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Hello all, I finally bit the bullet. To give everyone a rundown I’m 39 years old this year. I live out of Austin, TX but I’m from closer to the Houston area. I started thinning when I was 18 and I tried everything to slow down the process, admittedly without a lot of knowledge back then. This was 1998 and I didn’t know much about propecia or minoxidil. I tried shampoos and all kinds of gimmicks. I did try propecia and minoxidil liquid but because I didn’t know enough about it and didn’t see immediate results I just stopped and got on with my life. It all started in my crown and then over the course of a decade marched its way forward toward my hairline. While my crown was very noticeably thin my hairline and frontal third stayed noticeably strong until my mid to semi late 20’s. At 24 I went and had my first consultation at a Bosley clinic in Houston and the whole experience made me feel uneasy. The doctor wasn’t really concerned with my crown which is where all the thinning was happening and wanted to lower my hairline which was still a teenage hairline. It was less than four fingers down on my forehead and still really thick. Ah, how I miss that wall of hair... lol. I politely passed but they called me every single day for two years straight trying to get me to come in for the transplant. They wanted to charge me 20K to lower my hairline and sprinkle some grafts in the crown. Knowing what I know now I think back about how they didn’t even bother to mention propecia to help slow loss. Bullet. Dodged. I got married in 2010 which ended really badly very soon after and my hair really started to go after that. Around 2012 I went to Dr Brad Limmer and got on Propecia/biotin/minoxidil foam to slow things down. Sadly he passed away the next year almost to the day of my consultation with him. I’m an actor and I was staying in Houston with a friend in 2014 while filming a movie in Louisiana when someone mentioned Dr. Arocha. I scheduled a consultation and we immediately got on very well. I loved his attitude, how much knowledge he wanted to share, that he was very honest about what we could achieve. I was traveling a lot though and it just wasn’t the right time to pull the trigger. While I traveled around the states for jobs I would schedule consultations with other doctors. I spoke with Feller and Bloxham, Gabel, Hasson and Wong, and others-some through email, FaceTime, in person. Ultimately it came down to me feeling the most comfortable with Arocha although Gabel was pretty close. I’m a diffused thinner and if my father and maternal grandfather are any indication I’m going to end up a 6 on the Norwood’s scale. I was going to go ahead with the procedure last year but my wife (I got married again in 2017) and I found out we were pregnant with twins so I decided to wait until things settled down with them. Side note: I did not stop taking finasteride when we found out we were pregnant and our babies our beautiful and healthy and at the time of this post almost 6 months old. The Big Day! I got to Arocha’s office a little after 7:30 am (traffic in Houston sucks) I signed the paperwork. We took some preop pics. Dr Arocha designed the hairline basically within my existing one. The plan was to work through the existing hairline, fill in the temple corner recession, and bulk up the frontal forelock. We discussed what we would do next year, reassess the front or go ahead and work on the crown. Everybody was really nice. I was visibly nervous and my blood pressure was a little high due to my being a little antsy. The Valium quickly helped out with that. When they were injecting the numbing solution into the back of my scalp I noticed I started shaking and feeling queasy so I spoke up immediately. They turned me over and raised my legs and put ice on my chest. I almost immediately felt better. Dr Arocha was there and cracked a joke about how I was his first patient of the day but probably his 7000th patient altogether so there was really nothing to worry about. TBH I wasn’t nervous about his ability to help me as much as I was just nervous about this giant step I was taking. After this procedure there was no going back. I turned back over when I was ready and they took the strip out. They kept complementing me on how good my donor was however I never got a number from them. I asked but they were just like, “don’t worry, it’s really really good.” I believe I heard say as they were looking at it that it looked like 80 to 90. Dr Arocha started to make the incisions and we talked for awhile before I dozed off and the next thing I know is I’m waking up to salmon kabobs, a killer salad, and potato and black bean soup. I eat up and then I go back to the chair where the techs start to insert the grafts. We chat for quite awhile. Dr Arocha was there for quite a bit of it as he would interject in our conversations. Every once in a while he would remind them about this or that concerning my grafts. I dozed off again and when I woke up we were basically done. They informed me that while I was out they put PRP all over my head. They went over cleaning instructions and we took some post op pics. My wife came in to pick me up and everyone came out to meet our twins. After that we were off and back to Austin. The ride back was pretty rough. There was a lot of pressure in my head and I got a pretty bad headache. Even with the pain pills. It didn’t even last the entire three hour drive though. I’m attaching some pics. Some preop through day two. I don’t have any pics with the design yet. I’m going to speak to Arocha’s office and see if I can get my hands on the hairline design. -
