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  1. KO it's not very hard to find out. I don't speak Italian but if you google the two terms together you can find them mentioned in some Italian hairloss forums. As I don't know what they're saying maybe they're just suggesting he was treated by Dr. Hasson but I doubt that's what they're saying. I'm almost positive he went to Dr. Hasson for about 4700 FU if I remember correctly. I believe he also had a procedure with Dr. Rosati before which was not great which isn't surprising since he also did Berlusconi and we all know how that one turned out. Antonio's hair quality reminds me of Shuffle's. Shuffle's is another mega Dr. Hasson result. Edit: I see someone mentioned the same as the before expect that the procedure was for 4477 FU. Lorenzo is friends with Antonio and Jotronic knows who Antonio is and the football scandals in Italy. So yeah I'd say he went to Dr. Hasson alright.
  2. This patient presented today 16 months status post 1450 ultra refined follicular unit micrografts to restore his frontal hairline/temporal recessions. Shown are a series of pre-op and 16 month post-op photos. Dr. Brad Limmer
  3. Todays presented case shows the preop, four month post op and 7 1/2 month post op photos following ultra follicular unit micro grafting to treat a weak mid frontal hairline and miniaturization within the temporal recessions. A standard elliptical excision and trichophytic closure was used to harvest upwards of 900 ultra refinded follicular unit grafts. These grafts were then placed in recipient sites that range in size from 0.5-0.8mm….filling the pronounced central defect/hairloss in the mid frontal hairline as well as the temporal recessions. While the 7 1/2 month post op photos show the most dramatic change, the four month post op photos show something often not seen by many who view these posts. Noted in the 4 month post op photo set is the initial regrowth. You can see very clearly her baby fine initial growth growing in nicely at about 1+ cm in length. This baby fine initial growth is often missed by patients, then over the following 3+ month these hairs have not only grown longer, but have acquired greater diameter/mass. Dr. Brad Limmer
  4. Hello Everyone, I'm 33 and i still have hair all over, even though the hair on top of the skull have been falling quite a bit in the last 5-6 years, and the one left are getting thiner and thiner (it is really see-through now). For the first time i am considering HT (still investigating, i may still decide go for the shaved look from now on) I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and i browsed this forum to figure out if i could find a good surgeon for an HT down here. From what i could find here, here is the info i got on HT in Buenos Aires from the forum : . Dr. Gustavo Chachir sucks and he won't see me - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/154689-dr-gustavo-chachir-buenos-aires-argentina.html Other than that, i heard from or found on the internet about Buenos Aires HT clinics : . Alvi Armani hair restoration clinic founded by Dr. Antonio Armani, - (Link removed by moderator - See Terms of Service) [/url] - sponsor of HairSite (hairSite really promotes only this one in Argentina, but i am unsure on how much HairSite can be trusted) - (Link removed by moderator) (Links removed by moderator) There are probably many more, but well, those stand out with a decent-looking website, and somewhat clear explanations. However, i have no idea if any of them are actually good, and this is where i need help. If by any chance you had experienced with one of those doctors or clinics, good or bad, please comment! Thanks for the help and congrats for the website and the community.
  5. I was quite impressed on some of the before and afters on his site. (link removed due to promotional content) have any of you ever heard of him? any input would be appreciated thanks
  6. Hey All, I'm new to the forum but not new to hair loss . I'm your typical male pattern baldness crown/vortex area. So far my search for a clinic has brought me to see Dr.Limmer in San Antonio this past weekend. I'm wondering where all the other highly respected doctors are in my area. Does anyone know of any other clinics in the Houston or surrounding area? Thanks
  7. Surely you will have to sell you car for an operation with him personally, check this out... Its from his clinic website.. For a 1-Day Procedure: Dr. Antonio Armani$15 / graftAlvi Armani Doctors$7 / graft *The maximum number of grafts for a 1-day procedure is 3,500 based on individual assessment. VIP Service: The VIP rate is $30/graft in all cases. For our VIP patients, we only perform one procedure per day, and provide 1 year of medical/cosmetic supplies in addition to many other VIP services. Executive Session: In our Executive Session, we offer a non-shaving session of 1,500 grafts, with a minimum cost of $30/graft. Repair Cases: A Repair Case involves corrective work for patients who have had a previous unsuccessful hair replacement procedure at another center. The cost for all repair cases is $30/graft. Can you believe that??? OVERPRICED!!!
