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  1. I had a first procedure that was unsatisfactory 18 months ago with ARTAS robot by another surgeon so I decided to try again with koray Erdogan. I attached 2 pics of me before surgery with dry hair and 3 with wet hair. I got 2600 grafts today all in the frontal and temporal areas and tomorrow it's supposed to be 2400 in the crown. I have also attached a couple pics of my first day post oo.
  2. I kept hearing that he is the best in Turkey and even a friend who had fue with Cinik last year said that everyone talks about Erdogan. When I made my account here a few days ago I was certain Id go with either Erdogan OR hlc Ankara but from the posts Ive read here Erdogan is not recommended. What's changed? Did he get famous and the quality of work went to shit?
  3. Hello everybody. I just wanted to share my recent FUE hair transplant experience at ASMED clinic, since this forum helped me a lot in choosing the clinic and to know what could be expected from hair transplant surgeries. To be honest, i were little bit worried about some of the latest result that has been shared by some of ASMED patient, but eventually i made my decision and hopefully i picked the right one. I will try to summarize the whole experience as a mush as possible, since most of other asmed patients already described the whole process in an excellent way, and believe me all of what they mentioned regarding the services, such as accommodations, transfers, and postoperative care all were right and really exceeded my expectations. The online consultation: Based on the photos i have send to asmed website, they responded to me that i needed around 5000-5500 grafts and the total payment will be between 12500-13750 euros (2.5 euros/graft). So i transferred 4000 euros through my bank account (the maximum possible amount of transfer), while holding the remaining in cash. Day of arrival 07/08/2019: I arrived to Istanbul on Wednesday before 10 am, according to the email that was sent to me by asmed, mentioning that i need to be in Istanbul the day before surgery before 10 am, in order to give them enough time for the presurgical tests and consultation. My coordinator was Suzana, and i was extremely lucky to be assigned with her, since she was a very nice person, very informative, and taking care about all of what you need either before or after the surgery. Asmed driver was awaiting me in the airport with a sign holding my name, and they were very serious regarding this matter, since you are traveling with this amount of huge cash money, thats why they provided me with a list of photos for asmed drivers, in order to be able to recognize him once i arrived. I choosed to stay at asmed suite for the days of the surgery, and i reserved by my own an extra 5 nights following the surgery at radisson blue asia hotel, just to have enough time for healing before traveling back home, and to have my hair wash at the clinic the first week following the surgery. 2 hours after arriving to asmed, suzana took me for the blood test, followed by meeting with dr.koray who drew the hair line and estimate the amount of total donor capacity. I were not convinced in the beginning regarding the hair line, since it looks to be conservative as what he said, but he mentioned that my hair loss would continue in the future, and it will be unnatural if he made it lower than this level. Then they shaved my head, which was totally unfamiliar to me, since it was my first time shaving my head, and i can tell you that i didnt like the shape of my head at all, and i will do whatever it takes to avoid getting bold at the end. Again at the end dr.koray together with his staff refine the hair line after shaving. Finally my scalp was scanned and analyzed by the Kebot system for 15 minutes. DAY 1 SURGERY 08/08/2019 I had my breakfast around 6:30 am, i were little bit nervous, and thats why they gave me Xanax pill in order to make me relax before the surgery, and it really helped. They shaved my head again, then the surgery started around 7:30. I was prepared before going into the process by making my own research, and it was almost like what i expected. Pain during the local anasthetic injections, while other part of the surgery was painless, especially with the IV drug the Dr.Umut (the serious anasthelogist doctor) giving you through the surgery. I were in and out for most parts of the surgery, just if i am dreaming. The extraction phase took around 3 hours, and for me it is the worst and most inconvenient part of the surgery. Then they gave me a lunch break for around 10 minutes. Dr.koray then came and did the incision part, which take almost 25-30 minutes maximum, and final the implantation part which was again done by the techs. for additional 3 hours, and in that part i were totally sleep. After finishing the surgery they took all of the patient that been operated in the same day for a 10 minutes laser therapy to facilitate healing, after which dr. koray came and evaluate all of the patient and make sure that every thing is going in the proper way. DAY 2 SURGERY 09/08/2019 Same as the first day, except for me it was more painful than the first day, especially the extraction phase, i am not sure why, but according to some of the other patient i met at asmed and had a previous HT surgeries, they mentioned that the vertex part of the scalp is usually more painful than the frontal part that has been done in the first day. After completing all the surgeries, they take you again for the Kebot machine that analyze every part of the scalp for around 15 minutes. Day 3 first hair wash 10/08/2019 They remove the bandage from the donor area, and they apply the conditioner followed by the shampoo and gives all the instructions that you need to follow in the following 10 day after surgery. As i said, i stayed for additional nights at radisson blue, so they were washing my hair daily at the clinic, but its not necessarily, since it seems to be a straightforward process. In a conclusion, i am happy about everything regarding my experience, especially the services provided by the clinic, the quality of work until the moment, and Suzana (my coordinator). I wished that i had a more aggressive hairline, bit i hope this hair line will suite my face. Also i wished that dr.erdogan spent more time with us during the consultation , since it was only 10 minutes discussion before getting into this major decision. I will try to update on a monthly basis, and happy to hear you comments. Hair situation and medication: - Androgenic alopecia: NW5 - Finestraide: proscar (1.25 mg) started with the procedure. - 5% Minoxidil: stopped using it 3 weeks before the surgery ( i have been using it twice a day for 9 years). Graft calculator: Total: 5512 Ratio: 2.13 Single: 1045 Double: 2821 Triple: 1545 Quardruple: 95 Quintpule: 5 Sextuple: 1 Hair thickness: 67 microns
  4. Alright....looks like it's my turn at the plate. Since I'd used this forum quite a bit when making decisions concerning my hair restoration surgery, I thought I'd share my experience with the community to help others make their decisions as well. My FUE procedure with ASMED was performed 11 days ago (December 17, 2018) and I had 3051 grafts transplanted. My progress and thoughts are described below. Online Quote I submitted my request for a quote on ASMED's website. This was a pretty simple process involving the submission of 12 photos (6 wet, 6 dry) from various angles and the submission of answers, on the website, to certain questions related to my hair loss, hair restoration goals, and medical history. Within a day, I received an email assigning me my patient coordinator. The following, day, I received an estimate for the total graft count I'd likely need, as well as the expected duration (in days) of the surgery and the amount of time I'd need to spend in Istanbul. A rough sketch of the surgical plan was provided, as well as a brief synopsis of what the surgery would entail, as well as the price per graft (2.5 euros) and information about the regrowth warranty. For those who have not done this yet, I'd recommend using a flash when you take your pictures. I didn't use a flash with mine (I used indirect natural light) and ended up getting under-quoted, as the extent of my hair loss at the vertex wasn't completely apparent in the images I had provided. Why I Chose ASMED I did a lot of research prior to making my decision. Out of all the reputable doctors I found (ones who were endorsed by the IAHRS, American Hair Loss Association, and this forum), Dr. Koray had the most patient results posted online, both by the clinic and by the patients, themselves. I had done an analysis of these results on one of the other threads by scanning through three of the online forums, including this one, and found that there was at least an 81% chance of having a good to great result, which was sufficient for me. There weren't really enough reviews of the other doctors to analyze them in a similar way with statistical significance. When combined with the cost of the procedure (which was relatively low compared to other top-tier clinics), dates of availability that aligned with my own, the 90% regrowth guarantee, ASMED's generally good reputation, etc., this clinic seemed like the best match for me. Coordination Prior to Trip While I waited for a few months between the submission of my deposit and my travel date, I peppered my coordinator (Muge) with questions about the process and procedure. For example, I asked her about: Methods of payment (including exchange rates, whether I could bring USD for the cash portion of my payment, etc.). You make an initial deposit in euros (maximum of 3500 euros) and then the remainder of the balance is paid in cash upon arrival at the clinic, on the consultation day. I was allowed to bring USD. To be honest, I wasn't very happy about having to carry thousands of dollars of cash with me (since I