Hair Loss with Pics (Seek advice)
Fluffhead replied to Corbyn's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
1) If you're losing your hair, you should be on finasteride. For me it's an open and shut case. Dr. Arika mentioned that she strongly urges all hair transplant candidates to get on finasteride and stabilize before undergoing surgery. Doing so helps minimize shock loss. If you're not taking finasteride, hairs that were already susceptible to miniaturization might not recover fully after the surgery. 2) Having been through a surgery, I have no idea how you'd get a massage during the process. I think a round of PRP would be helpful though. 3) I'm about a week post op, and unless you'd undergone a mega session I see no reason why you'd need to be so closely monitored. Just follow the doctor's post op instructions to the letter, and you should be fine. I would, however, allow myself 2-3 days post op before jumping back on an international flight. The dry air in the cabin and change in air pressure is uncomfortable when your head and forehead are swollen due to the local anesthetic. Furthermore, with over head bins opening and closing you're more likely to sustain damage to your grafts. My advice would be to hunker down in a hotel room, spray the saline solution by the clock, take your meds, do the massages and keep your head uncovered. 4) You are not long gone. I've seen miracles worked on the forum. It all depends on your expectations. Are you going to have a full head of hair like you did at 18? Absolutely not. Is your journey going to be expensive? Probably. Get on finasteride, stabilize and in the meantime plan out your surgery. Do a few consultations, get a feel for what various doctors are recommending and then take the plunge. I wish I'd done mine sooner. 5) Theoretically, the transplanted hair shouldn't fall out, but as in life YMMV. In your case, most doctors will recommend FUT. You'll probably need 2 surgeries to get you where you want to be. Pretty sure the Eugenix team will recommend the DHT method because that's what they specialize in, but you should set up an appointment to ask them yourself. I would get several opinions and then make the most informed decision possible. 6) Yes, and it's not as big a deal as you think. It soon becomes a habit. 7) I agree with you here. I do, however, feel that you have to look at where the patient starts. Dense coverage is difficult to achieve in a NW5-6. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think you could make the same arguments for just about every surgeon on this forum with the exception perhaps being Hasson and Wong. You'll pay 5-6x the price though. I had a great experience with Eugenix, but I'm not fully endorsing them until I see my final result. You need to get on finasteride, so you'll have a chance to wait and see. 9) Dr Arika and Dr. Pradeep do not follow each other around. They go where the surgeries are. Their staff is adept at cluster scheduling, so the doctors aren't moving day to day. Dr. Arika said she performs 1 and at the max 2 surgeries per day (if they're smaller procedures). She is a workaholic and enjoys doing 15 days or more in a row. She said that when she does lots of surgeries she gets into a groove. I asked her this specific question during my consultation. She mentioned that in December they only took 1 day off because there was so much demand. I wouldn't worry about doctor fatigue. 10) The price didn't increase. They added a new tier. The new tier has Dr. Arika doing the hairline implantation herself. Everything else remains the same. Let me know if you have further questions! -
Hi everyone. Im 42 years old and have been thinning in my crown area for over 15 years. It has stabilized for the most part. I am doing some research but it seems there are not as many crown before/after photos from the physicians results pages... Based on what I have seen I have narrowed it down to Dr. Wesley, Dr. Wong, and Dr. Arocha. Who would you recommend for the crown area? Thank you in advance for you help
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Recommended for Crown restoratoin
Melvin-Moderator replied to golf54's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
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Are you on any medication to prevent further hair loss? I would take a look at Dr. Gabel, Hasson and Wong just to name a few.
