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  1. Hey everyone,I am 34 years old. My main issue with my hair (or lack of it ) is my deep temporal recession (as you can see in the pictures attached). The temples have been receding ever since I was 22. in the age of 26 or so, I have started to take propecia. the treatment pretty much stopped the receding and it is stable for the past 6-7 years.It has always been my dream to have a hair transplant, but because I am very sensitive to ppl and work colleagues seeing me after the transplant and with no hair. I postponed the hair transplant as much as I could. I managed to get 4-5 months leave from work, so I'm hoping I'll have some hair by the time I have to go back to work.Estimations I gotbased on the pictures I sent I got an estimation from Dr. Koray 3800-4000 50 grafts per cm2Dr. koray estimation was the highest from all the clinics I have contacted, but I saw it as a good thing - it's because he plans to cover more of the scalp with hair and for better density. given my current hair loss stage and the fact, the hair loss has stopped for the last 6 years - I was cool with his estimation. Choosing a hair transplant Dr I liked the results of Dr Koray, and I love his hairlines designs, as I like more relatively aggressive hairline (and not the "half circle", most sergeants do).Another plus for ASMED, is my great personal patient coordinator, Suzana. unlike other clinics, I got from Suzana very thorough and quick answers to my questions. she was very patient with me even though I had A LOT of questions. sometimes she misses a few of my questions, but overall she is super helpful, nice and provided me with all the answers I needed - And most importantly she made me feel like someone is with me throughout the process which is very important to me, As I'm doing the procedure in a foreign country.First day - consultationI arrived in Istanbul at 09:00 (12.3.19). ASMED driver waited for me at the airport as Suzana said he would. I checked in the hotel, which is located 2 min walk from the clinic. then ASMED driver waited for me at 12:00 to take me to the clinic (it was raining so I used this service ). Suzana welcomed me at the entrance and then I had some blood tests & heart rate checks. then I got photos of my current state. Afterward, I met DR. Koray he is a very nice person, he saw that my temples area was thin and asked me if I would like to transplant in that area as well to make it denser, I said yes and then he changed the grafts number for hair transplant from 4000 to 4300. he said that I have a good donor zone, and can reach 48 grafts per cm2, and that my average hair per graft ration is 1.9 (he wasn't far it was 2.13 according to his machine analysis). then he drew a hairline he thought is good for me, it was ok but I wanted it a little bit lower and the temples with a little less angle. he said we will consider it after the head shave - only then and after the grafts analysis he can know my actual current state and we will decide together.So, they shaved my head, took a few pictures (shaved) and then I went to this machine that supposed to count the grafts and hairs from the entire head.then we went back to DR he agreed to do the changes I wanted. in the room there where like 5 very pretty girls, he drew the new line (with the tweaks I requested) and each gave her input. the whole prosses took 4 min or so. then I looked in the mirror and was happy with that hairline. the whole prosses took around 8 hours (i waited for the Dr consultation around 3 hours) I got to the hotel at 17:00, with the hairline drawn on my shaved head. I should say that breakfast is served at the hotel and lunch and dinner is served at the clinic. operation day 1+2I got a really professional team (jasmin). I used the iPad they gave me as a mirror to see her work. she seemed very professional.I didn't feel the anesthetics at all and slept half the surgery.after the extraction (that was made by jasmin) i had lunch and got back to the incision part which is done by the Dr himself. when that part is finished jasmin continued to the implanting fase.the second day repeated itself.after the first operation day my face was doubled in size and after the second one, it tripled! I look now like a giant balloon.operation details1st day - hairline and temples - 2400 grafts.2nd day - 1929 grafts'density - 48 grafts per cm572 - Singels2733 Doubles900 - Triples118 - Quadruple6 - QuintpuleHair/grafts ratio 2.13pictures before the HT: pictures after the HT (swollen face): 2 days post op. close up:
  2. Hey Guys, in few days I will pass the 7. month mark and I would like to show you my progress. Actual I'm very disappointed and I hoped that my 7 month status would look much better. I notice a very low density in both temple areas. It could be lower than 15-20 grafts per square centimeter (Implanted density was ca. 50 grafts per sqcm). Another thing which disturb me are that there are many multiple grafts in the hairline. I think it tends to be a failure, but I would like to hear your opinion to my case. PS: Sorry for my english 😀
  3. Alright....looks like it's my turn at the plate. Since I'd used this forum quite a bit when making decisions concerning my hair restoration surgery, I thought I'd share my experience with the community to help others make their decisions as well. My FUE procedure with ASMED was performed 11 days ago (December 17, 2018) and I had 3051 grafts transplanted. My progress and thoughts are described below. Online Quote I submitted my request for a quote on ASMED's website. This was a pretty simple process involving the submission of 12 photos (6 wet, 6 dry) from various angles and the submission of answers, on the website, to certain questions related to my hair loss, hair restoration goals, and medical history. Within a day, I received an email assigning me my patient coordinator. The following, day, I received an estimate for the total graft count I'd likely need, as well as the expected duration (in days) of the surgery and the amount of time I'd need to spend in Istanbul. A rough sketch of the surgical plan was provided, as well as a brief synopsis of what the surgery would entail, as well as the price per graft (2.5 euros) and information about the regrowth warranty. For those who have not done this yet, I'd recommend using a flash when you take your pictures. I didn't use a flash with mine (I used indirect natural light) and ended up getting under-quoted, as the extent of my hair loss at the vertex wasn't completely apparent in the images I had provided. Why I Chose ASMED I did a lot of research prior to making my decision. Out of all the reputable doctors I found (ones who were endorsed by the IAHRS, American Hair Loss Association, and this forum), Dr. Koray had the most patient results posted online, both by the clinic and by the patients, themselves. I had done an analysis of these results on one of the other threads by scanning through three of the online forums, including this one, and found that there was at least an 81% chance of having a good to great result, which was sufficient for me. There weren't really enough reviews of the other doctors to analyze them in a similar way with statistical significance. When combined with the cost of the procedure (which was relatively low compared to other top-tier clinics), dates of availability that aligned with my own, the 90% regrowth guarantee, ASMED's generally good reputation, etc., this clinic seemed like the best match for me. Coordination Prior to Trip While I waited for a few months between the submission of my deposit and my travel date, I peppered my coordinator (Muge) with questions about the process and procedure. For example, I asked her about: Methods of payment (including exchange rates, whether I could bring USD for the cash portion of my payment, etc.). You make an initial deposit in euros (maximum of 3500 euros) and then the remainder of the balance is paid in cash upon arrival at the clinic, on the consultation day. I was allowed to bring USD. To be honest, I wasn't very happy about having to carry thousands of dollars of cash with me (since I was kind of paranoid about losing it or being robbed), but, thankfully, I didn't end up having any issues. Information about my personal safety and the drivers. ASMED provides a photograph of their drivers, who pick you up at the airport, drive you to the hotel/clinic. All transportation to/from the airport and to/from the clinic is handled by ASMED. Information about accommodations. You're given the choice to stay at the Radisson Blu Istanbul Asia or at the clinic itself. I opted for the former, as the rooms at the clinic, as nice as they were, looked/felt a bit too much like hospital rooms. Also, I liked the 24 hour room service available at the hotel and the option to eat in solitude, if I so chose. If you choose to stay at the clinic, however, they provide you free meals throughout the day (you only get breakfast included if you stay at the hotel). Details about who would be performing the various aspects of the surgery, which was a point of contention on these forums. Dr. Koray performs the consultation, draws the hairline, and does the incisions during the surgery. Techs to the extraction and implantations. I discussed this at length with my coordinator and had a thorough understanding of how this would work long before I traveled; by the time I made the trip, I was comfortable with this arrangement. From what I was told, all technicians are required to meet specific, rigorous requirements (certain number of years practicing with the clinic, quality certification, etc.) before they are allowed to take part in the surgery. My coordinator was responsive, quick, and went out of her way to allay any of the concerns I had. She responded to me by email, phone (on the rare occasion when texting wouldn't be sufficient), and WhatsApp texting. Flights, Transportation, and Hotel I'm not going to go into detail about the flights, as that whole process is pretty straightforward and not really relevant to the clinic itself. Given that I'm from the US, I did need to get a travel visa to enter Turkey (you can do this online in advance and it costs about 20 USD). As expected, my driver was waiting for me in the airport arrivals area. He was holding a tablet with my name on it. The ride from the airport to the hotel was about 45 minutes (you cross from the European side of Istanbul to the Asian side) and I was the only passenger. The driver was friendly and responsive to my requests; he even described some parts of the city to me, as if he were giving a tour, during the drive. Additionally, water bottles and snacks were available inside the car. I opted to stay in the hotel for the reasons previously described. The room is comfortable and clean and there's a nice view of Istanbul if you're on one of the higher floors. Moreover, the hotel has 24 hour room service and a reasonably diverse menu -- this was a big selling point for me, as I was a bit self conscious about leaving the room with my head all marked up before the surgery and bandaged up after surgery. The employees at the front desk speak English, though the room service bellhops sometimes don't (IMO, they didn't really need to). The hotel has a spa and other pretty cool amenities, though I'll admit I didn't take advantage of many of them. In-Person Consultation On consultation day (the Friday before the procedure), I was driven to the clinic in the early afternoon. I was promptly greeted in the lobby by my coordinator, as well as a host who asked if I needed a drink or a snack (she did this repeatedly throughout the day). Two girls in the lobby serenaded the waiting patients with piano and violin. The atmosphere was light and relaxing. There were several other patients in the lobby at the same time, taking a break from various stages of the consultation. My coordinator sat down with me and gave me an overview of what I should be expecting that day, as well as on surgery day. After we discussed certain questions I had, she led me to various rooms for different stages of the pre-operative process, including a blood test and EKG, photographs, head shaving, etc. These activities were generally smooth and quick, though I had one small criticism -- specifically, that I had to wait for a while in the lobby for Dr. Koray to finish surgery before my in-person consultation. I was really jetlagged and tired at the time and it would've been better if I didn't have to wait nearly as long between the tests and the consultation with the doctor (like if they had timed me to come later in the afternoon). Other than this, everything was pleasant. When I met with Dr. Koray in his office, he greeted me warmly and introduced me to some of the other senior staff members. He came across as affable, jovial, and welcoming. As I introduced myself, he cracked a joke about the trend line from my analysis on this forum; at first, I was a bit taken aback that he knew I was the author, since I never actually identified myself (but I guess there weren't many American patients coming at the same time as I was). I sat down and Dr. Koray showed me the photographs taken earlier that day on his monitor. I showed him my own printed photos of what I wanted to look like (images of me from about 5 years ago), as well as pictures of my bald grandfather as an illustration of family history. Dy. Koray