 10 hour surgery. The female technicians continued to chat with each other thoroughout the surgery. Dr. Mohebi would check in about once every two hours for about five or ten minutes to see how things were going, usually to administer more local anesthesia (I assume the technicians are not able to do this). Once he came in and rotated a couple of grafts that one of his technicians had inserted for him, I heard him say "these here need to be turned around." I was not happy with this process since I was told he would be conducting the surgery and there was no mention of technicians who would essentially be doing the whole procedure for him - technicians whose credentials I have no knowledge of and that I was not able to evaluate prior to my surgery. It is my understanding that all graft removal and placements are critical to the outcome results of the surgery. I would say Dr. Mohebi was in the room for a total of less than one hour for the ten hour procedure, and often for only 5-10 minutes at a time, usually to administer more local anesthesia. I did not vocalize my unhappiness during the procedure. The last thing I wanted to do was cause a stink while a group of people are operating on my head whose mood/focus I might affect. But I was not happy. A significant amount of the hair that I use for coverage of my temples had been buzzed off, and the process of the surgery was not what I was told it would be. I could have seen Dr. Diep for the same offered procedure (a buzzing of my baby hairs with FUE grafts) for thousands of dollars less and more density/grafts! The extra precautions I had requested be taken with Dr. Mohebi to conceal my operation and keep my hair have not only been been compromised, but disregarded when the doctor knew this was my top priority. Additionally, though he told me in an email prior that 80% of the grafts would contain my longer hair so I could see a preview of the results, he said at the end of the surgery that only half of the implanted grafts had hair. The hairs that were there were not my full length either, so it seemed pointless to me that we did this method of a procedure at all. The procedure itself was not painful. The four female technicians were very polite, though it did bother me that I had no idea they would be performing the surgery and what their experience/credentials were, if they were rented assistants, etc.... There were a couple of bad (i.e. mildly painful) punches that happened on occasion, but it was so minor that it barely registered. The most uncomfortable part was the pressure on my forehead from laying forward for a long time, and my hands/arms would go numb from laying them underneath my chest. I took three breaks in total throughout the 10 hour surgery - one of them for lunch, and the other two to use the bathroom. In total, I received 1567 grafts. Of those grafts, roughly 338 were triples, another 950 were doubles, and 279 were singles. I was given Valium, some extra strength Tylenol, and Prednisone to help me through the first days of recovery. Next Day Follow-up Meeting In my follow-up meeting the next day, one of the technicians from the surgery showed me how to wash my hair for the next four days. I felt the post-operation procedures were explained to me thoroughly. Finally, I met once more with Dr. Mohebi for about 10 minutes. I told him that I had a comfortable surgery experience with minimal pain, and that I was looking forward to seeing how the results turned out, but that I was very disappointed with how much of my hair was buzzed (not trimmed), which would compromise the concealing of my hair transplant, and also that I didn't appreciate how he told me he would do the surgery but in the end his technicians did. Although I could tell he was trying to remain professional in his response, he was quite defensive. At one point, he told me "I was there for most of the procedure, you just didn't see me because your head was down." I told him I knew this wasn't true because I heard every time he entered and left the room, and that I confirmed his absence with the technicians. He looked surprised. He then told me at least he did all of my graft extractions and incisions. I told him this was also not 100% true, because the technicians told me they were continuing to do extractions for him while he was gone. He then told me it was in my best interest to not have him insert my grafts anyway, because "I am not good at graft insertion. When I try to do it, my technicians laugh at me." I believe he continued to minimize his role in selling me on a procedure that did not meet our shared understanding and agreement. Finally, he was able to say: "I'm sorry. Thank you for your feedback. I will certainly consider it in how I advertise this procedure going forward." I was calm and rational with him throughout this conversation, but I was pretty upset with the accruing dishonesty made by this man, further reinforced by his responses to me during the conversation. I made my point clear though: I was lied to about the details of the procedure. My remaining hair looks drastically different and will not provide the coverage or natural lift as an unshaven head would have provided to conceal the operation, which is what we were going for. Far fewer implanted hairs are in place, and the ones that are look out of place. He told me he would be performing the surgery. He did not mention it would be completed by technicians nor that he his involvement would be minimal, let alone that he is "not good at graft insertion." I paid $21,000 for this procedure. I could have achieved 2000-2500 grafts with Diep for the same process of a procedure (and he was honest with me about it). I believe I was sold with a bait and switch approach here, and that hurts, given how much trust, vulnerability, and investment goes into this process. Had me told me from the first consultation when I asked him my questions and said, "we may need to shave part of your hair for optimal results, and my technicians do most of the work," then I could have made a more educated choice. I'm more than sure he was aware of this. These doctors are salesmen and marketers too, not just surgeons. Having said all of this, I do look forward to seeing how the results come out. I really do. I like the hairline that Dr. Mohebi drew for me. In 12 months I am hopeful that I will feel happier with my appearance than I do today. If the results are good, which I am hopeful they may be, it will be a significant improvement to my self-esteem and long-term concerns about my hair. But it doesn't change the facts of what happened, the bait-and-switch tactics, and the enormous additional cost to have a procedure done that did not do what it said it would do or performed by who said he would perform it. The procedure itself was not painful. What is painful is that the top reason I chose this particular procedure and to pay the incredibly high cost for its specialty approach was pointless. Not to mention the emotional pain of putting my trust, vulnerability, and a high premium financial investment into a procedure that could have been replicated cheaper and with an outcome that I believe would have been more desirable. And so regardless of my final results here, which I hope