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  1. @Houseofwolves the diagnosis you received are ridiculous and scary because one clinic actually includes repairs so I assume fuc**ng up is normal for them. In the UK there`s 1 doctor getting a steady flow of good results who is Dr. Reddy but he`s overpriced for his level or results. The quote you got of 4000 grafts is actually much less than I would expect because looking at your pictures you should have around 125cm2 of area to fill in and rebuilding the frontal hairline requires higher density so I would say you need at least 6000 grafts split into two surgeries. Also, your hair is blond and thin which makes it a challenge for most Doctors. My friend @PT#31 has similar hair to yours and had his surgery aborted by my doctor in Turkey (and he is one of the TOP 3 in Turkey) after 250 grafts were extracted and most were miniaturized. @PT#31 asked for a second opinion to @Dr. Bruno Ferreira and ended up having his HT in May with him with steller results so far (he will be posting soon as I`ve been nagging him to do so). @Rolandas also lives in the UK has similar hair to yours and also went with Dr. BF you should check his thread. You should consider FUT because it would allow you to optimize your donor area thus getting more grafts (your donor area is limited and every graft is precious so chose a proper doctor that won´t waste grafts). Feriduni and Muresanu ate the kings of FUT in Europe and H&W are the Kings of North America. Dr. Muresanu would be a better option for you should you go with the FUT route because he`s more experienced with FUT mega sessions and could probably do the grafts you need in just 1 surgery. If you want to know prices you can check the list I made when I was doing my research.
  2. You’ve got some excellent names, Dr. Bisanga is definitely legit. Just take a look at some of the excellent results on here @MarshallUK probably one of the best results I’ve seen. For Feriduni take a look @Swill fantastic result. Dr. Lorenzo is good, but I’m not sure he’s as involved anymore. Don’t know enough about De Freitas. Lupunzula is solid, but I’d prefer Feriduni and Bisanga. Dr. Cuoto has insane YouTube results, but I haven’t seen a real review yet. Until then, I’ll always recommend tried and true surgeons like Feriduni and Bisanga.
  3. great repair story, happy you found a talented surgeon in Dr. Feriduni
  4. It’s really just a matter of taking the time to google Cinik https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/29839-Horrible-experience-Hair-transplant-disaster-Dr.-Emrah-Cinik-Turkey @Melvin-Moderator also explained to you that it’s well documented how these all inclusive hairmills operate but sadly people want to believe that a hair transplant surgery costing 2990€ will give great results to everyone that pays this ridiculous low price. If you sit next to one of these amazing Doctors like I did with Dr. Rahal and Dr. Pekiner (for 3 whole days) you get to find out a lot about the world of hair transplants and I can tell you Dr. Cinik is only ever discussed by these top Doctors at International Conferences to give an example of a well know Turkish hairmill. If you really want to open your eyes you can go to a elite doctor like Feriduni, Muresanu, Bisanga or Lorenzo and ask them about Cinik Clinic and how mant repair jobs from Turkey they are doing every month. If you go to the Turkish forum you will find that they don’t recommend these all inclusive hairmills and most Turkish don’t go to Keser, HLC or Pekiner due to the high price is costs to have a good Doctor fully devoted to your surgery but instead they go to Esma&Serkan Tetik who are a team of nurses charging 1500€ for all inclusive DHI. They chose to go to these nurses instead of a hairmill like Cinik because they know Cinik surgeries are done by techs and at Esma&Serkin the results real patients are posting are the results they might also be able to achieve. Ofcourse you can call me biased say these are all lies and keep believing in fairy tales of 2000€ all inclusive surgeries with nothing but happy patients.
  5. @LukeMahn Feriduni and Besing are FUE Icons much like Dr. Lorenzo. Dr. Bruno Ferreira is a rising star because he’s currently a Doctor at Dr. Lorenzo clinics where he handles difficult repair jobs and patients with DUPA. He also has his own clinic in Porto where he charges a bit less. So ofcourse like @Melvin-Moderator said you can’t compare a young rising star with FUE Icons like Feriduni, Bisanga or Lorenzo. Maybe in a few more years when Dr. BF has more patients posting their results online.