  8. Does anyone know if Dr. Limmer in San Antonio finances?
  9. Has anyone had any experience with Dr. Limmer? From everything Ive researched he seems excellent! I live in Ark and I love San Antonio so it makes since? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
  10. Earlier this month I performed five female transplant cases in a row. While for years women have been a part of my transplant practice, what these five successive cases goes to show is something many transplant surgeons are seeing…more women pursuing transplantation as an option to address problems with their hair! What I am seeing in my own practice is that women represent approximately forty percent of my consults, but only about twenty percent of my transplants. While both of these numbers will increase, unfortunately for women many of them are not good candidates for transplantation. So while women more often than men might not be candidates, I encourage women to seek help, find out their diagnosis/options and even if surgery is not the answer, maybe medical therapy can be started and used to improve their situation. The most common diagnosis women present for transplantation is androgenetic alopecia (just like men), but some of the other common diagnosis are…traction alopecia from prior hair styles, scars/hairloss following facial plastic surgery, lichen planopilaris (LPP) and being born with their father’s hairline (high with deep temporal recessions). Of the five women I mentioned earlier, they all fell into one of these categories. The case presented below is that of a woman who happen to finally be back in San Antonio nearly two years after hair transplant and initiation of medical management (July 30, 2008). It just so happened that she followed up the week I had the five female transplant cases and I felt she represented what women can expect from combine surgical and medical management of anrdogenetic alopecia. Her story began on July 10, 2008 when she presented in consultation. She noted that her hair loss progressed slowly throughout much of her adult life and while she had become quite adept at covering up her loss through various hairstyles over the last couple of years, even with the most creative styling, she could no longer hide her problem. She was tearful as she described all she has gone through in dealing with this and how much it would mean to her if she could do something, even in a limited fashion, to improve her situation. After full exam and work up it was concluded she has classic andro-genetic female pattern ludwigs grade II-III. The good news for her was that she had good donor availability and while her hairline had weakened a bit was in pretty good shape along the very leading 5-6mm edge. All her options were discussed from accepting what she had, wearing a full-partial system, medical therapy alone or in combination with transplantation. She chose the latter and on July 30, 2008 she moved forward with transplantation combined with Rogaine Foam and oral Finasteride. As she was from out of town we kept track only through a series of phone calls checking her progress and encouraging her to maintain her full medical program. Finally, nearly 2 years post op she was able to make it back to San Antonio and proudly showed us her results and relate to me how life changing all this has been and how much happier she is. Below will be presented her pre operative/post operative photos and while her nearly 1600 grafts made a tremendous difference in her frontal forelock, I cannot stress enough how much better quality of hair she has across her entire scalp as a result of her two years commitment to medical management. Her case was fairly straight forward. Seventeen squared centimeters of donor was harvested from the left/mid-post scalp. Closure was performed in a layered fashion and we were able to generate just under 1600 grafts from the donor which had a f.u. density of 94. The good news for her was that a majority of her grafts contained 2-3 hairs, compared to many women with advanced loss whose grafts are often more 1-2 hair f.u. Basically, she was getting more numbers and volume of her hair per grafts than some women…which in turn makes her a better candidate and more cosmetically successful case. These grafts were all placed in recipient sites ranging in size from 0.6-0.8 mm and all located in her frontal zone behind her relatively intact hairline. In addition to the results obtained through her transplant, she feels the volume and quality of her hair continues to improve on medical therapy, even though she is already two years into her medical regiment. From my clinical experience many women over age fifty seem to take a little longer to see response to the initiation of medical management and continue to slowly improve over a few years. For those who were at the Brazilian hair meeting, I think all would agree that Dr. Russell Knudsen gave a great lecture on the similarities/differences between women and men regarding the science behind why androgenetic alopecia occurs. Also, he showed how multiple different medications impact different aspects of the hairloss equation in women, concluding that multiple medications should be used to address hairloss in women like androgen antagonists, DHT blockers, antagen phase prolonging medications and OCPs. Brad Limmer, MD/jac *photos are posted side by side, befores and afters*
  11. Dr. Tony Mangubat is INCOMPETENT!!!! Aka Dr. E. Antonio Mangubat is INCOMPETENT!!! I am a former patient of Dr. Tony Mangubat ('M')(E. Antonio Mangubat, South Center Cosmetic Surgery, http://www.southcentercosmetic.com ) and whatever you do, DO NOT become M's patient. As I describe below, he is INCOMPETENT!! Before M was his currently advertised 'breast implants, liposuction, tummy tuck' specialist, he was for years a hair transplant doctor. Although my HORRIBLE experience as a hair transplant patient of M may not provide you with direct advice about the procedure you are considering, I urge you to read my story, or at least the articles in the links below before even considering M as your doctor. As a hair transplant doctor, M did a number of 'Brandy-style scalp reductions' surgeries on me (named after Dominic Brandy, http://www.brandymd.com/) that left me SCARRED AND DISFIGURED!!!! D. Brandy was SUED for performing these procedures. Follow these links for news articles with the facts about this: http://community.seattletimes....9960915&slug=2349352 http://www.deseretnews.com/art...SH-WITH-THE-LAW.html Also follow this link below and scroll down for proof that Mangubat performed the procedures pioneered by Dominic Brandy: http://regrowth.com/hairloss-c.../whs_1996_review.cfm From the regrowth website: 'a Brandy-style scalp lift with preservation of the occipital neurovascular bundle by Dr. Tony Mangubat, with assistance from Dr. Carlos Puig;' Mangubat claims that the Brandy-scalp reduction procedures were 'the state of the art 15 years ago' when he performed such procedures but then WHY WAS DR. DOMINIC BRANDY SUED AND PAID DAMANGES for performing these procedures in 1996'?!!!! Yes, Brandy was sued in 1996, not 2010, so in the 1990s there procedures were STATE of the SH*T and only the work of TOTALLY INCOMPETENT DOCTORS like MANGUBAT!!!! At any initial consult w/ M, at a minimum, you should ask M: 1. Although may not be related