explained that we could meet my goal, but that I was, unfortunately, on my way to a NW6 (I'm currently NW3). He went on to explain that the degree of surgical intervention required would likely be higher than originally expected. As mentioned above, the photos taken at the clinic revealed noticeable thinning at the crown/vertex that wasn't nearly as apparent in the images that I had taken at home. The doctor recommended that I take finasteride in order to avoid having to come back to have the vertex worked in the near future (I was only quoted for a one day surgery on the frontal part of my head) and I explained to him the negative experience (i.e., side effects) that I'd experienced with finasteride years ago. He said he understood and that he respected my position, given that I'd tried it already in the past. I ultimately decided that I prefer to avoid finasteride (given what happened the first time I used it) and might come back to Turkey for a second round later, if necessary. I'll deal with the vertex when the time comes; this way, I'll have a chance to see how the results on the front part of my head turn out before I make any more decisions. At this point, the doctor took measurements of my hair and explained the calculation he uses to determine coverage. He then drew a hairline and asked for my thoughts. I was a bit picky with the hairline and requested several tweaks (including one small modification on the morning of the surgery) so that the line would match the natural one I used to have as closely as possible/reasonable. The doctor was patient with me and made the changes I asked for. After we were finished, and as I was getting up to leave his office, Dr. Koray turned to me and said something to the effect of "LordBaldwin, I can tell you care a lot about details, and so do I. I won't disappoint you." He went out of his way to reassure me; it seemed like he cares a great deal about making his patients happy. Surgery On surgery day, I was driven to the clinic early in the morning. I was taken to a small locker room to change into a surgical gown and was then led to the surgical room. The entire surgical area was very clean and organized (as an example, my coordinator had me change into a different set of shoes that they provided me as I entered into the "clean area"). In the surgical room, the team gave me a blanket and checked that I was comfortable. The anaesthesiologist asked me if I was nervous and I told him that my heart rate (which was showing on one of the monitors as around 90 bpm) is usually around 70 bpm. He nodded and injected me with a benzodiazepene and a sedative. I almost immediately relaxed. I sat upright with a head support wedged between my chin and my lap as the technicians injected my scalp with local anaesthetic and began the extraction phase. As they proceeded, they were very professional and repeatedly asked me if I felt any pain (if I did, they'd give me some more local anaesthetic). As grafts were removed from the donor area of my scalp, one of the technicians observed them under a microscope and counted, in real time, how many singles, doubles, triples, etc. had been extracted. These numbers were displayed on a screen in front of me. My coordinator handed me a tablet in case I wanted to surf the web or watch a movie. If I recall correctly, extractions took about 3 hours. We took a break for lunch, which the clinic provided. Upon returning to the operating room, I was told I could lie down for the remainder of the surgery. I was hooked back into the IV and Dr. Koray came in to do the incisions. I don't remember exactly how long the incision phase took since I was sedated and kept drifting in and out of sleep, but I do remember Dr. Koray working on me for some time, then shaking my hand at the end and mentioning that my circulation was very good and I'll be very happy with how things turn out. I slept through most of the implantation phase as well, up until the last hour or so. The technicians were methodical and quiet, and my coordinator, who sat across from me, assured me that everything was going well and repeatedly asked how I was doing. In total, the procedure took about 9 hours. After it was over, I was led back down to the photography room for post-operative photos to be taken. I was given instructions on how to do the post-op washes, sat under a laser/light follicular stimulation pod for a little while, and then was invited to dinner at the clinic (invitations for dinner at the clinic were extended to me every night I was in Istanbul, except for the weekend). Although I was only required to stay until the next day for the first wash, I opted to stay for an additional two days to recover a bit before I traveled back to the US. In the morning on each of the additional two days, I was driven back to the clinic for my morning wash (and some tea). Overall Impression Overall, I'm very happy with my experience at ASMED and would recommend it to other prospective patients (provided that they've done their due diligence and understand how surgeries are performed there). Since I had prepared extensively for my trip, I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to experience and there were no surprises. All of the employees were very accommodating, friendly, and attentive, and I felt well taken care of. The clinic itself was large, clean, and modern (ASMED had clearly spared no expense). A couple of other little pluses I noted: - On one occasion, I asked if the clinic had Turkish coffee (I wanted to try this since I didn't really get the chance to explore Istanbul while I was there). They didn't have it at that moment, but they actually went out and got it for me the following day! This was a relatively minor thing, but it impressed me. - On the last day I was there (when I came to the clinic for my third wash), Dr. Koray came into the room and asked me about my experience, making sure that it was positive. I told him I had enjoyed my time there, which he was happy to hear. The fact that he cared so much about my experience struck me very positively. Progress First, some hair characteristics... Hair thickness: 55 microns Hair per graft: ~2.44 Donor capacity prior to surgery: 8400 grafts Number of grafts transplanted: 3051 over 60 cm^2 Transplanted graft density: ~50 grafts/cm^2 And now, some pictures. Pre-Operative: Surgical Plan: Immediate Post-Operative (Day 0): Day 2 Post-Op: Day 3 (swelling is mostly gone): Day 5 (scabs and some minor cracking visible): Day 7 (vast majority of the scabs have come off): Day 10:
  4. I had my surgery at ASMED last week. Everything went great while I was there but then again it's only the results that ultimately matter which I won't know for another 8-12 months. . I should have asked to doctor what he thought about all these people complaining. It certainly makes me nervous for my results. I wonder to what degree it is affecting potential ASMED customers from not going there. I would think Dr. Erdogan would try to interject in some of these posts to make it look like he cares.
  5. Ok so I don’t know if anyone else has ever had this problem, but I still feel like my donor area isn’t fully healed. My donor area feels SLIGHTLY different than the rest of my head, is this normal? The difference is so very minimal that I feel like I’m crazy for even asking. My post-op went very well, and I did not have any out of the ordinary swelling/pain during my procedure. I do however feel an ever so slight irritation, like when you take a hat off your head and it’s slightly itchy. My Doctor (Dr. Nader) told me to use a neutrogena acne face wash, and that it would take care of it. I use it once in a while, but not extremely consistently. I’m going to have a second procedure done with Dr. Erdogan later this year, but want to make sure that this issue will fully resolve itself before I do. Anyone else have this issue or can recommend a solution? Like I said, it’s nothing major, but I’m OCD and I feel like it’s something I’d like an answer to. Thanks, Ryan
  6. Hi Folks, Long time lurker; My very first post here with the intent to share and contribute based on my upcoming surgery in India with Darling buds and most importantly “ My results “ in the next few months. I feel morally obligated to contribute at least something back to this community that offers : A worldwide network of HT experts, reputed Senior members sharing invaluable info, Top rated HT surgeons positioning their point of views and most importantly "real patients sharing real stories". Background Male in mid-thirties from Canada; NW 3 - Less/More. Past 6 years were dark and depressing. Living in a fool’s paradise; using Toppik daily assuming everything’s fine but somewhere at a deeper level; it continuously bothered me. Finally in 2019; I made the big decision to get a HT. This website is the main reason as to why I was able to solidify on my research, move ahead with a concrete decision and was able to find one of the best doctor (just being positive here) as per my checklist/strict criteria. Special thanks to the Creator of this website – Kudos to the brain that kicked off this humanitarian initiative as it continues to educate millions of potential patients like myself. Why Darling Buds India (I guess they changed the name to 5 Rivers Hospital ) This piece takes forever to decide especially for someone like me who spends gazillions of hours on the Internet/YouTube/Forums. I was always skeptical about giving my Head to someone to be operated; so consulted with many Canadian, American, European, Indian and Turkish clinics. Many reputed names like Dr. Rahal ( Known as the hairline king from Canada), Dr Acar ( Cosmedica Turkey), Dr. Erdogan ( Turkey), Aestimed ( Turkey), LA Hair ( USA), Qunomedical ( Belgium & German clinics), Dr. Cinik ( Turkey) and the list goes on……………………………………………. but None fitted my checklist in it's entirety reflecting 8 Key deciding factors that was prepared after extensive research for years 🙄 : 1. Max cost under 10,000 CAD ( 7500 USD ) for 3500-4000 Grafts to be able to achieve maximum density in my case. YES, I decided to find the best treatment within this range. IMHO, paying this much should suffice in getting you a world class, still affordable HT in today’s age with advanced Technologies, Globalization, the power of internet and competitive market. It's costing me around 9000 CAD ( including some expensive flight tickets) with Dr. Bhatti which seems adequate for the reputation he has or rather a steal ( not sure - will tell later) If budget wasn’t a constraint, I would’ve booked Dr. Rahal ( Canada ) who is local to me OR Dr. Baubac ( Alvi Armani USA) more importantly to save myself from the hassle of flying 20 hours one way, then drive to a different city, book a hotel for a week, apply for a visa, Take few weeks of vacation from work etc. Dr Rahal charges 8 CAD per FUE, most other clinics would cost the same in N. America for FUE Treatment. It’s costing me around 2.40 CAD with Dr. Bhatti ( includes all international/ Local flights, Visa, Hotel, Food, Cab etc.). If you compare Dr Bhatti's fee with his peers who fall in the same reputed arena of global doctors, I think most would sign this off as a great offering for hair loss patients globally. Eugenix quoted around 4 CAD per graft but it was for DHI method. They produced some great results lately and they are the inventors of DHI which is now adapted globally; goes to show that they are researchers also - very impressive. As of 2019, I think Dr. Bhatti and Eugenix should be compared as top players if India is the selected destination for your HT Journey ( My comparison below) I almost finalized Eugenix over Dr. Bhatti but then based on my research, took a U Turn : Eugenix positive aspects: 1. Biggest is DHI - OUT/IN grafts within minutes. Definitely better method as compared to Traditional FUE . I could only find positives so far, no negatives on DHI. It's hard to logically beat DHI method with traditional FUE; so no doctor should even try it IMO. I wish Dr Bhatti would offer DHI to his patients by now ☹ 2. Clinics are located in major cities like Delhi and Mumbai. No need to drive / fly again from major airport all the way to Chandigarh. Eugenix Negative aspects: 1. Some patients mentioned that they were taken for a ride. Eugenix Docs prey on foreign nationals; after or during mid surgery – Dr. Bansal asked for 500 more grafts payment as required and payment must be done during the middle of the operation ( insane); also no breakdown/reasoning was provided in the end. On the contrary, Darling buds has returned some fee to few patients to their surprise which is a classy act of ethical business in my opinion (hard to find) 2. Eugenix costs are almost double than Darling buds( quite expensive for many) but anyways DHI is more costlier than traditional FUE globally and if results are better with more graft survival rate, most patients wouldn't mind paying more. 3. Eugenix is run in a satellite office format, more than one location and hard to get a hold of prime doctors - Dr. Sethi and Dr. Bansal where as Dr. Bhatti provides a peace of mind with one location, one clinic, one doctor who is also the owner of that entire facility with 15 good staff members well trained under him in a peaceful non polluted city near a hill station. #3 was a critical factor in my decision to go with Dr. Bhatti In short, I would’ve loved DHI for best results but I settled with FUE for now Note: Out of thousands, This site recommends ONLY 2 surgeons from Turkey, 7 surgeons from India and 1 from Canada ( I was surprised to see only Dr. Rahal in the list, yes Hasson is there but they're again advocates of FUT ), so HRN really helped me short list 10 surgeons before making the final call 2. ONLY FUE for ME – My heart said a Big “No“ to a linear scar; doesn’t matter if some Doctors persuade you with somewhat genuine reasoning's to avoid FUE such as : FUE provides Less density, FUT offers more grafts and saves Donor area as untouched for future sessions, FUE is a blind process etc. Dr. Feller and Dr. Soni ( Medispa India) seems like the two biggest advocates of FUT over FUE and I agree with some of their explanations as it sounds logical. Dr. Soni really pushed me to sign up with FUT and said his scar technique is different. Promised that he will close it in a way where almost no scarring is visible . It was tough buying into that argument, additionally recent negative reviews about him and I finally decided to brush him aside at that point. 