  6. To be fair, there’s no comparison between Ferreira and Feriduni and Bisanga. Dr. Ferreira is a good young surgeon, but he’s not elite yet like the ladder. Feriduni and Bisanga have dozens of patient reviews on this forum. Always go by real patient reviews. You can consult with them for free using our link. I’ve heard some surgeons charge using their own sites, it’s benefit using our link. https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physician/surgeon-list/BEL/Belgium
  7. Thank you @Melvin-Moderator & @Portugal25 for your responses! I will check Dr. Reddy. However, I just realized that he is charging around 2.5 per Hair NOT per Graft. Could be too much for me. I've heard of Dr. Feriduni and Dr. Bisanga in Belgium but always thought they are super expensive. I will see how much they charge during a consultation. Some prices in this forum by Dr. Bisanga really surprised me positively so maybe there is a way.. The comment about Cosmedica and ASMED was very helpful. I thought I would've been on the safe side with the VIP package. I am quite certain about Dr. Ferreira now. Still waiting for his operation plan after the consultation. Depending on the consultation and price I might also consider Dr. Bisanga or Dr. Feriduni. Is there a big difference between these three when it comes to results, or is it mainly their name and reputation? Thank you!
  8. @LukeMahn I must warn you that Turkey is the world capital for botched hair transplants and you have 2 hairmills on your list ASMED (8 patients/day operated by techs that could have been taxi drivers 2 months before your surgery) and Cosmedica (same thing and even you pay for the VIP package you still only have the Doctor for 1h making the incisions the rest is done by technicians without a medical background). These type lowcost harmills are very common in Turkey and sadly people don’t realize that any clinic advertising all inclusive packages should be avoided. Keser gets good results but he doesn’t use a microscope during surgery and Pekiner also gets greats results but he aborts surgeries if he finds miniaturized hairs (very common with thin blonde hair). The only safe bet in Turkey is HLC Ankara at 2.5€/graft but for that price you are better off going to Dr. Bruno Ferreira for 2.5€/graft at his Porto clinic if you go to Madrid it’s more expensive (Dr. Lorenzo’s clinic). Feriduni is an amazing perfectionist but charges 4.5€/graft and Bisanga is even more expensive 6.05€/graft. Wish you all the best.
  9. Out of all those id favor Reddy, second choice would be Dr. Ferreira, but if you’re in Germany, you’d really do yourself a disservice not checking out Dr. Feriduni and Bisanga in Blegium.
  10. So, it seems you are saying, like Dr.Feriduni is asserting, that with a competent enough surgeon, the greater challenges that come with FUE can be overcome to match FUT yields and "quality". But suppose you persist to the doctor that you only wish for grafts to be extracted from the safe zone as well. Why would the number of lifetime available grafts be less then for FUE vs FUT? Is there more overall surface area damaged for, hypothetically, a 2000 graft FUE vs a 2000 graft FUT? Optically we would say yes, and any look at a post-surgery donor would seem to confirm that. But 2000 grafts, all from the "safe zone", are still 2000 grafts extracted. It would only be contrary, if, individual FUE extraction has more damage to surrounding skin that makes those lifetime donor grafts less likely to be accessible. But if this is true, then I think hair transplant surgeons should make it very clear: By deciding to do FUE, you limit the amount of potential donor for future procedures vs FUT. I don't think this is as explicitly stated or communicated as it should be.
