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  1. Since Dr.Couto from FUExpert is not possible to book an appointment until year 2023, I'm looking to the number 2 surgeon for templates and hairline, after him. I don't know if it could be Dr. Rahal from Canada, or Freitas from Madrid, Spain. Can you guys, point me out, if you know of other hairline -template artists? I'm norwood 2-3 don't know. I don't have any problems on the crown, is just my template and hairline recession. Would you guys agree Rahal is number 2 or Freitas? Is there any other number 2 that i'm not aware of? Thanks in advance.
  2. Yeah, your donor and hair characteristics are really good from what I can see. Crown is on its way out though. To be completely honest, I don't think it will have much if any hair left in it by the time you reach your mid 30's. Unless you take meds that is, then you will potentially be able to re-grow it back to a normal thickness and keep it that way for decades. You really should consider it. Read the actual studies, sides are rare, but do exist and go away upon discontinuation according to every placebo controlled study ever carried out on the drug, and according to all medical literature published on the subject. There's really no reason to be scared to at least give it a go in reality. Dr. Lorenzo's website has some good concise information on scientific data relating to finasteride side effects, good place to start and then broaden your understanding by studying other credible sources of info and reading the actual studies in depth - just find the finasteride section here: https://injertocapilar.com/faqs/?lang=en Good attitude budget wise. I'll put it this way, Europe and North America are the two hubs of quality hair transplantation. Both have a small number of doctors who are all very good and offer similar levels of skill and quality, but in general European Dr's are going to be around half the price for the same level of skill. So, whilst it's perfectly reasonable to stay in the U.S., you can get the same level of results for half the cost in Europe. My favourite European Dr's: Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Feriduni, Dr. Lupanzula, Dr. Bruno Pinto, Dr. Rafael De Freitas, Dr. Ximena Vila, Dr. Juan Couto and Dr. Bruno Ferreira. U.S./Canada: Dr. Konior, Hasson and Wong, Dr. Cooley, Dr. Shapiro, Dr. Rahal, True and Dorin (there are more but I'm in the UK so I don't keep too much track of them, others will be of more help for additional options). Do some research and take a look into them.
  3. Hi there. First time posting, so let me just say that this is such an awesome community. I have learned a lot on this site over the years, so thank you to all of you who answer questions to those of us trying to make an important decision. I live in NYC and have been thinking about a HT for the past 3-4 years. Over that time, I had consultations with 3 doctors near me (Drs. Wesley, Dorin, and Bernstein). I also had a remote consultation with Dr. Rahal in Canada. I am 46 years old and Norwood 3 and am really focused on trying to restore my hairline and get density in the front and top of my head. It's a balance of having my hairline back, but also wanting it to look natural and appropriate for my age. Here is my take on them and would love to know if others agree/disagree with my assessments and if there are other doctors I should also consider: Dr. Bernstein. Nice guy. Met him 3 years ago. Recommended 1500-2000 grafts and to mostly fill in the front hairline and said that if needed, I could do another procedure down the line. The pictures I saw of his hairlines didn't look very natural to me. They looked like they were almost a straight line, like they were drawn with a ruler, and seemed to lack the single hairs that one would expect in the front. On his website, he now has pictures that show better, more natural hairlines. Maybe he has gotten better? Dr. Wesley. Met him in late 2019 right before the pandemic. He was also recommending a similar number of grafts. I liked him a lot, and I thought his hairlines were better than Bernstein's. Some were excellent. But he was pushing FUT and I sometimes wear my hair short. Dr. Dorin. Also met him in 2019. I didn't like his work. Dr. Rahal. I first spoke to his office in 2020 right before the pandemic. It was less personalized service than the other doctors and was really hard to speak with him. In fairness, I don't happen to live in Canada whereas I am local to the other doctors. Maybe if I lived near Dr. Rahal, my experience would be different. Maybe they get a lot of not-so-serious people and so they are careful on having Dr. Rahal speak to everyone? Anyway, I sent photos and talked to the patient coordinator. She sent me his recommendations. I had to ask a few times if I could speak with him, and I eventually did, but it was almost like I had to really convince them that I needed to speak with this person who might be performing a surgical procedure on me. He recommended 2500 grafts which he said would give me a hairline as well as density. He said I might need another procedure down the line if I had more thinning on top or in the crown area. I initially reached out to Dr. Rahal based on positive reviews here and pictures I had seen of his hairlines (which were really amazing). But the reviews are mostly older threads from a few years back. I know others have posted about this recently (why no new Rahal posts?) and some have pointed out a couple of newer threads where people sing Rahal's praises, but I am concerned there aren't more Rahal patients posting here. My thoughts / questions: 1. Of the group above, who would you say is the one who has better results? The best track record / reputation for great results? 2. Is my experience with Dr. Rahal indicative of how it would be if I were a patient? Is it going to be pretty impersonal across the board? Will I just see him for 5 minutes and then techs will do everything? 3. Since I am willing to travel, are there other doctors I should consider who are outside of my geographic area (but still in North America)? Basically, who else should I consult with? Hasson? Baubac? Konior? Shapriro? Parsa Mohebi? Are there others who are really amazing that I haven't spoken with? Who is on top of their game right now, especially when it comes to hairlines? Thanks so much for your advice. It is greatly appreciated.