3. Doctor MUST perform the operation (No technicians) – I could only find someone as reputed as Dr. Bhatti who performs 80% of the procedures that includes Hair trimming (to feel your hair ), Anesthesia, FUE Extractions with motorized punch and Incisions. In Turkey where I was almost sold at one point, all operations are run by Technicians. Not a Plastic surgeon, no educational background/ competency level ( it's scary as they're known as the butchers of HT industry) I wish Dr. Bhatti would implant the grafts too ( not his nurses) for extra cost but I guess it will be a tedious job for a busy surgeon to sit for another 4 hours or so ....... Am I asking for too much 4. World class facility matching North American standards : with Heart rate monitoring, proper blood tests, blood pressure check up, spotless , Face coverings during entire operation and sterile environment. 5. Super microscopes and Magnifiers is a must ( Most Turkish clinics operate with naked eyes, when I asked they tried to sell me bull *&**** ) This is extremely important during all 4 phases of operation : Extraction – To make sure proper gaps are left in between grafts in the donor area and get the right angle before using the punch. Sorting – To count how many pure singles, doubles, triples and quads ( if any ) are collected. Incisions – To ensure least collateral damage, magnifier will show 6 x scalp surface so during incisions, holes are made at the right angle, depth and only on bald scalp areas ( not where you've some fine hairs). This should also minimize some shock loss in the post op phase. Implantation - Imperative to only use pure singles / baby soft hairs in the very first few rows of hairline and Temples. If by mistake, they implant doubles – it will give a pluggy look and I would rate that transplant as 50% failed right then and there. If during implant, nurses grab a multi - haired graft, at least microscopes will allow them to revisit to find a pure single graft and then insert it in the right spot. Joe Tillman's video is quite helpful : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeQ4ZvEHb7Y 6. Doctor should have a solid reputation on major forums, hair restoration network, should be well read, traveled, have some global exposure, recommended by Bald-truth, Spex and many other HT mentors like Joe Tillman. Dr. Bhatti checks all those boxes. Yes – there are some mixed opinions about him (and every other Top HT surgeon out there) but perfection is impossible to achieve; so I decided to just look at the bigger picture and go for it. 7. Detailed info, pre op care, post op care, regular contacts and supporting your patients in their hours of greatest needs is of utmost importance. Its well know that Dr. Bhatti, Shera ( his rep) , California would contact their ex. Patients regarding some concerns, would stand by them and not disappear. This was impressive. 8. Patient advisor should be genuine, honest and straightforward – So far, Shera has been awesome, friendly and taking care of all my minor/ major concerns. Always reachable, quick responses and a real time patient who has experienced the same Doctor few years ago first hand. In the long run, it helps to have a contact like him for small chats if need be. I will continue to share my Journey with Darling buds and also, highlight If any red flags are there. So far, I’m just one naive internet researcher in this field who talks based on theories and hypothetical situations, I don’t have any practical experiences yet. Assuming I've made a good decision by choosing this clinic (over others) and trying to keep a positive mindset hoping I will be in good hands is the only thing I can do now. One Sr. Member said it wisely – “For Dr. Bhatti and his staff ( or other clinics) 18th March will be just another day with another patient like thousands came before and will come after, but for a patient who’s been researching on this constantly day/night, it’s a big life event and 18th is one of the most important day of his life after which either he could regain his lost confidence or could loose it forever “ After all, handing off your head to someone for the entire day isn’t one easy decision I’ve seen members here supporting each other against doctors if results aren’t satisfactory. That speaks volumes and the main reason as to why I joined here to gain support from my so called “Anonymous hair restoration family” Dr. Bhatti's hairlines were talked about – not too dense? Any suggestions? Should I revisit this with him ? I don't want a sparse hairline but Not sure if this was an old issue (one -off) Also, I’ve not met Dr Bhatti for any F2F consulting yet or a video consultation, plan is to meet him a day before my procedure. So far, Shera is my driving force. I’m hoping for a life changing experience (like many others), regain my lost confidence and I always say “ Hope “ is something that brings us to these Doctor’s doorsteps. Yes finance and reviews are important aspects but we all hope to be treated in the best possible way during our special treatment day. A little daunting for me to fly all the way, get operated in a surgical room, holes in my head but I’m collecting all the courage in this world to get this done. Shera is helping like one true Samaritan If some of you are able to read this completely, my apologies for such a long note but this is the only forum where I am able to write everything anonymously and vent out if need be. My Journey to be continued……………………………………………………………………………………............................................
  7. This is a thread documenting my recent 2612 graft FUE procedure with Dr. Rahal. I'm a NW3A in his late twenties/early thirties who has battled hair loss over the past few years. I've done the big three more or less consistently over the past few years and finally bit the bullet on doing a procedure after some bad experiences at work and with women that convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt how important having hair really is. After doing some research last year I finally settled for Rahal. The Procedure As the thread says, I did a 2612 FUE procedure, which yielded a total of 5336 hairs. The total graft count was as follows: 1 unit: 547 2 unit: 1426 3 unit: 619 4 unit: 20 His head nurse technician Mike did all the extractions with a motorized extraction tool. Rahal did the incisions, and finally implanting was carried out by Mike and another experienced technician (6-7 years of experience). Two additional staff members assisted. The procedure lasted for 12 hours from 06:00 until 18:00. During the extractions I bled a bit more than usual, otherwise the procedure went smoothly. The clinic as most of you know does multiple procedures; another FUE procedure was going on the same day, for crown work. I stayed awake for the majority of the procedure and opted not to watch a movie as I wanted the staff to remain focused while they were working on me. My impression during the procedure was that they took their work seriously. I have some minor observations that I'll share based on the final outcome, but nothing serious. Worth noting here is that they were using a tool that had been introduced during the past 2.5-3 months, called an "implanter". This is essentially a plastic tube that reduces damage to the graft during implantation and allows for denser packs. According to the doctor this is part of a major shift across the industry. Apparently Lorenzo, Bernstein, Erdogan and other famous docs are already using this, though since adoption is somewhat recent only Erdogan has final results on file. During my consultation I became quite concerned about this as it introduced an additional element of uncertainty to the process. However, the doctor stressed to me that Erdogan's results had been amazing and that the introduction of the implanters would reduce risk rather than increase it. Pre-op/Post-op and Patient Experience As detailed by many others over the years here, this is a clinic that takes patient care and post-operative follow-up very seriously. A lot of thought has been put into the "journey" that you take from showing the first interest to submitting the final follow-up photos. I won't spend too much time on this here, just state for the record that I have had a uniformly positive experience throughout. I really like the staff and they have come across in a sympathetic manner in all the interactions I've had with them. The doctor himself is a good man. He has rock solid ethics. While there I met a NW3 patient who to my semi-trained eye would seem like a good candidate, but was ultimately turned down. For this patient there was a risk of donor depletion, and his final pattern of loss would make the transplanted hairline seem odd if the loss progressed. Another, younger patient was turned down during my time there as well, due to his loss being too minor. Some reviews I saw characterized him as seeming "rushed", however I have had the complete opposite impression. He has been very generous with his time to address my various concerns and my myriad of different questions about post-op care and the procedure itself. Personality-wise he does have a bit of swagger to him, however in a way that I associate with high performers from work. Full marks for him and his team in this respect. My concerns The industry is "caveat emptor", and I take some blame for poor research in selecting my surgeon. My intention with choosing Dr. Rahal was to derisk my procedure, which I thought I had done by going for a clinic with a good reputation online. I did not want to go to Turkey, and had been somewhat underwhelmed by the results of the euro surgeons that were available in a reasonable timeframe. Rahal is routinely mentioned in top #3 lists across the internet and I also spoke with a former patient of his that I trust, and got his assurances that a large FUE session would not be a problem. I dodged most of the obvious bullets, like ARTAS, newbie techs, dense packed Armani hairlines, cheapo third-world surgeons and fallen greats. However, I overlooked the negative experiences of forum member Sean (which I believe was due to a combination of physiology and inexperienced staff members working on him during his initial procedure) and SugarHighs (combination of factors but probably physiology seeing as the hairs grew and then shed), and some of the other rather subpar FUE results floating around here. Ignoring the fact that Sean's procedure was back in 2011, most of the results you can find are rather old and there isn't really a plethora of recent complete hairline FUE results similar to what I was going for. Some of the patient results posted here evidence poor growth, though there is clearly a trend of better performance over the years. Mike told me that they generally don't get poor growth, time will tell but he seemed confident when he said it. I should mention that the most recent results you can find here, those of zx_toth and ftbpicks, both had very good growth and final results. I guess I've attached some new meaning to "doing your research". It really means going the extra mile; scouring the web for results and first-hand accounts, and compiling everything into a timeline. Contact former patients that stopped updating. Get everything in writing before you go in, like how many techs will be working on you, what tools will be used and the doctor's involvement in the surgery. No matter how this procedure turns out, I'll be much more careful with my next one, that's for sure. The road ahead: The way I see it, I'm taking one for the team here, essentially. If the results turn out great then that should help assuage anyone who's apprehensive about doing a larger FUE procedure with this doctor. As I said, the patient experience is top notch and I'd recommend anyone that can handle a FUT scar to go with Rahal. Attached are some pre-op, post-op day 1, and day 11 pictures. I'll get some higher res pictures soon so I'll upload those as soon as possible. However, having browsed a few of these threads over the years I know most people don't care too much about the post-op pictures, the final results are what matter. I'm committing to semi-regular updates until the 12 month mark. Other recent FUE patients of Dr. Rahal are welcome to post here, especially those that are far enough out from the procedure to see how it turned out.
