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  1. Dr. Wong was an excellent choice, congrats! Design and work looks meticulous. Continued success healing and growing.
  2. I wasn't going to post anything, but given that this forum reaches so many people that are ultimately making a life changing decision - perhaps some context as to why who you choose matters might be useful. I'm in my early thirties. About 7 years ago I had a consultation with Dr. Rahal in Ottawa (with him in person) - at which time I had A LOT more hair and he had indicated I was not a good candidate for HT surgery and I was sent off. I was pretty devastated, and over the years the progressive loss became worse to the point where I decided to try his clinic again to see if technology had changed or they may have a different perspective. I met with one of his patient advisors and all of a sudden I was now a candidate. With MUCH less hair as I was now a NW5A with barely anything left on top (see pics below), they had recommended an FUE procedure with SMP and PRP and hopefully 2500-3000 grafts to be distributed throughout my frontal area and mid scalp (somehow). I found it extremely confusing that now, all of a sudden, I was a candidate - but 7 years ago I wasn't. I decided to take my search online and found Dr. Jerry Wong in Vancouver whose clinic is re-known for mega-sessions and great results. My FaceTime consultation with Dr. Wong sold me on him. He explained why the recommendation by Rahal's clinic was not a good idea in the long term - going through the difference between the FUT and FUE procedure in terms of yields, and the possibility of doing subsequent procedures with FUT and how FUE can destroy donor area for follow up procedures, the risks with SMP essentially turning your head into a big tattoo over time etc. etc. Needless to say, I couldn't have made a better decision avoiding Rahal and seeing Dr. Wong. I know Rahal does amazing work , but it seems like he only wants to do FUE, and to be honest this is not a good idea for an advanced hair loss patient before exhausting your FUT options. PRICE: I was quoted the same at Dr. Rahal for 2500 grafts, with SMP and PRP as I paid for 5300 Grafts with Dr. Wong WITH the possibility of doing a follow up procedure as my donor area won't be tarnished like it would be had I done FUE first. About $20,000, but I received more than double the amount of actual hair moved. See below my before surgery, after surgery and my 6 month post-op photos. I took them after waking up so the hair is all over the place. Months 4 and 5 have been really good in terms of maturity and growth. 5300 grafts. I would say the frontal zone took about 3500, crown 1000 and mid scalp maybe 800? (I am aware that I will need another procedure to fill crown and mid scalp) So far it's going well! Very happy with Dr. Wong and his teams work - and the after service. I'm convinced the reason he can do mega-sessions and other clinics can't is because he's gotta have something like 6-8 techs working with him to extract and assist with placing the grafts. He does every single incision on his own. Guy is a legend, and does things RIGHT!
  3. As most people I have been looking for many years for a Dr. I will feel comfortable doing a FUE procedure. Based on previous reviews I contacted Hasson & Wong clinic to learn more about the procedure and what would be the involvement of Dr. Jerry Wong if I decide to move forward with them. They mentioned, that "FUE technician will harvest the follicular units - Dr Wong will make all incision sites - surgical technicians will implant the follicular units into the slits Dr. Wong has created". Does that means that the premium price you pay for one of the most recognized doctors in the industry are mainly for his incisions? Is this the most important part of a FUE procedure? Is this the same case will all top level doctors? The mainly focus on the incisions and shape and technicians do the harvest + implants? Thank for the help.
  4. This Vancouver-area patient in his early 40’s approached Hasson & Wong in the hopes of restoring density to his frontal zone, mid-scalp and crown. He first began to lose his hair around the age of 25 characterized by recession in the temples and thinning of the crown. Without intervention, Dr. Hasson estimated his likely progression to be a stage 6-7. Upon review of this patient’s case, Dr. Hasson determined that he was a good candidate for a large-scale FUE procedure to address the areas of concern. He also recommended that the patient use Finasteride in order to minimize further hair loss and improve the mid-scalp. During the course of a two-day FUE procedure, Dr. Hasson and his team successfully harvested 4699 grafts that were transplanted into his hairline/frontal zone and crown. Of these grafts, 300 were singles, 2485 were doubles and 1914 were 3-4 hair grafts.These photos were taken approximately 11 months post-op.
