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  1. My journey and how I got to decide on Dr. Konior Started losing hair roughly 10 years ago around the age of 23. Finasteride worked really well but had to stop due to sides. Now I only use Nizoral/Minox but I don't think those are helping. Initially I decided to go with Dr. Diep but after reading @jimcraig152's post here and searching through other Diep's topics, I decided to shop around a little more and settled on Konior. Luckily due to Covid there was a cancellation very soon after I contacted him, so it all worked out. Day of procedure Got there at 6:30 am, filled out some paperwork and ordered the lunch (Jimmy John's) and then from 7am until about 8am we talked about the hairline and my plans etc. The procedure started around 8am-ish. I was given Valium so I slept through a huge part of the procedure. At 1pm they finished the harvesting and I got lunch, and then they continued implanting the grafts until around 7:30pm. I was able to drive myself home after the procedure (had to sign the waiver). Below you can see the pics from before the procedure (6am-ish that day), one with my hair buzzed and the hairline drawn and also two pics after the procedure. I will keep updating this thread as the time passes.
  2. Headed to Chicago in six weeks for a hair transplant from Dr. Konior. For folks who have spent time in Oakbrook after their FUT, any pointers?
  3. After speaking with Dr. Konior and Dr. Nadimi this weekend, Dr. Konior mentioned a study conducted by Dr. Ron Shapiro, an elite surgeon who actually kick started this community by performing surgery on @Pat - Community Publisher the study concludes that patients who start off with FUT first and combine FUE get more lifetime grafts than either technique alone. I thought it was pretty interesting, especially for those interested in maximizing donor supply. https://www.ishrs-htforum.org/content/htfi/29/5/local/front-matter.pdf
  4. The results I’ve been most impressed with are Konior, H&W, and Couto. If money is no object (and the longer wait times work out), I’d select the one whose style matches what you are looking for. Keep in mind that from speaking/contacting reps (or Konior himself in that case) with all three, the impression I get is that Couto is excellent with Mediterranean hair but will take the longest (as even a consultation takes months to years and surgery the year after), H&W do amazing crown work and have shorter wait time and I think slightly cheaper per graft (but require fin for higher Norwoods, which I simply can’t do, unfortunately). Konior is more expensive per graft, but he has a great sense of donor management and churns out brilliant results with less grafts. For more affordable options, Freitas, the folks at Eugenix, and Shapiro have some homeruns.
  5. Hi All, I have just undergone my first hair transplant procedure and will be documenting the progress on here and would be good to get some feedback. Background: About myself, I am just turning 27 years old. Have been dealing with some kind of hairloss since around 18, when I started noticing thinning on the temples. I took saw palmetto and primrose oil for a couple of years. Before starting taking finasteride just before turning 21. This definitely slowed my hairloss dramatically, but still some slight recession over the years. i think if i was taking no medication it would be extremely aggressive hairloss as all male relatives were bald at an early age. I decided to go with Dr Reddy at Harley Street in the end for a few reasons. Last year I was looking at Dr Konior but due to living in the UK and covid situation it wasn't very feasible. Through researching Europe based Dr's I really liked Dr Reddy's work and in particular his hairline design with generally conservative number of grafts. I had an initial consultation back in June, and one thing I liked in particular was the fact he was not pushy or trying to sell me it at all. Just giving me the information to questions I was asking. I decided to go with a 2 day 2000 graft operation to get maximum accuracy and finesse with the hairline as possible as the rest of my hair is pretty stable. The Day of the Operation: I was pretty nervous the week leading up the operation as it is a big deal to me and something I have been thinking about for a while as an option, so in a way actually having it happen was scary as I would be finding out how it would look one way or the other. I stayed in a hotel nearby so had some breakfast and walked over in the morning. Dr Reddy works in his own clinic now so it was just myself, Dr Reddy, the technician Bev and Dr Reddy's assistant Alda so you feel very comfortable and private. I would like to thank Bev in particular as she was with me basically the whole of the 2 days and was very friendly and reassuring about everything which helped put my mind at ease. I started with having the back and sides of my head shaved as I went with the option of keeping long on top as I have a lot of meetings for work. I am taking a couple of weeks off so it should look back to normalish by that point and no-one any the wiser as I wear my hair down. The first day the extractions were all done from the back of the head, Dr Reddy does all the extractions himself and then Bev takes the follices out. Due to the speed of healing and bleeding this was done in 3 sessions of punching and then extracting. Which minimised the time between the punch and actually being pulled out. After this I had some lunch provided by the clinic and then the hairline was drawn on, I have attached a picture of what was agreed at the initial consultation and will include more when I get them from the clinic. My main goals were not to drastically lower the hairline or square it, but to fix the temples and solidify across to better frame the face and give me the option of having my hair pushed back. Dr Reddy then implanted all the grafts himself, focusing mainly on the first day of filling in the density as well as singles for the hairline. Initially this was quite pain-free, besides the anaesthetic injections. However as the time went on these got more painful. The Dr said I metabolised it very fast and there was a limit on how much could keep being put in. I then went home and slept not too great but managed to stay on my back most of the night, some light swelling in the mroning and pain which was helped by pushing the liquid down the side of my face. The second day was pretty similar to the first, except the grafts were taken from the sides of my head and Dr Reddy filled in the gaps and finished off the hairline from the first day. I managed to sleep a bit better that evening I think as I knew it was finally over. I have been spraying every half hour with a solution provided by the clinic and will do this for the first 3 days. Pictures attached: A photo from when I was 19 and starting Saw palmetto, you can see how clearly the receding already started, although I think propecia has slowed it down A photo from last year which I sent to Dr Konior where you can see how the hairline is weak and what I wanted A photo after my consultation with the Dr where we designed an example hairline. I will get a better one from the clinic for this A photo of how I normally wear my hair to hide it, i have very curly hair so wearing it down disguises it. Apart from the dreaded gust of wind or pool! Which meant I wore a cap a lot And then 2 photos taken by Dr Reddy after the surgery of the donor and the hairline. Long post so thank you for reading this far!