  8. I had a first procedure that was unsatisfactory 18 months ago with ARTAS robot by another surgeon so I decided to try again with koray Erdogan. I attached 2 pics of me before surgery with dry hair and 3 with wet hair. I got 2600 grafts today all in the frontal and temporal areas and tomorrow it's supposed to be 2400 in the crown. I have also attached a couple pics of my first day post oo.
  9. Thanks to this forum, it helped me a lot. Had my HT on 3 and 4 July. 32 years old. Taking 1.25mg Fin starting from the day of surgery.
  10. Hello everyone, Today is the 2 month anniversary of my 1700 FUE with Dr. Konior on October 19th. I've been a long time lurker of these forums and not much of a participant, but I've been researching hair transplants for years ever since I started to lose my hair back when I was about 20 years old. This year, I finally decided to pull the trigger. Background I first started losing my hair at age 20. This was very stressful and a huge hit to my self confidence, and I started doing everything I could to combat the loss. Unfortunately I had read far too much about negative side effects from Propecia and did not start it right away (huge mistake that I still regret). Instead, I used methods with very low effectiveness such as the laser comb and Nioxin. 4 years later, with my hair loss getting worse, I finally decided to see a dermatologist to talk about Propecia and he greatly eased my concerns about the drug. Told me that the vast majority of his patients have zero side effects, and that I should start immediately. I ordered generic finasteride online and started it right away along with Rogaine foam and 2x / week Nizoral. Within just a month, I noticed tons of new hairs coming back. A year later, I recovered more than 50% of what I lost, and at the time I was ecstatic. Since then, my hair loss has remained mostly stable, and I honestly can't tell if I've lost any more hair over the past 10 years. But I was still very much bothered by having a see-through hairline, and because of a bald spot in the front center of my head that never recovered, I always had to comb my hair to the center as a mini combover to cover the loss (pic below). Choosing Dr. Konior Like I said, I've been on this forum for years, and I have not seen a single bad result from Dr. Konior, or any unhappy patients. Also, I had emailed Dr. Konior 4 years ago for a virtual consultation, and he was by far the most communicative and thorough in his responses to me. I had also considered Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Dorin, and Dr. Wesley. This year, I decided it was time book a procedure. I had the money saved up and I was completely ready to go. Dr. Konior had been concerned about the quality of my donor area in the initial consultation via email. I had taken photos in very bright light and in the photos my donor area looked sparse. To make sure this wasn't an issue, I took a day trip to Chicago just to meet with Dr. Konior and have a proper in-person consultation earlier this summer. I was told that I was a good candidate and that I would need somewhere between 1000-2000 grafts to recreate the hairline and densify the frontal region. During this consultation, my decision to go with Dr. Konior was solidified. He was direct, upfront, extremely knowledgeable, and very detail-oriented. If I had to choose one word to describe him, I would say "perfectionist". I was originally booked for May 2019, but luckily a cancelation came up and I was able to get a spot for much earlier. The Day Of The Operation Long story short, having an operation with Dr. Konior and his staff was honestly the best medical experience I've ever had. Everyone was so professional, meticulous, and kind throughout the whole day - and for the 2 days of follow-up - that I was completely blown away. I won't get into all of the details (unless anybody has specific questions) but one thing that immediately impressed me was that Dr. Konior must have spent an hour just drawing and redesigning my hairline until he thought it was absolutely perfect. Like I said, perfectionist. I sat there still and quiet just letting the master do his work. When I finally got a mirror and was able to see the line he drew, I was thrilled. It was EXACTLY what I wanted, a slightly lower hairline, drawn naturally, with a bit filled in at the temples. It was a very, very long day. I arrived at the office at 6am and I didn't get back to the Comfort Suites hotel until around 10:30pm. It was virtually pain free and even the numbing injections didn't really bother me. The hardest part was having to sit still for long periods of time, as it was tough to find a comfortable position. After some trial and error, I figured out what worked for me and the rest was pretty easy. The First 2 Months Aside from the embarrassment of walking through the airport looking like a mutant, and constantly worrying about hitting my head on something, the first couple weeks of post-op care was pretty easy overall. Dr. Konior's instructions were very well laid out and I didn't really have any issues aside from some general anxiety about losing / damaging grafts. The one thing that is more difficult than I anticipated, even after being a member of this forum for years, is the ugly duckling phase. Most of the grafts shed by Week 3 and I also had some shock loss in the recipient area, leaving me with a very awkward, uneven look which you can see in my photos. I've been in hiding from most of my friends for the last couple months and only now starting to feel more confident going out to social events, even though my hair looks worse than ever. Other than that, I'm patiently waiting for the growth to start. I think I've already seen some sprouts here and there, but nothing substantial at all, and of course it's far too early for that anyway. I'm just happy that at this point, since my native hair is getting longer each week, I'm looking less like a freak and more like a guy with bad frontal loss. Photos This is what I know most people want to see, and I've been taking photos regularly since the operation to keep track of my progress. The photos are presented in the following order: - Pre-op dry - Pre-op wet - Pre-op in sunlight - Pre-op at an angle - Pre-op combover - Night of operation - Day 1 - Day 1 donor area - Week 1 - Week 2 - Week 3 (notice the shedding!) - Week 4 - Week 4 donor (very happy with how undetectable this looks at this length) - Month 2 In my last pic, the one from today, the whole top of my head was trimmed by my barber to try to even it out and match it with the thinness in the front of my head. Normally that area looks a lot thicker. Well, that's all for now! Special thanks to everyone on this forum, but particularly guys like Spanker, 1978matt, and Reyes1 who posted extensively about their experiences with Dr. Konior. I'm sure I am missing other Dr. Konior patients who have posted on here, and thanks to you as well, but I can't remember all the usernames. Will try to keep this thread regularly updated, and also happy to answer any questions if you have them.
  11. Hello Ladies and Gentlemen! After so many years, I am finally taking the gumption and undergoing an FUE procedure with Dr. Cinik. I have been umming and arring for too long and after seeing some amazing results I decided to pull the trigger! I originally wanted to go with Dr. Koray Erdoğan but due to finances I am going with Dr. Cinik. His work has been well represented on several other forums and I've seen a few pop up here. I've been loosing my hairline since I was 18 and after 12 years of postponing it, the universe lined up for me to be able to make it happen. As an English actor living in Los Angeles, I live in a town where looks sometimes overshadow talent, so I have decided that I am going to take the best of both worlds and make myself as marketable as possible (with versatile hair). As much as wigs and styling have helped in the past, I am a point where my hair is constantly on my mind...did the wind blow? How does it look when I get out the pool/ocean? Is the camera picking up the receding hairline?. ..pretty much the all the thoughts going through everyone's mind on this forum! I am scheduled for approx. 3500 grafts, to the frontal third of my head, on Tuesday Dec 12th in Istanbul and I am excited and nervous! Looking at the future I am excited to see what it brings me with a new full head of hair, even if it's just confidence in the wind haha! I'll keep you all updated over the course of the weeks so that people can use me as a resource if they want. Attached are the pics that I sent the doctor, so you can see where my progression started at. I am fortunate that I have very thick donor hair, so I am excited to see how the grafts to hair ratio!
  12. Hello I had a hair transplant with Dr. Koray Erdogan in Istanbul 5,5 months ago. I had 5000 grafts transplanted via FUE on 2 consecutive days. 2500 grafts were placed in the front the first day, 1300 graft in midscalp and 1200 grafts in crown on the second day. The clinic is very big and high-tec, and all the staff and the doctor are very friendly and professional. Below are my pre op photos, post op photos. 5,5 months photos are in the next post.
