ya, i did have gel thats why it looks a little thin but my hair caliber is pretty thick, the density is average (oriental hair) I suppose its a plus. I don't need to get a thick hairline but i don't like the see through look. As far as choosing Dr's, I'm leaning towards Dr. Rahal. I like his hairline designs with conservative approach. He seems to get good results with less grafts. Keep the comments and suggestions coming. I really need it. thanks