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  1. Hello everyone, thanks for letting me join this forum. A lot of important and valuable information for anyone regarding hair loss! My main question is, when comparing Dorin to True is one better then the other? When looking at before and after almost all are done by Robert Dorin. Who is, an amazing and skilled surgeon who constantly provides great results and has a consistent track record. However, I can’t find much of True here or on the website. A lot of the post op photos Dorin and True post on their website are what Dorin surgically does and posts here so that’s how I distinguish them. My main concern is, does it really matter between the two if I had to choose? I know everyone on this website reiterates “do it right or don’t do it all”. Thank you for your help. 23, Norwood 2, no thinning and in propecia.
  2. Hi everyone, I am writing to share my experience having an 1852 graft FUE with Dr. Dorin in New York. I have been helped so much by this forum, and I hope a thorough post can help someone else. The basics: I am a 40 year old man, Norwood 3V with likely progression to 5A if nature ran its course. I use Rogaine twice per day and have recently completed 3 treatments of PRP (with pronox which makes you loopy and indifferent to the scalp stabbings). I am not currently on finasteride but considering it along with switching to oral minoxidil. The plan: After a consultation with Dr. True, we planned for a 1500-1600 graft FUE focused on the front. Dr. Dorin would perform the surgery. Why I chose them: I had consultations with several other clinics. They were not good. One clinic bragged about their celebrity patients, only to reveal you, regular citizen, can't get the celebrity doctor. Another showed before and after pics that looked more like they had expertly adjusted the lighting than the patient's hairline. But from the very first conversation, True and Dorin were everything I was looking for: experts in both science and art with tremendous kindness. Oh, and one other selling point. I am scared of needles, despise needles, and also, to be honest with you, I'm not crazy about needles. But True and Dorin use a device called the CompuMed Wand that greatly lessens the pain of local anesthesia. Really? I asked three or four annoying times. Sign me up. Before the procedure: I had a lot questions and the staff at True and Dorin answered every one, no matter how small, very quickly and patiently. Want to jump on the phone? No problem. Talk to the doctor? Does tomorrow work? The morning of the procedure, they asked me to wash my head with Hibiclens, eat breakfast, and avoid coffee. They send an easy-to-follow list of instructions and call you to see if you have any questions for them. I had a prescription for Valium, and took a small dose (1mg) around 6:30am, an hour before we were set to start. I took another 1mg when I arrived, which I know is far less than most take (5mg to 10mg). The procedure: I got to the office at 7:30am, and the first thing that happened is Peter, a primary contact at the practice, took my before pictures. I didn't realize how emotional that moment would be. Sitting on that stool, I thought of all the times I'd shrink away from and dodge cameras, how many photos I am not a part of, how many memories I won't be seen in because I didn't want to see myself. Now, here I was, having one of the last pictures of me taken looking like that. Each flash made me smile—probably the first time I'd smiled in a photo in years. Too bad for the mask. Then, Dr. Dorin walks in and draws the hairline. He hands me a mirror. I think about this scene in the first Tim Burton Batman, when Jack Nicholson's Joker demands a mirror from his doctor after falling into acid. This wasn't that. To have one of the best in the world draw what he's going to do to help me, I felt a rush of gratitude. It's hokey, sure, but how many times do you know your life is about to change? But I do start to fear what will happen next, which are the dreaded numbing injections to the donor area. I lie face down on what I learn is a new chair, and a very comfortable one at that, and turn my head on my left ear. I hear Dr. Dorin turn on the machine and then...oh God...here it comes...it's...it's...not that bad. Then, Dr. Dorin's nurse, Rita, took over. She is hilarious and warm and the type of person you wish some scientist would clone so there would be more goodness in the world. Sure, the injections weren't my idea of a good time. And they did take a while. But, fellow needle phobes and haters, I promise you, they were easy. Halfway through, my anxiety went down making room for my excitement to go up. Soon, my head felt like a heavy helmet and Dr. Dorin began the extraction. He has great taste in music, so it was Sade radio as I felt a little pressure and heard the instrument whirling out grafts. They were initially aiming for 1500-1600, but we went for 1852. Awesome. The