to your procedure, ask M if he has he performed scalp reduction surgeries (called 'Brandy scalp reduction procedures' after Dominic Brandy). If he doesn't lie, the answer will be yes, because he has done this procedure on numerous victims, including me. 2. Ask him to show you before and after pictures of the 'Brandy' procedures. If he dismisses your request (says that has nothing to do with your procedure) and refuses to show photos, ask yourself why is M refusing to show his own work? Is he hiding something?? Although your procedure may be very different, you will get a very good idea of M's HORRIBLE and INCOMPETENT work by seeing these pics. As I've described below, M butchered my scalp and left me with a horrible, thick horseshoe-shaped scar ?? inch from 1 temple to the crown and back to the other temple with no hair growing there. Beware that pics may have hair combed over the scars, and this is nothing less than TOTALLY MISLEADING and a lie b/c it conceals the true result, i.e. SCARS all over the head! With respect to pics, very Important: The before/after photos that some cosmetic surgeons show you are VERY MISLEADING because: - Some doctors only show their best top 10% patients, and don't show you the average result or, as in my case, the horrible results. - The photos are typically low resolution, so e.g for hair transplants, they may not clearly show the hairline or may be in low light, thereby concealing the scars and the thin density and unnatural look of the hair transplants. Here's the rest of my story: I was in my 20s when I signed up as M's patient. He suggested that I get 3-4 transplant sessions and 1-2 Scalp reduction surgeries (called 'Brandy' scalp reduction procedures). The worst decision I ever made in my life was to follow M's advice and have these procedures done. M left me SCARRED and DISFIGURED!!!! My result was a horseshoe shaped scar ?? inch thick and 6-8 inches long on each side from each temple to the crown!!!! I've had to undergo numerous reconstructive surgeries, spending over $20K, to reduce the scars. As I mentioned above, Dominic Brandy was SUED for performing such scalp reduction surgeries: ------ Sunday, September 15, 1996 - Page updated at 12:00 AM Suit: Bad Hair Transplant Caused Suicide Attempt By Jeffrey Bair AP PITTSBURGH - Michael Potkul says he was told he would have a scar no wider than the stroke of a pen if he underwent surgery to rearrange his scalp to get a full head of hair. Instead, he claims, he ended up with scars from his temples to his neck and depression that drove him to attempt suicide. And he's still losing his hair. Potkul, 33, took off his hairpiece yesterday to show the marks to a jury - including three men with thinning hair - that is hearing his $1.3 million malpractice lawsuit against Dr. Dominic A. Brandy. Potkul said Brandy sugar-coated the risks of surgery and operated repeatedly despite the deterioration of his scalp. Brandy claims Potkul signed a consent form that mentioned scarring, then abandoned treatment before a final, essential operation. "If you do enough cases, you're going to have patients here and there who will voice their displeasure in a courtroom," said Jerry Brandy, the doctor's brother and executive director of his practice. Potkul said he contacted Dominic Brandy six years ago after seeing him on a talk show. Potkul's hair was beginning to thin, and his brothers were being teased about going bald. "Everything depends on looks. You can turn on the TV at night and see 30 infomercials about everything you can do to your body - diet videos, all that stuff. I wanted to look like everybody else. I wanted to look good," Potkul said during a break in the trial in Allegheny County Court. Brandy performed five operations to stretch hairy skin from the back of Potkul's head to the top and to transfer grafts of hairy scalp to cover bald spots, Potkul said. The sixth operation would have been another scalp graft. But Potkul said he was so depressed by the results of the first five operations that he shot himself in the chest in 1992. The bullet missed his heart and went out his back. Brandy severed key arteries as he tried to stretch Potkul's scalp, stunting hair growth instead of encouraging it, said Dr. Ernest Manders, Potkul's new plastic surgeon. He said he is reluctant to alter Potkul's scalp any more because the skin could die. Manders said that, as an associate editor of a medical journal, he once rejected an article submitted by Brandy on scalp reconstruction because the methods were "potentially harmful" and had "significant limitations." Brandy has been in practice for 15 years and runs an ad campaign for his services in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. "Dominic Brandy is a salesman who just happens to have a medical degree," Potkul said. "He really needs somebody to come along and wake him up to what he is doing and make him clean up his act." Copyright © 1996 Seattle Times Company, All Rights Reserved. ----- I did a few quick searches and found M in his own words praising the 'benefits' of scalp reduction surgery (see below). This kind of surgery (the Brandy procedure) is what left me totally scarred and disfigured!! Not to mention that Brandy was SUED for doing these procedures!! So much for the 'benefits'!! M's own words speak volumes on his incompetence and the fact that he's clueless and oblivious to the harm he's done to many like me. Here are the links: http://www.regrowth.com/hairlo...998/ashrs_monday.cfm The Rise and Fall of Scalp Flaps, Reductions and Lifts [Tony Mangubat of Seattle, WA is one of the leading doctors performing scalp reductions. "I've noticed in the Seattle area over the last two years a fall in the area of scalp reductions... I was a little disappointed in it, and I was almost upset until I started looking at it in a more objective way... the answer to this question becomes very clear." Dr.Mangubat outlined his feelings on reductions and why he thinks the number of doctors performing the procedure has decreased. "We want fast results, we want a home run.. Managed care has caused an influx of newcomers. The fact is I make more income off of hair transplants than scalp lifting, so from a financial point of view maybe it's not such a bad idea..." The fall has been precipitated by an influx of newcomers due to doctors who are earning less due to managed care and HMOs. "These are all victims of our new managed care society," said Dr. Mangubat. Doctors coming in have been resistent to learning reductions, flaps, and lifts due to the steeper learning curve, greater risks, and marketing against reductions. The number of doctors performing are remaining steady, but the number of doctors coming into transplants are growing, so the overall percentage are lower.] If I could do it over again, I would have NEVER trusted M and NEVER let M lay a hand on me. Instead, I would have just accepted my hairloss and not permitted M to butcher my head!! I would have shaved my head while we wait for a cure to hairloss. Unfortunately, M left me with huge scars on my head and so I can't just shave my head. Instead I'm forced to wear concealers to hide the ugly scars on my head. Anyone considering M DOES NOT have to go through what I've been through. So I strongly recommend that YOU STAY AWAY FROM TONY MANGUBAT (aka E. ANTONIO MANGUBAT)!!!!