  4. Hello all! My name is Manoj, I am 31 and have been struggling with hairloss since I was 22. I have done about 7 years of research, consulted many top tier doctors (Rahal, Hason) and finally decided on @Eugenix Hair Science after consistently seeing great results. Even though I am from the USA, I decided to travel to India for this as I felt very confident after talking with Dr Pradeep Sethi via video consultation. I was impressed that he pioneered the DHT technique they use and wanted to be under his hands for this. After years on this forum, I wanted share my experience and give back to this community. This is own unbiased review. I arrive in Delhi tomm and will have my preop day, filled with testing. Surgery will be on the 26th and 27th. I opted for the super premium package before the pandemic with Dr.Pradeep and the clinic honoured it a year after. So far, been throughly impressed by patient care from the conversations I had with Mudit and Abhinay. I was asked if my surgery can be pushed forward a day and when I was not comfortable with that, the clinic quickly made adjustments to keep my original schedule or 25,26,27 which I appreciated. Dr. Arika even personally contacted me to assure me to not be stressed as I felt anxious. That’s it for now, will update with pics as I get to Delhi tomm! Feeling anxious and happy that after years of research, thinking, planning, the day finally is coming!
  5. Hello everyone, Mike Flaherty is not my real name. My first transplant with Dr. Rahal was nine years ago in 2010. I had another one performed two years later in 2012 to lower my temple points and add some hair to the sides of my head. All in all, I believe it was around 5000-5500 grafts transplanted over those two sessions. My hair still felt rather thin and wispy but with meds and thickening products I managed and for a few years was pleased with it. This year my hair has started thinning something fierce - especially on the sides which now appear almost bare. I've developed bare patches on top as well, which were always there but this year they have gotten extremely sparse. By the end of the day, my hair feels extremely thin and almost greasy to touch and I can feel these bare patches. I'm seeing a lot more long hairs fall out in the sink when I wash my hair. I switched to organic shampoo two months ago but that might have made shedding (if that's what this is) worse. My bareness on the sides (right side especially) has now exposed my scar from my procedure years ago. After these two very expensive procedures ($20,000 which I'm still paying off) I'm very disappointed in the quality of my hair's overall thinness, patchy spots and continuing loss. I know I've put on an amount of weight the last few years but I can't see that factoring into my hair loss. I did consult with Rahal this past spring who suggested another procedure - at an additional $7000. I'm amazed at the incredible thick hairlines and work I see from other Rahal patients but mine was not one of them. Pretty much at a loss (pardon the pun) right now regarding this situation.
  6. Background: 28 years old with a NW2 type recession and very mild thinning in the crown. Family history: Mother’s side has great hair genetics (her father and brother had a full head of hair well into their late years), MPB present with my father and his late father, however, slow and gradual loss, my father is 65 and has more so thinned throughout the top rather than lost hair. I don’t have siblings, and my first cousin who I share my grandfather with from dad’s side, is 36 years old and shows no signs of thinning. * Important to note - I believe that looking at family history could be relevant to some extent, but should not be relied on. If you have experienced hair loss, 95% chance it is from MPB. It's due to genetic variations, your genetics are complex and unique, and MPB is progressive. It is wishful and naive thinking to believe you may “stabilize” one day or try to determine your final form so to say. Prevention: Propecia - Currently 1mg/ED (every day) - Started January 1, 2020 at low dosages, and worked up to 1mg a day. Experimented with 0.25mg EOD (every other day) and gradually increased the dose as I felt comfortable. - More time is necessary to judge entirely how efficacious finasteride has been for me, but I believe it is maintaining my hair. My hope and goal at the core is prevention, any added density or regrowth would be a blessing. Minoxidil - Rogaine 5% Foam 1x per night ED - Started about 1.5 years ago - Love/hate relationship, does occasionally irritate my scalp and other times its fine. The application itself is not a hassle as it takes a couple of minutes to apply, however, I'm not a fan of how it leaves my hair feeling clumped and greasy. - Hoping for the minoxidil sulfate test to come out asap to determine whether or not topical minoxidil is ultimately effective for me. (Might switch to oral) Microneedling - 1.5mm 1x a week, no topicals for 24 hours after session. - I use Dr. Pen microneedling device - Apply it all over my scalp other than my recipient area for the time being. - Takes me around 10 minutes, and I rather enjoy it oddly enough its therapeutic for me Shampoos - Nizarol 2% ketoconazole, Regenpure DR 1% Ketoconazole, Selsun Blue 2.5% (extra strength). - I alternate the use of these. I aim to use nizarol only once a week at most as it drys my scalp, Might use Regenpure once a week on a different day, and will only use Selsun Blue when my scalp feels irritated/itchy, I find this shampoo to be the best at clearing up dandruff and dermatitis. - Otherwise I use some mild organic shampoo without sulfates, that includes all the fancy ingredients like biotin, nettle, tea tree, etc etc & currently using Herbal Glo EOD. Hair