  11. Hi, thank you for your response. Where are you getting your information from for the yield, can you please provide some papers/statistics/studies? Doing some more digging, in Dr.Feriduni's FUE vs FUT pdf , https://www.feriduni.com/images/FUT/FUE_vs_FUT.pdf , he posits: "Quality of the hair follicles/transection percentage Both techniques, on condition that they are carried out correctly, have in principle, a comparable quality level." He also writes later in the article that "By combining FUE and FUT, a much higher yield can be obtained than with each of the treatment methods individually." But how can both of these statements be true? In my opinion, the "quality level", whatever that term means, of FUE would be less if your overall lifetime donor capacity is compromised, and then one would have to weigh the trade-off of less potential grafts available via FUE, vs the unknown of how the linear scar will heal with FUT. Of course it is also unknown how the scars will heal with FUE, but that document and many others state that FUE scarring is less detectable. I have seen bad scars from both procedures so I am not necessarily cheerleading for FUE scarring, so I understand neither is "bulletproof" in that regard. From much of what I have read the consensus seems to be that FUE scarring is more palatable and harder to detect than FUT, particularly with shorter hair cuts. Of course outliers can exist. The best thing a patient can probably do is start with a small procedure, see how the scaring is, and consider the next course of action from there. So, to reiterate, what evidence or studies exist that FUT yield show will be higher than FUE (with the latest technology and methods), and allow for more lifetime grafts? And if so, can we quantify by how much?
  12. Yes, believe me, I did a long research and definitely didnt rush into it. I had frontal consultation with Bisanga, Lupanzula, and now Feriduni. I also actually had frontal consultation with Dr.Maras (and he rejected me, but it was 2 years ago, my hairloss progressed since) I had online assessment with lots of clinics - with Hasson and Wong, which suggested me only FUE. I know them especially for their FUT work, but if I they offer me me only FUE (for some reasons didnt quite understand) than I have better choices which are closer to me (I live in middle east so US and canada is big disadvantage for me), cheaper and even better. Also got online assessments from Keser, Lorenzo, Rahal, Pekiner and maybe 1 or 2 more. About konior, as I said, US is a bit too far for me, and although I would go if I though it is worth the long travel, but from my reviews, those doctors seem like better choice.
  13. @Portugal25 Thanks for the advice, and I know you usually suggest Dr.Freirra, but according to my long, extensive research, I found that those 3 are the best, at least for my case. BF is good but still not as good as De Freitas in my opinion. I understand he is cheaper but as I said my main consideration is quality. Anyway I wanted to ask you, since you usually recommend the spanish doctors (I actually start researching them thanks to you), what do you think about the saying that the spanish doctors show great result because of the type of hair of spaniard people? I can say I looked at a lot of results, but Im not an expert and cant really tell which of them are spanish clients and which are not, and cant even always see some common hair characteristics of all those cases. I have consultation soon with de freitas and just wondering if I can expect the same (or close) to the superb results I see in the various forums (not only the spanish forum). Or should I just go with my 'safe choice' which is Dr.Feriduni for me. A second thing, about Pekiner. Im not sure I understood correctly. When you say he aborts surgeries, do you mean he might abort MID-PROCEDURE? like in the middle of the grafting?? which means that even examination of the hair before procedure doesnt even guarantee he will do the surgery? if this is the case it is horrible, and that means that even frontal consultation wont help. I think we need to be sure of that, can someone tag Pekiner's advisor here to confirm? It's important to understand if the doctor only require frontal consultation, which is completely ok I think, or he can abort mid surgery, which is a total different thing.
  14. One of the surgeons on your list is known for aborting procedures, despite getting a flight and accommodations. An in person consultation in my opinion is a HUGE plus. Dr. Feriduni is an excellent choice, and some members can give you a little more detail about him like @Gasthoerer
  15. You have a good amount of hair, considering your aas use. If you're in the UK, definitely check out Dr. Reddy and Dr. Farjo, I would also suggest taking a look at the Belgian surgeons such as Dr. Bisanga and Dr. Feriduni. You're not a difficult case, donor looks strong, good age to hair loss ratio. Have you stopped using aas? You may be spinning your wheels if you still plan to cycle (no pun inended).