  5. Dr. Couto is one of the best the world along with Dr. Konior but they both have a 2 year wait list. Eugenix (1.8€ to 3.6€/graft for surgeries with the doctor present) is getting great results with high norwood patients and they can do 7000 grafts in one surgery unlike other Doctors you were advised. Stay clear from ASMED because their results have not been good and several forum members are complaining of serious unethical treatment post surgery. A patient wrote here at HRN that Asmed told him he would have to speak with their lawyers if he wanted to discuss any further about his overharvesting. I don’t understand how people can recommend this clinic. Other great options for FUE are Dr. Bruno Ferreira (2.5€/graft) and HLC Ankara (2.7€/graft and doing high amounts of beard grafts in one day). If you want to do FUT then talk to Feriduni, Hasson&Wong and Rahal.
  6. If money is no issue, there’s no reason to travel. Hasson and Wong, Dr. Konior, Dr. Cooley, Dr. Gabel, would be good. If you’re only interested in FUE, you’ll need a clinic with experience with norwood 5+. I’d consider Eugenix. I’ve heard Cuoto has a 2 year wait. Now, maybe that’s changed with the coronavirus situation. Idk.
  7. Thanks, I've seen this post. That's why I was considering him at first. Let's see what Hasson and Wong and Ferreira say. I'll keep you guys updated. I tried applying to Hattingen Dr. Muresanu but the website says my picture files are too big. So I'll skip that for now. I'm considering the doctor mentioned in India by Melvin too.
  8. I meant if you are meds for hair loss like Finasteride or minoxidil? When I say strip I mean FUT. Going FUT first would be the best option and would help maximize your donor supply. Why would Dr. Wong not accept your case? I never said that. I think that they would be perfect. If you are absolutely dead set on FUE, you need someone with experience on doing mega-sessions 4 day surgery is a definite NO NO, someone like Eugenix Dr. Arika Bansal and Dr. Pradeep Sethi, check out their results on the forum. Also, take a look at Dr. Bisanga, and Dr. Reddy, he is one of the very best in the UK.
  9. In my opinion, you’re better suited for a large strip and then FUE after. Someone like hasson and wong would knock this out of the park. I like Hattingen Dr. Muresanu as well, he’s also ethical.
  10. What are your goals? You should start your own thread. Do you need a mega session with BHT? Do you need just the hairline done? Also, there’s a distinction between the cheapest and the best. In many regards, Dr. Konior, Hasson and Wong, Dr. Gabel, Dr. Rahal, etc, are considered the best, but obviously they will be more expensive. Dr. Keser, doesn’t use microscopes and a member here complained of multiples in his hairline. For that reason alone, I’d strike him off the list. Dr. Ferreira is good, solid, but I personally don’t think he matches up to the other names I mentioned, at least not yet. That said, I can see him becoming one of the top in due time. He still needs more patient reviews, he’s getting there though. So again, I would suggest posting a separate thread and include your goals, hair loss pictures and we’ll be better to answer your question. There are better surgeons for certain scenarios.