Mask - - Occasionally I put on a hair mask, not for prevention towards MPB (will not do anything to address androgenetic activity), but to moisturize my dry scalp. - I use coconut oil, castor oil, pumpkin seed oil, peppermint oil, tea tree oil & I use 1 egg yolk that helps bind all the ingredients together so it's not dripping all over the place. Supplements - - Not super important in my opinion, as I have tested my blood levels for deficiencies for many years even before I realized I had hair loss. My Iron, B12, folate etc levels have always been intact. - Still I recommend anyone to test for any deficiencies as they could be hindering healthy hair growth. - I take Vitamin D, MSM, a collagen powder that contains biotin ED. - Cleaned up the diet and started exercising more consistently Considering: Oral Minoxidil - 1 - 2.5mg ED - Still searching for a doctor willing to prescribe it to me Dutasteride - Topical or Oral - 1x a week added to my finasteride regimine CB-03-01 - Topical Anti-Androgen to address remaining androgens in the scalp including testosterone & DHT Restoration - 2,401 FUE with Dr. Rahal on September 9, 2020 My search for a surgeon was narrowed down to Dr. Hasson, Dr. Bisanga & Dr. Rahal. I told myself I would be comfortable going to any of the three as each were very capable doctors for dense hairline work and had over 25+ years of specialization in the industry. Ultimately I made a decision to go with Dr. Rahal as the pandemic offered a unique opportunity for me in terms of timing to get my hair transplant. Being in lockdown meant that I would have the luxury to recover at home for at least the first 4 months, and likely further to 6 or 7 months as well. Dr. Rahal’s clinic offered a date in September that really worked for me, and being the first surgery after a long holiday period that meant 5 days of rest for him and his staff, while also being the only patient they operated on that day were big bonuses for me. Day of Procedure - The surgery went better than I could have hoped for, we started at 6:00 am and finished around 1pm, time seemed to fly by with some conversation with Dr. Rahal and his staff who were all friendly, and I felt little to no pain. Initially I was booked for 2,500 grafts, after drawing up a hairline and doing measurements, they determined they would aim closer to 2,200 grafts. They extracted 2,200 grafts and during the incision process, Dr. Rahal determined I would benefit with 200 more grafts added in for density, they flipped me over and extracted again; to total 2,401 grafts. I was returned the difference as I originally paid for 2,500. Dr. Rahal had two main techs who extracted and implanted the grafts, and I believe I counted 4 other female techs who were under microscopes sorting and analyzing the grafts. The team worked very efficiently and one of the women came over to tell me that “my grafts looked very good”, which was nice for me to hear at that moment and hopefully it wasn’t just something she was saying to make me happy. Dr. Rahal checked into the room once in between extraction and placement, and it seemed he had a lot of trust in his staff. Dr. Rahal’s demeanour is calm and soft spoken, and also gets straight to business. I spent the night at their guesthouse, and my family and I expected to find accommodation at a hotel in Ottawa the following day as I didn’t know what to expect in terms of recovery, however, to my surprise I felt nearly no pain and we left immediately after the post-op the following day (4.5 hour drive back to Toronto from Ottawa). Fun fact, their clinic in Toronto is a total 7 min drive from my home, but the date they had available in Ottawa that week worked much better so we made the trip instead, which we rather enjoyed anyway. Everything considered, I was very happy with my experience on the merits of the work and attention I felt I was getting, minimal pain & swelling, and overall the immediate recipient area looked clean and dense and the donor looked good and healed quickly. My recovery was standard, I took a high level of precaution for the first two weeks, followed their instructions to the T and the post-op rep was always available to answer my questions. Why I chose FUE - For a few reasons. Every doctor I consulted with, including Diep, Zarev, H&W (consultant), Pradeep Sethi, Bisanga and of course Rahal told me I was a great candidate for FUE. I was told my donor had a fairly high capacity that I could tap into in case there was some more recession even on medication. The extracting tech ended up telling me he suspected I could achieve approximately up to another 6k, so in total 8k grafts. The other reason is that ever since I started getting haircuts as a kid on my own, I always kept my sides very short, I’ve always faded my hair and there may not have been a time since I was like 13 that my sides were longer than a 3 or 4 guard. So it was important to me to have this option. Lastly, I felt that FUE may offer a greater exit strategy if down the road things didn’t go according to plan and the Norwood Reaper wins the battle. It might be easier to shave down having done an FUE vs FUT, however, I don’t believe it would be easy with either. Surgery Details: Total grafts: 2,401 Total hairs: 5,458 Average hair per graft: 2.27 Graft break down: Singles - 407 Twos - 1,034 Threes - 857 Fours - 103 Recipient area size: 43cm^2 Recipient graft density: 55.8cm^2 Photo Dump: Clinic Photos: Day 3: Day 10 Day 14 1 Month 2 Months Month 3 This forum helped me get through this process and I'm grateful for it & I wanted to play it forward. I'll try to update month to month, any feedback is appreciated and welcomed. Special thank you to @Melvin-Moderator & @Raphael84 who were very helpful answering the many questions I had.