  16. FUE performed on a 31-year old Caucasian male with • NW I-II • Donor density of 84 FU/cm² occipital, 80 FU/cm² parietal, 72 FU/cm² temporal • Hair diameter of ~ 52-64 microns Treatment plan Follicular Unit Extraction to attain an aesthetic reconstruction of the hairline. Performed procedure FUE (December 17, 2017) Follicular Unit Extraction with 1889 FU: * 437 single hair FU * 911 double * 541 triple and quadruple hair FU HGI: 2,1 Parallel incisions in custom-sized blades technique (Cutting Edge blades of 0,75-0,90 mm). Extraction performed with a 0.8 mm FUE punch with CIT Manual Punch Handle. No microscopic preparation of the follicular unit grafts.
  17. At one time Dr. Bhatti was one of the only games in town and was the only affordable option and at that time I thought he was a decent choice but as time went on his lack of skill really came to light and dozens of other HT surgeons started popping up doing far better work with way less experience and they were not spacing their grafts so far apart to look like 1990 hair plugs! He never evolved. Its a game of talent and he lacks talent. Dr. Bhatti doesn't perform large hair transplants. Where are the 5000+ graft patients? Im still waiting for those examples! He is a cheap alternative option to great surgeons like Maras, Lorenzo, Erdogan, Nader, Bisanga, Feriduni, etc..... U can swing on his nutz all u want but the pictures don't lie. There are ZERO examples of Erdogan performing a HT that looks like old style plugs. I can post a dozen or more examples of Bhatti and his plug like grafts. Ur his "Promoter" and I get it but the fact is his best work is average at best. Here is another example I found on page 11. I went to page 10 before. The "Mini-plug" look isn't appealing to ANYONE! U've been making up excuses for his poor work for years. It hasn't gotten any better and it never will. I have zero interest in this guy so I have no interest in debating how bad he is with u but I thought others should know there are far better options out there. Good luck and take care.
  18. @Eden83 you should be looking at around 3500 grafts to rebuild the hairline and fill in the thinning crown. I do advise you to avoid YouTube, Instagram videos and clinic websites when choosing a clinic and focus on real patient results thread on forums like HRN to see the doctors that are getting consistently great results. If you are looking for options close to you I would advise Dr. Arika at Eugenix in India (1.8€/graft) or Dr. Laorwong in Thailand (2.6€/graft). If you are willing to travel further then look at Dr. Bruno Ferreira in Portugal (2.5€/graft). He also works with Dr. Lorenzo (one of the best in the world) at his clinic in Madrid. Your budget of 15k should also be enough to also consider some of the best in world like Dr. Feriduni (4 to 5€/graft) in Belgium and Dr. Muresanu (4,5€/graft) in Switzerland. You should ask the Doctors for a diagnosis and if you can’t decide between 2 doctors then a consultation in person is always the best way to go (I never could do that and had to decide based on the diagnosis I received from my photos and videos). Wish you all the best!
  19. @Coady Dr. Reddy is the in the UK and he is really good! The only issue is that he charges the same as some of the best in the world like Feriduni, Muresanu, Lorenzo, Couto. What I think most HRN members say when talking about UK HT doctors is that the UK is too expensive for the quality offered (which doesn’t mean there aren’t doctors getting great results).
  20. @jimbobby the only option in the UK is Dr. Reddy but you have doctors getting better results at a lower price outside of the UK. Look into Dr. Bruno Ferreira (2.5€/graft) in Portugal and Dr. Ximena Villa (2.5€/graft) in Madrid. They both worked with the icon Dr. Lorenzo so they have the same technique which is DHI the only difference being that Dr Bruno does 1 patient per day and Dr. Ximena does 2 patients per day. You can check Dr. Ximena dozens of great results at the Spanish forum recuperartupelo. Dr. Bruno is still working at Dr. Lorenzo clinic so he’s not promoting his own clinic in Porto where he charges half the price of Lorenzo’s clinic (2.5€/graft instead of 5€) but you do have 1 result thread here at HRN from @Rolandas It will be difficult for you to find doctors with this highly skilled technique and experience charging this price. If you have extensive hairloss you should consider FUT and request a diagnosis to Feriduni and Hattingen who are the best in Europe for FUT (they also do FUE) but more expensive than Ximena and Bruno. If you are on a budget and don’t mind a flight to India then Dr. Arika at Eugenix (1.8€/graft w/tax) is getting great results and they are known as the best for FUE mega sessions. Wish you all the best with your research.
