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  1. This is a thread documenting my recent 2612 graft FUE procedure with Dr. Rahal. I'm a NW3A in his late twenties/early thirties who has battled hair loss over the past few years. I've done the big three more or less consistently over the past few years and finally bit the bullet on doing a procedure after some bad experiences at work and with women that convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt how important having hair really is. After doing some research last year I finally settled for Rahal. The Procedure As the thread says, I did a 2612 FUE procedure, which yielded a total of 5336 hairs. The total graft count was as follows: 1 unit: 547 2 unit: 1426 3 unit: 619 4 unit: 20 His head nurse technician Mike did all the extractions with a motorized extraction tool. Rahal did the incisions, and finally implanting was carried out by Mike and another experienced technician (6-7 years of experience). Two additional staff members assisted. The procedure lasted for 12 hours from 06:00 until 18:00. During the extractions I bled a bit more than usual, otherwise the procedure went smoothly. The clinic as most of you know does multiple procedures; another FUE procedure was going on the same day, for crown work. I stayed awake for the majority of the procedure and opted not to watch a movie as I wanted the staff to remain focused while they were working on me. My impression during the procedure was that they took their work seriously. I have some minor observations that I'll share based on the final outcome, but nothing serious. Worth noting here is that they were using a tool that had been introduced during the past 2.5-3 months, called an "implanter". This is essentially a plastic tube that reduces damage to the graft during implantation and allows for denser packs. According to the doctor this is part of a major shift across the industry. Apparently Lorenzo, Bernstein, Erdogan and other famous docs are already using this, though since adoption is somewhat recent only Erdogan has final results on file. During my consultation I became quite concerned about this as it introduced an additional element of uncertainty to the process. However, the doctor stressed to me that Erdogan's results had been amazing and that the introduction of the implanters would reduce risk rather than increase it. Pre-op/Post-op and Patient Experience As detailed by many others over the years here, this is a clinic that takes patient care and post-operative follow-up very seriously. A lot of thought has been put into the "journey" that you take from showing the first interest to submitting the final follow-up photos. I won't spend too much time on this here, just state for the record that I have had a uniformly positive experience throughout. I really like the staff and they have come across in a sympathetic manner in all the interactions I've had with them. The doctor himself is a good man. He has rock solid ethics. While there I met a NW3 patient who to my semi-trained eye would seem like a good candidate, but was ultimately turned down. For this patient there was a risk of donor depletion, and his final pattern of loss would make the transplanted hairline seem odd if the loss progressed. Another, younger patient was turned down during my time there as well, due to his loss being too minor. Some reviews I saw characterized him as seeming "rushed", however I have had the complete opposite impression. He has been very generous with his time to address my various concerns and my myriad of different questions about post-op care and the procedure itself. Personality-wise he does have a bit of swagger to him, however in a way that I associate with high performers from work. Full marks for him and his team in this respect. My concerns The industry is "caveat emptor", and I take some blame for poor research in selecting my surgeon. My intention with choosing Dr. Rahal was to derisk my procedure, which I thought I had done by going for a clinic with a good reputation online. I did not want to go to Turkey, and had been somewhat underwhelmed by the results of the euro surgeons that were available in a reasonable timeframe. Rahal is routinely mentioned in top #3 lists across the internet and I also spoke with a former patient of his that I trust, and got his assurances that a large FUE session would not be a problem. I dodged most of the obvious bullets, like ARTAS, newbie techs, dense packed Armani hairlines, cheapo third-world surgeons and fallen greats. However, I overlooked the negative experiences of forum member Sean (which I believe was due to a combination of physiology and inexperienced staff members working on him during his initial procedure) and SugarHighs (combination of factors but probably physiology seeing as the hairs grew and then shed), and some of the other rather subpar FUE results floating around here. Ignoring the fact that Sean's procedure was back in 2011, most of the results you can find are rather old and there isn't really a plethora of recent complete hairline FUE results similar to what I was going for. Some of the patient results posted here evidence poor growth, though there is clearly a trend of better performance over the years. Mike told me that they generally don't get poor growth, time will tell but he seemed confident when he said it. I should mention that the most recent results you can find here, those of zx_toth and ftbpicks, both had very good growth and final results. I guess I've attached some new meaning to "doing your research". It really means going the extra mile; scouring the web for results and first-hand accounts, and compiling everything into a timeline. Contact former patients that stopped updating. Get everything in writing before you go in, like how many techs will be working on you, what tools will be used and the doctor's involvement in the surgery. No matter how this procedure turns out, I'll be much more careful with my next one, that's for sure. The road ahead: The way I see it, I'm taking one for the team here, essentially. If the results turn out great then that should help assuage anyone who's apprehensive about doing a larger FUE procedure with this doctor. As I said, the patient experience is top notch and I'd recommend anyone that can handle a FUT scar to go with Rahal. Attached are some pre-op, post-op day 1, and day 11 pictures. I'll get some higher res pictures soon so I'll upload those as soon as possible. However, having browsed a few of these threads over the years I know most people don't care too much about the post-op pictures, the final results are what matter. I'm committing to semi-regular updates until the 12 month mark. Other recent FUE patients of Dr. Rahal are welcome to post here, especially those that are far enough out from the procedure to see how it turned out.
  2. Hi Folks, Long time lurker; My very first post here with the intent to share and contribute based on my upcoming surgery in India with Darling buds and most importantly “ My results “ in the next few months. I feel morally obligated to contribute at least something back to this community that offers : A worldwide network of HT experts, reputed Senior members sharing invaluable info, Top rated HT surgeons positioning their point of views and most importantly "real patients sharing real stories". Background Male in mid-thirties from Canada; NW 3 - Less/More. Past 6 years were dark and depressing. Living in a fool’s paradise; using Toppik daily assuming everything’s fine but somewhere at a deeper level; it continuously bothered me. Finally in 2019; I made the big decision to get a HT. This website is the main reason as to why I was able to solidify on my research, move ahead with a concrete decision and was able to find one of the best doctor (just being positive here) as per my checklist/strict criteria. Special thanks to the Creator of this website – Kudos to the brain that kicked off this humanitarian initiative as it continues to educate millions of potential patients like myself. Why Darling Buds India (I guess they changed the name to 5 Rivers Hospital ) This piece takes forever to decide especially for someone like me who spends gazillions of hours on the Internet/YouTube/Forums. I was always skeptical about giving my Head to someone to be operated; so consulted with many Canadian, American, European, Indian and Turkish clinics. Many reputed names like Dr. Rahal ( Known as the hairline king from Canada), Dr Acar ( Cosmedica Turkey), Dr. Erdogan ( Turkey), Aestimed ( Turkey), LA Hair ( USA), Qunomedical ( Belgium & German clinics), Dr. Cinik ( Turkey) and the list goes on……………………………………………. but None fitted my checklist in it's entirety reflecting 8 Key deciding factors that was prepared after extensive research for years 🙄 : 1. Max cost under 10,000 CAD ( 7500 USD ) for 3500-4000 Grafts to be able to achieve maximum density in my case. YES, I decided to find the best treatment within this range. IMHO, paying this much should suffice in getting you a world class, still affordable HT in today’s age with advanced Technologies, Globalization, the power of internet and competitive market. It's costing me around 9000 CAD ( including some expensive flight tickets) with Dr. Bhatti which seems adequate for the reputation he has or rather a steal ( not sure - will tell later) If budget wasn’t a constraint, I would’ve booked Dr. Rahal ( Canada ) who is local to me OR Dr. Baubac ( Alvi Armani USA) more importantly to save myself from the hassle of flying 20 hours one way, then drive to a different city, book a hotel for a week, apply for a visa, Take few weeks of vacation from work etc. Dr Rahal charges 8 CAD per FUE, most other clinics would cost the same in N. America for FUE Treatment. It’s costing me around 2.40 CAD with Dr. Bhatti ( includes all international/ Local flights, Visa, Hotel, Food, Cab etc.). If you compare Dr Bhatti's fee with his peers who fall in the same reputed arena of global doctors, I think most would sign this off as a great offering for hair loss patients globally. Eugenix quoted around 4 CAD per graft but it was