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  1. i agree with that, it's sad when you see some "doctors" still market FUE as a scarless procedure which is not true, but thanks to the internet and hair loss forums like this ppl know better now. there is nothing called scarless FUE. In my openion, the only scarless procedure available now is Gho's HST regardless if you beleive that happen because of re-growth in the donor area (as gho claims) or just splitting hairs (as gho skeptics think). Hopefully, we'll have dr. Carlos wesley scarless procedure available soon for more options. BTW - having scars on the back of your head might not matter to so many ppl but but it does matter alot for some ppl with high nw levels in the family or those who can't take meds and they know they might end up nw6 or nw7.
  2. Firstly, I've received consent from the patient who initiated this thread to post his pre-operative images... Now, regarding the posts by Formertrackstar: I can understand your frustration from the consultation charge that you described years ago and I will try and help you straighten things out as best I can. I can assure you that, whatever amount you may have been charged for your consultation that was scheduled with Dr. Unger, I did not receive a penny of the consultation fee. During that time period that you described having your consultation I would often provide general information to patients who were waiting to see Dr. Walter Unger rather than having them wait in the lobby. It was simply to streamline their consultation experience, give them more information, and prevent them from being either bored or unnecessarily exposed in a common waiting area. I did this without any payment in return. Checks would be made out to Dr. Unger. In trying to think of reasons why any patient would ever be charged more than the standard $250 consultation fee that Dr. Unger has charged for at least six years now I can only think of a few possibilities: Did you have any additional procedure performed (e.g. cortisone injections, a diagnostic biopsy)? Did you, by chance, make two separate $250 payments (perhaps a $250 prepayment that was overlooked)? I received word that you called our office last week and that our secretary was unable to locate your chart. That is very unusual and makes rectifying everything more challenging. Fortunately, you mentioned in your public blog that you had paid Dr. Unger by check. It would help if you can track down a signed copy of that check so that we can best address this frustrating event. Sincerely, Carlos K. Wesley, M.D.
  3. Bill, I did consult with Dr. Carlos Wesley and Dr. Walter Unger before choosing Dr. Shapiro.. I will send you a private message with my name and other info.. Formertrackstar
  4. To sum this up I just called the office and I asked the receptionist how much Dr. Carlos Wesley charges for a consult.. She said Dr Wesley charges $100.. Dr. Walter Unger charges $250 for a consult.. Dr. Robin Unger $200.. I don't know why they charged me $500 less than 2 years ago.. I asked the receptionist why I was charged $500.. She asked me for my name to look up my file.. She said did you have work done here.. I told her I had just a consultation and had my surgery with another Dr.. She said someone will have to get back to me about this.. I'm just dissapointed I was charged $500 for a 20 minute consultation.. How Davidz got a free Consultation from Dr. Wesley blows my mind away!
  5. Sean, Dr. Rahal said he's willing to do a small test FUE session. I haven't decided about that yet. Even Spex recommended that I get 1000 grafts first to see how it grows, and if all goes well, then go in for a second pass. It would be the more prudent way to go, but I'll pay for the caution with extra time and money. I can definitely see the advantages to your approach - one and done. It's a tough call. Dr. Rahal said I have good density even though my hair is fine. That, plus my age; relatively small degree of hair loss; the lack of advanced balding in my family (that I'm aware of anyway); and, the fact that I'm on propecia make me a good candidate for a densely packed hairline. I'm confident that if Dr. Rahal packs at 60+ fu/cm2 I'll enjoy a natural and effective blend. He said he'd be able to achieve that goal during my consultation, and based on his amazing and consistent results, I believe him. Brain fog or lack of concentration... interesting. The past few years have been the most stressful in my life by far, and the stress has taken a toll. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to determine if finasteride is contributing to those issues beyond the extensive testing I've already undergone. I don't think there's a way for me to know without stopping. Guess I'll take it one day at a time with that decision. I hear what you're saying about taking the plunge. I suppose the next step for me is to meet some HT patients in-person to review their results. It's not easy to do that though. Matt from Dr. Rahal has tried to find FUE patients in my area who are willing to meet, but no dice so far. He did find a strip patient who was willing, however. So, if he still is, then I'll take him up on that. Maybe I should make a post asking if any FUE patients from my area are willing to meet. Obviously, I'd prefer Rahal patients since I'm leaning toward him, but I suppose any FUE patient would be helpful. What do you think? What do you think about Dr. Carlos Wesley's research? Numerous members of the forum who are privy to the details say that the new technology has the potential to be ground breaking re. yield and scarring. If you knew about this research prior to your HT, do you think you would've waited to see what it's all about? Thanks, z
  6. Same thing here, i really wanna frame my face so bad and then if i keep losing my hair (baldness is progressive and unpredictable specially since i will not be taking drugs) i would like to buzz my hair as short as possible like to 0 grade or maximum 1, then my face will be framed. But with fue if you go that short ull still get those white dots. Dr. Wesley mentioned in his website that soon he's coming out with new totally scarless procedure : Scarless Hair Transplantation by Carlos K. Wesley, MD Thing is im not sure when this will be available. HST (gho procedure) is another option where they claim it leaves no scars at all since the donor hair will grow again.. But i cant find enough information and results about HST, since it's new approach that is not followed by anybody other than dr. Gho. Keep us updated with your research. Good luvk
  7. crackershoes, If you get FUE, then you should go in expecting to have white-dot scarring. You may be one of the lucky ones whose scars don't show even shaved bald, but I think they are the exception to the rule. In other words, be pleasantly surprised if you have no visible scarring after your donor heals, but do not count on it. I'd suggest that you ask your doctor to use punches between 0.75mm and 0.9mm whenever possible to help reduce the appearance of scarring. Try to avoid using punches which are 1mm or larger. Of course, sometimes the doctor must use a larger punch in order to give you the best result possible. It really depends on your specific hair characteristics. Dr. Carlos Wesley (a recommended surgeon on this forum) has been conducting some interesting trials with what he calls "scarless surgery." He claims it "may lead to both increased graft survival as well as elimination of any donor area scarring (i.e. less than FUE)." Regarding availablilty, Dr. Wesley says, "we are hoping to carry out a follow-up investigation near the end of this summer with the hope of having the instrument available for more widespread use in late 2013." On his site it says, "the surgical technique patented by Dr. Wesley will be made available to patients worldwide," so any doctors interested in this technology will be able to use it on their patients. I have no idea if this is legit, but if you're very concerned about FUE scarring, it may be prudent to postpone your HT until you know what this technology is. Please see this thread for more info.: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/162173-invitation-participate-hrs-enhancement-investigation.html z
  8. Aside from all the technical and important medical data to be shared about Dr. Wesley, I'd like to put a word in about this physician's particularly impressive follow-up with his patients. I have worked with many doctors over many years, but never yet encountered someone who spends as much time with his patients, really listening and explaining. That alone is an exceptional, if not wholly unique aspect of working with Dr. Wesley. I've never felt rushed or neglected for a moment. After both of my procedures, Carlos checked with me personally on his own initiative. He wanted to make certain that the healing was of the highest quality. I could go on and on about this, but suffice it to say, that any patient of Dr. Wesley is going to receive the highest quality care and the most carefully considered plan for placement of the grafts. This is as good as it gets, in my humble opinion. Anyone unsure of where to begin, a little wary of the whole industry, can gratefully put aside his or her reservations. If several procedures are recommended, trust that the strategy will be the finest, and always in the patient's best interest.
