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  1. This is the one and only "Johnny" Diep? Who like so many other doctors rotated onto Dr. Rassman's baldingblog masthead for a few months and then vanished without a trace? I think Rassman is disingenuous when he claims his member physicians (eg, Pak) do work just as good as his own (and I'm no fan of his, aesthetically, for the most part), but perhaps if you contacted NHI they might have some photographic evidence of Diep's ability, or be able to refer you to patients treated by him. Always love that euphemism "treated"....
  2. With all due respect JoDirt, I think your reasons for going to Dr. Diep are poor and you're making a mistake. Believe me, we all wish we could have a low hairline, but most responsible doctors make that determination after examining your finite donor supply and hair characteristics not by what racial background you are. It's important to plan for the future since there will more than likely be further hair loss in the coming years. I have never heard of Dr. Diep. Have you seen any pictures of his patients? Do you have any idea what kind of yield, scar, etc. he may produce? Think long and hard with your head not your heart. The last thing you would want to become is a repair patient.
  3. Jason-- Thank you very much for your response. I have already decided on Dr. Konior and have made arrangements to have my procedure done with him. Thanks again for your help! John
  4. John, Welcome to our discussion forum. If you are looking for a quality physician in the Chicago area, Dr. Konior is certainly worth researching and considering. I encourage you to check out Dr. Keller as well who is also performing high quality work. Use our hair restoration forum "find feature" to see what their patients have been saying. Remember, what isn't available online, seek offline but consulting with physicians and asking for a list of patient contacts you can talk to, view their pictures, and even meet. Best wishes, Bill
  5. Thank you for bringing this to my attention Spex. John, you should not be pulling anything out of your scalp, so stop that immediately. What seems like an inconsequential hair pull to you is actually very traumatic to the follicle. Removing hairs with tweezers and inspecting them is not routine for hair transplantation and any observation you make based on the look of these hairs has no bearing on the future growth of the transplants. The areas you referred to are more than likely NOT infected. Rather, at 3 months the hairs begin to grow into the new area of skin and the skin can become IRRITATED. Infection an irritation look the same at this point, but since the surgery was preformed 3 months prior (or more) the chances of infection are virtually zero. However, if you constantly touch these area with your fingers then you can initiate an infection. Stop focusing that closely on your hair and leave it alone. It knows what to do and doesn't need help or inspection. If you are very concerned then call Marcia and make an appointment for a follow up. Dr. Feller
  6. Bill, No I do not have an agenda nor do I need money.You dont seem to have an answer as to why your running Cole down other then to say " Our legal consul has advised us, as the publishers of this community, to limit any mention of Dr. John Cole publicly due to previous legal threats" You feel you need to win this, but I suspect your members are getting some clairity. I'll punch out now. One last question .......is a Chiropractor a Dr.?
  7. John, Congratulations on your positive experience and excellent results with Dr. Konior. Thank you for sharing your pictures also. For your information, I have moved your photo album to the "hair transplant patient photo albums" section of the forum. You can view them by clicking here. Best wishes, Bill
  8. Felix, Welcome to our forum community. Our legal consul has advised us, as the publishers of this community, to limit any mention of Dr. John Cole publicly due to previous legal threats. However, his patients are free to detail their actual experiences and results on our forum. Unfortunately some of these patients have not felt comfortable or secure in posting critical comments publicly. See also what Pat, our Publisher said about Dr. Cole on this thread. Bill
  9. John M, I think it was you, but I believe Dr. Beehner answered this question best on a recent thread when he said... "You have to understand what is happening at the microscopic level under the skin after a hair transplant. After hair transplant surgery, approximately 95% of the hair follicles that have been moved to the recipient area are "shocked" into a 3-4 month telogen phase, during which the follicle structure "shrivels" up, shrinks, and takes a nap for a few months. While it does this, it totally disconnects from the little stub of hair above it, leaving it sitting in its little superficial hole. Often times, a shower, brushing, or rubbing your scalp will cause these to fall out of their tenuous hold in your scalp and cause panic. Don't worry. The hair follicles that don't shock, which is usually a small percentage, but occasionally can be quite a few of them in some hair transplant patients, you can tell because the hair grows from the get-go and from week to week you can tell this is happening. In many cases, a lot of the short hair stubs will fall off along with the scab at the 1-2 week mark and cause alarm in hair restoration patients, thinking that they have lost the transplanted hair, when it is just a hair shedding of this detached hair, which is dead, just like a finger nail that has been separated from its bed but still sits in position at the end of your finger. Interestingly enough, when one uses multi-follicular unit grafts of 4-5 hairs each, almost all of the hair stubs DO fall off with the scab, whereas in areas where all follicular units are used, I find it common for the hair stubs to sit in place for many weeks as you have described. When the follicle finally comes out of its "slumber" and starts creating a new hair shaft, this new shaft quickly displaces the other one." Honestly, this is what it sounds like is probably happening in your case. I would think that a new hair that is connected to the hair follicle should be growing through in the next few weeks/months. You may however, want to discuss or consult with Dr. Feller to know for sure what is going on in your case since he was your physician. Bill
  10. nw2, Our legal consul has advised us, as the publishers of this community, to limit any mention of Dr. John Cole publicly due to previous legal threats. However, his patients are free to detail their actual experiences and results on our forum. Unfortunately some of these patients have not felt comfortable or secure in posting critical comments publicly. Bill
  11. P.J. Our legal consul has advised us, as the publishers of this community, to limit any mention of Dr. John Cole publicly due to previous legal threats. However, his patients are free to detail their actual experiences and results on our forum. Unfortunately some of these patients have not felt comfortable or secure in posting critical comments publicly Bill
  12. John M, Your TOTAL graft count was 3,281 Your break down was as follows: 1,312 single FUs 1,969 double/triple FUs Distribution was approx: Most single hair FUs on hairline and temples All doubles/triples just behind hairline to the top. The very back of the transplant were the remaining singles. Nice blog. Grow well, Dr. F
  13. JOhn, have you tried calling him? dr. feller definitely seems like a very accessible guy. also, your work does look great. i just had mine done friday and it also looks ultra clean...
  14. Notsure, John tends to usually be blunt about things which isn't all that bad. I think that you need to prepare yourself for the worst case scenario. There are so many variables that it is hard to give you a simple answer. It will depend on many factors and even then it still is questionable. John is right about one thing. Don't just listen to people that say "I was back to work in a week and no one noticed." It is never just that simple. What was OK for them might not be for you. Here we go, I'll try to elaborate in point form: -It will depend on how much work you are having done -It will depend on how much native hair you have to help conceal -It will depend on what type of surgery. Strip surgery or FUE (no linear scar) -It will depend on if you have to shave your head for procedure -It will depend on where the hairloss is -It will depend on what Dr. you go to. Some are doing more refined work -It will depend on the color of your skin -It will depend on the contrast of your skin and hair -It will depend on if everything goes according to plan. Shockloss can be unpredictable -It will depend on how thick your donor hair is -It will depend on how tall you are. If people look down at you all day they might notice. -It will depends on what you consider to be acceptable As you can see there are several variables. Myself, I was back to work in 10 days with the public and looked like I had a bad haircut. Personally I wish I had 3 weeks or more before going back. I was at the point where I was just so tired of worrying about my damn hair that I really didn't care too much if someone noticed. I hope this helps.