  11. Hello all, I finally bit the bullet. To give everyone a rundown I’m 39 years old this year. I live out of Austin, TX but I’m from closer to the Houston area. I started thinning when I was 18 and I tried everything to slow down the process, admittedly without a lot of knowledge back then. This was 1998 and I didn’t know much about propecia or minoxidil. I tried shampoos and all kinds of gimmicks. I did try propecia and minoxidil liquid but because I didn’t know enough about it and didn’t see immediate results I just stopped and got on with my life. It all started in my crown and then over the course of a decade marched its way forward toward my hairline. While my crown was very noticeably thin my hairline and frontal third stayed noticeably strong until my mid to semi late 20’s. At 24 I went and had my first consultation at a Bosley clinic in Houston and the whole experience made me feel uneasy. The doctor wasn’t really concerned with my crown which is where all the thinning was happening and wanted to lower my hairline which was still a teenage hairline. It was less than four fingers down on my forehead and still really thick. Ah, how I miss that wall of hair... lol. I politely passed but they called me every single day for two years straight trying to get me to come in for the transplant. They wanted to charge me 20K to lower my hairline and sprinkle some grafts in the crown. Knowing what I know now I think back about how they didn’t even bother to mention propecia to help slow loss. Bullet. Dodged. I got married in 2010 which ended really badly very soon after and my hair really started to go after that. Around 2012 I went to Dr Brad Limmer and got on Propecia/biotin/minoxidil foam to slow things down. Sadly he passed away the next year almost to the day of my consultation with him. I’m an actor and I was staying in Houston with a friend in 2014 while filming a movie in Louisiana when someone mentioned Dr. Arocha. I scheduled a consultation and we immediately got on very well. I loved his attitude, how much knowledge he wanted to share, that he was very honest about what we could achieve. I was traveling a lot though and it just wasn’t the right time to pull the trigger. While I traveled around the states for jobs I would schedule consultations with other doctors. I spoke with Feller and Bloxham, Gabel, Hasson and Wong, and others-some through email, FaceTime, in person. Ultimately it came down to me feeling the most comfortable with Arocha although Gabel was pretty close. I’m a diffused thinner and if my father and maternal grandfather are any indication I’m going to end up a 6 on the Norwood’s scale. I was going to go ahead with the procedure last year but my wife (I got married again in 2017) and I found out we were pregnant with twins so I decided to wait until things settled down with them. Side note: I did not stop taking finasteride when we found out we were pregnant and our babies our beautiful and healthy and at the time of this post almost 6 months old. The Big Day! I got to Arocha’s office a little after 7:30 am (traffic in Houston sucks) I signed the paperwork. We took some preop pics. Dr Arocha designed the hairline basically within my existing one. The plan was to work through the existing hairline, fill in the temple corner recession, and bulk up the frontal forelock. We discussed what we would do next year, reassess the front or go ahead and work on the crown. Everybody was really nice. I was visibly nervous and my blood pressure was a little high due to my being a little antsy. The Valium quickly helped out with that. When they were injecting the numbing solution into the back of my scalp I noticed I started shaking and feeling queasy so I spoke up immediately. They turned me over and raised my legs and put ice on my chest. I almost immediately felt better. Dr Arocha was there and cracked a joke about how I was his first patient of the day but probably his 7000th patient altogether so there was really nothing to worry about. TBH I wasn’t nervous about his ability to help me as much as I was just nervous about this giant step I was taking. After this procedure there was no going back. I turned back over when I was ready and they took the strip out. They kept complementing me on how good my donor was however I never got a number from them. I asked but they were just like, “don’t worry, it’s really really good.” I believe I heard say as they were looking at it that it looked like 80 to 90. Dr Arocha started to make the incisions and we talked for awhile before I dozed off and the next thing I know is I’m waking up to salmon kabobs, a killer salad, and potato and black bean soup. I eat up and then I go back to the chair where the techs start to insert the grafts. We chat for quite awhile. Dr Arocha was there for quite a bit of it as he would interject in our conversations. Every once in a while he would remind them about this or that concerning my grafts. I dozed off again and when I woke up we were basically done. They informed me that while I was out they put PRP all over my head. They went over cleaning instructions and we took some post op pics. My wife came in to pick me up and everyone came out to meet our twins. After that we were off and back to Austin. The ride back was pretty rough. There was a lot of pressure in my head and I got a pretty bad headache. Even with the pain pills. It didn’t even last the entire three hour drive though. I’m attaching some pics. Some preop through day two. I don’t have any pics with the design yet. I’m going to speak to Arocha’s office and see if I can get my hands on the hairline design.