count in the end was 403 singles, 1121 doubles, and 328 triples. Then, Rita numbed the hairline. Now on my back, but lying down, she encouraged me to focus on my breathing, relax my shoulders and arms, and go somewhere else in my mind. That probably for normal people means a happy place like a beach or somewhere with burgers and beer, but I kept reflecting on how sad I had been, how many self-conscious moments I had had, how those days were numbered. During this time, I mentioned to Rita that I was hungry. Dr. Dorin walked in with the food I brought, asked me how long I wanted him to heat it up, and then brought me back my lunch. Yes, one of the world's leading hair transplant surgeons didn't tell me to wait until Rita was done, didn't order someone else to do it, but went and microwaved my food himself to help me. After the lunch break, Dr. Dorin made the incisions. He never dumbs down anything, which I love, but when he explained his technique I didn't understand enough to repeat it here. Between the crunching sound and Dr. Dorin counting to one hundred repeatedly, I fell asleep pretty quickly. But before dozing off, I also had blood drawn for PRP with ACell. I know that PRP is controversial on this forum. Go ahead, I know someone is going to say I set my money on fire. But there is a study that shows reduced loss of the transplanted grafts (at one month, 60% of the patients in the PRP group had greater than 75% density in comparison to none in non-PRP group) and all subjects in the study had greater than 75% hair regrowth at the six month mark. And while Dr. Dorin does not make guarantees, he has posted on this forum some success with PRP during the FUE. I figured it was worth a shot. The hardest part for me was lying still when they implanted the grafts. I was able to watch Netflix, but something about telling me not to move at all makes my leg itch, my shoulder ache, and my feet determined to flop. While trying to do the hard work of keeping still, Dr. Dorin walked into the room and asked if I was cold. I was. He grabbed a blanket, put it over me, and made sure it covered my arms and feet. Look, lots of people can learn science. But I am sharing these moments so you know how compassionate and detail-oriented Dr. Dorin and his team are. I only wish I could remember more of the team's names (there was Lisa, Angela, Marcia, Yanilda, but I know and regret I am forgetting some). They all had the same caregiving approach. The entire process was over at 4:30, and Peter took final pictures. I excused myself to the bathroom for a chance to stare at my hairline. What a difference a day makes. They went over the post-op care. I got a bottle of Liposomal ATP to spray on the grafts and donor every hour, a surgical sponge to blot on the grafts when washing, and a cover for my pillow. They also gave me two Tylenol which was all the pain medication I had to take. Dr. Dorin showed me how to put on my baseball hat so it doesn't touch the grafts, and they warned me to watch my head getting into a cab. (Since it is numb, I might not judge space the same way and bump it, knocking out some fragile grafts.) I was starving and went home and ate a lot of sushi. Follow-up: The next day, I went to the practice at 9am and they cleaned my head and answered some more questions. Dr. Dorin took a close look. We talked about finasteride and he wrote me a low-dose prescription. I am still on the fence and the more I read the less clear I am. I have an appointment with my PCP this afternoon to get her opinion. I bought a 45 degree pillow, and wrapped a hoodie around my neck in place of the travel pillow I should have also purchased. Sleeping has been rough. But there has been zero pain and the redness is already starting to go away, though there's a bit of swelling developing on my forehead. And sure, it isn't an on-off switch. But now I can look in the mirror and not focus on what's getting worse but what's going to get better. Pics: Okay, okay, here are some pictures.
  3. Hi! I met with several clinics virtually. Mostly All from the restoration recommend physician portal on this website. 1/4 had 1 year wait times and were also beyond expensive which was out of my view. Other 3:4 were Hasson and Wong, feller, dorin, true, Konior, erdogan, motion clinic, asme clinic, dr diep, Lindsey. Lindsey and Konior said my hairline wasn’t bad and didn’t really need surgery but PRP and increased dose propecia. The rest all recommended grafts ranging from 800-2k. I narrowed it down to couple clinics who gave me the same grafts, hence why I’m looking at dorin. my age is definitely young for a HT, but with propecia, minoxidil I could prolong it for several years. My hairline from 20-23 hasn’t changed.
  4. Hi sir, I have! I’ve always had a high genetic hairline with a big widow peek. I showed doctor child pictures of me. Unlucky, I’m also receding so it’s not helping. I talked to dorin he’s great, but true is the soonest surgery date. I’m just wondering if it really matters between the two. Because he’s semi retired, he still puts his all right?