was kind of paranoid about losing it or being robbed), but, thankfully, I didn't end up having any issues. Information about my personal safety and the drivers. ASMED provides a photograph of their drivers, who pick you up at the airport, drive you to the hotel/clinic. All transportation to/from the airport and to/from the clinic is handled by ASMED. Information about accommodations. You're given the choice to stay at the Radisson Blu Istanbul Asia or at the clinic itself. I opted for the former, as the rooms at the clinic, as nice as they were, looked/felt a bit too much like hospital rooms. Also, I liked the 24 hour room service available at the hotel and the option to eat in solitude, if I so chose. If you choose to stay at the clinic, however, they provide you free meals throughout the day (you only get breakfast included if you stay at the hotel). Details about who would be performing the various aspects of the surgery, which was a point of contention on these forums. Dr. Koray performs the consultation, draws the hairline, and does the incisions during the surgery. Techs to the extraction and implantations. I discussed this at length with my coordinator and had a thorough understanding of how this would work long before I traveled; by the time I made the trip, I was comfortable with this arrangement. From what I was told, all technicians are required to meet specific, rigorous requirements (certain number of years practicing with the clinic, quality certification, etc.) before they are allowed to take part in the surgery. My coordinator was responsive, quick, and went out of her way to allay any of the concerns I had. She responded to me by email, phone (on the rare occasion when texting wouldn't be sufficient), and WhatsApp texting. Flights, Transportation, and Hotel I'm not going to go into detail about the flights, as that whole process is pretty straightforward and not really relevant to the clinic itself. Given that I'm from the US, I did need to get a travel visa to enter Turkey (you can do this online in advance and it costs about 20 USD). As expected, my driver was waiting for me in the airport arrivals area. He was holding a tablet with my name on it. The ride from the airport to the hotel was about 45 minutes (you cross from the European side of Istanbul to the Asian side) and I was the only passenger. The driver was friendly and responsive to my requests; he even described some parts of the city to me, as if he were giving a tour, during the drive. Additionally, water bottles and snacks were available inside the car. I opted to stay in the hotel for the reasons previously described. The room is comfortable and clean and there's a nice view of Istanbul if you're on one of the higher floors. Moreover, the hotel has 24 hour room service and a reasonably diverse menu -- this was a big selling point for me, as I was a bit self conscious about leaving the room with my head all marked up before the surgery and bandaged up after surgery. The employees at the front desk speak English, though the room service bellhops sometimes don't (IMO, they didn't really need to). The hotel has a spa and other pretty cool amenities, though I'll admit I didn't take advantage of many of them. In-Person Consultation On consultation day (the Friday before the procedure), I was driven to the clinic in the early afternoon. I was promptly greeted in the lobby by my coordinator, as well as a host who asked if I needed a drink or a snack (she did this repeatedly throughout the day). Two girls in the lobby serenaded the waiting patients with piano and violin. The atmosphere was light and relaxing. There were several other patients in the lobby at the same time, taking a break from various stages of the consultation. My coordinator sat down with me and gave me an overview of what I should be expecting that day, as well as on surgery day. After we discussed certain questions I had, she led me to various rooms for different stages of the pre-operative process, including a blood test and EKG, photographs, head shaving, etc. These activities were generally smooth and quick, though I had one small criticism -- specifically, that I had to wait for a while in the lobby for Dr. Koray to finish surgery before my in-person consultation. I was really jetlagged and tired at the time and it would've been better if I didn't have to wait nearly as long between the tests and the consultation with the doctor (like if they had timed me to come later in the afternoon). Other than this, everything was pleasant. When I met with Dr. Koray in his office, he greeted me warmly and introduced me to some of the other senior staff members. He came across as affable, jovial, and welcoming. As I introduced myself, he cracked a joke about the trend line from my analysis on this forum; at first, I was a bit taken aback that he knew I was the author, since I never actually identified myself (but I guess there weren't many American patients coming at the same time as I was). I sat down and Dr. Koray showed me the photographs taken earlier that day on his monitor. I showed him my own printed photos of what I wanted to look like (images of me from about 5 years ago), as well as pictures of my bald grandfather as an illustration of family history. Dy. Koray explained that we could meet my goal, but that I was, unfortunately, on my way to a NW6 (I'm currently NW3). He went on to explain that the degree of surgical intervention required would likely be higher than originally expected. As mentioned above, the photos taken at the clinic revealed noticeable thinning at the crown/vertex that wasn't nearly as apparent in the images that I had taken at home. The doctor recommended that I take finasteride in order to avoid having to come back to have the vertex worked in the near future (I was only quoted for a one day surgery on the frontal part of my head) and I explained to him the negative experience (i.e., side effects) that I'd experienced with finasteride years ago. He said he understood and that he respected my position, given that I'd tried it already in the past. I ultimately decided that I prefer to avoid finasteride (given what happened the first time I used it) and might come back to Turkey for a second round later, if necessary. I'll deal with the vertex when the time comes; this way, I'll have a chance to see how the results on the front part of my head turn out before I make any more decisions. At this point, the doctor took measurements of my hair and explained the calculation he uses to determine coverage. He then drew a hairline and asked for my thoughts. I was a bit picky with the hairline and requested several tweaks (including one small modification on the morning of the surgery) so that the line would match the natural one I used to have as closely as possible/reasonable. The doctor was patient with me and made the changes I asked for. After we were finished, and as I was getting up to leave his office, Dr. Koray turned to me and said something to the effect of "LordBaldwin, I can tell you care a lot about details, and so do I. I won't disappoint you." He went out of his way to reassure me; it seemed like he cares a great deal about making his patients happy. Surgery On surgery day, I was driven to the clinic early in the morning. I was taken to a small locker room to change into a surgical gown and was then led to the surgical room. The entire surgical area was very clean and organized (as an example, my coordinator had me change into a different set of shoes that they provided me as I entered into the "clean area"). In the surgical room, the team gave me a blanket and checked that I was comfortable. The anaesthesiologist asked me if I was nervous and I told him that my heart rate (which was showing on one of the monitors as around 90 bpm) is usually around 70 bpm. He nodded and injected me with a benzodiazepene and a sedative. I almost immediately relaxed. I sat upright with a head support wedged between my chin and my lap as the technicians injected my scalp with local anaesthetic and began the extraction phase. As they proceeded, they were very professional and repeatedly asked me if I felt any pain (if I did, they'd give me some more local anaesthetic). As grafts were removed from the donor area of my scalp, one of the technicians observed them under a microscope and counted, in real time, how many singles, doubles, triples, etc. had been extracted. These numbers were displayed on a screen in front of me. My coordinator handed me a tablet in case I wanted to surf the web or watch a movie. If I recall correctly, extractions took about 3 hours. We took a break for lunch, which the clinic provided. Upon returning to the operating room, I was told I could lie down for the remainder of the surgery. I was hooked back into the IV and Dr. Koray came in to do the incisions. I don't remember exactly how long the incision phase took since I was sedated and kept drifting in and out of sleep, but I do remember Dr. Koray working on me for some time, then shaking my hand at the end and mentioning that my circulation was very good and I'll be very happy with how things turn out. I slept through most of the implantation phase as well, up until the last hour or so. The technicians were methodical and quiet, and my coordinator, who sat across from me, assured me that everything was going well and repeatedly asked how I was doing. In total, the procedure took about 9 hours. After it was over, I was led back down to the photography room for post-operative photos to be taken. I was given instructions on how to do the post-op washes, sat under a laser/light follicular stimulation pod for a little while, and then was invited to dinner at the clinic (invitations for dinner at the clinic were extended to me every night I was in Istanbul, except for the weekend). Although I was only required to stay until the next day for the first wash, I opted to stay for an additional