  12. Any comments on Dr. Limmer in San Antonio, Texas? Good or bad....
  13. Hello everyone, I am new to this forum and I just wanted to share my experience with everyone here. I was a NW6 patient before I went in for my first FUE procedure with Dr. Antonio Armani. I have gone for 3 sessions totaling to 6500 FUE grafts. Dr. Armani has changed my life in so many ways and I am very happy with how everything turned out. Here's few pictures just to show the transformation of before/after.
  14. Yes that is correct..My first procedure was with Dr. Sara Armani and my 2nd and 3rd were with Dr. Antonio Armani and they're both excellent doctors, Sorry for the error.
  15. Balboa, It's not totally a lost cause. There is another option. Dr. Armani is a member of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario. He went to medical school in Toronto and this is where he was licensed to first practice medicine, which subsequently gave him license to practice medicine in the United States. If you had your surgery in Toronto and feel you have a legitimate complaint against Dr. Antonio Alvi Armani, you can file a complaint with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario. Check out this web site for more information. http://www.cpso.on.ca/policies...default.aspx?id=1772 You will indeed need supporting statements from other doctors, as you mentioned, such as a dermatologist or another hair transplant physician.
  16. There are lots of doctors in Texas who are full time hair transplant surgeons, its the primary function of their practice, always seek them before a general plastic surgeon who does tummy tucks one day and strip surgery the next as the exclusively hair oriented physician will be more experienced. Depending where you live I am not uncomfortable having you consult with the following three Texas doctors as i think they are ethical and all share the same board certifications and consumer advocacy vetting by IAHRS, a consumer watchdog organization that is very particular, some doctors that are on this forum aren't even in it and this forum is particular as well. In Houston Dr. Berardo Arocha has an MHR fellowship background and a private practice in River Oaks and Dallas. He's definitely the most expensive quality physician in Texas but the other two are not inferior to him. Your other options are to drive to Austin to meet Dr. Dan McGrath who is a hair transplant patient himself , he too was a surgeon at MHR in San Francisco and Newport Beach for many years, he is more conservative in his graft estimates than Arocha and a dollar less per graft. If you chose to go to San Antonio you'll find Dr.Limmer who is by far the most tenured hair restoration surgeon in the state, at least that hasn't garnered a bad reputation, he's conservative in his approach but very experienced and a slightly less than even McGrath. So depending what you need it may be more budget conscious to go to Austin or San Antonio, I recommend you consult with all three, i have, still haven't made up my mind but those are the best three options in the state.
  17. Hey Fellow HTers, I recently had my second HT at the Limmer clinic in San Antonio, Tx. I will first start out by stating that I have nothing but good things to say about Dr. Lehr who performed my first HT. Lehr no longer performs HTs and now dedicates his profession to his dermatology practice. I would have gone back to Lehr in a heartbeat if he had not retired from the business. He always told me I was on a two HT plan (he would have also been less expensive ??“ he gave second timers a BIG discount). That being said, I am thrilled at having gone to see Dr. Brad Limmer and have him and his staff place roughly 1300 FUs in the front 1/4 to 1/3 of my scalp. I had previously had roughly 1800 FUs placed in the front 1/3 to 1/2 of my scalp, and I'm expecting great results from this new addition. From my previous HT, I was already pleased in many lights with my hairline (roughly now a NW2 -- i.e. mature hairline) and the seeming thickness of my hair, but some other lights were brutal and certain angles allowed a direct sight to my scalp. I also had two areas near my temples that I was not thrilled with. This procedure was more concentrated on thickening the front and those 'trouble' areas. Note: I was a NW3 and now have totaled more than 3000 FUs between both procedures. I think that is standard. I also personally believe that I benefit from my hairs individually being above average in thickness. I chose Dr. Limmer for a number of reasons. A few would be: he was the first that Dr. Lehr said he would have used if he had needed a HT (the first question I asked Lehr a few years ago before ever having my first HT), he uses similar techniques to Dr. Lehr (stick and place -- I had great results last time, so I trust the method), I know someone who had one from him and looks fantastic, and the Limmer clinic has a stellar reputation. Price was a consideration, but not much of one. Dr. Limmer has an infectious attitude and is very upbeat about life and he exudes confidence (not cocky though) in his work. His entire staff was great and they share that confidence. Despite my affections for Lehr, my experience with Limmer was so much better and I can't really explain why. The night before I was nervous and I barely slept. Even though I had already had a HT before, it is just a little nerve wracking to wait for the day to come. I arrived around 7:00 a.m., filled out the remaining paper work (I live out of town and had previously only corresponded via phone and email). Limmer then took me into a room, discussed my continued use of propecia (and possibly adding rogaine in the future if needed), took some pictures, discussed exactly what I wanted, and then I was given valium because I had expressed feeling nervous about the extraction from the donor area. (as a side note there was a guy there who was having a second day portion of his HT, he told me he had already had the front part done, and I was amazed that I couldn't tell anything had been done the day before --- I didn't get a real good look, nor did I peer a long time, but it does go to show how much more I pay attention to my own scalp than to other's scalps and it put me at ease that I wouldn't look terrible the next week). I was then taken into 'room four' and one of the techs started to prep me for the donor extraction. I never went to sleep (I have a strong resistance to chemicals) but the valium did take the edge off enough that I wasn't totally freaking out. Dr. Limmer shaved the area around my old scar and a little around toward my left ear (so my overall scar is a little longer now, but this extraction is pretty squarely between both ears ??“ slightly left ??“ my old scar goes a bit more over my right ear ??