for DHI method. They produced some great results lately and they are the inventors of DHI which is now adapted globally; goes to show that they are researchers also - very impressive. As of 2019, I think Dr. Bhatti and Eugenix should be compared as top players if India is the selected destination for your HT Journey ( My comparison below) I almost finalized Eugenix over Dr. Bhatti but then based on my research, took a U Turn : Eugenix positive aspects: 1. Biggest is DHI - OUT/IN grafts within minutes. Definitely better method as compared to Traditional FUE . I could only find positives so far, no negatives on DHI. It's hard to logically beat DHI method with traditional FUE; so no doctor should even try it IMO. I wish Dr Bhatti would offer DHI to his patients by now ☹ 2. Clinics are located in major cities like Delhi and Mumbai. No need to drive / fly again from major airport all the way to Chandigarh. Eugenix Negative aspects: 1. Some patients mentioned that they were taken for a ride. Eugenix Docs prey on foreign nationals; after or during mid surgery – Dr. Bansal asked for 500 more grafts payment as required and payment must be done during the middle of the operation ( insane); also no breakdown/reasoning was provided in the end. On the contrary, Darling buds has returned some fee to few patients to their surprise which is a classy act of ethical business in my opinion (hard to find) 2. Eugenix costs are almost double than Darling buds( quite expensive for many) but anyways DHI is more costlier than traditional FUE globally and if results are better with more graft survival rate, most patients wouldn't mind paying more. 3. Eugenix is run in a satellite office format, more than one location and hard to get a hold of prime doctors - Dr. Sethi and Dr. Bansal where as Dr. Bhatti provides a peace of mind with one location, one clinic, one doctor who is also the owner of that entire facility with 15 good staff members well trained under him in a peaceful non polluted city near a hill station. #3 was a critical factor in my decision to go with Dr. Bhatti In short, I would’ve loved DHI for best results but I settled with FUE for now Note: Out of thousands, This site recommends ONLY 2 surgeons from Turkey, 7 surgeons from India and 1 from Canada ( I was surprised to see only Dr. Rahal in the list, yes Hasson is there but they're again advocates of FUT ), so HRN really helped me short list 10 surgeons before making the final call 2. ONLY FUE for ME – My heart said a Big “No“ to a linear scar; doesn’t matter if some Doctors persuade you with somewhat genuine reasoning's to avoid FUE such as : FUE provides Less density, FUT offers more grafts and saves Donor area as untouched for future sessions, FUE is a blind process etc. Dr. Feller and Dr. Soni ( Medispa India) seems like the two biggest advocates of FUT over FUE and I agree with some of their explanations as it sounds logical. Dr. Soni really pushed me to sign up with FUT and said his scar technique is different. Promised that he will close it in a way where almost no scarring is visible . It was tough buying into that argument, additionally recent negative reviews about him and I finally decided to brush him aside at that point. 3. Doctor MUST perform the operation (No technicians) – I could only find someone as reputed as Dr. Bhatti who performs 80% of the procedures that includes Hair trimming (to feel your hair ), Anesthesia, FUE Extractions with motorized punch and Incisions. In Turkey where I was almost sold at one point, all operations are run by Technicians. Not a Plastic surgeon, no educational background/ competency level ( it's scary as they're known as the butchers of HT industry) I wish Dr. Bhatti would implant the grafts too ( not his nurses) for extra cost but I guess it will be a tedious job for a busy surgeon to sit for another 4 hours or so ....... Am I asking for too much 4. World class facility matching North American standards : with Heart rate monitoring, proper blood tests, blood pressure check up, spotless , Face coverings during entire operation and sterile environment. 5. Super microscopes and Magnifiers is a must ( Most Turkish clinics operate with naked eyes, when I asked they tried to sell me bull *&**** ) This is extremely important during all 4 phases of operation : Extraction – To make sure proper gaps are left in between grafts in the donor area and get the right angle before using the punch. Sorting – To count how many pure singles, doubles, triples and quads ( if any ) are collected. Incisions – To ensure least collateral damage, magnifier will show 6 x scalp surface so during incisions, holes are made at the right angle, depth and only on bald scalp areas ( not where you've some fine hairs). This should also minimize some shock loss in the post op phase. Implantation - Imperative to only use pure singles / baby soft hairs in the very first few rows of hairline and Temples. If by mistake, they implant doubles – it will give a pluggy look and I would rate that transplant as 50% failed right then and there. If during implant, nurses grab a multi - haired graft, at least microscopes will allow them to revisit to find a pure single graft and then insert it in the right spot. Joe Tillman's video is quite helpful : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeQ4ZvEHb7Y 6. Doctor should have a solid reputation on major forums, hair restoration network, should be well read, traveled, have some global exposure, recommended by Bald-truth, Spex and many other HT mentors like Joe Tillman. Dr. Bhatti checks all those boxes. Yes – there are some mixed opinions about him (and every other Top HT surgeon out there) but perfection is impossible to achieve; so I decided to just look at the bigger picture and go for it. 7. Detailed info, pre op care, post op care, regular contacts and supporting your patients in their hours of greatest needs is of utmost importance. Its well know that Dr. Bhatti, Shera ( his rep) , California would contact their ex. Patients regarding some concerns, would stand by them and not disappear. This was impressive. 8. Patient advisor should be genuine, honest and straightforward – So far, Shera has been awesome, friendly and taking care of all my minor/ major concerns. Always reachable, quick responses and a real time patient who has experienced the same Doctor few years ago first hand. In the long run, it helps to have a contact like him for small chats if need be. I will continue to share my Journey with Darling buds and also, highlight If any red flags are there. So far, I’m just one naive internet researcher in this field who talks based on theories and hypothetical situations, I don’t have any practical experiences yet. Assuming I've made a good decision by choosing this clinic (over others) and trying to keep a positive mindset hoping I will be in good hands is the only thing I can do now. One Sr. Member said it wisely – “For Dr. Bhatti and his staff ( or other clinics) 18th March will be just another day with another patient like thousands came before and will come after, but for a patient who’s been researching on this constantly day/night, it’s a big life event and 18th is one of the most important day of his life after which either he could regain his lost confidence or could loose it forever “ After all, handing off your head to someone for the entire day isn’t one easy decision I’ve seen members here supporting each other against doctors if results aren’t satisfactory. That speaks volumes and the main reason as to why I joined here to gain support from my so called “Anonymous hair restoration family” Dr. Bhatti's hairlines were talked about – not too dense? Any suggestions? Should I revisit this with him ? I don't want a sparse hairline but Not sure if this was an old issue (one -off) Also, I’ve not met Dr Bhatti for any F2F consulting yet or a video consultation, plan is to meet him a day before my procedure. So far, Shera is my driving force. I’m hoping for a life changing experience (like many others), regain my lost confidence and I always say “ Hope “ is something that brings us to these Doctor’s doorsteps. Yes finance and reviews are important aspects but we all hope to be treated in the best possible way during our special treatment day. A little daunting for me to fly all the way, get operated in a surgical room, holes in my head but I’m collecting all the courage in this world to get this done. Shera is helping like one true Samaritan If some of you are able to read this completely, my apologies for such a long note but this is the only forum where I am able to write everything anonymously and vent out if need be. My Journey to be continued……………………………………………………………………………………............................................
  3. Hello, I just wanted to give my experience with Scalp Micropigmentation other know as SMP. I had the SMP procedure done at Dr. Rahal's clinic in Ottawa. I was skeptical at first but after my consultation with Fiona I was definitely ready to have this procedure done. I have to say. she is an artist at what she does. not only is she very professional but the whole staff was great. Fiona is very highly skilled at what she does and is very meticulous to detail. The procedure was painless that I was able to work while having the SMP procedure done. My wife and daughters noticed right away how I looked more younger just by Fiona bringing my natural hairline back. I now have more confidence, I don't wear hats as much as I use too. I have to thank Fiona and The Dr. Rahal team for the wonderful experience. I definitely recommend SMP to anyone who is contemplating on getting the SMP procedure done at Dr. Rahal's clinic. Thank you again Fiona!
  4. I wanted a more natural hairline and Dr. Rahal and Fiona did exactly that and than some. Took 3 sessions to achieve this full look. This is more permanent but touch ups will be needed which is known with SMP.
  5. Hey guys, 4 months in a few days and not seeing much of anything. A few stray hairs that never fell out but really nothing. Looking for some feedback. Anybody have something similar but end with strong results? Will post pics soon.
