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  1. BACKGROUND I'm in my late 20s and started receding around the age of 18. my scalp is very light compared to my forehead. my natural hairline sat right on the line where the pigmentation changed color. (Pictured) I stalked these forums regularly but never posted until recently. I'm Latino with African/Italian ancestry, my hair grows straight for about .5cm before it curls over. I'm located in NY Moving Forward I consulted online or in person with various doctors that were recommended on these forums the likes of (Arocha, Bloxham, Diep, Vories, and Frank). after many Q&As with each I felt most comfortable with Dr.Arocha in Texas. I flew to TX on Thursday met him and the staff that same day we went over my loss and future strategies as well as design. He recommended a higher hairline than the one I received based on the rule of thirds which I understood but felt it wasn't near my original hairline. we agreed on a lower line (pictured) The Big Day After medications and local numbing was administer a strip was taken from back of the head – 3140 grafts were harvested. Dr. Arocha mentioned he was aiming for 40 grafts cm2 coverage and that my hair was straight at short length. He did the strip removal, stitching and incisions at recipient site. Technicians did the graft cutting and placement. The procedure was done on FRIDAY I was very pleased with the service. everyone from medical staff and administration were very welcoming and ensure I had an excellent operation. it was to such extent that Dr. Arocha came in on Saturday to review the post op and ensure things were okay. he even gave me a tour of the city in his personal car. he even had one staff member come in on Saturday - the same day as her son's birthday just in case some work was needed (thanks Michelle). On Sunday (Father’s Day) he called to check up on me. Again, I’m extremely pleased with the service. Has First week post op I had swelling which is normal which has gone down considerably between days 4-7. I have followed the post op instructions to the T. I have used the shampoo and bacitracin provided by the Doctor as per instructed no harsh touching and trickle water. I feel like the treatment and operation were world class and I’m inclined to use the doctor again Pictures posted include my original hairline, my baldness pattern, hairline design and post op results at day 5/6. Please contact for any questions I will maintain this thread with my progression. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT WITH QUESTIONS
  2. Hi All, I had a 2,500 graft procedure with Dr. Vories focused on my hairline, midscalp and FUT scar concealment on September 18th, 2015. You can follow my progress in the thread linked in my signature below. I decided to create another thread specifically for my 1 year results. Since my procedure, I have been on .25/mg Propecia every other day (every day since last month) and Kirkland Minoxidil at least 1x/day. My pictures below are in the following order: 1) Pre-op, before any transplants with Dr. True and Dr. Vories (first 3) 2) Pre-op pics before Dr. Vories and 3 years after Dr. True (next 3) 3) Immediate post-op with Dr. Vories (next 3) 4) 1 year progress (last 6) I notice a little inconsistency in the density in my hairline (left side denser than right) but not too noticeable. Overall, I am happy. Please provide your feedback, thanks!
  3. Hello All, My FUE procedure was completed 4-5 November 2015. 4000 grafts total, mostly two counts: about 8000 hairs total. I am happy with the hairline as I am 35 and frankly more is there now than ever before. I think I started losing my hair when I was like 8, lol. My caliber is of medium density. The only real pain during the procedure was when getting injections at the base of the neck, the rest was a cake walk. I traveled from Lexington, KY to Charlotte Douglass International via air and stayed at the Comfort Inn. The hotel was quiet pleasant and had been newly remodeled. Dr. Vories and his staff are true professionals and friendly as all get out. The Doc did all of the extractions and implanting. During all of the implanting I got to watch Guardians of the Galaxy which rocked as I had never seen it before. Today the pain is about the same, mostly coming from the donor area. My face resembles a puffer fish as the saline and topical fluids are absorbing into my head. I am having a bit of a itching reaction to the pain meds so I am going to start taking some Benadryl per the doc. I have been sleeping at a 45 degree angle nightly using one of those traveling neck pillows. I also tie my hands up while sleeping as to not inadvertently scratch out any grafts. So far I am extremely happy with it all. Feedback is welcome. Pre and post-operative pics enclosed. :cool:
  4. Over 3 years since my 2500 graft transplant with Dr. Vories. Thought I would share a hair wet hair comparison. Apologies for the different variables such as hair length and lighting. Will post more pics if anyone is interested.