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After much delay, my apologies, here is my story, finally. I had a disappointing hair transplant with Dr. Baubac of Alvi Armani a couple of years ago. I am going to keep this short and simple. Stats: NW2-3, allegedly 2,500 FUE grafts at Beverly Hills office. (Dislcaimer: I am not an expert and the following are just my personal opinions) The good: Price was somewhat negotiable Procedure and experience was comfortable The bad: Poor yield Uneven hairline Poor hair angulation of hair that did yield Patchy, overharvested donor area Scalp fibrosis in transplant area, resulting in raised scalp Nobody from patient care or Alvi Armani contacted me post op! A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) was suddenly provided to me on the morning of my surgery. Who would back out this close to a surgery if they didn't like what was in the NDA, especially if they travelled from out of town? Seems unfair to me. 1. Poor yield Two years post op. 2. Uneven hairline I can't believe this would happen. The new hairline was initially felt-marked in (as is standard practice with all HT surgeons), seemingly quickly. I noticed the assymetry immediately post op and told the nurse. She dismissed it as being due to swelling. Well, after all the swelling had gone down, the assymetry remained. In the following photo, I put in a line to show the uneven temples. However, the assymetry begins before the temples. This was taken a few days post op. The assymetry is more noticeable in real life and especially at certain angles. 3. Poor angulation It's difficult at times to style the hairline, as it seems the angulation is all over the place and the cowlick that I had was not transplanted out, which is what Hasson and Wong say is the norm for a good transplant. As a side note, there is one transplant that has four or five hairs coming out of one hole and is noticeable close up. Very unnatural looking. The following photo is taken in the morning (obvious bed head), but I can't find a better photo that shows the bad angulation. I'll see about taking a macro photo. 4. Patchy, overharvested areas of donor area With a number 2 or 3 buzz, the donor area reveals patches that you can see in certain lighting/angle situations. Even at the time of the surgery, I felt the harvesting was rather quickly done. PHOTOS TO COME 5. Scalp fibrosis in transplant area, resulting in raised scalp Not sure if other transplantees know what I am talking about here, but it's like there is this raised, slightly hardened tissue in the transplant area that actually raises the scalp. It's lumpy, probably due to deep tissue scarring or something. PHOTOS TO COME (However, it may be difficult ot show this) 6. Nobody from patient care or Alvi Armani contacted me post op! What more needs to be said? 7. A non-disclosure agreement (NDA) was suddenly provided to me on the morning of my surgery. Who would back out this close to a surgery if they didn't like what was in the NDA, especially if they travelled from out of town? Seems unfair to me. Some highlights from the surprise Armani NDA. Conclusion: I asked Dr. Baubac for a refund and they refused. Instead, they offered to do the transplant again (at no cost to me), to which I declined. Baubac biz card that I received while at his office: -
Hi All, I am 34 years old and had my first FUT HT procedure in 2011. I had the procedure done with Dr. Wong and had approximately ~4000 grafts put in. Even at that time, I had pretty serious thinning from the front hairline to the crown. I have pretty thin hair and we focused our efforts on the front 1/3 of my scalp, then the crown and left the mid-section between front and crown relatively untouched. At the time, I wanted to lower my hairline as well, however because my hairline was already so receded, it was recommended to have a higher hairline and focus on density. I've been on Propecia since then as well. As my native hairs have slowly been falling out (despite Propecia) I have been thinking about repeating a second HT procedure, this time with the FUE method. My scar has healed very well however I'd still prefer the FUE procedure. I know Dr. Wong is very skilled and I will be reaching out again, however I wanted to get your thoughts on other docs to consider. I currently live in NYC. I know that my hair is pretty thin so I have realistic goals as to density and fullness. My main goals right now are to fill in the crown area (pretty large bald spot at this point), lower the front hairline, and strengthen the thinning hair behind the front hairline as well. Please let me know your thoughts and if you have any recommendations! Thank you!
