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  1. Patient’s details: Sex: Male Age: 45 years old Hair characteristics: Grey, straight and medium thickness hair. Level of alopecia: Norwood III Surgical plan: Hairline, receding hairline and central area restoration, in 2 days of intervention. Grafts breakdown: 1 Grafts - 363 = 363 Hairs. 2 Grafts - 1033 = 2066 Hairs. 3 Grafts - 1537 = 4611 Hairs. 4 Grafts - 356 = 1424 Hairs. Total: 3.289 Grafts = 8.464 Hairs. Average: de 2,57 Hairs / Graft. Post-Op treatment: Individualized treatment to stabilize alopecia. BEFORE DESIGN PLACEMENT 12 MONTHS LATER COMPARATIVES VIDEO We hope it is of your interest. Have a nice weekend!
  2. Considering you can get De Freitas for about $4/graft, it's hard to justify these US prices.
  3. Patient’s details: Sex: Male Age: 38 years old Hair characteristics: Brown, straight and medium thickness hair. Level of alopecia: NW IV - Diffuse Surgical plan: Hairline, receding hairline, central area and crown restoration, in 2 days of intervention. Grafts breakdown: 1 Grafts - 333 = 333 Hairs. 2 Grafts - 976 = 1952 Hairs. 3 Grafts - 1489 = 4467 Hairs. 4 Grafts - 363 = 1452 Hairs. Total: 3161 Grafts = 8204 Hairs. Average: de 2,59 Hairs / Graft. Post-Op treatment: Individualized treatment to stabilize alopecia. Before Design Placement 12 Months later Wet hair Comparatives Video Kind regards to all members!
  4. My first response from Freitas was that he's not able to do a surgery on me because of the density of my donor hair. I find this strange because diep, hw, couto, konior all recommended 1500-2250 grafts for my surgery. Hw estimated I have upward of the high 2000s to 3000 grafts left. The pic I sent Freitas does have my head faded so it's hard to tell the density so I sent him some more with it less faded. For example here is a screenshot of my head when I had it grown out.
  5. I am getting back on this forum because it is getting closer to the time that I will be ready to pick and schedule my next transplant. I am sure a lot of you recognize me here is a link to my previous main thread. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52580-dr-koray-erdogan-5000-grafts/ I am currently favoring Dr. Diep for my 3rd surgery because I have seen a lot of high yield results from him and he uploads good results to YouTube every weekend. I'm wanting to get back in here and see what other well established top surgeons people are talking about with the best track records of high yield reliable surgeries with consistency. I'm not really concerned with cost as I am willing to go to diep which charges $8 per graft. I simply want to optimize my chances at a great result with high yield while being conscious of my remaining donor area. Who are the best surgeons as of late that people are talking about? Is it still the usual? Diep, h&w, Freitas,... I only want FUE
  6. Ultimately you're going to have to go in for an in person evaluation, so they can accurately determine how many grafts you have remaining. Remember, this number will vary between surgeon to surgeon, as some are more conservative by nature, others more aggressive - some with higher capability, others with potentially less. Don't feel too hard up about that response from De Freitas - it was only from a photo, and if you explained your back story over email, as was mentioned by Egy, he might just not fancy the hassle.
  7. Don’t worry, if H & w told you you still have 2000 to 3000 grafts, that will be. At this point, I doubt that De Freitas likes to win easy, if he refuses the more complicated cases, considering the fact, that as already mentioned by someone, few real cases on HRN, but only those published by the clinic .
  8. Patient’s details: Sex: Male Age: 48 years old Hair characteristics: Light brown, straight and medium thickness hair. Level of alopecia: NW IV - Diffuse Surgical plan: Hairline restoration, in 2 days of intervention. Grafts breakdown: x1 Grafts - 467 = 467 Hairs. x2 Grafts - 1387 = 2774 Hairs. x3 Grafts - 812 = 2436 Hairs. x4 Grafts - 93 = 372 Hairs. Total: 2.759 Grafts = 6.049 Hairs. Average: de 2,19 Hairs / Graft. Post-Op treatment: Individualized treatment to stabilize alopecia. Before Design Placement 12 Months later Wet hair Comparatives Video Kind greetings to all forum members.
  9. Hello all, First I want to thank you all that contribute to making this forum encouraging for lurkers like me. I am 43 years old and my hair loss has been consistent for 15 years but comes in phases. The most recent of which since April has been the most noticeable in my crown and midsection of the head. I tried propecia but it gave me ED and rogaine made my scalp itch. I intend to do as many HTs I can, subject to donor limitations. I want to fill in my crown which has been getting worse over the course of the year as well as create a denser hairline. 2500 - 3000 grafts seem to be what most doctors recommended, with 2000 just for the front. I was considering a HT in the US earlier in the year with Konior, but he had a long waitlist. Then I had to move back to London for most of the year and probably another 6 months, so I want to pull the trigger on a HT whilst I am in Europe. Many friends on this side of the pond and in Germany are recommending Turkey. I am sure there are probably some excellent doctors but I have heard so many horror stories there. I like the work I have seen by Dr. Freitas or Dr. Ferreira. How would you rate them and are there any others in western Europe anyone recommends highly. Couto looks good but the waitlist is in the years, I want to be done ASAP. Appreciate all your comments and suggestions. Thanks! BTW I remember seeing a chart on one of the topic discussions where someone had posted a table with the best doctors and their techniques and prices. Anyone know where that is? please?