  5. Hi folks. So I'm finally ready to take the plunge, live in Toronto Canada and have narrowed my short list to Dr. Nadimi in Chicago (of Konior fame), H&W in Vancouver, and Dr. Rahal in Toronto. My consults with each of them went like this: Dr. Nadimi: FaceTime consult Surgery in Chicago 1500-2000 FUE grafts recommended, could be all the way up to 2400 Shes not entirely sure she can get 2400 FUE grafts from my donor area based on photos and not-so-great FaceTime connection She will perform all extracts and most implants, will be there the entire time Does not feel comfortable doing more than 2400 FUE in a session due to scalp blood supply and time that grafts need to be implanted by (~8 hours) Uses latest tech, hybrid dull/sharp punch, learned everything from Konoir Potentially a discount for future hair transplants No official growth guarantee Recommended to stay in Chicago for a week to get looked after by the clinic Seems like a high end operation Dr. Rahal (Aaron and Tara did the consult): Aaron started the consult and was decent, called in Tara in the middle who blew me away In person consult Surgery in Toronto Measured a total of approx 5000 FUE grafts available in donor area 2500-3000 FUE grafts recommended for 1st transplant of hairline, will likely need another 2500 down the road for crown and touch up, aiming for 45-50 follicles per square cm Estimated Norwood 4-5 in the future No issues doing 3000 FUE in 8 hours, they have done 4200 in a day before Also uses latest hybrid dull/sharp punch tech Rahal and Mike will perform the extractions, Rahal will make the incisions and someone other than Rahal will implant Growth guarantee and free touch ups (not sure what the fine print is around this) Discounted graft rate for future transplants Patient care team access for a year Suggested pairing with PRP Hasson & Wong (James did the consult): In person consult Surgery in Vancouver 3000 FUE grafts recommended, possibly have 5000-6000 FUE grafts in donor area 3000 FUE done over two days, they limit surgeries to about 2000 FUE per day Recommended Dr. Hasson due to hairline objective (Wong more for crown work) Each doctor has performed 10,000+ surgeries Also uses latest hybrid dull/sharp punch tech, 0.85 punch size Techs do the extraction and implantation, Hasson performs incisions Estimated Norwood 5A future recession Informal growth guarantee and free touch ups Discounted future transplants For out of town patients they offer free lodging (3 days), taxis to and from the airport, and a partial flight credit I have to say, Rahal's team did the best sell job and I'm leaning that way.. but is 2500-3000 FUE too ambitious for one day? Am I risking hairs due to them rushing? I don't want to bias your opinion any more than that, but based on your experience on this forum, knowledge, what was said above and my pictures, what would you do? Any other insight or commentary you could offer before I make the plunge? Are there any other GTA doctors that I must absolutely check out? Hoping to finalize a decision in the next few days. REALLY appreciate all the help and support you guys can give. Thanks.
  6. Hi, my name is Zac and while I'm waiting (very patiently) for my hair to grow I figured I'd take the time to share my results. Thanks to all who have shared their results and stories in the past, as they've helped me a great deal in preparing for the process. I just turned 40 years old in July, about a month after my surgery with Dr. Vories in South Carolina. It took me a few years to decide to have the transplant, but the only thing really holding me back was the cost. I felt Dr. Vories was fairly priced in comparison to most I'd researched, and his results seemed to be on par with the best I'd seen, if not better. I made an appointment for a 2000 graft session to fill in my crown for June of 2017. My experience at his clinic was great. Everyone there made me feel comfortable. They fed me lunch and we watched Caddyshack (my choice..they have hundreds on Apple TV) for the portion of the surgery where I was upright. For the extraction I laid on my stomach with my head facing right for 500, then left for 500 more, then with my head straight down in a massage style pillow for the final 1000. We ended up with 2004 grafts extracted. The only painful part was the numbing, which is a decent needle prick over and over in the area he's working. I sat upright (but leaning back a bit) for the rest of the surgery. Again, the pain was fairly mild and only during the numbing portion. He started to implant a few a little soon on one spot, and I simply told him I could feel it so he numbed me up a little more and on we went. So far I feel good about the decision and the process. I have pics I'll attach below from before, 1 day, 3 days, 2 weeks, 1 month, and 2 months. The 3 month mark will come in mid-September, at which point I'll continue to load new pics monthly. Thanks again to all who operate this website and all who have contributed to the forum.
