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  1. #1 is no longer the case. It used to be true. #2 is nonsense. #3 seems to me to be unlikely. The strip area used is normally far above the neck, and many docs say only the inch above and below the strip take the stretching. I think where you are getting tripped up is that laxity is the same thing as stretching the skin that is not cut out. Nonsense. FUT stretches the skin above/below the scar, so that hair density decreases.
  2. I'd be devastated if that's true.. thank you for your honest feedback. I do want to add though that the team that did the FUE is a specialist 'hair' team that only does hair transplants and related surgeries, if that helps. They have many different teams there.
  3. That is doubtless true, but that begs the question why does FUT/FUE combo gives more than FUE alone. Melvin says it is conventional wisdom, but I can't figure out a viable logic.
  4. I'm 31 years old and have been worried about my hair since 2011. Specifically, my receding hairline. I began taking pictures and eventually got on finasteride in August 2015, and minoxidil foam in September 2016. Choosing a Doctor I feel that I could've spent forever on this step and still not have been confident in my choice. I looked at tons of patient results form tons of doctors, read all the comments, etc. In the end, I wanted a reputable doctor, and ideally someone I didn't have to fly to. I was also pretty set on getting an FUE over FUT. Well, as luck has it, there are some reputable doctors in NYC, which is just an hour from me without traffic, that perform FUE procedures. I only had two consultations; one with Dr. Dorin in-person, one with Dr. Wesley virtually. Dr. Dorin was first. He was honest with me, which I appreciated. As in, he didn't promise unrealistic expectations. He said that with one procedure, it would likely still lack the density that one desires. Apparently many of his patients opt to come in for a second procedure (or more) to add that. It seems that Dr. Dorin does lean conservative with his graft counts compared to others. In some of the example pictures I'd seen from him, the hairlines were wildly curvy. While the one he drew on me also had intentional imperfections, it was a lot more subtle than some of the others I had seen from him. In the end, he estimated 1,200 grafts for me, and claimed that I'd pretty much need an FUE procedure due to my hair characteristics. It cost $175 which could be used toward the procedure. Dr. Wesley was next. This was a virtual consultation with a dated webcam, so of course it wasn't ideal circumstances. But there's a reason for that, and it's that an in-person consultation with him was $400. Granted this could also be used toward the procedure, but I just thought this was too much. For whatever reason, virtual was free, so I went with that. And it went alright. Viewing my webcam, he estimated 1,600 - 1,800 grafts. I did like the idea of potential higher density than the comparatively low estimate of 1,200 from Dr. Dorin. Prior to this, we had actually communicated briefly by email where he estimated 2,000. But there were a few things that turned me off. In contrast to Dr. Dorin, it felt like he was trying to promise me the world. He really talked himself up, mentioning that I wouldn't believe how many celebrities he's worked on, that his practice is the best in the business, etc. Whether or not that's all true, it rubbed me the wrong way. I also didn't like that he noticeably looked down on the fact that I chose to do a virtual consultation instead of in-person, citing that it wasn't a big deal since the $400 could be used toward the procedure. And it felt to me that he really wanted to end the call quickly. And he mentioned holistic medicine which is kind of a trigger word for me. There were others I considered, but they either were too logistically inconvenient, or too unknown, or only seemed to dabble in FUE. What made me end up going with Dr. Dorin was his honesty, reputation, experience, and lower price (although still prohibitively expensive. It's NYC). I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to throw away the initial $175 I had spend on the consultation. I know that's a terrible thing to let impact this decision. My worries with Dr. Dorin: will I be satisfied with the density after one procedure? Is his signature hairline going to end up looking more realistic in the end? The Procedure For better or worse, I ended up going with Dr. Dorin. I managed to get an appointment which was around 2 months out, for September 3rd 2021. After a lot of questions back and forth, to which Peter was quick to respond, the day finally came. My friend drove me early in the morning, and I went in at 7:15 for my 7:30 appointment. There was some waiting involved throughout the day, but kind of your typical doctor experience. I met a nurse first who gave me an orientation. Later on, Dr. Dorin arrived and came in to draw out the planned hairline again, trying to be close to the original consultation. Again, I kind of liked it and trusted that the unevenness would end up looking more natural. I tried to nitpick since it was my last chance, to make sure it wasn't lopsided. He called me on my criticalness and said if I was worried about such miniscule details then I may not end up being happy with a transplant in general, as there will always be imperfections. He did alter it ever so slightly and agreed that if I was going to say something, now would be the time. He measured it and looked at it from a few angles, including in a mirror over his shoulder. I basically went with what he had originally drew out, and Peter took some pictures. Hopefully that was the right move. Then Rita came in and gave me some valium and anesthetized the whole back and sides of my head. This was the most painful part, but tolerable, and she was great. I believe the harvesting stared around 10am, when Dr. Dorin and Catherine came in the room. I pretty much couldn't feel