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Would like to see the FUE extraction zone on this one if you got it. 35K USD right there. That's like 4 boob jobs and 7 nose jobs! 😆 It just seems unreal in terms of pricing! 4500 FUT would be 17.5K USD This patient's ratio of 2 hair and 3-4 hair grafts to 1 hair grafts must be in the 3rd standard deviation of patients. OR w/a 1st FUE one can really cherry pick higher graft follicular units whilst still keeping the spacing really spread out. I am going to get scar revision via FUT w/H&W (1000K grafts) probably summertime w/Dr. Wong (had a consult w/their rep in Toronto Feb '19). Regardless of my reluctance to finish my hair restoration career w/ the more expensive FUE - I'll probably end up going w/H&W for FUE as well. Love their work - gotta' reach deep into the wallet though. It's that damn Canadian markup!!! Ha! Us Americans don't even get the 30% exchange rate reduction. $1 USD equals $1.30 CAD -
@Melvin-Moderator I don’t know yet if I’m happy with my surgery because I’m still waiting for the results. Also, I’m not affiliated with any of these Doctors and in the case of Dr. Bruno Ferreira, Dr. Ximena and Dr. Demirsoy (not a fan but he is cheap) I’m not even their patient and recommend them solely based on price/technique vs results here in this forum. I think there better Doctors than the ones I’m recommending here but I just don’t think there are better Doctors charging less. Please correct me if I am wrong as myself and a lot of people surely will appreciate knowing about other best value Doctors. In 2008 when I had surgery with Dr. Rahal I spent years recommending him and Hasson&Wong constantly because they had the best results in this forum and were cheaper than many US Doctors, in those days no moderator said I was coming off as salesman. I guess things have changed since those days but I will stand by my comments until I am proven wrong and hope you can allow me to continue to recommend best value Doctors that I believe can achieve a great results and not make us pay an arm and a leg for them. If you or any one else disagrees with me, that’s great, so let me know which Doctors you guys think is doing amazing surgeries with great results at 2.5€/grafts or less because while knowing who’s the Elite is important it’s also important to know who does the surgery like the Elite with results on the same level of the Elite but charging us much less. I would really appreciate it if you and more members could contribute with the prices and the techniques of the Doctors you think can achieve good results at more affordable prices (minimum wage in Portugal is 600USD/month so here we are all very much geared towards value for money).
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Hello Everyone, Many of you may know me formerly as 'literalno'. I want to preface by saying that username was made in complete negativity before I knew anything about hair transplants and what they can do for people. I was aimlessly searching for answers to my fears associated with propecia and stumbled across a particularly unsightly before/after ultimately assuaging me from ever becoming one of "those hair transplant guys"; hence literal(ly)no(never). I decided to make this thread around the 6 month mark ( I am now a little closer to 7) to promote good vibes for the second leg of the process since I am quite frankly not at my end goal, but very optimistic for what should be the most productive leg of this often tumultuous journey. Much of my skepticism stems from how my hairloss occurred in the first place, and the measures I have taken thus far to fix it. It started very suddenly a few years ago during a rough time in my life. I was going through a tough period and the stress seemed to spur its onset seemingly overnight. I knew what had happened, but everyone around me obviously assured me "its all in your head" (yeah right). About two years ago I was at my wits end before coming across Dr. Amaya Prasad's "Hair Regeneration" treatment in New York (this guys should honestly be put in jail for making these claims, complete snake oil). This miracle injection featured A Cell AND PRP (WOW) as he claimed it halted and in some cases reversed hairloss all together. I was sold and flew to New York within a month, paid the $15 000 up front, got the injection, and slowly but surely thinned some more only this time more rapidly. By a few months time, I knew it was failure and I needed to try something else. Next thing I know I'm on a plane to Boston getting A Cell + Adipose Derived Stem Cells injected into my scalp (I have the lipo scars to prove it) and finally my hair would be saved. Of course, this was not the case, however the only saving grace was that the Dr. in Boston kept recommending finasteride. It took my a few more months to finally bite the bullet and get on the drug. Been on it for about 2 years, with a brief stint of Dutasteride until my doctor felt uneasy about that one, and I halted everything to a snails pace at long last. Of course after all of these experiences with Dr's who "have my best interest in mind", I remain skeptical of everyone and everything until I am proven otherwise (on my own scalp that is). Finally deciding to get a hair transplant was not a task I took lightly. I got to the same point as everyone on this forum does, an inflection point where you choose to suffer and wear hats 24/7, or take a step towards fixing the situation as scary as it may seem. I researched thoroughly for about a year, combing through result after result, and was conflicted between Hasson and Wong and RAHAL. I was able to meet three Rahal patients before my surgery, and the results spoke for themselves. There was also one bad H and W result floating around that ultimately confirmed my choice, and I chose Rahal and FUT to maximize my yield since I am young and want to conserve as many grafts as possible. I was assured during consultation by Sita, some of you may know here here, that Dr. Rahal has close to 100% yield and I believed (and still