  12. You understand that extractions are done by technicians at top clinics like Dr. Lorenzo in Spain, Hasson and Wong, Dr. Rahal, so you’re saying these clinics shouldn’t be considered as top surgeons because of this? It’s very clear on their website who does the work for what tier, in the end it’s up to the patient to decide. Every surgeon has issues with poor growth or bad scarring, literally every single surgeon. What separates the good from the bad is how they treat their patients, and stand by their work. That said, sounds like your mind was made up before hearing from the patient. I feel confident in recommending anyone to Dr. Bansal or Dr. Sethi, because I know they’ll be taken care of and I know they truly care for their patients. I also feel the results speak for themselves.
  13. HRN has never recommended clinics, we recommend surgeons exclusively, it has always been this way. For example, a doctor may work for a clinic, and we may like his work, but if he moves to a different clinic, we would continue recommending him, and not the specific clinic he worked for. We recommend surgeons, if you go on our list, you will see individual surgeons not the clinics. For example, Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong are both individually recommended. I have been told by Dr. Sethi personally, that he creates the hairline recipient sites, even in the lower package, they may need to update their website to add that information. But I believe he’s telling me the truth. So you don’t want to accept them based on the fact that they offer a more affordable tier? If that’s true, then I can accept that. Although, I don’t agree personally. I think it’s a good thing that top doctors are offering more affordable options, while remaining competitive with these low cost FUE clinics that delegate the entire surgery to techs. In the end, as a patient you still have the option to choose to have the work be done exclusively by the surgeons.
  14. It seems to be the same story time and time again. Where can I go for the cheapest surgery? Instead of what doctor gets the best results? You're asking the wrong questions. I think Dr. Bisnaga's clinic in Athens is on par with a lot of the low-cost clinics in Turkey, I would go to him 100x more than anyone on your list. Just my own opinion. People have said i'm biased to surgeon that are recommended, but that's not true. I would also recommend Dr. Ferreira, and Dr. Muresanu, both of whom aren't recommended, they are doing good work. In my opinion, you are better off going the strip route and going to someone like Dr. Muresanu or Hasson and Wong and then finishing off with FUE. If you choose to stick with FUE, I don't think there is a clinic with as many Norwood 6 and above transformations as Eugenix. Definitely take your time and look up real patient reviews on our forum- this is invaluable for research.
  15. For your case, I would also look at Hasson and Wong for strip or Eugenix with Dr. Arika Bansal and Dr. Pradeep Sethi, those two clinics have the most experience with high Norwoods. That said, Dr. Rahal, has an impressive track record, just look at home1212, his results are excellent.
  16. I would check out both Rahal and Hasson and Wong, Dr. Nakatsui was trained by Dr. Wong, and he’s in Alberta. Definitely worth consulting with all 3.
  17. I had my first HT today, and I don’t think I could have chosen a better clinic. I’m sure you all know that H&W is a world class clinic, so I’m not gonna write an essay about what a nice facility they have, what a pleasure it was to meet and work out a plan with Dr. Wong, how attentive his staff was, how well they all work together, etc., etc. Overall, the experience was about as pleasant and professional as one would hope for. One of my biggest concerns was whether approximately 4000 grafts could be harvested from my mediocre donor regions. Especially since another surgeon estimated during an in-person consult that about 2400-2600 grafts was realistic. Well, Dr. Wong came pretty close to what I was looking for, while being careful and conscientious about the donor scar. Based on my laxity, he removed a 1.6cm strip today and harvested 3808 follicles. The strip was 28.5cm long, and he spent 90 minutes removing it. Here’s the breakdown: 1 hair: 639 2 hairs: 2435 3-4 hairs 734 total comes to at least 7701 hairs with an average density of 2 hairs per graft. I believe about 2500 grafts went into the front part, and most of the remainder went in the mid-scalp. He also placed some grafts around the edge of the crown. I’ll get more details about density of the different areas treated when I go to the clinic tomorrow for a follow-up. FYI, I’m at least 75% grey, so I dyed my hair for the procedure. I’ll be going back to grey after the dyed hair grows out. I’m looking forward to having my face framed again, and I’m anxious to see what kind of coverage I get on top. I’m not going to worry about the crown too much, so next year I’ll most likely return for a smaller session to add density to what was done today. I’ve been buzzing my head for the past 10 years, so at 50 years old I’ll be happy to frame my face with a mature hairline and have some coverage on top. I’ll be back at the clinic tomorrow for a washing, so I’ll see if they can email me some post-op pics to share here. I’ll keep you all updated with pics so you can see my progress over the next 12 months or so. I welcome your questions and comments!