  13. Hi everyone - I've been silently reading this forum for the last few months and it was instrumental in my decision to take the plunge and get a hair transplant. Here's my experience and journey so far. Statistics: Age: 33 NW: High (IV/V, possibly emerging VI but that's my guess) Caliber: 60 microns Hair / Graft Ratio: 2.04 Total Grafts Transplanted: 5,621 Estimated Donor Capacity: 8,200 Background: Like many of you, I’ve suffered from hair loss for most of my adult life, have tried (and abandoned) various hair regrowth treatments and thought becoming bald was my inevitable fate. I only started thinking about hair transplant options over the past 6 months or so when I randomly came across some articles discussing the latest advancements (and horror stories) in the field and the relative inexpensiveness of operations in Turkey and elsewhere. I began researching the topic seriously and this website was instrumental in my decision to go with Dr. Koray Erdogan. In selecting Dr. Koray, I focused on three things - results, passion for the craft and price. Being a high Norwood with a family history afflicted with MPB, I needed someone who had expertise with large HT cases like my own. I cared about passion for the craft because, I believe, thought-leadership and innovation are indicators of success, and I wanted the best-of-class when it comes to a major cosmetic operation that could either be transformative or a major disappointment. Finally, it had to fit my budget... now; I wasn't interested in taking years to save up $30-$45,000 that some US doctors were quoting me. Before settling on Dr. Koray, I researched and consulted with other hair transplant surgeons. As a Southern California native, I looked into local doctors (Armani, Rassman, Bisanga and others), some of the other big names in hair transplant I was coming across (Couto, Frietas, H&W, etc.), as well as other Turkish doctors (Karadeniz, Civas, Doganjay and some of the low-cost options too, like Cinik and Maral). I had a few in person and online consultations with some of these doctors, which was helpful. Frankly, the North American / European doctors who had impressive results were out of my budget. Dr. Koray was comparably priced to some of the average doctors I was seeing in the United States but had a stellar track record over the years and lauded as one of the best in the world. I thought his results put him among the top FUE surgeons in the world. I also found Dr. Koray’s YouTube videos to be very informative (admittedly much of it was PR, but it worked on me), and I became convinced that manual punch FUE in a mega session with some sort of implanter tool (like the KEEP device that Dr. Koray uses) is what would be best for me. In fact, I feel I may have ended up with Dr. Koray regardless of price. Pre-Op Treatment: I reached out to Asmed in early December 2018 and booked for mid-February 2019. At that time I wasn’t under any sort of medication. After my initial discussions with Sema, I went on 1mg generic fin daily and achieved some actual hair growth in the crown and midline areas. Process / Surgery: Others on this forum have gone into specifics around the airport pick-up, hotel, and clinic procedures in considerable detail, so I won’t repeat that here. But what I will mention is this. The Asmed mothership on the Asian side of Istanbul probably represents the pinnacle of what a modern medical facility should be - impeccably clean, sleek and exceptionally designed to shuttle patients from a pristine operating room, to high-tech hair wash / cut and transplant design areas, to an inviting waiting area (where you are greeted with Turkish hospitality in the form of tea, coffee and pastries and live classical music by a violin-piano duo). Everything was thoughtfully planned and laid out, and the process struck a balance between being highly individualized (Sema being my dedicated coordinator and never leaving my side) but productive (which I welcomed - I wanted to be one of the many patients they have great results for). When other people on these forums talk about how Asmed is a world-class facility, it truly is. When you meet Dr. Koray in person, you soon realize that he is singularly focused on your hairline and achieving optimal results based on a plan that takes into account your donor capacity and anticipated future hair loss. My interaction with him was otherwise limited, as I had expected to be from reading the forums, but I didn’t mind that – hairlines (and mine in the moment) are his obsession, and Dr. Koray spent a good 20-30 minutes (and consulted 18 others – my wife counted them) to ensure that mine was the very best for my face. And in Dr. Koray's staff, I felt care, compassion and dedication to implement Dr. Koray’s vision for the optimal hair transplant for me. Sema, my patient coordinator, was knowledgeable, patient and attentive. Nabiyeh, the nurse who was assigned to me the entire time I was there, was compassionate and genuinely concerned about my wellbeing. The surgical assistants had unfailing endurance and nimble, precise hands – in another era, they may well have been expert craftswomen weaving a great Turkish rug but are instead making a masterpiece out of my head and hair follicles. (I would prefer their hands doing the harvesting and implantations over that of any 50-60 year old man, no matter his years of experiences or the number of degrees he holds). Results: I could go on here… but what will ultimately matter, more than anything else I've written here, are my results, so check this thread 12 months’ time and we can all be the judge.
  14. <<I WILL REGULARLY UPDATE THIS THREAD AS MY SITUATION PROGRESSES>> I promised myself I would type up a very detailed review of my experience if I ever got one done because I know how frustrating it can be researching this and finding the right surgeon for you. It’s a long read, but if you are considering doing this, trust me, is worth reading. BACKGROUND: 34 year old Caucasian male, Chicago native. My hairline had been receding for years now. Forehead got larger and larger. Then my existing hair began thinning progressively and I began to entertain the idea of hair transplant. I think that was about 2-3 years ago. RESEARCH STAGE (GRAB A POPCORN ?? While I was entertaining the idea of getting hair transplant done, I began checking out some YouTube videos. I don’t know but it looked terrifying to me. I watched a FUT operation video and I was like, hell no! Then I stumbled across FUE Procedure and was like, okay, I think I can deal with that. So, I made a couple of phone calls in the Chicagoland area. I was quoted some astronomical numbers and I quickly realized that getting an hair transplant done here in the states was not an option for me. I am an IL State Trooper and make decent money, but not enough to blow 20k into an hair transplant. I began looking into Mexican doctors. I figured everything is cheap in Mexico, so why not. Well, I began reading some horror stories coming from Mexico. Let’s say I killed that idea as well. I then stumbled across a video of a guy who got his done in Istanbul Turkey. I checked out some Turkish doctors and learned that Turkey was one of the biggest hair transplant industry in the world and prices were reasonable. I made some calls and narrowed it down to 3 surgeons: Dr. Hakan Doganay, Dr. Koray Erdogan and Dr. Mutallip Keser. I had bunch of other guys blew smoke up my ass, promised me that my hair would be like I was 18 again.. warranty certificates and all. I don’t know, they tried way too hard and it was a red flag for me. But above doctors weren’t like the others and their prices were pretty close to one another: Dr. Hakan Doganay - 2 Euros per graft Dr. Koray Erdogan - 2,5 Euros per graft Dr. Mutallip Keser - 3,5 Euros per graft I looked very closely to these guys and they had phenomenal results. I mean, I couldn’t believe how good their work looked. When I was talking to their people, they were helpful. Out of all 3 of these doctors, Dr. Doganay’s communications director Didem was very attentive. She answered all my questions. I mean I bugged this girl with the silliest questions ever and at random times, but she was always there to answer. Both Erdogan and Keser’s team also were helpful, but not as swift and effective as Doganay’s team. At least with me. Doganay’s price was also very reasonable. So, that had some weight of course and I was leaning towards him for that and some other reasons, but then I read a couple of negative reviews. It concerned me for a second. After doing further research, I began to read negative reviews about Erdogan and Keser as well. I quickly snapped back to reality. I mean, who has 100% positive feedback out there anyways? There will always be someone unhappy for one way or another. I looked at the bigger picture and that was, Doganay did a fantastic job overall, his prices were reasonable, and he certainly didn’t blow any smoke up my ass and kept it very real with me. Gave me very realistic expectations. That gave me a lot of comfort. Plus communicating with his team was very easy and effective. The LAST thing I want is to get this done by someone whom I can’t get a hold of whenever I need to. Screw that! I don’t care how popular you are, you cut into my head, I will have some concerns, questions, etc. I need to be able to communicate. So for those reasons, I decided to go with Dr. Hakan Doganay. TRAVEL AND MEET DR. DOGANAY STAGE: Hopped on a plane and Doganay’s customer service specialist Tolga picked me up from the airport. This kid was polite and a lot of fun. Short ride to the hospital and I met Dr. Doganay in his office. After the quick introduction, his first question to me with a smile on his face was “how are you feeling now?” I am assuming I loooked nervous as hell, because i was lol. This is my head people! Plus, I am in a different country. He quickly eased my mind and said it would be just fine. He checked my hair, said I had a very good donor area. Estimated 2500ish grafts because I told him I wanted a dense packed hairline and lower it down a bit. Drew a nice hairline and I checked into my room at the hospital. As a Police officer / State Trooper, I scope every area and people I walk into. It’s the nature of the job, so I checked out the area and it was spectacular. Very clean and professional people. The staff also appeared very sincere. I was starting to feel less and less nervous. Hospital room was awesome too. I felt like royalty! SURGERY STAGE: Shaved the back of my head and kept the top at number 2. Took some pre-op pics and walked into the room where they began harvesting my hair follicles from the donor area. One of their experiences technician’s names Ahmet began extracting the hair with a micromotor. Not gonna lie, I was kind of nervous. After all, I was there because of Dr. Hakan Doganay. However, I was told that Dr. Doganay doesn’t do the extraction and he has trained two technicians and they do it. They had been doing it for years. I was like, you know what, I am gonna trust this guy. He has been yielding great results, so obviously it isn’t done by some rookies, in a dump somewhere. Plus, Dr. Doganay was constantly walking in the room and chatting with us. The staff looked extremely organized. Everyone knew their roles and they communicated well. I couldn’t help but kept asking questions, and they answered very politely each time. I actually felt like I had been friends with this staff and Dr. Doganay for quite sometime. They were seriously very cool people. They extracted the donors and we began the implantation. Dr. Doganay densly packed my hairline and I reallyyyyy loved the hairline. It appeared very dense, for a hair transplant, very well placed and perfect, natural looking hairline. While implanting the hairs, I was chatting with dr. Doganay. I bad mouthed a couple of hair transplant locations that blew smoke up my ass. Doganay was like “I don’t like talking bad about other surgeons, don’t believe in it so I will refrain commenting on that, but there are lots of people who claim to be good, but they just aren’t”. Right there, I respected the man much more. Doganay said he extracted and planted maximum 2000 grafts per day because doing more than that would yield in not so good results. He believed the job was very delicate and had to take your time doing it. He said some locations try to schedule multiple people in a day and rush through procedures which yields in bad results. He said he had first hand experienced that back