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Hey scientist. Great results but have you considered lasers to help the growth. Not a laser combs but a full coverage laser helmet like overmachogrande is doing? Its pretty new as in the past the most lasers in a clinical hood is around the 130mark but people who have made there own say they have had luck reversing gray hairs and thickening existing hair which could be good in your situation. Im not creating discussion on lasers just letting you know there is another option that you mite be intrested in.

Fingernails are made up of the protein keratin and nails obviously grow on everybody for a life time including us baldys. So has anyone heard of studys using fingernails to treat hairloss. I could amagine them grinding up someones nails and having it injected into the scalp. Is there any research done on fingernails for hairloss???? Also i read nails are made of cells which also makes sense for a hairloss treatment right

Fingernails are made up of the protein keratin and nails obviously grow on everybody for a life time including us baldys. So has anyone heard of studys using fingernails to treat hairloss. I could amagine them grinding up someones nails and having it injected into the scalp. Is there any research done on fingernails for hairloss???? Also i read nails are made of cells which also makes sense for a hairloss treatment right

oh yea and im not apart of any company. im just a young guy who wants his hair back. The link i posted aswell... they dont sell anything! its just instructions on how to build a helmet and science behind lasers

like i said laser combs are a joke. (5 diodes in a comb). I wont try convince anyone but i just want all to know that the top line of laser hoods on the market which you find in hair clinics can be made for about $350 where to buy one of these units runs from $20,000-$40,000

Im not apart of the website. Some guy made it up to show intructions how to build your own. There is no money involved for me or the guy who even made the site

yes dht is the killer but lasers send alot more blood to the follicles which keeps them alive. I agree that laser combs are crap but im talking about a laser helmet. Go to any clinic that uses these 100+ diodes helmets and they will charge ALOT but they get results. These $40000 hoods can be made at home. take it or leave it

I just posted on another forum then saw this one. Im 22 and have noticed my hair loss since 18. At 19 i went to ashley and martin and got ripped off big time. they had me on fin and minox for 2 years, cost me about 2000 which i kick myself for now. Im still on fin and minox from the chemist and yes they do work. Well finesteride works well but i got sexual side effects and hate it. So this brings me to the latest "trial" ive done. LASERS!.. PLEASE read just a little more. Ill make it short and sweet. A laser helmet which they use in clinics which charge $5000 give or take a year has no special technology. It is a bunch of diodes which you can buy anywhere and all connected to a power supply. Theses machines cost $40,000 retail and has about 90 diodes. You could make this helmet for around $350-$400. All the info on how to build one of these is on (promotional link removed) . The fact that im posting this to a young forum makes me real happy to help out being a young lad myself. I really hope you all click on that link and read into it. I dont kno what to say to convince you cos i could obviosuly be some retarded serial killer talking shit but please just check out the site and real a little. Lasers are 100% percent safe and WORK. I made a 125 diode helmet which is moved over the scalp 3 times for total coverage and used 3 times a week for 20mins on each second. The site explains it all. Why it works. How it works. Exactly how to make a helmet and trust me it is very very simple. Dont buy into underpowered laser combs. (9 diodes i mean WTF!) Laser stimulate the follicle and cells to create a much thicker hair. Its like a very mild wounding which is continusly sending more blood to the scalp. I mean if this is all it takes to keep your hair (sitting under your helmet a few times a week) than hair loss is solved. This only works on existing hair. If your hair has shaft is completely dead there is nothing to stimulate but for us young guys lasers can save our hair for good. Im no salesperson. I use to come on this forum alot but found the overmachogrande website and no one on this site seems to have found this so im back to spread a good word and thats it. best of luck to everyone

Also i dont mean that it wounds the top layer of skin. The hair is not affected during the treatments

Yes commercial lasers are rip off. Lasers can work if used correctly. Hairmax combs have about 9 laser diodes which is far from whats needed to stimulate growth over the scalp. The best results from lasers you will see are from the hoods at laser clinics which cost people $5000 give or take a year. Trust me when i say this and check out the site i provided..... These hoods retail for $40,000 and you can make the exact same helmet if not better (more diodes) (more cellular stimulation) for about $300. I highly suggest you all atleast read thru the introduction of www.overmachogrande.com Im no salesman, im a young dude jus trying to get my hair back and just built a 125 diodes helmet which is moved over the scalp 3 times for total coverage. 20mins 3 times a week. This wounds the skin very mildly so your scalp allways has the blood needed to beat of the strength of dht and that it does. Hope some of you take a few mins just to click on the site

ive searched our forum but couldnt find any info on the follica diy kit that may be becoming available in the future. On other hairloss forums there is ALOT of talk about people sandpapering there heads and using the follica solution to put on the wounded skin. There is one guy with pictures of an 11 fold increase of hair on which was a completely bald scalp. I highly reccommend you all search it and buzz in on our website here with your opinions. Just go to google and type in follica diy pics and you should be able to see all the fuss im talking about

heres the sitehttp://www.promocell.de/index.htm#top

I was with ashley and martin for 2 years and they put me on quater a pill of proscar daily and 2ml minoxidil every day. They charged me i think its was $3500 for 1 and a half years (Lesson learnt). You can get these products from your chemist for ALOT cheaper! The only additional things they done to what you can do yourself is i would go into the centre once a month for a hair wash and some infared stimulation thing which i think done nothing at all. Ive been on my own now with the proscar and minoxidil and have maintained my hair for about 2 years in addition to when i was with ashley and martin. You will find this website alot more useful than them in my opinion.

ICX-TRC - hair regeneration Data from the Phase II trial shows increase in hair count in 11 out of 14 (79%) evaluable subjects at 24 weeks. I read this on the intercytex website today... Is this all the news we get on the 6 months results of phase II trials???

