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  1. Hey guys I started losing some hair in my early twenties, not a lot, but some loss on my temples and on the sides. I'm not sure if it was M.P.B. or just a maturing hairline. However, airing on the side of caution I started with finasteride a year ago. The hair loss has since subsided, which I'm happy about, but I would like to have the hair I lost restored. Furthermore, I would like to lower my hairline a bit, because I have always had a naturally high hairline(5HEAD). I researched hair transplant surgoens a few years ago. At that time it seemd like there was an unanimous consensus everywhere that Dr. Koray Erdogan is a quality HT surgeon. So chosing Erdogan was an easy decision. However, after I made the booking and paid the deposit, I have seen a few concerning results from ASMED on this forum. I have also seen good results this past year, so it's not like it has been all bad. However for the price I pay, I don't want it to be a coin flip. In spite of this, the thing that makes me confident to go trough with the surgery is the ASMED warranty, , which I assume guarantees a free touchup if you don't experience 90% regrowth(please correct me if I'm wrong). Hopefully ASMED has taken steps to fix their issues, so a touchup will not be nececarry. We will see. The surgery is in 5 days. I Will update this post with pictures and information once i get to Turkey. For those wondering, my ethnicity is 50/50 black white.
  2. Alright....looks like it's my turn at the plate. Since I'd used this forum quite a bit when making decisions concerning my hair restoration surgery, I thought I'd share my experience with the community to help others make their decisions as well. My FUE procedure with ASMED was performed 11 days ago (December 17, 2018) and I had 3051 grafts transplanted. My progress and thoughts are described below. Online Quote I submitted my request for a quote on ASMED's website. This was a pretty simple process involving the submission of 12 photos (6 wet, 6 dry) from various angles and the submission of answers, on the website, to certain questions related to my hair loss, hair restoration goals, and medical history. Within a day, I received an email assigning me my patient coordinator. The following, day, I received an estimate for the total graft count I'd likely need, as well as the expected duration (in days) of the surgery and the amount of time I'd need to spend in Istanbul. A rough sketch of the surgical plan was provided, as well as a brief synopsis of what the surgery would entail, as well as the price per graft (2.5 euros) and information about the regrowth warranty. For those who have not done this yet, I'd recommend using a flash when you take your pictures. I didn't use a flash with mine (I used indirect natural light) and ended up getting under-quoted, as the extent of my hair loss at the vertex wasn't completely apparent in the images I had provided. Why I Chose ASMED I did a lot of research prior to making my decision. Out of all the reputable doctors I found (ones who were endorsed by the IAHRS, American Hair Loss Association, and this forum), Dr. Koray had the most patient results posted online, both by the clinic and by the patients, themselves. I had done an analysis of these results on one of the other threads by scanning through three of the online forums, including this one, and found that there was at least an 81% chance of having a good to great result, which was sufficient for me. There weren't really enough reviews of the other doctors to analyze them in a similar way with statistical significance. When combined with the cost of the procedure (which was relatively low compared to other top-tier clinics), dates of availability that aligned with my own, the 90% regrowth guarantee, ASMED's generally good reputation, etc., this clinic seemed like the best match for me. Coordination Prior to Trip While I waited for a few months between the submission of my deposit and my travel date, I peppered my coordinator (Muge) with questions about the process and procedure. For example, I asked her about: Methods of payment (including exchange rates, whether I could bring USD for the cash portion of my payment, etc.). You make an initial deposit in euros (maximum of 3500 euros) and then the remainder of the balance is paid in cash upon arrival at the clinic, on the consultation day. I was allowed to bring USD. To be honest, I wasn't very happy about having to carry thousands of dollars of cash with me (since I was kind of paranoid about losing it or being robbed), but, thankfully, I didn't end up having any issues. Information about my personal safety and the drivers. ASMED provides a photograph of their drivers, who pick you up at the airport, drive you to the hotel/clinic. All transportation to/from the airport and to/from the clinic is handled by ASMED. Information about accommodations. You're given the choice to stay at the Radisson Blu Istanbul Asia or at the clinic itself. I opted for the former, as the rooms at the clinic, as nice as they were, looked/felt a bit too much like hospital rooms. Also, I liked the 24 hour room service available at the hotel and the option to eat in solitude, if I so chose. If you choose to stay at the clinic, however, they provide you free meals throughout the day (you only get breakfast included if you stay at the hotel). Details about who would be performing the various aspects of the surgery, which was a point of contention on these forums. Dr. Koray performs the consultation, draws the hairline, and does the incisions during the surgery. Techs to the extraction and implantations. I discussed this at length with my coordinator and had a thorough understanding of how this would work long before I traveled; by the time I made the trip, I was comfortable with this arrangement. From what I was told, all technicians are required to meet specific, rigorous requirements (certain number of years practicing with the clinic, quality certification, etc.) before they are allowed to take part in the surgery. My coordinator was responsive, quick, and went out of her way to allay any of the concerns I had. She responded to me by email, phone (on the rare occasion when texting wouldn't be sufficient), and WhatsApp texting. Flights, Transportation, and Hotel I'm not going to go into detail about the flights, as that whole process is pretty straightforward and not really relevant to the clinic itself. Given that I'm from the US, I did need to get a travel visa to enter Turkey (you can do this online in advance and it costs about 20 USD). As expected, my driver was waiting for me in the airport arrivals area. He was holding a tablet with my name on it. The ride from the airport to the hotel was about 45 minutes (you cross from the European side of Istanbul to the Asian side) and I was the only passenger. The driver was friendly and responsive to my requests; he even described some parts of the city to me, as if he were giving a tour, during the drive. Additionally, water bottles and snacks were available inside the car. I opted to stay in the hotel for the reasons previously described. The room is comfortable and clean and there's a nice view of Istanbul if you're on one of the higher floors. Moreover, the hotel has 24 hour room service and a reasonably diverse menu -- this was a big selling point for me, as I was a bit self conscious about leaving the room with my head all marked up before the surgery and bandaged up after surgery. The employees at the front desk speak English, though the room service bellhops sometimes don't (IMO, they didn't really need to). The hotel has a spa and other pretty cool amenities, though I'll admit I didn't take advantage of many of them. In-Person Consultation On consultation day (the Friday before the procedure), I was driven to the clinic in the early afternoon. I was promptly greeted in the lobby by my coordinator, as well as a host who asked if I needed a drink or a snack (she did this repeatedly throughout the day). Two girls in the lobby serenaded the waiting patients with piano and violin. The atmosphere was light and relaxing. There were several other patients in the lobby at the same time, taking a break from various stages of the consultation. My coordinator sat down with me and gave me an overview of what I should be expecting that day, as well as on surgery day. After we discussed certain questions I had, she led me to various rooms for different stages of the pre-operative process, including a blood test and EKG, photographs, head shaving, etc. These activities were generally smooth and quick, though I had one small criticism -- specifically, that I had to wait for a while in the lobby for Dr. Koray to finish surgery before my in-person consultation. I was really jetlagged and tired at the time and it would've been better if I didn't have to wait nearly as long between the tests and the consultation with the doctor (like if they had timed me to come later in the afternoon). Other than this, everything was pleasant. When I met with Dr. Koray in his office, he greeted me warmly and introduced me to some of the other senior staff members. He came across as affable, jovial, and welcoming. As I introduced myself, he cracked a joke about the trend line from my analysis on this forum; at first, I was a bit taken aback that he knew I was the author, since I never actually identified myself (but I guess there weren't many American patients coming at the same time as I was). I sat down and Dr. Koray showed me the photographs taken earlier that day on his monitor. I showed him my own printed photos of what I wanted to look like (images of me from about 5 years ago), as well as pictures of my bald grandfather as an illustration of family history. Dy. Koray explained that we could meet my goal, but that I was, unfortunately, on my way to a NW6 (I'm currently NW3). He went on to explain that the degree of surgical intervention required would likely be higher than originally expected. As mentioned above, the photos taken at the clinic revealed noticeable thinning at the crown/vertex that wasn't nearly as apparent in the images that I had taken at home. The doctor recommended that I take finasteride in order to avoid having to come back to have the vertex worked in the near future (I was only quoted for a one day surgery on the frontal part of my head) and I explained to him the negative experience (i.e., side effects) that I'd experienced with finasteride years ago. He said he understood and that he respected my position, given that I'd tried it already in the past. I ultimately decided that I prefer to avoid finasteride (given what happened the first time I used it) and might come back to Turkey for a second round later, if necessary. I'll deal with the vertex when the time comes; this way, I'll have a chance to see how the results on the front part of my head turn out before I make any more decisions. At