believe) her words. I don't want to go into details about the surgery itself as I plan to do a big one year post to look back on the last year, I hope in fondness. There's really no point in delving too deep into the minutia of anything until at least that date. It could have been the best time of life or not but that doesn't change the only thing that matters: the end results. I would like to bring attention to a few concerns I've had along the way in hopes of getting some feedback from members who I'm sure have shared my sentiments at some point. I was grafted at approximately 40 grafts/cm squared (roughly 70+ hairs per cm). In my opinion, this would provide me with the coverage I am after, however after my 10 hour surgery, Dr. Rahal did mention it may look thin in some instances. Though I appreciate the honesty, it did get my mind spinning especially after what I had just endured moments before. I reached out to Dr. Nadimi at around 3 months to get her opinion on what that may look like, and her feelings were quite the contrary as she assured me that in the area I showed her, 3000+ grafts would indeed provide a pretty dense result. This may simply be a difference in opinion between the two doctors, but of course contrary information leads the mind to wander. Does anyone know or have a result similar to 40 grafts/cm and like to comment on how that appears in person? I would like point out that my reaching out to Dr. Nadimi is in no way a slight to my trust in Dr. Rahal. I would not have gone to any clinic if I did not have the utmost conviction in their ability to produce a good result. It is merely me as a patient seeking a second opinion on a matter that concerns me, and that's it. In now way does it reflect any negative connotation towards Dr. Rahal and the credibility of the clinic. Unlike many threads I've looked at, my grafts were very scabbed over within 5-7 days of my surgery. Many of the hairs had definitely released themselves from their respective follicle at that point, so I never really got to see a 'buzzcut' representation of what I should expect before the shedding phase as is common among this forum, particularly with Asmed patients. Having not seen too many similar examples, I questioned whether those grafts has survived or not, but have been assured that there is no real way to know until the final result. I've read from a few different doctors online that the visual presence of grafts in the scalp about a week after surgery is a sign they have survived, so naturally it has been on my mind somewhat. My surgery took just over 10 hours. After the surgery, the clinic's lead technician Mike commented on the procedure was like placing "9000 grafts instead of 3000" because my skin was quite slippery and as a graft was placed, the adjacent grafts would slip out. Dr. Rahal has himself said this may slightly affect yield, but other Dr.s on realself say they have never heard of this phenomenon and attribute that to poor skill of implanters. Of course, I know this is not the case at a clinic with the reputation of RAHAL, but would like to know if other patients have experienced a similar thing and how everything turned out for them? Lastly, at approximately 1month post op, I went into the clinic (I live in Ottawa) to see if Larissa (my patient advisor) could try and apply some topik to the persisting redness of my scalp as I had a few job interviews coming up (for anyone in a similar position, the redness went completely unnoticeable and was not a factorv whatseover). The topik looked absolutely ridiculous and I wanted to rub it off almost right away. She proceeded to use an alcohol wipe to hasten the process, but her rubbing was very hard and did hurt my scalp quite a lot. Obviously after looking after transplanted area with extreme care for the previous month, being SUPER, SUPER gentle the entire time, I was very concerned with whether the pain and tingling I felt would affect the grafts. I've read many times before the clinics such as Asmed and Lorenzo say not to even use clippers for the first 6 months as it could damage the area, but I'm not sure how necessary that really is. Larissa and Dr. Rahal assured me that the grafts were deep within the skin and could not be harmed, but I'm sure you can agree that any painful sensation on a newly grafted area is worrisome at the least. Anyone have any thoughts as to what they have heard from their respective clinics, if anything at all? As for those results, I wanted to hold off on starting a thread until I had something closer to the final thread, but there seems to be a lack of posts by actual Dr. Rahal patients, so I figured this would as good as any for prospective patients looking to track a result as it dues completion. It's tough to comment on my progress in terms of percentage of total grafts sprouted (doesn't appear to be 50% if looking by grafts/cm as most have well below 20 atm), I'll let my pictures show everything and the forum can decide objectively how it's looking. I will say that I appear to be a very slow and gradual grower, so I'm just letting time do its trick for the time being. I have read and seen many results that improve night to day between 6-7 months and a year or later, so I am hoping I am on track for the same. It's easy to get fixated on those that are early growers, so for now I'd prefer to spread positive vibes. This procedure is does not come free of anxiety, we all know that, but I gain solace in knowing that this clinic performs multiple surgeries each and every week and has been for the last 15+ years. They are masters and though the process may be long, they know what they are doing. The following pictures start with my pre-op photos, then post-op, 7-days post op (scabbing), a dr. frietas result at 10 days that shows what I mean about being able to see the majority of individual hairs still attached to their grafts before they shed, and finally photos photos taken by me at 6 months. Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on the progress so far. -
2nd HT Procedure, FUE recs?