  15. Spex, John is a well respected member of our community only interested in the truth and does not deserve to be attacked. Thank you for apologizing to him. I happen to agree wholeheartedly with his assessment of the need for an accurate set of photos to be represented. As I've seen a need for it, I've been pushing hard for accurate photos regardless of whether or not it is popular to do so. Whereas I do not believe there is an attempt to deceive on your or Dr. Fellers part, clearly this shows just how important pictures in natural lighting are as they tend to expose the reality of a situation. Clearly the cosmetic appearance of this patient's hair has improved significantly and clearly this is a difficult case. The pictures in natural lighting however, reveal that he is not as far along as the indoor pictures lead our members and guests to believe. Personally, I feel that it is important to hold hair restoration clinics to a higher level of accountability when posting photos and sharing the details. It is clearly critical to the seeking hair transplant patient to understand what he/she is to expect before undergoing hair transplant surgery. Therefore I request that in the future that hair transplant clinics do their absolute best to post photos that best reflect reality with detailed explanations of a given case so that it is fully understood by the seeking hair loss sufferer. Best wishes, Bill
  16. John, You are correct in your analysis of the pictures. The picture you posted above is 10 months after his hair transplant with Dr. Feller. Clearly the results are not optimal, but from what I understand this was a pretty nasty repair case. The fact that this patient appears to have two types of hair (as described above) certainly doesn't help matters. His appearance has indeed improved from the original case - but more may be needed to further improve his appearance. This is another example however, about how pictures can be deceiving and why I put so much pressure on clinics sometimes to post pictures that expose a true representation of the work performed! The indoor pictures are taking in different lighting and with his hair combed down. Clearly his indoor pictures look a lot better. Bill
  17. John, I think repair cases have to be taken case by case. In this example, it appears that a lot of scarring in and around the recipient area could have led to less than optimal growth. From Spex: "BHUK was an extreme repair case performed a while ago in the UK. He brought to the table many variables including a very wide scar and rows of plugs with a great deal of scar tissue in and around the recipient area." And "Remember especially with repair cases some take longer than others and some require more attention and work than others depending on the severity of their personal situation." It also seems that this patient had two types of hair follicles contributing to a less than natural look. From Dr. Feller: "BHUK is a "mosaic" hair wise. This means he has two different types of follicles existing throughout his donor area. One group is the standard hair that he identifies himself with. The other is a much darker, courser, and curlier hair. I see a patient like this maybe once every 3 years and it is utterly fasinating except for the fact that it works against the patient's goals. The problem was made even worse when his former clinic decided to use minigrafts containing 2-4 grafts on the hairline. By doing this the negative characteristics of the "bad" hair were amplified, and this is readily seen in the before photos. My goal was to cover the entire frontal area with enough density so that the bad hairs could be covered by the good hairs. For the most part it worked, but he still needed some touching up in certain areas which were covered by his second procedure with us. " From what I have read, this patient was made aware of the risks before entering into surgery. Seemingly there is a long term plan in place to help camoflauge the two types of hair. Repair cases are seemingly extremely difficult, especially depending upon the individual cirumstances. Bill
  18. hi john i dont feel shln has any vested interest in a paticular dr.its just that most of the regular posters have had great results with dr feller hence he is mentioned all the time. at no point is anyone stopped from posting their results with other drs,they are encouraged to do so. why dont some of the guys on here post their results there and i bet they dont get a frosty reception
  19. Hi Bill, Thank you for the support and advise. I am presently in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on a project from my company. I would be in Calgary for 6 months till Feb 2008. So thinking of meeting some HT specilist as per Hairtransplant network. I have scheduled a appointment next week with Dr. John Gillespie 5116 ??“ Elbow Drive SW ,Calgary, His website is http://www.gillespieclinic.com/ I have heard that there is another doctor Dr. Nakatsui in Edmonton , if time permits then I shall also meet him. His website is http://www.drnakatsui.com/ Hope I am not offending the site by pasteing the websites addresses of these doctors.This was only for qick refrence for other members. looking forward for next week.Once again thank you Bill. Regards Sahil
  20. Hello everyone, As many of you know, our community has recently started providing live chat every Tuesday evening at 10:00pm. I have had a number of requested both publicly and privately to post this past Tuesday's chat transcript. Not only did we have many forum members (veteran and new), but we were joined by two of our coalition physicians, Dr. Hasson and Dr. Epstein. What an amazing experience to have professional input at our immediate disposal. Below is the live chat transcript from Tuesday evening 9/25/2007. It is long and possibly confusing to follow. But since many have requested it, I have posted it. The Live Chat Transcript is Below: ---------------------------------- 2007-09-25 18:11:14.0 melina: hi 2007-09-25 18:40:56.0 giants: if its not mr crouse 2007-09-25 18:41:30.0 giants: just as i suspected 2007-09-25 18:44:33.0 giants: Bill my man 2007-09-25 18:44:56.0 Bill: Hey Giants 2007-09-25 18:45:04.0 Bill: I see there are a few early arrivers like myself 2007-09-25 18:45:11.0 giants: i was cutting my hair yesterday and accidently shaved it bald! 2007-09-25 18:45:18.0 giants: absurd 2007-09-25 18:45:32.0 Bill: wasn't it already shaved down to a 1 clip? 2007-09-25 18:45:34.0 giants: i left kinda a mohalk down the middle 2007-09-25 18:45:39.0 Bill: it doesn't get much shorter than that 2007-09-25 18:45:40.0 Bill: oh! 2007-09-25 18:45:41.0 giants: yea hbut this was a 0 2007-09-25 18:45:45.0 Bill: my friend John shaves his head bald 2007-09-25 18:45:51.0 giants: 0 gets practically bald 2007-09-25 18:45:59.0 Bill: yeah...zero is quite short 2007-09-25 18:46:00.0 giants: you can barly see hair 2007-09-25 18:46:17.0 Bill: yeah I know...I've done that before 2007-09-25 18:46:45.0 giants: the look inst the end of the world but i look alot better with hiar 2007-09-25 18:47:08.0 Bill: well I always thought I looked better with hair too which is why I had 3 transplants 2007-09-25 18:47:11.0 giants: wouldnt it have been great if people said i looked better bald 2007-09-25 18:47:31.0 giants: that just doesnt jhappen 2007-09-25 18:47:35.0 Bill: well the shaved head does look good on you from what I've seen 2007-09-25 18:47:54.0 giants: yeah its cool but have had alot of recen recesstion 2007-09-25 18:48:10.0 giants: id keep the 1 shave over anything else even if i had all my hair 2007-09-25 18:48:20.0 Bill: I did notice that from your picture...but then again, that was the first time I saw it at that angle 2007-09-25 18:48:54.0 giants: it diddnt decive you its gotten worst im on the foam twice a day and nizoral 7 times a week 2007-09-25 18:49:12.0 Bill: well I hope crouse comes back when we start 2007-09-25 18:49:18.0 giants: hell be back 2007-09-25 18:49:26.0 giants: if i know crouse which i dont hell come back 2007-09-25 18:49:40.0 Bill: yeah, I hope so 2007-09-25 18:49:46.0 Bill: well...perhaps you are experiencing a shed 2007-09-25 18:50:01.0 giants: naw recession is never a shed 2007-09-25 18:50:12.0 Bill: not the recession... 2007-09-25 18:50:19.0 Bill: I'm referring to the thinning on top 2007-09-25 18:50:20.0 giants: have you heard of follicas new product dermenodex 2007-09-25 18:50:24.0 Bill: behind where it has receeded 2007-09-25 18:50:49.0 giants: does it look thin behind where it has recceded? 2007-09-25 18:51:08.0 Bill: from what I saw in the one picture I thought it did. Perhaps it was the lighting or angle 2007-09-25 18:51:15.0 Bill: but I guess I'll have to look again 2007-09-25 18:51:34.0 giants: ill show you again 2007-09-25 18:51:42.0 giants: later 2007-09-25 18:52:04.0 Bill: yeah...I have it somewhere....I'll find it 2007-09-25 18:52:49.0 Bill: doesn't look like you have a problem with the ladies though 2007-09-25 18:53:01.0 giants: not as of now 2007-09-25 18:53:15.0 giants: but i can predict a probem in the futer 2007-09-25 18:53:24.0 giants: its also just knowing your not the man you once were 2007-09-25 18:53:36.0 Bill: hair does not make the man 2007-09-25 18:53:45.0 giants: i know 2007-09-25 18:53:51.0 Bill: I know plenty of bald men (NW6) who shave their head and still get beautiful women 2007-09-25 18:53:53.0 Bill: welcome barley! 2007-09-25 18:54:04.0 giants: its not just about hooking up with girls as it was about getting complimented 2007-09-25 18:54:12.0 giants: hows it going barly 2007-09-25 18:54:21.0 Bill: well sure...and it's how you feel about yourself 2007-09-25 18:54:24.0 giants: it just gives you confidence 2007-09-25 18:54:25.0 Bill: trust me bro...I've been there 2007-09-25 18:54:28.0 barley: GREETINGS TO YOU ALL 2007-09-25 18:54:30.0 Bill: I felt sorry for myself for years 2007-09-25 18:54:35.0 Bill: glad you could join us barley 2007-09-25 18:54:38.0 giants: yeah i feel you on that one 2007-09-25 18:54:46.0 Bill: only 3 of us right now, but I trust that this room will get busy soon 2007-09-25 18:54:59.0 Bill: we are currently talking about how hair loss has impacted us 2007-09-25 18:55:11.0 giants: Bill have you heard anything about follicas new product dermendex 2007-09-25 18:55:27.0 Bill: no I have not 2007-09-25 18:55:33.0 Bill: is it out on the market? 2007-09-25 18:55:39.0 giants: yeah 2007-09-25 18:55:40.0 Bill: or a projected product 2007-09-25 18:56:10.0 Bill: Barley...feel free to jump in bro 2007-09-25 18:56:30.0 giants: you can order it, its active ingrediant is adenosine 2007-09-25 18:57:11.0 Bill: what is adenosine supposed to do? Is it a DHT inhibitor? 