a thing after all the anesthesia, so that wasn't bad. But having to wear a mask for most of it was a bit uncomfortable, as well as some of the positions, mostly face down and on my side. Only way I knew it was happening was that I could hear the whirr of whatever the gadget he was using was, and the force it pushing into my head. But no pain. When I started to feel it, I said something and he applied more anesthesia. The harvesting was done with some breaks. A little over 600 the first time. Then a little over 600 again. As he was finishing with the second part, he said it looked like he could get some more if needed, but we would wait to hear the final tally. The final tally was over 1,300, over 100 more than the estimate. But I told him to use his judgment and feel free to take more if he felt it would improve my results. I was hoping that he would since I had been concerned all along that 1,200 was too low. He did take more. Final Tally = 386 Single / 915 Double / 126 Triple / 1,427 total I was happy that the number grew, although I also new it meant I would have to pay for each of those additional grafts. Quite a bit of money. Nonetheless, this step was done. I had my lunch, which I brought, and then it was onto the next step. Rita came back to numb the hairline. Again, a bit painful but tolerable. Dr. Dorin came in again with Catherine to make 1,427 incisions. Counting to 100 over and over. Again, I felt nothing, just heard the sound of my flesh being stabbed. Or I assume that's what the sound was. This was actually the quickest part, maybe an hour. The implantations into these incisions was done by a few people, but not Dr. Dorin. I believe it was Catherine, Kim, and Alex. I was upright and kind of watching Netflix on the TV for this part, but also nearly falling asleep. Because again I felt nothing and it took a while. It seemed that Dr. Dorin rarely came in to check on their progress, although I can't say for sure. And with that, it was over. Finished around 5pm. I went to the bathroom, looked at myself in the mirror, and got really depressed. My hairline, the density, even the way they trimmed down my hair. I thought I had made a mistake. But I had to go and have Peter take some more pictures. He said it looked really clean and I'd heal fast. Dr. Dorin saw the final results for the first time and said it looks great. Still, I felt really depressed in this moment while I waited for my friend to arrive and drive me home. I was given a baseball cap to wear out, and didn't want to be seen by anyone. I just wanted to be home. Afterward and Current After I got home, I looked at it some more, took some pictures, and I regained some optimism. That's where I am now. Still unsure if I made a mistake. Still hoping it will, at the very least, look a lot better than it did before the procedure, but hoping for incredible results. I've been spraying it every hour with some ATP solution they gave me, as directed. I slept the first night elevated in my reclining couch with an airplane pillow. I was given some gauze cover which I laid on top of my airplane pillow. Good thing, because whenever I woke up, the back of my head was wet with sweat or oozing blood or both. Probably both since it was quite wet but light red. And that's what I will continue for the next few nights. Tonight I'm supposed to dip a sponge in a shampoo/water mixture and lightly pat it over my head.
  5. Hello my fellow Hair Restoration Network patrons (and the man, the myth, the legend Melvin!) , yesterday I had my procedure done with Dr. Luis Nader of Nader Medical in Reynoso, MX. I had a fantastic experience and feel I owe it to this community to share/answer questions about it. Backstory- I first noticed my hairline had changed for the worse when I entered basic training in 2009 at the age of 23, and had my head buzzed down. I started using rogaine, saw palmetto, and nizoral shampoo after I got out of basic a few months later. I believe these 3 slowed my hairloss down to a turtles pace, and at times halted it. I have a mixed bag or hairlines on both sides of my family. I maintained a NW 1.5-2 my entire 30's, which I considered a massive win. I have a background in college and a brief professional career in a sport which resulted in 8 surgeries and pain that I still feel today at 37. I started using Kratom at around 34 for pain management. From everything I had read it was a safe alternative to opiods, etc. I continued to take the Kratom for a little over 2 years before multiple side effects became impossible to ignore ( that's a real rabbit hole ), but my biggest issue was it seemed to speed up my hairloss from a very slow pace to warp speed. I weened myself off said substance and my hairloss stabilized immediately without any further intervention (even thickening up a little). However my hairline and crown took a real beating during this time and a true recovery did not seem to be in the cards without surgical intervention. At this point I went from a NW 2.5 to a NW 3 V which just didn't look good on me anymore. I used some fibers to fill the crown for awhile, but I didnt wan't to have to do this for the rest of my life, and eventually ended up buzzing it down to a 2, then 1, then 0. I look "ok" with it buzzed down, but I tried to live with it for a year and was never happy with it. I did not take finasteride during this period because of what I had read/horror stories on reddit etc, and because I was starting a family in my 30's and wanted to maintain fertility and not have any possible birth defects. Selecting a Surgeon- I like many of you probably know more about hair transplants, the science, and hairloss than I care to admit. I have been researching transplants for 10 years, and consider it one of the subjects that I can speak on with a great deal of knowledge. I seriously enquired with Dr. Konior, Dr. Panine, and Restore Hair Clinic (within an easy driving distance, and 2/3 are very well respected as many of you know). The prices were pretty staggering, and