“ this extraction incorporated the lion share of the pre-existing scar between my ears). I was told what was happening at every stage. Someone, I can't remember if Limmer or a tech, vacuumed the area to clear it from clipped hairs and then I was slowly anesthetized (anesthetize was a tech). Many people describe HTs as though they are like dental visits, but I find dental needles in my mouth far more painful. The needles used on the back of my scalp are truly 'just a little pin prick' more akin to a flu shot. You really only feel a few pricks throughout the entire process, possibly one 'whoa, that's a shot' experience. But really, if given the choice between a big shot in the mouth versus in the back of the head, I'll take back of the head any day. I was left for a few minutes to let the medicines take effect, and then Dr. Limmer returned to start the extraction. I think I said this after my last HT, but I'll say it again, there is something creepy and unnerving about the knowledge that someone is cutting a large strip of flesh from the back of your head (roughly 13cm by 1.2 cm if I remember correctly what Dr. Limmer said). Although all I could feel was pressure, hear some noises, and then ultimately recognize the workings of stitches being applied to my head, I'm empathetic and sympathetic, and I just don't like that part. That being said, that portion of the procedure was done very quickly, without any pain whatsoever, and with Limmer's positive attitude just filling the room. Coming from someone who hates that part of the procedure, Limmer did a fantastic job. The techs began immediately to dissect and cut away the individual units. NOTE: I don't think this is weird, but some of you will: Limmer did not count my FUs, I paid a flat rate for a 1250 procedure and he cut for 1300+. I asked him how he counted and he said he measured multiple areas in my donor area, then multiplied the average FU/cm2 by the extraction area and gave additional room for error of 2% loss from the extraction and shot for the 1300+ number to ensure a 1250 procedure. Like many HTers, I feel quite sure I got more than what I paid for. If I have the typical 90-100 cm2 in my donor area, then I probably might have even received more than 1400 FUs. (1.2cm x 13cm x 90 = 1404). Dr. Limmer outlined the hairline (not much work there because I stayed within the previous area). But he wanted to make sure that is what I wanted. After I looked in the mirror, I gave the thumbs up and away the planting went. Anna, a tech who has more than 10+ years experience, came in and started 'sticking and placing.' I won't go into the merits of this technique (I know it's debated around here), but I will say that the Limmers seem to have perfected it. I can't explain why, but I could just tell (and afterwards I was affirmed in my belief by the cleanliness and lack of trauma to my scalp) that the Limmer clinic is far superior at this than even Lehr (who I have great respect for ??“ Lehr was handpicked by Norwood to run his clinic when Norwood retired). There is something to be said for taking a technique that works, and mastering it. The Limmer clinic has done just that IMHO. This was an all day process. I watched movies, took a break for lunch, and then stayed until roughly 4:00 p.m. having the FUs placed. Dr. Limmer was constantly checking on me, joking with me, and making sure whether I had any questions and that I was comfortable. On a few occasions I would explain that I was 'starting to feel' the process. Anna would anesthetize immediately and continue her work. Once after lunch, I started to ache in my donor area. One of the techs re-anesthetized that area. Dr. Limmer also re-anesthetized the area again right before I left. I did feel one of those needles pretty good, but the sting lasted only a few seconds. Toward the end I was getting a bit restless. I didn't ask for anymore valium because it really doesn't have much of an effect on me. One of the things I was most impressed with (see photos) is how clean I was when I left the clinic. I was given saline solution, post-op directions, pain pills, swelling pills, surgical caps, and Dr. Limmer arranged for a cab to take me back to my hotel room. Limmer knew I would be in town the next day and invited me back to get checked on. When I got back to my hotel, I marveled at the cleanliness of the work and what a pleasant experience I had had --- we're talking surgery as a pleasant experience? I used a saline-mist bottle on the hour, every hour (I don't sleep well), to keep the area clean. Limmer recommended sleeping on my back. I did. I had an old towel that I placed on my pillow that had some blood-like ooze on it after the first night. Limmer also prescribes twice-daily Neosporin applications to the donor area for the first week (probably contributed to the ooze). Even though on pain pills, the donor area did hurt more than I remember from my previous HT and I didn't sleep well that night. (my girlfriend says I complained about the donor area last time though). I took Limmer up on his offer to return the next day. He cleaned me again, but I was pretty clean, not much work there. He also re-upped my pain medication (I'm a big baby, O.K., I admit it!) I went back to my hotel and rested. I finally got good sleep the second night. NOTE: I have severe insomnia, so not sleeping I mostly attribute to my own nature and not the procedure. Day three to four I did have some swelling in the face; probably more noticeable to me than to others. The donor area is still tight and sleeping at night irritates it but each day it gets better. Tylenol is my friend. I have only a handful of scabs. I count seven. That is how clean my head is. I had a great experience and will try to keep up on my blog and posts. I'm five days after now and am amazed that I could probably pull off no one knowing without the hat. But I will keep it on when I go out for the first ten days. Limmer told me after ten days it would be hard to tell I had work done. I think he was dead on. I really can't tell if I'm still a bit pink or only have the shadow from the stubble created by the implants. I'll bet the only issue I have at day ten will be the stubble, but I have enough hair from my previous HT to cover the majority of that. If someone is that interested in my hair, I'm about to get laid, paid, or something. ' This forum was the most helpful thing to me when I first started considering a HT and I just want to give back. Kudos to Pat for creating this place and kudos to Dr. Brad Limmer for an outstanding experience. Random thoughts: I don't think my first HT was fully appreciable until 18 months. Recently, I had a friend tell me he was envious of my hair (he doesn't know about my previous HT -- how jealous will he be in the future?). By having this second HT, I have just guaranteed myself extra time this year. The year will creep by now that I'm waiting for the hair to grow. I'd better get a lot done! Toad p.s. I'm having a bit of a problem creating my weblog, so its unvailing may take a bit. (I'm not all that computer savvy).