are good, it won't erase the reality of what has transpired here. I believe that I had the right to have the realistic process explained to me given my questions, concerns, and priorities for having the procedure with Dr. Parsa Mohebi. I will continue to post and update on my progress over the months ahead. I have attached pictures for exhibit of what is currently advertised as a Celebrity FUE procedure on his website, along with an email exchange, and pre-op pics of my hair and now post-op pics of my hair. While it is too late to go back in time, and although l am upset and have lost more money (and potentially though hopefully not compromised my results), my hope is that for those of you reading this you will realize how important it is to ask every little detail about the procedure. Even when I asked "will you be performing the procedure?" and received an immediate and straightforward "yes," it was later minimized and defended post-op by him saying "but I was there." We need more transparency and honesty in marketing. When it's not there, one cannot help but wonder why. -
I have had roughly 6000 strip procedure Grafts done by Dr. True of True and Dorin medical. The results have been very good. But as you can see one of the scar area is very large in one place. After visiting with another prominant hair replacement surgeon I was told this is due to a poor knotting teqnique and that I could absolutely add some grafts to the area via a FUE procedure and also some micropigmantation tattooing..when I asked Dr.true if he would do something about it because I felt he was obligated to fix it he said he couldnt and that I should do scalp tatooing at one of his partners who does the work. A few months later I sent these photos to both Dr. True and Dorin and explained that after spending over 30 thousand dollars in there office I felt they should atleast step up to the plate and fix this one section. I recieved no reply. In my opinion they should have and could have easily added 50 fue grafts and gotten me a discount at their tatooing partners atleast to fix the area. Ok. It doesnt mean you shouldnt go to them.They do great work and have talented technicians.It is just a warning that if anything negative does arrise it seems as if they will not fix it. Unless of coarse you will pay for the mistake out of your pocket. It seems once they have gotten all they can get from you thats it. Your out. You signed papers that says they are not responsable for basically anything that goes wrong and they are not obligated to do anything for you. Honestly. they are probabaly all like that. Regardless ,I did go to a good surgeon to add some grafts to other areas and got the micro tattoing to help with the scar. It is what it is. good luck -
True and Dorin scar photos and review
rstty replied to rstty's topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Anzel.You will have very good results. Do not worry. I am very happy with mostly everything except for the fact that they did not offer to alleviate the scar. The rest of the scarring is fine. Its just that one section. most likely you will not have that problem. Even if you do it can be fixed. I am just saying that from my experience Dr. True wont be the one to fix it. Unless he see's that he can get more cash from you. Thats just an opinion. -
This is 100% true. I keep trying to remind the forum of this fact. It’s not a hunch, it’s a fact. There are no guarantees in hair transplant surgery. This is why your cry for a refund and lawyer was absurd in a previous thread. I hope this thread sheds some light into what I see daily. dredd I feel for you, I really do, but there’s not much else the surgeon can do for you. There are no money-back guarantees, as patients we willingly accept that, there may be a chance that we will not get the desired result. I’m sure Dr. Pekiner told you this, or had you sign this, as he seems like an ethical doctor. Now, here’s what I think you should do, rule out any underlying conditions, get some second opinions. If you decide to have another procedure, do a test run maybe 100 grafts in one area, just to make sure they grow and there is no physiological reason the grafts didn’t grow. Lastly, I’m glad you found our forum, we’re here to help, one of the last forums like this IMO. But you need to take advantage and actually use our forum. We have some good knowledgeable guys here like Transplantedphil, gillenator, lasercap to name a few.
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It is simply a fact that FUT is still more popular than FUE...by far. In the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13 Jim Lovell's wife asks why her husband's flight to the moon was not being televised live. The answer that was offered was that NASA "made going to the moon seem like a trip to Pittsburgh ". The same goes for FUT. The success and popularity of FUT has been so well established and proven over the past 20 years that it is taken for granted. There is no excitement in viewing the results of an FUT patient because we have already seen, literally, thousands of them online. Sure, there are variations from doctor to doctor, but by and large the results are predictably good. FUE SEEMS like the "next step", but it has been around for 14 years and it's safe to say that it has failed to launch. What has happened is that the pool of wishful thinkers and uninformed patients has grown and there has been no shortage of clinics willing to service these patients. So the number of patients has grown and thus the number of results online. But if you compare the ratio of successful to unsuccessful procedures FUT wins hands down. And this is for predictable reasons. FUE suffers from three detrimental forces that no doctor, clinic, or innovator has yet to overcome: Compression, Torsion, and Traction. You can add Skeletonization to that list as well. FUT does not suffer from these forces. This illusion of popularity is sparked by the interest of a FEW posters on websites like this one. But it is the very nature of this interest that betrays the weakness of FUE. We are all captivated by the man who walks along a tightrope a hundred stories off the ground. "Will he fall?" Same thing with FUE, but in this case it's "will it grow?" And if it grows "will it be as good as strip"? For all the distortion surrounding FUE one line has not been crossed, and that's the claim that FUE actually grows better than Strip surgery. Thankfully, that hasn't happened...yet. The best FUE can claim is that it grows AS WELL AS STRIP. So why not just get strip?! I'm in the business 20 years and that's what I did. You think I would pick an inferior procedure? Vehement FUE supporters, all of them lay non-doctors, say that FUE has improved over the past 14 years. This is simply NOT TRUE. It is wishful thinking. Nothing about the procedure has changed except for the hype and the number of clinics offering it because patients engage in either wishful thinking or are simply uninformed. NOT A SINGLE FUE DOCTOR HAS COME ONLINE ANYWHERE THAT HAS MADE A CLAIM THAT THEY USE NEW TECHNOLOGY. Only lay, non doctor, unaccountable FUE chest beaters who post anonymously have made this claim. Recently a poster on here made such a claim and I