  18. Hello guys. I searched for the best doctor for repair HT (1st HT in ASMED, 4500 grafts, very low density in frontal area and terrible shape of hairline + receding vertex). I wrote emails to several doctors and clinics, which I consider the best. The results: Hasson&Wong, Vancouver Canada: 1000 - 1500 grafts to hairline and recomended finasteride for vertex HLC, Ankara Turkey: 1400 - 1800 gafts to hairline, 800 - 1000 to vertex, 2,7 eur/graft, including apartman, food, transfers and medical package Hair of Istanbul, Istanbul Turkey: maximum ammount of grafts, which donor allowed, 5.500,- eur for whole HT, including full service Dr. Feriduni, Hasel Belgium, 2200 - 3000 grafts (hairline + vertex), 11.374,- - 15246,- eur, without any other services Dr. Pekiner, Ankara Turkey: ask for video from my current condition, 2,25 eur/graft, transfers included Dr. Lorenzo, Madrid Spain and Dr.De Freitas, Valencia Spain, asked for personal consultations where they will deside if my donor is suitable for 2nd HT Dr. Couto, Madrid Spain: asked for personal consultation and offered me schedule of consultation in 2021 and surgery in 2023 Dr. Keser, Ankara Turkey, wrote, that according my previous HT and hair loss pattern, he can´t offer me his services I excluded Hasson&Wong (too far from me), Dr. Feriduni (too expensive and his work is not so good like f.e. Couto´s) and Hair of Istanbul (perfect results and good price, but they harvest all possible grafts, like tomorrow never come) The best option seems to be HLC, but I they have published just a few results. What advice would you give me? Thanks for every opinion.
  19. I'm sure some of the loyal posters/followers are sick of reading the answer to this question - but I'm just shy of 5.5 months out of my Transplant with Dr. Jerry Wong in Vancouver, and am curious as to what % of maturity, and sprouting - on average - does one expect by the 6 month mark? Would it be assumed that most of the grafts in the Frontal Zone have sprouted as the crown typically takes longer to grow? Are we at 50% maturity by the 6 month mark? Thanks for your time and commitment to this forum. Cheers.
  20. In my opinion, you would benefit the most from a strip surgery, which means you should stay in North America. The only clinic outside of North America that handle large strip cases is Dr. Muresanu from Hattingen Hair Clinic in Switzerland. My advice is stick with FUT, you will get more bang for your buck, and more hair, once you have stripped out, then you should consider FUE. I would take a look at Hasson and Wong, Dr. Bloxham, Dr. Wesley, True and Dorin, Dr. Cooley, Dr. Gabel, Dr. Rahal, just to name a few.
  21. Please keep this thread on topic all and not about Dr. Lorenzo & Dr. Wong. OP is very angry at his first Turkey hair transplant. OP is now 5 months past repair and has concerns. OP needs to wait until 12 months to see how it looks as approaching half way stage only. Please keep us updated and post good clear photos over the coming months ahead OT90.