  7. I never got an in person consult with Rahal cause of COVID lockdowns but I filled out the online form on his website and his sales reps spent the next week harassing me for photos. Dude called me Saturday morning like he was trying to sell me a timeshare in Mexico instead of a medical procedure. If I tried to talk to them on their website using the online chat, they were just heavily trying to turn a simple question into me sending photos. For that reason, I never proceeded any further with Rahal. I've really had a great experience with all the other reps I've come in contact with though. Hasson and Wongs Toronto rep was really great. Same with Dr. De Freitas. Thinking back on it though, it's probably better that I didn't get the in person consultation cause then I would have had to deal with 6 months of sales tactics instead of 1 week lol The Rahal results I've seen have been really solid but I just didn't want to deal with guys like that H&W were my second choice though. I really like their work and they've been at it for a long time.
  8. I'm almost 29 and my hairline has gotten to the point where I'm starting to feel like my receded temples are beginning to limit my styling options. Over the last year or so, I've noticed my hairline has gotten worse to the point that I started to realize I was receding. I always noticed very minor recession at the temples but didn't think much of it and just assumed it was just a normal hairline. The last year though with all the WFH stuff, all my terrible procrastination/playing catch up habits have really manifested and it's taken a toll on my hair due to missing sleep and whatever else. If not for the last year, I think my hairline would still be decent enough to try all the hairstyles that I was doing before. Anyway, I did a consultation with a local surgeon in Toronto as well as an online consultation with Hasson & Wong. I signed up for a consultation with Dr. Rahal but his sales guys feel like the type of people would try to sell you a hair transplant at a funeral if they thought it would get them anywhere. Dude called my phone at like 10 Saturday morning to ask me for photos of my hairline. So I talked to the local surgeon and he recommended 1200 grafts to fill in the temples. No hairline lowering or anything. Just temples only. And it would give the appearance of mild thinning I believe he said. Overall he seemed really conservative and his estimate though he did tell me that my hair donor density was about average while my hair thickness was a bit above average thickness. I also did an online consultation with Hasson & Wong and I was basically told that I'd need 3000 grafts. I'm assuming the reason H&W said 3000 and my local surgeon said 1200 is because my local surgeon is very conservative and Hasson & Wong are more on the aggressive side and are capable of achieving some ridiculous hair density. I don't believe H&W recommended to lower my hairline either though I was only thinking like half a cm at most. Not that any surgeon recommended lowering my hairline Recently, I've been looking into Dr. Rahal because the hairlines on his site are jawdroppingly good and I've just been super impressed overall with all the photos I can find. Obviously, they're his best work, but to have a gallery of hairline results probably means you're doing something right. I haven't got the opportunity to consult with Rahal but it'll happen soon. So I've been trying to decide between Dr. Rahal or Dr. Hasson. For Rahal, I really like his gallery and he seems to specialize in hairlines. He's supposed to be a bit cheaper than H & W which is very nice bonus assuming all else is equal. Also he has an office in Toronto and it would be nice to be able to just go to see him in person for whatever issues after the hair transplant. The one reservation I have about Dr. Rahal is I'm unsure about his consistency/techs. I haven't done much research on them but I was wondering if his techs were experienced and had been with him for a long time. For Dr. Hasson, (I'm leaning towards Dr. Hasson over Dr. Wong since Dr. Hasson seems to work with hairlines more), what draws me to him is probably his reputation and what I feel is the closest thing to a guarantee out there. I like the crazy density that H & W can achieve (not sure if Rahal attempts the same?) and he's got a few patients in his gallery that have left me impressed. But he doesn't have the sheer quantity of great hairline results. Especially since it seems like Dr. Hasson does just about everything well. H & W seem like they've got the entire process down to a T so I'm not too worried about their techs or their consistency. Also, H & W are a bit out of the way so followups after the transplant seem like it would be difficult. Right now, my personal feeling is that Dr. Hasson is all but guaranteed to do a good job. But Dr. Rahal might be more likely to hit a home run and do something jaw dropping. I'm not sure how much density Dr. Rahal will get however I know Dr. Hasson dense packs with the best. Anyone have experience with one or both of them? How did you guys feel about Dr. Rahals process? Any personal recommendations for one or the other?