2007-09-25 18:57:22.0 Bill: and it hasn't been FDA approved for haiir loss 2007-09-25 18:57:29.0 Bill: was it something I said? 2007-09-25 18:57:38.0 giants: no to be honist im still doing research on it 2007-09-25 18:57:49.0 Bill: yeah...feel free to post anything you find on the forum 2007-09-25 18:58:50.0 giants: is there anything real interesting in the intercytex report 2007-09-25 18:59:24.0 Bill: well...I know there was a report due yesterday. I haven't actually taken the time to read it yet - assuming it's even out 2007-09-25 18:59:58.0 Bill: welcome Paul! 2007-09-25 19:00:08.0 Paul L.: thanks 2007-09-25 19:00:08.0 Bill: glad you could join us 2007-09-25 19:00:14.0 Bill: are you new to our community? 2007-09-25 19:00:29.0 Paul L.: I haven't been here in awhile 2007-09-25 19:00:42.0 Bill: oh...well we are glad to have you back 2007-09-25 19:00:48.0 Bill: did you get the email? 2007-09-25 19:01:03.0 Paul L.: had 3 sessions - considering a 4th to finish up 2007-09-25 19:01:08.0 Paul L.: yes I got it 2007-09-25 19:01:19.0 giants: the report is out 2007-09-25 19:01:21.0 Bill: yeah, I goofed up the email at first and accidentally put last week's date! 2007-09-25 19:01:28.0 Bill: who was your doctor Paul? 2007-09-25 19:01:32.0 Paul L.: no problem 2007-09-25 19:01:43.0 Paul L.: beehner in ny state 2007-09-25 19:01:45.0 Bill: sounds like you are in the same boat as me....3 hair transplants and will probably have a 4th in a couple years 2007-09-25 19:01:58.0 Bill: Did he perform all 3 of your procedures? 2007-09-25 19:02:02.0 Bill: Welcome Hairfree! 2007-09-25 19:02:05.0 Paul L.: yes 2007-09-25 19:02:07.0 Bill: glad you could join us! 2007-09-25 19:02:14.0 Hairfree: Hello! 2007-09-25 19:02:15.0 Bill: Paul, how many grafts did you receive? 2007-09-25 19:02:23.0 Bill: for all 3 sessions combined? 2007-09-25 19:02:28.0 Bill: and what was your level of loss? 2007-09-25 19:02:41.0 Bill: Hairfree...I talked with your doctor over email the last couple days 2007-09-25 19:02:48.0 Paul L.: probably around 1500 each time - 4500 2007-09-25 19:02:52.0 Bill: Welcome BBG! 2007-09-25 19:02:58.0 Hairfree: Really..What was the topic? 2007-09-25 19:03:17.0 Bill: welcome back Barley 2007-09-25 19:03:26.0 Bill: Paul, what was your level of loss? 2007-09-25 19:03:28.0 BareBeGone: hi there, Bill! and everyone 2007-09-25 19:03:34.0 Bill: and how do you like your results with Dr. Beehner? 2007-09-25 19:03:48.0 Paul L.: good considering I was a 7 2007-09-25 19:03:50.0 Bill: Hairfree...just chit chatting really... 2007-09-25 19:03:56.0 Bill: I had to crop some photos for him on Pat's recent album 2007-09-25 19:04:06.0 Hairfree: Cool, Rahal seemed like a nice guy 2007-09-25 19:04:06.0 Bill: Paul...wow...that's great 2007-09-25 19:04:11.0 Bill: have you posted some photos? 2007-09-25 19:04:25.0 Hairfree: Did you mentioned me to Rahal? 2007-09-25 19:04:25.0 Bill: Glad you could join us BBG 2007-09-25 19:04:33.0 Paul L.: thinking of having either beehner of hasson do the last 2007-09-25 19:04:35.0 Bill: looks like Barley is having internet issues 2007-09-25 19:04:49.0 barley: yes, but I am OK for now 2007-09-25 19:04:58.0 Bill: Hairfree: actually he brought your name up...thanked me for helping you 2007-09-25 19:05:01.0 Bill: I told him it was my pleasure 2007-09-25 19:05:08.0 Bill: glad to hear it Barley 2007-09-25 19:05:32.0 Bill: welcome Melina 2007-09-25 19:05:36.0 Bill: welcome super8mm 2007-09-25 19:05:39.0 Hairfree: Thats great, I mentioned you to Rahal. He said he knew you. That was back in April 2007-09-25 19:05:57.0 super8mm: Hi everyone 2007-09-25 19:06:00.0 Bill: I think Dr. Rahal has known OF me for awhile now 2007-09-25 19:06:07.0 Hairfree: lol 2007-09-25 19:06:08.0 Bill: but we only just had the opportunity to speak via email recently 2007-09-25 19:06:16.0 Bill: glad you could join us super8mm 2007-09-25 19:06:17.0 Hairfree: cool 2007-09-25 19:06:22.0 Bill: everyone who just entered.... 2007-09-25 19:06:26.0 Bill: feel free to ask any question you have.... 2007-09-25 19:06:34.0 Jotronic: Thanks, Bill. I will. 2007-09-25 19:06:36.0 Bill: Hey Joe! 2007-09-25 19:06:38.0 Jotronic: 2007-09-25 19:06:40.0 Bill: 2007-09-25 19:06:42.0 Jotronic: SUP?! 2007-09-25 19:06:44.0 barley: Bill, this site is great, chock full of useful information. In a shot period of time, I believe I have a decent understanding of the process. I am ready to consult with several NY coalition members soon. 2007-09-25 19:06:55.0 BareBeGone: nyc here 2007-09-25 19:06:57.0 Bill: Barley...I'm glad to hear it! 2007-09-25 19:07:03.0 Bill: I'm glad our community has been a useful tool for you 2007-09-25 19:07:04.0 Hairfree: Whats up Joe 2007-09-25 19:07:10.0 Bill: I also recommend everyone here occasionally check out www.regrowhair.com 2007-09-25 19:07:14.0 Jotronic: Hey brother 2007-09-25 19:07:21.0 Bill: questions are answered daily and posted for everyone to see 2007-09-25 19:07:23.0 Bill: about 2 per day 2007-09-25 19:07:28.0 Bill: you can also search the site 2007-09-25 19:07:31.0 giants: is it too difficult to have a transplant outta state 2007-09-25 19:07:47.0 Hairfree: I left the country for my HT 2007-09-25 19:08:05.0 barley: i spoke too soon 2007-09-25 19:08:07.0 giants: there are alot of visits? 2007-09-25 19:08:08.0 Jotronic: haha 2007-09-25 19:08:26.0 Jotronic: A lot of the people on the forums travel for their HT. 2007-09-25 19:08:29.0 Bill: so just so you all know.... 2007-09-25 19:08:35.0 super8mm: I am from Portland, Oregon. I would like to meet any patient of H&W 2007-09-25 19:08:42.0 Bill: there are multiple chat rooms available on here.....3 currently 2007-09-25 19:08:46.0 Jotronic: super, no problem. 2007-09-25 19:08:54.0 Bill: To join a room, all you have to do is go to "Go Too Room" above 2007-09-25 19:08:56.0 Bill: and choose a room 2007-09-25 19:09:00.0 Jotronic: can you PM me with your phone #? 2007-09-25 19:09:02.0 Bill: you can be in one or multiple chat rooms at a time 2007-09-25 19:09:09.0 super8mm: sure 2007-09-25 19:09:22.0 melina: hi everybody 2007-09-25 19:09:27.0 BareBeGone: hi there 2007-09-25 19:09:29.0 melina: hi joe 2007-09-25 19:09:30.0 Bill: Hello Melina 2007-09-25 19:09:30.0 Jotronic: I'll have our rep in Seattle/Portland give you some names and #'s. 2007-09-25 19:09:43.0 Jotronic: Hi, Melina. 2007-09-25 19:09:44.0 Bill: Hairfree...are you at 6 months post op yet? 2007-09-25 19:09:50.0 melina: i come from argentina 2007-09-25 19:10:10.0 super8mm: that would be great 2007-09-25 19:10:16.0 Bill: welcome to our community Melina. Did you just join? 2007-09-25 19:10:24.0 Hairfree: Bill..Im 6 months on Oct 4th 2007-09-25 19:10:28.0 barley: great site, armed and ready to consult with several NY coalition members 2007-09-25 19:10:30.0 Hairfree: Getting there 2007-09-25 19:10:36.0 melina: i am dr hason s patient 2007-09-25 19:10:46.0 Bill: hairfree...wow, your 5 month pictures were amazing...and your results in person are phenominal 2007-09-25 19:10:46.0 melina: hasson 2007-09-25 19:11:01.0 Bill: Melina...when did you have your surgery? I am a Dr. Hasson patient too...for my third HT 2007-09-25 19:11:05.0 Jotronic: Melina, I remember you. 2007-09-25 19:11:15.0 Jotronic: Dr. Hasson says hello. 2007-09-25 19:11:19.0 melina: 0ctober 04 2007-09-25 19:11:38.0 Bill: Melina, you had your surgery Oct 4th last year? 2007-09-25 19:11:53.0 Hairfree: Thanks Bill! I am happy with the results. Im just an early grower. Everyone is at a different rate. I think that my results are 90% complete right now 2007-09-25 19:12:06.0 melina: hey joe doyou remember me ? 2007-09-25 19:12:19.0 melina: 2004 2007-09-25 19:12:31.0 Bill: Hairfree: As far as new growth, that might be true being an early grower...but there is stil plenty of thickening left to do 2007-09-25 19:12:38.0 barley: anybody having trouble on this chat? 2007-09-25 19:12:48.0 Bill: Barley...I think you are the only one bro 2007-09-25 19:12:54.0 barley: great site, armed and ready to consult with several NY coalition members 2007-09-25 19:13:06.0 BareBeGone: last time it had a hiccup and a number of us were knocked off 2007-09-25 19:13:14.0 Bill: welcome Sanjeev 2007-09-25 19:13:19.0 Sanjeev: hi Bill 2007-09-25 19:13:22.0 Bill: BBG...yes, I remember that...we all got booted I believe 2007-09-25 19:13:36.0 melina: please give me regards to Dr Hasson 2007-09-25 19:13:46.0 Bill: just FYI, there is another conversation going on in the "Hair Loss Treatments" forum as well about NIzoral and other hair loss treatments 2007-09-25 19:13:49.0 melina: my regards 2007-09-25 19:14:17.0 Bill: so.... 2007-09-25 19:14:18.0 Hairfree: Cool, im looking forward to the thickening to come 2007-09-25 19:14:30.0 Bill: so since we are relatively quiet right now.... 2007-09-25 19:14:32.0 BareBeGone: so I'm coming up to about 7 weeks...waiting.. waiting... 2007-09-25 19:14:43.0 Bill: I came up with a list of topics to potentially discuss for anyone who is interested participating... 2007-09-25 19:14:49.0 Hairfree: Should I be using Nizoral Bill? 2007-09-25 19:14:50.0 Bill: of course...any specific questions can be asked at any time 2007-09-25 19:14:58.0 Sanjeev: Bill, is it possible to get response from any doc on wether a follicle remains in miniature mode or dies off after some period 2007-09-25 19:15:11.0 Hairfree: Hang in there Barebegone, best is to come 2007-09-25 19:15:12.0 Bill: Does anyone want to share how hair loss has impacted them? 2007-09-25 19:15:15.0 Sanjeev: I mean coalition doc 2007-09-25 19:15:25.0 BareBeGone: thank you, hairfree 2007-09-25 19:15:31.0 Bill: Hairfree....you don't have to use NIzoral....unless you feel you want to 2007-09-25 19:15:42.0 BareBeGone: hair loss or hair gain? 2007-09-25 19:15:43.0 Bill: BBG...the doldrums are hard bro 2007-09-25 19:16:01.0 Sanjeev: what is that we are discussing abt Nizoral 2007-09-25 19:16:01.0 Bill: Sanjeev....ah yes...I believe I posted on that thread 2007-09-25 19:16:04.0 Hairfree: Is Nizoral good shampoo? 2007-09-25 19:16:06.0 Bill: perhaps somebody here has a good answer to that one 2007-09-25 19:16:08.0 BareBeGone: I'm either wearing hats everywhere or isolating myself a bit.. 2007-09-25 19:16:16.0 Bill: speaking of doctors! 2007-09-25 19:16:21.0 Bill: Welcome Dr. Epstein! 2007-09-25 19:16:23.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: hi guys 2007-09-25 19:16:33.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thought i'd check out this chat 2007-09-25 19:16:36.0 Bill: It's good to see you here doctor! 2007-09-25 19:16:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: pleasure 2007-09-25 19:16:41.0 BareBeGone: welcome 2007-09-25 19:16:43.