then when he was trying to get through multiple people, but quickly learned his lesson and began changing his approach. He has been taking his time on all of his transplants. Right there, I no longer worried. I was like i m good hands! Anyways, the job was done and I was very happy. Everyone was just awesome. The reason I am writing this so passionately is because these people were amazing to me. I felt like I was family or something. They deserve a detailed review. Heck, everyone who is out here researching HT deserves a detailed review. This is serious business! After everything was said and done, I made my payment and they drove me to the airport. I was well taken care of from the airport until I return to the airport. Anyways, something VERY BAD happened as got off the plane.. thankfully not in Chicago. I was still in Turkey. I walked into a restaurant to grab a quick bite and boom!!!! I hit my head to a low hanging wall.. it was the same color as the ceiling and blended very well. Didn’t see it. I hit right my transplanted area. Long story short, as I was bleeding heavily, I saw a ton of my hair follicles were stuck to the wall. I looked at myself in the mirror and a large section of my hairline was missing. Tell me how you would feel. I didn’t know if I needed to be angry, sad, cry, scream.. I was heart broken! This is the biggest reason why i m typing this long review.. these guys are INCREDIBLE! I called Didem and told her what happened. I sent her a quick pic. She acknowledged it was bad, but they would take care of it. I bought the next flight back to Antalya, which was the next day and business as usual, Tolga picked me up. Staff greeted me, washed the bloody area.. Dr. Doganay checked it out and was like big deal, let’s fix this up. Piece of cake. They extracted I think like 80 grafts and Dr. Doganay transplanted them quickly. I seriously could not see the difference. Like it never happened. best part, when I asked how much a I owed them. He was like, you have gone through a lot with this unfortunate incident, no need to pay. It’s on us. I decide to tip each staff member, so made a payment that way. I would never consider going to any other hair transplant surgeons, even though I know Dr. Erdogan and Dr. Keser are great as well, but not only Doganay was cheaper with the same natural results, also the experience was phenomenal! If you you have any questions. I mean anything at all, I would love to help. Direct message me or simply reply to this thread. Preferably reply here so everyone can benefit from the answers, but if you have some private concerns, direct message me. I plan on sticking around here and sharing my experience with others. Anyways, onto photos! Before, right after day 1 and after my incident and then lastly fixed version. P.S. I requested the photos they took and will be posting those as well:
  15. Hi all, I've posted a couple of times on here previously. My story briefly is as follows: I'm in my early thirties, and have been noticeably losing my hair since around 2006 (so 10-11years), with the most rapid loss between 2012 and 2014. My father is a NW5 slowly progressing to a 6 (but he is 70!), I'm probably a NW5 too at present but progressing towards an NW6. My maternal grandfather had a full head of hair (maybe a NW2 or NW3 at worst), my paternal grandfather didn't (probably a NW6). Despite noticing my hair loss for the past decade or so, I haven't really taken any action. In 2011 I trialled minoxidil for 6 months, however stopped taking it after this time due to palpitations. It worked well, I noticed new hairs forming (in my hairline), however after I stopped taking it I noticed dramatic loss in a couple months or so (hence my worse loss probably being around 2012-2013). I never tried finasteride; I know, people are going to say; "why not?" or "just give it a try!". It's purely a personal decision; I do not wish to undergo any of those side effects nor have to take a pill for the rest of my life. If this stops me from getting a great result, then so be it. However, I am perhaps willing to try 1mg of Propecia 3x/week; that way it would be much cheaper and also I would hopefully at less risk of sides (it’s not just the sexual ones which concern me, I have a very high functioning job, and need to be on my A game all day; I don’t want the cognition side effects either). Anyways, I decided I would probably need multiple HT in 2013 and enquired at H&W with David Anderson. He was very amicable and he followed me up until 2016 when he left. I actually booked a 4500+ FUT megasession with Dr. Hasson, however unfortunately I had to cancel this due to no longer being available at the dates I had booked (as I would have to fly to Canada and back this was not possible in the short amount of time I had off). I was also uneasy about undergoing FUT due to the scar. I have already told myself as a last resort that if my hair gets really bad I will just have to keep it really short or buzzcut it, this would not be possible with FUT (and is just about a possible with FUE); I understand that FUE leaves scars too, don’t worry. They were very kind and considerate about all this and I thank them and their whole team for their professionalism. For sure if I needed a FUT they would be the first point of call; I had been researching for the last 5 years or so, and they definitely seemed the top. I then went researching for a surgeon who did FUE who was close by but affordable. My research brought up several familiar names: Lorenzo, Bisanga, Lupanzula and Erdogan. These (location wise) would all be feasible in my very limited time off and all their work shows great skill. However Lorenzo never replied to my emails until several months later and I decided I didn't want to fly in the end so ruled Spain (& Lorenzo out) and Turkey out and thus Erdogan. This left both Lupanzula and Bisanga as my top choices, they both had my dates available, and if I am correct Lupanzula worked previously with Bisanga? I was able to consult with Dr. Lupanzula over Skype however unfortunately logistically I was unable to meet him, however I was able to actually meet Dr. Bisanga in person and this definitely swung it for me. He was very amicable, and has many have commented he doesn't promise you the world, he is very realistic, conservative (the good kind!), honest and ethical. We decided that 3000-3500 grafts would be most appropriate with them concentrating on rebuilding the hairline and the frontal third. As you can see from my photos, the crown is also very bare, but I will have to therefore have another HT to potentially sort this out in the near future ± try propecia 3x a week. I was classed as a NW4V although I feel my hair is worse than that; it was probably made difficult for the doctor as I had my hair very short at the time of the consultation. In my eyes, hairline > crown coverage due to framing of the face.etc. My hair is quite thin, and my head is quite large, therefore I am not sure what sort of coverage I would need to get a good result, but thankfully my donor density was rated as decent with 80FU/cm2 all around. So, tomorrow I will have the first session of 3000-3500 grafts and then revisit my hair in 2 years time to either work further on the front, midscalp or deal with the vertex; depending on how much reserve I have. I’ll try to keep updated! Photos below are from January time; I can update with clinic photos tomorrow.
  16. Hi everyone, finally I bit the bullet and decided to get a hair transplant to fix my hairline. Ive been looking on this forum for many years like most of you, researching and trying to find a good doctor. finally I decided to go with Dr. Koray Erdogan in istanbul. About Me So for years I've always worn hats wherever I go, never wanted to go out and do things, wouldn't go on holidays, just everyday things my baldness stopped me doing and made me feel so uncomfortable so I looked into hair transplants and was really drawn to them. I am currently 26 years old but despite my age i felt this needed fixing now as i was seriously unhappy. My hair is fine everywhere apart from the front, Ive always had loads of hair and really thick hair. Arriving in Istanbul I arrived in istanbul on the 22nd October, I was greeted by the driver as soon as I walked through the airport with a sign with "ASMED" and then my name underneath. Because it was early morning i was taken to the hotel and not the clinic, the hotel from the airport is about 40 mins drive. I was informed that i would be getting picked up for my consultation at 2pm. First Visit To The Clinic The Driver picked me up exactly at 2pm and drove me to the clinic which is about 5 mins drive from the hotel. First impressions of the clinic was "WOW" that place is just amazing throughout the whole building. The first thing before walking into the clinic is putting your foot into this little machine which plastic wraps your shoe so no dirt is brought into the clinic. The clinic is super modern and hygiene is at a high standard. Consultation So the first step when arriving was getting photos taken, they took photos of my hair, then of my hair wet. Then I had a little 15 min wait in the lobby while Dr koray was looking at my photos upstairs then we went up to see him. He asked me a few questions about my hair loss, if i take medication, allergic reactions etc etc.. basic questions. When I told him I have taken proscar for 11 months with no side effects he gave me 14 months supply as a present which was very nice of him as I pay ?220 for 14 months of proscar. He then had a closer look at my scalp with a magnify glass and did some calculations then cut a small bunch of hairs from the side of my head and measured the thickness then did the same with a little bunch from the back. He told me as an estimate: My Donor Capacity: 9360 My Hair Thickness: 60 microns Hair per Graft: 2.2 Grafts Needed: 3000 I was told the average donor capacity in men is around 7000-7400, also the average thickness in men is 50 microns. For a good hairline that looks natural and for the temple points to be done it would be 3000 grafts which I was told 3000 over email so this was fine. He then proceeded to draw a hair line on my scalp and asked me if it was ok. I asked for it lowering about 0.5mm from where he had drawn it and he agreed to do this since he said my hair was thick and i had alot. After this i went back downstairs had my blood pressure taken, blood tested and heart rate monitured. I then got my head shaved, washed and then taken back into the photo room to finalise the hairline which he used a laser to do and take photos of my head again. Once this was done I was told i needed to watch the line on my head and to avoid getting it wet if i shower as he needs that hairline for the surgery the following day,i was given a hat i could wear and a info booklet with everything i need to know pre surgery and post surgery. i was then taken upstairs to pay for everything and then taken to the hotel and informed i would be picked up at 7.20am so to be up for the and have eaten breakfast at the hotel. The Hotel The hotel was amazing, really lives upto the 5 star rating it has. you get the hotel at discounted price for been a asmed patient, there is people there that have had transplants so you dont feel uncomfortable walking around with your new head of hair and red scalp as the staff see it day in day out and there is people walking around that have had it done too. The food at the hotel was great and the room had everything you need. Special pillows were put on your bed to accommodate for your surgery as youve to sleep with a neck pillow for the first 3 days. Breakfast is free at the hotel and is just a big breakfast buffet so get as much as you like between 6.30am - 10.30am everything from cereal, hot food, fruit, juices, tea, coffee and so much more. The wifi in the hotel was also great in the lobby and your rooms. Surgery Day I went down at 6.30am for the breakfast and had 40 mins to eat before i was picked up. The driver again arrived bang on time at 7.20am. Me and 2 other guys were taken to the clinic. I will make it aware to those who do not know but upto 3 surgerys can be taking place on the same day but there is plenty of staff to accommodate for this, also the techs do the extraction and implantation process, only dr koray does the incisions. I knew about this before I went to the clinic but his techs are great at what they do so it didnt put me off. So when arriving at the clinic again i plastic wrapped my shoes