offered to host a three way call between him, me, and the doctor he said made the claim- and then post the call online. He did not take me up on the offer. Instead he made a limp-wristed attack on me and then disappeared. Nothing has changed in the world of FUE. A punch is used to score around a graft causing torsional damage. The graft is then grasped with a forceps causing compression damage, and then finally it is literally RIPPED out of the scalp causing traction damage. Sure, there are new machines to assist in taking out the grafts, but they either cause more damage doing it, or they only mimic (poorly) what an experienced FUE practitioner can do. I won't even go into the ridiculous extra costs these "technologies" involve. FUE has it's place, and in some cases it even has a place in megasessions. But I state without reserve that ANY time you see an FUE result, no matter how good or bad it looks, that same patient would have looked BETTER if he had a strip procedure. Furthermore his prospects for future surgery would be better and his donor area could be used more efficiently. FUE is the "have your cake and eat it to" procedure. And in some cases this may be the case. Such as in the hands of very dedicated and very experienced physician practitioners who carefully screen their patients. However, just scanning this website's chat forums alone I have seen more negative postings from patients who actually underwent FUE than I do positive ones, and precious few posts that involve actual FUE results from patients themselves. What you really see are posts by enthusiastic hopeful patients right after FUE surgery but no actual results posted- even years later. What happened to these FUE patients? While the same thing does happen with FUT from time to time, FUT already enjoys thousands of online megasession before/after photos, whereas FUE hasn't even made it to more than a hundred to two hundred yet...and that's after 14 years! If every doctor who performed a hair transplant surgery tomorrow were to check in on this forum and tell us what HT surgery they performed on that particular day you would find 99.9% would be FUT, not FUE. But you would not know that by reading forums because FUT is old news and unexciting. How many before/after pictures of a 2500 graft case can you look at before you become bored? And it is this very reality that demonstrates the reliability and strength of this procedure. FUE has it's place, but NOT first place, and it never will. Dr. Alan Feller
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In 2017, I travelled to Madrid and underwent an FUE hair transplant with Dr Lorenzo. A year has passed and I wanted to document my progress and help guide anyone else considering the Injertocapilar Clinic, or an FUE transplant in general. — I never knew I was losing my hair until it was too late. My rate of hair loss was gradual. There were no hairs on my pillow or in the plughole. Since I had a high hairline, I failed to properly recognize the degree of recession that was occurring. However, by my mid-thirties, my hair loss was becoming noticeable and I was not entirely happy with my appearance. Sometime around 2015, a friend took some photographs of my scalp and I was shocked to find that I was sporting the kind of thinning hair that I imagined I might have as an old man. My hairline was high up on my head and my crown had started to open up. As a spunky guy in my mid-thirties, I was not ready to have an aged man's head on my body. After some months of quiet anguish, I decided to do something radical and shave my head. This was surprisingly liberating. For the first time, I had control over my hair, rather than the other way round. As soon as I let the clippers do their work, I was no longer at the mercy to the whims of my scalp. I wish I had done this sooner. Hence, I’d recommend that anyone considering a hair transplant shaves their head first. Shaving is a big step to take in its own right. However, I immediately discovered that when there’s no hair on your head there’s no problem to deal with! A shaved head can also look (very) cool but you won’t know until you do it. Give it a try. I rocked the shaved head-look for over a year. However, I eventually decided to opt for a hair transplant: whilst I was confident with my new appearance, I wanted to recognise my face looking back in the mirror, rather than the physiognomy of a baby-faced Jason Stratham. I had my reasons. Several years ago, I had made it a personal mission to restore my youthfulness and vitality. My body was starting to pick up the aches and pains associated with ageing and living a sedentary lifestyle. However, I was able to turn the clock back, with a regime of calisthenics and an improved diet. I figured it would also be fun for my hair to also follow suit. Besides, I reasoned that if the transplant didn’t match my expectations, I could simply revert back to shaving my head and wearing the hell out of a suit. In this way, shaving my head actually helped me take the decision to get a transplant in the most positive of ways. Who knew? I began researching the various online forums (including this one) for suggestions on where to find a great doctor. I kept my time on the forums brief but eventually, I narrowed my search down to what I objectively considered, the top three hair surgeons. They were: 1. Dr Feriduni (Belgium) 2. Dr Rahal (Canada) 3. Dr Lorenzo (Spain) I contacted each of their clinics and made online enquiries. I sent in photos of my hair and corresponded with their respective staff. Spex, who represents Dr Ferudini, was particularly helpful. However, Dr Lorenzo contacted me personally (on Christmas Day, no less). I appreciated this personal touch, his frank feedback and the breadth of his portfolio of work. Many before me considered him the greatest hair surgeon on the planet. I figured that if I was going to get this procedure done, I’d opt for the best of the best. With a mixture of gut instinct and mental deduction, I chose Dr Lorenzo. (NB. There was not much difference in quotes given by all three. I paid in several instalments and I believe the total was around 12-13K Euros) It is a big decision to fly to another country and undergo a hair procedure. Personally, numerous objections in my mind came up, such as: ‘You’re already happy, surely this hair procedure only serves your ego?’ ‘The procedure is expensive, wouldn’t you rather spend that on a holiday?’ ‘Do you want to be taking Finasteride for the rest of your life?’ I decided I have a whole lifetime to make more money and that getting a hair procedure was more to do something good and nice for myself. However, the thought of taking meds every day, admittedly, held me back. I view my body as my greatest asset in life and I didn’t want to be dependent on ‘popping pills’ for my cosmetic appearance. However, after researching Finasteride, I deduced that any negative side effects were pretty much short-term and fully reversible. (I read the horror stories out there too but I calculated, statistically, the risk-to-reward ratio very favourable toward a positive outcome. I'm geeky like that.) I sourced the Finasteride online (www.hairlossexperiencesshop.co.uk), which came as 5mg tablets that I divided into five smaller bits and took every day. After several months, I had happily encountered no ill effects. At this point, I decided to contact the clinic and book the procedure with Dr Lorenzo. There was a 10-month waiting list, which was frustrating in the face of my impatience but the time quickly flew by. Before I knew it, I was on an economy plane seat to Madrid. I enjoyed the city, which has a great cultural vibe and is easy to explore, via the metro system. I stayed at a nearby hotel arranged by the clinic. I met Dr Lorenzo, who speaks perfect English, for a consultation several days before my procedure. We had conversed online and his personal assessment was that my temporal peaks and hair line would need completely rebuilding. I also had a small gap appearing on my crown that could be filled. On close inspection of my scalp, Dr Lorenzo also noted that my donor area was excellent (hair, I think, was 53 microns) and suggested a transplant consisting of 3,500 grafts. (NB. I didn't appreciate at the time that one graft can have several hairs, so the amount of hair that was to be transplanted was much more than 3,500...) During my consultation, I asked lots of questions that I had written down and he candidly answered every one. His focus throughout my consultation was the pinnacle of professionalism and this put me instantly at ease. I left his office feeling that I was in very safe hands. On the day of the procedure, I arrived at the clinic very early. I met Grace, a nurse from the UK who now works with Lorenzo. Grace would be on hand over the next two days to talk me through what was happening. I changed into scrubs and was given a valium. My heart rate was also taken. My head was shaved and I was asked where I would like my new hairline to be! I decided to let Dr Lorenzo draw the line on. After all, I figured he’s done this a lot more times with a pen than I have. Just as the valium started kicking in, I was lead to the room where the procedure would take place. Let's fast forward. What does having a hair extraction feel like? Well, the short answer is that it feels like having your head pricked with a cocktail stick around 1,500 times! The procedure began with me laying comfortably on my side whilst I let the anaesthesia take effect. Dr Lorenzo oversaw the extraction team as they began removing my hairs. He performed several extractions himself and guided the team, as required. I listened to music and even fell asleep several times. Occasionally, I’d feel an extraction, which felt like being jabbed with a sharp stick. More pain relief was promptly given. This procedure went on for about four hours. With everything considered, the whole process was actually not too bad: about as uncomfortable as flying on a budget airline plane seat for a long haul. Bearable, not terrible...with much a better lunch. After all the extractions had taken place for the day (1,500 in total) I stretched out and ate some lunch in the kitchen area of the clinic. I chatted with the extraction team and Grace, who was on hand to assist. Everyone at the clinic was very friendly. After a short break, it was time for my extracted hair to be implanted. What does having a hair transplant feel like? Again, it feels like having your head pricked with a cocktail stick...a further 1,500 times! Dr Lorenzo, with a Jedi-like focus, began the procedure of implanting my extracted hairs. I am usually a very chatty guy but, in this case, I had the sense not to interrupt him as he entered a flow state of concentration. It was at this moment I was supremely glad I had chosen a true expert to perform this intimate type of work –and not got it done on the cheap in a less developed country. With hindsight, I would definitely recommend a 'saving n' shaving' approach when selecting a doctor: it is worth it. Dr Lorenzo is clearly an artist as well as a surgeon and I sensed that he really took care to make sure every hair was inserted at just the right angle in just the right place. One by one he added hairs to my scalp. I listened to music and dozed off a few times. After several hours, we were done for the first day. I looked in the mirror and, for the first time in almost two decades, saw that I had hair again! It was an emotional moment to see how my entire image was being transformed. However, at this stage, my image was more akin to a whimsical Harvey Dent than a handsome Bruce Wayne: there were two distinct sides to my face: one side with hair, one without. Before departing the clinic for the day, I was given careful, simple instructions on how to look after my freshly transplanted hairs and driven back to my hotel. This mostly involved spraying my head with a saline solution to keep it wet. Despite having a head like a hairy Swiss cheese, I had a pleasant night’s sleep. I awoke the next day with light trepidation: the sleepy thought of being pricked another 3,500 times was a little disconcerting. Then I remembered how awesome the prospect of having hair was, which dispelled the negative feelings. At that moment, the hotel shuttle whisked me to the clinic. I arrived, met the staff and the work continued. I was prepped in the same way as the previous day, and the procedure was repeated. Poke, poke, poke! The time passed slowly. However, by the end of the day, I had hair. Bruce Wayne achievement: unlocked! My head was a smattering of red dots but the hardest part was done. That night, I slept carefully in my bed, using a pillow provided by the clinic and, again, spraying my head every few hours with the saline solution. I also took some vitamin D3 to help assist in the healing process. Before heading home the next day, I attended the clinic for an assessment and a debrief. For those interested, here are some stats from the surgery: Extractable Grafts: 6,924 Actual Grafts Used: 3,501 Overall Hairs Extracted: 8,477 Total Hairs Used: 42.8% Hair/graft ratio: 2.42 Temporal: 300 grafts (2.25 hair/ graft) Parietal: 1,451 (2.41 hair/ graft) Occipital: 1,750 (2.46 hair/ graft) Single: 353 Double: 1,488 Triple: 1,497 Quadruple: 159 Quintuple: 4 Sextuple: 0 The procedure had been a success and now the task was up to me to keep my head protected to ensure the optimal conditions for all the transplanted hair to grow and the donor site to heal. Apparently, it takes nine days for the transplanted hairs to completely take root in their new locations. Dr Lorenzo suggested this happens even more quickly but I fixed my sights on keeping free of any potential stress for the next nine days. The initial days following the operation were quite challenging in ways I had not anticipated. My head swelled up for a few days due to the lingering aesthetic in my system. I looked like Thanos’ nephew. Happily, the comical swelling subsided and was then replaced with a bigger challenge. The donor area was covered in thousands of little scabs that became incredibly itchy. Of course, I was under strict instructions not to scratch. I can imagine the greatest feeling in the world would have been to have scratched those itchy bits…but…I resisted! However, the itchiness was so severe it descended into a mixture of pain and mental despair. It kept me awake for several days and was far more challenging than the transplant