  9. Dr. Rahal does nice work. Calls himself the Hairline King, too. 😁 I don't see many reviews these days, but I loved Dr. Keser's (Turkey) hairlines. He does small procedures, limit of about 700 grafts per day. He was the first surgeon I wanted to go to, would have been a 4 days procedure! I like the hairlines from Dr. Ferreira (Portugal) too. Soft and natural. Lately, I'm most impressed with De Freitas (Spain), too. If I hadn't already had my hairline done, he would be in my top 2 or 3 options. My hairline was done at HLC (Turkey). I'm only 9 months in and if give my results a 9.5 rating (humble brag). I love it and it's slowly getting better. 👍 I just completed my second HT with Dr. Bisanga (Belgium). Worked on my crown and a touch up on my temples. Too early to talk about results, but his hairlines are also beautiful. From experience, his attention to detail was excellent. He would also be in my top 2 or 3 today. You'll get lots of opinions on the subject. Expect to spend more money for this level of surgeon. Do you own research. Best of luck!
  10. Hi, I also have a diffused pattern hair loss and it looks very similar to one of the images posted here. I contacted Dr. Rahal and his assistant said I am not a good candidate for FUE (it was an online consultation via Zoom video). I wonder if there are any good physicians in the GTA area that I can consult with.
  11. Did Dr. Rogers mention why the first 2 surgeries failed? What was different with Dr. Rahal?
  12. Hello everyone ! I went to get my 3003 graft FUT done at Dr.Rahals clinic last July, the experience was amazing and i cant say enough great things about the team there ! Highly recommend to anyone thinking of getting the procedure done. Here is my month to month progress. I will post pre op to now in order (currently 4.5 months post op) thanks everyone 🙂
  13. Hey everyone, I'm about two days out from my ~2300 graft FUT procedure with Dr. Konior. As often happens with Konior, he initially quoted me 1500 grafts but wound up going all the way up to 2300 to pack everything in more densely. It was one of the smoothest and most painless medical experiences of my life, and the whole thing took about 12 hours. I'd take a hair transplant over getting cavities filled at the dentist any day. I'd like to start by thanking the past Konior patients who have documented their procedures so thoroughly. Spanker, Reyes1, SamSpade, and the various Matts (among others) posted incredibly detailed threads that helped make my choice of surgeon very easy. I hope that I can continue in their tradition with another well documented write-up. Pre Surgery I was 28 and probably a NW2.5 or 3 prior to this surgery, and my main goal was to restore my receded hairline and fill in the temples. I've been on finasteride and minoxidil for several years and they've definitely slowed things down, but there are a few spots that have slowly continued to thin (including in back...but it looks worse in one of the below photos than it really is). I plan to continue both meds for the rest of my life, and will likely have additional "tune up" surgeries down the line to maintain what I have. Dr. Konior actually suggested a low dose pill version of minoxidil for those who find the application of Rogaine to be tedious (I only apply the foam once per night because it's such a pain in the ass). I spent months reading about hair transplants and researching doctors until I finally narrowed it down to Konior, Rahal, and Hasson (I had already decided to stay within North America). There's no question that all three are hairline masters, but there were a few things that stood out about Konior that steered me in his direction: 1. His relative conservatism and focus on long term strategy would be a great check on my own desire to be as aggressive as possible. 2. If you look at his cases, it's pretty clear that he is often able to do with 1500 grafts what most surgeons need 2500 or even 3000 grafts to achieve. Konior's ability to make every graft count really speaks to his artistry and perfectionism, which is of course another big advantage for young patients like me who need to use every single graft very judiciously. 3. He performs one surgery a day and as others have pointed out, does virtually the entire surgery himself -- donor extraction, lateral slit incisions, and graft placement. I do think one or two of his techs placed some of the grafts, but he supervised them meticulously and I overheard him tweaking anything that didn't look perfect. This isn't to say that technician-heavy clinics are inherently flawed -- many techs at other clinics have years of experience and are truly skilled workers -- but ultimately, I felt that a tech-heavy approach would add another level of risk that I'd prefer to do without. 4. Konior's year long wait list and relatively high price speak volumes, especially since he does minimal marketing and is pretty selective when taking on new patients. These things may seem like "cons" at first glance, but over time I came to see them as major "pros." A hair transplant is something that will affect your appearance for the rest of your life, and I knew that 10, 20, or 30 years from now I'd care a lot more about having picked the right hairline than saving a few thousand dollars. More often than not, you get what you pay for -- and plastic surgery is not an industry where you want to look for a bargain. 