this point, the doctor took measurements of my hair and explained the calculation he uses to determine coverage. He then drew a hairline and asked for my thoughts. I was a bit picky with the hairline and requested several tweaks (including one small modification on the morning of the surgery) so that the line would match the natural one I used to have as closely as possible/reasonable. The doctor was patient with me and made the changes I asked for. After we were finished, and as I was getting up to leave his office, Dr. Koray turned to me and said something to the effect of "LordBaldwin, I can tell you care a lot about details, and so do I. I won't disappoint you." He went out of his way to reassure me; it seemed like he cares a great deal about making his patients happy. Surgery On surgery day, I was driven to the clinic early in the morning. I was taken to a small locker room to change into a surgical gown and was then led to the surgical room. The entire surgical area was very clean and organized (as an example, my coordinator had me change into a different set of shoes that they provided me as I entered into the "clean area"). In the surgical room, the team gave me a blanket and checked that I was comfortable. The anaesthesiologist asked me if I was nervous and I told him that my heart rate (which was showing on one of the monitors as around 90 bpm) is usually around 70 bpm. He nodded and injected me with a benzodiazepene and a sedative. I almost immediately relaxed. I sat upright with a head support wedged between my chin and my lap as the technicians injected my scalp with local anaesthetic and began the extraction phase. As they proceeded, they were very professional and repeatedly asked me if I felt any pain (if I did, they'd give me some more local anaesthetic). As grafts were removed from the donor area of my scalp, one of the technicians observed them under a microscope and counted, in real time, how many singles, doubles, triples, etc. had been extracted. These numbers were displayed on a screen in front of me. My coordinator handed me a tablet in case I wanted to surf the web or watch a movie. If I recall correctly, extractions took about 3 hours. We took a break for lunch, which the clinic provided. Upon returning to the operating room, I was told I could lie down for the remainder of the surgery. I was hooked back into the IV and Dr. Koray came in to do the incisions. I don't remember exactly how long the incision phase took since I was sedated and kept drifting in and out of sleep, but I do remember Dr. Koray working on me for some time, then shaking my hand at the end and mentioning that my circulation was very good and I'll be very happy with how things turn out. I slept through most of the implantation phase as well, up until the last hour or so. The technicians were methodical and quiet, and my coordinator, who sat across from me, assured me that everything was going well and repeatedly asked how I was doing. In total, the procedure took about 9 hours. After it was over, I was led back down to the photography room for post-operative photos to be taken. I was given instructions on how to do the post-op washes, sat under a laser/light follicular stimulation pod for a little while, and then was invited to dinner at the clinic (invitations for dinner at the clinic were extended to me every night I was in Istanbul, except for the weekend). Although I was only required to stay until the next day for the first wash, I opted to stay for an additional two days to recover a bit before I traveled back to the US. In the morning on each of the additional two days, I was driven back to the clinic for my morning wash (and some tea). Overall Impression Overall, I'm very happy with my experience at ASMED and would recommend it to other prospective patients (provided that they've done their due diligence and understand how surgeries are performed there). Since I had prepared extensively for my trip, I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to experience and there were no surprises. All of the employees were very accommodating, friendly, and attentive, and I felt well taken care of. The clinic itself was large, clean, and modern (ASMED had clearly spared no expense). A couple of other little pluses I noted: - On one occasion, I asked if the clinic had Turkish coffee (I wanted to try this since I didn't really get the chance to explore Istanbul while I was there). They didn't have it at that moment, but they actually went out and got it for me the following day! This was a relatively minor thing, but it impressed me. - On the last day I was there (when I came to the clinic for my third wash), Dr. Koray came into the room and asked me about my experience, making sure that it was positive. I told him I had enjoyed my time there, which he was happy to hear. The fact that he cared so much about my experience struck me very positively. Progress First, some hair characteristics... Hair thickness: 55 microns Hair per graft: ~2.44 Donor capacity prior to surgery: 8400 grafts Number of grafts transplanted: 3051 over 60 cm^2 Transplanted graft density: ~50 grafts/cm^2 And now, some pictures. Pre-Operative: Surgical Plan: Immediate Post-Operative (Day 0): Day 2 Post-Op: Day 3 (swelling is mostly gone): Day 5 (scabs and some minor cracking visible): Day 7 (vast majority of the scabs have come off): Day 10:
  3. Hi everyone - I've been silently reading this forum for the last few months and it was instrumental in my decision to take the plunge and get a hair transplant. Here's my experience and journey so far. Statistics: Age: 33 NW: High (IV/V, possibly emerging VI but that's my guess) Caliber: 60 microns Hair / Graft Ratio: 2.04 Total Grafts Transplanted: 5,621 Estimated Donor Capacity: 8,200 Background: Like many of you, I’ve suffered from hair loss for most of my adult life, have tried (and abandoned) various hair regrowth treatments and thought becoming bald was my inevitable fate. I only started thinking about hair transplant options over the past 6 months or so when I randomly came across some articles discussing the latest advancements (and horror stories) in the field and the relative inexpensiveness of operations in Turkey and elsewhere. I began researching the topic seriously and this website was instrumental in my decision to go with Dr. Koray Erdogan. In selecting Dr. Koray, I focused on three things - results, passion for the craft and price. Being a high Norwood with a family history afflicted with MPB, I needed someone who had expertise with large HT cases like my own. I cared about passion for the craft because, I believe, thought-leadership and innovation are indicators of success, and I wanted the best-of-class when it comes to a major cosmetic operation that could either be transformative or a major disappointment. Finally, it had to fit my budget... now; I wasn't interested in taking years to save up $30-$45,000 that some US doctors were quoting me. Before settling on Dr. Koray, I researched and consulted with other hair transplant surgeons. As a Southern California native, I looked into local doctors (Armani, Rassman, Bisanga and others), some of the other big names in hair transplant I was coming across (Couto, Frietas, H&W, etc.), as well as other Turkish doctors (Karadeniz, Civas, Doganjay and some of the low-cost options too, like Cinik and Maral). I had a few in person and online consultations with some of these doctors, which was helpful. Frankly, the North American / European doctors who had impressive results were out of my budget. Dr. Koray was comparably priced to some of the average doctors I was seeing in the United States but had a stellar track record over the years and lauded as one of the best in the world. I thought his results put him among the top FUE surgeons in the world. I also found Dr. Koray’s YouTube videos to be very informative (admittedly much of it was PR, but it worked on me), and I became convinced that manual punch FUE in a mega session with some sort of implanter tool (like the KEEP device that Dr. Koray uses) is what would be best for me. In fact, I feel I may have ended up with Dr. Koray regardless of price. Pre-Op Treatment: I reached out to Asmed in early December 2018 and booked for mid-February 2019. At that time I wasn’t under any sort of medication. After my initial discussions with Sema, I went on 1mg generic fin daily and achieved some actual hair growth in the crown and midline areas. Process / Surgery: Others on this forum have gone into specifics around the airport pick-up, hotel, and clinic procedures in considerable detail, so I won’t repeat that here. But what I will mention is this. The Asmed mothership on the Asian side of Istanbul probably represents the pinnacle of what a modern medical facility should be - impeccably clean, sleek and exceptionally designed to shuttle patients from a pristine operating room, to high-tech hair wash / cut and transplant design areas, to an inviting waiting area (where you are greeted with Turkish hospitality in the form of tea, coffee and pastries and live classical music by a violin-piano duo). Everything was thoughtfully planned and laid out, and the process struck a balance between being highly individualized (Sema being my dedicated coordinator and never leaving my side) but productive (which I welcomed - I wanted to be one of the many patients they have great results for). When other people on these forums talk about how Asmed is a world-class facility, it truly is. When you meet Dr. Koray in person, you soon realize that he is singularly focused on your hairline and achieving optimal results based on a plan that takes into account your donor capacity and anticipated future hair loss. My interaction with him was otherwise limited, as I had expected to be from reading the forums, but I didn’t mind that – hairlines (and mine in the moment) are his obsession, and Dr. Koray spent a good 20-30 minutes (and consulted 18 others – my wife counted them) to ensure that mine was the very best for my face. And in Dr. Koray's staff, I felt care, compassion and dedication to implement Dr. Koray’s vision for the optimal hair transplant for me. Sema, my patient coordinator, was knowledgeable, patient and attentive. Nabiyeh, the nurse who was assigned to me the entire time I was there, was compassionate and genuinely concerned about my wellbeing. The surgical assistants had unfailing endurance and nimble, precise hands – in another era, they may well have been expert craftswomen weaving a great Turkish rug but are instead making a masterpiece out of my head and hair follicles. (I would prefer their hands doing the harvesting and implantations over that of any 50-60 year old man, no matter his years of experiences or the number of degrees he holds). Results: I could go on here… but what will ultimately matter, more than anything else I've written here, are my results, so check this thread 12 months’ time and we can all be the judge.