  9. Drs. Unger and Wesley are initiating a thorough investigation on the effect of direct PRP injection on hair caliber and growth. If you are interested in taking part, please read below. The investigation takes place at our 710 Park Avenue office in Manhattan. Platelet rich plasma (PRP) has received much attention in hair restoration surgery (HRS). While investigators have published studies suggesting the benefit of incorporating autologous PRP into surgical treatment, evidence of its clinical effect from direct injection is limited. Furthermore, as not all PRP concentrates investigated are of the same growth factor (GF) composition or platelet concentration, any clinical benefit has not been attributed to a "known" PRP solution. Our current clinical study achieves both: matches patients' own molecular profile of the PRP they receive with any focused, well-documented clinical benefit they may experience. Stated differently, we'll know exactly what we're injecting and we'll know exactly what effect (if any) is has. Although previous investigations have suggested autologous (meaning from your own body) PRP's influence on hair shaft diameter, these studies either involved only a limited number of patients, limited measurement parameters, or were done in vitro. Our office's study sets out to establish a direct correlation between change in hair caliber and density (if any) and patients' platelet concentration and their actual growth factor profile (via an ELISA method performed in association with the Mt. Sinai Medical Center). Despite encouraging data suggesting its benefit on hair, solid scientifically-valid data confirming PRP's efficacy in HRS is sparse. Therefore, patients taking part in our investigation will only be charged the material cost of performing the PRP procedure. In addition to an office visit approximately 2 weeks prior to the procedure for hair measurements, patients will follow up at three additional time points after the procedure: at about 2, 4, and 9 months. We are looking forward to better understanding the true nature of PRP in the treatment of hair loss. If you are interested in learning more about this investigation, please contact Dr. Carlos K. Wesley's office at 212-249-9393 or email his office manager at drwesley.office@gmail.com
  10. Hi aim4hair, What you're really talking about here is completely recreating your frontal third, with a hairline as it might have been in your glory days. The hairline you say you want (the front of the shadow, spanning side to side, with essentially no recession) is actually quite aggressive. Jotronic (Hasson & Wong) has posted here about the surprisingly large numbers of grafts needed for each mm/cm of hairline advancement. If your consulting docs have estimated 2,500 - 3,000 FUE's with a significantly more conservative hairline, those docs might well tell you to double that estimate for the hairline you want. Having said that, there are a number of FUE docs who post results on this board that could probably get you a nice result for your stated objectives with 2,500 - 3,000 grafts, but with a hairline in between the ones drawn in and your shadowed "ideal." Another possibility to consider is Dr. Carlos Wesley, who was recently recommended on this board, who says on his web site that, in addition to strip and FUE, he will soon be offering what he calls "scarless surgery." Based on the vague description, it is supposed to offer the benefits of FUE but with better yield (minimizes transection) and without punctate scars. Scarless Hair Transplantation by Carlos K. Wesley, MD Maybe it will be worth waiting for. PupDaddy
  11. I am ordinarily a very private person but I feel compelled to post this thread for two reasons. The first is the wealth of knowledge and confidence I gained from all of you who have shared your experiences with me. I spent hours and hours combing through the forums and blogs on this site, and learned so much about modern hair restoration and the many outstanding doctors performing these life-changing procedures. The second, and more compelling reason I'm writing, is to express the enormous gratitude I have for Dr. Carlos Wesley and his amazing staff. Approximately 15 years ago, when I was in my early 20's, I had hair restoration surgery with Dr. Leon Waller. At that time, my hairline started to recede and thin, and Dr. Waller performed 2 sessions to thicken it up. (Roughly 1500 grafts in total over 3 years). I was very happy with Dr. Waller and the results. As my hair continued to thin, however, I couldn't afford to keep up with needed procedures, and I was left with just the grafts that Dr. Waller transplanted. It looked ok, I guess, but as the years went by I always said to myself, "someday I will go back and finish what I started." Needless to say, the years went by and I never went back. My confidence worsened and I started to feel helpless. The problem wasn't money! It was the fact that I had waited too long, and my job did not afford me the option to cover-up the effects of the surgery. I felt my colleagues and friends would notice, and I didn't have the courage to go for it. One day this past fall, I sat down at my