  10. I think that OP turned this topic from the topic "the best clinic for $ 5 FUE" into the topic "moral aspects of HT business", economics vs aesthetics, etc., etc. , instead of thread about looking for a right clinic. I suggest about such topic, the moral aspects of HT business, etc. to open a new topic where you will write about it, otherwise this your thread will lose its meaning and will be useless to a new member on HRN in search for an answer to the same question. So accordingly, we stick to the topic. (BTW, my opinion on this story of fair atitude, regardin of Eugenix prices in India vs the population of India vs the rest of the world, we need understand that this is "cosmetic surgery" and that no one is doing this because his health, functioning is endangered, but purely because of his personal desire for the aesthetics of your hair, and because hair means a lot to someone, and tomorrow if we come to the question that we have a disease such as liver cancer, we would gladly give up this HT surgery and opt for liver surgery. So the story of creating prices in India or anywhere is simply useless because it is a free market, and everyone creates prices as they wish, and it is up to clients to find the right one according to their capabilities, because this is a business, not a charity and moralists, even when it comes to human health medicine, surgeries in some heart-type, at some countries, USA, TR, AT are very expensive, but when a man has to, pay for it, he manges it, it's just not fair, I agree, but what is fair in today's world of capitalism, when everything is related to finance-materialism, including health, cosmetic surgery, etc. , and India is which very big pupulation 1.5 billions, and sure there is many people who can pay Eugenix - 2.8e) And now back to the topic, the right way to search for a clinic is the personal experiences of members of this forum or others, as members here post own threads, based on own experiences, use button SEARCH at the TOP, enter name of doctors you want and check 1 by 1 and compare, take a list of recommended, concentrate on a couple of doctors, and review their dozen patients - threads on this and other forums, where progress is monitored up to 12 months, and where the best cases are not selected like clinics post in public on social networks, YT, INST, FB and where on these networks "there is no" bad case, and thus create a more realistic picture of the choice of doctor. And as someone said here, the difference between the recommended and the hair mill is that at the recommended clinics will not find many cases that have destroyed the donor area. In any case, good luck with the search, in my humble opinion, Dr. Feriduni, Bisanga, Lorenzo are some of the best in FUE, there are also Freitas, Ferreira, and yet Eugenix is known as someone who solves cases with a weak donor area and max. efficient use of the number of grafts, and for the crown are very well known, so among them to choose someone will be ok for sure, because they are all in the range of 2 to 5e.
  11. It really depends on what your loss is like and what you need doing. For a smaller hairline case, I would also definitely choose Couto or Freitas over Eugenix, although they are also pretty damn good with hairlines too so no need to discount them. You also need to research actual patient posted cases on the Spanish forums before you can say you'll close your eyes and pick X doctor. Right now, all you've done is look at a number of clinic posted YouTube videos in which generally the clinic posts the best of the best cases, and this is especially true for Couto and Freitas. I'm not saying I wouldn't chose them in the blink of an eye, but I have seen multiple patient posted cases on the Spanish forums where Couto didn't seem like so much of a magician anymore in comparison to his YouTube videos, and I've seen multiple patient posted De Freitas results that, to be honest, I thought were clearly poorly planned due to a low placement of density from the get go; this is in fact what made me pick Pinto over him after I combed through every result I could find from both . I still see him as one of the best though and recommend him all day, don't get me wrong, this just put me off. My point is, you need to dig deeper to be fully informed. PM me if you want me to point you in the directions of the Spanish forums so you can see the results.
  12. You have pretty awesome hair dude ! And no I can’t see a female pattern at all. Seems like a good frontal third procedure will have you sorted 👍🏽 Definitely consider Dr Freitas, Dr Feriduni, Dr Ferreira and Dr Pinto. Personally I think Dr Freitas is doing the best hairlines anywhere worldwide.. yes maybe Couto as well…
  13. I agree with @digi23, yours is an easy “case” for surgeons like De Freitas and Pekiner, but as says @Melvin- Moderator,take a look at the thread of @Maa, procedure done with Dr. Bisanga.
  14. Not sure if I am missing something but you have pretty good hair. You could do a small maybe 1500-2000 grafts to remove temple peaks abit if youd like. Then do it with someone who is amazing at hairlines, like Dr Pekiner or De Freitas.