  4. Hey everyone,I am 34 years old. My main issue with my hair (or lack of it ) is my deep temporal recession (as you can see in the pictures attached). The temples have been receding ever since I was 22. in the age of 26 or so, I have started to take propecia. the treatment pretty much stopped the receding and it is stable for the past 6-7 years.It has always been my dream to have a hair transplant, but because I am very sensitive to ppl and work colleagues seeing me after the transplant and with no hair. I postponed the hair transplant as much as I could. I managed to get 4-5 months leave from work, so I'm hoping I'll have some hair by the time I have to go back to work.Estimations I gotbased on the pictures I sent I got an estimation from Dr. Koray 3800-4000 50 grafts per cm2Dr. koray estimation was the highest from all the clinics I have contacted, but I saw it as a good thing - it's because he plans to cover more of the scalp with hair and for better density. given my current hair loss stage and the fact, the hair loss has stopped for the last 6 years - I was cool with his estimation. Choosing a hair transplant Dr I liked the results of Dr Koray, and I love his hairlines designs, as I like more relatively aggressive hairline (and not the "half circle", most sergeants do).Another plus for ASMED, is my great personal patient coordinator, Suzana. unlike other clinics, I got from Suzana very thorough and quick answers to my questions. she was very patient with me even though I had A LOT of questions. sometimes she misses a few of my questions, but overall she is super helpful, nice and provided me with all the answers I needed - And most importantly she made me feel like someone is with me throughout the process which is very important to me, As I'm doing the procedure in a foreign country.First day - consultationI arrived in Istanbul at 09:00 (12.3.19). ASMED driver waited for me at the airport as Suzana said he would. I checked in the hotel, which is located 2 min walk from the clinic. then ASMED driver waited for me at 12:00 to take me to the clinic (it was raining so I used this service ). Suzana welcomed me at the entrance and then I had some blood tests & heart rate checks. then I got photos of my current state. Afterward, I met DR. Koray he is a very nice person, he saw that my temples area was thin and asked me if I would like to transplant in that area as well to make it denser, I said yes and then he changed the grafts number for hair transplant from 4000 to 4300. he said that I have a good donor zone, and can reach 48 grafts per cm2, and that my average hair per graft ration is 1.9 (he wasn't far it was 2.13 according to his machine analysis). then he drew a hairline he thought is good for me, it was ok but I wanted it a little bit lower and the temples with a little less angle. he said we will consider it after the head shave - only then and after the grafts analysis he can know my actual current state and we will decide together.So, they shaved my head, took a few pictures (shaved) and then I went to this machine that supposed to count the grafts and hairs from the entire head.then we went back to DR he agreed to do the changes I wanted. in the room there where like 5 very pretty girls, he drew the new line (with the tweaks I requested) and each gave her input. the whole prosses took 4 min or so. then I looked in the mirror and was happy with that hairline. the whole prosses took around 8 hours (i waited for the Dr consultation around 3 hours) I got to the hotel at 17:00, with the hairline drawn on my shaved head. I should say that breakfast is served at the hotel and lunch and dinner is served at the clinic. operation day 1+2I got a really professional team (jasmin). I used the iPad they gave me as a mirror to see her work. she seemed very professional.I didn't feel the anesthetics at all and slept half the surgery.after the extraction (that was made by jasmin) i had lunch and got back to the incision part which is done by the Dr himself. when that part is finished jasmin continued to the implanting fase.the second day repeated itself.after the first operation day my face was doubled in size and after the second one, it tripled! I look now like a giant balloon.operation details1st day - hairline and temples - 2400 grafts.2nd day - 1929 grafts'density - 48 grafts per cm572 - Singels2733 Doubles900 - Triples118 - Quadruple6 - QuintpuleHair/grafts ratio 2.13pictures before the HT: pictures after the HT (swollen face): 2 days post op. close up:
  5. Sorry to muscle in on someone else's thread, but I noticed this in your signature, @HARIRI: Plug removal + Strip scar revision - Dr. Ali Karadeniz (AEK)- May 23, 2015 Plug removal + 250 FUE temple points- Dr. Hakan Doganay (AHD)- July 3, 2013 Scar Tricopigmentation- Dr. Koray Erdogan (ASMED)- May 3, 2013 2500 FUT (Hairline Repair)- Dr. Rahal- July 26, 2011 Given your comments here, were you not happy with the plug removal and strip scar revision Dr Karadeniz performed? I ask because I have issues with old transplant scars that I would like to have sorted (see below): ... and I really have no idea which way to go.
  6. Hi everyone, Had my operation on 10th of August 2018, taking Finasteride 1mg and Biotin. It's been 133 days and it looks to me that clock has almost stopped since day 80 or so. I'm still waiting for a significant sprout. Your comments are much appreciated. Pre Op Photos
  7. <<I WILL REGULARLY UPDATE THIS THREAD AS MY SITUATION PROGRESSES>> I promised myself I would type up a very detailed review of my experience if I ever got one done because I know how frustrating it can be researching this and finding the right surgeon for you. It’s a long read, but if you are considering doing this, trust me, is worth reading. BACKGROUND: 34 year old Caucasian male, Chicago native. My hairline had been receding for years now. Forehead got larger and larger. Then my existing hair began thinning progressively and I began to entertain the idea of hair transplant. I think that was about 2-3 years ago. RESEARCH STAGE (GRAB A POPCORN ?? While I was entertaining the idea of getting hair transplant done, I began checking out some YouTube videos. I don’t know but it looked terrifying to me. I watched a FUT operation video and I was like, hell no! Then I stumbled across FUE Procedure and was like, okay, I think I can deal with that. So, I made a couple of phone calls in the Chicagoland area. I was quoted some astronomical numbers and I quickly realized that getting an hair transplant done here in the states was not an option for me. I am an IL State Trooper and make decent money, but not enough to blow 20k into an hair transplant. I began looking into Mexican doctors. I figured everything is cheap in Mexico, so why not. Well, I began reading some horror stories coming from Mexico. Let’s say I killed that idea as well. I then stumbled across a video of a guy who got his done in Istanbul Turkey. I checked out some Turkish doctors and learned that Turkey was one of the biggest hair transplant industry in the world and prices were reasonable. I made some calls and narrowed it down to 3 surgeons: Dr. Hakan Doganay, Dr. Koray Erdogan and Dr. Mutallip Keser. I had bunch of other guys blew smoke up my ass, promised me that my hair would be like I was 18 again.. warranty certificates and all. I don’t know, they tried way too hard and it was a red flag for me. But above doctors weren’t like the others and their prices were pretty close to one another: Dr. Hakan Doganay - 2 Euros per graft Dr. Koray Erdogan - 2,5 Euros per graft Dr. Mutallip Keser - 3,5 Euros per graft I looked very closely to these guys and they had phenomenal results. I mean, I couldn’t believe how good their work looked. When I was talking to their people, they were helpful. Out of all 3 of these doctors, Dr. Doganay’s communications director Didem was very attentive. She answered all my questions. I mean I bugged this girl with the silliest questions ever and at random times, but she was always there to answer. Both Erdogan and Keser’s team also were helpful, but not as swift and effective as Doganay’s team. At least with me. Doganay’s price was also very reasonable. So, that had some weight of course and I was leaning towards him for that and some other reasons, but then I read a couple of negative reviews. It concerned me for a second. After doing further research, I began to read negative reviews about Erdogan and Keser as well. I quickly snapped back to reality. I mean, who has 100% positive feedback out there anyways? There will always be someone unhappy for one way or another. I looked at the bigger picture and that was, Doganay did a fantastic job overall, his prices were reasonable, and he certainly didn’t blow any smoke up my ass and kept it very real with me. Gave me very realistic expectations. That gave me a lot of comfort. Plus communicating with his team was very easy and effective. The LAST thing I want is to get this done by someone whom I can’t get a hold of whenever I need to. Screw that! I don’t care how popular you are, you cut into my head, I will have some concerns, questions, etc. I need to be able to communicate. So for those reasons, I decided to go with Dr. Hakan Doganay. TRAVEL AND MEET DR. DOGANAY STAGE: Hopped on a plane and Doganay’s customer service specialist Tolga picked me up from the airport. This kid was polite and a lot of fun. Short ride to the hospital and I met Dr. Doganay in his office. After the quick introduction, his first question to me with a smile on his face was “how are you feeling now?” I am assuming I loooked nervous as hell, because i was lol. This is my head people! Plus, I am in a different country. He quickly eased my mind and said it would be just fine. He checked my hair, said I had a very good donor area. Estimated 2500ish grafts because I told him I wanted a dense packed hairline and lower it down a bit. Drew a nice hairline and I checked into my room at the hospital. As a Police officer / State Trooper, I scope every area and people I walk into. It’s the nature of the job, so I checked out the area and it was spectacular. Very clean and professional people. The staff also appeared very sincere. I was starting to feel less and less nervous. Hospital room was awesome too. I felt like royalty! SURGERY STAGE: Shaved the back of my head and kept the top at number 2. Took some pre-op pics and walked into the room where they began harvesting my hair follicles from the donor area. One of their experiences technician’s names Ahmet began extracting the hair with a micromotor. Not gonna lie, I was kind of nervous. After all, I was there because of Dr. Hakan Doganay. However, I was told that Dr. Doganay doesn’t do the extraction and he has trained two technicians and they do it. They had been doing it for years. I was like, you know what, I am gonna trust this guy. He has been yielding great results, so obviously it isn’t done by some rookies, in a dump somewhere. Plus, Dr. Doganay was constantly walking in the room and chatting with us. The staff looked extremely organized. Everyone knew their roles and they communicated well. I couldn’t help but kept asking questions, and they answered very politely each time. I actually felt like I had been friends with this staff and Dr. Doganay for quite sometime. They were seriously very cool people. They extracted the donors and we began the implantation. Dr. Doganay densly packed my hairline