  7. Ok, here are the "final" pics. My hair is a bit linger now, and this is straight out of the shower with dry hair. As you can see, it's still certainly noticeably thinner than the rest of my head. I explained my thoughts on this in the post above. I believe I have one more follow up with Dr. Vories this December, so I'll see what he has to say. After my June meeting with him, he thought I had a "long way to go," but I frankly don't see a lot of change between now and then. I'll post my "10 month" compare, as well. Im interested in everyone's honest opinion of my results. Thanks!
  8. Hey, everyone! Sorry for the time off. It's now been almost a year and a half since my surgery. I'll be sure to get some pics tomorrow after I get home from work and get them posted. I'm generally happy with the result, but it's still thin up towards the front of the crown. It's easy to make it look good with some "plumping powder" and maybe some of the "fibers" they sell out there. So, for the times I usually would have found a way to wear a hat, I'm comfortable not wearing one, now. In the future, if money allows, I think I'd go back and get more done just to have it look more full on its own. While Dr. Vories never said he didn't think 2000 grafts would fill my crown, I was always leery that 2000 wouldn't completely cover the entire area to the point where I would LOVE my result. Anyway, I'll get the pics up tomorrow. Thanks for being patient!
  9. cosmicray I had a transplant with Dr. Vories the same month as you. I'd love to compare notes about out results. Mine was 3000 grafts. 2000 in the crown and 1000 running to the "forelock".
  10. This 65 year old man over the past 4 years has had three hair transplant sessions. He has an advanced Norwood Class VI or a borderline Class VII pattern of hair loss with an enormous bald area in need of coverage. Overall, he has received 4801 FU grafts and 831 MFU grafts (4-5 hairs each) for a total of 12,067 hairs. Although it is impossible to totally fill in this size of a vertex (crown), I sought to plant "light coverage" through out that area, with the hairs directed in a natural "whorl" arrangement, spinning off of the centerpoint. He has enough strong hair up on top and toward the front, that he is able to style his hair so that many of them are brought backwards over a large part of the crown.The lighting of one of the photos is a little too bright to make out all the detail of the FU's placed back there. He uses a small amount of Toppik also in his styling regimen and says that, when he is done, it looks like a full head of hair from all angles. He plans one more session of around 1500 FU's, which we will mainly place in the crown area in back. Mike Beehner, M.D.