  5. I had a consult with Dr. Dorin earlier this year. Really nice down to earth guy.
  6. So nice of you to ask…what some folks may not be aware of is that Dr. True has semi-retired and why you are recently seeing more examples of Dr. Dorin’s work. And thank you for the kind words and admonished respect for their work and surgical talents.
  7. There are several Drs recommended on this site who are located in NY which should be approximately a 4 hour trip from Boston by either car, train, or bus. True & Dorin have an office in Boston with very limited hours (I think one day a week) where they do consultations and follow up, so you could do an in-person consultation in Boston and then schedule the hair transplant at the main office in NY.
  8. Drs recommended here who perform hair transplants without requiring the recipient area to be shaved include: Dr Robert Dorin (True & Dorin) Dr Robert Bernstein (Bernstein Medical) Dr Bernardino Arocha (Arocha Hair Restoration) Dr Carlos Wesley There may be others, but these are the ones I know of.
  9. Getting a 1800-2000 graft FUT on Tues June 1 with Dr. Dorin. I was supposed to participate in a 45-60 min Memorial Day wknd race on Sat but it has been postponed to Monday (day before surgery). Dorin website says to stop exercising 3 days before surgery. What is the reasoning behind this 3 day window and what are the risks to my surgery if I participate in the race on Monday? Thanks!
  10. Have you consulted with any other top docs in New York? Bloxham, True and Dorin, Wesley to name a few?
  11. You say Tru and Dorin is expensive for body hair... Like $10/graft Is beard hair same as body hair?
  12. Dr. Dorin followed-up with this FUE patient after 4 1/2 months post-op 1652 grafts. Typically we see new growth anywhere from 2 - 6 months, so at this stage a bit ahead of the game in terms of length and uniformity. Breakdown: 357 singles, 1061 double, 234 threes. Bio-adjuncts: PRP & Liposomal ATP
  13. True & Dorin is expensive for body hair FUE, but if you are only filling in that small area in the front then it's probably not worth flying to another country just to get a few hundred grafts. With the cost of the flight and hotel it will probably cost you more to travel than to get it done in NY. Also I think you may be fine with using beard hair if you stay just behind the current hairline that you have. I part my hair on the side through all beard and chest grafts and I don't see an issue.
  14. I used true and Dorin for my first 2 FUT sugieres.. 👍. Just found out recently they do beard FUE. You waited over a year for Eugenix??? So, you got an appt date set up?
  15. True and Dorin are excellent ! Very long proven track record. I am happy to wait for Eugenix, already waited over a year 😂
  16. So you're un the same boat as me. I hear Eugenix is really good.... Good luck with that of you decide to go thru with it. There's another doctor in nyc that I'm going to set a consultation. Tru and Dorin.
  17. I see you listed Dr Robert Dorin as a supporting physician... He does beard fue to scalp. I'm going to set up an consultation appt with him to see my options with beard fue. .
  18. Month 1 The first seven days: Just my luck, I experienced all of the side effects of a hair transplant right away: I wouldn't shut up to my friends and family that it's the best money I ever spent, couldn't stop looking in the mirror, and daydreamed about the future constantly. Oh, and swelling. I was determined to follow all the rules that True & Dorin give: I sprayed my grafts and donor with Liposomal ATP solution every hour, even waking up in the middle of night; shampooed with baby shampoo and a surgical sponge (up and down, in a blotting motion on the grafts); slept with a 45 degree-angled pillow with an increasingly crime scene worthy sheet (white is probably not the wisest choice); and even applied ice to my forehead a few times a day, doing that brushing to the side motion with my fingertips. Even so, by day three, whatever that is started to slide down my forehead to eyebrows. And there is was: day four and five, it pooled in the corners of my eyes. Other than make me look like I ran face-first into a pissed-off beehive, though, I didn't have any pain, no difficulty seeing, and it went somewhere in a day. I was stunned at how fast the donor healed. By day seven, I don't think you could tell that 1852 grafts were plucked out of the back and sides of my scalp, unless you knew just what to look for. The grafts during this time gave a nice preview—though knowing the shedding to come, I couldn't help but feel like I was a kid getting to play with a kickass Christmas present for a few days, only to have my parents say, "you'll get this back next year." Days 7-17 On day 7, I started washing my hair in a full-strength shower again. From days 1-6, the routine was to mix baby