and I reallyyyyy loved the hairline. It appeared very dense, for a hair transplant, very well placed and perfect, natural looking hairline. While implanting the hairs, I was chatting with dr. Doganay. I bad mouthed a couple of hair transplant locations that blew smoke up my ass. Doganay was like “I don’t like talking bad about other surgeons, don’t believe in it so I will refrain commenting on that, but there are lots of people who claim to be good, but they just aren’t”. Right there, I respected the man much more. Doganay said he extracted and planted maximum 2000 grafts per day because doing more than that would yield in not so good results. He believed the job was very delicate and had to take your time doing it. He said some locations try to schedule multiple people in a day and rush through procedures which yields in bad results. He said he had first hand experienced that back then when he was trying to get through multiple people, but quickly learned his lesson and began changing his approach. He has been taking his time on all of his transplants. Right there, I no longer worried. I was like i m good hands! Anyways, the job was done and I was very happy. Everyone was just awesome. The reason I am writing this so passionately is because these people were amazing to me. I felt like I was family or something. They deserve a detailed review. Heck, everyone who is out here researching HT deserves a detailed review. This is serious business! After everything was said and done, I made my payment and they drove me to the airport. I was well taken care of from the airport until I return to the airport. Anyways, something VERY BAD happened as got off the plane.. thankfully not in Chicago. I was still in Turkey. I walked into a restaurant to grab a quick bite and boom!!!! I hit my head to a low hanging wall.. it was the same color as the ceiling and blended very well. Didn’t see it. I hit right my transplanted area. Long story short, as I was bleeding heavily, I saw a ton of my hair follicles were stuck to the wall. I looked at myself in the mirror and a large section of my hairline was missing. Tell me how you would feel. I didn’t know if I needed to be angry, sad, cry, scream.. I was heart broken! This is the biggest reason why i m typing this long review.. these guys are INCREDIBLE! I called Didem and told her what happened. I sent her a quick pic. She acknowledged it was bad, but they would take care of it. I bought the next flight back to Antalya, which was the next day and business as usual, Tolga picked me up. Staff greeted me, washed the bloody area.. Dr. Doganay checked it out and was like big deal, let’s fix this up. Piece of cake. They extracted I think like 80 grafts and Dr. Doganay transplanted them quickly. I seriously could not see the difference. Like it never happened. best part, when I asked how much a I owed them. He was like, you have gone through a lot with this unfortunate incident, no need to pay. It’s on us. I decide to tip each staff member, so made a payment that way. I would never consider going to any other hair transplant surgeons, even though I know Dr. Erdogan and Dr. Keser are great as well, but not only Doganay was cheaper with the same natural results, also the experience was phenomenal! If you you have any questions. I mean anything at all, I would love to help. Direct message me or simply reply to this thread. Preferably reply here so everyone can benefit from the answers, but if you have some private concerns, direct message me. I plan on sticking around here and sharing my experience with others. Anyways, onto photos! Before, right after day 1 and after my incident and then lastly fixed version. P.S. I requested the photos they took and will be posting those as well:
  8. Hi guys, I feel that the amount of help I have gained from reading others stories on this forum that it is only fair I share my experience also. So I am 27 years old and I would say I am a NW4, I started losing my hair around 19-20 slightly receding and slowly going thin. Started using propecia from Belgravia around 3 years ago and noticed good gains and thickening, came off propecia to start trying for a baby and due to a combination of circumstances haven't been back on until 2 weeks ago. I feel over the last year and half my hair has thinned and receded since I stopped taking propecia. Around 9 months ago seeing my hair get worse I came to the web to investigate HT and came across this forum and have been reading ever since. I Chose Dr Koray from his results and peoples experiences with ASMED. I was quoted 4.5k grafts from my online consultation and I must say my patient coordinator Esen is amazingly kind and very fast at response to emails whatsapp, She answered all my questions and more. Im now at home 2 days post op and have swelling and slight itch now and then, note swelling going down slightly from yesterday. Consultation day - I travelled with my brother for support and also because he is interested in potentially getting a HT. we arrived at Istanbul at 06am 06/03/2018 and was greeted by the ASMED driver who took us to the hotel to rest until we was due to be picked up at 12:20. Worth noting here the hotel is immaculate and the staff working there are also very kind and helpful, if you have worries about people seeing you with red head then please don't as its so common that I honestly didn't receive one weird look the 3 days I was walking around or eating in hotel. Arriving at ASMED I was greeted by ESEN and the place is spotless and hygiene is super important I've never changed shoes so many times while I was there. Esen went through things with me and I mentioned I hadn't eaten much due to nerves so she had two toasties and juice made for me and also my brother. this happened a few times I was there as I am a bit fussy so they was also bringing me extra food and tea. I had my health check and pre op photos taken and then went to see Dr Koray. He discussed my donor and hair thickness etc.. and we drew the line, at first I was a bit gutted and asked him to lower it he was hesitant considering my future potential loss but we agreed to go slightly lower and I was very happy. He did mention I have miniaturization in my mid scalp area on top and crown and said the propecia i just started should help thicken this up again. Then came head shave and the final hairline drawn in permanent marker along with more photos being taken and then dropped back to hotel with my medication that Dr Umat gave me to calm my nerves. Surgery Day 1 I was picked up with 3 other guys all on their second days, I was extremely nervous and the guys calmed me down by telling me the surgery was easy and not painful, I tried to believe them but had my doubts. When we arrived Dr umat asked me how I was feeling and see my Heart rate high so gave me some extra meds to relax me, we then started. the injections commenced and I must say they are no more painful then a pinch each one lasting around one second just close your eyes and its over so fast and then you don't feel a thing, its really not bad at all. Extractions started and I watched Hangover 1 and 2. Dr Koray then came and done by incisions before lunch - some say this is hard for them as being held down but I found this the most relaxing part and fell asleep both times having this done. After lunch came implantation again injections to numb the area and then just relaxed and fell in and out of sleep while often asking questions to Esen who was with me the whole time I was in clinic, along with Susanna and Sema who was also with me one day each. at the end we had final inspection and i was bandaged up and sent upstairs for laser therapy and then taken to the hotel. I remember arriving to see my brother and saying I don't know why I was nervous and it was super easy. first day was the hairline and temple peaks so without any swelling I spent the evening admiring my new hairline and taking selfies to send to friends. Surgery Day 2 - Same as day one, only difference being I had my incisions after lunch and also had PRP treatment this day. With PRP they inject it into the top part of scalp and just rub it into the donor area, I was told its benefits of regrowth are not very clear but its good for healing. Also my Blood pressure went low and I remember DR Umat putting a drip on me and giving me extra meds - honestly some say this guy is a bit cold and scary but he's amazing at what he does and he spent each day with me having lunch and asking me questions. I Didn't find the second day harder at all like some, I think it was easier as you know what's happening and you know everyone around you. Same again I watched films and had a snooze now and then. the technicians are also very good at telling you what they are doing at each stage even showing you the grafts and also showing you the tools, for example they asked if I had seen KEEP before and showed me how my graft went into it etc.. I had Dilek come in at the end of each day and inspect before I was allowed to finish surgery. Again bandaged up and sent upstairs for Laser therapy. Esen also bringing me some toast and tea while I relaxed chatting. then back to hotel to see my final result. Post op day - picked up in the morning and taken to the clinic to see Esen who had many instructions to tell me about post op care, I was given a good washing and given my bag of goodies including my shaver that was used on me and USB etc... she also had a present for me a lovely box of Turkish delights. Honestly I must say while you are with ASMED they do not stop giving you anything you wish for. Im sure you all know by now they have a lady playing piano for you in the lobby and how hi tech their facility is. So after this Dilek came in again and had a look at me after the wash and said its very clean work and she was happy with the work. I bid farewell to everyone including a good farewell to Esen who was amazing throughout. I was then taken to the airport, it was raining so the driver held an umbrella over my head to protect me. I travelled home with no shades and no hat as you see so many others in the airport sporting bands and red heads that you just don't care, and also i didn't want to do anything that could impact my precious grafts! haha. I flew back to Gatwick via Turkish airlines and had 4 of us on the same flight that had hair transplants and every other passenger didn't even care to be honest no problem at all. only embarrassing part being my face was very swollen by then and I had a heavy head. now 2 days post op and the only issue I have is a sore neck from the neck pillow as I am a side sleeper and its super hard for me to sleep with the pillow, my pillow has remained pumped and hasn't deflated like some say? Chilling on my sofa writing this I have no pain and only slight itches now and then in the donor but have notice today swelling has gotten slightly better. Hairline on fleek my friends. Below il attach some photos from my USB given to me and a example of the analysis reports you get for your hair. ASMED are at the cutting edge of HT work and there is no guess work here I can assure you. Hair stats: Calibre 51 Microns Donor 9k Graft ratio implanted 2.27 total grafts 4521 Let me know if anyone has any questions. PS id like to say a big thank you to HG1 who I have messaged with my nerves and he has calmed me down and provided excellent advice along with his wicked write up himself that helped me a lot.