  22. Hi Zaxter Was wondering how you're doing and if you have any current pictures to share. I followed your case from the beginning and consider your transformation to be one for the hall of fame. In fact, your case and a handful of others are what finally convinced me to book an in-person consult with Dr. Wong next week ......... it only took 12 years of research lol. I have two questions: 1) What led you to consult with and ultimately choose Dr. Wong as opposed to Dr. Hasson? 2) Do you have any plans to address your crown? Thanks
  23. I've searched enough and I've spoken personally to people who had surgery with him. They just said good things about him. I've looked into every single surgery he did, that were published online, and I liked all of his results, apart from two: one was a thread of a user that has published his story here and another one is an Italian guy who had a less than optimal result, but still a good one. All the others were really good. I've seen an amazing crown reconstructions by him and that's what I was more interested into. Also there's a thread by an Italian guy who did 12 hair transplants (yes 12), one including the really expensive Dr. Wong. And he said Dr Pekiner was his last one and best so far. More expensive doesn't mean always better by any chance. Pekiner seems to have all the requisites to do a good job: manual FUE, stick and place, split the surgery on more days and he uses high end equipment. Then it's a surgery still, and God knows if it's gonna go all well or not.
  24. @ready4Hair currently the rock stars are Dr. Juan Couto in Madrid that is booked solid until 2024 and Dr. Raymond Konior in Chicago with a 2 year wait list and crazy expensive. Konior colleague at his Chicago clinic - Dr. Nadimi - is also great and charges a lower price 6US/graft. Then you have the rising star Dr. Bruno Ferreira that works with Dr. Lorenzo in Madrid and has his own clinic in Porto (2.5€/graft). Hasson&Wong is still achieving amazing results but they do have techs do part of the surgery (amazing techs but still techs). For mega sessions Eugenix is considered the best choice and Dr. Arika charges 1.8€/graft but it’s not a Doctor only surgery. They are getting amazing results with high norwood patients in just 1 surgery (using beard grafts to add density like Pekiner and HLC). Stay clear from ASMED and any Turkish doctor or clinic other than HLC (2.7€/graft) and Pekiner (2.25€/graft). I tend to always recommend Doctors that do the whole surgery themselves implanting using stick&place or DHI technique and operating on just 1 patient day. Wish you all the best!
  25. Hello guys. I also search for the best doctor for repair HT (1st HT in ASMED, 4500 grafts, very low density in frontal area and terrible shape of hairline) + receding vertex). I wrote emails to several doctors and clinics, which I consider the best. The results: Hasson&Wong, Vancouver Canada: 1000 - 1500 grafts to hairline and recomended finasteride for vertex HLC, Ankara Turkey: 1400 - 1800 gafts to hairline, 800 - 1000 to vertex, 2,7 eur/graft, including apartman, food, transfers and medical package Hair of Istanbul: maximum ammount of grafts, which donor allowed, 5.500,- eur for whole HT, including full service Dr. Feriduni, Hasel Belgium, 2200 - 3000 grafts (hairline + vertex), 11.374,- - 15246,- eur, without any other services Dr. Pekiner, Ankara Turkey: ask for video from my current condition, 2,25 eur/graft, transfers included Dr. Lorenzo, Madrid Spain and Dr.De Freitas, Valencia Spain, ask for personal consultations where they will deside if my donor is suitable for 2nd HT Dr. Couto, Madrid Spain didn´t answear for 2 and half months and just wrote me that according thousands emails weekly, they write off continuously and I have to wait. He has waiting list till 2024 and he actually don´t take new patients Dr. Keser, Ankara Turkey, wrote, that according my previous HT and hair loss pattern, he can´t offer me his services I excluded Hasson&Wong (too far from me), Feriduni (too expensive and his work is not so good like f.e. Couto´s) and Hair of Istanbul (perfect results and good price, but they harvest all possible grafts, like tomorrow never come) The best option seems to be HLC, but I they have published just a few results. What advice would you give me? Thanks for every opinion.
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