while I could have financially made it work, it would have hurt. I have a career where I make good money, not great. $20k plus is a hard pill to swallow for many of us. From here I started researching on this website, as well as a couple reddit forums. It was through these that I came across Surgery tourism and began investigating Turkey and Mexico. Turkey was out quickly when I broke down the logistics of cost, flight, time, vacation needed off work, etc. I then narrowed down my prospects to HMR (the cortez brothers), Neopal, Dr. Sara Salas, and Nader Medical. I had serious consultations with HMR, Sara, and Nader. I could never get anyone from Neopal to call me back after repeated emails and calls. I found Dr. Sara salas really delightful when we spoke, but her prices were pretty steep for what I was looking for (also endorsed and trained under dr. Wrassman). The Cortez brothers communicated well and the price was what I was thinking, but I didn't love all the hairline photos I saw of their work. By no means am I slamming them, I think they do great work, and am seeing more and more people sharing positive experiences they have had there. Finally I contacted Nader Medical and it felt right almost immediately. The receptionist/liason Brenda is a saint. She answered my endless questions promptly and was extremely professional. Every single person online that has shared their experience with Dr. Nader came away raving about him. They all spoke of how much he genuinely cared, how this was a passion of his, not all about the money, and the results always looked great. I found all of this to be true as well. Dr. Nader was warm, gentle, extremely knowledgeable, and had a very calming presence about him. After many emails, and calls I decided to book my appointment. The actual surgery and details- Flew into McAllen, which is right across the border from Reynoso, MX, where I stayed at the Days Inn by Wyndham. This hotel is a mile and half from the airport, and was a very basic, yet clean hotel room. Some might be a big snobbish to it (it's no 4/5 star), but through the military and sports I have lived/stayed in some absolute shit holes. This was no shit hole. I flew in wednesday afternoon, had the surgery thursday, and am currently in between flights on my way home on friday. Nader arranged for a very friendly guy named Aaron to pick me up from my hotel, take me across the border, and return me home after the surgery. Aaron has a fascinating life story, and was a treat to talk to on the way there and back. I have read all about the cartel and violence in Mexico, but never once did I feel unsafe. I have previously lived in southern Texas, and traveled extensively around the border, as well as been in various parts of mexico, which possibly made me feel more comfortable than someone without those experiences. I arrived at Nader Medical around 8:30 am, filled out a little paperwork, then proceeded to sit down with Dr. Nader and talk all about my hairloss journey, life, what I wanted, etc. It was a wonderful convo and lasted well over an hour. I wanted a conservative hairline that I could age into well, and my crown addressed. (I started finasteride a month prior to this with zero side effects). We drew multiple hairlines before we got it right. I might add that the facility was very clean, and had a very professional staff of maybe 5 techs. My zones were drawn, head shaved down further, and on to the extraction table for a few hours. They injected lidocaine into my donor area repeatedly, which feels like minor pinches, nothing to worry about. My head was completely numb, and they went to work. After that I was served lunch, with the options being tacos or a chicken salad. I chose the salad and it was very good. From here we moved onto placing the grafts while I watched netflix. I think it took around 3 hours, but I wasn't really keeping track of time, just relaxing and enjoying some netflix. I felt zero pain during this part of my procedure as well. From there I was cleaned up by the tech's, followed by some questions for the Dr, and talk of after care. I literally have zero complaints about my whole experience. I could not have been happier with Dr. Nader, his staff, and his work. I got a picture with the Dr, gave him a hug, and thanked him for everything. He gave me his personal number and we will continue to remain in contact. For those that care, Dr. Nader attended school in the US and Mexico, and speaks perfect english. The driver then took me across the boarder and back to my hotel (zero issues). I purchased a neck pillow prior to this surgery in anticipation for sleeping. It took me a little to find a good position, but eventually I was able to find a comfortable position and actually got some good sleep. I woke up this morning feeling great about my choice to go with Nader. Going through a hair transplant can be an emotional roller coaster, but I felt nothing but happiness and relief. Details of surgery- Total grafts- 2520 Hairline- 1290 Grafts Crown- 1230 Grafts Singles- 221 Doubles- 909 Triples- 1208 4's-217 (Dr noted I had a very good donor area with a bank of 7,000 or so, also commenting on the unusual amount of double and triple grafts I have. People who have cut my hair have always noted how crazy thick the back and sides of my hair are. I guess this finally came in handy! ha Cost- Total Cost was $5,445 US. I used the option for 10% off by bringing a cashiers check for the majority of the cost. Nader will reimburse you for a 2 night hotel stay of up to $250. I'm open to any and all questions, and will eventually post pictures. Thank you to all of you for posting your experiences, it got me through some dark times knowing I wasn't alone. Also thank you to Melvin. I think this guy is awesome. His story, transparency, kindness, and tireless work in this hairloss field has been awesome. I remember being in a very dark place over my hairloss a year or so ago, watching some videos by Melvin, and feeling like there was hope.