5. Konior's immediate post op photos have a really clean and distinctive look, with very little blood compared to most other surgeons' graft zones after surgery. I've always found it very satisfying to look at his post op photos and notice the precision of the graft angles and placement. The Surgery One thing that isn't often discussed on here is the feeling of oh shit that kicks in as your surgery date approaches. As soon as I realized my surgery was a month away, the reality of the situation hit me hard: was I seriously about to fly to Chicago and undergo surgery just to give myself better hair? Eventually the excitement started to outweigh the fear, but it was for sure an emotional rollercoaster until I finally arrived at Konior's office at 6:30 AM. Once I checked in with the doctor's staff, I finished my paperwork and wrote down my lunch order. Everyone was very kind and conscientious, and at around 7 the doctor came in to discuss the surgical plan. As Dr. Konior and I settled into our initial conversation, I immediately felt my anxiety begin to fade. He really took his time to discuss his hair loss philosophy, crack a few jokes, and field a few questions that I had. He seemed totally relaxed and in no hurry to push things along, and by the time we moved on to drawing the hairline I felt totally at ease. Helping a patient feel comfortable during that first meeting is a genuine, underrated skill and it really helped to set the tone for the entire day. He then had me draw my version of a hairline -- I wanted it lowered just a bit with my temples filled in, and I asked him to pack it as "densely as he thought would be ethical". Konior took one look at the hairline I drew and said something like, "yep, I know what you want" as though he'd seen it a million times before. He then spent about 45 minutes drawing his own version of the hairline, erasing and re-drawing parts of it over and over again until he thought it was perfect. He took pictures from several different angles while doing so, and every now and then he'd pause to stare at my hairline the way a painter looks at his work while trying to get those last brush strokes just right. It was easy to see how Konior's artistry and surgical precision are a super effective combination. When the doctor handed me a mirror to look at his proposed hairline, I was ecstatic (the hairline he drew is visible in the pics I've attached). I had worried that he'd push for something more conservative, but what he drew turned out to be pretty much exactly what I'd hoped for. So I basically told him I wouldn't change a thing and the process continued. I felt even more relief when I learned that he would only have to shave a small portion of my existing hair to create the new hairline. I've seen a lot of Konior cases where patients went for the full shave, and I really hoped I wouldn't have to go down that route and thus experience a much longer "ugly duckling" phase. When he wound up just shaving a few useless miniaturized hairs in front, I felt pretty confident that in another week or two I'd be able to cover up the work without wearing a hat. As someone who wanted to get back to work and my social life as soon as possible, this was a HUGE weight off my shoulders. With my last major fear assuaged, I was genuinely excited to get started. They gave me some valium and had me lay face down while the doctor got ready to remove the strip. I have a pretty low pain tolerance and a very strong fear of needles, but I have to say that the numbing shots were the least painful shots I have ever experienced. They used some sort of vibrating device on my skin next to the injections, which made the actual shots feel like nothing. I barely noticed when the strip actually came out, and then they gave me a bathroom break and got ready to start the incisions. I was given more valium throughout the day and for the most part I felt restful but awake. I dozed off a couple times and woke back up mid-snore, but for the most part I just chilled out and focused on staying perfectly still while Konior and his techs did their thing. Occasionally I'd feel some soreness in back and they'd have to re-numb me -- the re-numbing shots were actually a little more painful, but that's probably because I waited too long to ask for them (the doctor was really in the zone so I was hesitant to interrupt). As mentioned earlier, he did have two techs present during graft placement but I'm pretty sure he placed most of them himself while the techs would pass him the grafts that had been dissected. It definitely sounded like he placed the most important grafts himself, such as the 1s along the hairline. At around 6:30 PM, the surgery was finally complete. Konior and his team put in roughly a 12 hour day in total: 2 hours of conversation and planning the hairline, followed by 10 hours of performing the surgery itself. Compared to what I was expecting, the entire day felt like a series of best case scenarios -- I got exactly the hairline I wanted, felt close to no pain whatsoever, and was able to keep enough existing hair to (hopefully) cover up the procedure after another week or two. Konior's staff was nice enough to give me a ride to the Comfort Suites that evening, which I really appreciated because I was not looking forward to interacting with strangers in my post surgical state. In fact, I didn't end up having to interact with anyone -- the Comfort Suites have a back entrance you can open with your room key, and my room was right next to the back door. So yet another small anxiety was eliminated. I don't think I could have asked for a better experience. Immediate post op pics are below (I circled a small mole in the final pic for added perspective):
  14. Amazing final results bro. Top notch hair, truly looks like you've had a perfect hair line your whole life. This is possibly Dr. Rahal's best result for your norwood level. Congrats!