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thanks 2007-09-25 19:16:50.0 melina: t 2007-09-25 19:16:55.0 Hairfree: Before my HT I was always concerned about the wind messing it up 2007-09-25 19:17:17.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...I have a question for you recently discussed on our community 2007-09-25 19:17:20.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: sure 2007-09-25 19:17:21.0 Hairfree: I meant my hair getting messed up 2007-09-25 19:17:31.0 BareBeGone: well,yeah - tired of combovers and hair spray - want to go waterskiing eventually and not have to worry about what's showing 2007-09-25 19:17:34.0 Bill: in my research I have found that there are two answers to this question....both contradictory 2007-09-25 19:17:38.0 Hairfree: because it was so thin, now its holds up well! 2007-09-25 19:17:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: ok 2007-09-25 19:17:57.0 Bill: there has been talk as to whether a not a hair that is miniaturizing truly dies or just remains in a very miniaturized state 2007-09-25 19:18:02.0 Bill: I have heard both answers 2007-09-25 19:18:06.0 melina: dear friends what about the rogaine foam ? 2007-09-25 19:18:17.0 Hairfree: good topic 2007-09-25 19:18:25.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in response to your question Bill 2007-09-25 19:18:27.0 Bill: of course...depending on the answer.... 2007-09-25 19:18:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: typically theminiaturized hairs are those that are on their way out 2007-09-25 19:18:40.0 Bill: I proposed that certain hair loss treatments or future "cures" may or may not work 2007-09-25 19:18:44.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: now of course propecia can keep them around 2007-09-25 19:18:55.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in fact can reverse to some degree the miniaturizatio 2007-09-25 19:18:56.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: n 2007-09-25 19:19:03.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: when we are doing transpalnts 2007-09-25 19:19:16.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: we sometimes see, especially in quite young patients 2007-09-25 19:19:25.0 NervousNelly: hey don't you guys have anything better to do? 2007-09-25 19:19:26.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: especially those less than 27 or so years old 2007-09-25 19:19:28.0 Bill: welcome NN 2007-09-25 19:19:35.0 Hairfree: Good to see you on here Dr. Epstein 2007-09-25 19:19:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that there are a fair number of miniaturized hairs inthe donor tissue 2007-09-25 19:19:43.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thanks hairfree 2007-09-25 19:19:58.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: these miniaturized hairs are almost sure going to be gone in a few years 2007-09-25 19:19:59.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...that makes a lot of sense 2007-09-25 19:20:12.0 barley: Dr Epstein; how often do you work in NYC? 2007-09-25 19:20:13.0 Bill: now when you say "gone" does the hair follicle completely disappear? 2007-09-25 19:20:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: these are those patients on whom i really encourage propecia 2007-09-25 19:20:22.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: eventually- yes 2007-09-25 19:20:25.0 Bill: welcome Mike! 2007-09-25 19:20:37.0 Mike1651: Hi Bill...thanks! 2007-09-25 19:20:38.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thebulb lasts a while 2007-09-25 19:20:45.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: but hthere is no active follicle 2007-09-25 19:20:47.0 giants: so there are places when the hair is dead.... 2007-09-25 19:20:49.0 NervousNelly: Does that mean that it is fruitless with propecia/rogaine? 2007-09-25 19:20:50.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thus the hair no longer grows 2007-09-25 19:21:05.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: besides the floor? i mean the place where the hairs go when they are dead- joke 2007-09-25 19:21:08.0 Bill: I think it's safe then to say...Propecia and/or Rogaine will work up to a point 2007-09-25 19:21:09.0 Hairfree: Dr. Epstein I know you prob wont remember me but I was seriously considering going with you for my HT, I was scheduling last minute because I am a teacher and you had a full schedule. You were kind to try to make it work for me 2007-09-25 19:21:19.0 BareBeGone: what is that white tiny little "bally" type of thing that sometimes forms around the time you are losing hair? 2007-09-25 19:21:23.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: not sure hairfree 2007-09-25 19:21:26.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i think i do 2007-09-25 19:21:29.0 Bill: lol 2007-09-25 19:21:34.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: did you wind up having a procedure? 2007-09-25 19:21:37.0 Hairfree: lol 2007-09-25 19:21:59.0 NervousNelly: Hairfree looks great 2007-09-25 19:22:00.0 Hairfree: Yes, I filled in last min cancelation with Dr. Rahal 2007-09-25 19:22:11.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: hope it went well 2007-09-25 19:22:19.0 barley: Dr Epstein; how often do you work in NYC? 2007-09-25 19:22:25.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein....thanks for the information on that. So the bulb then...does that stick around forever even though there is no active follicle? 2007-09-25 19:22:30.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and when you're ready for your next procedure, you will be sure to contact me directly if you want to get an appointment 2007-09-25 19:22:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i am in my nyc office every 3 to 4 weeks 2007-09-25 19:22:40.0 giants: doc there is alot of speculation on how long rogiane works some say only 2 or 3 years, is this generally the case or is that rare 2007-09-25 19:22:46.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in fact will be there this thursday and friday 2007-09-25 19:22:49.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: to see lots ofconsults 2007-09-25 19:22:58.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and perform procedures 2007-09-25 19:23:21.0 Hairfree: I had 3500 grafts, I am happy with the results. Thank you Dr. Epstein! Keep up your good work 2007-09-25 19:23:21.0 NervousNelly: your work is top notch doc 2007-09-25 19:23:28.0 barley: is there any benefit to having a procedure in NYC vs Miami since it seems that you have a major facility in Miami 2007-09-25 19:23:34.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: Bill- to answer your qeustion- the bulb can stick around for a long time 2007-09-25 19:23:38.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: no one is quite sure how long 2007-09-25 19:23:46.0 Hairfree: thats interesting 2007-09-25 19:23:58.0 Bill: I think that might be wear the contrasting information has been displayed 2007-09-25 19:24:01.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: quite frankly, i don't consider myself an absolute expert in bulb physiology 2007-09-25 19:24:07.0 Hairfree: are there any recent break thrus with medicine to help regrow hair? 2007-09-25 19:24:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: rather i really consider myself a surgeon 2007-09-25 19:24:19.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: breakthrus? no 2007-09-25 19:24:24.0 Bill: I think some believe that because the bulb sticks around for a long time, that hair loss medication may still have an effect - though rare 2007-09-25 19:24:31.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that's right Bill 2007-09-25 19:24:44.0 Bill: that makes sense 2007-09-25 19:24:51.0 Hairfree: makes sense 2007-09-25 19:24:53.0 BareBeGone: is the bulb that little white bally thing that you can feel in your fingers? 2007-09-25 19:24:56.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i like to think of propecia as life support 2007-09-25 19:24:57.0 Bill: so it seems to me that it is best to at least give the medication a try 2007-09-25 19:25:07.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: use it for 5 to 7 years until a better cure comes around 2007-09-25 19:25:09.0 Bill: to see if it does anything - because even miniaturized hairs below the scalp may still regrow 2007-09-25 19:25:13.0 Sanjeev: I have been advised my doc (Dr.Roy Jones) that to get on propecia for next 6 months and then to take a decision on procedure. But I want to cover up my scalp until then. What is the best way to go about it. Shave off compltely or ... 2007-09-25 19:25:18.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: yes- there is little downside to tryng the meds 2007-09-25 19:25:26.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...good analogy 2007-09-25 19:25:41.0 Bill: the downside is the potential for side effects 2007-09-25 19:25:42.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: whywouldyou shave your head sanjeev? 2007-09-25 19:25:50.0 Bill: which is why I recommend everyone research and be familiar with them ahead of time 2007-09-25 19:25:52.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: very low incidence of side effects 2007-09-25 19:26:05.0 Hairfree: So far no side effects for me 2007-09-25 19:26:05.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i recommend every other day use of propecia if there are any side effects 2007-09-25 19:26:08.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: good 2007-09-25 19:26:13.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...agreed. But I also believe an educated patient makes better decisions 2007-09-25 19:26:19.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: absolutely 2007-09-25 19:26:24.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and this is a great way to become educated 2007-09-25 19:26:24.0 Bill: as long as they don't give into the hype and scare tactics out there 2007-09-25 19:26:27.0 Bill: welcome MIckey312 2007-09-25 19:26:28.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: absolutely 2007-09-25 19:26:29.0 barley: same here,no AEs 2007-09-25 19:26:41.0 mickey312: Hi 2007-09-25 19:26:47.0 Sanjeev: I hate being so cautious abt hair. wind might screw up ur cover. 2007-09-25 19:26:48.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: for example, there is now some surgeon who insists his patients go on bariatric oxygentherapy 2007-09-25 19:26:54.0 NervousNelly: Hey mickey 2007-09-25 19:26:58.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: no scientific evidence, only a high price tag 2007-09-25 19:27:01.0 Sanjeev: so trying to figure out a way not to look bald 2007-09-25 19:27:15.