  6. That is true. Nobody can make out extraction is done in the beard area.
  7. These webpages say tricopigmentation is not suitable for laser removal. The sources are not exactly medical journals (in fact they are competitors to trico) but I couldn't find the opposite being stated anywhere else https://scalpmicrousa.com/scalp-micropigmentation-and-tricopigmentation/ "Tricopigmentation does offer some significant disadvantages. While laser can be used to remove or fix a bad SMP job, the pigment used for tricopigmentation makes it impossible to remove until they allow the tricopigmentation treatment to naturally fade away." https://yourhairdoc.com/scalp-micropigmentation-vs-tricopigmentation/ "Removal of STP pigments can be more problematic than removing SMP pigments. STP inks cannot usually be removed with a laser, as they can get very hot and can burn the skin." Is this true?
  8. It's not that they are purposefully sending you somewhere bad. What it looks like is that Billig Hartransplantation have a relationship with a surgery in Turkey in which they refer patients in exchange for some kick-back. So part of the fee you paid the clinic will go to Billig-HT. Theoretically I could set up the same thing tomorrow: create a website promoting HT's in Turkey, get some patients, book them into some clinic I've found (which could be a good one or a bad one), charge the customer £200 more than what the patient would pay directly to the clinic and then I pay the clinic for the HT procedure on behalf of the patient, pocketing the £200 for essentially making the booking (or I'd get a commission payment from the clinic). I'm basically a sales rep/intermediary in this scenario. There are British companies who do the same and book people in for surgery in Turkey. Some of the results I've seen are horrendous. Indeed, some of the results of work carried about by UK clinics themselves is pretty terrible, too! Now, there's nothing wrong with intermediaries per se (eg, travel agents or even estate agents!). If I was an intermediary and was sending you to Eugenix, or HLC, or Hasson & Wong, or Bisanga or any other top clinic, I'd be doing you quite the favour - especially if you hadn't the time or inclination to do research on HT's. But that only works out well for the patient if the intermediary themselves know what they're talking about, know a great deal about good, natural HT's and know which clinics would be suitable based on your budgets, goals, HT-type, location, quality of work, and so on. Billig-HT may be well-meaning, but if they were experts they wouldn't be sending people to a tech-led clinic in which the lead doctors perform no part of the surgery. They just wouldn't. Definitely get any high resolution pictures that the clinic took. Not only will it help to contextualise your progress, it'll help people here follow your journey. It will also (and hopefully this will be redundant!) be an important piece of documentation for any future disputes - and that's true for any clinic that anyone goes to.
  9. In the Exclusive Package: This implies that in the top package, Bansal will still do all the incisions (the important part) but will also do a few hundred actual implantations. This is true for most clinics... the incisions are made by the doctor and the implantation is performed by techs.