  11. Hello all, Been a lurker to not just this forum, but a few others (including reddit) and decided to join this one and create a post. So a little about me (please bare with me lol). I'm 33 now, Back when I was about 23, I believe, the girl who used to cut my hair pointed out that I had a thin spot on my crown. The reason she pointed it out, besides the fact that she was a family friend, is that she always knew me to have very thick, very coarse hair. I still sorta do. I hopped on rogaine not too far after that, and then upped the ante by going on finasteride, or propecia (it's now generic finasteride that i'm taking currently), when I noticed that my hairline was beginning to weaken, which was around 26-27. Was only on it for maybe 3 years, when I got off of it (was expensive before i found out i could get generic for a fraction of the cost). All in all, I've been back on it for well over a year now. Despite my proactivity in my fight back for hairloss, I'm slowly losing the battle and am looking to buy time. I've been exploring and researching hair transplants for a few years now. Prob since 2015. I've seen some absolute works of art, I've also seen the absolute worst surgeries imaginable, but what my research has concluded is that this is something you absolutely MUST do your homework on, and that you really only want the best in the field to do the work. It wasn't until recently that I decided to take it a step further and get consultations, and I've limited it to just right now. Hasson and Wong, and Chicago Hair Institute. I've had 2 online consults with hasson and wong, with a guy named mike over a span of 2 years, the last one being last week. Been interested in Dr. Hasson for as long as I"ve been doing research. Both consults, not much has changed in the recommendation of 3000 grafts to fill in hairline and crown, but I never pulled the trigger because well, i never thought it would get worse over the long term and my loss has pretty much been stable (and yknow, MONEY). But as of recently, i was picked up by reputable talent agency on the east coast, and given the unfortunate circumstances of vanity and the nature of the industry, i've been extremely critical of my friends on the top of my head. After doing more research, and discovering the talents of Dr. Konior, (as well as the lack of availability from what I've seen in these forums), I decided to send in my photos to the Chicago Hair institute. There was a page on the site that was for out of town patients, and they care about discreetness and a timeline as to when i could wear a hat and go home, and that spoke volumes to me as I'd really like to be as discreet as humanly possible. I was contacted by Dr. Nadimi, who gave me essentially the same graft estimate that H&W gave me, and I'll be booking a facetime consultation with her coming up. I'll show photos of my situation as well, but I'm curious as to anyone's dealings with Dr. Nadimi. From what I've experienced and understand so far, is that she's worked under and been trained by Konior, and that she's all business. And that her quality of work is good, but there's not much info on her results, in the regard that there are volumes on Koniors work. Right now, she's the front runner given her locale (my uncle lives 8 miles from the clinic, so i can ask to stay with him), and that she also emailed me directly. That truly impressed me TBH. Konior is booked over a year out, and i want to get this done sooner rather than later. Any and all info would be great!
  12. This is a thread documenting my recent 2612 graft FUE procedure with Dr. Rahal. I'm a NW3A in his late twenties/early thirties who has battled hair loss over the past few years. I've done the big three more or less consistently over the past few years and finally bit the bullet on doing a procedure after some bad experiences at work and with women that convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt how important having hair really is. After doing some research last year I finally settled for Rahal. The Procedure As the thread says, I did a 2612 FUE procedure, which yielded a total of 5336 hairs. The total graft count was as follows: 1 unit: 547 2 unit: 1426 3 unit: 619 4 unit: 20 His head nurse technician Mike did all the extractions with a motorized extraction tool. Rahal did the incisions, and finally implanting was carried out by Mike and another experienced technician (6-7 years of experience). Two additional staff members assisted. The procedure lasted for 12 hours from 06:00 until 18:00. During the extractions I bled a bit more than usual, otherwise the procedure went smoothly. The clinic as most of you know does multiple procedures; another FUE procedure was going on the same day, for crown work. I stayed awake for the majority of the procedure and opted not to watch a movie as I wanted the staff to remain focused while they were working on me. My impression during the procedure was that they took their work seriously. I have some minor observations that I'll share based on the final outcome, but nothing serious. Worth noting here is that they were using a tool that had been introduced during the past 2.5-3 months, called an "implanter". This is essentially a plastic tube that reduces damage to the graft during implantation and allows for denser packs. According to the doctor this is part of a major shift across the industry. Apparently