  6. Bill - Managing Publisher

    Are Rahal results inconsistent?

    Keep in mind that consistency are not the same as perfection. In my opinion, his results are quite consistently not. However, no surgeon that’s 1000. There are always cases of less than optimal growth and potential problems that can occur. That’s why patients have to sign a disclosure agreement before they enter into surgery. It is an elective procedure that has a high rate of success in the right surgical hands. Dr. Rahal has been amongst the best for over 10 years in my opinion and if something has changed, then I would certainly like to know so we can investigate it. However, I have not seen many people complain about the results and post their full experience with Photos. I’ve heard couple people complain recently that they aren’t happy like Bman. However, I do encourage these people to contact the surgeon to discuss these concerns and if they choose to share their experience and photos on this forum which they are welcome to, they will need to allow the doctor to share his side of the story along with photos… As long as no identifying information is shown. Best, Bill
  7. Hi all, I want to perform FUE hair transplantation in Dr.Rahal clinic. I have searched in the forum regarding FUE hair transplantation of Dr.Rahal but i did not find many posts. (only older post before 5-10 years). Do you recommend on him by doing FUE HT in his clinic ? If you know the most specialist doctor in FUE technique, i would glad to hear who is it. If someone has done here FUE HT Rahal`s clinic in the recent years would glad to hear.
  8. Hello Everyone, Many of you may know me formerly as 'literalno'. I want to preface by saying that username was made in complete negativity before I knew anything about hair transplants and what they can do for people. I was aimlessly searching for answers to my fears associated with propecia and stumbled across a particularly unsightly before/after ultimately assuaging me from ever becoming one of "those hair transplant guys"; hence literal(ly)no(never). I decided to make this thread around the 6 month mark ( I am now a little closer to 7) to promote good vibes for the second leg of the process since I am quite frankly not at my end goal, but very optimistic for what should be the most productive leg of this often tumultuous journey. Much of my skepticism stems from how my hairloss occurred in the first place, and the measures I have taken thus far to fix it. It started very suddenly a few years ago during a rough time in my life. I was going through a tough period and the stress seemed to spur its onset seemingly overnight. I knew what had happened, but everyone around me obviously assured me "its all in your head" (yeah right). About two years ago I was at my wits end before coming across Dr. Amaya Prasad's "Hair Regeneration" treatment in New York (this guys should honestly be put in jail for making these claims, complete snake oil). This miracle injection featured A Cell AND PRP (WOW) as he claimed it halted and in some cases reversed hairloss all together. I was sold and flew to New York within a month, paid the $15 000 up front, got the injection, and slowly but surely thinned some more only this time more rapidly. By a few months time, I knew it was failure and I needed to try something else. Next thing I know I'm on a plane to Boston getting A Cell + Adipose Derived Stem Cells injected into my scalp (I have the lipo scars to prove it) and finally my hair would be saved. Of course, this was not the case, however the only saving grace was that the Dr. in Boston kept recommending finasteride. It took my a few more months to finally bite the bullet and get on the drug. Been on it for about 2 years, with a brief stint of Dutasteride until my doctor felt uneasy about that one, and I halted everything to a snails pace at long last. Of course after all of these experiences with Dr's who "have my best interest in mind", I remain skeptical of everyone and everything until I am proven otherwise (on my own scalp that is). Finally deciding to get a hair transplant was not a task I took lightly. I got to the same point as everyone on this forum does, an inflection point where you choose to suffer and wear hats 24/7, or take a step towards fixing the situation as scary as it may seem. I researched thoroughly for about a year, combing through result after result, and was conflicted between Hasson and Wong and RAHAL. I was able to meet three Rahal patients before my surgery, and the results spoke for themselves. There was also one bad H and W result floating around that ultimately confirmed my choice, and I chose Rahal and FUT to maximize my yield since I am young and want to conserve as many grafts as possible. I was assured during consultation by Sita, some of you may know here here, that Dr. Rahal has close to 100% yield and I believed (and still believe) her words. I don't want to go into details about the surgery itself as I plan to do a big one year post to look back on the last year, I hope in fondness. There's really no point in delving too deep into the minutia of anything until at least that date. It could have been the best time of life or not but that doesn't change the only thing that matters: the end results. I would like to bring attention to a few concerns I've had along the way in hopes of getting some feedback from members who I'm sure have shared my sentiments at some point. I was grafted at approximately 40 grafts/cm squared (roughly 70+ hairs per cm). In my opinion, this would provide me with the coverage I am after, however after my 10 hour surgery, Dr. Rahal did mention it may look thin in some instances. Though I appreciate the honesty, it did get my mind spinning especially after what I had just endured moments before. I reached out to Dr. Nadimi at around 3 months to get her opinion on what that may look like, and her feelings were quite the contrary as she assured me that in the area I showed her, 3000+ grafts would indeed provide a pretty dense result. This may simply be a difference in opinion between the two doctors, but of course contrary information leads the mind to wander. Does anyone know or have a result similar to 40 grafts/cm and like to comment on how that appears in person? I would like point out that my reaching out to Dr. Nadimi is in no way a slight to my trust in Dr. Rahal. I would not have gone to any clinic if I did not have the utmost conviction in their ability to produce a good result. It is merely me as a patient seeking a second opinion on a matter that concerns me, and that's it. In now way does it reflect any negative connotation towards Dr. Rahal and the credibility of the clinic. Unlike many threads I've looked at, my grafts were very scabbed over within 5-7 days of my surgery. Many of the hairs had definitely released themselves from their respective follicle at that point, so I never really got to see a 'buzzcut' representation of what I should expect before the shedding phase as is common among this forum, particularly with Asmed patients. Having not seen too many similar examples, I questioned whether those grafts has survived or not, but have been assured that there is no real way to know until the final result. I've read from a few different doctors online that the visual presence of grafts in the scalp about a week after surgery is a sign they have survived, so naturally it has been on my mind somewhat. My surgery took just over 10 hours. After the surgery, the clinic's lead technician Mike commented on the procedure was like placing "9000 grafts instead of 3000" because my skin was quite slippery and as a graft was placed, the adjacent grafts would slip out. Dr. Rahal has himself said this may slightly affect yield, but other Dr.s on realself say they have never heard of this phenomenon and attribute that to poor skill of implanters. Of course, I know this is not the case at a clinic with the reputation of RAHAL, but would like to know if other patients have experienced a similar thing and how everything turned out for them? Lastly, at approximately 1month post op, I went into the clinic (I live in Ottawa) to see if Larissa (my patient advisor) could try and apply some topik to the persisting redness of my scalp as I had a few job interviews coming up (for anyone in a similar position, the redness went completely unnoticeable and was not a factorv whatseover). The topik looked absolutely ridiculous and I wanted to rub it off almost right away. She proceeded to use an alcohol wipe to hasten the process, but her rubbing was very hard and did hurt my scalp quite a lot. Obviously after looking after transplanted area with extreme care for the previous month, being SUPER, SUPER gentle the entire time, I was very concerned with whether the pain and tingling I felt would affect the grafts. I've read many times before the clinics such as Asmed and Lorenzo say not to even use clippers for the first 6 months as it could damage the area, but I'm not sure how necessary that really is. Larissa and Dr. Rahal assured me that the grafts were deep within the skin and could not be harmed, but I'm sure you can agree that any painful sensation on a newly grafted area is worrisome at the least. Anyone have any thoughts as to what they have heard from their respective clinics, if anything at all? As for those results, I wanted to hold off on starting a thread until I had something closer to the final thread, but there seems to be a lack of posts by actual Dr. Rahal patients, so I figured this would as good as any for prospective patients looking to track a result as it dues completion. It's tough to comment on my progress in terms of percentage of total grafts sprouted (doesn't appear to be 50% if looking by grafts/cm as most have well below 20 atm), I'll let my pictures show everything and the forum can decide objectively how it's looking. I will say that I appear to be a very slow and gradual grower, so I'm just letting time do its trick for the time being. I have read and seen many results that improve night to day between 6-7 months and a year or later, so I am hoping I am on track for the same. It's easy to get fixated on those that are early growers, so for now I'd prefer to spread positive vibes. This procedure is does not come free of anxiety, we all know that, but I gain solace in knowing that this clinic performs multiple surgeries each and every week and has been for the last 15+ years. They are masters and though the process may be long, they know what they are doing. The following pictures start with my pre-op photos, then post-op, 7-days post op (scabbing), a dr. frietas result at 10 days that shows what I mean about being able to see the majority of individual hairs still attached to their grafts before they shed, and finally photos photos taken by me at 6 months. Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on the progress so far.