  6. Looking for a HT Surgeon in US (also including H&W). Below is the list of the top 10 that I've found during my research (could be wrong). I was wondering if people could provide their top 5 and if they could provide any personal experience, including any of them to avoid. I'm leaning towards Wesley but not so many reviews on him in comparison to the others. Otherwise I was thinking H&W. 1. Wesley 2. Hasson & Wang 3. Jae Pak 4. Timothy Carman 5. Ron Shapiro 6. Konior 7. Rassman 8. Diep 9. Parsa Mohebi 10. Feller & Bloxham
  7. Thanks for the input everyone. It seems as though Konior really is the favorite with H&W a close second. Out of curiosity, with the exception of this network there aren't many reviews or articles on him or his clinic? Any reason why is or that the industry norm and some other doctors just invest in online marketing campaigns? Thanks.
  8. Rassman is an industry veteran but no longer at the same standard as the rest of the list. Jae Pak who I think trained under Rassman is similarly below par in my opinion, these are realself celebs in that they (or their marketing team) responds to ample questions on the website to get their names out but ultimately they aren't at the top of the industry. Not to say the rest of the list are bad surgeons, but the only options here I personally would happily pay money for are Konior, Hasson/Wong and Bloxham. The rest don't differentiate themselves from the pack in an impressive enough way for me to consider them or don't reach levels of what I would desire for consistency/aesthetics for the price. In terms of hairline aesthetics and density Hasson in particular is above the rest. Wong and Konior do some of the best crown work in the world, Konior being one of the best generalists simultaneously and who I'd choose if money wasn't a consideration. Bloxham and Nadimi at Konior's clinic are in a slightly lower bracket albeit both significantly cheaper than Konior and both doing consistently good work. Nadimi occasionally too conservative for my taste however. Wesley does good work but for the price I can't see a convincing reason not to choose Hasson/Wong if those are the main considerations.
  9. Just went to Nadimi last Monday. Same office as konior. Really clean work. She did everything, with help from techs. I think the techs said that they work 5 days and so I think it’s the same techs for both Nadimi and konior. At least that was my interpretation while on Valium. Her waiting list is may2022, konior is already in 2023.
  10. Hey all! Decided to make a post here, because I wanted to track my experience from the beginning. I am a soon to be 28 year old and a fairly fit male. I have been on finasteride and minoxidil for around 6 years and attempted to get a HT at age 23, but was turned down due to young age. Now at an older age I decided to just do it! I was told I needed around 1500 grafts for a dense-pack fill. Let me know if you guys have any interest or questions in regards to my story. Note: at the time of my procedure I had just turned 28. i decided last year around September that I was comfortable with getting a procedure done soon. Since I knew that the top doctors had waiting lists up to and over a year I decided to bite the bullet. As an engineer by trade I spent countless hours researching and planning. I had originally wanted to get my procedure done by one of the top doctors in Spain. However, I had visited Spain last October 2019 visiting and the long flight plus the unknowns of recovery in a foreign country did not seem too convincing. I iterated and went with who I felt was the best doctor in North America. I go a little bit in depth with how I choose Konior over other doctors much closer to me in the YouTube video. I posted a lot more background info on myself as well as my history with hair loss among many other things please watch if you are interested. My surgery went amazing and my experience during the planning with Konior was nothing short of amazing. Once again for a more detailed breakdown feel free to watch the videos. Pics: https://ibb.co/q1rZ4Mh https://ibb.co/VqP4ZJWhttps://ibb.co/G9wLcpx
  11. I began losing my hair in my teens. By the time I finally got to go in for surgery, I had receding temples, and thinning from front to vertex. Thankfully, I had a pretty good donor area to work with, and was referred to Dr. Konior by a relative of mine who found out I was going to go to a "hair mill" and wind up with plugs and intervened, and pointed me to these forums to learn more before undergoing such a major decision. Here are some progress photos for those considering the same. Pre-Transplant front and then styled photos of the crown and front. Styling was key for me for many years, the wax style made such a difference in my hair at least in the frontal areas. Day Zero (Surgery): I received 2,380 grafts about 25% were 3's, 60% were 2's and the rest were singles. All in all, nearly 5,000 hairs. This was in December 2020, the year of the dumpster fire, but something good would come from it, in finally getting this procedure. Day One: Felt pretty good from surgery, my least favorite thing was the dreaded horseshoe from shaving the recipient site. The longer side hair around the donor area was greasy and clumpy from Neosporin, so it not only looked awful, but felt bad too. Aside from this, we were happy with the initial results. Recipient Site, Donor Site (AKA Greasy Horseshoe) Day Four: This was the day I got to fly home from Chicago, they did one final cleaning of me that day and they were nice enough on day three to buzz the rest of the hair and rid me of the Greasy Horseshoe. 