  10. Hi, I took finasteride for 1 year, and switched to dustasteride over 5 months ago, as I saw positive stuff of regrowth from dutaseride online, and experienced no sides from finasteride, so thought why not. Seems to have thickened up my hair overall from baseline on finasteride, not sure if regrowth, or just reversing some of the miniaturised hair. as for hair on the sides, they have been like that for over 10 years with no further change, seems to have been a hormonal thing post puberty, the hair when grown out is more like beard hair, coarser, and wirey. here is photos of my hair from 8 months ago, https://imgur.com/a/HYKDO5p had very long hair then, and shaved it bald to get a true assessment of the hair loss. what I have noticed is lighting plays a massive role in things, some photos I can take and hair looks thick and normal, others look thinner than ever. https://imgur.com/a/J6ypjHo also think I have mixed hair colour throughout, which can make some photos deceiving. as for hairline this is what I would like it to be brought back too, which is basically where it is, just reinforcing it really https://imgur.com/a/O69xW6c I don’t want to disclose where I am getting transplant done yet, but it is one of the ones mentioned above. I’m in sorts of panic mode as the day approaches really and perhaps overthinking things, I know I am doing all the right stuff to maintain existing hair as best I can, and I am aware it is likely I will need further transplants in the future, thanks for all the responses
  11. Hi, I received 3600 graft FUE in early April (so its been a little over 5 months), and in the last few weeks (no longer than 1 month ago) I’ve started getting some persistent headaches. It’s not a ton of pain but it feels like a lot of pressure around my scalp,eyes etc. I’m panicking cuz I’m worried I will have to deal with headaches for the rest of my life thanks to this fue. Can anyone calm me down? Both the dermatologist I saw today and the clinic that performed the HT said that any headaches related to FUE wouldn’t occur this late after procedure. Can someone please help calm me down? Is it fair to say that any FUE related procedure are too “high up” in the skin to affect anything related to lasting headaches? It’s true I have persistent headaches now but I’m also a bit of a worrier. Thanks.
  12. Dear Forum, herewith I report about my hair surgery with Dr. Feriduni on 09/08/2020. A total of 3,782 follicles were placed. I hope that the report will help some of you. Of course, I am happy about comments about the pictures, which I will post regularly. 1. Why Feriduni and preliminary talks 2. Approach & Hotel 3. Step 1: Personal talk in the clinic 4. Step 2: The surgery 5. Step 3: Follow-up inspection and treatment 6. Healing process 7. Summary 1. Why Feriduni and preliminary talks I have had hair loss since I was 20 years old. Now, with 31, it became then sometime too much for me and I have dealt intensively with the topic hair transplantation. Five months passed between the initial decision to have a surgery and the actual surgery appointment - so it went relatively quickly. I started by reading through many reports in forums. (That is why I am writing this report to say "Thank you! 😊) And somehow I got involved with Feriduni from the beginning. His results convinced me the most. In addition, I simply could not find a single bad result of Feriduni. There are certainly other good clinics, but as I said, I decided relatively early. As you know it from most clinics, Feriduni offers a contact form on his homepage, where you can provide pictures and ask for a possible surgery scenario. The preliminary offer sent to me was more than satisfying. So I asked for the next step, what a personal conversation with Feriduni was. Due to Corona, however, this was a zoom meeting. But here Feriduni gained my complete trust through his professional, empathic and optimistic manner and I absolutely wanted to have a hair surgery. So I picked a free surgery appointment, took two weeks vacation and booked everything. Although my anticipation increased, the biggest uncertainty was that Feriduni could never "examine" me personally, but only via a webcam. Well, no risk no fun. 2. Approach & Hotel The cheapest and fastest way to get there was a flight to Düsseldorf and from there I took a rental car to Hasselt (about 1.5 hours by car). In Hasselt I stayed at the HasHotel, which offers special conditions for Feriduni patients. I can absolutely recommend the HasHotel. But make sure that you stay in the newly built building complex. The rooms are huge, modern and stylish. Costs for flights, rental car, fuel, hotel: approx. 900€ However, these are the costs for two people, because my girlfriend accompanied me and I covered all the costs. If I would have travelled alone the costs would have been reduced by about 350€. 3. Step 1: Personal talk in the clinic The day before the operation I went to the clinic for the first time and had a personal conversation with Dr. Feriduni. There we went through all data & facts of the preliminary talk again and my head was measured for the first time (dimensions & donor analysis). I was attested that I am a very good candidate for hair surgery. However, since my hair loss is not yet complete, I have to be prepared for one, if not two more surgeries in the course of my life. However, I knew this before or after my zoom meeting. But my donor gives away 13,000 follicles, which according to Feriduni is far above average. I was lucky. The last thing he did was to draw the hair line. Feriduni asked me constantly about my wishes, but finally I gave him a free hand. In principle, he considers everything for the hairline: the number of grafts in the donor for further operations; the general shape of the face as well as personal wishes. When the hairline was finished and I was more than satisfied, Feriduni asked me if I could just leave the hairline on until the next day. Normally, the line is drawn again on the day of the surgery, but Feriduni said that he could not make it better. And we would save time on the day of the operation itself. So I agreed and I walked around the rest of the day with a line on my head. 😊 For tomorrow's surgery 3,500 grafts are planned. But I was also told that the need for grafts during surgery may change again. 