shampoo in water and pour over my head, blotting the grafts with a surgical sponge that had antibacterial soap in it. Now, the routine switched to a normal shower, but applying the baby shampoo in a gentle, circular motion on the grafts to help the scabs fall away. The hardest part of the first ten days were waiting to work out again. I know that I'm not alone with dedication to the gym. Here's what helped me. Fitness youtuber Mike Thurston, who has done a few videos about his FUE, also posted a video about preventing muscle loss when you can't work out (and he was specifically referring to his hair transplant downtime). I don't know about you, but if I miss a single workout I irrationally but absolutely feel like I am three sizes smaller. Thurston's video was super helpful and reassuring to me. I went back to the gym on day 10, which is the only place that I don't wear a hat. (I was advised no hat for 30 days after the transplant.) By day 11, the sides and back had grown in quite a bit. Even so, my hair was three different lengths and almost certainly looked crazy...but, who cares? Post-HT confidence is a helluva drug. Along the way, I had some questions for Peter—should I keep using the ATP spray until the bottle is empty (yes) and do I need to wait until the scabs are off to apply Rogaine (just wait seven days after the procedure)—and, as usual, he got back to me right away. On day 14, my phone rang and it was Dr. Dorin, calling to check in on how I was doing. What an unexpected, cool, kind gesture. We spoke for a few minutes and certainly could have talked for longer—Dr. Dorin never makes you feel like he is in a rush and you always feel you have his entire attention. The day of the surgery, we ended up taking the elevator downstairs together at the end of the day. He said to me that he aims to treat his patient as he would treat his father. That type of sincere care shines through even in these brief exchanges. Is it weird to already be excited about my next hair transplant with Dr. Dorin? Day 17-30 The shedding begins. Yes, I confess I was praying to the gods for a hair transplant miracle. But the shedding hath not passeth me by. This is one of many areas where this forum has been so incredibly helpful. Reading posts of others who have been here, gone through this, and reached excellent results has set me at ease more than once. I hope I can write up my own journey, so that, if you are reading this in a few months or years, you can take a deep breath, too. (I am taking pictures every day and will put them together at some point into an easy-to-flip through format.) Look: it sucks. Especially if you are single (and vaccinated) and ready to mingle. The shedding has, thus far, been mostly on the right side and some from the center. For whatever reason, the left is hanging on a bit more. Frankly, I wish they'd just hurry up and vanish already, so we can get going on—and get over with—this ugly ducking phase. Fortunately, if you stare closely and intensely enough at every budding hair, they grow faster. Right? Right? No? Well...I'm going to try anyway. Pics!
  19. I’ve booked my HT with Dr. Dorin for Dec 2020. To say I’m Nervous, is an understatement. I lurk all sorts of forums. Today, I felt it was time to start my process/progress with some help. Hopefully, this will help others and possibly myself along the way. Treatment: topical finasteride and minoxidil blend from Murray Ave Appothecary Currently I’m a stage 3v-4. Leaning 4. My goal is to improve hairline and thicken front/middle through the forelock. Dr. Dorin says that he feels a 1200-1400 graft transplant will be suitable for me. After all my searching on here, I’m calling BS. I feel like I easily need 1600-1900. I’m very hopeful he’s the right fit for my situation and takes good care of me. thoughts? Advice? Yes I have money down already.
  20. This female patient presented with hairline erosion and temporal thinning. Dr. Dorin performed an FUT consisting of 2549 follicular units - a total of 4518 hairs transplanted. Bio-adjunts used were PRP & Liposomal ATP. www.hairlossdoctors.com
  21. Hello all. This is my first post. This forum has been invaluable to learning about hair transplants. Based on hours of research I am leaning heavily towards an FUT procedure at one of two New York clinics (True and Dorin or Feller & Bloxham). My biggest fear around FUT procedure is the linear scar. I wear my hair short and keep the sides trimmed at a #2 to #3. I am willing to go a few month with my hair longer to conceal a scar when it's still immature and fresh. But at the 8 to 12 month mark I would like to have a scar that is canceled by at least a #3 cut on the sides and back. Attached is an image of me with a #3.5 cut. Ideally I would like to keep my hair this length. Has anyone here had an FUT and kept their hair short and tight on the sides? Are these kinds of hair styles off the table? Any opinions and experiences would be helpful.
  22. Hello