Lorenzo, Bernstein, Erdogan and other famous docs are already using this, though since adoption is somewhat recent only Erdogan has final results on file. During my consultation I became quite concerned about this as it introduced an additional element of uncertainty to the process. However, the doctor stressed to me that Erdogan's results had been amazing and that the introduction of the implanters would reduce risk rather than increase it. Pre-op/Post-op and Patient Experience As detailed by many others over the years here, this is a clinic that takes patient care and post-operative follow-up very seriously. A lot of thought has been put into the "journey" that you take from showing the first interest to submitting the final follow-up photos. I won't spend too much time on this here, just state for the record that I have had a uniformly positive experience throughout. I really like the staff and they have come across in a sympathetic manner in all the interactions I've had with them. The doctor himself is a good man. He has rock solid ethics. While there I met a NW3 patient who to my semi-trained eye would seem like a good candidate, but was ultimately turned down. For this patient there was a risk of donor depletion, and his final pattern of loss would make the transplanted hairline seem odd if the loss progressed. Another, younger patient was turned down during my time there as well, due to his loss being too minor. Some reviews I saw characterized him as seeming "rushed", however I have had the complete opposite impression. He has been very generous with his time to address my various concerns and my myriad of different questions about post-op care and the procedure itself. Personality-wise he does have a bit of swagger to him, however in a way that I associate with high performers from work. Full marks for him and his team in this respect. My concerns The industry is "caveat emptor", and I take some blame for poor research in selecting my surgeon. My intention with choosing Dr. Rahal was to derisk my procedure, which I thought I had done by going for a clinic with a good reputation online. I did not want to go to Turkey, and had been somewhat underwhelmed by the results of the euro surgeons that were available in a reasonable timeframe. Rahal is routinely mentioned in top #3 lists across the internet and I also spoke with a former patient of his that I trust, and got his assurances that a large FUE session would not be a problem. I dodged most of the obvious bullets, like ARTAS, newbie techs, dense packed Armani hairlines, cheapo third-world surgeons and fallen greats. However, I overlooked the negative experiences of forum member Sean (which I believe was due to a combination of physiology and inexperienced staff members working on him during his initial procedure) and SugarHighs (combination of factors but probably physiology seeing as the hairs grew and then shed), and some of the other rather subpar FUE results floating around here. Ignoring the fact that Sean's procedure was back in 2011, most of the results you can find are rather old and there isn't really a plethora of recent complete hairline FUE results similar to what I was going for. Some of the patient results posted here evidence poor growth, though there is clearly a trend of better performance over the years. Mike told me that they generally don't get poor growth, time will tell but he seemed confident when he said it. I should mention that the most recent results you can find here, those of zx_toth and ftbpicks, both had very good growth and final results. I guess I've attached some new meaning to "doing your research". It really means going the extra mile; scouring the web for results and first-hand accounts, and compiling everything into a timeline. Contact former patients that stopped updating. Get everything in writing before you go in, like how many techs will be working on you, what tools will be used and the doctor's involvement in the surgery. No matter how this procedure turns out, I'll be much more careful with my next one, that's for sure. The road ahead: The way I see it, I'm taking one for the team here, essentially. If the results turn out great then that should help assuage anyone who's apprehensive about doing a larger FUE procedure with this doctor. As I said, the patient experience is top notch and I'd recommend anyone that can handle a FUT scar to go with Rahal. Attached are some pre-op, post-op day 1, and day 11 pictures. I'll get some higher res pictures soon so I'll upload those as soon as possible. However, having browsed a few of these threads over the years I know most people don't care too much about the post-op pictures, the final results are what matter. I'm committing to semi-regular updates until the 12 month mark. Other recent FUE patients of Dr. Rahal are welcome to post here, especially those that are far enough out from the procedure to see how it turned out.
  13. brickellmoto

    3 years in the making...

    thank you. Dr. Nadimi specified 1500-2000 for high density frontal hairline restoration, and then about 1500 for the crown. i'm not sure how much further my hair loss will continue tbh. Mike from Hasson and Wong said its hard to tell what i am on the norwood scale, but it's on the low side i believe. But a 3000-3500 graft procedure i can live with ideally. I'm not sure how that will translate to reality tho.