two days to recover a bit before I traveled back to the US. In the morning on each of the additional two days, I was driven back to the clinic for my morning wash (and some tea). Overall Impression Overall, I'm very happy with my experience at ASMED and would recommend it to other prospective patients (provided that they've done their due diligence and understand how surgeries are performed there). Since I had prepared extensively for my trip, I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to experience and there were no surprises. All of the employees were very accommodating, friendly, and attentive, and I felt well taken care of. The clinic itself was large, clean, and modern (ASMED had clearly spared no expense). A couple of other little pluses I noted: - On one occasion, I asked if the clinic had Turkish coffee (I wanted to try this since I didn't really get the chance to explore Istanbul while I was there). They didn't have it at that moment, but they actually went out and got it for me the following day! This was a relatively minor thing, but it impressed me. - On the last day I was there (when I came to the clinic for my third wash), Dr. Koray came into the room and asked me about my experience, making sure that it was positive. I told him I had enjoyed my time there, which he was happy to hear. The fact that he cared so much about my experience struck me very positively. Progress First, some hair characteristics... Hair thickness: 55 microns Hair per graft: ~2.44 Donor capacity prior to surgery: 8400 grafts Number of grafts transplanted: 3051 over 60 cm^2 Transplanted graft density: ~50 grafts/cm^2 And now, some pictures. Pre-Operative: Surgical Plan: Immediate Post-Operative (Day 0): Day 2 Post-Op: Day 3 (swelling is mostly gone): Day 5 (scabs and some minor cracking visible): Day 7 (vast majority of the scabs have come off): Day 10:
  5. You should have online consultations with a few and let us know what they told u. You can try Eugenix INDIA, HLC Ankara, Dr. Bruno Ferreira, Dr. Koray Erdogan, to name a few.
  6. Hi guys, here is a little bit of my journey with Dr. Erdogan on 28th-29th January: Two weeks before my HT I had a surgery on my shoulder and for this reason a friend of mine, who is a German surgeon-doctor (ears, nose and throat), flew with me to Istanbul to help me. We arrived in Istanbul at 11:30 and the driver was already there waiting for us. He was very friendly but he couldn't speak English. He put me on the phone with Seda, Dr. Erdogan's assistant, who told me what we were about to do. He drove us for approximately 90 min. to the clinic in a very comfortable van for my consultation with Dr. Erdogan. The new clinic is quite impressive. We were welcomed by one of the receptionists who spoke fluent English and instructed us to step on a machine in order to seal our shoes for hygienic reasons before coming in. She informed us we had to wait about 60 min. since Dr. Erdogan was still in surgery. Meanwhile my preop pictures were taken. The foto room is one level below on the same level as the cafeteria and the “ hair salon” where we shave our heads before surgery and do the washing the day after. Being back to the waiting area they offered us some tea and coffee. We have waited for a few minutes until Dr. Erdogan arrived. He warm welcomed us and I asked him to show me the whole clinic which he happily agreed to do. During our "tour", he showed me the two very comfortable suites, where patients can stay during the procedures (where me and my friend stayed over the 2 nights we were in Istanbul for my procedure), the meeting room where Dr. Erdogan discusses everyday the cases with his team, the entertainment room and finally the surgery floor with 4 surgery rooms, 2 floors below the reception. I was very impressed with the whole clinic, but I must say the surgery rooms impressed me the most. Not only me but also my friend, who runs his own clinic in Germany. The whole area is state of the art concerning air conditioning with HEPA filters, equipment to check the humidity in each surgery room, sterilisation equipment and hygiene procedures. In order to preserve the grafts better Dr. Erdogan developed a cooling table, which realy impressed my friend. He was also very impressed with the quality of the equipments and the monitoring equipment. Each surgery room has a camera, which allows Dr. Erdogan to follow each surgery from his office and/or from every of the theaters. After the tour I went to his office to calculate the area to be covered, donor area, number or grafts and to discuss and design my hairline, which took about 1:30 hour. I didn't have anything in mind and I was very happy with the hairline suggested by Dr. Erdogan. He explained to me every detail and reason for the suggested hairline. After a good night sleep I was ready for my surgery beginning at 8 o'clock. First day (January 28th): 7:30 - Breakfast at the clinic. 8:00 - I shaved my head. 8:15 - Dr. Erdogan and his team designed my hairline, then electrocardiogram and blood sugar check. 9:45 - We started the procedure with local anesthesia (Delek applied 9cc in total), which was a bit uncomfortable in the beginning. Right after that Delek starts the extractions (2002 grafts). I was really surprised how fast and confident she is. During the extractions I had Mustafa helping Delek holding my head during the whole procedure. Another two technicians were responsible for preparing and counting the grafts. 12:30 - Lunch break. I ate a delicious Turkish meal. 13:00 - Incisions: Delek applied 11cc in total in the recipient area, which was also uncomfortable in the beginning. After that Dr. Erdogan prepared the recipient area doing all the incisions by himself. 14:05 - Implantation: I had no pain, but in my experience it was the most uncomfortable part of the day. 17:30 - Finally we were done, after Dr. Erdogan made a final check. I got then a bandage on my donor area. I received a cool pack for my eyes, a neck pillow to prevent damages on my recipient area and pain medication. I was feeling very well, had dinner in the clinic and took one pain pill before going to sleep. I slept the whole night. On the first day I had the chance to meet some of the patients who were going through their procedures. They were two Italian guys who were on their second day. I also met a Swiss guy who was there for a control consultation. This guy was having his third procedure with Dr. Erdogan. Second day (January 29th) - For me the second day was even easier than the first day. Maybe because I knew what to expect. Dr. Erdogan told me it varies from patient to patient. 7:30 - Breakfast at the clinic. 8:00 - Hair saloon to shave my hair again and washing my head. 9:00 - Same procedure as on the first day. Anesthesia (12cc in total) and extractions done by Delek (2000 grafts). 11:15 - Anesthesia (10cc in total) on my recipient area (applied by Mustafa) and Dr. Erdogan came to make all the incisions by himself. 12:45 - Lunch break to eat another delicious Turkish meal! 13:15 - PRP and Implantation made by Delek and Mustafa. 17:30 - End of the day. Dr. Erdogan made a final check. I got then a bandage on my donor area. I received pain medication and antibiotics. I was feeling very well, had dinner again in the clinic and took one pain pill before going to sleep. I slept the whole night. On the second day I had the chance to meet other patients who were going through their procedures. One Swedish guy in one Albanian guy. I also met a Turkish patient who is also a member of this forum, Spar. He's a very friendly guy and he was having his procedure on the next two days. Third and final day (January 30th): 8:30 - First washing. Dr. Erdogan was very happy with the surgery. 9:00 - Breakfast at the clinic. 10:00 - I met the new members of the team, specially those who will be responsible for the English speaker patients. Dr. Erdogan has an impressive structure. The members of his team are divided by language expertise. They are usually native speakers to make the whole process easier. 13:00 - I had lunch with Dr. Erdogan. We talked a lot about this forum. He told me some of his plans for the future and I must say I was really impressed! I will let you know on the right time! 15:00 - The same driver (the clinic has two) drove us to the airport. We've reached the airport about 16:45. Our flight was at 19:45 so we had time for shopping and having a coffee at the airport. For the records: During the whole two days procedure I had a translator with me. On the first day was a French translator (very cute girl!) and on the second day an Italian translator (very friendly guy). They are there mostly to entertain you during the procedure, change the dvds we watch during the procedure and for sure, help you with the language, if necessary, since Dr. Erdogan and Delek speak very good English (Dr. Erdogan speaks fluently and better than Delek) and to check if you are okay or if you have any pain. Once they notice you are in discomfort, they ask the team to stop and apply more anesthesia. I knew Dr. Erdogan already but seeing him working on these two days impressed me a lot. He has a lot to do but he still finds time to be friendly and attentive with all his patients. He is extremely perfectionist which is important in this kind of work. I must say I had an incredible experience at the clinic. Since the beginning I felt like home. It was too long 2 days but easy to handle. Summary of my two days procedure: Total procedure time: Approximately 15h and 15min. Total number of grafts: 4002 grafts. Single: 368 Double: 1.213 Triple: 1.541 Multiple: 880 Average hair per grafts: 2.76 Total anesthesia in the donor area: 21cc. Total anesthesia in the recipient area: 21cc. Once again I would like to thank this forum to clarify many of my questions and for helping me to find Dr. Erdogan! So guys feel free to ask me any questions. It will be great to have you onboard! I will keep you updated!