and made my way down stairs. I was taken to a room to get changed into hospital clothes and shoes then put my stuff in my locker. Then i was taken for my head shaving again and washed. After this i proceeded to a room where i could pick some juice and cakes and also some movies for the surgery, there is a big shelf full of different movies. Taken to my surgery room i sat on the surgery chair and was given a blanket as the temp would be really low as it helps the grafts to survive.My blood pressure was taken again and the techs got started and I was given the anaesthesia to numb my donor area and the extraction process started, my translator put on my film i chose and told me if i feel any pain to say and they will sort it, also if i have any questions just ask, the translator was constntly checking to make sure i was ok and comfortable. I asked how many grafts could be extracted in an hour and also what size the punch was. I was told around 700-800 an hour can be extracted and the punch was 0.7mm The extraction process took around 4 hours, I then went to the toilet (you can go through the surgery just ask, i just didnt need it until finished luckily) when going to the toilet you have to change into another pair of shoes, then when you come out you change back into your surgery shoes(these shoes are just like slip on slippers so no effort to get on which is great) i was then told i had 30 mins for my lunch. A woman brought me out soup, chips rice and chicken, a drink of juice, salad and dessert. I was left on my dinner for an hour and a half which is one of my negative things to say about my experience but when i asked about this and it affecting my grafts, they told me they store the grafts in a special solution and theyre cold so been out of the body for an hour and half still wont affect them. I then went back into the surgery room and my recipient area was injected with anaesthesia and checks were made to make sure it was numb. I opted for PRP treatment, this is optional but I figured Id get it to try reduce redness and heal faster. This was then injected into the recipient area and applied to the donor area in a cream formula not injected. Dr Koray then arrived and started the incisions process this took around 40 mins. He made sure i was fine and left and the techs got stated on implantation, with 1 tech sat either side of my head, one doing the left and one doing the right. This process took just over 3 hours. dr koray was coming in and out during the surgery to check on things and has cameras in the surgery room so he can over see the surgerys while in his office. Dr koray told me my hair per graft is alot better than the estimated 2.2 and I have tons of 3 hair grafts which was great news. A bandage was put on my donor area, I was taken to change back into my clothes and put my hospital clothes in the bin, I was given my saline solution, a pain killer, shampoo, lotion and a neck pillow and was instructed how to use these. They also gave me a form to show at the airport to hopefully allow the airport let me through customs with the shampoos and lotions as i only had hand luggage and 100ml is the max i can carry. also it had a 4 page booklet with charts and break downs of my grafts. I was told i would be picked up in the morning at 9.20am for my first hair wash, then taken back to the hotel. First Hair Wash Day 9.20am the driver arrived on the dot again and took me to the clinic, where the nurses showed me how to use my lotion and shampoo and for how long i need to use stuff and answered questions on when i can use other things(which is also in the booklet you recieve) I was then given a time of when I'd be picked up later that afternoon as I was flying back home at 8.30pm you can stay longer if you like i just wanted to get it done and get home, i think you get the discounted rooms for 7 days then you pay normal price. Overall Experience My experience as a whole was great, I met some fantastic people there, was made to feel so welcome and comfortable by the staff, my every need was seen to, and Im so happy with the hairline and the work that has been done hopefully i have great results but now i can only sit and wait. Tips If you are considering going with Asmed clinic my tips would be: -Bring someone along for company as this helped me massively -Bring tops that you can button up and not ones your pull over your head -i was told euros is fine to pay with for food etc but this became problematic so i recommend just using turkish learer for spending money, my surgery i paid for in pounds but all this can be found out over email before arriving. My Final Details Of The Surgery Total Grafts: 3003 Total Hair: 7560 Hair per Graft: 2.52 Caliber: 60 microns Hairs breakdown: 1's - 340 2's - 1049 3's - 1355 4's - 240 5's - 17 6's - 2 Thanks for reading this post, I will be updating this until the end if youve any questions on something feel free to ask.
  17. Hello Friends, I am a 33 old male from Oslo, Norway and have had a fue procedure at asmed clinic on 4th and 5th of july. I have had an unsuccessful surgery done in Oslo for almost four years ago of almost 1500 grafts. So i decided to go with Dr. Koray Erdogan because no one could match his results and i felt being in secure hands even though it was a costly procedure. I am currently approaching my 14th week mark (almost 3.5 months) after FUE with 4512 grafts. I was not originally planning on making a post but after much insistence from my little bro (who is known by the name of “Kingbilla” on this forum and had a procedure done in september at asmed) i finally gave in and started this thread. Hope this can be helpful to others and i can get back some valuable feedbacks regarding my progress. I will not get into the details of travel and hospitality except to say everything you read about the level of service is absolutely correct. Everyone from the drivers to nurses are very kind and attentive. I went on a 8 days trip to turkey and combined the Operation (July 4th to 5th), My Coordinator was Muge, She was a great person, very professional and helpful. ASMED clinic was very clean, very modern, it was like a hotel, in fact there was a person playing piano in the lounge. Met with the Doctor , my donor area total was estimated at 8000 graft and he suggested 4500 grafts. After that my head was shaved and we agreed on the hairline. July 4th Wednesday Operation - Only the Anaesthesia injections were painful, other than that the Operation was just fine. I had trouble sleeping that night as I was asked to sleep on the Neck Pillow. 5th Thursday Operation - Again, Only the Anaesthesia injections was painful, other than that the Operation was just fine. again sleeping was the only Problem. 6th Friday - Went to the clinic and Performed the First wash. Will Keep Updating my progress and pictures, Hope it benefits. Please feel free to ask anything incase you are wondering something, as i am writing a very brief introduction to this thread. Thanks to all the members for giving me the confidence. Stats single: 990 double: 2234 triple: 1189 quardruple: 96 quintpule: 3 total grafts: 4512 Ratio: 2.09 hair/graft Micron: 55
  18. Hi everyone, Had my operation on 10th of August 2018, taking Finasteride 1mg and Biotin. It's been 133 days and it looks to me that clock has almost stopped since day 80 or so. I'm still waiting for a significant sprout. Your comments are much appreciated. Pre Op Photos
  19. . ASMED SURGICAL MEDICAL CENTER DR KORAY ERDOGAN - PATIENT'S AGE: 34 - NW: V - Total transplanted area: 150 cm2 - Total donor capacity: 7800 grafts * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital density: 60-70-70 uf/cm2 * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital Hair Diameter: 59-59-59 micron - OPERATION DETAILS: 5027 grafts FUE extracted by manual punch, diameters 0.6 and 0.7 mm. Incisions executed by: custom made blades sapphire, lateral slit. Placed with K.E.E.P. * Single grafts 874 * Double grafts 2678 * Triple grafts 1370 * Multiple grafts 105 * General average Hair per Graft: 2.14 - GRAFTS DISTRIBUTION: 5027 grafts were used to restore the patient's FRONTAL, MIDLINE and VERTEX areas. - FINASTERIDE: The patient is using the medicine for 12 months. * Please note that the "RESULT" pictures were taken by the CLINIC. BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR BEFORE OPERATION OPERATION AFTER 1 YEAR
  20. Hello everyone. I have been meaning to make this thread but have honestly been both busy and lazy. I have been scouring this website for a few months now and have been checking out a lot of peoples progress and completed work. I am glad this exists and want to share my current experience with the community. I am 34 years old and had a FUE done in Las Gatos, California (near San Francisco) by Dr. John Diep on May 23rd, 2018 to the frontal 1/3rd of my head. I began noticing my hair loss slowly when I was 27 years old. I started receding slowly and then the crown started going fast. I used minoxidil from 2011 to 2013 but I kept losing hair but not as quickly as before. I got tired of it and stopped. I started randomly searching on youtube about hairloss solutions and disguises and that eventually lead me to toppik. I started using toppik to cover my crown and i was okay with it. Then when my hairline started disappearing, I would start adding toppik there. It was good for some time and then the hairloss was too drastic. I now started noticing people looking at my hairline when they were talking to me and I felt like they knew something was up. It looked clumpy instead of like real hair strands. So then I began buzzing my hair with a 2 guard and developed a light sprinkle technique to give the illusion that I had a full head of hair with the buzz cut. I eventually got tired of it because like all of you know, it became a daily worry with all of environmental elements and with people wanting to run their hands on the buzz cut. I also got tired of always wearing hats when I didn't have the toppik on my head. I then started doing some serious research for the last 4 years before I actually pulled the trigger. I was choosing between Dr. Lindsey (he is 45 minutes from me in Virginia), Dr. Feriduni ( in Belgium), Dr. Koray Erdogan (Turkey) and Dr. Diep. I ended up choosing Dr. Diep mainly because of his amazing fue hairlines and for that fact that he is in the US. I am not going to type a write up about the day of the procedure because its exactly like what most people have described in their Diep threads. I will say that everything went well and I was pretty much knocked out for 10 hours minus lunch. I was initially told that he would be able to get 2,500 grafts but he ended up extracting 2,381. He was going to do some temple work but since he didn't get the 2,500 grafts, he ended up not doing it. I didn't know this until after the procedure but that makes sense since I was pretty sedated. I also opted to get the A-cell done. I am currently at 6 months and am a bit nervous with the progress (I know this the time where everyone tends to get anxious according to the forums). I know I am a slow grower on the top of my head because I was the same way when I had a full head of hair. There is definitely significant improvement of my hair line, its actually quite dramatic. My only issue is that I don't see a lot of density and I see a lot of big spaces where grafts initially seemed to be placed. I am not going to freak out or anything until after 1 year. I have read on this forum that some people saw a lot of new growth at around 9 months and on. I know the hair also begins thickens up then so I'll just wait and see and post monthly progress pictures. Side note, I know I am going to need 1 or 2 more HTs for full coverage on the rest of my head. I am not on any medication other than daily biotin. I wanted to get yalls opinion on Propecia and your honest blunt opinions about my progress so far. Thanks a lot and I am excited to be a contributor to this forum and of course experience my progress and results with yall. Top 3 pictures are pre op Top 4 pictures are 2 hours post op 1 day post op after a cleaning at his office 3 days post op and my face is swollen 9 days post op with scabbing 10 days post op 12 days post op. All the scabs have fallen. 6 months. Pictures taken this morning. I was buzzing my hair until the first week of October. This is my hair growth since then, about 6 weeks. I am not cutting my hair until the year mark. Hair at 18 Hair at 22 Hair at 28. You can see the front receding.