4. Step 2: The surgery At 7:30 a.m. I was picked up at the HasHotel by a cab at Feriduni's expense. Once I arrived at the clinic, I was assigned a personal room where I could change my clothes. They explained to me briefly what was going to happen today and then it already started. The first thing they did was to shave my hair. A short look in the mirror afterwards and I thought to myself: "Damn, looks actually quite good with 1mm. " Anyway, I am happy anyway. I then sat down on the operating chair and the anesthetic syringes were given to me. Absolutely painless. It was almost more painful to place the cannula in the crook of my arm for the saline solution. The anesthesia worked after a few seconds and I had to turn around to remove the grafts. This was by far the most strenuous part for me as a patient. For about 4 hours I lay on the operating table on my stomach and was not allowed to move. In the beginning it is all easy, but after a few hours you tense up and you feel an incredible pressure on your lungs. But you knew what you were getting into. So everything is not that bad. The removal of the grafts was done with two surgical aids and a third surgical aid, which took care of the counting. A total of 3,670 grafts were removed in this step. Dr. Feriduni then placed the slices. From now on I sat comfortably in the operating chair. I was offered to watch Netflix, which I did for a few minutes. But then I switched the television off again. Somehow I didn't feel like it at all and I think the sedative I was given kicked in slowly and I started relaxing and dozing. The grafts are placed all over the front area, so even where I still had hair. Dr. Feriduni said that these hairs will support the look at first, but if they fall out over time, I will still have a natural look. Next, the surgical aids put the grafts that were initially removed back into the slices that were placed right before. All unspectacular. You just sit there and do nothing but wait. You can't see what is happening up there. When all the grafts were placed, Dr. Feriduni decided after the checkup that he needed another 120 grafts. So I went through all the steps mentioned above again in a quick run until the desired final result was achieved. The whole operation took about eight hours. Dr. Feriduni said that 3,782 grafts for one day is a lot and that this does not happen too often in the clinic. This is also due to the fact that we worked through without any complications and without a break. (A break was offered to me, but I declined with thanks). The surgical nurses and Dr. Feriduni himself were very enthusiastic about my results. Of course, one cannot say whether they say this to every patient or whether it was really true. In any case, I did not have the impression that anything was being played to me. According to my unprofessional opinion, I am quite satisfied after the operation. Then post-op pictures were taken and I was finally allowed to take a cab back to the hotel, exhausted but happy at Feriduni's expense. 5. Step 3: Follow-up inspection and treatment The next day I went back to the clinic for a follow-up check and for washing. This was all done by a surgical aid. Unfortunately, I scratched my head the first night, so I lost exactly one follicle. Well, one follicle is bearable I think. But with that I was sensitized that I have to be very careful. That's why from now on I "tied myself up" with a bathrobe belt at night to avoid touching my transplanted grafts again unintentionally. Apart from that I was confirmed that everything looks very good. Then it was explained to me again in detail how I should use the care products that I received. This included a spray to be applied regularly, a lotion to soften the crusts and an oil against itching in the donor area. Also included was a shampoo for the first time and a cooling pad for the swellings. Medications were also included, which were used up after about two weeks. I also got an app for my cell phone, which shows me how to take care of my hair every day. Very helpful. In addition, the app uses a traffic light system to show what is prohibited and what is allowed (sleeping horizontally, sports, sex, headgear, etc.). Afterwards I started my return journey. By the way, completely without headgear. It was more important to me not to cause any damage than to be looked at in a strange way. But the latter actually did not happen. 6. Healing process - Day 0: No pain. Just a great feeling of pressure around the head. I took a painkiller pro forma to get a good night's sleep. - Day 1: Apart from the not painful but strange feeling of pressure on my head, I don't notice anything at all. - Day 13: I remove the complete crust after soaking my head in cling film with lotion half an hour before. The redness at the transplanted area is really limited. That was my biggest worry. - Day 14: It feels like everything has healed. From now on I only feel numbness in the transplanted area, but this is gradually diminishing. But even today (day 35) I still feel numbness. - Day 15: Tomorrow I will go to work again. After consultation with Dr. Feriduni, I may carefully trim my hair in the donor and reception area to 1mm with a hair clipper. This is what I have done. I actually like the look on 1mm quite well. Until today I wear my hair on 1mm. So far no one has noticed that I had a hair transplant. In principle, this would not have been bad, but of course it's quite pleasant if you don't notice it at work at all. Everyone just thought that I shaved my hair off. My plan now is to wear my hair on 1mm six months postoperatively and let it grow from then on. 7. Summary I am completely satisfied with how everything went. Of course I can't make any comparisons, but I don't know what should have gone differently or better. And since I'm only 1 month post-op, I can't say anything about how satisfied I am with the final result. But I am carefully optimistic. Many thanks to Dr. Feriduni and his whole team! If the result should be good, I will have my further operations performed by Dr. Feriduni without much consideration. Dr. Feriduni and his team act very professionally. It should be said that Dr. Feriduni is of course the boss in his clinic, but he acts at eye level with his assistants. Some of them have been doing the job for over 20 years and I have always felt that I was in good hands. For me it didn't matter at all that Feriduni didn't do everything himself. (Which wouldn't have been possible anyway with this number of grafts). Attached you'll find picture pre op, post op, 7 days post op, 10 days post op and 14 days post op. I will keep you updated.