10/10 recommend this, your recipient shaved area is going to take a while to grow back so might as well be comfortable as you go and you are way less depressed when looking in the mirror. I actually didn't even wear my loose hat in the airport even though I'd been cleared to, off chance I would be seen by anyone I knew in an airport in another city, more off chance they'd recognize me given the cut and COVID mask, and I had become a little de-sensitized over the five days in Chicago. I actually only wore a hat during the first two weeks for Christmas photos. People really don't care or give much of a look these days. Day Twelve: This is the day I got my stitches removed. Dr. K said that they could have been removed two days prior, and the removing doctor of course agreed and was thankful I didn't wait for my Day 15 appt I had scheduled. However you know Christmas happened and everywhere was closed. Day Twelve was the best I could do. Doctor stated that I had some build up but would go away once I started regular washing rather than being extra careful and probably not doing as good of a job. This day was AMAZING, I came home and showered a little more regularly with the stitches gone, still using gentle touches and lukewarm water temperature. Getting out of this shower felt like a new man. These pictures came the next day as I wanted to wait to let the aggravation from removal go away, as well as get to buzzing the area a little more evenly where it was longer around the stitch site previously. As you can see I still have some crusty scabs in the front taking their time coming off, but they're on their way out and have improved GREATLY. I've been putting aloe on the area since day six and that's really when the scabs started coming off. I've avoided picking at them, mostly I just wipe gently post shower with a dry soft rag, and whatever clumps to it is what comes off for the day, here is the view from the top. Third is a picture that shows the scar as well as no mans land that wasn't cleaned well, between the scar which got good careful shower attention, and the graft zone which got good careful attention, be careful not to neglect this area as I did, as it now gets to get in on the healing party too. Finally we have a closer shot of the bottom of the scar, and one of the more sensitive side terminal of the scar. I will say that day thirteen of these photos is the first day I really reduced the Advil intake from every 4-6 hours to about twice a day. To be continued.
  12. Age 26, Norwood ~3V + retrograde + diffuse thinning (including donor) Medication: dutasteride 0.5mg/day, foam minoxidil 1-2mL/night Hair characteristics: high contrast with skin, fine, straight Cost: 2.15 euros/graft which is a discount from 2.25 euros/graft because I agreed to provide them anonymized photo updates for their own use. Posting this thread is my own choice. Though, I wish clinics would offer discounts for patients to post threads from start to finish. I see nothing wrong with that. Also, I think the price has gone up recently. Hair loss timeline: 18 - Looking back at old pictures, I had signs of thinning at the hairline 20 - Barber mentioned uneven nape, now I know it was the beginning of retrograde. Started noticing loss at the hairline/crown, found out about finasteride and tried to get on it but my awful dermatologist wouldn't prescribe it to me saying my loss wasn't bad enough 22 - Went back to the dermatologist, still wouldn't prescribe finasteride to me (I think because of side effects? don't remember). He instead prescribed topical minoxidil (requires a prescription in Canada) but he didn't make it sound like it was worth it (annoying to apply, need to use it for life), so I never went through with it 24 - Hair was looking awful, finally decided to do something about it - did my own research, went to a different doctor who was not a moron, and got a 5mg finasteride prescription. Quartered that for 6 months. Also started 1mL liquid minoxidil at the same time 25 - Didn't notice any changes after 6 months, seemed to have maintained. Switched from finasteride to dutasteride to keep as much hair as possible. Got a microscope and analyzed my donor, saw greater than average thinning 26 - Seem to have continued to maintain. Switched to foam minoxidil because liquid takes forever to dry Moral of the story - Many doctors are crap. Take medical matters into your own hands and leave nothing to chance. I carried those learnings over to my HT research. Choice of surgeon: I sent the following clinics (in no particular order) pictures/videos of my hair/recipient/donor. The main point of contention between their opinions was regarding the microscopic videos/images of my donor. Hasson - "Dr. Hasson felt there was more miniaturization than the typical 10-15% and therefore a procedure would involve a bit more risk." Wong - "Dr. Wong on the other hand did not believe there was any signs of dupa and would have no reservations performing a procedure." Bhatti - He was concerned, felt that my donor density was quite low and wanted me to get evaluated in person Bloxham - Wasn't concerned, was more interested in if I noticed any changes in my hair, and said a proper in person examination would be in order Konior - Not concerned, said my donor area was about average Bisanga - More miniaturization in the donor than they would like to see for someone my age, and suggested an in-person consultation Ferreira - Said my donor isn't great, but that I'm far from DUPA, and that my prognosis is good Lorenzo - Said I didn't have DUPA but didn't go into any more details. I feel like they may not have seen the microscopic videos. Wish they would have at least acknowledged my weak donor. Tried following up multiple times to get clarity, but they never responded Diep - saw him in person since I was nearby, he said I had 10k+ grafts available in my donor. 