  9. I had a first procedure that was unsatisfactory 18 months ago with ARTAS robot by another surgeon so I decided to try again with koray Erdogan. I attached 2 pics of me before surgery with dry hair and 3 with wet hair. I got 2600 grafts today all in the frontal and temporal areas and tomorrow it's supposed to be 2400 in the crown. I have also attached a couple pics of my first day post oo.
  10. It's because of me, at first the estimation was 4500 grafts. It was too high for my budget and I have requested a more conservative hairline. Thanks to Dr. Erdoğan he accepted. On the other hand final result cannot be explained by this since the survival rate is much less than transplanted. I assume it's below 1000. So we have to analyze and find the root cause behind this.
  11. Hello everyone, I have a HT scheduled on the 20th of this month with the one and only Dr. Bisanga in Brussels, Belgium. My case is very small and based on the information provided to me from Dr. Bisanga's rep i will be only needing around 2000-2500 grafts. I choose Bisanga because of his outstanding reputation on this forum and his recognition around the Hair transplant surgeon community in general. I hope i made the right decision by picking Dr. Bisanga for this procedure. I also looked into Dr. Lupanzula, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Keser, Dr. Lorenzo and Dr. Vogel. Dr. lorenzo and Dr. vogel advised me to take Finasteride for now and to postpone the hair transplant because i am too young. Dr. Lupanzula said 2000 grafts and i am still waiting to hear back from Dr. Erdogan and Dr. keser My goals for this procedure are to restore my frontal hairline and add some grafts to cover up my balding temporal area. I am 28 years old, currently not taking any medication but i have ordered my first batch of Finasteride just for trial purposes to see how my body reacts to it. I am adding a few pictures that i took today, hopefully i can get some encouraging and educational information from you guys. Let me know who is the best suitable surgeon for my scenario. Thanks i will keep y'all posted
  12. . ASMED SURGICAL MEDICAL CENTER DR KORAY ERDOGAN - PATIENT'S AGE: 39 - NW: III - Total transplanted area: 60 cm2 - Total donor capacity: 8600 grafts * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital density: 75–80-95 uf/cm2 * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital Hair Diameter: 55-55-55 micron - OPERATION DETAILS: 3221 grafts FUE extracted by manual punch, diameter 0.6 mm (Internal) 0.7 mm (External). Incisions executed by custom made blades sapphire and lateral slit. Placed with K.E.E.P. * 605 grafts single * 1607 grafts double * 931 grafts triple * 78 grafts multiple * General average Hair per Graft: 2.15 - GRAFTS DISTRIBUTION: 2521 grafts were used to restore the patient's FRONTAL and MIDLINE areas. 700 grafts were placed on the TEMPLE POINTS. - FINASTERIDE: The patient is using Finasteride since the operation * Please note that the "RESULT" pictures were taken by the PATIENT. BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 7 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 7 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 7 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 7 MONTHS BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 7 MONTHS
  13. Day 206 (Month 7 minus one week): I'm happy to report that I've seen a significant burst of growth since my last update, and I'm now prepared to declare my procedure a success; at the very least, I'd rate the result, as it stands today, as "good," with many more months of growth to go for improvement to a potentially great final product (where no thinning is visible and it'll look like nothing ever happened). If I were to quantify things, I'd say the clock on my hair has been turned back about 7-8 years, which meets the goal I set with Dr. Erdogan. Additional growth will be a bonus.
  14. Hey Guys, in few days I will pass the 7. month mark and I would like to show you my progress. Actual I'm very disappointed and I hoped that my 7 month status would look much better. I notice a very low density in both temple areas. It could be lower than 15-20 grafts per square centimeter (Implanted density was ca. 50 grafts per sqcm). Another thing which disturb me are that there are many multiple grafts in the hairline. I think it tends to be a failure, but I would like to hear your opinion to my case. PS: Sorry for my english 😀
  15. Thanks Melvin, i get your point but i don't think my hair loss was too progressive for the last 3 years. If you noticed my hair style is very short now that's why you see the difference. Going for FUT is a real concern for me as i am looking to keep an option for buzz or shaved head. If i can have a well designed hairline with decent coverage in the middle that would be fine for me. Definitely i wouldn't touch my crown for now as i need to manage the use of my donor hair efficiently. Previously, Dr. Erdogan (top surgeon in Turkey) suggested 6000 grafts FUE but i am not really convinced with his plan. Do you think going for 3000 to 3500 grafts is wise at this stage and doesn't make a significant change cosmetically?
  16. I can strongly recommend only 3 clinics based on my personal experience 1) HLC ANKARA (EURO 2.7/graft) 2) ASMED by ERDOGAN (EURO 2.5/graft) 3) DR. CINIK (Exclusive package EURO 2500) Make sure to request the main surgeon to perform the incision slits to avoid permanent shock loss risks.
  17. Well the day has come for me to leave to Istanbul Turkey from The United States. It will be an 11hr flight so I'm hoping the seats are comfortable haha. I am a bit nervous but looking forward to 6 months from now when I start to see new growth. I will post before and after pics as the time goes on. This site has really helped me choose Asmed and be confident in that choice. Between 4000-4500 was my online quote, so I will find out when I'm there how many I will have done. Fingers crossed for a safe procedure!
  18. In my opinion there three trusted clinics in Turkey that I trust a lot The most impressive one is HLC clinic in Anakra (2.7 Euro per graft) The second one is the king of FUE Koray Erdogan (2.5 Euro per graft) The third is Dr. Cinik (Exclusive Package deal 2500 EURO) . The others hard to trust due to the change and rotation of nurses and technicians.