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: then cut your hair quite short sanjeev 2007-09-25 19:27:18.0 Hairfree: With Propecia..does hair regrow by breaking thru the scalp? 2007-09-25 19:27:29.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and feel free to send a few photos my way- i can give you some advice if you wish 2007-09-25 19:27:30.0 Bill: just so you all know...you can change the color of your text from the default green 2007-09-25 19:27:31.0 Hairfree: like transplanted hairs? 2007-09-25 19:27:41.0 Bill: use the color palette next to where you type 2007-09-25 19:27:47.0 Hairfree: This better? 2007-09-25 19:27:55.0 Bill: Hairfree...it can 2007-09-25 19:27:58.0 barley: I just started Propecia/Rogaine. Is it generally necessary to wait to see results prior to having an HT 2007-09-25 19:28:01.0 Sanjeev: thats i what I did. but I had very high hair loss last week and now I can see my scalp 2007-09-25 19:28:15.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: ah, i lostyou all 2007-09-25 19:28:18.0 Bill: If Propecia reverses the miniaturization process....any miniaturized hairs below the scalp can break through 2007-09-25 19:28:25.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that's right 2007-09-25 19:28:30.0 Hairfree: interesting 2007-09-25 19:28:32.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: orbecome stronger 2007-09-25 19:28:39.0 Hairfree: can it cause pimples? 2007-09-25 19:28:46.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: no 2007-09-25 19:28:47.0 Bill: the more miniaturized the hair, the less likely medication will reverse it... 2007-09-25 19:28:51.0 Bill: but i'ts possible 2007-09-25 19:28:59.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in fact, propecia reduces pimple formation on the face, potentialy 2007-09-25 19:29:03.0 Sanjeev: I cut my hair short. but last week I had huge hair loss and now my scalp is visible. So I need some immediate cover up 2007-09-25 19:29:04.0 Bill: It shouldn't cause pimples because of the pores in the skin 2007-09-25 19:29:16.0 Hairfree: Really 2007-09-25 19:29:17.0 Bill: unlike transplanted hairs 2007-09-25 19:29:22.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that'sright 2007-09-25 19:29:30.0 Bill: that are breaking through for the first time 2007-09-25 19:29:33.0 giants: doc, what do you think the future has in store for hair loss 2007-09-25 19:29:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: well 2007-09-25 19:29:45.0 Hairfree: lol, I meant on the scalp. Pimples from hairs breaking thru 2007-09-25 19:29:47.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: better graft storage solutions 2007-09-25 19:29:51.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: for more rapid regrowth 2007-09-25 19:30:00.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: second, better adjuvant meds 2007-09-25 19:30:09.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and of course in 7 to 10 yars 2007-09-25 19:30:11.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: years 2007-09-25 19:30:14.0 Bill: one thing I'd love to see.... 2007-09-25 19:30:17.0 Bill: in hair restoration surgery.... 2007-09-25 19:30:17.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: perhaps gene therapy 2007-09-25 19:30:22.0 Bill: is for a doctor to find a way.... 2007-09-25 19:30:33.0 Bill: to prevent the hairs from going into the telogen phase 2007-09-25 19:30:33.0 giants: to clone some damn hairs.. 2007-09-25 19:30:40.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: absolutely 2007-09-25 19:30:45.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: sounds good barley 2007-09-25 19:30:48.0 Bill: giants...that's not really on the surgical end 2007-09-25 19:30:49.0 Hairfree: I have a couple pimples on my scalp where I had the HT, is that from the propecia or the actual HT? Im at 6 months 2007-09-25 19:30:52.0 Bill: but important 2007-09-25 19:30:52.0 Sanjeev: Doc, does the meds like 7% minoxidil, 15% minoxidil work? 2007-09-25 19:30:53.0 giants: yeah im playing 2007-09-25 19:31:05.0 Bill: giants 2007-09-25 19:31:05.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: hairfree- you should apply some warm compresses to the pimples 2007-09-25 19:31:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and likely they represent hairs that are starting to emerge 2007-09-25 19:31:13.0 Bill: Jotronic is awful quiet! 2007-09-25 19:31:21.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: albeit it is a bit late 2007-09-25 19:31:28.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: but can occur at this late a point 2007-09-25 19:31:36.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: althou more likely to happen at 3 months 2007-09-25 19:31:40.0 giants: doc are you familiar with the actice ingrediant adenosine which is used in follicas new product 2007-09-25 19:31:43.0 Bill: I had pimples form up to 8 months or so 2007-09-25 19:31:49.0 Hairfree: Cool, thanks you for answering my questions 2007-09-25 19:31:55.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: as far as higher strength minoxidil 2007-09-25 19:32:03.0 BareBeGone: I'm about 7 weeks out from the operation, Dr. Epstein, and I was starting to get some pimples - might some be coming out that early - I do have some hairs from previous transplants coming out though.. 2007-09-25 19:32:04.0 giants: i know its not a surgical question 2007-09-25 19:32:09.0 Hairfree: I was just wondering if it was from the results of the propecia or the HT 2007-09-25 19:32:31.0 Bill: BBG...this is normal 2007-09-25 19:32:36.0 Hairfree: I had a lot of pimples at the 3 month mark. Im glad that phase is long over. I felt like a teenager again! 2007-09-25 19:32:47.0 Bill: typically pimples can start up to one month or even more before growth breaks through the skin 2007-09-25 19:33:05.0 Bill: Welcome back Barley...sorry you are having internet connection problems 2007-09-25 19:33:07.0 BareBeGone: ok, thanks 2007-09-25 19:33:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: yep 2007-09-25 19:33:27.0 Hairfree: yea, my pimples on scalp lasted from 4 to 10 week mark 2007-09-25 19:33:27.0 giants: doc do you its ok for a 17 year old to get on propecia 2007-09-25 19:33:41.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: typical 2007-09-25 19:33:45.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and yes fo rthe 17 year ol 2007-09-25 19:33:53.0 giants: ok 2007-09-25 19:34:02.0 Bill: welcome anajj 2007-09-25 19:34:03.0 barley: Hopefully I can particpate. I guess I can ask Dr. when I consult with him on Thurs 2007-09-25 19:34:04.0 Bill: welcome back NN 2007-09-25 19:34:17.0 Hairfree: Good to see you NN
  21. Hello everyone, As many of you know, our community has recently started providing live chat every Tuesday evening at 10:00pm. I have had a number of requested both publicly and privately to post this past Tuesday's chat transcript. Not only did we have many forum members (veteran and new), but we were joined by two of our coalition physicians, Dr. Hasson and Dr. Epstein. What an amazing experience to have professional input at our immediate disposal. Below is the live chat transcript from Tuesday evening 9/25/2007. It is long and possibly confusing to follow. But since many have requested it, I have posted it. The Live Chat Transcript is Below: ---------------------------------- 2007-09-25 18:11:14.0 melina: hi 2007-09-25 18:40:56.0 giants: if its not mr crouse 2007-09-25 18:41:30.0 giants: just as i suspected 2007-09-25 18:44:33.0 giants: Bill my man 2007-09-25 18:44:56.0 Bill: Hey Giants 2007-09-25 18:45:04.0 Bill: I see there are a few early arrivers like myself 2007-09-25 18:45:11.0 giants: i was cutting my hair yesterday and accidently shaved it bald! 2007-09-25 18:45:18.0 giants: absurd 2007-09-25 18:45:32.0 Bill: wasn't it already shaved down to a 1 clip? 2007-09-25 18:45:34.0 giants: i left kinda a mohalk down the middle 2007-09-25 18:45:39.0 Bill: it doesn't get much shorter than that 2007-09-25 18:45:40.0 Bill: oh! 2007-09-25 18:45:41.0 giants: yea hbut this was a 0 2007-09-25 18:45:45.0 Bill: my friend John shaves his head bald 2007-09-25 18:45:51.0 giants: 0 gets practically bald 2007-09-25 18:45:59.0 Bill: yeah...zero is quite short 2007-09-25 18:46:00.0 giants: you can barly see hair 2007-09-25 18:46:17.0 Bill: yeah I know...I've done that before 2007-09-25 18:46:45.0 giants: the look inst the end of the world but i look alot better with hiar 2007-09-25 18:47:08.0 Bill: well I always thought I looked better with hair too which is why I had 3 transplants 2007-09-25 18:47:11.0 giants: wouldnt it have been great if people said i looked better bald 2007-09-25 18:47:31.0 giants: that just doesnt jhappen 2007-09-25 18:47:35.0 Bill: well the shaved head does look good on you from what I've seen 2007-09-25 18:47:54.0 giants: yeah its cool but have had alot of recen recesstion 2007-09-25 18:48:10.0 giants: id keep the 1 shave over anything else even if i had all my hair 2007-09-25 18:48:20.0 Bill: I did notice that from your picture...but then again, that was the first time I saw it at that angle 2007-09-25 18:48:54.0 giants: it diddnt decive you its gotten worst im on the foam twice a day and nizoral 7 times a week 2007-09-25 18:49:12.0 Bill: well I hope crouse comes back when we start 2007-09-25 18:49:18.0 giants: hell be back 2007-09-25 18:49:26.0 giants: if i know crouse which i dont hell come back 2007-09-25 18:49:40.0 Bill: yeah, I hope so 2007-09-25 18:49:46.0 Bill: well...perhaps you are experiencing a shed 2007-09-25 18:50:01.0 giants: naw recession is never a shed 2007-09-25 18:50:12.0 Bill: not the recession... 2007-09-25 18:50:19.0 Bill: I'm referring to the thinning on top 2007-09-25 18:50:20.0 giants: have you heard of follicas new product dermenodex 2007-09-25 18:50:24.0 Bill: behind where it has receeded 2007-09-25 18:50:49.0 giants: does it look thin behind where it has recceded? 2007-09-25 18:51:08.0 Bill: from what I saw in the one picture I thought it did. Perhaps it was the lighting or angle 2007-09-25 18:51:15.0 Bill: but I guess I'll have to look again 2007-09-25 18:51:34.0 giants: ill show you again 2007-09-25 18:51:42.0 giants: later 2007-09-25 18:52:04.0 Bill: yeah...I have it somewhere....I'll find it 2007-09-25 18:52:49.0 Bill: doesn't look like you have a problem with the ladies though 2007-09-25 18:53:01.0 giants: not as of now 2007-09-25 18:53:15.0 giants: but i can predict a probem in the futer 2007-09-25 18:53:24.0 giants: its also just knowing your not the man you once were 2007-09-25 18:53:36.0 Bill: hair does not make the man 2007-09-25 18:53:45.0 giants: i know 2007-09-25 18:53:51.0 Bill: I know plenty of bald men (NW6) who shave their head and still get beautiful women 2007-09-25 18:53:53.0 Bill: welcome barley! 