'nuff said. Rassman/Bernstein - said I have more thinning than average but not yet DUPA, suggested I wait a few years, but said I could get a small HT Hattingen - said they would not operate on me, suggested I send them yearly updates of my hair loss situation to see if their opinion changes HLC - didn't want to say anything regarding my microscopic videos, said I would need an in-person dermascopy evaluation, but didn't seem too concerned Pekiner - noted the miniaturization but said my donor was good enough and that they select the highest quality grafts At some point, I decided I was mostly interested in clinics where the surgeon does most, if not all the work. I understand the benefit of technicians doing parts of the procedure like extracting/implanting grafts, but I just feel more comfortable knowing that the surgeon is doing all the important aspects of the procedure themselves, and that I can hold them fully accountable. This left me with a few options at the time: Konior, Ferreira, HLC, Pekiner. Ferreira - I couldn't travel to Portugal because of COVID and wanted to see more results Konior - I think he is one of the best, but I was disappointed that he didn't acknowledge the miniaturization in my donor. My guess is he did notice it but that he's confident in his skills/work and doesn't want his patients to overthink things. I'll likely still see him in the future for temple point work or if I need any touch up on the hairline HLC - Didn't like not knowing which doctor would work on you, and the fact that you could have multiple throughout your procedure. Also have seen some cases where I felt the graft count was a bit aggressive for the patient's age. Have heard communication is also an issue Pekiner - I liked the technique, the small number of grafts per day (~1000), the fact that he is conservative and honest with his patients. Liked that he had a lot of patient reviews from start to finish (mostly on the Italian forum). Very experienced with hairline work and liked his hairlines and density (especially needed with my fine hair). Communication with his rep Alex has been very good. Aborting was a concern, but they told me that they now inform the patient of any findings but ultimately let them decide whether to proceed. Given he would select the highest quality grafts available, I was not too concerned. Also knowing that the graft count could be adjusted on the day of procedure (say down to 1500), my mind was more or less at ease. In the end, he said my donor was slightly better than expected. Procedure: Each day lasted from around 8am-5pm. On the first day of procedure, I had a discussion with Dr. Pekiner about my hair loss history and goals. We then took the photos, designed the hairline, and shaved the head. Then we moved on to the actual extraction/implantation. The way it works with Dr. Pekiner, similar to HLC, is you have two sessions of extraction/15min break/implantation per day, AM and then PM. In between these sessions, they have a chef who provides a meal for you (bonus points for catering to a vegan diet - the food was delicious). At the end of each day, they wrap your head in a bandage to protect the grafts/donor. On the third morning, they give you a final clean up and provide you with the aftercare kit including saline spray for the recipient and bepanthol lotion for the donor. 1 hair: 249 2 hairs: 682 3 hairs: 710 4 hairs: 164 Average hairs/graft: 2.43 Recovery: Sleeping - I'm normally a side sleeper, and started practicing to sleep on my back a couple months in advance. I don't think this is necessary, I just wanted to learn to sleep on my back anyway. Regardless, you'll need a travel/neck pillow anyway to make sure you don't turn in your sleep, and I think you'll be tired enough to fall asleep on your back even if you're not used to it. Another recommendation I have is to zip your arms inside a sweater, so you don't damage your grafts in your sleep. I've seen this happen enough times on these forums, even over the past few months, that I didn't want to take any risks. At one point I was very tired and fell asleep without zipping up my arms, and I actually caught myself lightly reaching up and tapping my recipient area as I was waking up. Nothing bad happened, but I was much more cautious the next times I went to bed and ensured that I zipped up my arms each time. Swelling - I noticed swelling mostly on days 3-4, but nothing too bad compared to what I saw online. I just let it pass with time. Pain - No pain for the first week really. From days ~6-10 I had some donor pain when I'd lay down on my pillow, so I'd just take paracetamol 20 mins before going to bed. Crusts/scabs - was instructed to start gentle massaging them starting day 6, increasing intensity with each day. By day 9, pretty much all of them were gone. Redness - I started using aloe vera as I've read that it helps. Haven't noticed too much improvement yet by day 30. The donor is still red but it's harder to see as the hair is growing longer. The recipient is still red, and the shedding is making that more visible. Feel free to ask any questions. I can add some recent photos soon. I'll probably update monthly.