  14. PupDaddy

    Foreceps vs. Implanter

    We should make a distinction between (a) implanter tools that both cut the recipient site and implant the graft into that site, versus (b) implanter tools for inserting grafts into recipient sites that have already been made using a custom cut blade or needle. The critical distinction is that Category A tools are used by the surgeon (or technician at some clinics) to simultaneously make a recipient incision and plunge a graft into it, whereas Category B tools are used by technicians only to seat grants into recipient sites that the surgeon has already made. Category A tools include Choi and Lions type pens, as used by Lorenzo, Vories, and others. Category B tools include Erdogan's KEEP tool and Yaman's implantation tool. Category B tools essentially hold the walls of the pre-made recipient site open and form a channel for grafts to be fed through. Forceps are used in conjunction with the KEEP tool (a Category B tool), but only after the graft has been loaded through the side of the tool’s hollow tube using a sort of swiping-rotational movement off the back of the hand and only to then finish seating the graft into the recipient site. Yaman's implantation tool, also a Category B tool, is similar. It looks like a Category A implanter pen but the point of the hollow needle is blunted and isn’t used to cut a recipient site. Instead of using forceps to guide the graft the remaining way down the hollow metal tube into the recipient site, the technician uses the tool’s plunger to perform this task. Both these tools purport to reduce trauma to grafts that can result from gripping them at the "meat" between forceps and "cramming" them into tiny recipient sites--trauma that can be exacerbated by fatigue and by recipient sites starting to close up after some time. Some ht docs have employed a combination of Category A and B tools for FUE transplants, favoring blade or needle-made recipient sites for hairline work that are then filled using Category B tools (e.g. KEEP, Yaman) and using Category A tools to both make recipient sites and seat grafts behind the hairline zone. MY SUBJECTIVE, PERSONAL VIEW: I strongly favor ht surgeons and their teams using Category B type tools to reduce graft trauma during the implantation process. I am solidly against the use of Category A type tools for hairline and temple work. Based on viewing hundreds if not thousands of photos and videos, I don't see the consistent cosmetic refinement of hairline work and frontal temple work performed by the top surgeons using Category A type implanter pens (yes, I include Dr. Lorenzo and his spawn) that is achieved by top surgeons who make recipient sites using custom blades or needles. I personally think that graft survival and growth rates of FUE will be significantly enhanced, as will their consistency, by the widespread adoption of Category B implantation tools in the hands of well-trained technicians, everything else being equal. Excellent topic, Squidward! I hope you'll forgive my pontification.
  15. JohnCasper

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    You are correct, African American hair can be a bit more challenging but the results can be excellent as well. I can certainly relate to you NOT wanting that long linear scar from strip surgery. Dr. Vories does these fairly often on African Americans and can meet with you remotely for a consultation via web cam (WebMD). You are correct, his pricing is exceptional at $4-5 per graft. Best of luck to you.
  16. I always advise people to choose the doctor they’re most comfortable with but I know the cost must be a factor as well. You don’t mention the cost per graft for Drs. Erdogan and Acar. I know there can be a wide range in cost per graft. Dr. Vories receives $4-5 per graft depending on the number. Hope you can share with us the rates you received.