computer and started researching what the latest procedures were and what doctors were recommended. That's when I found HRN. I spent three hours reading and looking at pictures. Wow...I just might be able to do this! I made a list of the doctors that I wanted to see and immediately made appointments for consultations. I met with Dr. Bernstein first and it did not go as well as I had hoped. Dr. Bernstein told me he couldn't work around my existing grafts and wanted to transplant the majority of them to the crown area first. This was not an option for me. I was concerned about the fact that I would first have to lose my entire hairline before going back months later so he could create a new one. When I expressed my concerns, and aksed if there were other options, he flatly stated, "No." I then called Dr. Feller's office. I was intrigued by what I had read about his "mega-sessions." His staff was very nice and helpful over the phone, but I learned in that conversation that his proceedures all require the patient to shave the entire recepient area. Again this was not an option for me. I couldn't go to work with my head shaved. I went back to the drawing board (i.e. HRN) and conducted more research on which doctors would not require you to shave your head. HRN led me to 2 more physicians, and I immediately made appointments with both - Dr. Robert Dorin and Dr. Carlos Wesley. I made the appointments for the same day, and I met Dr. Wesley first. The consultation went great! Dr. Wesley was an absolute gentleman, and spent a lot of time with me discussing his proceedures and showing me photos to illustrate what he could do to help me. All the confidence I lost when I left Dr. Bernstein was restored and then some! Dr. Wesley felt strongly that he could work with my existing grafts and believed it provided a stong "scaffolding" to work around. He was as excited as I was about the process, and was confident that he could transplant approx. 2000 units in and around my hairline and crown area. I have to say, I was so excited and impressed with Dr. Wesley, I almost didn't even go to see Dr. Dorin. When I left the office, I thought about how important this was to me and how much time I put into my research, so I headed downtown to see Dr. Dorin. Dr. Dorin and his staff were great. They spent a lot of time with me and answered all my questions as well. Dr. Dorin was equally confident that he could work with my existing grafts and shaving would not be necessary. In the end, I decided to go with Dr. Wesley. Anyone who has seen Dr. Wesley's work knows that he is extremely talented and a true professional. But thankfully, that can be said for a number of other doctors recommended here by HRN. I chose Dr. Wesley because he simply made me the most comfortable as a patient. He respected how important this process was to me and he knew that I was consulting other doctors. In fact, he encouraged it! I had a lot of questions and he took the time in person, over the telephone, and through emails to answer all of them. Frankly, he made making my decision very easy. This past February, I had the proceedure done with Dr. Wesley and it went FANTASTIC. When you meet Dr. Wesley, the first thing he will tell you is how lucky he is to work with his talented staff. Well...he's right. Dr. Wesley's assistants made me feel comfortable throughout the day and I was clear to me how well they all work together. The hairline Dr. Wesley created looked amazing and it was easy to see how natural it's going to look in just a few more months. In the weeks that followed, Dr. Wesley and I stayed in touch over the phone and by email, and he continued his phenominal "bedside manner." I'm now a little more than two months out and my hair has already started to grow. I'm happy to say that the healing time went as fast as Dr. Wesley said it would, and more importantly to me, no one could tell that I had anything done. I'm now in my early 40's and have more confidence than I've ever had in my appearance. Dr. Wesley and his staff have changed my life. There is no other way to put it. For those of you who may read this post, and are trying to decide if hair transplant surgery is right for you, do yourself a favor and go see Dr. Wesley. You will never regret it. I just can't tell you how thankful I am to Dr. Wesley and how happy I am to be able to say that "someday," finally came. _____________________________________________________________ Here is the break down of folicular units transplanted: 1s = 303 2s = 1146 F2s = 95 3s = 288 F3s = 165 FFs = 82 -------------- Total 2079 FU