  13. We have a similar hair loss pattern and I’ve booked a surgery with Dr. Konior for next year, so I’m excited to see your progress! Initial pictures look great; I’m sure it will be a stellar result.
  14. Hello my fellow Hair Restoration Network patrons (and the man, the myth, the legend Melvin!) , yesterday I had my procedure done with Dr. Luis Nader of Nader Medical in Reynoso, MX. I had a fantastic experience and feel I owe it to this community to share/answer questions about it. Backstory- I first noticed my hairline had changed for the worse when I entered basic training in 2009 at the age of 23, and had my head buzzed down. I started using rogaine, saw palmetto, and nizoral shampoo after I got out of basic a few months later. I believe these 3 slowed my hairloss down to a turtles pace, and at times halted it. I have a mixed bag or hairlines on both sides of my family. I maintained a NW 1.5-2 my entire 30's, which I considered a massive win. I have a background in college and a brief professional career in a sport which resulted in 8 surgeries and pain that I still feel today at 37. I started using Kratom at around 34 for pain management. From everything I had read it was a safe alternative to opiods, etc. I continued to take the Kratom for a little over 2 years before multiple side effects became impossible to ignore ( that's a real rabbit hole ), but my biggest issue was it seemed to speed up my hairloss from a very slow pace to warp speed. I weened myself off said substance and my hairloss stabilized immediately without any further intervention (even thickening up a little). However my hairline and crown took a real beating during this time and a true recovery did not seem to be in the cards without surgical intervention. At this point I went from a NW 2.5 to a NW 3 V which just didn't look good on me anymore. I used some fibers to fill the crown for awhile, but I didnt wan't to have to do this for the rest of my life, and eventually ended up buzzing it down to a 2, then 1, then 0. I look "ok" with it buzzed down, but I tried to live with it for a year and was never happy with it. I did not take finasteride during this period because of what I had read/horror stories on reddit etc, and because I was starting a family in my 30's and wanted to maintain fertility and not have any possible birth defects. Selecting a Surgeon- I like many of you probably know more about hair transplants, the science, and hairloss than I care to admit. I have been researching transplants for 10 years, and consider it one of the subjects that I can speak on with a great deal of knowledge. I seriously enquired with Dr. Konior, Dr. Panine, and Restore Hair Clinic (within an easy driving distance, and 2/3 are very well respected as many of you know). The prices were pretty staggering, and while I could have financially made it work, it would have hurt. I have a career where I make good money, not great. $20k plus is a hard pill to swallow for many of us. From here I started researching on this website, as well as a couple reddit forums. It was through these that I came across Surgery tourism and began investigating Turkey and Mexico. Turkey was out quickly when I broke down the logistics of cost, flight, time, vacation needed off work, etc. I then narrowed down my prospects to HMR (the cortez brothers), Neopal, Dr. Sara Salas, and Nader Medical. I had serious consultations with HMR, Sara, and Nader. I could never get anyone from Neopal to call me back after repeated emails and calls. I found Dr. Sara salas really delightful when we spoke, but her prices were pretty steep for what I was looking for (also endorsed and trained under dr. Wrassman). The Cortez brothers communicated well and the price was what I was thinking, but I didn't love all the hairline photos I saw of their work. By no means am I slamming them, I think they do great work, and am seeing more and more people sharing positive experiences they have had there. Finally I contacted Nader Medical and it felt right almost immediately. The receptionist/liason Brenda is a saint. She answered my endless questions promptly and was extremely professional. Every single person online that has shared their experience with Dr. Nader came away raving about him. They all spoke of how much he genuinely cared, how this was a passion of his, not all about the money, and the results always looked great. I found all of this to be true as well. Dr. Nader was warm, gentle, extremely knowledgeable, and had a very calming presence about him. After many emails, and calls I decided to book my appointment. The actual surgery and details- Flew into McAllen, which is right across the border from Reynoso, MX, where I stayed at the Days Inn by Wyndham. This hotel is a mile and half from the airport, and was a very basic, yet clean hotel room. Some might be a big snobbish to it (it's no 4/5 star), but through the military and sports I have lived/stayed in some absolute shit holes. This was no shit hole. I flew in wednesday afternoon, had the surgery thursday, and am currently in between flights on my way home on friday. Nader arranged for a very friendly guy named Aaron to pick me up from my hotel, take me across the border, and return me home after the surgery. Aaron has a fascinating life story, and was a treat to talk to on the way there and back. I have read all about the cartel and violence in Mexico, but never once did I feel unsafe. I have previously lived in southern Texas, and traveled extensively around the border, as well as been in various parts of mexico, which