  15. 11 Month and Final update Tomorrow I turn 29, almost a full year since my HT and probably about 3 years since hair became life's greatest problem. So what better gift to myself than to give my final update and flip this page at least for a little while and focus on developing other things in my life. I don't see Dr. Rahal until late September to have my final check and discuss the result; see if any additional work should be planned in the near future and most important for me is to have him assess my donor after surgery and hopefully get a good estimate of what I have to work with in the future. I am very fortunate that the pandemic took some weight off of my recovery as Canada was under lockdown for most of sep 2020 to early 2021 and I had a whole 8 months in-between having any real obligations to see anyone in person. That being said, I don't have any "shame" having done the procedure, thats none-sense, anyone in our place would do this as well and I remain open to talk about it when it is brought up as it ends up helping others more than it does falsely protecting my ego. To any first timers considering surgery soon, the first 4-5 months will be tough. You will shed, you will likely have some shock loss, you will look worse than you started, and even though I believed I was very prepared for the recovery after doing my research, it was still a daily battle of the mind. There were periods during the ugly duckling phase that I questioned my decision in getting a transplant and other times I questioned whether Rahal's clinic was able to deliver results I wanted. I replayed the process of the surgery and my recovery in my head over and over to figure if something had gone wrong. I can't stress enough that if you don't choose a clinic you're absolutely sure of, this period post surgery will be hell and likely over time it won't do much to bring you back the confidence that you're striving for. Always aim to get it right the first time, current hair transplant procedures are a delicate numbers game. Its my opinion that its absolutely crucial that you only go through with this surgery if: - You have the financial ability to go to your top surgeon picks - You have consulted with multiple doctors (in person if possible) to understand if you are a candidate - You have exhausted all options with a prevention regimen ** . For me prevention comes first (will make a separate post to talk about prevention) - You have really truly understood the expectations of surgery, really understanding what the 'illusion of density' entails. My Final results: It feels amazing to have finally come to this point and be able to reflect on the result positively. I feel the result is very natural and a good overall density. I believe Dr. Rahal did a good job transplanting up until my native hairs and fortunately I didn't suffer any shock loss in behind the recipient. In certain situations, if I'm going out or I know i'll be exposed to a lot of light I'll put in some toppik to make it look fuller, but otherwise for the most part I leave it the way it is. I often wash my hair and use a blowdryer on a cool setting to style it and I'm on my way. I should mention that it took sometime for the transplanted hairs to begin to behave like the rest of my hair, and that will also likely improve with a little more time. I'm very happy with the flow in my hairline as it really matches the style I've had forever and that speaks volumes on Dr. Rahal's artistry and ability to recreate a natural look. I'll try to find a starting photo and I'll make a before and after post as well to highlight the difference.
  16. Hey everyone new to the forums but have been a long time lurker. Have a scheduled 3000 graft FUE procedure in November with Dr. Rahal to rebuild my hairline. 60cm squared total area being covered at 50 grafts a cm squared. I am 29 yr old NW3 with deep temporal recession and with a U hairline recession and am looking to rebuild my temple angles and lower my hairline some as I have a large forehead now. I have attached photos of my hair loss. I am taking finasteride 1mg EOD and believe I am a good candidate for a transplant as my mothers side of the family has no hair loss and my father is a NW3 in his mid 60’s. He has had the same hairline since he was my age. So his hair loss has stabilized naturally the past 30 years as he takes no medication for hair loss. I have a 200 person wedding I am the best man in next summer so that is part of my reason to get one in Nov, that will give me 9 months from procedure until the wedding. Do you believe that is enough time to see decent results. Just looking to get some opinions on my procedure and on Dr. Rahal as a surgeon. Have read a mix of good and bad on here. As a side note I will also mention I have Ménière’s disease.