  18. I had the honor to visit the world renowned Limmer clinic in San Antonio, Texas on Tuesday, March 20th of 2007. In many respects the Limmer clinic is the birth place of "follicular unit grafting" since it was Dr. Bobby Limmer and his staff who first began using microscopes to visualize and trim naturally occurring follicular units into follicular unit grafts. Dr. Bobby Limmer's significant contributions to the refinement and advancement of follicular unit hair transplantation are well documented, including in the "History of Hair Transplantation" section of the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center. Dr. Bobby Limmer shared his techniques and findings with his peers and was a persuasive advocate for the follicular unit procedure. For his part in pioneering this excellent surgical procedure Dr. Bobby Limmer was awarded the "Platinum Follicle Award" by the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery in 1996. Over 14 years ago Dr. Bobby Limmer was joined by his son Dr. Brad Limmer who also has a strong background in dermatology. By joining his father's hair transplant practice Brad was able to study under his renowned father and learn what would later become accepted as the "Gold Standard" in hair transplantation. He also learned his father's emphasis upon honest and upfront education with all patients. The Limmer clinic has continued to refine their follicular unit technique and today create minimally invasive incisions that are as small as 0.7 mm for the one hair grafts. These tiny incisions enable them to place more grafts closer together when appropriate for the patient. Patients now experience more rapid healing. The Limmer clinic also using a technique referred to as "stick and place" in which the grafts are inserted immediately after the incision is made. Since the fresh incision is still dilated and has not begun to contract it is easier for the staff to place tiny grafts into very tiny incisions. In general I was impressed by how refined, clean and minimally invasive the incisions and graft placements were. They also typically remove a donor strip that is 1.2 cm wide and do not like to exceed this width because they feel it increases the risks of a visible donor scar. They also use internal and external sutures that are dissolvable. They feel that the internal sutures remove much of the tension from the external skin layer closure and thus minimize any potential scarring. Dr. Bobby Limmer was not at the clinic on the day of my visit. But I was impressed by Brad Limmer and their very experienced staff.
  19. I am happy that I have found this site, and I have made contact with Dr. Limmer in San Antonio. I am in Oklahoma City and there are no recommended doctors in Oklahoma. Dr Limmer was very informative, and I was impressed with his knowledge, and the time he spent talking to me. My expectations are under control, I don't expect to have hair like Rod Blagojevich. I see a lot of people are going overseas, but I am reluctant, with the current atmosphere, to travel abroad.
  20. I've been thinking about getting a HT for a number of years and shortly before the new year decided to stop thinking about it and to get it done. Of course like everyone, my goal is to find the best doctor and to locate the best technology out there. With that in mind, I immediately became interested in the FUE procedure. I mean, not having a scar running from ear to ear would be awesome. Over the next couple weeks I narrowed down my doctor pick to Dr. Antonio Armani. My reason for selecting Dr. Armani was quite simple: He does extremelly high graft numbers in one session, his hairlines look nice, and he's has no ethics making it possible to put my hairline where ever I wanted. That might sound strange but those were my reasons. I contacted the Toronto office for a quote and a few days later received a reply from one of Dr. Armani's 'yes men'... his name was Chad Cooper. To sum Chad up, one only has to think of a yes-man who will say absolutely what ever you want to hear so he can make the sale. Chad told me that I need 3560 grafts and the price for Dr. Antonio Armani himself would be CAD$7 or CAD$5 per graft for an Armani doctor. Before making a decision I asked for some close up photos of patients who had the FUE procedure as the photos that were on his website were horrible. I mean they are nice photos, but there aren't any close ups or ones with good lighting so they in a sense are useless to help with the decision whether to do it or not. I mean, I want to see exactly what I'm buying... Well, to my shock, Chad emails me a bunch of photos of various guys, including himself, Leonardo DiCaprio and Ewan McGregor. At first I thought... wow.. Leonardo DiCaprio had a hair transplant.. I would have never guessed .. and he used Armani... very cool I thought... but at the same time I was in misbelief. I mean I've worked in marketing for 20 years and I just couldn't believe that an A-list actor would agree to tell the public that he wasn't perfect. It just didn't make sense so I did a Google search. Of course, I couldn't find any HT info for Leonardo or Ewan McGregor, but, what I did find out shocked me: It turns out that ALL the photos Chad emailed me were STRIP patients !!!!! This made me worry because I was wondering what the motive for emailing me ONLY strip patients was when I directly requested ONLY FUE patient photos. I mean, Dr. Armani had been doing FUE for more than a number of years and should have hundreds of patient photos available. The proof is in the evidence ( a few of the photos that were emailed to me are on this site): http://www.hairsite8.com/htdocs/alvi/main.htm number 1): he's the main guy in the armani ads (STRIP patient 3329 grafts) number 6): I think this made me extra sick. This guy is on the Armani videos and yes it does say he had both Strip and FUE however check out his picture after ONLY the Strip session. He looks exactly how he does in the video.. I mean where did Armani put the FUE grafts and what's the FUE relevance? number 11): they passed him off as a FUE patient as well, however it says STRIP Grafts 1900... Okay at this point I was really concerned. I started to really look at the before and after photos of FUE patients and one thing I noticed was FUE results was like gambling... odds better than roulette but worse than craps. For example: Check out this guy's temple area which hasn't at all had much growth - I would say less than 20% if that and it's at the 7.5 months: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kWLu...h/7.5+months+006.jpg Here's another one with way less than 50% growth at 6 months: (you can totally see