  19. @Bigjab I just sent you a PM but I'll sort of copy/paste that message here to help others. Anyway, as my friend @HLPToronto said I made an extensive research and I am a sort of mental when it comes to chose the best product or Dr. - Demirsoy, 80%+ of the cases present on here, turkish, german, italian forums are positive to very positive. He does one patient per day and perform himself the most critical parts of the surgery. Great communication with his patient advisor. Affordable. Contacted about 15 former patients privately, 14 gave an extremely positive feedback. - Bhatti, I almost went with him but lack of communication and his very bad attitude in his replies made me wait. Very low density in most of his cases. Too many marketing users everywhere, it looks all made up. Similar cost to Demirsoy. - Yaman, similar cost of the above two, very incosistent, some good job, many other bad results. He is a gamble. Can't remember if he performs the surgery about himself. Being a member of IAHRS or other associations from my understanding is just bullshit. To be members they have to pay a fee. What's the point? Being able to go to a conference once on every blue moon. On my opinion, it's purely marketing. Cinik, is one of those chep bets you can make. He is a gamble exactly like Erdogan but a least cheaper. If you are extremely tight on budget, maybe. I hate tech clinics so I am against it. I am not saying Demirsoy is the n. 1, in my opinion he is the n.1 in that price range. There are many other great surgeons that charge 5times more though. At the end of the day, my opinion is that the surgery is nothing astronomical, it's a pretty straight forward procedure, simple I would say. That is why I can't justify clinics like Hasson & Wong charging about 8times more than Demirsoy....what for!? I felt very offended when i got their quotation!!! They are good but honestly It is a mistery to me why patients go to them paying that price... Other thing, if a Doctor is recognised on this website/forum, it doesn't mean he's good if you know what I mean. Do your research, speak to real patients, that's the way. I hope it helps. Cheers
  20. Hi All. I posted this over at Bald Truth but it looks like they don't allow negative reviews as my post was not approved... I'll cut a long story short. A year on from my nightmare FUE transplant with Dr Rana Irfan at Vagus Cosmetics in Islamabad, I thought I'd share my story. I've been meaning to do this for a long time but haven't been able to muster up the energy as it's revisiting a negative time. I planned to visit Dr Koray Erdogan for my FUE and was making arrangements to send his office my pictures and information etc. A friend of mine said he had come across a surgeon in Islamabad who had a good reputation, whom he was going to visit. This friend (?) was very studious when it came to researching doctors (or so I thought) so I trusted his diligence - my mistake. Apparently this doctor in Islamabad was just as good as Dr Koray and delivered the same results. As someone who had intended to visit doctor Koray for years, I can only blame myself for not going with my own plan. I was due to travel to Islamabad early last year with this friend for an FUE procedure. To cut a long story short - my friend went first (last April/May) and came back saying he was happy with the procedure. When I saw his results about a month after his procedure he was already shedding but I saw implants in the temples that looked odd and bumpy. He said this was apparently normal and the redness and bumps would settle. There was nothing untoward other than that. I traveled to Islamabad with this friend in June last year for my FUE. Prior to heading off I spoke to a Doctor Hussain in Islamabad who warned me against going to Dr Rana as people were known to come back with serious infections. We thought this was a case of rivalry perhaps so didn't really think anything of it. Another mistake. I arrived in late June and was told the doctor could do 5000 grafts. I did think this was rather optimistic but would have been happy with 4000. The day of the procedure, I was taken to theatre and after speaking with the surgeon and defining my hairline, the technicians applied anesthetic after shaving my head. A while later the doctor arrived and started remove grafts from the donor area. After a brief period he stopped and started to create slits in the recipient area. The technicians started to process the grafts and the doctor disappeared. I thought there's no way that could have been near even 3000 grafts. After a long delay I asked where the doctor was and someone went to summon him. He returned saying he had to pop in and see another patient but not to worry, he was undergoing an FUT procedure so it wouldn't be long process. I started to worry at this point. My friend had the sole attention of the surgeon during his procedure and I was told the doctor didn't carry out multiple procedures on the same day. When the doctor arrived I realised that the technicians in the corner of the room were processing grafts for the other patient - in the same room as where my procedure was being carried out. This is not going to end well I thought, but by now I was not in a position to just walk out. Prior to the surgery I had blood taken for PRP - my grafts were to be soaked in the PRP while waiting to be placed. A technician came in with my blood and put the vessel on the table for the other patient and was immediately scolded by another technician. Can this get any worse I thought. Yes it could. The doctor checked on how the grafts were being processed and disappeared again. This time for a long time. I was told to take a break and eat something. After eating the doctor had still not returned. He came back a long time after and I was not very happy and let him know. I'm condensing the timeline here, but when he returned and started to carry out a second round of extractions the anesthetic was starting to wear off and I could feel stinging pain. During the extraction there was a pause. A technician came in and told the doctor someone was here to see him. It was late by now. I was lying face down waiting for the extraction to continue. After a pause and period of inactivity I wondered what was going on - I looked up and there was another guy lying down in the chair to mine! The doctor was injecting PRP for him. I was stunned. Obviously I objected (I wasn't in a position to do much being in a robe and half my head full of holes) and the guy left after the injections. The doctor said it's okay I've changed my gloves and I didn't want to go to another room to do the PRP and leave you waiting. I thought well firstly you did leave me waiting, and second, you brought someone into a live theatre when you should have not entertained any visitors let alone carried out a PRP session mid-procedure! By now I knew I'd gotten myself into a bad situation. After the second extraction it was very late and the doctor told the technicians to hurry up and start inserting the grafts. I said actually no, don't hurry up, can you please do it properly. The doctor disappeared and the the technicians had to pump me full of more anesthetic as the implants were painful. They commented that the slits were closing up and they were struggling to get the grafts in deep enough. One was planting grafts on the right side and one was doing the left. I don't believe the grafts were trimmed properly either. After it was all done, it was was around midnight. We had started at 11 AM. When I looked at my results I thought this looks different. I've seen many results and there is a dense packing of grafts with the obvious clots of blood. My grafts had clumps of skin at the ends. I was also worried that a long time had elapsed since the first extraction and the placement i.e. whether the grafts would survive. After the procedure some of the technicians washed my head daily (I had the procedure on a Monday and I left on Thursday). When I was leaving for the U.K. I was told by the office manager I did not need to wear a hat or a dressing due to dust/dirt as it had been over 72 hours and the grafts had set. I was told it's best to air my head out as much as possible. I asked for a discharge report detailing the number of grafts, etc. It listed 4200. This was nonsense as I later discovered. Now - here's when things really go south. When I returned to the U.K. just over two-weeks later I developed pustules in the donor area. I was initially treated by a doctor for folliculitis, but the antibiotics had not effect. I then paid to see a private scalp dermatologist who took a swab which proved positive for MRSA. I was treated with the appropriate antibiotics and it cleared up. At this point hair started to shed. The implanted hair around the temples was the last to go. There was also hair that did not shed and did not grow either which was odd. Eventually that hair fell out after over a month. When hair started to grow around three to four months later, I saw the hair in the temple area and even the top of the head looked linear (not random) and there were bumps at the base of the hair. I was told not to panic by Dr Rana and to keep using coconut oil. Apparently it cures everything. I eventually became more and more upset and the conversations took a bizarre turn where Dr Rana insisted that I would never find a doctor as sincere as him (I have all his messages) and the other specialists advising me in the U.K. were jealous. I reminded him a sincere doctor would not lie about carrying out multiple surgeries and if someone had traveled a long distance to see him, the least he could have done was to focus on that patient and not try to juggle more than one surgery. Things came to a head when, after seeing doctors in the U.K., it emerged the placement was rushed and botched (grafts not deep enough and were not trimmed properly - this was due to the delays juggling two procedures and a rushed attempt to complete the graft placement close to midnight). There are small bumps of elevated skin over the recipient area and temples and pitted areas as well. The donor area has been "butchered" I was told. Hair was even taken from "no-go" areas. I told Dr. Rana that unless he refunded my money I'd have legal action brought against him. According to Dr. Rana there's there's a quota of negligent procedures you're allowed if you carry out a certain number of procedures that went okay - he didn't say this but I'm paraphrasing... he agreed to refund my money but after a few weeks of stalling I had a Letter of Intent sent to him and he refunded half of the money. It wasn't even about the money for me - it was more of a gesture that he's not getting away scot-free. I still wish to pursue further action against him but I'm looking at the options. Fast-forward since then - I've seen doctors at two private clinics. I've had my case and results referred to Dr. Greg Williams at the Farjo institute for comment by the London Skin and Hair Clinic (I wasn't able to see Dr Williams in person), I've seen Dr Jensen (the chap from Embarrassing Bodies), Dr Chopra at the London Dermatology Centre (I've had a few PRP sessions with him) and I've seen Dr Shahmalak (Crown Clinic). I had a recent review with Dr. Shahmalak to look at a repair session for the disaster Dr Rana calls a procedure. It looks like there's not much he can do due to the donor area being exhausted. Dr Shahmalak said the amount that had been removed did not reflect was was implanted and that he actually contacted Dr. Rana about me and another patient and the response was dismissive - along the lines of well there will always be a couple of people with problems. Yes problems do occur but my experience wasn't an unexpected problem it was pure negligence and even fraud. Here's a list of current issues a year later: Cobblestoning Pitting Ridging - scalp area raised Repeated infections - unexplained still being looked at. Never had this before. Dr Shahmalak thinks it could be a buried graft but I've yet to get this under control Recurring pain in donor area and parts of recipient area Excessive trauma in the donor area - still becomes red and inflamed even a year later It appears not even 2000 grafts were carried out let alone the 4200 I was told Non-random hair placement Hair planted in the wrong direction in right temple area I have a ton of pictures I've taken over the course of a year. Although it's hard to catch some of the things you can see in a mirror with a camera, I've tried to capture the negative results as best as I can and the London Skin and Hair Clinic took pictures whenever I went to see them. I've condensed a years-worth of events as much as I could but it's still turned out to be a long post. The next steps for me are to stop the recurring infections (priority) and dermabrasion to smooth out the scalp. I then have to have the hair in the temples lasered off and then hopefully a repair job with Dr. Shahmalak (looking doubtful now). I'm going to either use SMP or go back to a shaved head with scar camouflage. If anyone comes across Dr Rana Irfan when looking for an FUE procedure run a mile. He still maintains all the specialists I've seen in the U.K. are wrong and in-fact "envious" of him. He claims to be an IAHRS certified surgeon (yes I should have looked into this myself and not trust my "friend") when I don't believe that's the case. His website seems to suggest he's certified by everyone but the Queen of England. I'll post an update after I've seen Dr. Shahmalak following dermabrasion sessions. And by the way, this "friend" disappeared at the first sign of trouble for me. Live an learn eh. The above post is a completely factual account of what took place with my procedure. I have all communications and messages going back a year with Dr Rana Irfan. None of the claims in the legal Letter of Intent were disputed by the clinic. If Dr Rana said well I messed up, that would be one thing, but to state your an "FUE guru" on your website yet act in such a cavalier and dangerous manner with patients while disregarding essential hygiene is insane. My advice to ANYONE looking to get a hair transplant done - if in doubt, walk run away. I've spent a small fortune on specialists and treatments to heal my scalp and I'm still not even done yet. Cheers.