itself. Eventually, I found relief by applying cold aloe vera gel (kept in the refrigerator) to the affected area of my head, which significantly eased the sensation. After a few days, the itchy condition passed and my sanity returned. After a few weeks, with the redness of scalp starting to fade, I could enjoy my newly transplanted hair. It even started to grow! Although short, it felt great to have my hairline restored to my younger self. During this journey, I made a point to tell almost everyone about what I was doing. I decided that trying to hide the obvious is the same thinking that leads to comb-overs. Lots of my friends were really interested in the procedure and everyone was supportive. Curiously, I think the question I got asked the most was “…how much did it cost?” After a few weeks, my transplanted hair began to fall out as I entered the so-called ‘ugly duckling’ phase. I guess no patient likes to see their new hair vanish, even temporarily, so, at this point, I decided to skip the drama and keep my hair super short, returning to my former Jason Stratham look for the next few months. However, this time around, I wasn’t able to use clippers (you have to wait five months) but I got by cutting my hair with scissors. Short hair made the process of dealing with the changes happening on my head much more manageable. However, as soon as I cut my hair short for the first time, post-op, I made a positive discovery. –There was no scarring in my donor area! I had assumed that all the hairs taken from the donor site would leave little-pitted scars. I had seen such pictures, online, of other FUE patients and accepted this as par for the course. However, I had no scarring at all. My skin was smooth. I suspect this is because of the extraction technique used and the skill of the extraction team. I was a very happy client indeed and extremely happy I opted for Dr Lorenzo and Injectocappilar. Life then continued as normal. After five months I returned to the clinic for a checkup with Dr Lorenzo. I must say he really is a perfectionist and took the time to look closely at my hair and its progress. By five months my hair was beginning to thicken. There was some concern about the density around my temporal peaks. The hair in this area was a little thinner. Dr Lorenzo concluded that we must wait another five months to see how the hair will progress. Six months after the procedure I began to let my new hair grow properly. As the hair grew thicker and it was an amazing feeling to look in the mirror and see the same style of hair on my head that I had, fifteen years prior. After ten months, I returned to see Dr Lorenzo for a second, and final, check-up. The hair had thickened considerably during this interlude. He was very happy with the overall outcome. He suggested that we could put in 50-250 more hairs in the peaks down the line to thicken them up a little more. This is something I may consider, but it's not really an issue for me at present. What does transplanted hair look and feel like? Well, ten months after the procedure, the hair feels exactly like normal hair. It has all the same sensations when you brush or comb it. Running your fingers through your new hairline feels like it has always been there. The sensitivity of the scalp is identical to before the procedure. My new hair covers my head perfectly. I now have a hairline and temporal peaks that frame my face very nicely. The patch in the crown of my head has been completely filled, too. Dr. Lorenzo really stretched those 3,500 grafts well. The density of the transplanted hair at the front is not as thick as my original hair. However, it is pretty thick and from months six to ten (present) the thickness of my hair continues to increase. I’m not sure how it will change looking ahead. The transplanted hair is slightly darker than the rest of the hair on my head. It blends in perfectly well but I was curious about it. Dr Lorenzo explained that this is because the hair is strong. The transplanted hair has a slight curl to it. I was informed that this is because the hair is new. As it matures it will resemble the hair on the rest of my scalp. Even if the hair remained curly it would not be an issue. The donor area appears as thick as before I had the procedure. Upon inspection, it looks as if no hair was actually taken. I wondered if the hair around this area would be thinner but I can’t detect any change. It seems almost like magic. Dr Lorenzo takes the approach of using transplanted hair sparingly. He’s keen to not exhaust the donor area, whilst maximising coverage. I appreciated his approach in this respect. I learned I have about 21,000 hairs (not grafts!) remaining in the donor area for any future work. Although I made an effort to tell as many people about my procedure as possible it has been quite fun to meet old acquaintances who didn’t know that I was getting an FUE procedure. In every case they look at me, with slight befuddlement, and say things like: “...you look younger” or “...there’s something different about you!” These comments are always positive and some even have expressed an interested in having a transplant themselves. When I look in the mirror now, I now see myself looking back. It's fantastic not to have to worry about my hair anymore. It’s almost easy to forget I ever had issues with it falling out. The days of hair-woe now seem long ago, and I have no fear of them returning. Do you ever wish you could turn back time knowing what you know now? Well, I feel like I am twenty years old again, with all the smarts of a thirty-five-year-old! It’s a great feeling! This is, by far, the best money I have ever spent. I see it as an investment in myself. Looking forward, I am keen to see how my hair matures. I am delighted that I now have hair that I can style (although I probably won’t be using hair straighteners as much this time!) Recently, I even got a bad haircut from a dodgy barber, which I now consider a high-quality problem! Overall, I am a supremely happy client and highly recommend Dr Lorenzo and his team. I have gone from having a receding hairline to having hair. The difference feels like night and day! The level of care and attention he showed throughout my procedure was exemplary. Both He and Grace have been on hand and available to help with questions after the procedure. Like many others, I believe he is the best hair surgeon in the world. I’m writing this review on my own accord and as a sheer expression of my contentedness. I hope this gives you an overview of working with Dr Lorenzo or any other FUE professional. These opinions are all my own, so please do your research! If you have any questions, please ask below! I’ll do my best to answer them. I will check back into this thread every few months over the course of the next year. -