    I have had 3 transplants in total my last 2 with Dr. Dorin. After my 1st transplant with Dr. Dorin I began applying topical minoxidil. I recently had my 2nd transplant with Dr. dorin and are experiencing more shock loss than my first Dorin transplant.

    I am nervous that I may be shedding my previously transplanted hair and am concerned that if that is the case the prior transplanted hairs will not grow back.

    Any comment on this?

    Appreciate any feedback you can provide. 

    Do you think I should just stop minoxidil??

    1. Melvin- Moderator

      Melvin- Moderator

      Can you share some pictures?

  23. Hey all, I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I love this site! I've been doing so much research over the last few months on surgeons, procedures, everything. Very excited to say I booked a procedure with True and Dorin in NYC for September 19th. It's only for 1800-2000 grafts but I'm planning on doing a follow up FUT procedure of another 1800-2000 8 months after the first to increase density. He said my lifetime donor supply is only 5500-6000, and I'm between a Norwood 3V to 4 with likely progression to 5/6 over lifetime. Sadly the crown won't be completely covered, but I'm considered scalp micropigmentation to give the illusion of density on the crown, and possibly to improve appearance of scar. I also decided to add PRP to the procedure, because Dr. Dorin said due to my fair skin it is likely that I will have redness in implant site after procedure and PRP might reduce redness time and increase time for new hairs to grow (I figure it can't hurt). For some background, I've been taking finasteride for 1 year (one of the lucky ones with no sides) and Rogaine foam for 1 year as well. Sorry for looking like biggest creeper ever in photo, but it's the only one I have with the hairline lines that I snapped quickly in the office. I'm going for lower hairline in the picture, and Dr. Dorin is going to build some small temples on the side of my head so that the lower hairline looks natural. If anyone is or knows a recent patient of Dr. Dorin please feel free to reach out! Will document more in this thread after I have the procedure.
  24. Hi all, I'm deciding between the two. Have met with both and outlined a lot of details from them as well as from other reviews I've read. Trying to make the final decision. Would you mind posting who you went to (of these 2), your experience, and please your before & after pictures? I'd like to have a run down to look at and it would help so much. Thanks in advance everybody, I appreciate it
  25. This patient mid-20s underwent FUE hair restoration to address hairline recession and frontal erosion. 2723 grafts were extracted and transplanted over two sessions. As with many of our younger patients, we initiated medical therapy as well at the onset of his transplant journey. He has seen stabilization in the top/crown and is enjoying the transplant result in the frontal region. Bio-adjuncts PRP used intraoperatively and liposomal atp spray post-operatively.
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