  12. Hello everyone, I am waking up now, in quite a bit of pain, but the pills I took are starting to kick in. I was in Manhattan all day yesterday, for a 10 hour session with Dr. Carlos Wesley. We had planned on a 2200 procedure, but my harvested strip yielded a couple hundred more. My experience with Wesley, was completely different than my experience a year ago with Dr. Ivan Cohen. Cohen did a refined job, and excellent work, but the results I was expecting, from the recommended number of grafts, were quite disappointing. Also, it felt like I was in and out of Cohen's office, like Wham Bam, thank you Ma'am. He harvested the strip quickly, and before I knew it, I was already sewn up with a trichophytic closure, that left a significant scar. I wouldn't go back to him, but then again, I don't think I I will ever need to go back to anyone. Wesley's results should prove to be most satisfactory. Wesley took his time, and at no point did I feel rushed. He encouraged you to bring your own music, so make things more "enjoyable", haha. So as I had my own Ipod playing my playlist, we began the procedure. I was given a fast acting Benzo via IV, which also kept me hydrated, it was a LONG day. After anesthetizing me, he began to excise the strip. He did this in a careful, slow, and meticulous manner. and while he was cauterizing some vessels, and carefully stitching me up, his staff had already began dissecting the strip. I have/had a very dense donor area, and we harvested as much as we could, considering my level of laxity, and the need to minimize scarring. If, and I repeat IF, any future work is required, we will have to harvest via FUE, but most likely will use Wesley's new scarless technique that will be available to patients by the time I would need any further work. We focused exclusively on the frontal third, and I know that people think and have voiced their opinion on Wesley's conservative approach to transplantation, by only going as high as 35 FU by CM2. This is not an issue at all, because he uses larger grafts as opposed to other surgeons "Dense Packing" of far more grafts into a square centimeter, they may be packing 70 or some odd FU's into that area, but they may possible be only 1 and two hair follicular family's. I had MANY 3 and 4 hair ff's put behind the hairline, single hairs were exclusively used in the front of the hairline, to create a soft transition from forehead to scalp. The overall density I hope to achieve will be fantastic. Wesley prefers to wrap the head on the fist nght, so I haven't been able to examine my head in the mirror yet, as I plan on doing later in the day, and taking pictures to document the journey I have just began. I go to Manhattan again this morning, to have the bandage/wrap removed, and have my first shampoo. So far I am more than satisfied with my experience with Wesley, and am optimistic and excited about the results I should receive. It really was a great experience, my younger brother, who remained very patient with me, it was a 10 hour procedure, was able to participate by pushing the clicking counter, as the Dr. made the recipient incisions. He bought us both lunch as well. Based on my experiences with him, both in the clinical trial for his new technique, and my traditional FUT procedure yesterday, I can honestly say that I have full faith in his ability, and recommend him as a surgeon to anyone, without hesitation. I will post photo's later today. Wish me luck on my new journey toward hair restoration. My best to all of you as well, my shiny headed brethren. -Trees
  13. This question comes up a lot on the various hair loss forums. You will generally see the same names over and over. I live in NY, and I consulted with both Dr. Feller (in Great Neck) and Dr. Dorin. I chose Dr. Dorin over Feller and I am very glad I did. Definitely consult with both (and/or Dr. True who works with Dr. Dorin). You might want to add Dr. Carlos Wesley to your list as well. He is in NYC, and is also recommended on this site. Obviously, if you don't mind traveling outside on NY, you have a lot more options, but that is up to you to decide. Dr. Rahal comes to NYC for consults on occasion, so you might want to look into him as well. He and Hasson & Wong are best known for doing larger sessions, so if you have extensive loss, definitely look into doing a consult with them.
  14. Once again, I want to thank everyone for their feedback, it is very reassuring. I do have news though, and I'll start a thread about it. I cancelled my procedure with my initial doctor, and chose Dr. Carlos Wesley instead. I am very excited. It's a larger, more expensive procedure, but at least it's the last one I will ever need.
  15. Happy New Year fellas! As we enter 2012 here are a few hopes (not predictions) for advances in the field of hair restoration. Feel free to add your own to the list. 1) Successful trials with clear photographic evidence from one of the companies investing in follicular regeneration and multiplication, i.e. Histogen, Aderans, Replicel, etc... 2) Dr. Carlos Wesley's highly anticipated techniques to be made public and shown to be a step forward in the evolutionary development of hair transplantation. 3) The HTN forums to be optimized for smart phones and other mobile devices. :cool: 4) Patients who have undergone scalp micro pigmentation (with both long and short hair) to come forward presenting high quality pictures - regardless of the results. 5) Clinical trials detailing the best dosage for Dutasteride in treatment of hair loss - including percentages of men who experience side effects. :confused: 6) Another topical solution brought to market (i.e. Latisse). :cool: 7) Fewer frauds and quacks spamming the forums. :mad: 8) Fewer patients getting surgery with them.