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Hi, all. I haven’t posted here much since my last procedure in 2015, but happy to share an update with everyone about my latest surgery. As background, I had my first transplant with Dr. Robert Niedbalski in June 2012. I was a NW 2-3, and he transplanted 1,450 grafts via strip to form a lower, but still recessed, hairline. I wanted a flat hairline, so I had a subsequent procedure with Dr. Rahal in October 2015, when he transplanted 2,200 grafts, again via strip. The hairline design was great, but the right side grew in a little sparse. Nothing awful, and I could’ve gone without addressing it, but I wanted to go back to the well for a fuller hairline. I just turned 36, BTW. I've been on Avodart and Propecia for six years and essentially no longer lose hair--my loss is fully halted. I use Rogaine but discontinued before surgery per instructions. Links to thread about my earlier procedures are here: https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2858 So, last week I drove from Seattle down to Portland for a third procedure--this time with Steve Gable. I’ve known Dr. Gabel for about five years and have really looked forward to working with him. He’s a precise, thoughtful guy, and I knew he’d be a great choice to refine my results. I left Seattle at 3am to check in at Dr. G’s clinic at 6:30. His clinic just moved to a brand-new facility, and it’s gorgeous--two ORs, a lovely lobby, and overall just a great, clean, attractive space. We sat down and discussed hairline approach, and agreed that we weren’t going to lower the hairline. I didn’t need it, and lowering it even a few millimeters would mean that I’d need to get in again to spruce up the density, and I wanted to be done. (My hair is still very dense and I want the hairline to match, so I don’t want to get stuck in a loop of chasing density in an ever-lower hairline.) We agreed 1,000 more grafts across the hairline--and concentrated in the right side--would do the trick. The procedure was very smooth. Strip excision took about 30-45 minutes and I didn’t feel any pain. Dr. G excised part of my prior scar, which ran from just inside left ear to above my right ear. He didn’t need to run all the way from end-to-end on the scar. He closed the strip with staples, which I hadn’t had before; he thought they’d do a better job at holding the tension and has had good luck with them recently. Once the wound was closed, he did the incisions--nothing eventful, and nothing painful. I didn’t bother to watch TV, but just spent the time chatting with Dr. G and his techs. If you haven’t met him, he’s a really personable, chatty guy, which was engaging during surgery. I had a Valium before surgery but didn’t feel it much, which was fine; I’m not the anxious type and was perfectly relaxed during surgery. I seemed more comfortable than my previous surgeries, but that’s probably due in part to the fact that it was fewer grafts so the sit was shorter. When we got to placing grafts, I’d estimate that Dr. G placed about 50%. He places grafts in all his procedures, and I was his only patient that day, so there wasn’t any need for him to pop out and attend to someone else. If you haven’t gone through a transplant before, it’s really disconcerting when you feel like a surgeon disengages from the procedure once the incisions are made and just turns everything over to the techs. Dr. G was omnipresent and was in the room for virtually the whole procedure. That’s not the norm. Of my three procedures, this was the smoothest and easiest. That’s no knock on Niedbalski or Rahal, but a huge compliment to Dr. G and his staff. The post-op materials were first-rate and included a calendar specialized for my surgery date so I didn’t have to count post-surgery days. That’s a nice touch that I hadn’t seen before. The recipient area was also very clean--virtually no blood or scabbing. They carefully washed it the next day and showed me how to shampoo. Great post-op hand-holding all the way, and Dr. G responded to an email same-day later in the week. Pictures are below, and obviously there’s not much to report in terms of growth. My scabs are falling off, but the recipient area is hardly noticeable because although it was shaved, I’m combing my hair forward. Hard to cover up the staples, but they’ll be out in another week. I’m definitely experiencing a lot of tightness in my donor area given that it’s been excised three times, so I’m trying especially hard to keep my head tipped back to keep tension off the scar. I’m a little concerned about a widened scar given that it’s my third strip, but I’ll keep everyone posted as that progresses. Please fire away with questions/comments; I’ll be checking in every day. Thanks! When reviewing pics, please keep in mind that the after pictures are both immediately post-op and then the next day; my hair is wet in both. Remember that the transplanted area contained both native hair AND previously transplanted hair, so the density will be much, much higher than the number of grafts you can see. -
Have to make a choice in a few days
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A new update to my list: My choices are narrowed down to Dr. Pekiner and Dr. Demirsoy. Dr. Demirsoy suggests 3500-4000 grafts for front, top and crown area. He's using a 0.7-0.8 mm punch size micromotor and does the extraction and incisions himself. The implantation is done by nurses (that's okay). Dr. Pekiner has not reached me out yet. It could be awesome if Dr. Demirsoy would have done manual extraction over using a micro motor, as I have heard motor has more potential to damage the adjacent grafts. Is that true? -
Patient presented with a Norwood Class 4 pattern with the intent of restoring density to the frontal recession and crown region. He had undergone an initial FUE elsewhere that was not successful. Total of 773 grafts allocated to the vertex and 2573 grafts to the frontal third. *Manual motorized FUE * Prp/Acell *Propecia -
Hello everyone, I am a hair loss patient from China. After studying for a few months in the forum, I chose Dr. Kaan to transplant and agreed to transplant 3,000 units. 9.17 I arrived at Ankara, Turkey, and saw kaan. He hired a Chinese translator for me and it was free. However, Dr. Kaan checked my hair and thought that I was not suitable for hair transplant and refused to transplant for me. At that time, I was very depressed and could not accept the result. The doctor said that my pillow resources were not very good. However, I strongly urged that the transplant be continued. Dr. Kaan wanted to transplant 1000 units for me. After transplanting to 100 units, Dr. Kaan terminated the operation because my hair follicles were of poor quality. Finally, Dr. Kaan refunded my deposit. Thank you Dr. Kaan, he is a very responsible doctor. He didn't want to make my money. I came from far away China and knew that he is very famous. It is true, although I did not have surgery at the end, but the doctor I was very touched by the free transfer of 100 units for me. Now, I have accepted the result. I am a patient who is not suitable for hair transplant. My life has to continue. I will not have the illusion of hair growth in the future. I will accept my life. Finally, I chose to play in Turkey for a few days. The scenery in Turkey is very beautiful. Thank you, Dr. Kaan, and finally sent me to the airport for free. It can be said that Dr. Kanan saved me because if I chose another doctor, the result is doomed to be a failure. -
2342 ultra-refined FUs transplanted to recontour frontal frame and add internal density. 728 singles, 1569 doubles, 45 threes. PRP administered intraoperatively.