  21. If you’re in belgium, definitely consult with Dr. Bisanga, Feriduni, Devroye just to name a few.
  22. @TrixGlendevon anwers below: 1) Because he can get more grafts with FUE+BHT than just FUT. How can a doctor that didn’t do surgery on me by my favorite? The Doctor I chose for my second surgery is my favorite for FUE+BHT but I also recommend Dr. Bruno Ferreira because he operates on patients with DUPA at Dr Lorenzo clinic so he used to diffuse and miniaturized hairs like this member seems to have. 2) Never heard that diffuse thinning is only suitable for FUT where did you get this information? 3) Ofcourse he could only do BHT if his beard is suitable and if it’s not he should indeed consider FUT and consult with Feriduni, Hattingen, H&W or Rahal. 4) @Melvin-Moderator told me Eugenix is considered the best for FUE mega sessions and from looking at several high norwood results I do agree with him. I have explained why I suggest FUE+BHT and why I recommended Eugenix and Bruno Ferreira so please explain why you state that I shouldn’t recommend FUE+BHT because patients with diffuse thinning are only suitable for FUT.
  23. He chose the perfect time to get a hair transplant. Great results btw, Dr. Feriduni is one of the best.
  24. FUE’s performed on a 47-year old Caucasian male with • NW NW VI, Class N • Donor density of 92 FU/cmÇ occipital, 88 FU/cmÇ parietal, 76 FU/cmÇ temporal • Hair diameter of ~61-67 microns Treatment plan 1st Follicular Unit Extraction to attain an aesthetic reconstruction of the hairline and midhead region. 2nd Follicular Unit Extraction recently performed to rethicken the crown area. Performed procedures 1st FUE (July 22, 2019) - hairline Follicular Unit Extraction with 4756 FU: * 429 single hair FU * 2107 double hair FU * 2064 triple hair FU * 156 quadruple hair FU HGI: 2,41 Parallel incisions in custom-sized blades technique (Cutting Edge blades of 0,75-1,0 mm). Extraction performed by WAW-system with a 0.90 mm serrated trumpet punch. 2nd FUE (March 9, 2020) - crown area Follicular Unit Extraction with 3862 FU: * 200 single hair FU * 1794 double hair FU * 1757 triple hair FU * 111 quadruple hair FU HGI: 2,46 Parallel incisions in custom-sized blades technique (Cutting Edge blades of 0,75-1,0 mm). Extraction performed by WAW-system with a 0.85 mm serrated trumpet punch. No microscopic preparation of the follicular unit grafts. An update on the crown area will follow.
  25. Dr. Couto is one of the best the world along with Dr. Konior but they both have a 2 year wait list. Eugenix (1.8€ to 3.6€/graft for surgeries with the doctor present) is getting great results with high norwood patients and they can do 7000 grafts in one surgery unlike other Doctors you were advised. Stay clear from ASMED because their results have not been good and several forum members are complaining of serious unethical treatment post surgery. A patient wrote here at HRN that Asmed told him he would have to speak with their lawyers if he wanted to discuss any further about his overharvesting. I don’t understand how people can recommend this clinic. Other great options for FUE are Dr. Bruno Ferreira (2.5€/graft) and HLC Ankara (2.7€/graft and doing high amounts of beard grafts in one day). If you want to do FUT then talk to Feriduni, Hasson&Wong and Rahal.
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