2007-09-25 18:54:04.0 giants: its not just about hooking up with girls as it was about getting complimented 2007-09-25 18:54:12.0 giants: hows it going barly 2007-09-25 18:54:21.0 Bill: well sure...and it's how you feel about yourself 2007-09-25 18:54:24.0 giants: it just gives you confidence 2007-09-25 18:54:25.0 Bill: trust me bro...I've been there 2007-09-25 18:54:28.0 barley: GREETINGS TO YOU ALL 2007-09-25 18:54:30.0 Bill: I felt sorry for myself for years 2007-09-25 18:54:35.0 Bill: glad you could join us barley 2007-09-25 18:54:38.0 giants: yeah i feel you on that one 2007-09-25 18:54:46.0 Bill: only 3 of us right now, but I trust that this room will get busy soon 2007-09-25 18:54:59.0 Bill: we are currently talking about how hair loss has impacted us 2007-09-25 18:55:11.0 giants: Bill have you heard anything about follicas new product dermendex 2007-09-25 18:55:27.0 Bill: no I have not 2007-09-25 18:55:33.0 Bill: is it out on the market? 2007-09-25 18:55:39.0 giants: yeah 2007-09-25 18:55:40.0 Bill: or a projected product 2007-09-25 18:56:10.0 Bill: Barley...feel free to jump in bro 2007-09-25 18:56:30.0 giants: you can order it, its active ingrediant is adenosine 2007-09-25 18:57:11.0 Bill: what is adenosine supposed to do? Is it a DHT inhibitor? 2007-09-25 18:57:22.0 Bill: and it hasn't been FDA approved for haiir loss 2007-09-25 18:57:29.0 Bill: was it something I said? 2007-09-25 18:57:38.0 giants: no to be honist im still doing research on it 2007-09-25 18:57:49.0 Bill: yeah...feel free to post anything you find on the forum 2007-09-25 18:58:50.0 giants: is there anything real interesting in the intercytex report 2007-09-25 18:59:24.0 Bill: well...I know there was a report due yesterday. I haven't actually taken the time to read it yet - assuming it's even out 2007-09-25 18:59:58.0 Bill: welcome Paul! 2007-09-25 19:00:08.0 Paul L.: thanks 2007-09-25 19:00:08.0 Bill: glad you could join us 2007-09-25 19:00:14.0 Bill: are you new to our community? 2007-09-25 19:00:29.0 Paul L.: I haven't been here in awhile 2007-09-25 19:00:42.0 Bill: oh...well we are glad to have you back 2007-09-25 19:00:48.0 Bill: did you get the email? 2007-09-25 19:01:03.0 Paul L.: had 3 sessions - considering a 4th to finish up 2007-09-25 19:01:08.0 Paul L.: yes I got it 2007-09-25 19:01:19.0 giants: the report is out 2007-09-25 19:01:21.0 Bill: yeah, I goofed up the email at first and accidentally put last week's date! 2007-09-25 19:01:28.0 Bill: who was your doctor Paul? 2007-09-25 19:01:32.0 Paul L.: no problem 2007-09-25 19:01:43.0 Paul L.: beehner in ny state 2007-09-25 19:01:45.0 Bill: sounds like you are in the same boat as me....3 hair transplants and will probably have a 4th in a couple years 2007-09-25 19:01:58.0 Bill: Did he perform all 3 of your procedures? 2007-09-25 19:02:02.0 Bill: Welcome Hairfree! 2007-09-25 19:02:05.0 Paul L.: yes 2007-09-25 19:02:07.0 Bill: glad you could join us! 2007-09-25 19:02:14.0 Hairfree: Hello! 2007-09-25 19:02:15.0 Bill: Paul, how many grafts did you receive? 2007-09-25 19:02:23.0 Bill: for all 3 sessions combined? 2007-09-25 19:02:28.0 Bill: and what was your level of loss? 2007-09-25 19:02:41.0 Bill: Hairfree...I talked with your doctor over email the last couple days 2007-09-25 19:02:48.0 Paul L.: probably around 1500 each time - 4500 2007-09-25 19:02:52.0 Bill: Welcome BBG! 2007-09-25 19:02:58.0 Hairfree: Really..What was the topic? 2007-09-25 19:03:17.0 Bill: welcome back Barley 2007-09-25 19:03:26.0 Bill: Paul, what was your level of loss? 2007-09-25 19:03:28.0 BareBeGone: hi there, Bill! and everyone 2007-09-25 19:03:34.0 Bill: and how do you like your results with Dr. Beehner? 2007-09-25 19:03:48.0 Paul L.: good considering I was a 7 2007-09-25 19:03:50.0 Bill: Hairfree...just chit chatting really... 2007-09-25 19:03:56.0 Bill: I had to crop some photos for him on Pat's recent album 2007-09-25 19:04:06.0 Hairfree: Cool, Rahal seemed like a nice guy 2007-09-25 19:04:06.0 Bill: Paul...wow...that's great 2007-09-25 19:04:11.0 Bill: have you posted some photos? 2007-09-25 19:04:25.0 Hairfree: Did you mentioned me to Rahal? 2007-09-25 19:04:25.0 Bill: Glad you could join us BBG 2007-09-25 19:04:33.0 Paul L.: thinking of having either beehner of hasson do the last 2007-09-25 19:04:35.0 Bill: looks like Barley is having internet issues 2007-09-25 19:04:49.0 barley: yes, but I am OK for now 2007-09-25 19:04:58.0 Bill: Hairfree: actually he brought your name up...thanked me for helping you 2007-09-25 19:05:01.0 Bill: I told him it was my pleasure 2007-09-25 19:05:08.0 Bill: glad to hear it Barley 2007-09-25 19:05:32.0 Bill: welcome Melina 2007-09-25 19:05:36.0 Bill: welcome super8mm 2007-09-25 19:05:39.0 Hairfree: Thats great, I mentioned you to Rahal. He said he knew you. That was back in April 2007-09-25 19:05:57.0 super8mm: Hi everyone 2007-09-25 19:06:00.0 Bill: I think Dr. Rahal has known OF me for awhile now 2007-09-25 19:06:07.0 Hairfree: lol 2007-09-25 19:06:08.0 Bill: but we only just had the opportunity to speak via email recently 2007-09-25 19:06:16.0 Bill: glad you could join us super8mm 2007-09-25 19:06:17.0 Hairfree: cool 2007-09-25 19:06:22.0 Bill: everyone who just entered.... 2007-09-25 19:06:26.0 Bill: feel free to ask any question you have.... 2007-09-25 19:06:34.0 Jotronic: Thanks, Bill. I will. 2007-09-25 19:06:36.0 Bill: Hey Joe! 2007-09-25 19:06:38.0 Jotronic: 2007-09-25 19:06:40.0 Bill: 2007-09-25 19:06:42.0 Jotronic: SUP?! 2007-09-25 19:06:44.0 barley: Bill, this site is great, chock full of useful information. In a shot period of time, I believe I have a decent understanding of the process. I am ready to consult with several NY coalition members soon. 2007-09-25 19:06:55.0 BareBeGone: nyc here 2007-09-25 19:06:57.0 Bill: Barley...I'm glad to hear it! 2007-09-25 19:07:03.0 Bill: I'm glad our community has been a useful tool for you 2007-09-25 19:07:04.0 Hairfree: Whats up Joe 2007-09-25 19:07:10.0 Bill: I also recommend everyone here occasionally check out www.regrowhair.com 2007-09-25 19:07:14.0 Jotronic: Hey brother 2007-09-25 19:07:21.0 Bill: questions are answered daily and posted for everyone to see 2007-09-25 19:07:23.0 Bill: about 2 per day 2007-09-25 19:07:28.0 Bill: you can also search the site 2007-09-25 19:07:31.0 giants: is it too difficult to have a transplant outta state 2007-09-25 19:07:47.0 Hairfree: I left the country for my HT 2007-09-25 19:08:05.0 barley: i spoke too soon 2007-09-25 19:08:07.0 giants: there are alot of visits? 2007-09-25 19:08:08.0 Jotronic: haha 2007-09-25 19:08:26.0 Jotronic: A lot of the people on the forums travel for their HT. 2007-09-25 19:08:29.0 Bill: so just so you all know.... 2007-09-25 19:08:35.0 super8mm: I am from Portland, Oregon. I would like to meet any patient of H&W 2007-09-25 19:08:42.0 Bill: there are multiple chat rooms available on here.....3 currently 2007-09-25 19:08:46.0 Jotronic: super, no problem. 2007-09-25 19:08:54.0 Bill: To join a room, all you have to do is go to "Go Too Room" above 2007-09-25 19:08:56.0 Bill: and choose a room 2007-09-25 19:09:00.0 Jotronic: can you PM me with your phone #? 2007-09-25 19:09:02.0 Bill: you can be in one or multiple chat rooms at a time 2007-09-25 19:09:09.0 super8mm: sure 2007-09-25 19:09:22.0 melina: hi everybody 2007-09-25 19:09:27.0 BareBeGone: hi there 2007-09-25 19:09:29.0 melina: hi joe 2007-09-25 19:09:30.0 Bill: Hello Melina 2007-09-25 19:09:30.0 Jotronic: I'll have our rep in Seattle/Portland give you some names and #'s. 2007-09-25 19:09:43.0 Jotronic: Hi, Melina. 2007-09-25 19:09:44.0 Bill: Hairfree...are you at 6 months post op yet? 2007-09-25 19:09:50.0 melina: i come from argentina 2007-09-25 19:10:10.0 super8mm: that would be great 2007-09-25 19:10:16.0 Bill: welcome to our community Melina. Did you just join? 2007-09-25 19:10:24.0 Hairfree: Bill..Im 6 months on Oct 4th 2007-09-25 19:10:28.0 barley: great site, armed and ready to consult with several NY coalition members 2007-09-25 19:10:30.0 Hairfree: Getting there 2007-09-25 19:10:36.0 melina: i am dr hason s patient 2007-09-25 19:10:46.0 Bill: hairfree...wow, your 5 month pictures were amazing...and your results in person are phenominal 2007-09-25 19:10:46.0 melina: hasson 2007-09-25 19:11:01.0 Bill: Melina...when did you have your surgery? I am a Dr. Hasson patient too...for my third HT 2007-09-25 19:11:05.0 Jotronic: Melina, I remember you. 2007-09-25 19:11:15.0 Jotronic: Dr. Hasson says hello. 2007-09-25 19:11:19.0 melina: 0ctober 04 2007-09-25 19:11:38.0 Bill: Melina, you had your surgery Oct 4th last year? 2007-09-25 19:11:53.0 Hairfree: Thanks Bill! I am happy with the results. Im just an early grower. Everyone is at a different rate. I think that my results are 90% complete right now 2007-09-25 19:12:06.0 melina: hey joe doyou remember me ? 2007-09-25 19:12:19.0 melina: 2004 2007-09-25 19:12:31.0 Bill: Hairfree: As far as new growth, that might be true being an early grower...but there is stil plenty of thickening left to do 2007-09-25 19:12:38.0 barley: anybody having trouble on this chat? 2007-09-25 19:12:48.0 Bill: Barley...I think you are the only one bro 2007-09-25 19:12:54.0 barley: great site, armed and ready to consult with several NY coalition members 2007-09-25 19:13:06.0 BareBeGone: last time it had a hiccup and a number of us were knocked off 2007-09-25 19:13:14.0 Bill: welcome Sanjeev 2007-09-25 19:13:19.0 Sanjeev: hi Bill 2007-09-25 19:13:22.0 Bill: BBG...yes, I remember that...we all got booted I believe 2007-09-25 19:13:36.0 melina: please give me regards to Dr Hasson 2007-09-25 19:13:46.0 Bill: just FYI, there is another conversation going on in the "Hair Loss Treatments" forum as well about NIzoral and other hair loss treatments 2007-09-25 19:13:49.0 melina: my regards 2007-09-25 19:14:17.0 Bill: so.... 2007-09-25 19:14:18.0 Hairfree: Cool, im looking forward to the thickening to come 2007-09-25 19:14:30.0 Bill: so since we are relatively quiet right now.... 2007-09-25 19:14:32.0 BareBeGone: so I'm coming up to about 7 weeks...waiting.. waiting... 2007-09-25 19:14:43.0 Bill: I came up with a list of topics to potentially discuss for anyone who is interested participating... 