  16. I would recommend True & Dorin. I had mine done with Dr. Dorin, but I'm a man. I have seen lot of his female patient results though... very natural and refined. I would also look into Dr. Carlos Wesley. He works a lot with women too. As for women HT doctors in NYC, the only one I know of is Dr. Robin Unger. She works out of the same clinic as Dr. Wesley. If I understand correctly, she is the daughter of Dr. Walter Unger who is one of the pioneers of the HT industry and among the first to do URFUT. I understand that Dr. Eric Schweiger is supposed to specialize almost exclusively in female hair loss, however, I haven't seen any of his work. He works alongside Dr. Bernstein who is one of the pioneers of the industry and a top notch doc, so I imagine that Dr. Schweiger must be worth looking into. Corvettester
  17. Dr. Wesley, I took the liberty of sharing the details of the upcoming study on our popular Hair Loss Q & A blog. Hopefully, this will help "spread the news" and allow you to attract a statistically significant participant population. Feel free to read the announcement here: Dr. Carlos Wesley Begins Clinical Trials to Investigation Hair Transplant Scar Reduction and Follicular Unit Graft Survival Enhancement
  18. I just wanted to post a short-update. I recently took the advice and decided to speak to a HT doctor in New York as emailing my Doctor was difficult as the response time and also it was a bit difficult to show my condition with photos. I also didn't have access to the same medications. I spoke to few doctors, but Dr. Carlos Wesley's assistant was just so nice and much more helpful than some of the other ppl I spoke to. I went in to see Dr. Wesley and he was just such a thoughtful and incredibly helpful. He educated me about what I would be seeing post-op (I learned a lot) and also informed me that I had an infection and prescribed some antibiotics and wanted to check on my progress. Getting work done abroad is great, but this experience made me realize some of the cons of not having your doctor accessible after your surgery. I will surely need some more work done after this year depending on how successful this procedure is and Dr. Wesley is at the top of my list. I feel like I really dodged a bullet here!
  19. This video depicts a repair session performed on a 58-year-old man who had undergone 8 (eight) previous hair transplant sessions by a different surgeon. He requested a softening of a "pluggy" appearing hairline. Using a total of only 647 FU, coupled with strategic removal of coarse grafts within the hairline, this objective was met. Images of a separate patient taken 10 months post-operatively are also included. They depict a 45-year-old man who underwent a repair session with Dr. Walter Unger using 1973 FU.
  20. Mick Reno, Dr. Dorin and Dr. True really give their patients the time of day that so many other docs don't. Feeling supported before, during and after a procedure is of the utmost importance. I can't emphasize this enough. It's the one variable that any doctor can and should control... I can appreciate why so many stress the importance of not letting location determine your doctor. Really, I get it and I respect it. However, most people don't live in NYC... When you live in NYC, or the tri-state area, I personally can't understand why you would even bother traveling. There are simply too many top quality choices here. Not to mention the all important in-person consultation, as well as the in-person follow up visits. I did online consults with H&W, SMG, Rahal and Path, which were great. However, the impersonal nature of the online consult just didn't sit right with me... call me paranoid. It's a real shame too because I'm sure they all would have given me a good consult, but what can you do? It took me four in person consultations at T&D before I felt comfortable enough to choose a doctor. Again, call me paranoid! lol! As per your other questions... Dr. Dorin once told me that he and Dr. True get extremely high yields from FUE, almost on par with FUT. They're not the only docs who claim as much. So I wouldn't worry about the low yield of FUE too much. However, for a procedure of your magnitude, I personally wouldn't take the FUE route. My reasoning is that if Dorin estimates that you need 1,700 grafts, then you'll probably have to go back for a second pass because T&D are usually on the conservative side. I suspect that if Dorin recommends 1,700 grafts, then H&W will estimate something like 2,500 grafts! In my initial consultation, Dr. Dorin recommended 1,500 grafts for me, H&W recommended 2,500! So the real question for you is whether you want to go conservative or aggressive? I think the answer lies in your questions... You mentioned that you were particularly worried about shock loss, which is a legitimate concern. Thus, if you're so worried about shock loss then you should do everything possible to minimize it. If I understand correctly, the safest way to minimize shock loss is for the scalp (donor and recipient) to experience the least amount of trauma. Therefore, the more conservative procedures experience the least amount of shock loss in general. I took the conservative route and I experienced virtually no shock loss at all. So based on what you've described as your personal situation, goals and values, I'd say go with a conservative doctor. Lastly, sorry to hear about your experience with Bernstein. If you're seeking more in-person consultations, I suggest that you see both Dr. True and Dr. Dorin. While you're at it, take the 6 train up a few more stops and consult with Dr. Carlos Wesley. He'll give you an excellent, in-depth consultation as well... one of the best I had! I also had a good consultation with Dr. Epstein and I hear really good things about Dr. Beehner and Dr. Pawlinga not far upstate. I hope this helps. Good luck. Corvettester
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