  7. Hello, Now it's finally my turn to give back to this community by sharing my story, experience and progress of my hair transplant surgery which I did with Dr. Koray Erdogan at ASMED Clinic in Istanbul 9-10th Jan 2020. Background I'm a 29 year old guy from Sweden and I started experiencing hair loss when I was around 22. I started to lose hair very slowly, it was barely noticeable but as baldness is in my family I kind of knew it would eventually turn into NW 5/6 and wanted to do something about it early. So I booked a consultation with New Hair Clinic which was the top clinic in Sweden at the time, but they suggested me to wait a few years before undergoing surgery. I didn't really feel my situation was that critical so I followed their advice and didn't do anything about it, but I did however get useful knowledge about hair loss and about finasteride, minoxidil and the lasercap even if I didn't start using any medications immediately. I was a bit skeptical to finasteride due to potential side effects but started using minoxidil 5% at age 24 and after a few months I could already see both regrowth and thicker hair, it felt really nice and all my anxiety about hair loss dropped, situation was handled. I've read about people that tried minoxidil and didn't see any results (or at least not quick enough) so they became skeptical and eventually stopped it. Well it's true that some don't see as much improvements as others, but for me it really worked and I got great results. I learnt (the hard way, I'll come to that) that the important thing is to be very patient and consistent with it, in the beginning I was using it mornings and evenings every day and held on to it during the shedding phase and that was probably key for me. Unfortunately at age 26 I got a bit overconfident about my hair and got sloppier with the daily minoxidil routine. Mainly it was due to that I had summer vacation and I was travelling a lot so I started skipping days, but then I had also got used to my hair being so full for such a long time and somehow thought that I might have stabilized it and didn't need minoxidil anymore. Which was false obviously... Within a month or so I immediately started seeing my hair fall off again and this time it was getting even thinner and on the crown too. At this time I began researching about hair transplant clinics again and did an online and phone consultation with Dr. Saifi at European Hair Transplant in Poland who I had read some good posts about in a Swedish forum. He quoted me 2200 grafts for the frontal and part of the mid-section area. He had a waiting list of 6 months, but I ended up not booking as I still didn't feel ready and hadn't got the push to actually do it. I started with minoxidil again and was able to recover a lot of hair. This time I applied it only in the evenings as it was messier to apply it in the mornings and I wanted to style my hair without it. I did however apply almost double the dose (maximum daily dose) when applied in the evening. I didn't know if it would still be helpful but I thought to try it out and it actually helped keeping it stable so I continued like that for another 2 years. Then last year at age 28 I underwent a tough period that got me to seriously consider a hair transplant. I stopped using minoxidil as I didn't prioritize it due to personal circumstances and a lot of change happening in my life (including new job & country). I was well aware that I would probably lose hair again but I accepted it and thought that if it would get really bad I'd just shave bald. It took a month or so and I panicked when I saw the hair loss and realized I actually didn't want to lose my hair, note sure what I was thinking before. So I started with minoxidil again and the shedding phase this time was horrible. My hair never fully recovered again to how it was before the shedding and that's what pushed me into actually going for a hair transplant. After having done research online and reading a lot on this forum and seeing good results I decided to contact Dr. Koray Erdogan for a consultation where he quoted me 5000 grafts for the front, mid and crown areas + recommended finasteride to stop further hair loss. I didn't take finasteride but continued with minoxidil (until 2.5 weeks prior to the surgery), and then it took me a year of consideration until I eventually booked the surgery with ASMED now in Jan 2020. The consultation I had my dad with me who is a NW6 and the first thing Dr. Koray did was to go and inspect his hair to see where I'm headed. The bad news was that my dad's hair had become thinner also on the sides and back, and he said that if I would to follow the same pattern then my donor area would not be as strong as it might seem right now. Although I was not happy to hear that I was glad that he noticed this as I will now be careful to not over-harvest my donor in case of future surgeries. He then also inspected my hair and did a calculation of my donor capacity which was estimated to 8300 grafts. He said that I had to start with finasteride as I didn't have enough donor capacity to cover my full head if I were to loose all existing hair in the future (estimated to 8700 grafts). Was not very happy to hear this either, as I had already during the online consultation expressed that I preferred not to take finasteride but that I was fine with continuing with minoxidil as I had seen good results from it. They had then said that they respected this, so I ended up having a small argument with the doctor as he tried convincing me to take it, and that if I didn't he would rather not want to do the crown area right now but use the 5000 grafts on the front and mid-section and then do the crown next time. I didn't like this option as I wanted to prioritize the front and crown as I already have some hair in the mid-section which I hope to keep for a couple of years with the use of minoxidil, and instead consider a second surgery in the future if I would need it. Anyway, as the doctor convinced me that the risk of side effects is very little and that taking it would help against shock loss and improve growth during the first year, I decided to try it out and he supplied me with Proscar for 4-5 months (1.25 mg daily). He drew a hair line which was a bit more conservative than what I had aimed for, but given that I had limited donor capacity and after seeing the pre-consultation photos that were taken by the clinic I realized that my hair loss was much worse than I had perceived it and accepted his suggestion. The pre-surgery care, clinic & surgery days As many other members have already described these parts I will not go into much detail. But what I can say is that everything from the contact with my patient coordinator Andreea, to the pickup from the airport, to the greeting at the clinic and the surgery itself was very professional. I stayed at the clinic for 5 nights and the service was exceptional. All of the staff were very nice and the food was great. Before going I was hesitant whether I should stay at the clinic or book a room at Radisson Blu hotel, but now afterwards I don't regret it at all. It was very comfortable not having to leave the facility, having breakfast, lunch and dinner just outside your room and get to meet other patients that were also staying there in the spare time. They had live music in the evenings, big screen TV, pool table and the basement had a high quality gym and basketball area. What I also appreciated was that for patients staying over the weekend, ASMED arrange a free city tour of Istanbul with a private guide where we got to visit the famous bazaar, the blue mosque and the city center. Hair situation and medication - Androgenic alopecia: NW5/6 - Finasteride: Proscar (1.25 mg) started with the procedure. - 5% minoxidil (topical): Been using it daily for 5 years (Stopped it 2.5 weeks before the surgery but will start using Minoxidil foam in a few weeks) - Daily hair-loss shampoo: Nisim NewHair Biofactors Shampoo (Normal to dry) Graft distribution - Total donor capacity: 8300 - Total transplanted grafts: 5078 - Hair thickness: 61 microns - Ratio: 2.03 hair/graft - Single: 1190 - Double: 2658 - Triple: 1103 - Quadruple: 125 - Quintuple: 2 I think I've covered most of it now and will keep uploading photos of the progress here. Feel free to ask me anything if you have any questions. /KM90