  9. Every clinic will put out their best work, as they should that is the logical thing to do. Obviously, if you are a bald Norwood 6 your result will not be the same as a Norwood 2 with minor recession. Every single hair transplant clinic cherry pick their best results. This is why forums like this one are so important, because you see unfiltered uncensored raw results. If you search Dr. Rahal's name on the forum you will see some outstanding results that are not cherry picked at all.
  10. Thanks for the explanation and clarification Tara. Guys, no surgeon is perfect, but Dr. Rahal has been an elite surgeon for well over a decade. His resume and track record speaks for itself.
  11. Hi Kvn, There is not a single reputed HT surgeon in this world whose results are consistent ( Dr. Rahal Included). Reason: There are so many variables that act as a huge dependency for each patient's results to be successful such as: Hair/Graft quality and how many doubles, triples, quads you naturally are gifted with Are you willing to religiously take all meds, Finas, Rogaine, Dermarolling, exercise, strict diet , Yoga and .............. so on Your body's immunity to recover from any trauma, natural health and recovery factors Your stress levels, hormones, genetic condition , sleep patterns your luck with the surgery - like any surgery, its always the " luck factor" that's extremely important for a great result. also Note: 70% is doctors skills but 30% is patients own drive over the next few years to achieve the best results. some would say its 60/40 ratio . No doctor is a magician who will give you the best result within a single day operating on it, its your head, hair, hard work for life
  12. Hi folks. So I'm finally ready to take the plunge, live in Toronto Canada and have narrowed my short list to Dr. Nadimi in Chicago (of Konior fame), H&W in Vancouver, and Dr. Rahal in Toronto. My consults with each of them went like this: Dr. Nadimi: FaceTime consult Surgery in Chicago 1500-2000 FUE grafts recommended, could be all the way up to 2400 Shes not entirely sure she can get 2400 FUE grafts from my donor area based on photos and not-so-great FaceTime connection She will perform all extracts and most implants, will be there the entire time Does not feel comfortable doing more than 2400 FUE in a session due to scalp blood supply and time that grafts need to be implanted by (~8 hours) Uses latest tech, hybrid dull/sharp punch, learned everything from Konoir Potentially a discount for future hair transplants No official growth guarantee Recommended to stay in Chicago for a week to get looked after by the clinic Seems like a high end operation Dr. Rahal (Aaron and Tara did the consult): Aaron started the consult and was decent, called in Tara in the middle who blew me away In person consult Surgery in Toronto Measured a total of approx 5000 FUE grafts available in donor area 2500-3000 FUE grafts recommended for 1st transplant of hairline, will likely need another 2500 down the road for crown and touch up, aiming for 45-50 follicles per square cm Estimated Norwood 4-5 in the future No issues doing 3000 FUE in 8 hours, they have done 4200 in a day before Also uses latest hybrid dull/sharp punch tech Rahal and Mike will perform the extractions, Rahal will make the incisions and someone other than Rahal will implant Growth guarantee and free touch ups (not sure what the fine print is around this) Discounted graft rate for future transplants Patient care team access for a year Suggested pairing with PRP Hasson & Wong (James did the consult): In person consult Surgery in Vancouver 3000 FUE grafts recommended, possibly have 5000-6000 FUE grafts in donor area 3000 FUE done over two days, they limit surgeries to about 2000 FUE per day Recommended Dr. Hasson due to hairline objective (Wong more for crown work) Each doctor has performed 10,000+ surgeries Also uses latest hybrid dull/sharp punch tech, 0.85 punch size Techs do the extraction and implantation, Hasson performs incisions Estimated Norwood 5A future recession Informal growth guarantee and free touch ups Discounted future transplants For out of town patients they offer free lodging (3 days), taxis to and from the airport, and a partial flight credit I have to say, Rahal's team did the best sell job and I'm leaning that way.. but is 2500-3000 FUE too ambitious for one day? Am I risking hairs due to them rushing? I don't want to bias your opinion any more than that, but based on your experience on this forum, knowledge, what was said above and my pictures, what would you do? Any other insight or commentary you could offer before I make the plunge? Are there any other GTA doctors that I must absolutely check out? Hoping to finalize a decision in the next few days. REALLY appreciate all the help and support you guys can give. Thanks.
  13. *CLICK MY HAIRLOSS WEBSITE TO SEE MY UPDATES* Hello Everyone, I have been in touch with quite a few people on these forums, people I work with, relatives, etc., and I know you all want to see more and more of Dr. Rahal's FUE work. I am starting this thread to inform those that are interested in FUE or those seeking large FUE sessions with Dr. Rahal and want to see the quality of his work with FUE. I am finally going to have my first hair restoration procedure at the end of August. I have been reading these forums for a while and after lots of research and sleepless nights reading, I have decided to go with Dr. Rahal as my doctor. I did have a list of doctors to choose from for FUE (from California, to other parts of U.S., Europe/Turkey), but ultimately came to choose Dr. Rahal due to the very high quality of his hairlines shown on these forums and the fact he was offering FUE. I did consider him a while ago when he was only known to do strip, but that was when I was thinking about strip. Times have changed and I keep my hair on the sides short (a fade with a clip one or near skin fade), so strip was no longer of interest. When I found out he started offering FUE, I decided to book a procedure with him. The procedure is estimated to be 3000 grafts to re-establish my hairline, frame the face, temple work, etc. The focus is not going to be on the crown as I will be continuing to take Finasteride and will start to take Rogaine after a month post op OR as the doctor suggests. This is a FUE procedure and it is estimated to be a two day procedure. Correct me if I am wrong, but I might be the first 3000 graft FUE patient from Dr. Rahal you will be seeing postings and updates from on this particular forum. He has had many FUE patients, even those over 3000 grafts for FUE, but I am a patient that is actually DOCUMENTING my procedure to show others/get feedback/opinions. Procedure is set for the end of August. I will be staying at the Foxbar guesthouse and will give a very detailed written experience of my stay, the procedure, everything related to my hair loss experience at all levels. If you think you need me to answer anything else, let me know now so I can make a note to answer that question/category. Let me know if I am missing anything. I'll even try to give live updates when I am in the doctor's chair. Be ready to see my updates in a few days. Initial Booking For FUE Experience: I took interest in FUE when I first heard Dr. Rahal was performing it at a larger scale, I believe this information of introductory FUE by Dr. Rahal was available through MattJ's postings a year ago. I contacted Matt through these forums and we negotiated with Adrian and the clinic for booking. I then spoke with Adrian on the phone at the time, and in order to lock the price of my procedure he needed a deposit, so I gave him a 2,000 Canadian Dollar deposit back around sometime in September 2010 for my surgery coming up August 2011. I have to say one thing though, that MattJ was very good at answering all my emails/questions/concerns and good at replying to all of my questions and I found him very professional. Important Payment Information For Patients In U.S. Etc. I think this is very important that people understand this, especially, those that are not familiar with making transfers or purchases in countries other then their own. This is particularly important to understand because what your cost of procedure is quoted at can possibly end up costing more due to these very important factors. Paying Through Banks: If you wire money, you will incur wiring fees of $45 (more or less depending on what your bank designates it to be). That is obviously a cost that you will face no matter what. However, there may be something that you are not aware of that might get you no matter what. That is that most banks charge a "hidden premium" on money that you will wire. Here is an in depth explanation as to why or how this occurs. The exchange rate you see in the market, is not the rate you will necessarily get. For example, say the exchange rate according XE Currency Rate online quotes 1 CAD = 1.01875 USD, it does not necessarily mean you will get that rate when that is the actual market rate. If you type in "1 cad to usd" exactly the way I wrote it in the google search box, that is the live market rate and you will not get that rate depending on the organization you use. So, in my case I saw live rates using various currency exchange websites all over the place being quoted for 1 CAD = 1.018 USD, however, my