  17. Hey everyone- Long time poster and member here in the forums! It's been a while since I've been on, as I've mainly just been enjoying life :-) I recently went back to Ottawa for my second round of FUT with doctor Rahal. My first procedure was done in 2012, where I had just over 4700 grafts FUT. In 2015, I went back to Dr. Rahal to have 2500 grafts done FUE, however, for some reason unknown to me...Dr Rahal said that my grafts were not viable via FUE (something about the bulbs kept disintegrating during extraction) and that we would have to stop the procedure. I was obviously bummed given that I spent all that money to get back in the chair, only to find out that only 45 grafts were viable and that we'd have to instead do another strip procedure if I wanted another transplant. Fast forward to today, and I am now 7 days post transplant number 2! I'm gonna keep this post brief, as there isn't much to report that was different than my first procedure. In terms of pain, this round of FUT seemed WAY worse than the first. I just couldn't get comfortable during the procedure, and it took significantly more anesthetic to get me comfortable and numb. Post op, I had significantly more pain and discomfort, however I also knew what to expect after my first procedure. I stayed well ahead of the pain this time around, and felt like I'm out of the roughest phase of the healing process. General swelling was less than the first time, although I chalk it up to having half of the grafts as I did during my first procedure. I also elected to pay the extra $850 Canadian to have the PRP injections to supposedly help with healing post-op...but I'm definitely not convinced that the expense was worth it. Redness and overall discomfort was not improved this time around as suggested it likely would be with the treatment....and the cost is ridiculoulsy high given that a vial of two of your own blood is centrifuged and injected. Seems like the treatment should be 1/3 of the cost....but I elected to have it done, so I have to live with my decision. As always, my impression of the Rahal clinic is still top notch. Great crew and friendly staff. My only negative about the experience (other than the high price of the PRP) is that the time spent with Dr. Rahal seemed way less than my first procedure. It might just be that it's been a long time since I've been in the surgery center, but it seems that Dr. Rahal did the majority of my grafts implants my first procedure....and this time his techs did all the trabsplanting. Makes me slightly nervous that the grafts won't yield as well, but I have to trust that the techs are probably very well trained and that the overall result was still managed/supervised by Dr Rahal. I am putting my faith in the Rahal results that are typical from a visit to Ottawa, and am confident that my results will still turn out great. Overall, I am happy to be done with this round; and looking forward to seeing results in the upcoming months. As you can see from the photos below, I am about right where I should be for 7 days post op. I get my sutures out on Saturday, and remember how much of a difference that makes in terms of comfort. Counting down the days. The grafts were places in the mid scalp and frontal third to fill in some density overall.....no more grafts in the crown. Unfortunately, I have come to the realization that I don't have enough grafts left to completely fill in the crown area, so I focused on density in my hair line and will deal with wherever bald spot in my crown the future holds. Also looking at SMP in the future to help with the appearance of density. I'll wait at least 12 months post op from this procedure to see where I stand before I do any other modifications to my hair. Anyway, I'm glad to be back on these forums and tracking my (and all of your) hair restoration results! This is like my second family here, and I'm glad to be back amongst the community. Best, Mike
  18. Everyone who responded is correct. Do your homework on this website and choose the doctor you’re most comfortable with. Contact several doctors and schedule a consultation if possible. I did a web/cam video consultation early on with Dr. Vories. I’ve had two surgeries at his clinic and he does all of the extractions/incisions/and placement of all grafts himself at $4-5 dollars per graft depending on the number you receive. Best of luck. Take your time and study this website and view lots of before/after photos.
  19. I'm considering Dr. Cooley (North Carolina) and Dr. Vories (South Carolina) for a FUE procedure. Both doctors seem like control-freaks as far as doing most of the work and not having techs do it - this is of course fine with me How many grafts do you guys think I will need to fill in the frontal and crown? Dr. Cooley estimated 2500-3000 (suggesting 2000-2500 frontal and 500 crown) Dr. Vories estimated 3500-4000 (suggesting 2000-2500 frontal and 1500 crown) Of note, both clinics said my hair does not currently look natural at all, which is disappointing. I suppose they could just be trying to sell me a H.T. but I like to think they are both busy enough and have such solid reps that they would only give their truthful opinion. My right side is more sparse than the left.
  20. I'm looking for a great transplant Dr. that can help restoring temple points, as I've learned that this is a tricky area for lots of surgeons. My two main options are Dr. Vories and Dr. Nader because they are within my budget, but I'm open to hearing other suggestions. If anyone has experience with these two doctors and their results restoring temple points, please share
  21. Recent photo from above of this 68 y/o patient, plus rear vertex photos from before any HT's, 3 years later (light blue backdrop), and recent photo from same view (light green backdrop). Mike Beehner, M.D.