pkipling replied to needmorehairs's topic in Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE)
Considering you've already had a successful FUT with Dr. Wong, I think it's definitely worth at least having another consultation with him and discussing your concerns with him. He's one of the most credible around, so his input on the matter - particularly on how/if he thinks the scar may differ on a 2nd pass - would be very valuable. (And this is coming from someone who was very adamant about doing FUE when I had my HT.) -
FUT or FUE, that is an important question. I think with each of those options you will head to different doctors. For FUT: In US I would go for Konior, I think he is obviously elite. Canada I think Wong is successful with that more than Dr.Hasson. Europe I do really really like Hattingen, their results with FUT is wow and they barely go further than 6K in total, only one bad FUT result I've seen from them. couple of dozen brilliant ones at least. FUE: I think there are some good surgeons in Turkey like Cinik, there is also another guy but I don't remember his name, but was known to be very conservative with number of grafts he do. Rarely mega sessions. Like Diep too. Belgium has great surgeons like Devroye & Bisanga Don't like Hattingen or H&W as FUE surgeons, they are good but they aren't as standout as they are in FUT But I agree with @JayLDD, FUT is the best way for what you want. -
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This Vancouver area patient in her mid-20’s came to Hasson & Wong hoping to improve her less than desirable hairline height and temple recession. With good donor hair density, above-average scalp laxity and no desire to shave her head in the future, FUT was chosen as the method of extraction. Dr. Wong and his team successfully harvested 2399 grafts to lower her hairline and address the temple recession to a create a more feminine looking framing. 663 grafts were single hair grafts, 1351 were doubles and 385 were multi-hair grafts. These photos were taken 11 months post-op -
I disagree with the statement above, I think it’s clear that her hairline was lowered and the difference is drastic. Great job as always Dr. Wong🙏🏼
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Hi All – Quick introduction: I'm a 45yr old Asian Indian NW6 residing in California with stable hair loss and do not take any hair loss drugs. I am considering FUE for 4-4.5k grafts on my first procedure with intention to get a natural front hairline with a little density tapering to the mid while sacrificing the crown somewhat. My original hairline has always been quite high (see pics) with hair combed back. I’m ok with being thin on the back for now as I’ve accepted I'll require at least one additional procedure. Perhaps SMP can help the crown somewhat. Hopefully the first procedure will allow me freedom to decide on another while preserving the donor area. I'm considering a procedure early next year and am reaching out for further guidance from this great community. Upon considering cost and doctors, with further research, I realize my original desire to remain within North America and under a certain budget is shortsighted. I’m interested in ethical doctors who perform majority of the procedure themselves and feel that is reasonable for the price point. Remaining in California would make logistics quite a bit easier as I could drive vs. flying. I’m not sure why some of the superstar doctors in LA area aren’t discussed more here. Some folks mentioned Europe doctors are blockbuster with a lower price point than NA so I am open to that too with an early next year time frame. My shortlist of doctors include: Hassan & Wong – they have a great reputation but I have found limited patient results to make a better decision. Their work does appear to be excellent. Dr. Pak – great reviews on all forums with plenty of results. Dr. Vories – I like his direct and no-nonsense approach and use of an implanter pen. His work seems consistent. Dr. Ferudini – great reviews all around with plenty of results. Dr. Konior – also has a great reputation but someone mentioned his costs are around $12 graft which may be out of my budget. I’ll confirm. Dr. Diep – while a local friend went to him with good results, for some reason his work always appeared good with the exception of the donor area. That along with a recent experience posted here somewhat confirms my gut feelings. I'll be doing more research. I'm definitely open to other doctors as my research is limited. Thank you to all the forum members for creating such a wonderful environment for everyone to share. I appreciate any feedback and hope to share my experiences. Cheers! -
Patient in his mid-40’s from Florida. Previous procedure at another clinic back in 2000 of around 700 grafts. Dr. Wong and team rebuild a new hairline and frontal zone working back into the necessary areas of need including the crown. Of the 4490 grafts used, 1506 were single hair grafts, 2347 were doubles and 637 were 3-4 hair grafts. With his hair dyed, these photos were taken 1-year post-op at the time of his second procedure. In the second session, not reflected in these photos, Dr. Wong rebuilt the temples and points and increased density throughout. An additional 3532 grafts were employed and we hope to have updated photos showing the final result sometime later this year.