bank even though I showed them all these rates, charged me around 1 CAD= 1.046 rate. Now, that can make a big difference when you are transferring thousands of dollars to pay for your procedure. For example, hypothetically, say if you are paying $20,000 for a procedure and you used the actual rate of 1 CAD=1.01875 USD, it cost you $20,375 + the banks wiring fees. However, that will not be what you pay as you are assuming, it will end up being 1CAD=1.046 which will be your banks rate, making your cost $20,920 + the banks wiring fees. This will depend on the current market exchange rate, as well as, what financial institution you are using. So, there is a hidden premium you will face and you can't really do anything about it. This is because banks and other organizations can pick a rate of their choosing. They are given exchange rates by the settling institutions and then add on a certain % to that rate to earn a small profit or negate the risk of the rate moving out of their favor in a loss on the transaction. It could be more or less, but that depends on the organization/financial institution you use to transfer your funds. My advice is to stay away from Wells Fargo and their so called "competitive" exchange rates. Paying Through Credit Cards: Here is another way to pay or make deposits. They also charge a premium. Every credit card varies, it can be 3% or 5% or etc, depending on the card. This is their transaction "fees". On top of that, be careful of the exchange rate they use, as that will also make a difference. People have spent thousands more using credit cards because of their crazy rates when paying for foreign services or transactions. What I learned about Paying for Foreign Transactions: I had trouble getting an answer out of credit companies on exchange rates. They seem to lie, they told me they will match the rate according to the market rate, but I too have found out some of those guys lie. I know if you have a Capital One credit card, they may not charge any transaction fees so look into that. Call Capital One to confirm this. I have read about it all over the web. On another note, talk to a couple of banks, not the tellers, but the people sitting inside the bank helping new customers etc (experienced agents with college degrees). Ask them how their exchange rate system works and if they are able to send money to any bank in Canada. That is because some banks may not directly transfer money to a Canadian bank. Take a look at TD BANK, and a couple of others. Like I said before, Wells Fargo is anything but competitive. They do not give you the live rate, yet give a higher rate but don't tell you it's a hidden premium, they just tell you that's what the computer and their system is telling them and that they do not know how their rates are calculated. Yes, that was the answer given to me by them. I had no choice but to use them as I had to pay 2 weeks prior to my surgery date as that is when the money was due and couldn't transfer my funds to another bank or another cheaper service, so I got screwed. Now, there was an online service that transfers FUNDS at the LIVE MARKET rate, that may save you TONS of money, but they said it takes them anywhere between 2-3 days to 2 weeks to transfer the funds directly to the receiving bank. That service is called OANDA. They are probably your best bet you might want to call them. I wanted to use them, but like I said, my payment was due 2 weeks prior to surgery, and at the risk of them taking 2-3 days to 2 weeks to transfer, it would have collided with my surgery date or after. I found out about them the same day I was getting ready to transfer money. Was too late, unfortunately. So, take a look. Give them a call. Here is their website link. I am not promoting them, but rather helping you out by using them to save money possibly. Here is the link: Money Transfer | Send Money Online | OANDA FXGlobalTransfer You can calculate the LIVE market rate and the amount you will pay right now at the link I posted above. You are going to convert USD to send Canadian. I think their services are only available for American and Canadian consumers. So, foreign customers may have to find their own service to transfer large sums of money. Call and ask them all questions regarding the bank you will transfer to, how long will it take, your total costs, how it works, and etc. If you want to book surgery in Canada, i'd use a credit card to pay for deposit and then pay the rest using the service that gives you the BEST rate of transfer. Again, stay away from Wells Fargo, I say this from experience. Good Luck. I think people should be aware of these things when doing business anywhere outside their own country. Do your research on exchange rates and picking the best financial institutions offering the best rates. It can save you lots of money on top of an expensive hair restoration process. I really want forum members to be aware of this when it comes to foreign transactions. Whether you do your procedure in the U.S., Canada, Turkey, Europe, Etc., you need to be aware. For some, price may not be a factor, but for most of the public it is. My Arrival Experience: I chose to drive to Canada. It was a smart move considering most flights were either cancelled or the prices were inflated due to the hurricane "Irene". I did see some downed trees or very minor flooding during my drive past northern New York. It was a long drive to Ottawa. Took around 7-8 hours. The guards at the border asked why I was going to Ottawa. I had to show them some papers about surgery and the clinic address. They asked me what kind of surgery and I told them hair restoration/hair transplant. I drove straight to Dr. Rahal's clinic, started filling and looking through consent forms, met Dr. Rahal and asked questions, got an idea of hairline design for tomorrow, met the owner of Foxbar, and now currently typing from Foxbar. Surgery is on August 31st & September 1st. Any Issues: Just slight traffic. No problems at the border. Consent forms: These will scare you as they will reveal new things about the hair restoration process that you weren't really aware of before nor openly discussed or mentioned on these forums to a greater degree or at all. I'll explain what I mean later in depth or not. One example that you initial and understand that 10% of the patients could lose their transplanted donor hair. This is probably under certain circumstances though. Hairline design: My initial concern/restoration goal is related to the frontal hairline/temple areas. I want a hairline to reduce the look of a larger/wider forehead before I booked this procedure up until now. Before I started receding, my hair would cover up the look of my large forehead but now my forehead looks larger due to recession. Hair recession caused it to look larger/wider. My temple area was more defined at age 21 and since it isn't anymore at age 29, hair restoration is my only hope to re-construct/re-establish those areas as well. I feel a better constructed hairline/temple area/lower hairline is key to that. After my initial pre-op/meeting upon my initial arrival to Ottawa/Dr. Rahal's clinic (Aug 30, 2011), Dr. Rahal did create an example hairline on me the day before my procedure. I did tell him of my interest in re-establishing my widows peak and he said we could work that area as well. I did bring some photos of patients from his website that I thought the quality of work done was ideal to my goals, as well as some indian actor's photo to explain what I was looking for. He drew the hairline design on the temple area of the indian actor's photo he suggested would suit me. He did not want the temple area to be the same as the indian actor's as he explained it may look more like a feminine temple design. This area I am kind of unsure about because my goal was to have a similar temple design I had since my original temple design at age 21 reduced the look of a wider forehead. That wider/larger forhead issue was such a concern that I even contemplated a serious procedure such as forehead reduction once before. My concern now is depending on the transplantation/angulation of my temple area, if I will be confident enough to stick my hair up in the front, (this will depend on how wide my forehead will look in conjunction to the temple design, will it look less or more or in between to my goals, I don't know yet). This will be based on the temple design and hairline design Dr. Rahal is suggesting. I will show what I mean about the temple design by uploading that actor's photo and an in depth explanation of the design Dr. Rahal drew on that photo in depth. However, Dr. Rahal will create an official/exact hairline today before my procedure (7:00AM Aug 31,2011), so I will update you all again if any changes were made. Procedure estimation completion time: At the pre-op on August 30, 2011. Dr. Rahal told me that this procedure can take one day or two days. I believe im the only patient booked for the 31st. Depending on certain factors 3000 grafts can be done in a day or will be broken into two days. We are shooting for the full 3000 grafts, I really dont't want less but he will reimburse for grafts not used. My concern is if lesser amount of grafts are used, will it reach my goals or will I have to come back in a short time period to get a touch up. I'd like to wait a