possibly made me feel more comfortable than someone without those experiences. I arrived at Nader Medical around 8:30 am, filled out a little paperwork, then proceeded to sit down with Dr. Nader and talk all about my hairloss journey, life, what I wanted, etc. It was a wonderful convo and lasted well over an hour. I wanted a conservative hairline that I could age into well, and my crown addressed. (I started finasteride a month prior to this with zero side effects). We drew multiple hairlines before we got it right. I might add that the facility was very clean, and had a very professional staff of maybe 5 techs. My zones were drawn, head shaved down further, and on to the extraction table for a few hours. They injected lidocaine into my donor area repeatedly, which feels like minor pinches, nothing to worry about. My head was completely numb, and they went to work. After that I was served lunch, with the options being tacos or a chicken salad. I chose the salad and it was very good. From here we moved onto placing the grafts while I watched netflix. I think it took around 3 hours, but I wasn't really keeping track of time, just relaxing and enjoying some netflix. I felt zero pain during this part of my procedure as well. From there I was cleaned up by the tech's, followed by some questions for the Dr, and talk of after care. I literally have zero complaints about my whole experience. I could not have been happier with Dr. Nader, his staff, and his work. I got a picture with the Dr, gave him a hug, and thanked him for everything. He gave me his personal number and we will continue to remain in contact. For those that care, Dr. Nader attended school in the US and Mexico, and speaks perfect english. The driver then took me across the boarder and back to my hotel (zero issues). I purchased a neck pillow prior to this surgery in anticipation for sleeping. It took me a little to find a good position, but eventually I was able to find a comfortable position and actually got some good sleep. I woke up this morning feeling great about my choice to go with Nader. Going through a hair transplant can be an emotional roller coaster, but I felt nothing but happiness and relief. Details of surgery- Total grafts- 2520 Hairline- 1290 Grafts Crown- 1230 Grafts Singles- 221 Doubles- 909 Triples- 1208 4's-217 (Dr noted I had a very good donor area with a bank of 7,000 or so, also commenting on the unusual amount of double and triple grafts I have. People who have cut my hair have always noted how crazy thick the back and sides of my hair are. I guess this finally came in handy! ha Cost- Total Cost was $5,445 US. I used the option for 10% off by bringing a cashiers check for the majority of the cost. Nader will reimburse you for a 2 night hotel stay of up to $250. I'm open to any and all questions, and will eventually post pictures. Thank you to all of you for posting your experiences, it got me through some dark times knowing I wasn't alone. Also thank you to Melvin. I think this guy is awesome. His story, transparency, kindness, and tireless work in this hairloss field has been awesome. I remember being in a very dark place over my hairloss a year or so ago, watching some videos by Melvin, and feeling like there was hope.
  15. After a virtual consultation and quote of 1500 grafts for frontal hairline repair, underwent said 1500 FUE graft repair with Dr. Nadimi of Chicago Hair Institute. I'm in my mid 20's and as such wanted to be somewhat conservative with hairline but also wished to avoid placement so high as to draw attention. Investigating led me to Chicago Hair Institute, and Dr. Nadimi has had a growing record of excellence and of course Dr. Konior and his practice have for many years had an outstanding reputation. The procedure went smoothly, pain was well controlled following anesthetic injections and staff was friendly and supportive. They are more than happy to follow up with you on subsequent days for cleaning, re-evaluation. I've attached several photos pre and immediately post op. Obviously like any young person I'd have preferred a lower hairline, but being realistic is part of the game. Anyone out there with similar graft counts and post-op pictures/hairline design have their long term results? Picture are: 1/2/3 - pre-op of hairline 4/5/6 - Immediately post-op
  16. Of that list, Wong is the only doctor I would consider. Konior sounds great but I can't swallow his prices, even if I can afford it.
  17. Interesting rankings. Konior/Nadhimi should be higher but im interested to see what everyone says here.
  18. Hi all, I have a deposit with Dr. Konior but I am close to a year out. I am closer to Dr. Gabel geographically which makes driving possible and follow ups easier. I also like Dr. Gabel and his approach and the sense of personal attention. (I am sure that is true of Konior as well but being a year out there has not been much interaction other than securing the date). From research I know both are great and Gabel trained under Konior but wanted to just get the thoughts of others on this forum. Money is no issue for such a critical procedure nor is travel if it makes a difference on quality but I am not sure it does at this point. It would be nice to get started without waiting a year. I am between a norwood 3 and 4 with thinner hair overall so naturalness is my top priority. Both surgeons say they can get about 3000 in my first session and will focus on reestablishing my hairline and then subsequent sessions will focus on crown etc. Would value any feedback from this group. Thanks!