2007-09-25 19:14:49.0 Hairfree: Should I be using Nizoral Bill? 2007-09-25 19:14:50.0 Bill: of course...any specific questions can be asked at any time 2007-09-25 19:14:58.0 Sanjeev: Bill, is it possible to get response from any doc on wether a follicle remains in miniature mode or dies off after some period 2007-09-25 19:15:11.0 Hairfree: Hang in there Barebegone, best is to come 2007-09-25 19:15:12.0 Bill: Does anyone want to share how hair loss has impacted them? 2007-09-25 19:15:15.0 Sanjeev: I mean coalition doc 2007-09-25 19:15:25.0 BareBeGone: thank you, hairfree 2007-09-25 19:15:31.0 Bill: Hairfree....you don't have to use NIzoral....unless you feel you want to 2007-09-25 19:15:42.0 BareBeGone: hair loss or hair gain? 2007-09-25 19:15:43.0 Bill: BBG...the doldrums are hard bro 2007-09-25 19:16:01.0 Sanjeev: what is that we are discussing abt Nizoral 2007-09-25 19:16:01.0 Bill: Sanjeev....ah yes...I believe I posted on that thread 2007-09-25 19:16:04.0 Hairfree: Is Nizoral good shampoo? 2007-09-25 19:16:06.0 Bill: perhaps somebody here has a good answer to that one 2007-09-25 19:16:08.0 BareBeGone: I'm either wearing hats everywhere or isolating myself a bit.. 2007-09-25 19:16:16.0 Bill: speaking of doctors! 2007-09-25 19:16:21.0 Bill: Welcome Dr. Epstein! 2007-09-25 19:16:23.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: hi guys 2007-09-25 19:16:33.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thought i'd check out this chat 2007-09-25 19:16:36.0 Bill: It's good to see you here doctor! 2007-09-25 19:16:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: pleasure 2007-09-25 19:16:41.0 BareBeGone: welcome 2007-09-25 19:16:43.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thanks 2007-09-25 19:16:50.0 melina: t 2007-09-25 19:16:55.0 Hairfree: Before my HT I was always concerned about the wind messing it up 2007-09-25 19:17:17.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...I have a question for you recently discussed on our community 2007-09-25 19:17:20.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: sure 2007-09-25 19:17:21.0 Hairfree: I meant my hair getting messed up 2007-09-25 19:17:31.0 BareBeGone: well,yeah - tired of combovers and hair spray - want to go waterskiing eventually and not have to worry about what's showing 2007-09-25 19:17:34.0 Bill: in my research I have found that there are two answers to this question....both contradictory 2007-09-25 19:17:38.0 Hairfree: because it was so thin, now its holds up well! 2007-09-25 19:17:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: ok 2007-09-25 19:17:57.0 Bill: there has been talk as to whether a not a hair that is miniaturizing truly dies or just remains in a very miniaturized state 2007-09-25 19:18:02.0 Bill: I have heard both answers 2007-09-25 19:18:06.0 melina: dear friends what about the rogaine foam ? 2007-09-25 19:18:17.0 Hairfree: good topic 2007-09-25 19:18:25.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in response to your question Bill 2007-09-25 19:18:27.0 Bill: of course...depending on the answer.... 2007-09-25 19:18:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: typically theminiaturized hairs are those that are on their way out 2007-09-25 19:18:40.0 Bill: I proposed that certain hair loss treatments or future "cures" may or may not work 2007-09-25 19:18:44.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: now of course propecia can keep them around 2007-09-25 19:18:55.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in fact can reverse to some degree the miniaturizatio 2007-09-25 19:18:56.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: n 2007-09-25 19:19:03.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: when we are doing transpalnts 2007-09-25 19:19:16.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: we sometimes see, especially in quite young patients 2007-09-25 19:19:25.0 NervousNelly: hey don't you guys have anything better to do? 2007-09-25 19:19:26.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: especially those less than 27 or so years old 2007-09-25 19:19:28.0 Bill: welcome NN 2007-09-25 19:19:35.0 Hairfree: Good to see you on here Dr. Epstein 2007-09-25 19:19:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that there are a fair number of miniaturized hairs inthe donor tissue 2007-09-25 19:19:43.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thanks hairfree 2007-09-25 19:19:58.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: these miniaturized hairs are almost sure going to be gone in a few years 2007-09-25 19:19:59.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...that makes a lot of sense 2007-09-25 19:20:12.0 barley: Dr Epstein; how often do you work in NYC? 2007-09-25 19:20:13.0 Bill: now when you say "gone" does the hair follicle completely disappear? 2007-09-25 19:20:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: these are those patients on whom i really encourage propecia 2007-09-25 19:20:22.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: eventually- yes 2007-09-25 19:20:25.0 Bill: welcome Mike! 2007-09-25 19:20:37.0 Mike1651: Hi Bill...thanks! 2007-09-25 19:20:38.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thebulb lasts a while 2007-09-25 19:20:45.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: but hthere is no active follicle 2007-09-25 19:20:47.0 giants: so there are places when the hair is dead.... 2007-09-25 19:20:49.0 NervousNelly: Does that mean that it is fruitless with propecia/rogaine? 2007-09-25 19:20:50.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: thus the hair no longer grows 2007-09-25 19:21:05.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: besides the floor? i mean the place where the hairs go when they are dead- joke 2007-09-25 19:21:08.0 Bill: I think it's safe then to say...Propecia and/or Rogaine will work up to a point 2007-09-25 19:21:09.0 Hairfree: Dr. Epstein I know you prob wont remember me but I was seriously considering going with you for my HT, I was scheduling last minute because I am a teacher and you had a full schedule. You were kind to try to make it work for me 2007-09-25 19:21:19.0 BareBeGone: what is that white tiny little "bally" type of thing that sometimes forms around the time you are losing hair? 2007-09-25 19:21:23.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: not sure hairfree 2007-09-25 19:21:26.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i think i do 2007-09-25 19:21:29.0 Bill: lol 2007-09-25 19:21:34.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: did you wind up having a procedure? 2007-09-25 19:21:37.0 Hairfree: lol 2007-09-25 19:21:59.0 NervousNelly: Hairfree looks great 2007-09-25 19:22:00.0 Hairfree: Yes, I filled in last min cancelation with Dr. Rahal 2007-09-25 19:22:11.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: hope it went well 2007-09-25 19:22:19.0 barley: Dr Epstein; how often do you work in NYC? 2007-09-25 19:22:25.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein....thanks for the information on that. So the bulb then...does that stick around forever even though there is no active follicle? 2007-09-25 19:22:30.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and when you're ready for your next procedure, you will be sure to contact me directly if you want to get an appointment 2007-09-25 19:22:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i am in my nyc office every 3 to 4 weeks 2007-09-25 19:22:40.0 giants: doc there is alot of speculation on how long rogiane works some say only 2 or 3 years, is this generally the case or is that rare 2007-09-25 19:22:46.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in fact will be there this thursday and friday 2007-09-25 19:22:49.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: to see lots ofconsults 2007-09-25 19:22:58.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and perform procedures 2007-09-25 19:23:21.0 Hairfree: I had 3500 grafts, I am happy with the results. Thank you Dr. Epstein! Keep up your good work 2007-09-25 19:23:21.0 NervousNelly: your work is top notch doc 2007-09-25 19:23:28.0 barley: is there any benefit to having a procedure in NYC vs Miami since it seems that you have a major facility in Miami 2007-09-25 19:23:34.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: Bill- to answer your qeustion- the bulb can stick around for a long time 2007-09-25 19:23:38.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: no one is quite sure how long 2007-09-25 19:23:46.0 Hairfree: thats interesting 2007-09-25 19:23:58.0 Bill: I think that might be wear the contrasting information has been displayed 2007-09-25 19:24:01.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: quite frankly, i don't consider myself an absolute expert in bulb physiology 2007-09-25 19:24:07.0 Hairfree: are there any recent break thrus with medicine to help regrow hair? 2007-09-25 19:24:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: rather i really consider myself a surgeon 2007-09-25 19:24:19.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: breakthrus? no 2007-09-25 19:24:24.0 Bill: I think some believe that because the bulb sticks around for a long time, that hair loss medication may still have an effect - though rare 2007-09-25 19:24:31.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that's right Bill 2007-09-25 19:24:44.0 Bill: that makes sense 2007-09-25 19:24:51.0 Hairfree: makes sense 2007-09-25 19:24:53.0 BareBeGone: is the bulb that little white bally thing that you can feel in your fingers? 2007-09-25 19:24:56.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i like to think of propecia as life support 2007-09-25 19:24:57.0 Bill: so it seems to me that it is best to at least give the medication a try 2007-09-25 19:25:07.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: use it for 5 to 7 years until a better cure comes around 2007-09-25 19:25:09.0 Bill: to see if it does anything - because even miniaturized hairs below the scalp may still regrow 2007-09-25 19:25:13.0 Sanjeev: I have been advised my doc (Dr.Roy Jones) that to get on propecia for next 6 months and then to take a decision on procedure. But I want to cover up my scalp until then. What is the best way to go about it. Shave off compltely or ... 2007-09-25 19:25:18.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: yes- there is little downside to tryng the meds 2007-09-25 19:25:26.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...good analogy 2007-09-25 19:25:41.0 Bill: the downside is the potential for side effects 2007-09-25 19:25:42.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: whywouldyou shave your head sanjeev? 2007-09-25 19:25:50.0 Bill: which is why I recommend everyone research and be familiar with them ahead of time 2007-09-25 19:25:52.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: very low incidence of side effects 2007-09-25 19:26:05.0 Hairfree: So far no side effects for me 2007-09-25 19:26:05.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: i recommend every other day use of propecia if there are any side effects 2007-09-25 19:26:08.