  8. Hello guys. Can see on this forum more people take a part. HLT forum has lately died. Have checked many threads in here and noticed that many of you who had been doing ht in Asmed got the same issue like me after 1st procedure. Had a touch up cos my gaps and lack of density behind the hairline was killing me. This is the link to my first hair transplanthttps://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...key-dr-koray-erdogan-3073grafts.112181/page-3Wasn't happy at all. Had no density and loads of gaps between some area(you can see properly now on the photo below). Have decided to give another try to Dr. Koray. Seen many bad results lately, but he used to be the top one. Still believe he can do a very good hair transplant like before 2017( on which I based my opinion about chosing the clinic). I am aware its a bit risky to do it but wanted to trust him again. Hopefully this time more grafts gonna survive and I haven't made a wrong decision... gain everything(nice looking front and almost whole nw3 covered with grafts or lose almost everything, many grafts used and still not being pleased). Let's see and the answer we will get within 6-9 months (seen already 2 guys in here which had touch up in the same clinic(asmed) and is looking great. )
  9. Hey Guys, in few days I will pass the 7. month mark and I would like to show you my progress. Actual I'm very disappointed and I hoped that my 7 month status would look much better. I notice a very low density in both temple areas. It could be lower than 15-20 grafts per square centimeter (Implanted density was ca. 50 grafts per sqcm). Another thing which disturb me are that there are many multiple grafts in the hairline. I think it tends to be a failure, but I would like to hear your opinion to my case. PS: Sorry for my english 😀
  10. Hi All. I posted this over at Bald Truth but it looks like they don't allow negative reviews as my post was not approved... I'll cut a long story short. A year on from my nightmare FUE transplant with Dr Rana Irfan at Vagus Cosmetics in Islamabad, I thought I'd share my story. I've been meaning to do this for a long time but haven't been able to muster up the energy as it's revisiting a negative time. I planned to visit Dr Koray Erdogan for my FUE and was making arrangements to send his office my pictures and information etc. A friend of mine said he had come across a surgeon in Islamabad who had a good reputation, whom he was going to visit. This friend (?) was very studious when it came to researching doctors (or so I thought) so I trusted his diligence - my mistake. Apparently this doctor in Islamabad was just as good as Dr Koray and delivered the same results. As someone who had intended to visit doctor Koray for years, I can only blame myself for not going with my own plan. I was due to travel to Islamabad early last year with this friend for an FUE procedure. To cut a long story short - my friend went first (last April/May) and came back saying he was happy with the procedure. When I saw his results about a month after his procedure he was already shedding but I saw implants in the temples that looked odd and bumpy. He said this was apparently normal and the redness and bumps would settle. There was nothing untoward other than that. I traveled to Islamabad with this friend in June last year for my FUE. Prior to heading off I spoke to a Doctor Hussain in Islamabad who warned me against going to Dr Rana as people were known to come back with serious infections. We thought this was a case of rivalry perhaps so didn't really think anything of it. Another mistake. I arrived in late June and was told the doctor could do 5000 grafts. I did think this was rather optimistic but would have been happy with 4000. The day of the procedure, I was taken to theatre and after speaking with the surgeon and defining my hairline, the technicians applied anesthetic after shaving my head. A while later the doctor arrived and started remove grafts from the donor area. After a brief period he stopped and started to create slits in the recipient area. The technicians started to process the grafts and the doctor disappeared. I thought there's no way that could have been near even 3000 grafts. After a long delay I asked where the doctor was and someone went to summon him. He returned saying he had to pop in and see another patient but not to worry, he was undergoing an FUT procedure so it wouldn't be long process. I started to worry at this point. My friend had the sole attention of the surgeon during his procedure and I was told the doctor didn't carry out multiple procedures on the same day. When the doctor arrived I realised that the technicians in the corner of the room were processing grafts for the other patient - in the same room as where my procedure was being carried out. This is not going to end well I thought, but by now I was not in a position to just walk out. Prior to the surgery I had blood taken for PRP - my grafts were to be soaked in the PRP while waiting to be placed. A technician came in with my blood and put the vessel on the table for the other patient and was immediately scolded by another technician. Can this get any worse I thought. Yes it could. The doctor checked on how the grafts were being processed and disappeared again. This time for a long time. I was told to take a break and eat something. After eating the doctor had still not returned. He came back a long time after and I was not very happy and let him know. I'm condensing the timeline here, but when he returned and started to carry out a second round of extractions the anesthetic was starting to wear off and I could feel stinging pain. During the extraction there was a pause. A technician came in and told the doctor someone was here to see him. It was late by now. I was lying face down waiting for the extraction to continue. After a pause and period of inactivity I wondered what was going on - I looked up and there was another guy lying down in the chair to mine! The doctor was injecting PRP for him. I was stunned. Obviously I objected (I wasn't in a position to do much being in a robe and half my head full of holes) and the guy left after the injections. The doctor said it's okay I've changed my gloves and I didn't want to go to another room to do the PRP and leave you waiting. I thought well firstly you did leave me waiting, and second, you brought someone into a live theatre when you should have not entertained any visitors let alone carried out a PRP session mid-procedure! By now I knew I'd gotten myself into a bad situation. After the second extraction it was very late and the doctor told the technicians to hurry up and start inserting the grafts. I said actually no, don't hurry up, can you please do it properly. The doctor disappeared and the the technicians had to pump me full of more anesthetic as the implants were painful. They commented that the slits were closing up and they were struggling to get the grafts in deep enough. One was planting grafts on the right side and one was doing the left. I don't believe the grafts were trimmed properly either. After it was all done, it was was around midnight. We had started at 11 AM. When I looked at my results I thought this looks different. I've seen many results and there is a dense packing of grafts with the obvious clots of blood. My grafts had clumps of skin at the ends. I was also worried that a long time had elapsed since the first extraction and the placement i.e. whether the grafts would survive. After the procedure some of the technicians washed my head daily (I had the procedure on a Monday and I left on Thursday). When I was leaving for the U.K. I was told by the office manager I did not need to wear a hat or a dressing due to dust/dirt as it had been over 72 hours and the grafts had set. I was told it's best to air my head out as much as possible. I asked for a discharge report detailing the number of grafts, etc. It listed 4200. This was nonsense as I later discovered. Now - here's when things really go south. When I returned to the U.K. just over two-weeks later I developed pustules in the donor area. I was initially treated by a doctor for folliculitis, but the antibiotics had not effect. I then paid to see a private scalp dermatologist who took a swab which proved positive for MRSA. I was treated with the appropriate antibiotics and it cleared up. At this point hair started to shed. The implanted hair around the temples was the last to go. There was also hair that did not shed and did not grow either which was odd. Eventually that hair fell out after over a month. When hair started to grow around three to four months later, I saw the hair in the temple area and even the top of the head looked linear (not random) and there were bumps at the base of the hair. I was told not to panic by Dr Rana and to keep using coconut oil. Apparently it cures everything. I eventually became more and more upset and the conversations took a bizarre turn where Dr Rana insisted that I would never find a doctor as sincere as him (I have all his messages) and the other specialists advising me in the U.K. were jealous. I reminded him a sincere doctor would not lie about carrying out multiple