Whats the deal with the progress on hair cloning. They dont seem to have menchoned it. Anyone got anything?

Whats the deal with the progress on hair cloning. They dont seem to have menchoned it. Anyone got anything?

sorry i read now this article could have been from 2006 but still check it out

So i was on another hairloss website and someone menchoned an article from the herald sun newspaper in melbourne australia. For 1 i get this paper and cant find the article anywhere. It is either from sep 3rd or 4th 2008. Anyway they are claiming some new tecnique which i think is bullshit but apparently the article says its like hair cloning and theyve been doing it for over a year. The company is www.thehairinstitute.com.au They dont even give any info on the procedure which makes me beleive its crap. I dont have the paper from sep 3rd so if anyone else can find this article itd be good if someone could post it on here for a read. Sorry i didnt post this in the right section but this is the only forum that was opening on my computer. cheers

So i was on another hairloss website and someone menchoned an article from the herald sun newspaper in melbourne australia. For 1 i get this paper and cant find the article anywhere. It is either from sep 3rd or 4th 2008. Anyway they are claiming some new tecnique which i think is bullshit but apparently the article says its like hair cloning and theyve been doing it for over a year. The company is www.thehairinstitute.com.au They dont even give any info on the procedure which makes me beleive its crap. I dont have the paper from sep 3rd so if anyone else can find this article itd be good if someone could post it on here for a read. Sorry i didnt post this in the right section but this is the only forum that was opening on my computer. cheers

True but im talking a very slight angle. Say like a brick under 2 legs wouldnt be much of an overall slant. I Rekn its worth a try. You heard it here first haha

just throwing idea's around... has any one tried sleeping on an angle with the bed raised at your feets end. This would create more blood flow to the scalp right? has anyone tried or even thought about this before

just throwing idea's around... has any one tried sleeping on an angle with the bed raised at your feets end. This would create more blood flow to the scalp right? has anyone tried or even thought about this before

AND heres another article where they have tested it on mice... Has anyone heard anything about this?? Mouse Study Finds Molecule That Tells Hair to Grow Could one day lead to treatments for baldness, researchers say By Amanda Gardner, HealthDay Reporter THURSDAY, July 31 (HealthDay News) -- Scientists have taken a step forward in understanding the mechanisms behind a problem that has bedeviled many men, and some women, for all of history: hair loss. The study identifies a key signaling molecule that tells hair follicles to start the hair-growing cycle. "These are very complex molecular signals, and the authors have very nicely shown that there is one molecule, laminins 511, that is a very important signal to tell the hair molecule to move through the process. It's part of a basic biological understanding," said Dr. Ronald Crystal, chairman of genetic medicine at New York Presbyterian Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City. The researchers, reporting in the Aug. 1 issue of Genes & Development, feel the findings may one day hold the key to treating male-pattern baldness, as well as hair loss from chemotherapy or even to restore hair on burn victims. But, as so often happens, the study was conducted in mice and, as Crystal pointed out, "Mice are not just little men and women. They are different than us and also different in their hair." A series of complex molecular signals tell hair follicles to go through a cycle of follicle growing, hair growing, follicle receding and hair receding, Crystal explained. The same group of researchers had previously found that the protein laminin-511 was important to hair development. In this study, the authors found out why. It was originally thought that laminin-511 was made from the cells of the outer layer of the skin (epithelium) and acted on the epithelium. It now turns out, however, that the protein, although produced by the epithelium, actually penetrates into the inner layer of the skin (dermis) to kick start the hair-growing process. "So laminin-511 is an early epithelial message to the dermis to say let's start producing hair," said study senior author Dr. Peter Marinkovich, an associate professor of dermatology at Stanford University School of Medicine and member of the Stanford Cancer Center. "Hair is formed as a result of cooperation and communication between the two layers." "We knew that the two layers of the skin are important in hair formation, and we knew that there was some early epithelial signal hypothesized a long time ago, but no one knew what it was until now," he added. In mice, laminin-511 convinced hair to grow at the equivalent of about the eighth month of pregnancy, but Marinkovich and his colleagues are hoping it might also work later in the life cycle. Male baldness associated with aging would be an obvious target. "The hair follicles are still there, but they get stuck in the cycle, so it's not well understood why they're stuck and . . . how do you get them unstuck," Crystal said. "The hope, of course, is that you can apply this to humans, but there are some cautions in all that. Biology is very complex. There are a lot of checks and balances. You don't want hair follicles and cells in hair follicles to be growing too much or not enough. The on-and-off signals that are dampening that and controlling that are very, very complex and not well understood. This is far, far from humans." found on website----- http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100212295

Found this on the net... Dont kno how old this is but it was posted just a few days on google. This is the article below and heres the website... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3A*%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7MEDA&q=laminins+511+hair+loss Latest in Hair Loss News Stanford University scientists have made an important discovery that can help in dealing with hair loss. They have found a key signaling molecule - laminins 511 - that instructs hair follicles to begin the hair-growing cycle. The molecule transfers proteins between the outer and inner layers of skin, an exchange that causes hair formation. Unlike Rogaine or Propecia which slow hair loss, the laminin-511 could potentially regenerate the actual follicles that grow hair. The study was conducted in mice. Laminin-511 made hair grow during an embryonic stage of development. Researchers hope it might work later in life as well. If using the molecule to trigger hair growth works after birth, it would be easy to use it as a drug that could be injected directly into the area where more hair is wanted. The study is published in the Journal of Genes & Development.

Cell Injection Theropy?? is this hair cloning? cos i see some posts about people having this done but i thought its still a long time off? Am i not getting something here?