couple of years with peace of mind before returning for future procedures when I am busy focusing on my career. So, I want the foundation of my hair restoration procedure established well the first time around. If I need more grafts then so be it, but I want a stress free foundation to grow with. I don't want to return to focus on the same zones in the future, but rather move on to a different unworked zone for any possible future sessions. Pre-Op On FUE Session Day 1 Before Procedure: Dr. Rahal again discussed hairline, temple areas, and answered my other questions/concerns. Procedure FUE Day 1: I spoke with Dr. Rahal once more to design hairline and get pictures taken before I was headed for my procedure. Immediate Post-Op FUE Session/Checkup Day 1 August 31st Duration: Estimated procedure time from 7:20AM to 7:40PM Experience: At the beginning of the procedure, during the freezing of the scalp, I felt the shots were painful, towards the middle of the procedure I didn't feel much but as we got closer to the end, the freezing wore off on and off. I tried to be like rambo and absorb some of the pain, but when I couldn't id request some pain relief. This was a very long procedure. It felt like it was never going to end. Even when it did end, it wasn't over yet. Dr. Rahal is a perfectionist, he felt that something did not look how he wanted, he sat me back in the chair and did what he had to do until he was satisfied he did a great job. So, he tweaked a few FUE hairs to a location on the scalp he found they would look best placed in. I got some pictures taken and was given a kit to use when I go back home that had everything I needed to care for my grafts. Discomfort Level (Scale 1-10): Freezing shots 8 discomfort, Middle of procedure 4 discomfort, End of procedure 6 discomfort. When I got back to the guest house, I was in mild to severe pain throughout the night. Pain killers did work to some extent, but that severe pain was mostly gone the next day, the sides were still sensitive though. Some people can manage with the pain, but I think it being a very long procedure, and me being tired, that could of played a role to my pain level. I barely had any sleep the night before my procedure thinking about it all night about what to expect in the next couple of hours. Post-Op FUE Check Up Day 2 September 1st Experience: Was in for a daily cleaning and check up. Everything looked good with the grafts and donor area. I got some swelling going on. Discomfort Level (Scale 1-10): Between 6-7 , there was discomfort in the front, sides, back, all around it seemed a day after my procedure when I went for my initial cleaning Post-Op FUE Check Up Day 3 September 2nd Experience: Was in for a daily cleaning and check up. Everything looked good with the grafts and donor area. I got some serious swelling going on. Discomfort Level (Scale 1-10): Between 3-4 , sensitive in the back of my head and , especially, the sides Post-Op FUE Check Up Day 4 September 3rd Experience: Was in for a daily cleaning and check up. Everything looked good with the grafts and donor area. I got swelling still, especially on my lower eyelids. I can see better then I was able to the day before though. The swelling on the upper eyelid has reduced. Discomfort Level (Scale 1-10): Between 1-2, this was especially when I was getting the sides of my head cleaned. Departure September 3rd 7:20AM Experience: Left the clinic after my last cleaning/checkup and then left Ottawa, the roads were clear, no trouble at the border, got home by 2:20pm. I actually got home quicker then I did when I drove to Canada. I stopped along the way around two times to spray my grafts to keep them moist with the solution given to me. I did have swelling still, primarily on my forehead and underneath my eyes. The top of my eyelids were not swollen as they were the day before, that day I could not have drove back home, so I had to stay an extra day at the Foxbar guesthouse. Total Graft Breakdown: A total of 3016 grafts were implanted. 1091 singles, 1439 doubles, 407 threes, 79 fours, is the graft breakdown. Density consists of 65cm on hairline, behind hairline it is 55cm, sides are 50 cm, overall it is 58cm density. Dr. Rahal's clinic Experience: The clinic itself looks great. The waiting area and the surgical rooms are all well designed and super clean. Parking can be full as it was when I got there, but I found a space. Not really a big issue. The place looked as it should be and how it should be for such procedures. The operating room was nice and open area, it wasn't small or cluttered, gave me a comfortable feel for my surgery. There was a lcd tv in front of me, that was turned on when the grafts were being implanted. There was a decent size list to pick movies to watch from. Overall, I was impressed. Dr. Rahal's Staff Experience: The staff is absolutely amazing. They definitely try to keep you comfortable and show great concern. They were worried about me when I was dizzy/helped me resolve that issue. That sometimes happens when your in a certain position for a long time. They wanted to make sure I was comfortable during the process, provided me movies to watch. Were very concerned if I had adequate food after the procedure as well and etc. I was served plenty of fluids throughout the procedure, given food for lunch. Blood pressure and pulse were checked often. Everything seemed so precise. Everyone treated me well and I felt very comfortable with everyone. Dr. Rahal was great at answering all my concerns, he was making sure I was comfortable throughout the process, we even talked throughout the procedure. There were multiple techs working alongside with Dr. Rahal. That made me feel even more comfortable as there are many eyes watching, analyzing, and working during my procedure. I am very pleased with the quality of service and care provided by Dr. Rahal and his entire staff throughout my entire stay. I want to especially thank Dr. Rahal, Mike & other techs, as well as Tara and MattJ who answered my questions regarding bookings and etc. Foxbar Guesthouse Experience: This is very important for anyone coming in for surgery with Dr. Rahal. This has got to be the best place to stay for Dr. Rahal's patients. It beats hotels, the prices are fair (way cheaper then hotel prices), you got a self serve breakfast, you can walk outside, in the backyard, you have room to roam around, there are plenty of places to eat around the area, best of all it's right by Dr. Rahal's clinic ( you just have to walk like 2-3 blocks). It is so convenient. I think it is the ideal place if you are going to get a hair transplant with Dr. Rahal. The owner is a nice guy and he goes out of his way to make sure you are satisfied and happy. The rooms are clean, they got the right recliners in the house to sleep at a 45 degree angle, the place has wifi, I mean I can just keep going on and on. They even have a supply of medical covers for pillows and all that good stuff after your procedure. You got everything it seems. You can check out the pictures of the place on its website. You get to meet and talk to people that are in the same shoes as you. They either have gone through surgery or about to and you sit and talk with them and it's very comforting. Everyone I met there, were great people and we each shared our experiences, feelings about the procedure etc.. I was the only FUE procedure there at that time, everyone else got strip, but this made the whole hair restoration process easier. Getting to know the people and making friends to compare your results later with as well. You can't find that at any other hotel or place. It eases your mind about the whole process. So, if you are to get a procedure in the future with Dr. Rahal, definitely try to find out if the Foxbar Guesthouse is booked or not, it will make your life easier throughout the whole process. Try to book it around your procedure or book your procedure around the days it is available for reservations. I highly recommend you book it for at least like 4-5 days though, due to possible swelling and other issues with the transplant healing process. Don't just think you need to book a day and your good to go the next day, there are several factors that may prolong your stay. Keep in mind you can get daily cleanings at the clinic during your stay. So, I went everyday after my surgery for a morning cleaning, so I didn't have to do the cleaning myself. The clinic did it for me. So, that's why it may be worthwhile to get a 4-5 days booking at least. So, you can just walk to your daily cleanings instead of having to take a taxi or drive there. This place made a lot of things easy on me when I got there and after my procedure. If I ever have to go again for a procedure in the future, i'll be staying here again for sure. Any Other Tips: Remember to bring very comfy clothes to sit through your procedure, have a couple of button up shirts ready as you can easily get in and out of them, unlike tshirts which can harm your grafts when you take them off. Remember to bring sufficient amount of Canadian currency for your stay if you are coming from out of the country. Using Canadian currency will help you reduce the crazy transaction fees on credit cards. It will help you with the local restaurants and other things. You will be ordering food for delivery most likely in the days after your