the two hairlines - looks horrible) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4AMW...th+hair+pics+009.jpg I mean sure the above will grown in a bit more but if you compare the above results with Strip results there is simply no comparison. Check out this FUE blog, I actually feel sorry for the guy: http://superpanda-fue.blogspot.com/ Now my number one concern was the follicle survivor rate if I did the FUE. I asked what the follicle survivor rate was. Chad (the yes-man) replied that it was between 97-98% or better. I asked what the worst case scenario was and he wouldn't reply. Instead he said that all the patients are happy with their results and that he couldn't comment further. Okay, you are thinking what I'm thinking right.. .run.. well, that's exactly what I did. Now at this point I felt quite a bit of stress as I really didn't want a scar from ear to ear. I mean there is no other way to put it... no matter how good of a scar it's still a scar and it will run ear to ear. For this reason I continued my research... One thing that kind of baffled me at first was the FUE naming conventions. I mean most of the doctors that do the FUE procedure have different naming conventions. For example, FUE, FIT, CIT, FUE IM, FUEE, and FUE2 (second power) etc.. Well, I'm here to inform you that FUE is FUE... all these doctors use their own naming convention to appear that they are doing something that no other doctor can do... it's just marketing and it reminds me when I was a kid... every time I went on a date and got lucky, my friends would ask and I'd say, "yah, I john-ed her"... so instead of saying "I fuc#ed her" I made it sound special by putting my name in the sentence and adding "ed"... I was technically marketing my image like a dumb kid would. Continuing with my research regarding FUE. After looking at doctors like Feller, Cole, Woods, Ilter etc.. I came to the conclusion that all of them no matter what they call their procedures, are doing the exact same procedure. Sure they might use different size punches, they might all say different prayers, but, all in all what they are doing is the same. Of course there is a person's natural ability that may change the outcome or provide a more consistent outcome but again,all in all, it's just FUE... At this point I don't think any doctors opinion about FUE is very accurate. Okay, this only leaves Dr. Rassman and his enhanced FUE procedure which according to his website appears like a completely different procedure: http://www.newhair.com/fue2/ Well, I'm about to save you a lot of time with regards to Dr. Rassman and the procedure he refers to as FUE to the power of 2. You know after wasting my time going to his office I can tell you he made a big mistake with his naming convension. He should have put the 2 in front and change the spelling to: "TOO FEW"... yup, "too few" refering to the survival rate. Too few will survive. I have to be honest that Dr. Rassman does appears on paper to be a top quality "all ethics" kind of doctor. So needless to say I was completely shocked after meeting the snake oil seller. This is a pretty strong statement, however there is no mistake after he wasted my time with his bait and switch routine. Starting at the beginning - I arrived at Dr. Rassman's office just before 2pm. My appointment was for 2pm. He ran late seeing me at 2:35pm... I actually didn't have a problem with this because I was lost in a book I was reading.. When I meet Dr. Rassman he introduced himself. I then explained that I was really interested in finding out the follicule survival rate for the new FUE2 procedure. Dr. Rassman said word for word, "Compared to the strip procedure it's not very good. A lot of doctors really make the FUE procedure out to be what it's not.".. Well, you can say I was shocked... thinking that he was talking about the old FUE procedure I reminded him that I was talking about the new FUE2 procedure he explained online. Dr. Rassman then said, "Our website doesn't explain all, I'm sorry about that"... he went on: "what don't you like about the strip procedure? Are you worried about the scar? Well, you don't have to worry because we do what you call a trichophytic closure. It isn't like it was years ago. Nowadays you can hardly even see the scar.. I wouldn't worry about it at all". I can't remember the exact words but he continue to say "trichophytic closure" about 10 times in the next two sentences like it was some sort of magic pill... simply he was trying to sell me a strip procedure and trying to close the deal by selling me this magical closure which will leave me virtually scarless. Personally I was completely disgusted by the lack of professionalism using the bait and switch on me. We talked about the FUE procedure for a good solid 15 minutes and 100% of the stuff Dr. Rassman said is completely contrary to what he says on his marketing website. Online he makes it sound like this new FUE2 procedure is the best thing since slice bread. You know, it's not like he looked at my donor area or anything.. instead this was just his opinion on the FUE(FUE2) procedure. My problem with this was, why on earth would Dr. Rassman promote FUE2 on his website - have me come through his door, only to tell me how horrible the results are and try to sell me a strip procedure? mmm... bait and switch marketing - to make money$$$ You know, everything is marketing... if you don't believe me take a good look online and you will see guys that were sold doll hair plugs back in the day. I mean why on earth would anyone with fair logic decide to have doll plugs... well, it was all marketing and selfish doctors. Just so we are clear about my view on the FUE procedure as I'm not saying it's a bad decision. It's just that we need to understand the results are no where near a survival rate of 97-98%: I think what I found out is, a select few doctors seem to maintain a 80% survival rate (if that) but not any better. I think that's closer to the truth. One thing is, it's not at all consistant with patients - some unlucky ones seem to just have horrible results.... In closing, I would like everyone to be cautions of these forums. The majority of stuff you read has either been posted by the doctors or their staff. These proffession posters sole purpose is to neutralize any negative comment and make sure the doctors that they work for are left in a favoriable light. Sure a lot of their comments appear to be neutral and sometimes I believe that they are, however, in the end they do control your opinion of what you are going to decide upon. It's scary that so much is controlled... Sorry for the long post... had to get this off my chest...