  19. Hey everyone, I'm about two days out from my ~2300 graft FUT procedure with Dr. Konior. As often happens with Konior, he initially quoted me 1500 grafts but wound up going all the way up to 2300 to pack everything in more densely. It was one of the smoothest and most painless medical experiences of my life, and the whole thing took about 12 hours. I'd take a hair transplant over getting cavities filled at the dentist any day. I'd like to start by thanking the past Konior patients who have documented their procedures so thoroughly. Spanker, Reyes1, SamSpade, and the various Matts (among others) posted incredibly detailed threads that helped make my choice of surgeon very easy. I hope that I can continue in their tradition with another well documented write-up. Pre Surgery I was 28 and probably a NW2.5 or 3 prior to this surgery, and my main goal was to restore my receded hairline and fill in the temples. I've been on finasteride and minoxidil for several years and they've definitely slowed things down, but there are a few spots that have slowly continued to thin (including in back...but it looks worse in one of the below photos than it really is). I plan to continue both meds for the rest of my life, and will likely have additional "tune up" surgeries down the line to maintain what I have. Dr. Konior actually suggested a low dose pill version of minoxidil for those who find the application of Rogaine to be tedious (I only apply the foam once per night because it's such a pain in the ass). I spent months reading about hair transplants and researching doctors until I finally narrowed it down to Konior, Rahal, and Hasson (I had already decided to stay within North America). There's no question that all three are hairline masters, but there were a few things that stood out about Konior that steered me in his direction: 1. His relative conservatism and focus on long term strategy would be a great check on my own desire to be as aggressive as possible. 2. If you look at his cases, it's pretty clear that he is often able to do with 1500 grafts what most surgeons need 2500 or even 3000 grafts to achieve. Konior's ability to make every graft count really speaks to his artistry and perfectionism, which is of course another big advantage for young patients like me who need to use every single graft very judiciously. 3. He performs one surgery a day and as others have pointed out, does virtually the entire surgery himself -- donor extraction, lateral slit incisions, and graft placement. I do think one or two of his techs placed some of the grafts, but he supervised them meticulously and I overheard him tweaking anything that didn't look perfect. This isn't to say that technician-heavy clinics are inherently flawed -- many techs at other clinics have years of experience and are truly skilled workers -- but ultimately, I felt that a tech-heavy approach would add another level of risk that I'd prefer to do without. 4. Konior's year long wait list and relatively high price speak volumes, especially since he does minimal marketing and is pretty selective when taking on new patients. These things may seem like "cons" at first glance, but over time I came to see them as major "pros." A hair transplant is something that will affect your appearance for the rest of your life, and I knew that 10, 20, or 30 years from now I'd care a lot more about having picked the right hairline than saving a few thousand dollars. More often than not, you get what you pay for -- and plastic surgery is not an industry where you want to look for a bargain. 5. Konior's immediate post op photos have a really clean and distinctive look, with very little blood compared to most other surgeons' graft zones after surgery. I've always found it very satisfying to look at his post op photos and notice the precision of the graft angles and placement. The Surgery One thing that isn't often discussed on here is the feeling of oh shit that kicks in as your surgery date approaches. As soon as I realized my surgery was a month away, the reality of the situation hit me hard: was I seriously about to fly to Chicago and undergo surgery just to give myself better hair? Eventually the excitement started to outweigh the fear, but it was for sure an emotional rollercoaster until I finally arrived at Konior's office at 6:30 AM. Once I checked in with the doctor's staff, I finished my paperwork and wrote down my lunch order. Everyone was very kind and conscientious, and at around 7 the doctor came in to discuss the surgical plan. As Dr. Konior and I settled into our initial conversation, I immediately felt my anxiety begin to fade. He really took his time to discuss his hair loss philosophy, crack a few jokes, and field a few questions that I had. He seemed totally relaxed and in no hurry to push things along, and by the time we moved on to drawing the hairline I felt totally at ease. Helping a patient feel comfortable during that first meeting is a genuine, underrated skill and it really helped to set the tone for the entire day. He then had me draw my version of a hairline -- I wanted it lowered just a bit with my temples filled in, and I asked him to pack it as "densely as he thought would be ethical". Konior took one look at the hairline I drew and said something like, "yep, I know what you want" as though he'd seen it a million times before. He then spent about 45 minutes drawing his own version of the hairline, erasing and re-drawing parts of it over and over again until he thought it was perfect. He took pictures from several different angles while doing so, and every now and then he'd pause to stare at my hairline the way a painter looks at his work while trying to get those last brush strokes just right. It was easy to see how Konior's artistry and surgical precision are a super effective combination. When the doctor handed me a mirror to look at his proposed hairline, I was ecstatic (the hairline he drew is visible in the pics I've attached). I had worried that he'd push for something more conservative, but what he drew turned out to be pretty much exactly what I'd hoped for. So I basically told him I wouldn't change a thing and the process continued. I felt even more relief when I learned that he would only have to shave a small portion of my existing hair to create the new hairline. I've seen a lot of Konior cases where patients went for the full shave, and I really hoped I wouldn't have to go down that route and thus experience a much longer "ugly duckling" phase. When he wound up just shaving a few useless miniaturized hairs in front, I felt pretty confident that in another week or two I'd be able to cover up the work without wearing a hat. As someone who wanted to get back to work and my social life as soon as possible, this