surgeries and if someone had traveled a long distance to see him, the least he could have done was to focus on that patient and not try to juggle more than one surgery. Things came to a head when, after seeing doctors in the U.K., it emerged the placement was rushed and botched (grafts not deep enough and were not trimmed properly - this was due to the delays juggling two procedures and a rushed attempt to complete the graft placement close to midnight). There are small bumps of elevated skin over the recipient area and temples and pitted areas as well. The donor area has been "butchered" I was told. Hair was even taken from "no-go" areas. I told Dr. Rana that unless he refunded my money I'd have legal action brought against him. According to Dr. Rana there's there's a quota of negligent procedures you're allowed if you carry out a certain number of procedures that went okay - he didn't say this but I'm paraphrasing... he agreed to refund my money but after a few weeks of stalling I had a Letter of Intent sent to him and he refunded half of the money. It wasn't even about the money for me - it was more of a gesture that he's not getting away scot-free. I still wish to pursue further action against him but I'm looking at the options. Fast-forward since then - I've seen doctors at two private clinics. I've had my case and results referred to Dr. Greg Williams at the Farjo institute for comment by the London Skin and Hair Clinic (I wasn't able to see Dr Williams in person), I've seen Dr Jensen (the chap from Embarrassing Bodies), Dr Chopra at the London Dermatology Centre (I've had a few PRP sessions with him) and I've seen Dr Shahmalak (Crown Clinic). I had a recent review with Dr. Shahmalak to look at a repair session for the disaster Dr Rana calls a procedure. It looks like there's not much he can do due to the donor area being exhausted. Dr Shahmalak said the amount that had been removed did not reflect was was implanted and that he actually contacted Dr. Rana about me and another patient and the response was dismissive - along the lines of well there will always be a couple of people with problems. Yes problems do occur but my experience wasn't an unexpected problem it was pure negligence and even fraud. Here's a list of current issues a year later: Cobblestoning Pitting Ridging - scalp area raised Repeated infections - unexplained still being looked at. Never had this before. Dr Shahmalak thinks it could be a buried graft but I've yet to get this under control Recurring pain in donor area and parts of recipient area Excessive trauma in the donor area - still becomes red and inflamed even a year later It appears not even 2000 grafts were carried out let alone the 4200 I was told Non-random hair placement Hair planted in the wrong direction in right temple area I have a ton of pictures I've taken over the course of a year. Although it's hard to catch some of the things you can see in a mirror with a camera, I've tried to capture the negative results as best as I can and the London Skin and Hair Clinic took pictures whenever I went to see them. I've condensed a years-worth of events as much as I could but it's still turned out to be a long post. The next steps for me are to stop the recurring infections (priority) and dermabrasion to smooth out the scalp. I then have to have the hair in the temples lasered off and then hopefully a repair job with Dr. Shahmalak (looking doubtful now). I'm going to either use SMP or go back to a shaved head with scar camouflage. If anyone comes across Dr Rana Irfan when looking for an FUE procedure run a mile. He still maintains all the specialists I've seen in the U.K. are wrong and in-fact "envious" of him. He claims to be an IAHRS certified surgeon (yes I should have looked into this myself and not trust my "friend") when I don't believe that's the case. His website seems to suggest he's certified by everyone but the Queen of England. I'll post an update after I've seen Dr. Shahmalak following dermabrasion sessions. And by the way, this "friend" disappeared at the first sign of trouble for me. Live an learn eh. The above post is a completely factual account of what took place with my procedure. I have all communications and messages going back a year with Dr Rana Irfan. None of the claims in the legal Letter of Intent were disputed by the clinic. If Dr Rana said well I messed up, that would be one thing, but to state your an "FUE guru" on your website yet act in such a cavalier and dangerous manner with patients while disregarding essential hygiene is insane. My advice to ANYONE looking to get a hair transplant done - if in doubt, walk run away. I've spent a small fortune on specialists and treatments to heal my scalp and I'm still not even done yet. Cheers.
  11. I am located in New York but everyone I contacted is charging about $8-10 per graft so I am thinking to go to Turkey. In 2013 when I was 26 I got 1,200 grafts on my hairline (photo attached) as it was receding. I got it done via FUE Neograft. Now I am 33 and in the last year my scalp has gotten noticeably thin and I am tired of doing a comb over because for while it did the trick but now its gotten worse and hard to hide. Here are some photos. Also I was born with 2 cowlicks. I emailed Dr. Koray Erdogan and his assistant gave me a questionnaire and the vibe I got was that if I dont agree to take Finasteride then he wont do the procedure. I dont want to be on Fina as I know people that have had bad side effects. I thought the whole point of a transplant is to finally forget about hair issues not to continue Fina after getting it done.
  12. @bigtyivier2k2 I advise you to read more about recent results from surgeries at Asmed. Check @munich results below: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/53605-3000-grafts-dr-koray-erdogan-asmed-17082018/page/4/?tab=comments#comment-530811 Asmed is a clinic that does surgery on 8 patients per day and if Dr. Koray is there you will probably just get a handshake. If you do insist on going all the way to Turkey then go to the best in Turkey! These are doctors that do the whole surgery and use the same technique as Dr. Raymond Konior (stick&place). Dr. Keser (3.5€/graft) although he might not accept you because he does a maximum of 2400 grafts per surgery. Dr. Pekiner (2.15€/graft) but he may reject you if you have miniaturized grafts (take a thricogram to be sure) and HLC Ankara. Since you are from NY I would advise to talk with Dr. Bruno Ferreira he is the medical assistant of Dr. Lorenzo in Madrid (top FUE in the world) but also has his own clinic in Porto where he charges 2.5€/graft. It’s a direct 7h flight from NY and much trendier city than desolate Ankara.
  13. Hi all, I am a 29 years old male based in Malaysia, and have been researching for quite a while now. I found the posts here to be super helpful and informative, so thanks a lot everyone for sharing your experience! Initially I was only considering India (Eugenix vs Dr Bhatti), due to proximity from Malaysia. However, with the recent price increase with Eugenix, I am opening up my search into Turkey as well. I was wondering if there is anyone out there who has compared these Indian and Turkish IAHRS doctors? If so, I would really love to hear your opinions! India - Dr Arika Bansal + Dr Pradeep Sethi from Eugenix - Dr Tejinder Bhatti from darling buds in India Turkey - Dr. Ekrem Civas from Civas clinic - Dr. Hakan Doganay from AHD - Dr Koray Erdogan from ASMED Cost is of course a factor for me (e.g., with the most expensive package at 210 Rs with Eugenix, it's almost 2x the price quoted to me from Dr. Bhatti, and flying to turkey will cost more for me), but I would rather spend a bit more money for assurance of good results. If you have not compared the doctors between countries, would love to hear your 2 cents if you've looked any of the doctors as well. Really appreciate your help, and I wish everyone a full head of hair till they're 80 years old
  14. Hi, i am am new member here. Recently I have been in touch with ASMED for an initial consultation and quotation for FUE hair transplant. According to ASMED, I will be requiring 4500-5000 FUE transplant for both of my front and centre. It will be performed over 2 days so I will be required to stay for 4 days 3 nights. I have received quotation for 2.5 euro per follicle with Dr Koray Erdogan and 1.4 euro per follicle with Dr Alp Bayramoglu and Head Surgical Assiatant Dilek Cakir. As per any other operation, it will be Dr Alp Bayramoglu that perform the pre-assessment (drawing and planning) and incision process. Same thing applies if I choose Dr Koray Erdogan as well. Financial plays a big factor for my consideration as well as the review of the Dr. May I know is there anyone here had their surgery done by Dr Alp Bayramoglu?