  22. JohnCasper

    FUE harvesting

    Here’s a photo of my donor area about two years after my first surgery. I’ve posted this picture many times but it still seems relavant here. About 1,750 grafts were taken from this area with a .08mm punch. All the grafts were removed by Dr. Vories and placed by him. The scaring is so small it is just not discernible especially with a little hair growth. This is why I chose FUE vs. FUT.
  23. Hello, my name is Chris, I am 30 years old and have frontal hair loss (thinning) NW3. This is my experience so far with consultations and if I offend any doctors, or expose anything, I am sorry. I am also unwilling to go overseas for a FUE transplant, its surgery, I would feel uncomfortable doing that. I take .5 mg of finastride a day as well as rogaine foam 2x a day. I like to wear my hair short on the sides and back and long on top. I would prefer FUE as I believe it's the most modern advanced type of hair surgery but the difference in before and after pictures for FUE versus FUT sort of concerns me. FUT always looks much better and the hair porn is real. I want to believe FUE can get me those results without the invasive cutting of the back of my head, so I have decided to go for FUE. Now to the tough part. Choosing my Doctor. Konior Pros - Post Op pictures are the best I have ever seen, clean. - Communication top notch right from Dr. - Does all extractions and plants all the graphs with no technician - Best word of mouth reviews on the forums - Manual Punch - Perfectionist - 1 patient per day Cons - 1 Year wait list, and you need to pay $1000 upfront non refundable. - Expensive! Probably $10,000 more for 1800-2100 graphs than any other doctor on this list besides diep. Nearly $10 per graph. - No travel aid - Barely any before and after FUE pictures. It is a little concerning how few examples there really is, and this has been a complaint for years. - Hairlines can look a little underwhelming compared to Rahal, and Diep's results but who knows if those are exceptional results cherry picked from hundreds of cases. Rahal Pros - Cost. With Canadian exchange rate and his deals all the time, You can sometimes get 2500 graphs for $5 a graph. - His successful hairlines look amazing, movie star hair porn. - Travel Aid - Growth guaranteed, tries to fix all none growth cases. (Could also be a con cause our donor areas are precious and it leads to believe efficiency over quality in my opinion) - Can get a quick surgery day, month or 2 wait. Cons - Motorized trumpet punch - Uses a technician for extractions. Not very hands on. - Very salesman like emails from staff. Kind of a turnoff. If you wait the price seems to drop. - Rahal never personally emails you. - Tried to divert me to LA hair Clinic without even telling me, I had to ask who was going to do the surgery 4 emails into the conversation. They use rahals name but Dr Tahsini does the extractions., it’s like a referral system that seems sketchy. - Some of the worst overharvesting pictures I have seen on a few cases, also some cases that had zero growth, or hairs that never grew back. - Post Op pictures look pretty messy. - Multiple patients per day Vories (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Cheap! $4 a graph, can get almost 3 FUE surgeries for the price of 1 of Koniors. - Results on website look good. - Post op pictures don't look too bad. - Learned from best overseas. Cons - Not many good word of mouth reviews but no bad result posts like Rahal. - Some underwhelming cases, diffuse look. Diep (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Good density - Does extractions himself Cons - Hairline design not my favorite (zig zag) - Post Op pictures a little messy with larger holes Hason/Wong (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Hairlines look amazing - They have learned from the best overseas - Recent FUE Results show they can do FUE as good as their FUT - Last to perform FUE but they said they were waiting to perfect it before offering. Cons - Technicians used for extractions Any advice would be much appreciated, I would like to stay under $20,000 for the little loss I have in front, but I want density. What would you do?
  24. JohnCasper

    Failed FUE transplant

    Find the doctor you’re most comfortable with. You’re investing a lot of money into a transplant so don’t limit yourself to a doctor near your home. A $350 plane ticket is not a lot of money if you can travel to a doctor who performs all the extraction and insertions and has years of experience doing exclusive FUE procedures. I know Dr. Vories (and others) offer a web-MD consultation online. You might want to consider that.
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