was a HUGE weight off my shoulders. With my last major fear assuaged, I was genuinely excited to get started. They gave me some valium and had me lay face down while the doctor got ready to remove the strip. I have a pretty low pain tolerance and a very strong fear of needles, but I have to say that the numbing shots were the least painful shots I have ever experienced. They used some sort of vibrating device on my skin next to the injections, which made the actual shots feel like nothing. I barely noticed when the strip actually came out, and then they gave me a bathroom break and got ready to start the incisions. I was given more valium throughout the day and for the most part I felt restful but awake. I dozed off a couple times and woke back up mid-snore, but for the most part I just chilled out and focused on staying perfectly still while Konior and his techs did their thing. Occasionally I'd feel some soreness in back and they'd have to re-numb me -- the re-numbing shots were actually a little more painful, but that's probably because I waited too long to ask for them (the doctor was really in the zone so I was hesitant to interrupt). As mentioned earlier, he did have two techs present during graft placement but I'm pretty sure he placed most of them himself while the techs would pass him the grafts that had been dissected. It definitely sounded like he placed the most important grafts himself, such as the 1s along the hairline. At around 6:30 PM, the surgery was finally complete. Konior and his team put in roughly a 12 hour day in total: 2 hours of conversation and planning the hairline, followed by 10 hours of performing the surgery itself. Compared to what I was expecting, the entire day felt like a series of best case scenarios -- I got exactly the hairline I wanted, felt close to no pain whatsoever, and was able to keep enough existing hair to (hopefully) cover up the procedure after another week or two. Konior's staff was nice enough to give me a ride to the Comfort Suites that evening, which I really appreciated because I was not looking forward to interacting with strangers in my post surgical state. In fact, I didn't end up having to interact with anyone -- the Comfort Suites have a back entrance you can open with your room key, and my room was right next to the back door. So yet another small anxiety was eliminated. I don't think I could have asked for a better experience. Immediate post op pics are below (I circled a small mole in the final pic for added perspective):
  20. Yeah, unless you earn 300k a year or something similar, I don't see how it's justifiable considering there are so many amazing options that you really can't even argue are particularly inferior to Konior for 1/3, even 1/4 of that price! I'm paying the equivalent of 3USD per graft - 17 is crazy!
  21. Email response from konior. Wow that's almost $17 per graft
  22. I guess I should provide an update, since I’ve lurked on here for years… I visited Oakbrook late last month for a hair transplant with Dr. Konior and his staff. My experience was similar if not exactly the same to everyone else’s that has been mentioned in these forums. I stayed in the Comfort Suites hotel, it was fine and convenient. Dr. Konior and his staff have been nothing but consummate professionals throughout my transplant and during follow up appointments I imagined that my grafts would only have spanned my frontal third, but I was very satisfied to realize after surgery that Dr. Konior graciously went above and beyond the call of duty, giving me significantly more grafts than I bargained for, and covering way more real estate that I ever imagined for my first surgery. I sadly woke up on day 3 realizing that I dislodged some grafts in my sleep, which was pretty gruesome and left me pretty upset at first, but I was assured that this sometimes happens and a few lost grafts won’t impact my final result. I didn’t document the “before” very well, but I’ll attach a picture of where I am now - day 9, crusts falling out, and very satisfied with a densely packed frontal third, fading back to my crown that has some coverage on it. I am very ready for my sutures to come out, but Tylenol PM before bed is helping me out. I still look in the mirror sort of shocked that there’s now hair existing in places where it hasn’t been since I was a teenager. And even with a few lost grafts in the beginning, I’m very confident that I went to the right place, and the right doctor, and I’m very much looking forward to seeing how this will turn out.
  23. Ok so below are some pics from the past couple months. I honestly didn't notice any improvements after month 7 (it's 9.5 now) but I also wasn't crazy about taking pictures regularly in the same conditions. As I noted above some days my hair (i.e. the hairline) looks better than others which makes it even harder to track the progress. So to me it's all the same hair, it just depends on the lighting and in some cases the hair is a little longer. I don't usually have my hair a little longer and pulled back like in the two pics below but honestly that seem to be a good idea to increase the appearance of density. This one below is from a little further away where you don't look at the hairline directly. This one is straight out of a shower with the direct light source THE BAD LIGHTNING As I said some lights are bad, and the picture below is I believe as bad as it gets, it's the only picture that I have (and I took a lot) where you can see my scalp. It also sucks as it's from a museum and I wanted to have that moment saved and posted online but the museum creators decided to use some really nasty lightning. THE DONOR Another bad part. I don't like the donor and I think it didn't recover, I still have two patchy areas on one side. It's not really that obvious and I observed other people and my pictures from before and the hair is never perfectly distributed in the donor area when cut at 0.5/1/1.5. My guy does 0.5 (or 1) on the sides/back and honestly it looks better at 0.5 compared to 1.5 since I guess there is some miniaturization in those two patchy areas that becomes more obvious when the hair grows out a little. Since Konior did a great job there's no scars so I can cut the hair short but let's see how it goes with the recovery down the line. I am not worried right now, but if I want to do more operations later (and I'll probably want to given that I am not on Fin) it might become an issue. Overall I am happy with the results and if it gets better I am not going to complain but if it doesn't I am not going to complain either. Hope this was a useful update!
  24. Do you think I would have a noticeable difference in result going to konior vs Freitas?
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