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Is it possible to post photos for thé temple points? This is what I’m getting with Dr. Wong. I’m having a hard time deciding between Dr. Hasson or Wong. But according to the coordinator, Dr. wong is better at the temporal points -
You are a very difficult case, before you decide to have surgery ask yourself this, will a bad result bother you more than your hair loss? Because after you have surgery you will NEVER be able to return to being a normal bald guy. That said, I think you should definitely consider strip first, and I don't think you've searched our forum enough if you think there aren't a lot of hasson and wong reviews. I think they have a ton of reviews on here and examples of cases like yours. Also, I think $12 a graft for Konior is false. Last time I checked he was around $10 for FUE and $8 for FUT. I suggest submitting online consultations to each of these surgeons here for the actual price. Dr. Pak, works with Rassman who actually trained Dr. Diep, as for gut feelings I think you should always choose a surgeon you trust and have faith in, I chose Diep, and so did one of my best friends, and his results at 4 months look amazing. https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physician/hair-transplant-surgeons.asp?sr=HRN
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HT from Dr Suneet Soni
jjsrader replied to thappa's topic in Hair Transplant Experiences and Surgeon Reviews
Dr. Soni is a very highly skilled surgeon w/well over 2,000 surgeries. He uses the most modern techniques for FUT. Very consistent results (bang for buck). ANY surgeon will have outlier cases where the patient had a bad outcome. H&W & other top 20 clinics 'round the world as well. Medispa puts out alot of video documentation of Dr. Soni's work as well. If it's your 1st strip surgery - the chances of a very good outcome for a megasession w/Medispa is extremely high. I had my 6th FUT (my 1st five were 100/120/400/700/2250 grafts) w/him in 03/16 for 4,500 FUT & 500 FUE I was a NW5 and now have full coverage and the strip he took out (new strip) has stretched a bit as well. I plan on a final FUT to cut out two sections to get 1-2K of grafts out of the worst scar(s) & then will fill in a bit w/FUE some selected spots as well. Perhaps some SMP - not sure. I wear my hair long so it's not a big issue normally. Probably go to Dr. Wong to do that at H&W. I had a consultation w/H&W rep in 02/18 and w/scalp exercises they said I might be able to get a final 2K of grafts w/the FUT scar revision. Frankly, I'm thrilled I was able to do one last big FUT surgery w/nearly 100% graft survival. I'm sure if I was to have Medispa address the stretched scar Dr. Soni would work w/me on that - although another trip to India is a long ways to go when your just getting adjustments and not a mega session. -
Hi folks. So I'm finally ready to take the plunge, live in Toronto Canada and have narrowed my short list to Dr. Nadimi in Chicago (of Konior fame), H&W in Vancouver, and Dr. Rahal in Toronto. My consults with each of them went like this: Dr. Nadimi: FaceTime consult Surgery in Chicago 1500-2000 FUE grafts recommended, could be all the way up to 2400 Shes not entirely sure she can get 2400 FUE grafts from my donor area based on photos and not-so-great FaceTime connection She will perform all extracts and most implants, will be there the entire time Does not feel comfortable doing more than 2400 FUE in a session due to scalp blood supply and time that grafts need to be implanted by (~8 hours) Uses latest tech, hybrid dull/sharp punch, learned everything from Konoir Potentially a discount for future hair transplants No official growth guarantee Recommended to stay in Chicago for a week to get looked after by the clinic Seems like a high end operation Dr. Rahal (Aaron and Tara did the consult): Aaron started the consult and was decent, called in Tara in the middle who blew me away In person consult Surgery in Toronto Measured a total of approx 5000 FUE grafts available in donor area 2500-3000 FUE grafts recommended for 1st transplant of hairline, will likely need another 2500 down the road for crown and touch up, aiming for 45-50 follicles per square cm Estimated Norwood 4-5 in the future No issues doing 3000 FUE in 8 hours, they have done 4200 in a day before Also uses latest hybrid dull/sharp punch tech Rahal and Mike will perform the extractions, Rahal will make the incisions and someone other than Rahal will implant Growth guarantee and free touch ups (not sure what the fine print is around this) Discounted graft rate for future transplants Patient care team access for a year Suggested pairing with PRP Hasson & Wong (James did the consult): In person consult Surgery in Vancouver 3000 FUE grafts recommended, possibly have 5000-6000 FUE grafts in donor area 3000 FUE done over two days, they limit surgeries to about 2000 FUE per day Recommended Dr. Hasson due to hairline objective (Wong