  21. I am one of the posters that doesn't post anymore but I do come visit once in a while. Dr. Brad Limmer in San Antonio did my 3000 grafs and he did an outstanding job. I plan on going back for 1500 more but will have to wait a little while, this stock market has hit me pretty hard and don't want to take anything out right now. The 1500 will go in my crown, my frontal looks great and is long enough to actually cover the back pretty good. To be fair, Dr. Brad did put in some grafs on the crown but I just want some more. I have actually been complimented on my frontal curls and asked what has happened, I just tell everyone I decided to let my hair grow out, always seems to work. John
  22. I live in Austin and just went to see 1 of the top physicians in the country on nerve entrapment down in Houston. It's only 2 hours out of the way to see the best. I can tell you that my experience with Dr. Limmer in San Antonio was great. Make the drive! Hey Greg, Have you created a weblog? I'd like to see some pics from a Dr. Limmer patient, as I've never seen anything from those guys in Texas.
  23. I live in Austin and just went to see 1 of the top physicians in the country on nerve entrapment down in Houston. It's only 2 hours out of the way to see the best. I can tell you that my experience with Dr. Limmer in San Antonio was great. Make the drive!
  24. I went to Hair Club in Houston and had a conversation with Dr. Robert Mcclellan. He said he has been in this business for many many years. Very nice guy and down to earth. He gave me alot of information. He is using the FUT technique and said FUE is the old way and some doctors do it not because it is better but because that is what they got used to do. It is the old technique takes more time and more expensive because of the labor. He looked at my scalp and hair and said I got enough elasticity at back of the skull and hair density is pretty high. He said the maximum he does per session is 2400 grafts and it will cost me $12K. He also said the maximum I have as donor is 6000 grafts. One thing he said that I never thought of before and I want to share with you guys. He said the recovery ratio of hair from donor is very important and they use microscopes to do it and their recovery ratio is like 30% whereas in other places they get lower recovery ratios. I think the technicians' skill in taking the hair out of donored skin is extremely important. I have an appointment with Dr Limmer in San Antonio on April 15. People say he uses FUE, the old style, but he is very reputable and if you want to book an appointment for surgery, they will give you a date 6 months ahead. He must be that good I think. I will be emailing my photos to Hasson and Wong and see how much they want and what they offer. So what do you guys think of what I learned? Please comment.
  25. To everyone, I'm new to the boards and would just like to give everyone a big HELLO. We're all in this together. I've been browsing and reading. It's great to have a place to come with people in the almost same boat as me. I've always had a high hairline.. um in middle school I remember seeing other kids "square" type hairlines and this one kid said yours isn't like mine when I asked him which cut he got(random story). But I didn't notice it. Then in highschool at about 16 years I got a shorter haircut and thats when it all started. This "friend" was like dude your going bald man. And I saw how high my hairline was. And since then its been moving back. Not too fast but hell I had to deal with people calling me "Robocop" in highschool man.. the locker rooms where people would come by and just pull my hairline back to laugh. And here I am 21, every time I get all dressed up and comb my hair, the first thing I see people look at is my high ass hairline when I meet them. I see my girlfriend looking at it. I know it bothers her cause she will only post certain angle/pics on her myspace of us where it looks like I got a normal hairline. Hell it bothers me greatly. So my question to you gentleman is what is my best option? I'm very scared of taking drugs for side effects. This whole thing has me so down. I mean I'm 21.. some people go bald at like THIRTY and it bothers them. I've never gotten to feel confident in my hairline even in my prime years and comb my hair back. It sucks 4x as worse. I could have dealed with it at 30+ easily man.. easily. I was honestly thinking of a HT by Dr. Limmer in San Antonio texas (I live south of houston, if you know any other reputable surgeons) when I was like 23-24 and then one later on to fill in the back( none has gone from the crown but my hair on top feels thinner than sides). If you're still reading, I really appreciate you taking your time to read and help another human being who you don't know. This is so mentally defeating at 21.
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