  17. Nice. I saw your result and TorontoMan's too. I was really impressed by Rahal but his reps just ruined it for me. I filled out some form on Rahal's website and the guy called me on a Saturday morning trying to get my photos. I think he sent like 2 or 3 follow up emails too. Just couldn't go to a clinic like that. Rahal's reps really stuck out to me as a bit unprofessional imo. It almost felt like they were trying to sell me a timeshare instead of a medical procedure. I had really great experiences with Dr. De Freitas's reps as well as H&W's so shout out to those guys. I'm actually in the process of going with Dr. De Freitas. I've just about reserved a spot but I just can't figure out how to earn credit card rewards on a bank transfer lol. But once that happens, I'll probably have a date set. I figure if I'm spending ~11k or so, I might as well get some points out of it. I thought about posting a thread but I'm like 9 months out at this point
  18. Looks incredible Ian, it’s my understanding you had surgery over 10 years ago with Dr. Rahal, what did you look like before any surgery?
  19. Hi Everyone, Long time lurker here. This forum has helped me gain knowledge all things related to hair loss and I just wanted some opinions. I'm 27 years old - my hair started thinning at around the age of 23. I've been on 1mg/day finasteride since March 2020 and Rogain 1/day since March 2019. I'm consistent with my medication and I "think" i've stabilized. Typically i style my hair up in the front, comb the back over and i use some toppik to hide the thinning. I've been wanting to do surgery for a while now but im reluctant because of my age. Ive consulted with many doctors, all of whom said I'd be a good candidate (Dr. Feller, Dr. Diep, Dr. Rahal, Dr. Ferreria, Dr. Bisanga to name a few). My plan for hair transplant is to reinforce my hairline and add density from the front to midcrown. Do you think i'm too young or should i wait a few more years? Ideally, i'd like to have it done before my 30th birthday. Keep up the good fight fellas! Thanks.
  20. Hey @dotdashdashdash and @deeznuts! My first surgery was done by Dr. Torgerson 1.5 years ago now. I don't recommend him at all but rather suggest people look for more serious clinics internationally, or if staying in Canada and okay with higher price, look at Dr. Rahal or Hasson and Wong. I've made a deposit with Eugenix for late November. I'll be starting a new thread for that. Here's my latest thread with updated pics:
  21. Hi there. New member, excited to be here. I post on Hair Loss Talk from time to time. I'm approaching 5 months after a ~2200 FUE to my frontal third from a lesser known clinic in the Toronto area. I made the plunge after meeting a colleague in person who went to the same clinic and seeing his results. I'm disheartened to say the density so far is lacking. I had suspicions from day 1 as the grafts seemed a little spaced apart compared to other results. Now that I'm halfway through I think it's pretty much confirmed my transplant won't be that great. I'll likely be looking at a second procedure after 12 months, maybe with Dr. Rahal. People on other forums have mentioned a "top up" is possible, where they fill in a transplant and make it more dense. Can somebody describe to me how exactly that works? Wouldn't incisions run the risk of damaging nearby transplanted grafts? Thanks in advance. The pics are today at almost 5 months, at 4 months, and pre and post-op.
  22. Hi, This is my first post to this site. My situation: I have made a non-refundable deposit of $1,500 to book my surgery date, a month from now. As I review this site, concerns have arisen for me. I have chosen a surgeon, Dr. Rahal, who is more than twice as expensive as any other surgeon in Toronto I have consulted with. I did this as Dr. Rahal specialises in hair transplants, is well reviewed (in my elementary research), I have a suspicion that you get what you pay for, and I was impressed by the sales representative. I was ready to invest this much as it is very important to me that my hair transplant be undetectable and good. Upon reading threads related to "Rahal" here I have discovered, 1) that Dr. Rahal's patients haven't been posting as frequently as they used to, 2) some have had major complaints with Dr. Rahal, 3) my expectations of an undetectable hair plant may be too high, and 4) it may be that Dr. Rahal is in the business of restoring hairlines to full youthful vigour, which would be unnatural in my case (I am 50). Is Dr. Rahal old fashioned and obsolete (out of date with modern techniques and contemporary expectations)? One thread suggested excellent results can only be expected 1/10 times, and 2/10 times were failures. The remaining 7 out of 10 were, on average, middling (which is the same as a failure for me, for fear of being detectable). Two other quotes for me (from SpaMedica and Dr. Asaria's Face clinic) came in at $9,000, vs. $22,000 for Dr. Rahal. Does this make sense? Even with the loss of the deposit, I would cut my costs dramatically by going elsewhere, and I am far from rich. Also, is 3,000 grafts too much for a single sitting (this was in my quote)? Your responses would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
  23. Unless things have changed in the last year, there are basically zero good doctors in Toronto except Dr. Rahal. You are in excellent hands.
  24. Hey Rob, any update? Did you go for the second appointment with Dr. Rahal?
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