procedure as some of you might not feel comfortable going out with the medical cap that makes you look like a patient or doctor in public. I maybe went out twice and had delivery done for the rest of my stay. Post Op 9/4/2011 I still have some swelling, but am following the post operative instructions carefully. Taking the medications as prescribed, cleaning as I should be, everything. Sleeping at a 45 degree angle still. Post Op 9/5/2011 Swelling has gone down considerably, but I still have some. Still following all post operative instructions and taking the antibiotics as described. Cleaning as directed and everything. I don't really feel any pain or discomfort anymore. It's looking good. Still sleeping at a 45 degree angle. Post Op 9/6/2011 Swelling is pretty much gone. Still following all instructions and taking antibiotics as described. Cleaning as directed and everything. Don't really feel pain, but rather slight very slight irritation in the donor area when I clean though. But I guess with time, that will go away. No longer sleeping at 45 degree angle and finally had a chance to sleep on the bed rather then the recliner. Post Op 9/7/2011 Swelling is gone now. Following all post of instructions. No pain. Rarely any irritation in the donor area. Scabs in recipient zone seem like they are about to fall. Post Op 9/8/2011 Scabs are falling. No irritation at all now and no pain whatsoever. Following post op instructions still. Hills and valleys formed well on recipient zone. Post Op 9/9/2011 Just following all post op instructions. Everything is looking good. Scabs are falling. Post Op 9/10/2011 through 9/14/2011 Still have scabs, some have fallen some areas still have scabs in the front. Everything else is looking good. Still following all post op instructions. I did post photos in this thread around 9/12/2011 showing the scabbing for you all to see. Post Op 9/15/2011 Scabs still around, took a shower today but let the water hit the scabbed area hoping to loosen them up and let them fall. This is the first time I have done it this way after I was told to do so by patient care. I will do this probably until 9/17/2011. I will do this twice a day to loosen them up. Key is not to touch the recipient area yet and to let them fall on their own as I was told. After that, I will get contact patient care to get further instructions. Other then that, everything is looking good. *As of 8/25/11, I do not work for anyone on this forum, all opinions expressed are my own. I am posting this experience out of my own free will for those going through hair loss. I am not being compensated for this nor am I told to post this by anyone at Dr. Rahal's clinic. This is my own way of helping my fellow forum members that are interested in FUE & interested in seeing Dr. Rahal's FUE work because I have had numerous messages between a lot of people regarding that. Now, I feel it is ethical of me to inform and give an honest account with as much detail as possible for those interested. I do have a poll that indicates various options. That poll is my own poll because I work in the business field and I would like to know if such reviews have an impact on consumers, kind of like my own business research study. In the end, this review can either be positive or negative, this will depend on the outcome on my scalp when my results are fully grown. I will be documenting everything. Granted Dr. Rahal has created impressive hairlines on his patients based on his patient photos, however, I will be basing this review on my own scalp. So, this is to assure everyone that there is no bias here and I will carefully analyze my own results, but ask other forum members if they can also give me their total honest opinion each and every step of the process. I don't care if it is with high praise or critical etc., just as long as your honest about it, that's what matters to me the most and that is what helps others. I chose Dr. Rahal because I feel he can achieve what I want, based on research and results. These photos and any photos I post can't be used without my permission, since they show the work Dr. Rahal did on my scalp. Only he has the right to show these as I gave him permission to do so. Dr. Rahal is the only one given my consent to show these photos. It is copyrighted material. There are clinics that take photos and pass them as their own or other hair loss companies that do so. No one else has permission to use these unless I say so. So, if found elsewhere on other websites, companies, etc, other then where I have posted, I will pursue those involved to the highest extent of the law. These photos and any photos I post here, are being shown here by me for opinions/advice/feedback and to help forum members get an idea of how my FUE was. Thanks.*
  14. I researched this clinic more. The guy who does the surgery (Jacques Abrahamian) is actually not a doctor, hes a physicians assistant. In the office, they have a doctor who I do not think takes part in the surgery, but rather plays a "supervisory" role since a PA needs to be working under a supervising doctor by law. However, Jacques seems to have some good experience with surgery as he used to work for Alvi Armani and supposedly was trained by Antonio Armani along with Dr. Baubac. So he left Alvi Armani and spun off this clinic, and here we are. Fun fact, Rahal used to work for Antonio Armani too. It's funny how connected everyone is in the hair transplant community. They seem to offer good rates (especially for california/US) at 6 dollars a graft and the guy seems to know what he's doing. However, for the people who would rather have an MD/DO working on them this might not be the right fit. Please, anyone correct me if I am wrong about any of this. To OP, your results look fantastic and it looks like those areas that were lagging a little have caught up. I would be very happy with your results. Please keep updating us.
  15. I was going to go with Dr. Wong in 2014 before H&W was doing FUE - instead went with Rahal who was already doing FUE at that time. You undoubtedly chose an excellent surgeon - good luck on your journey, should be exciting!
  16. I had my SMP procedure done at Dr. Rahal's clinic in Toronto. The treatment was done by Fiona who is by far the best SMP artist in GTA. I am extremely happy with the results of the procedure. Before my first appointment, i had a consultation session with Aaron who was very helpful and explained me what SMP is and how it is done. On the day of my first treatment, i was a bit nervous but after meeting with Fiona and as the procedure went on I was happy that I had made the right decision of choosing Dr. Rahal's clinic. Prior to my treatment I had read good things about Fiona and she exceeded my expectations with her expertise. She is very knowledgeable and highly trained at what she does. Her biggest positive is that she is very patient and considerate. She will listen to your concerns and work with you to get the best possible results. At the end of the day it all comes down to how experienced your SMP artist is and the entire look of your head is in their hands. I am very fortunate to have found Dr. Rahal's clinic and if anyone is looking to get SMP, Fiona is the best SMP artist out there. Thanks Fiona!
  17. HairLossMentor

    Disappointed…

    Maybe we need to be clear on "budget"... Note: I'm not taking about Turkish doctor's like Dr. Koray for example...he does good work...and is not budget. He can (and does charge) comparable to $5-$6 CAD graft because he can. I'm talking about these $2000 clinics popping up all over Turkey. Not a chance you can get the same result as Wong Rahal, Shapiro, Koray with these hacks. Research a little more I know first hand that "repair cases" make up 10-30% of north american clinics now, mostly fixing botched jobs from Turkey. It's so bad that doctors describe it as a "wave of bad results." Just last week I met a kid who spent $2000 on a budget clinic only to get botched. He has NO options. What can he do? Sue the doc in Turkey? Guys need to know that. A good read... In Turkey’s cutthroat hair-transplant tourism industry, the biggest losers are the patients and Syrian refuges, https://qz.com/954680/in-turkeys-cutthroat-hair-transplant-tourism-industry-the-biggest-losers-are-the-patients-and-syrian-refugees/ 100% agree!
  18. I appreciate the feedback on my thread. I agree, Dr. Rahal is good and genuine, there’s a reason i chose him. The density seems to be pick up so im just letting the play out. A main concern for me at this point however is the design. I will wait obviously until everything is final to see how it looks styled, but i know my face and know its very angular and looks better with recession. I should have pressed more for that, as we all have individual preferences. I am hoping there is some may to add some sort of angling with minimial scarring. However i will say that your posts come off very strong and defensive. It will obviously incite negative emotions so i don’t understand the thinking behind it? Super strong posts like that actually make any clinic look worse imo (not that anything in this thread makes rahal look bad as I’ve mentioned many times, i am super optimistic but for a hopefully small refinement in hairline design) so your intentions thought obviously genuine become shrowded. Just food for thought.