  21. I am currently approaching 3 months after FUE with 4264 Grafts. I was not originally planning on making a post but decided I should as I have Fine hair (47 Mircrons) and was concerned going in that my donor hair would't be acceptable and did not see many fine hair cases and this board was instrumental in me deciding on Dr. Koray. I will not get into the details of travel and hospitality except to say everything you read about the level of service is absolutely correct. Everyone from the drivers to nurses are very kind and attentive. I was flying from the US so wanted to make sure I had the money required with me. I was going to exchange USD to Euro but was told the exchange rate would be good and they accept USD. Anyone traveling from USA should bring USD and pay in USD. The exchange rate they used was simply googling the current exchange rate and rounding down. There was no commission charged. If I had converted at my bank in USA they would have charged close to 5%. I was originally quoted 5000 grafts but after my consultation, Dr Koray recommended 4200 with 4000 in the front and 200 in the back. He originally thought I would get about 1.8 hairs per graft average. In the end, I received 4262 grafts and they used 400 in the back instead of 200 as my average hair per graft ended up being 2.04. (I was only charged for 4200) I will attach some pictured of various stages including more pictures as hair hopefully comes in. If anyone has any specific questions related to travel from USA let me know and appreciate any comments on my progress. As I stated above the quality of care is extremely high even more so than even USA standards. The only complaint I had would be the communication post opp was not great. I think one issue I had was my coordinator, Buqet (I thought Buqet was amazing) left to return to school almost immediately after I had my procedure so I was dealing with someone else who was taking over for her. I was very concerned with the scabs and getting them off and there were several days where I didn't receive communications when I could have used advise so If someone from Asmed is reading this post I would recommend having someone who is solely responsible for post opp care and questions.
  22. Here are some pictures: After haircut: After sugery: Day 2 - surgery: Ill keep this brief, might expand on it later. Didn't sleep anything the night before surgery, because of an interaction with IV medication and my pills. The day started with the extraction phase. The main technician had worked for Dr. erdogan for 5 years, so I was in good hands. The extraction phase was rather uncomfortable. There was little to no pain, except for whenever they injected anesthesia into your head with needle. But you had to sit still in a somewhat upright position. Extracting the 2000 grafts took 4 hours. The next two parts of the procedure were much more comfortable, since i got to lay down on the surgery bed. First Erdogan came in and made 2000 incisions into my forehead. That took him around 30 min I think. And after that the team used the KEEP tool to insert my follicles into the incisions Erdogan had made. That took around five hours I think. So total surgery time was almost 10 hours.
  23. Hi Folks, Long time lurker; My very first post here with the intent to share and contribute based on my upcoming surgery in India with Darling buds and most importantly “ My results “ in the next few months. I feel morally obligated to contribute at least something back to this community that offers : A worldwide network of HT experts, reputed Senior members sharing invaluable info, Top rated HT surgeons positioning their point of views and most importantly "real patients sharing real stories". Background Male in mid-thirties from Canada; NW 3 - Less/More. Past 6 years were dark and depressing. Living in a fool’s paradise; using Toppik daily assuming everything’s fine but somewhere at a deeper level; it continuously bothered me. Finally in 2019; I made the big decision to get a HT. This website is the main reason as to why I was able to solidify on my research, move ahead with a concrete decision and was able to find one of the best doctor (just being positive here) as per my checklist/strict criteria. Special thanks to the Creator of this website – Kudos to the brain that kicked off this humanitarian initiative as it continues to educate millions of potential patients like myself. Why Darling Buds India (I guess they changed the name to 5 Rivers Hospital ) This piece takes forever to decide especially for someone like me who spends gazillions of hours on the Internet/YouTube/Forums. I was always skeptical about giving my Head to someone to be operated; so consulted with many Canadian, American, European, Indian and Turkish clinics. Many reputed names like Dr. Rahal ( Known as the hairline king from Canada), Dr Acar ( Cosmedica Turkey), Dr. Erdogan ( Turkey), Aestimed ( Turkey), LA Hair ( USA), Qunomedical ( Belgium & German clinics), Dr. Cinik ( Turkey) and the list goes on……………………………………………. but None fitted my checklist in it's entirety reflecting 8 Key deciding factors that was prepared after extensive research for years 🙄 : 1. Max cost under 10,000 CAD ( 7500 USD ) for 3500-4000 Grafts to be able to achieve maximum density in my case. YES, I decided to find the best treatment within this range. IMHO, paying this much should suffice in getting you a world class, still affordable HT in today’s age with advanced Technologies, Globalization, the power of internet and competitive market. It's costing me around 9000 CAD ( including some expensive flight tickets) with Dr. Bhatti which seems adequate for the reputation he has or rather a steal ( not sure - will tell later) If budget wasn’t a constraint, I would’ve booked Dr. Rahal ( Canada ) who is local to me OR Dr. Baubac ( Alvi Armani USA) more importantly to save myself from the hassle of flying 20 hours one way, then drive to a different city, book a hotel for a week, apply for a visa, Take few weeks of vacation from work etc. Dr Rahal charges 8 CAD per FUE, most other clinics would cost the same in N. America for FUE Treatment. It’s costing me around 2.40 CAD with Dr. Bhatti ( includes all international/ Local flights, Visa, Hotel, Food, Cab etc.). If you compare Dr Bhatti's fee with his peers who fall in the same reputed arena of global doctors, I think most would sign this off as a great offering for hair loss patients globally. Eugenix quoted around 4 CAD per graft but it was for DHI method. They produced some great results lately and they are the inventors of DHI which is now adapted globally; goes to show that they are researchers also - very impressive. As of 2019, I think Dr. Bhatti and Eugenix should be compared as top players if India is the selected destination for your HT Journey ( My comparison below) I almost finalized Eugenix over Dr. Bhatti but then based on my research, took a U Turn : Eugenix positive aspects: 1. Biggest is DHI - OUT/IN grafts within minutes. Definitely better method as compared to Traditional FUE . I could only find positives so far, no negatives on DHI. It's hard to logically beat DHI method with traditional FUE; so no doctor should even try it IMO. I wish Dr Bhatti would offer DHI to his patients by now ☹ 2. Clinics are located in major cities like Delhi and Mumbai. No need to drive / fly again from major airport all the way to Chandigarh. Eugenix Negative aspects: 1. Some patients mentioned that they were taken for a ride. Eugenix Docs prey on foreign nationals; after or during mid surgery – Dr. Bansal asked for 500 more grafts payment as required and payment must be done during the middle of the operation ( insane); also no breakdown/reasoning was provided in the end. On the contrary, Darling buds has returned some fee to few patients to their surprise which is a classy act of ethical business in my opinion (hard to find) 2. Eugenix costs are almost double than Darling buds( quite expensive for many) but anyways DHI is more costlier than traditional FUE globally and if results are better with more graft survival rate, most patients wouldn't mind paying more. 3. Eugenix is run in a satellite office format, more than one location and hard to get a hold of prime doctors - Dr. Sethi and Dr. Bansal where as Dr. Bhatti provides a peace of mind with one location, one clinic, one doctor who is also the owner of that entire facility with 15 good staff members well trained under him in a peaceful non polluted city near a hill station. #3 was a critical factor in my decision to go with Dr. Bhatti In short, I would’ve loved DHI for best results but I settled with FUE for now Note: Out of thousands, This site recommends ONLY 2 surgeons from Turkey, 7 surgeons from India and 1 from Canada ( I was surprised to see only Dr. Rahal in the list, yes Hasson is there but they're again advocates of FUT ), so HRN really helped me short list 10 surgeons before making the final call 2. ONLY FUE for ME – My heart said a Big “No“ to a linear scar; doesn’t matter if some Doctors persuade you with somewhat genuine reasoning's to avoid FUE such as : FUE provides Less density, FUT offers more grafts and saves Donor area as untouched for future sessions, FUE is a blind process etc. Dr. Feller and Dr. Soni ( Medispa India) seems like the two biggest advocates of FUT over FUE and I agree with some of their explanations as it sounds logical. Dr. Soni really pushed me to sign up with FUT and said his scar technique is different. Promised that he will close it in a way where almost no scarring is visible . It was tough buying into that argument, additionally recent negative reviews about him and I finally decided to brush him aside at that point. 