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In 1989 I was a college freshman with thin hair that was starting to fall out. Graduated in 1993 and had considerable hair loss. By 1994 I was almost done hair-wise, very traumatic for a young man who is just starting his life, I freaked. That winter, watching a late night informercial on HT's, I though I had the answer. After two consultations with the 'Dr.', I fell for the micro/mini graft, very small scar, full head of hair, etc from this Long Island Medical practice. No internet at the time and I didn’t even know plugs were a thing and as been repeated as I have recently read up on numerous message boards, “You trust a doctor and never would you think they could be so unethical.” This is much different thn a snake oil salesman selling a hairpiece. This is a doctor doing surgery that lasts a lifetime. As a young man I should have understood the supply and demand model and I still kick myself in the ass falling for the full head of hair BS. 3 Procedures winter and spring of 94. By fall I was obviously very unsatisfied. Unnatural small plug look with a few large ones, bad distribution, horrible donor strip scarring, etc, etc. My hair is kind of fine/thin so I feel it was not as bad as some I saw as I noticed more people with plugs (never really noticed them until after my ordeal started) but now I was stuck and stupidly went for one more ‘free’ procedure as I was told they just need to make it more dense.The next 4 years I got by and since my hair is fine/thin texture, under certain lighting, dark, sun, etc it just looked like a young man getting pretty bald. Under many other situations, angles, etc you could see the plugs, cobble-stoning, unnatural hairline, etc. I got by, met a nice girl (now my wife) who never really noticed until I opened up to her, etc, etc. Some days, and even to this day, people don’t notice. Other times in a conversation I could see eyes look at my hairline. Sometime when I am out I see, or just maybe imagine, people checking out my hair/hairline. Myself, as I wrote, I got by but was, and still, always self conscience.In 1998 I visited Dr. Bernstein (at the time he was with NHI in Ft Lee NJ) and felt he was very honest though understandably I lost all faith in the medical community, especially cosmetic medicine. He explained what he and Dr Rassman were doing (which now made more sense to me) and how he could try to camouflage. I can say that I think Dr. Bernstein used some of the best technique that 1998 technology provided and he tried to camouflage my pluggy look. I forgot how many grafts I received and the ones he added were the size he stated but my coverage, and at that point I was very realistic, was still less thn desirable. This is in no way a bash of Dr Bernstein as he never up-sold me, never promised a full head of hair, etc. He was ethical and honest with his graft size/hair per graft, no bumps from his grafts, and it was definitely an improvement though not what I thought it would be. I understood a full head of hair would never be in the cards for me but thought I would get more camouflage in my hairline and coverage. I’ve lived the most normal life I can since thn though I am always self conscious. So here I am today, 25+ years in this journey and things are changing. I have lost even more hair recently (crown area getting even larger) and I am graying. The contrast between my skin, gray hair and dark have given me a more pluggy look. Also, I don’t mind being bald but so is the case of a 48 year old compared to 23 year old staring out life. I actually think I pull off the very thin/very balding look ok and I do not even mind my gray hair. That said, I’d like to look more natural (or at least less pluggy) and maybe even fill in more spots to even out the thinness. My donor area seems kinda depleted so I am not sure how possible any of this is. I am looking at a few possibilities to just move forward being less self conscious as my life moves on. I have no problem with my scalp showing and just want a more natural appearance. I could care less if the plugs in my crown are removed/re-distributed to other areas as my crown will never be covered anyhow. Some things I’d like to accomplish if even possible or recommended. 1) Remove larger plugs in my crown area slice them into smaller grafts and redistribute them to areas of need to try to maybe balance out my thin appearance 2)Remove larger plugs in my hairline and a lil behind hairline dissect and re-distribute them to that same area or others depending what doc says. (Does plug excursion and re-distribution grow at a decent rate or is the return rate poor? What about scarring? Blood supply/flow to the head if plugs are removed and redistributed.)3) See how that goes and if I have any hair left to use in my donor area, just use that to even out some coverage for a thin or more natural appearance in areas of need. With FUE has the donor hair expanded to your sides?4) Fixing my donor scars if even possibleI do not know what is possible but I do know technology and techniques have changed since 1998. I also know, though many docs are very reputable I am very nervous having someone touch my scalp again. I have started reading message boards on HT repairs, articles, researching Dr’s etc. For you young bucks and older gents out there thinking of getting HT’s, you have great resources and you truly need to do your HW. I am shocked that there are still ‘doctors’ who will do bad work and destroy peoples lives. It is all really sad and sickening on so many levels. I live outside of Princeton NJ. Some of the Dr’s in my area that have popped on my radar in my short research are Dr. Bernstein, True and Dorin, Dr Carlos Wesley, Feller/Bloxham, . Anyone have any experience with their plug excursion and re-distribution? What other Dr’s should I put on my radar as I start my research? I am not against travel and have just started reading up on Dr. Cooley in NC, Dr. Lindsey in Va (against excursion), etc. Thn again, I have no clue and do not want to fall for some sales pitch again. Cost is also a factor though I will cross that bridge when it comes and make my decision. That said, who else should I look into? I’m sure I will have more questions but here we go with my first post. Thank you for reading and I look forward to answers and more discussion on this in this thread. Thank you in advance to any and all who read my journey and help answer any questions I've asked and will ask. -