more for crown work) Each doctor has performed 10,000+ surgeries Also uses latest hybrid dull/sharp punch tech, 0.85 punch size Techs do the extraction and implantation, Hasson performs incisions Estimated Norwood 5A future recession Informal growth guarantee and free touch ups Discounted future transplants For out of town patients they offer free lodging (3 days), taxis to and from the airport, and a partial flight credit I have to say, Rahal's team did the best sell job and I'm leaning that way.. but is 2500-3000 FUE too ambitious for one day? Am I risking hairs due to them rushing? I don't want to bias your opinion any more than that, but based on your experience on this forum, knowledge, what was said above and my pictures, what would you do? Any other insight or commentary you could offer before I make the plunge? Are there any other GTA doctors that I must absolutely check out? Hoping to finalize a decision in the next few days. REALLY appreciate all the help and support you guys can give. Thanks. -
This Vancouver area patient in his mid-40’s came to Hasson and Wong looking to address his thinning and receded front, sides and top. He had average donor hair with texture on the fine side. Dr. Hasson and his team transplanted 4303 grafts during a two-day FUE procedure to rebuild a new hairline, frontal zone and temples/temple points while also increasing the density in the mid-scalp. 400 were single-hair grafts and 3903 were doubles. These photos were taken at the clinic approximately 9 months post-op
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You’ve been given some great names. I’ll add hasson and wong, Dr. Gabel, Dr. Mohebi, Dr. Bloxham is in NY so definitely worth a visit. Most definitely True&Dorin as well. If I’m not mistaken the place you went to in Long Island had a sanitation worker performing surgery- this is why our community is so important. If you have any questions feel free to pm me anytime. Glad you found us were here to help. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/hair-raising-tale-deceit-article-1.176678%3foutputType=amp
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pre-screened replied to Dv's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Hair looks great and natural and Dr.Hasson did a great job on the front. Have you tried topical Fin??? - H&W are doing this now for Canadian patients and it seems to have all the benefits of oral fin with none/infinitely lower probabilty of sides (as it goes less systematic than oral fin). I'm presuming you got off Fin because of side issues? Perhaps trying this for a while could be an option to recover crown. Topical Fin is available in Europe from compounding pharmacies in Milan etc.. The full science isn't out yet on it but anecdotally clinics that have partnered with compounding pharmacies are seeing excellent efficacy in patients for which oral fin has presented a problem. Given emerging NW5 / 6 pattern. My gut for you would be to max out FUT for any further work, start scalp laxity exercises NOW and your FUT2 scar should be the same as you have now - FUT is obviously cheaper with poorer recovery time but it is undoubtedly the most conservative approach and leaves you in better shape for anything up the road that might be required which could be done with FUT/FUE. Not much has changed since 2010 and Dr.Hasson is STILL in the global ELITE doctor category - you know Top 3 or wherever you want to draw the line. If i was you I wouldn't be thinking of going anywhere else but back to that clinic. Like others have said Dr.Wong is the king of crowns so some combo of Hasson/Wong will be great. -
Hello all, I’m posing this question as a prior FUE patient (not of either doctor). I am not currently looking to get a procedure because my hair is pretty good right now but I will be looking within the next two years or so, and I couldn’t find any information about the above topic. I lurk on these forums often to stay up to date with things and check out results because it’s very interesting to me and makes me happy to see guys getting great results. I have seen some really good things from both Hasson and Wong of H&W clinic fame. They have a robust patient community and some good marketing and are known globally. I have also recently discovered Dr. Raymond Konior in Chicago, which is close to where I live. I’ve conversed with him several times just asking about his methods and was truly impressed by his responsiveness. His results are also amazing and I have not found anything bad about him. I’ve compared results between the two and honestly it’s hard to really tell which takes the cake. With someone like me who is willing to wait a while, what is the best course of action that you would take? Could I be better suited with one or the other? My procedure would be entirely in the frontal third, mostly the hairline, and I’m looking for FUE. I can upload some pics later, as well.
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