3. Doctor MUST perform the operation (No technicians) – I could only find someone as reputed as Dr. Bhatti who performs 80% of the procedures that includes Hair trimming (to feel your hair ), Anesthesia, FUE Extractions with motorized punch and Incisions. In Turkey where I was almost sold at one point, all operations are run by Technicians. Not a Plastic surgeon, no educational background/ competency level ( it's scary as they're known as the butchers of HT industry) I wish Dr. Bhatti would implant the grafts too ( not his nurses) for extra cost but I guess it will be a tedious job for a busy surgeon to sit for another 4 hours or so ....... Am I asking for too much 4. World class facility matching North American standards : with Heart rate monitoring, proper blood tests, blood pressure check up, spotless , Face coverings during entire operation and sterile environment. 5. Super microscopes and Magnifiers is a must ( Most Turkish clinics operate with naked eyes, when I asked they tried to sell me bull *&**** ) This is extremely important during all 4 phases of operation : Extraction – To make sure proper gaps are left in between grafts in the donor area and get the right angle before using the punch. Sorting – To count how many pure singles, doubles, triples and quads ( if any ) are collected. Incisions – To ensure least collateral damage, magnifier will show 6 x scalp surface so during incisions, holes are made at the right angle, depth and only on bald scalp areas ( not where you've some fine hairs). This should also minimize some shock loss in the post op phase. Implantation - Imperative to only use pure singles / baby soft hairs in the very first few rows of hairline and Temples. If by mistake, they implant doubles – it will give a pluggy look and I would rate that transplant as 50% failed right then and there. If during implant, nurses grab a multi - haired graft, at least microscopes will allow them to revisit to find a pure single graft and then insert it in the right spot. Joe Tillman's video is quite helpful : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeQ4ZvEHb7Y 6. Doctor should have a solid reputation on major forums, hair restoration network, should be well read, traveled, have some global exposure, recommended by Bald-truth, Spex and many other HT mentors like Joe Tillman. Dr. Bhatti checks all those boxes. Yes – there are some mixed opinions about him (and every other Top HT surgeon out there) but perfection is impossible to achieve; so I decided to just look at the bigger picture and go for it. 7. Detailed info, pre op care, post op care, regular contacts and supporting your patients in their hours of greatest needs is of utmost importance. Its well know that Dr. Bhatti, Shera ( his rep) , California would contact their ex. Patients regarding some concerns, would stand by them and not disappear. This was impressive. 8. Patient advisor should be genuine, honest and straightforward – So far, Shera has been awesome, friendly and taking care of all my minor/ major concerns. Always reachable, quick responses and a real time patient who has experienced the same Doctor few years ago first hand. In the long run, it helps to have a contact like him for small chats if need be. I will continue to share my Journey with Darling buds and also, highlight If any red flags are there. So far, I’m just one naive internet researcher in this field who talks based on theories and hypothetical situations, I don’t have any practical experiences yet. Assuming I've made a good decision by choosing this clinic (over others) and trying to keep a positive mindset hoping I will be in good hands is the only thing I can do now. One Sr. Member said it wisely – “For Dr. Bhatti and his staff ( or other clinics) 18th March will be just another day with another patient like thousands came before and will come after, but for a patient who’s been researching on this constantly day/night, it’s a big life event and 18th is one of the most important day of his life after which either he could regain his lost confidence or could loose it forever “ After all, handing off your head to someone for the entire day isn’t one easy decision I’ve seen members here supporting each other against doctors if results aren’t satisfactory. That speaks volumes and the main reason as to why I joined here to gain support from my so called “Anonymous hair restoration family” Dr. Bhatti's hairlines were talked about – not too dense? Any suggestions? Should I revisit this with him ? I don't want a sparse hairline but Not sure if this was an old issue (one -off) Also, I’ve not met Dr Bhatti for any F2F consulting yet or a video consultation, plan is to meet him a day before my procedure. So far, Shera is my driving force. I’m hoping for a life changing experience (like many others), regain my lost confidence and I always say “ Hope “ is something that brings us to these Doctor’s doorsteps. Yes finance and reviews are important aspects but we all hope to be treated in the best possible way during our special treatment day. A little daunting for me to fly all the way, get operated in a surgical room, holes in my head but I’m collecting all the courage in this world to get this done. Shera is helping like one true Samaritan If some of you are able to read this completely, my apologies for such a long note but this is the only forum where I am able to write everything anonymously and vent out if need be. My Journey to be continued……………………………………………………………………………………............................................
  24. Good to hear. Oddly, it seems that people are almost only ever interested in conversing on threads where Dr. Erdogan is in the title. Almost every other thread goes empty!!
  25. INTRODUCTION Dear forumers, Greetings from a fellow forumer and former/recent ASMED patient. It's been a while since my last visit, but a lot of things have happened regarding my hair loss (problems) in the meantime. Some of you could remember me as I was posting about my 3200 FUE HT journey with ASMED a few years ago. Since my last forum post in January 2017, I've undergone second transplant with the same clinic (and third in total) in the January 2018. Almost a year passed since my second transplant with ASMED (and third in total), so I decided to open a new thread to share my journey and result with the forum, as it is fair considering how much it and its members helped me in my hair restoration battles. Seems like a whole life has passed since I started to battle hair loss and jumped into HT chair. Unlike my former thread, this time I practically waited for my full 12 months result before posting anything, so I will present most of the materials and pictures through several monthly progress-themed posts, but in relatively short time frame. I hope you won't find unconvincing if this time I skip most of the details about my stay in the clinic/hotel, or the procedure, since most of the other recent Asmed patients described everything in their threads, as did I in my own old thread. However, I will point out on several details, because nowadays it seems that the discussion about ASMED practices is threatening to 'escalate into a full blown forum war' (just joking ;). I'll try to be as brief as possible, and if someone is interested in specific details you can ask everything via thread or PM. BTW, my old thread is still available in the patients results sub-forum (ASMED, 3200 FUE grafts in hairline and mid scalp, link: So, let's get to the point. In my old thread I mentioned several times that I was considering another, smaller HT to address my once severely thinned crown, which was stabilized and improved through continuous use of finasteride, and cca 1200 grafts from my first FUE HT with one Hungarian clinic (that HT unfortunately did not yield optimal result). However I was not satisfied with the amount of improvement, as it was still very see through in strong sunlight or artificial light, not to mention that certain longer hairstyles with such crown were looking unconvincing because of the lack of volume. I also mentioned that I was willing to increase density in my hairline. Honestly, there was no real need for that as my hairline result from the former HT with ASMED was nothing short of excellent considering the awful condition before 2nd HT. But hair greed really did struck me, and I couldn't stop debating with myself how it would look like if I add just a little bit more. Also, I wanted to be able to wear my hair a bit longer, in reminiscence to my hair glory days in high school (I was convinced back than that I have top quality hair, and was pretty much identifying myself with that particular image of a semi long-haired dude). Ahh those blessed memories (excessively exaggerated, ofc) I couldn't get my mind off! As my hairloss was and is pretty much stable due to the finasteride use, there were no real cons except for being conservative for the sake of future planning, finally I decided to jump into chair again! So, 3,5 years after my HT with ASMED, in July 2017 I contacted the clinic and sent updated photos for Dr. Erdogan's evaluation. That went smoothly, again I was considered a good candidate due to before mentioned factors, and Dr. Erdogan evaluated 2000 grafts procedure could be executed, with 1000 grafts for crown and 1000 for frontal part. This time, Sema was communicating with me as I was informed that my former patient coordinator no longer worked for the clinic. I filled in the forms, sent the 1000 EUROS deposit via bank transfer and booked the flight. My surgery was scheduled for January 18th 2018. First set of photos include pre-op consultation dry&wet pics:
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