  15. . ASMED SURGICAL MEDICAL CENTER DR KORAY ERDOGAN - PATIENT'S AGE: 36 - NW: V - Total transplanted area: 130 cm2 - Total donor capacity: 8400 grafts * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital density: 70–80-80 uf/cm2 * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital Hair Diameter: 60-60-60 micron - OPERATION DETAILS: 5416 grafts FUE extracted by manual punch, diameter 0.6,5 & 0.7mm. Incisions executed by: custom made blades sapphire, lateral slit. Placed with K.E.E.P. *1489 grafts single * 2830 grafts double * 975 grafts triple * 122 grafts multiple * General average Hair per Graft: 1.95 - GRAFTS DISTRIBUTION: 5416 grafts were used to restore the patient's FRONTAL, TEMPLE PEAKS and VERTEX areas. - FINASTERIDE: The patient is using the medicine since the operation. * Please note that the "RESULT" pictures were taken by the PATIENT. BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR
  16. Hi everyone, Had my operation on 10th of August 2018, taking Finasteride 1mg and Biotin. It's been 133 days and it looks to me that clock has almost stopped since day 80 or so. I'm still waiting for a significant sprout. Your comments are much appreciated. Pre Op Photos
  17. I am currently approaching 3 months after FUE with 4264 Grafts. I was not originally planning on making a post but decided I should as I have Fine hair (47 Mircrons) and was concerned going in that my donor hair would't be acceptable and did not see many fine hair cases and this board was instrumental in me deciding on Dr. Koray. I will not get into the details of travel and hospitality except to say everything you read about the level of service is absolutely correct. Everyone from the drivers to nurses are very kind and attentive. I was flying from the US so wanted to make sure I had the money required with me. I was going to exchange USD to Euro but was told the exchange rate would be good and they accept USD. Anyone traveling from USA should bring USD and pay in USD. The exchange rate they used was simply googling the current exchange rate and rounding down. There was no commission charged. If I had converted at my bank in USA they would have charged close to 5%. I was originally quoted 5000 grafts but after my consultation, Dr Koray recommended 4200 with 4000 in the front and 200 in the back. He originally thought I would get about 1.8 hairs per graft average. In the end, I received 4262 grafts and they used 400 in the back instead of 200 as my average hair per graft ended up being 2.04. (I was only charged for 4200) I will attach some pictured of various stages including more pictures as hair hopefully comes in. If anyone has any specific questions related to travel from USA let me know and appreciate any comments on my progress. As I stated above the quality of care is extremely high even more so than even USA standards. The only complaint I had would be the communication post opp was not great. I think one issue I had was my coordinator, Buqet (I thought Buqet was amazing) left to return to school almost immediately after I had my procedure so I was dealing with someone else who was taking over for her. I was very concerned with the scabs and getting them off and there were several days where I didn't receive communications when I could have used advise so If someone from Asmed is reading this post I would recommend having someone who is solely responsible for post opp care and questions.
  18. Clark my advise is go to a Doctor with a steady flow of great results that does the whole procedure himself. In the whole of Turkey there are only 2 Doctors that tick those boxes, Dr. Kaan Pekiner (2.15€/graft) and Dr. Kesser. Run as fast as you can from all the Turkish low cost and all inclusive hair mills with techs doing all the work because your results will depend on the techs doing your surgery and most of them are getting paid minimum wage 300bucks/month (some clinics even hire Siryan refugees and paid them even less than minimum wage). Some people will tell you to go to Asmed (Dr. Koray Erdogan) but this clinic is also tech run, at most the Doctor will shake your hand if he’s there on the day of your surgery. Though they are known to have good techs. In Europe you won’t find any world class doctors with a better price than Dr. Ximena Villa (2,5€/graft) and Dr. Bruno Ferreira (2,5€/graft). You can check Dr. Ximena’s many results on the spanish forum recuperartupelo.com and Dr. Bruno Ferreira is now posting results in this forum
  19. Hi everyone - I've been silently reading this forum for the last few months and it was instrumental in my decision to take the plunge and get a hair transplant. Here's my experience and journey so far. Statistics: Age: 33 NW: High (IV/V, possibly emerging VI but that's my guess) Caliber: 60 microns Hair / Graft Ratio: 2.04 Total Grafts Transplanted: 5,621 Estimated Donor Capacity: 8,200 Background: Like many of you, I’ve suffered from hair loss for most of my adult life, have tried (and abandoned) various hair regrowth treatments and thought becoming bald was my inevitable fate. I only started thinking about hair transplant options over the past 6 months or so when I randomly came across some articles discussing the latest advancements (and horror stories) in the field and the relative inexpensiveness of operations in Turkey and elsewhere. I began researching the topic seriously and this website was instrumental in my decision to go with Dr. Koray Erdogan. In selecting Dr. Koray, I focused on three things - results, passion for the craft and price. Being a high Norwood with a family history afflicted with MPB, I needed someone who had expertise with large HT cases like my own. I cared about passion for the craft because, I believe, thought-leadership and innovation are indicators of success, and I wanted the best-of-class when it comes to a major cosmetic operation that could either be transformative or a major disappointment. Finally, it had to fit my budget... now; I wasn't interested in taking years to save up $30-$45,000 that some US doctors were quoting me. Before settling on Dr. Koray, I researched and consulted with other hair transplant surgeons. As a Southern California native, I looked into local doctors (Armani, Rassman, Bisanga and others), some of the other big names in hair transplant I was coming across (Couto, Frietas, H&W, etc.), as well as other Turkish doctors (Karadeniz, Civas, Doganjay and some of the low-cost options too, like Cinik and Maral). I had a few in person and online consultations with some of these doctors, which was helpful. Frankly, the North American / European doctors who had impressive results were out of my budget. Dr. Koray was comparably priced to some of the average doctors I was seeing in the United States but had a stellar track record over the years and lauded as one of the best in the world. I thought his results put him among the top FUE surgeons in the world. I also found Dr. Koray’s YouTube videos to be very informative (admittedly much of it was PR, but it worked on me), and I became convinced that manual punch FUE in a mega session with some sort of implanter tool (like the KEEP device that Dr. Koray uses) is what would be best for me. In fact, I feel I may have ended up with Dr. Koray regardless of price. Pre-Op Treatment: I reached out to Asmed in early December 2018 and booked for mid-February 2019. At that time I wasn’t under any sort of medication. After my initial discussions with Sema, I went on 1mg generic fin daily and achieved some actual hair growth in the crown and midline areas. Process / Surgery: Others on this forum have gone into specifics around the airport pick-up, hotel, and clinic procedures in considerable detail, so I won’t repeat that here. But what I will mention is this. The Asmed mothership on the Asian side of Istanbul probably represents the pinnacle of what a modern medical facility should be - impeccably clean, sleek and exceptionally designed to shuttle patients from a pristine operating room, to high-tech hair wash / cut and transplant design areas, to an inviting waiting area (where you are greeted with Turkish hospitality in the form of tea, coffee and pastries and live classical music by a violin-piano duo). Everything was thoughtfully planned and laid out, and the process struck a balance between being highly individualized (Sema being my dedicated coordinator and never leaving my side) but productive (which I welcomed - I wanted to be one of the many patients they have great results for). When other people on these forums talk about how Asmed is a world-class facility, it truly is. When you meet Dr. Koray in person, you soon realize that he is singularly focused on your hairline and achieving optimal results based on a plan that takes into account your donor capacity and anticipated future hair loss. My interaction with him was otherwise limited, as I had expected to be from reading the forums, but I didn’t mind that – hairlines (and mine in the moment) are his obsession, and Dr. Koray spent a good 20-30 minutes (and consulted 18 others – my wife counted them) to ensure that mine was the very best for my face. And in Dr. Koray's staff, I felt care, compassion and dedication to implement Dr. Koray’s vision for the optimal hair transplant for me. Sema, my patient coordinator, was knowledgeable, patient and attentive. Nabiyeh, the nurse who was assigned to me the entire time I was there, was compassionate and genuinely concerned about my wellbeing. The surgical assistants had unfailing endurance and nimble, precise hands – in another era, they may well have been expert craftswomen weaving a great Turkish rug but are instead making a masterpiece out of my head and hair follicles. (I would prefer their hands doing the harvesting and implantations over that of any 50-60 year old man, no matter his years of experiences or the number of degrees he holds). Results: I could go on here… but what will ultimately matter, more than anything else I've written here, are my results, so check this thread 12 months’ time and we can all be the judge.