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: good 2007-09-25 19:26:13.0 Bill: Dr. Epstein...agreed. But I also believe an educated patient makes better decisions 2007-09-25 19:26:19.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: absolutely 2007-09-25 19:26:24.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and this is a great way to become educated 2007-09-25 19:26:24.0 Bill: as long as they don't give into the hype and scare tactics out there 2007-09-25 19:26:27.0 Bill: welcome MIckey312 2007-09-25 19:26:28.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: absolutely 2007-09-25 19:26:29.0 barley: same here,no AEs 2007-09-25 19:26:41.0 mickey312: Hi 2007-09-25 19:26:47.0 Sanjeev: I hate being so cautious abt hair. wind might screw up ur cover. 2007-09-25 19:26:48.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: for example, there is now some surgeon who insists his patients go on bariatric oxygentherapy 2007-09-25 19:26:54.0 NervousNelly: Hey mickey 2007-09-25 19:26:58.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: no scientific evidence, only a high price tag 2007-09-25 19:27:01.0 Sanjeev: so trying to figure out a way not to look bald 2007-09-25 19:27:15.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: then cut your hair quite short sanjeev 2007-09-25 19:27:18.0 Hairfree: With Propecia..does hair regrow by breaking thru the scalp? 2007-09-25 19:27:29.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and feel free to send a few photos my way- i can give you some advice if you wish 2007-09-25 19:27:30.0 Bill: just so you all know...you can change the color of your text from the default green 2007-09-25 19:27:31.0 Hairfree: like transplanted hairs? 2007-09-25 19:27:41.0 Bill: use the color palette next to where you type 2007-09-25 19:27:47.0 Hairfree: This better? 2007-09-25 19:27:55.0 Bill: Hairfree...it can 2007-09-25 19:27:58.0 barley: I just started Propecia/Rogaine. Is it generally necessary to wait to see results prior to having an HT 2007-09-25 19:28:01.0 Sanjeev: thats i what I did. but I had very high hair loss last week and now I can see my scalp 2007-09-25 19:28:15.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: ah, i lostyou all 2007-09-25 19:28:18.0 Bill: If Propecia reverses the miniaturization process....any miniaturized hairs below the scalp can break through 2007-09-25 19:28:25.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that's right 2007-09-25 19:28:30.0 Hairfree: interesting 2007-09-25 19:28:32.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: orbecome stronger 2007-09-25 19:28:39.0 Hairfree: can it cause pimples? 2007-09-25 19:28:46.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: no 2007-09-25 19:28:47.0 Bill: the more miniaturized the hair, the less likely medication will reverse it... 2007-09-25 19:28:51.0 Bill: but i'ts possible 2007-09-25 19:28:59.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: in fact, propecia reduces pimple formation on the face, potentialy 2007-09-25 19:29:03.0 Sanjeev: I cut my hair short. but last week I had huge hair loss and now my scalp is visible. So I need some immediate cover up 2007-09-25 19:29:04.0 Bill: It shouldn't cause pimples because of the pores in the skin 2007-09-25 19:29:16.0 Hairfree: Really 2007-09-25 19:29:17.0 Bill: unlike transplanted hairs 2007-09-25 19:29:22.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: that'sright 2007-09-25 19:29:30.0 Bill: that are breaking through for the first time 2007-09-25 19:29:33.0 giants: doc, what do you think the future has in store for hair loss 2007-09-25 19:29:39.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: well 2007-09-25 19:29:45.0 Hairfree: lol, I meant on the scalp. Pimples from hairs breaking thru 2007-09-25 19:29:47.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: better graft storage solutions 2007-09-25 19:29:51.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: for more rapid regrowth 2007-09-25 19:30:00.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: second, better adjuvant meds 2007-09-25 19:30:09.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and of course in 7 to 10 yars 2007-09-25 19:30:11.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: years 2007-09-25 19:30:14.0 Bill: one thing I'd love to see.... 2007-09-25 19:30:17.0 Bill: in hair restoration surgery.... 2007-09-25 19:30:17.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: perhaps gene therapy 2007-09-25 19:30:22.0 Bill: is for a doctor to find a way.... 2007-09-25 19:30:33.0 Bill: to prevent the hairs from going into the telogen phase 2007-09-25 19:30:33.0 giants: to clone some damn hairs.. 2007-09-25 19:30:40.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: absolutely 2007-09-25 19:30:45.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: sounds good barley 2007-09-25 19:30:48.0 Bill: giants...that's not really on the surgical end 2007-09-25 19:30:49.0 Hairfree: I have a couple pimples on my scalp where I had the HT, is that from the propecia or the actual HT? Im at 6 months 2007-09-25 19:30:52.0 Bill: but important 2007-09-25 19:30:52.0 Sanjeev: Doc, does the meds like 7% minoxidil, 15% minoxidil work? 2007-09-25 19:30:53.0 giants: yeah im playing 2007-09-25 19:31:05.0 Bill: giants 2007-09-25 19:31:05.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: hairfree- you should apply some warm compresses to the pimples 2007-09-25 19:31:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and likely they represent hairs that are starting to emerge 2007-09-25 19:31:13.0 Bill: Jotronic is awful quiet! 2007-09-25 19:31:21.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: albeit it is a bit late 2007-09-25 19:31:28.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: but can occur at this late a point 2007-09-25 19:31:36.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: althou more likely to happen at 3 months 2007-09-25 19:31:40.0 giants: doc are you familiar with the actice ingrediant adenosine which is used in follicas new product 2007-09-25 19:31:43.0 Bill: I had pimples form up to 8 months or so 2007-09-25 19:31:49.0 Hairfree: Cool, thanks you for answering my questions 2007-09-25 19:31:55.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: as far as higher strength minoxidil 2007-09-25 19:32:03.0 BareBeGone: I'm about 7 weeks out from the operation, Dr. Epstein, and I was starting to get some pimples - might some be coming out that early - I do have some hairs from previous transplants coming out though.. 2007-09-25 19:32:04.0 giants: i know its not a surgical question 2007-09-25 19:32:09.0 Hairfree: I was just wondering if it was from the results of the propecia or the HT 2007-09-25 19:32:31.0 Bill: BBG...this is normal 2007-09-25 19:32:36.0 Hairfree: I had a lot of pimples at the 3 month mark. Im glad that phase is long over. I felt like a teenager again! 2007-09-25 19:32:47.0 Bill: typically pimples can start up to one month or even more before growth breaks through the skin 2007-09-25 19:33:05.0 Bill: Welcome back Barley...sorry you are having internet connection problems 2007-09-25 19:33:07.0 BareBeGone: ok, thanks 2007-09-25 19:33:13.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: yep 2007-09-25 19:33:27.0 Hairfree: yea, my pimples on scalp lasted from 4 to 10 week mark 2007-09-25 19:33:27.0 giants: doc do you its ok for a 17 year old to get on propecia 2007-09-25 19:33:41.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: typical 2007-09-25 19:33:45.0 Jeffrey Epstein MD, FACS: and yes fo rthe 17 year ol 2007-09-25 19:33:53.0 giants: ok 2007-09-25 19:34:02.0 Bill: welcome anajj 2007-09-25 19:34:03.0 barley: Hopefully I can particpate. I guess I can ask Dr. when I consult with him on Thurs 2007-09-25 19:34:04.0 Bill: welcome back NN 2007-09-25 19:34:17.0 Hairfree: Good to see you NN
  22. John M, I would talk to Dr. Feller to be sure, but the oozing you are experiencing after only 1 day from the transplant could just be some extra blood/fluid in the scalp making it's way to the surface. I hope you will take your time to share your experience and photos with us on our discussion forum. I also encourage you to create a hair loss weblog. Best wishes, Bill
  23. Hi, I am 36 years and my hair is starting falling three years ago. Now its noticeable and i am starting looking into hair transplant. I have tired propecia for a year and now i am on Rogaine. I don't see any improvement or stabilize my hair falling. Through this website i was able to search two surgeon in my area and was wondering if anyone had any experience with either one of them and their techniques. Any recommendation with other surgeons would be great as well. Dr. Nakatsui performs large sessions of ultra refined follicular units using the lateral slit technique with extremely natural results. Thomas Chung Wai Nakatsui, MD Suite 200, 9670 - 142 Street Edmonton Alberta Dr. John Gillespie exclusively performs all microscopically prepared follicular unit hair transplantation with excellent results. Gillespie Hair Restoration Clinic 5116 ??“ Elbow Drive SW Calgary Alberta
  24. So i got some information from both doctors and they both claimed that their method is one of the best in the world. Dr. Nakatsui gave me a rough price for $2-$6 per graft - He said i need to 2000 = around $9000 Dr. John Gillespie quoted me "Price is dependent on the number of grafts you receive and ranges between $4000 - $10,000". Let me know how much you guys pay for your and who is your doctor. My other location that i can go are bay area or san jose. My sister leave there so i can stay there for couple of weeks. Any suggestions?
  25. Hi, I am 36 years and my hair is starting falling three years ago. Now its noticeable and i am starting looking into hair transplant. I have tired propecia for a year and now i am on Rogaine. I don't see any improvement or stabilize my hair falling. Through this website i was able to search two surgeon in my area and was wondering if anyone had any experience with either one of them and their techniques. Any recommendation with other surgeons would be great as well. Dr. Nakatsui performs large sessions of ultra refined follicular units using the lateral slit technique with extremely natural results. Thomas Chung Wai Nakatsui, MD Suite 200, 9670 - 142 Street Edmonton Alberta Dr. John Gillespie exclusively performs all microscopically prepared follicular unit hair transplantation with excellent results. Gillespie Hair Restoration Clinic 5116 ??“ Elbow Drive SW Calgary Alberta
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