  15. Heitmann, feriduni, bisanga, lupanzula, hattingen, de freitas,…
  16. @JC71 I saw many videos of Dr Freitas and i feel his work is quite outstanding too. This might be a tough question but if i choose between Eugenix (Premium package) which is near Noida(Delhi) my hometown, or Freitas where i could get a free ticket to travel,which one should i choose? Prices are almost the same for both these i guess.
  17. We have just 2 ongoing/developing Couto results on here, 1 of which is @RManciniand he hasn’t been back in quite a while. And the other @mikowhich is a repair after going elsewhere. Many more results are available on the Spanish/Italian forums. Just we don’t see many posted here. I do think he’s world elite but not marginally better than De Freitas imho. With so few results to go on here and such a long waiting list (maybe around 2 years) a lot of people choose some of the other excellent Euro options open to them. Hopefully In time we will see more results coming through, much like we do for De Freitas. However that’s mostly due to being forum recommended and posting the clinic results regularly. We just don’t have many Spanish people posting.
  18. Greetings gents, Haven’t had the time to post here for a while. But I feel I want to give back to the community. I would’ve never been able to make an informed decision if it wasn’t for this forum. Info Location: Clinica De Freitas - Valencia, Spain. Date of surgery: September 10:th 2020 Grafts: 2486 Hair/graft: 2,21 Method: FUE with motorized punch 0,8mm and implanter pen Doctor involvement: Implanting 100% doctor. Extraction is done completely by one head nurse. About me Age: 34 at day of surgery Ethnicity: Swedish passport and parents but probably central or southern European ancestry somewhere back in time Hairloss: Had an uneven and kinda high hairline since birth but good density everywhere until 27. Then density in frontal third and midscalp started to go slowly. I will answer questions if you have any.
  19. Patient’s details: Sex: Male Age: 42 years old Hair characteristics: Grey, straight and thin thickness hair. Level of alopecia: Norwood III - Diffuse Surgical plan: Hairline, receding hairline and central area restoration, in 2 days of intervention. Grafts breakdown: 1 Grafts - 351 = 351 Hairs. 2 Grafts - 814 = 1628 Hairs. 3 Grafts - 1158 = 3474 Hairs. 4 Grafts - 346 = 1384 Hairs. Total: 2669 Grafts = 6837 Hairs. Average: de 2,56 Hairs / Graft. BEFORE DESIGN PLACEMENT 12 MONTHS LATER WET HAIR COMPARATIVES VIDEO We hope you like it. Best regards!
  20. Oh really? Yeah it's between them and Freitas for me. I'm expecting a response to my photos from Freitas sometime this year
  21. I understand you my friend, and I can see that your hair was stronger here too, but yeah I'm very sure this is just a case of continued loss of native hair over the years. Similar to how people say oh I only started losing my hair at 30, 35 or whatever age when this is not the case at all; it's just when they noticed it for the first time. It had been happening slowly in the background since puberty began and their body was saturated with androgens. In your case, it's just built up in the same way slowly until you've noticed it recently, unfortunately. Good news is that the fin should now keep you in a steady state for a long time, and your hair as is really isn't bad at all. You can revert back or close to your previous state shown in 2016 without much issue in my opinion. I think maybe a few thousand grafts in the right doctors hands, spread out across the frontal third/half and you'll be good to go. This guy was worse off than you by a fair bit I would say, here's how he looked with over 2.5k from De Freitas in Spain: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/61325-dr-rafael-de-freitas-2759-grafts-6049-hairs-fue/?tab=comments#comment-607476 Just make sure the doctor you choose is comfortable doing this type of work and is confident in your particular case as it can sometimes leave you worse than before implanting between so much native hair due to permanent shock loss.
  22. Its just that these you mentioned have been appreciated for a longer time. I am sure Bicer will be 2+ euro in two to three years when she have gained a reputation everywhere that she is a great Dr. I have alot of respect for De Freitas results, which in the end is the most important thing. But I would never ever choose him myself because he does 2 patients a day. For 3,50 euro per graft I would choose someone who does only 1.
  23. I'm relatively new to this but would appreciate if someone can help me understand this better. What exactly do the other doctors charging > 2.5 (Pekiner, Ferrier, de Freitas) do better than someone like Bicer who charges only 1.5 for micromotor extraction? I've looked extensively at all their results on here, as well os on Alopezie and Bellicapelli and see that Bicer's work seems equally good? 1. Is it just that it's more likely to be a hit and miss with the technicians doing the implantation? 2. is the micromotor technique inferior to the manual punch technique as far as graft survival and preservation go? Would really appreciate if someone can shed light on this. Bicer's work seems awesome but it seems like I'm missing something if it's an entire Euro cheaper than the other surgeons' work...
  24. It can be personal choice of course but I think Dr Freitas is doing the best hairline work. Just look at as many results as you can before making any choices.
  25. Thank you so much for fast responses 😄 Yes, I'm from Poland. I know it might be a silly question or quite hard to answer, but between those 3 surgeons, which one would you guys pick: Dr. Bicer, Dr.Feriduni, Dr. Freitas?
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