You’ve been given some great names. I’ll add hasson and wong, Dr. Gabel, Dr. Mohebi, Dr. Bloxham is in NY so definitely worth a visit. Most definitely True&Dorin as well. If I’m not mistaken the place you went to in Long Island had a sanitation worker performing surgery- this is why our community is so important. If you have any questions feel free to pm me anytime. Glad you found us were here to help. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/hair-raising-tale-deceit-article-1.176678%3foutputType=amp
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Introduction: I’m a 25 YO male, suffering from hair-loss since around 20 years old, and so I have been on Propecia ever since; Propecia managed to considerably slow my hair-loss in the crown area, but less so in my temples. This is why I have decided that it’s time to undergo a hair transplant. I have researched countless clinics and doctors in Europe/UK. I have also requested consultation of many; the main concern from all the clinics was that my hairless is progressive and I will definitely bald some more in the future, and therefore, I needed to choose the best to have a solid plan in place to not look bald at any point. After researching extensively for a year, I was convinced to go with Dr Bijan Feriduni as he is; Properly licensed/accredited by all the relevant societies/qualifications. Has a vast amount of experience with countless successful cases, many of them more severe than mine. Despite being significantly more expensive than Istanbul, I found that the price difference was well worth the added quality and personalization from Dr. Feriduni. Bearing in mind that his pricing is still less expensive than known clinics in the UK, making his services fairly priced. The consultation I got from Dr Feriduni was personalized and make a lot of sense to me. Here are some pictures; Day 0: Consultation, transplant, and tricho-pigmentation This is both the consultation and transplantation day. I arrived at the clinic around 08:00 AM. I was greeted by lovely receptionists and escorted to my private room. Which had couches, a medical bed, drawers for storage, water etc… After signing the contract and wearing the ‘OR clothes’ provided by the clinic I headed to the doctor’s office. The doctor is very friendly, humble, listened to all my thoughts and ideas and shows true care; this made me much more at ease. He then proceeded by taking photos with his microscope for the donor count etc… and made a long term plan based on donor availability. I was happy with the hair line which more or less resembled my previous hair line before the hair-loss started. Here are some before photos during the consultation; In the OR my head was shaved to 0.9mm, which gave me a mini panic attack 😅, however the nervousness was very short lived as Dr Feriduni administered midazolam; a rapid sedative that made me feel at ease in less than 10 seconds! This picture was taking of my donor and crown right before the operation started. You can tell that my crown area has very thin hairs, but Dr Feriduni suggested to cover that with pigmentation rather than a transplant in order to see the progress of the hairloss allowing the most efficient use of the valuable donor area! The Anesthetic injections were the only uncomfortable part, I expected them to be much more painful, but they were actually not all that bad. After the injections you don’t feel any kind of pain nor discomfort during extraction and implementation. It’s worthwhile to mention that extraction was done by the experienced assistants of the doctors, and so was the implementation (apart from the hairline which was done by Dr Feriduni). The doctor also made the incision opening before the extraction himself, to reduce the time that extracted grafts stay out of my body. In general, the operation was comfortable and I was watching friend on Netflix the entire time! The only uncomfortable part was extraction, as you’d have to lay down on your face for a while on a massage type bed, and you face is bound to get numb after a while. However, there wasn’t any actual pain from the extraction process itself. I then proceeded to have a BLT sandwich in my clinic room, before heading to the OR again for the trichopigmentation done by Dr. Yasmine Feriduni (BIjan’s wife), she is also very friendly and lively! The trichopigmentation was not painful at all, especially for the fact that my scalp was somewhat numb from the operation. Trichopigmentation should immediate density effect when compared to my pre photo. Here are some immediate post-op photos, notice the denser crown area from the pigmentation (also shown in the microscope) ! After this I went home, had dinner, and took Ibuprofen 600mg (pain killer) along with promethazine (which I bought with me; an antihistamine which helps me sleep and would reduce itchiness later on). I must say that the hardest part was sleeping with a sticky head on the neck pillow as oppose to my usually sleep on my stomach face buried in the pillow! I was given a saline hair spray (to use every 30 minutes) along with a foaming shampoo, serums, oil, and vitamins. Also I do recommend taking the Feriduni discount for the nearby Hassotel, which had great breakfast, and a spacious room and private terrace (if you choose the penthouse suit). Day 3: Second trichopigmentation session Its worthwhile to mention that I got a hair wash on day 2 in the clinic, and again at day 3, in which I also got another pigmentation session, this time without any anasthesia, but it wasn't actually painful but rather a bit uncomfortable. Some day 3 pictures; At this day I had no pain whatsoever. I also opted from using the neck pillow and instead made a "pillow castle" in a way which would prevent from rolling over or touching the grafts against the pillow while maintaining a 45 degree angle. At evening I went to a delicious sushi Resturant which is 5 minutes away from the hotel In which I enjoyed sushi along with ASAHI Japanese beer (Doctor allowed me a couple of beers ) !- 4 replies
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