  21. HairLossMentor

    Disappointed…

    Maybe we need to be clear on "budget"... Note: I'm not taking about Turkish doctor's like Dr. Koray for example...he does good work...and is not budget. He can (and does charge) comparable to $5-$6 CAD graft because he can. I'm talking about these $2000 clinics popping up all over Turkey. Not a chance you can get the same result as Wong Rahal, Shapiro, Koray with these hacks. Research a little more I know first hand that "repair cases" make up 10-30% of north american clinics now, mostly fixing botched jobs from Turkey. It's so bad that doctors describe it as a "wave of bad results." Just last week I met a kid who spent $2000 on a budget clinic only to get botched. He has NO options. What can he do? Sue the doc in Turkey? Guys need to know that. A good read... In Turkey’s cutthroat hair-transplant tourism industry, the biggest losers are the patients and Syrian refuges, https://qz.com/954680/in-turkeys-cutthroat-hair-transplant-tourism-industry-the-biggest-losers-are-the-patients-and-syrian-refugees/ 100% agree!
  22. Hi Everybody. I have previously had a 5000 graft hair transplant with Dr. Erdogan 15 months ago, as you can see in this THREAD I am very satisfied with the results from the 1st transplant, but because of the extent of my hairloss (NW5-6), and further hairloss since the hair transplant 15 months ago, I decided to use the remaining of my donor hair to increase the density overall. I had great donor hair to begin with, around 8000 available grafts before any transplant. But after the first transplant of 5000 grafts, the Doctor said he could extract another 4000 grafts (totalling 9000 grafts), even though I had hoped for another 5000 grafts :rolleyes: I will update this new thread with the ongoing results of the 2nd hair transplant that I have just received. Here are my 15th month results after the FIRST operation of 5000 grafts: Dry hair:
  23. Thanks. Will definitely keep updating this month by month till 12 months as so many people seem to disappear and not finish showing us the final results. I do have very dense hair in the donor, Dr. Koray noticed when having a look and hairdressers have always commented on it too. Im confident it’ll turn out well too and I have realistic expectations, I know I’ll still have to style it well for it to look good, but it’ll be much easier than pre op and give me more styling options which I’m looking forward to.
  24. Hello Everyone, I'm a patient who unfortunately developed a necrosis after 4147 grafts in July 27 2017. You can read my original story here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/187587-4147-grafts-fue-asmed-dr-erdogan.html Arrival I arrived in Istanbul on Sunday, May 20th. This trip was a lot easier because I knew exactly what to do, where to go and what to expect. I was picked up by Ihmet (one of ASMED drivers) and taken to Sheraton Hotel. The hotel is gorgeous, very modern. Consultation The next day at around noon I was picked up by ASMED driver and was taken to the clinic to see Dr Koray for a consultation. I was first greeted by Sema another patient coordinator (Suzana was in the surgery room with another patient), to fill out some paperwork. After I've filled out the form I've met with Dr. Umut (Anesthesiologist). He asked me the same questions as the last time about allergies to anesthesia etc. I told him that after my previous procedure I had very bad itching. He immediately walked to the cabinet in the room, grabbed some pills, handed to me and said: After the procedure if you feel any itching, take one pill a day and it should help. He also gave me pain killers in case I would feel pain after my procedure. Right after I was taken to take pictures. I then went to see Dr. Koray. When I walked into Dr. Koray's office, the first thing that Dr. Koray said was: I'm so sorry you had to go through necrosis. He felt so bad. He gave me a big bear hug and said "Let's take care of this". Initially this procedure was supposed be a shaved FUE, just like the first time but after discussing it with Dr. Koray, it was decided that in this case an unshaved Long Hair FUE was achievable. I was over the moon with the news because I knew that I don't have to go through a long process of growing the hair back. We spent about 45 minutes with Dr. Koray, his head nurse and my patient coordinator Suzana (more about her later) looking at all my pictures on a big screen. Dr. Koray looked at all photos pre op, post op and new photos taken a few minutes prior. Dr. Koray said: "We will do this procedure slow and meticulous because the skin from necrosis was new and fragile". After the consultation we said our goodbyes and I was taken back to the hotel. My procedure was scheduled to be the next day. Procedure I was picked up by the driver at 7:15 am and taken to the clinic. I was greeted by a receptionist and Suzana. ASMED really puts you at ease. It felt warm. They really do take care of you. I was taken downstairs by Suzana to change my clothes into scrubs. I was then taken to the OR. Few minutes later my surgical team arrived. One of the girls was from my first procedure. It was great seeing her again. We had our small talk, laughed and then I was getting ready for my procedure. I knew the anesthesia shots suck big time. But this time they said I won't need as many and because I already had my first procedure and something about nerves being traumatized already, I won't feel as much pain. They were right. First couple shot stung a little then I couldn't feel a thing. The extraction of long hair grafts started at 8:00 am and took almost the same time as my first shaved FUE procedure of 2200 grafts (on day one). They were going very slow and meticulous. They even showed me a few of my long hair grafts. It was so cool. Dr. Umut came in few times to make sure I was feeling comfortable. We finished the extractions at around 11:30-12 noon. Then lunch was provided. It was very delicious. After lunch, we went back to the OR. Dr. Koray came in and made the incisions and nurses started implanting. I was done at around 3:30 pm. I was then taken to the wash room. My head nurse washed my hair very carefully. They also brought me tea and toasted pastry. Dr. Koray walks in to see the final work. He look at my head and said: "I really think we did it this time. Everything looks pink and healthy". After washing my hair, I went to the photo room where new set of photos were taken. I have to say that this time the procedure felt so much easier. Granted I only had 602 grafts (comparing to 4147 grafts the first time). Even anesthesia wasn't as bad. After my first operation I felt like my head was under a helmet all the time and it lasted a while. This time, the very next day I almost didn't feel anything. I stayed 3 extra days in Turkey to get my daily wash. I know that the first 3 days are very important and wanted to make sure they wash it. I was little scared to do it myself the first 3 days lol Suzana, my patient coordinator I would like to say a few words about Suzana. This girl is incredible. After few initial emails, we started communicating by using WhatsApp. At times I felt she didn't even get enough sleep because she was replying to my questions and concerns way passed her bedtime (8-10 pm her time). She was constantly sending me messages at any time of the day. When I was in Turkey, she would send me messages around 8-9 pm telling me what to expect the following day. She's a machine. Dr. Koray, if you are reading this, Suzana deserves a big RAISE lol. On my last day, we had a little concert singing and playing piano in the lobby. It was great. Dr. Koray You are one of the most ethical doctors I know. I felt I was getting a 5 star treatment from a 5 star clinic by a world class surgeon. So again Dr Koray, Suzana and your entire staff, THANK YOU SO MUCH for everything you have done for me.
  25. Hello all. Below is the link to a brief summary of photos of my final results after two procedures of 8118 FUE grafts with Dr. Koray Erdogan (5518 in August 2016 and 2600 in July 2017). I am 39 years old. Photos show current state of my hair in February 2019, and I used hairspray to style it. The hairline and front looks really great in my opinion, but obviously the crown still needs more work. Thus I bleached my hair for now to help conceal the thin crown, which stands out more with dark hair on fair skin. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/profile/29707-erdoganfue/?tab=field_core_pfield_10 I am now 18 months after Procedure #2 of 2,600 grafts in July 2017 with Dr. Erdogan in mid-July 2017 to fill in gaps, crown and add density (and 2.5 years after Procedure #1 with Dr. Koray Erdogan of 5,118 grafts in August 2016). Procedure #2 took one day, no surgical complications to report, everyone at the clinic was great as the first time (more details on my profile page) and always super nice. I did experience severe facial and head swelling in the first week following surgery. You also have to sleep in a head pillow for 7-10 days when you get crown work down to protect the grafts. I used ATP spray every four hours for a week after the procedure as well (provided by clinic). Considering where I began before procedure #1, it is pretty remarkable what a difference 8,100+ grafts by a great clinic make, and it is only going to get better! Here is the link to where I was at before any procedures, about a Norwood V status, age 37: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/profile/29707-erdoganfue/?tab=field_core_pfield_23 I now have Procedure #3 for 2,000 grafts scheduled with Dr. Baubac Hayatdavoudi of the Alvi Armani clinic in Beverly Hills, CA on March 1, 2019 to focus on in crown/vertex/mid-scalp and any minor touch ups. This will put me at approximately 10,118 total grafts over three procedures between August 2016 an March 2019, a major overall transformation! I am currently deciding whether I should use only head hair as donor, or do a mixture of head and beard hair and preserve some of the remaining head donor area for the future (remaining head donor estimated somewhere between 1,000 and 3,000 head grafts). I have ample available beard hair on the neck to use, should I choose to do so. Attached on my profile for Procedure #3 are some photos of my beard donor area. I may solict the forum's avice on this issue in another thread, but would welcome on this thread your thoughts on my results from my two prior procedures! My overall profile page link is below (also in my signature) with a more detailed breakdown of the whole process, before and after photos from both procedures, and where I'm at now: https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=3340 Finally, here's the link to my original Procedure #1 thread of 5,518 FUE grafts by Dr. Erdogan, performed in August 2016:
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