  19. @Aftermath I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion. I respect your opinion. But you made stuff up. This isn't a question of "I think Dr. X's hairlines are more natural than Y's." Both are opinions. But you outright lied. You claimed Dr. Rahal's patients "disappear." You also claimed Dr. Rahal is "not consistent." You made both up... But THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE I have... When a guy gets a hair transplant… at around the 6 month mark… he starts to question everything... Did I make the right decision? Is one side growing faster than the other? He'll start researching the forums, looking for guys also at 6 months… He starts to compare his result to others… Staring in the mirror every day, looking for gaps, thinking back when he bumped his head. ...It's a mind F#CK. It doesn't help when guys like you start feeding them BS… Using the words "failure." It's way too early to judge anything...he needs to hear just that from you and others. If at 9 months... he's not happy... That's a different story… Then our focus needs to turn to finding a solution. Looking at all his options. I'll be one of the first to call Dr. Rahal out. But that should not even be on his mind. You provided no support... Instead you throw jabs..and made up stuff... This only adds fuel to the fire...and only makes the guy feel worse. Look man… The industry is plagued with hair transplant hacks. Ethical doctors are few and far between... And why I won't hesitate to defend Dr. Rahal and others. They actually care for patients. The guy is anxious as it is. Do you really think you are helping? We're all in this together. What this guy needs to hear are the facts... ✓ Dr. Rahal is consistent ✓ it's too early to judge anything ✓ let's see where things are at 9 months ✓ if you have any concerns, Dr. Rahal will take care of you
  20. @Aftermath Dr. Rahal didn't declare himself "The hairline King"... his patients did. But as with anything you should back up claims with proof… So below is the proof. There are thousands of examples on this form alone… I encourage you to use the search function. Here are just a few... "he's called the hairline king" https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51249-dr-rahal-3025-grafts-fut/ "The Hairline king!!! https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/46745-dr-rahal-3185-graft-fut-nw-3-6-months-post-op/ I'm also calling you on your "lacks consistency" and "patients disappear" statement... Dr. Rahal is one of the most consistent doctors in the business...this is a fact...not up for debate. - Search the forms and you'll find thousands of happy patients... And "very few" unhappy patients... He's been doing this for 30+ years... Thousands upon thousands of procedures… I would say that's "consistent"... Wouldn't you? -Even the elite hair transplant surgeons don't bat hundred percent... A small percentage of guys… For whatever reason...will need a touch up. It's the human body… There are factors outside of their control. Don't get a hair transplant unless you can accept that fact. - What's important is… How did the doctor react?… Meaning did he do everything in his/her power to make the patient happy. Elete hair transplant surgeons at Dr. Rahal's level do just that… They have one goal really, make sure you are happy. …The above are just a couple of reasons why I chose Dr. Rahal for my hair transplant. I've been at this for a long time (20+ years)… and I see when posters like you throw little "jabs"… which aren't true… just to get patients/guys all riled up. Making sure you say in the same sentence "it's your opinion" just to cover your tracks… that's telling. There are certain doctors in the industry who are consistent… And care for their patients... few and far between in this industry sadly. Dr. Shapiro, and Dr. Wong are 2 others I have great respect for. Both are consistent and produce amazing results. These doctors are on your side...and move the industry forward. -------------------------------- @bman3082 It's great to see you back man. And awesome to see you asking questions… Sharing your experience. Sorry I had to waste my time on @Aftermath. His goal is to get guys riled up with statements like "failure" or "not consistent." He knows full well it's all BS. Reality is… You went with one of the best... ✓ consistent ✓ natural results ✓ hairline King ✓ ethical ✓ experience It's too early to judge anything... but based off what I'm seeing (40 grafts cm/2) you are right on track. 40 grafts cm/2 is a low density hair transplant... and it's going to look thin. Especially since you have dark hair/pale skin and contrast between hair and scalp is high. It's important you keep your expectations in check. Meaning don't expect a typical Rahal Hairline. You need minimum 50-60+ grafts cm/2 (depending on hair characteristics). Not that you have anything to worry about… Everything indicates (from what I'm seeing) your hair transplant will be a success… But it will look thin. Again, thin does not mean your hair transplant was a failure. It just means you received 40 grafts cm/2... And will need some creative styling to achieve the look you're after. This is just the reality. Anyone who says different is lying. ...But again...way too early to judge anything. It's a waiting game...and you are not even at the 1/2 mark...both in density and coverage. What's key here is that you went with Dr. Rahal...One of the most ethical doctors in the business. So even though 40 grafts cm/2 will look thin… And it sounds like you knew that going into it. Dr. Rahal will most likely increase the density for free… That's just who he is. Good luck and keep us posted... You have nothing to worry about.
  21. I wouldn't mess with the temple points honesty. I can't speak to scaring if you get FUE done to the temples now to redo it. I would think overall it probably will leave marks. But a good consultation with Dr. R would probably shed some light on that. Sometimes perfection is the enemy of the good. Just keep it simple and add some density to the front if you don't get much more growth by month 12. I would say throw some hair clippings in the temples to try different temple density options if you are going for a second pass. So, in retrospect maybe 400 hairs would have been better used in the front than the temples. It's not worth stressing over honestly. You are gong to look great weather you fill them in, laser them off or can safely re-transplant them. Just do whatever makes the most sense. This is also a good thread because in addition to picking a Dr. who has the skills...even within the top tier guys, they all have a different ascetic and eye for what they think works well. So all the good ones get great graft survival....you partly are picking the one who's style you like. And Dr. Rahal does aggressive hairlines. He would be my guy if I was younger and all the males in my family just thinned in the frontal 1/3. I think your hairline is great.....just be careful how you manage it is all I am saying.
  22. Patient came in to restore hairline and front via FUE. Dr. Rahal designed a hairline to fill in the recession and to add density to mid front. The treatment area was 42 cm. The transplanted density done at 43 grafts/cm or at 90 hairs/cm. He now has more styling options with the new transplanted hair. Surgery type FUE Recipient Area treated 42 cm Zones Treated 1 to 3 Grafts Transplanted 1820 grafts Recipient Graft Density 43.3 grafts/cm Recipient Hair Density 90 hairs/cm Graft breakdown Single Hair 394 grafts Two Hair 929 grafts Three Hair 483 grafts Four Hair 14 grafts Total Grafts 1820 Total Hairs 3757 Hairs/Graft 2.1
  23. 46 year old patient came in to restore his receded hairline and front area. He was headed to an isolated forelock with time. Dr. Rahal designed a hairline without dropping the front and adding density and adjusting the lateral temple angles part of the hairline, as well adding grafts behind the forelock. This created more uniformity and thus allows more styling options. Only 2008 grafts were used at a density of 43 grafts per cm. Surgery type: FUE Recipient Area treated: 46 cm Hair Caliber 55 micron Zones Treated 1-4 Grafts Transplanted 2008 grafts Recipient Graft Density 43 grafts/cm Recipient Hair Density 95 hairs/cm Graft breakdown Single Hair 330 grafts Two Hair 1035 grafts Three Hair 578 grafts Four Hair 65 grafts TOTAL GRAFTS 2008 grafts TOTAL HAIRS 4394 hairs HAIRS PER GRAFT 2.18 hairs/graft
  24. no one can give you an honest opinion without photos depicting the degree of your hair loss and state of your donor - but most importantly I think everyone on this forum would advise you against going with Bosley. Don't limit yourself to NY doctors, although Feller & Bloxham are great doctors and by all means go for a consultation. Do some research on this site of other doctors' work. YOu may not be limited to FUT or strip surgery - maybe you are a good candidate for the less invasive procedure of FUE, even if you have to travel. I'm from NJ and I flew to Ottawa (less than 2 hour flight) to have surgery with Dr. Rahal because I wanted FUE and he is a world-renowned surgeon. Good luck to you.
  25. Hi, Some of you may know recognise my username, others maybe not. I used to be reasonably active on this forum when I was researching and planning my first HT. Reasonably active meaning pretty obsessed. I began to experience hair loss at the young age of 16. To condense the last 20 years into as few paragraphs as possible. Experiencing hair loss hugely effected me. I struggled greatly with insecurity and a lack of confidence which led me to searching for a solution. Fortunately, before I made a huge mistake, I stumbled across hair loss forums and spent hours in an attempt to begin to understand the options available to me. After several years of research and countless online and in person consults. I flew from the UK in 2012 to Canada for a FUT with Dr Rahal, with a session just shy of 4000 grafts. I got my confidence back, I became the real me again. I always knew that I would need a second session sometime in the not too distant future and that time isn't too far away. That leads me to today, at 35 years old, I am researching for my second hair transplant. Having been in and around the forums again, I see why I invested so much time into these communities. As a lost young man, insecure and unsure of my options, I learnt so much and was introduced and came into contact with so many great people. People who took their time to advise me of the process and techniques of hair restoration. This is why, now, I really want to be in a position to give back to this and similar forums/communities. To help guys, that are in a similar situation that I was. To be able to serve people who need some advice, speak of my experiences, give an ear to listen and to be able to offer genuine, honest and transparent information. I tell you this because I feel very passionate about helping to advise others regarding their hair loss. I can definitely see a change in the industry and in the market since 2012. For a start, FUT far outweighed FUE 6+ years ago. Or at least that is what the forums patients and clinic results suggested. Now, almost every result is FUE. Things have evolved and results look better than ever. That will certainly be my choice of technique. Also, Turkish and Indian clinics seem to be flooding the market now which wasn't apparent before. Whilst conducting research, I reached out to Dr Bisanaga who I had consulted with previously, and explained to him how I felt being in and around the forums and such great people again, and how I would like to share my experiences and knowledge. Several conversations later, I find myself proud, grateful and honoured to be able to represent his new clinic, due to open in Athens in March, in a role of patient advisor. Dr Bisanga has united with a surgeon, whom I must say is an absolute visionary in this field. Bisanga and Cole Hair Transplant is a luxury hair transplant clinic with competitive prices, led by two of the leading experts in the field of FUE. We offer the complete hair transplant solution at our state of the art clinic in Athens. Two of the world’s top surgeons, Dr. Chris Bisanga, have united to create an experience and service unlike any other. Our objective is to be able to offer the most competitive cost that will exceed any patient’s expectations. I am looking forward to get started, and play my small role in helping individuals to get their hair and confidence back.
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