  20. I would just say that 4 months with donor shock loss is common. I would agree with Jean in that if this was the case at 8-9 months, I would be a little worried. Dust78, I really hope your shock loss is only temporary. I also went to Dr. Erdogan and even developed necrosis. It was scary as sh@t but Dr Koray provided a free touch up and I'm happy with my result. I really hope you will be satisfied at the end of your journey
  21. Good morning, this is the report of my surgery made on November 20th, 2018 at the Asmed clinic of dr. Koray Erdogan. Starting from a very good situation I asked the clinic more symmetrical airline and to focus on the right temple. I have always had an asymmetrical hairline and a greater receding hairline on the right side. My situation has been stable for years (I'm 41). I left Rome on November 19th morning and in the afternoon of the same day I was visited by Dr. Koray who considered me fit for the operation with 2600 grafts. I did not request a lowering airline but I only requested an improvement in the hairline symmetry and reconstruction of the right temple area. Looking to my situation 2600 uf seemed many but of course in these cases you have to rely on the doctor, and so I did. During the visit I was drawn the airline and on the same day I was shaved to zero. The next morning I was picked up very early in the hotel and taken to the clinic where the operation began in a short time starting from the extraction of the follicular units. In the morning, during the surgery, team was stopped by dr. Koray to practice the incisions and immediately after the extractions started again. A short lunch break and in the afternoon work was resumed containing in grafts extractions. When extractions were completed dr. Koray equipe started implanting all graft extracted in the morning and afternoon. On 21st November, after head washing and doctor medical examination, i was taken back to the hotel and returned to Rome in the afternoon. I was really disappointed in no looking dr Koray during my surgery (he came only for skin incisions). also I didn't know that ,y grafts had to stay out from morning to evening before being impacted. Intervention details: Hair thickness: 56 microns; Grafts implanted: 2652; Treated Area: 55 cm square;
  22. Hello Ladies and Gentlemen! After so many years, I am finally taking the gumption and undergoing an FUE procedure with Dr. Cinik. I have been umming and arring for too long and after seeing some amazing results I decided to pull the trigger! I originally wanted to go with Dr. Koray Erdoğan but due to finances I am going with Dr. Cinik. His work has been well represented on several other forums and I've seen a few pop up here. I've been loosing my hairline since I was 18 and after 12 years of postponing it, the universe lined up for me to be able to make it happen. As an English actor living in Los Angeles, I live in a town where looks sometimes overshadow talent, so I have decided that I am going to take the best of both worlds and make myself as marketable as possible (with versatile hair). As much as wigs and styling have helped in the past, I am a point where my hair is constantly on my mind...did the wind blow? How does it look when I get out the pool/ocean? Is the camera picking up the receding hairline?. ..pretty much the all the thoughts going through everyone's mind on this forum! I am scheduled for approx. 3500 grafts, to the frontal third of my head, on Tuesday Dec 12th in Istanbul and I am excited and nervous! Looking at the future I am excited to see what it brings me with a new full head of hair, even if it's just confidence in the wind haha! I'll keep you all updated over the course of the weeks so that people can use me as a resource if they want. Attached are the pics that I sent the doctor, so you can see where my progression started at. I am fortunate that I have very thick donor hair, so I am excited to see how the grafts to hair ratio!
  23. Hi guys, I'm planing to do a FUE early in Jan, and based on my research up to this point, I'm about to choose between two surgeons; Dr Kaan Pekiner and Dr Koray Erdogan. Well, I am still struggling about it because of some reasons. There is no doubts that Dr Koray is one of the most experienced and a member of IAHRS (I feel it's a sign of trust and kinda important, but you tell me what you think), so no fear of something's gonna go wrong when you're there! But there are two big concerns; First the very high price tag, and the second, extractions are not done by him. So what's the point when everywhere you hear that "choose a place where everything is done by the doctor himself, not technicians". In fact, I did not find any other doctor who does the whole process himself but just Dr Kaan (please let me know if you know any other). The price tag is also less than Dr. koray as I have heard (2.5€ per graft not shaved!? 2€ or 1.5€ shaved!? 0.25€ off if you let your pics to be published!?). Please guide me through that as I need a serious, honest and fair help. I don't want to lose all my savings and all my hair for the rest of my life P.S. I'll post some picture of my hair situation later, so we can discuss how many grafts is needed to be plugged in
  24. Hey guys I started losing some hair in my early twenties, not a lot, but some loss on my temples and on the sides. I'm not sure if it was M.P.B. or just a maturing hairline. However, airing on the side of caution I started with finasteride a year ago. The hair loss has since subsided, which I'm happy about, but I would like to have the hair I lost restored. Furthermore, I would like to lower my hairline a bit, because I have always had a naturally high hairline(5HEAD). I researched hair transplant surgoens a few years ago. At that time it seemd like there was an unanimous consensus everywhere that Dr. Koray Erdogan is a quality HT surgeon. So chosing Erdogan was an easy decision. However, after I made the booking and paid the deposit, I have seen a few concerning results from ASMED on this forum. I have also seen good results this past year, so it's not like it has been all bad. However for the price I pay, I don't want it to be a coin flip. In spite of this, the thing that makes me confident to go trough with the surgery is the ASMED warranty, , which I assume guarantees a free touchup if you don't experience 90% regrowth(please correct me if I'm wrong). Hopefully ASMED has taken steps to fix their issues, so a touchup will not be nececarry. We will see. The surgery is in 5 days. I Will update this post with pictures and information once i get to Turkey. For those wondering, my ethnicity is 50/50 black white.
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