  13. That is not true, it can only affect the baby if the pregnant mother ingests the medication. It doesn’t absorb through sperm.
  14. Hello everyone, thanks for letting me join this forum. A lot of important and valuable information for anyone regarding hair loss! My main question is, when comparing Dorin to True is one better then the other? When looking at before and after almost all are done by Robert Dorin. Who is, an amazing and skilled surgeon who constantly provides great results and has a consistent track record. However, I can’t find much of True here or on the website. A lot of the post op photos Dorin and True post on their website are what Dorin surgically does and posts here so that’s how I distinguish them. My main concern is, does it really matter between the two if I had to choose? I know everyone on this website reiterates “do it right or don’t do it all”. Thank you for your help. 23, Norwood 2, no thinning and in propecia.
  15. Not necessarily true at all, it completely depends on the case the patient presents . . . and in this case we have no idea what OP's pre surgery situation was, as he's focused the topic on his donor. For example, @1978matt had a procedure of around 700 grafts purely for his crown, and the difference it made was night and day. Small, carefully planned procedures are much more fool proof than larger procedures IMO. Anyway OP, at 3 months and with a skin fade, despite the shoddy picture quality, your donor looks great to me.
  16. If you aren't experiencing sides, then you are lucky as it is the best defence available against hair loss progressing, and you should continue to persevere if you feel comfortable in doing so. Your strategy of upping the dosage incrementally is smart, and if you are ok side wise, you could consider upping it gradually to aim to reach 1mg per day. It can take as long as 12-24 months to start to see true results,
  17. True & Dorin are a ethical clinic, the graft might change a little on the day. Be interesting to see 👍🏼
  18. You are fairly young with a very advanced pattern. It is important to realize, if you've shown the propensity to lose, you will continue losing hair. Currently you are well demarcated in the back but there is plenty of native hair you can save. Getting on the medical regimen is of outmost importance, (and stay on it). It does not do you any good to be on it and get off of it. Say you are on it for a year. Not only do you retain but also get some enhancement. Then you get off. You'll end up loosing what you would have lot in that time period. So, let's pretend you would have lost it all, that's exactly what will happen. The opposite is also true. I wish we did have a crystal ball at times. The good thing here is you have lighter color hair and light scalp. So, if you do end up doing any transplants, the lack of contrast will end up helping you. I do think, however, you have unrealistic expectations. There is simply not enough donor to give you a full - dense - set of hair. But, if you do some homework/research, you could end up with a very natural "realistic" and pattern appropriate result. Go to the mall...and look at people. Better yet, look at yourself. Look particularly at class 6 patterns and the way they lose. They tend to keep a bit on the forelock/front, lighter density through the mid scalp and and empty crown. So, concentrating grafts in the frontal area and blending some to the area right behind it should be the main focus. This not only will help frame your face but will will give you a pattern appropriate design. Keep in mind the front is what people see when you interact with them. You did mention Rogaine provided some success. I would consider getting on all modalities for 1 year. Take photos every 3 months. Rogaine, Propecia, PRP and laser. Then, based on the results, you can then decide what to do. If, however, you are adamant about having a full set of hair, I would leave things be and take a vacation. You could consider SMP.
  19. Well I'm confused a bit. You're implying that crown hair can be a part of donor hair, no? it's interesting bc my crown, in the very back, is covered, so it looks like I have this nice huge donor area. But in reality when you lift it up with a comb you can see the true donor area and strong hair which is a very narrow area. My donor capacity is probably 5000 max. I've already been told by a top doc its around 4000 max before it would look suspect. For the life of me I can't think of any public figures that have that true norwood 7 horseshoe with the deep drop at the crown AND a semi decent forelock left. If you can, let me know.
  20. Yes it is true that vasoconstriction is not of a long duration. That’s why we top up the effect using diluted injections with tumescent which is more frequently injected (in each zone we work with). Moreover, we really want the bleeding controlled while working so 30 mins is good enough while maximum visibility is important. After that your normal body clotting mechanism is sufficient to control.
  21. Hello everyone, I underwent a hair transplant from 8 to 10.03.2021 with Dr. Kaan in Ankara and am now 8 days post surgery. As a silent reader, I have been following the posts here in the forum for quite some time and have been able to gather many important insights for my own HT. In this context, I would like to share my experience report with you in order to possibly also serve as a help for others. True to the motto: Give it back to the community! Background - 26 years old - Hair loss for about 5-6 years - Medication: Minoxidil (stopped due to severe shedding and irritation), Finasteride since 2018 Why Dr. Kaan? - Expertise in donor management due to my young age - FUE including manual harvesting - Doctor takes care of all essential processes himself - Very good results in various forums (here, Alopezia, BelliCapelli) - Comprehensive consultation and analysis of my situation including previous history - Friendly and informative communication via contact person Arrival and hotel - PCR test (Corona) and complete blood count in Germany - Direct flight on 7.3.2021 via SunExpress from Düsseldorf to Ankara - Pick-up by the driver went smoothly - The hotel "Atakösk" recommended by the clinic is at most okay, but the location (maximum 200m to the clinic) is great Clinic The clinic is well equipped and very modern. It is especially nice that you are the only patient and therefore really relaxed. It is also nice that you have your "own" lounge. There are various drinks and small refreshments available for the breaks. Planning and surgery Every surgery day started at 8 am. On the first day, after a pleasant meeting with Dr. Kaan, we planned the operation. We discussed the pros and cons of various options and finally agreed on 3100-3200 grafts to fill the front and the midscalp with a density of about 50 per cm2, which decreases slightly towards the midscalp. Afterwards, the hair was shaved and the procedure began. The anaesthesia and the injections are not that bad and were easy for me to bear. The only unpleasant part was lying on my stomach while the grafts were being removed. As far as the timing is concerned, in my case about 500 grafts were taken out and then there was a short break. Then the grafts were inserted. After this procedure there was a lunch break. The food during the lunch break is good and tasty. This procedure was repeated for the next two days and was altogether more bearable than I had expected. I did not need painkillers on any of the days of the operation. Only lying around for a long time is a bit annoying, but since I often fell asleep during the operation, this was not a problem on the whole. It is also important to mention that you have the possibility to contact Dr. Kaan after each day of the operation in case of complications. Aftercare The bandage was removed, the donor was smeared with Bepanthen and saline solution was applied to the recipient. Afterwards, Dr Kaan examined me again and told me that everything looked very good. I was also given the post-operative instructions and given medication and lotion. Afterwards, I was able to ask Dr. Kaan open questions. Conclusion All in all, I felt very well looked after. I was particularly impressed by the doctor's friendly manner coupled with his expertise. The fact that only one patient is treated per day is also a great advantage in my opinion. I have the impression that Dr. Kaan sets the highest standards for himself and does everything for a good result for his patients. I am now hoping for a good result and looking forward to the coming months. I will try to update this post on a monthly basis and post transparent and honest pictures. If you have any questions, I will try to answer them as best as possible. Greetings Tug
  22. You should be able to gain some thickness back, yes, and in fact at least be at or above baseline in 10 years time (i.e. either better than now, or without any worsening) if we go by the most recent and longest study of over 500 men spanning a 10 year period. Generally, the less miniaturised the hair, it seems the more likely you are to have a significant recovery - yours don't seem too far gone at all for this to maybe happen. You could also try micro needling along with your minoxidil/perhaps use oral minoxidil - I've seen numerous people re-grow a full head of hair doing this with similar staring points as yourself. Also, c'mon man, you know that's not true. This statement is almost cliche amongst these forums at this point, and it's a telltale sign that you need to take a step back and re-evaluate things. You're only thinking about the immediate, which is stupid and unrealistic to be blunt. people who are losing their hair at 18, 19 or 20 and desperately want a transplant say the same thing about the age you're at now, believe me I've seen them say 'I won't care when I'm 30+ so it doesn't matter if I'm going to keep balding' and then proceed to ignore all advice. We're the same age, and I know for a fact I'm gonna care about the way I look in my late 30's (which is less than a decade away for both of us, its not a long time at all) and beyond. I could understand to some degree if you said when you were in your 60's or 70's (I still think you will even then, by the way), but 30's and 40's isn't even old. What if you find yourself to be single at 37 or 38, say your gf/wife disappears, are you suddenly going to feel happy and confident being bald and looking 'old' as you said? Not saying dating/women is the main motivation behind a HT, just proposing a scenario in which you might think oh yeah, I will still care. Besides, go look up the age of most of the people you grew up listening to, or watching in certain shows/movies, who are still relevant today and popular - I bet most are at least getting to or in their late 30's and don't seem anything near old to you.
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