Badger

Thats interesting, Hard to know from reading it if its gonna be a significant breakthrough or just turn out to be a farce. Whats promising is the application of WNT proteins which correlates with Follica's work which seems to be a lot more publicised and credable. I thought i read a while ago that Follica have begun trials, but i could be wrong. Maybe its that they're starting trials in early 2009. Subsequently, Follica announced in April 2007 that if everything went exceptionally well, they'd have a product by April 2009, but if this was the case we d probably have heard something by now.

This statement appeared a while back in regard to Follica's future Stem Cell endeavour. It was made by David Steinberg who is a profiled member of Follca featured in the company Bio on their website. This statement can be refernced http://www.xconomy.com/2008/01/04/gone-today-hair-tomor...aldness-treatment/2/ David Steinberg 1/4/08 2:12 pm I am with the company. While we have not tested this in humans yet we fully expect that hair will persist. There are multiple reasons for this. First of all, consider hair transplants - while they have other flaws, the hair does indeed persist despite the presence of circulating DHT. In a distinct, but similar way, the Follica treatment changes the microenvironment of the follicles. Further, a single hair cycle lasts several years, and at the very least the new hair should last one full cycle (because of the underlying physiology of the condition). Also, circulating levels of DHT actually drop over a man's life. We have seen numerous clinical reports of patients showing sustained hair cycling when exposed to conditions similar to the treatment Follica is pursuing (in a carefully directed and controlled way). What do you's think. Can anyone understand how the hairs would be DHT resistant. I wonder how would the follica treatment change the micro-environment of the follicles. Any thoughts????

Thats pretty interesting stuff. Id imagine that gene therapy is way off in the future however and will have all sorts of ethical road blocks to breakthrough before it becomes a reality.Im not talkin from any experience or prior research mind you. What if the treatment went all wrong and instead of gettin new hair we got loads of fingers growing out of our scalp. That would really suck.

Hey jupiter, I hear you dude. It does suck. If its a cure your interested in, your not the only one. I think they'll have one in the next ten years from what i ve read. i haven't heard any up dates other than whats goin on in pennsylvania university. The best thing about it is that the whole procedure which they're hoping to start testing on humans in 6 months to a year uses already proven and approved medical procedures. This means that its not some space age, genetic, star trek shit. What they're working on sounds practical. Badger I started loosing my hair around 20...i know how you feel.

hey, I heard all about that to. Im no expert but id imagine it will help. I heard that that study involved that a sample cell and injecting into 4 different genes into into it. From this they reckon they could make brain tissue, a new heart etc. It was called the Holy Grail of Medicine. Its only a guess but theres a good chance it will have great applications for treating baldness.

Here we are again i.e. within 5 years.... why is it always 5 years away with every hairloss treatment. Why not 7 years or 4 years. But if he's tellin the truth, it would be great.

Hey Rahul_39 When you say 105 %, what do they mean. If i was given an empty pint glass, and suddenly the bar man gave me a 105 % top up in that pint glass, i would expect to have a pint glass that s more then full. In this experiment does it mean that the part of the scalp that was treated showed a 105 % increase in hair growth i.e. full original density on the test site???

I stopped using Rogaine (Minoxidil) a year ago. My scalp got really flakey and dry plus it didn't seem to be slowing down hair loss or re growing anything. I cannot say if Minoxidil is the culpritbut, but since last year i have been suffering from Dermatitious in the exact same position of my scalp i used to apply Rogaine. I have been on 3 courses of Antobiotics and its nearly better (1 year later). Thats the reason why i stopped using Minoxodil. But don't let me influence you, everyones skin is different, and mine is really sensitive. You should see me after i have a shave.

I think they re still in phase 2. They're actually due to publish some results soon from what i ve read. They still aim to launch a product in 2009. No one knows whats goin on there really. People generally aren't to excited on the forums from what i ve read. There s a lot of scepticism. But i read recently that intercytex managed to clone a patch of human skin and effectively attach it to someones arm and it fully integrated into the body. No signs of rejection. That s the completion of phase 3 of some other skin repair treatment. http://www.avlar.com/news.113.htm That does sound encouraging to me. If they can clone skin now, then how close would they be to cloning a patch rear scalp skin along with the all important hair follicles and glands. If that was the case then you could have a hair transplant without having to get the back of your scalp cut and removed plus you would have all the doner hair you require. Anyway, who really knows.

I e mailed them and asked them the same question a while back. This is the response i got: Thank you for your interest in Follica. We are extremely excited about the research and are working diligently to translate the findings into clinical treatments. We cannot anticipate precisely when this will be launched as a commercial product, nor have we announced any specific clinical trial plans at this time, though we hope to conduct initial testing in humans soon. We are not currently tracking potential volunteers or creating a distribution list, but please feel free to check back in 6-12 months. We look forward to announcing additional information as we progress. We know how much this means to so many people, and are focused on making it a medical reality. Best regards,

I wouldn't say anything to the kid. When i was sixteen in Biology class back in school (12 years ago), i had a biology teacher who could predict who in the class would go bald when they were older. Back then i had long hair, it was brush thick as well. I was known in the class as Jesus. Anyway, he went from desk to desk and sniggered at the people that would go bald. He was right about me. One of the other lads he sniggered at that day is bald now as well. At the time i laughed it off. But he was right. But the point is what difference will it make if you tell a person or not. We can't do an awful lot about it. I recently heard on the radio that you can predict if someone will encounter hair loss as early as the age of 10. Some boys at that age have a higher hairline and more of a horse shoe shape to their hairline. I ve also heard that certain haircolours in this case are more suseptable to encounter hair loss.

I came across this recent article which i thught was encouraging. Thought id share it with you's. It doesn't relate specifically to hair cloning but sounds like sonething that could help it become a reality. Here's the link. http://www.avlar.com/news.113.htm

That Kiely fella sounds like a Spa....

Hey Hungry Hoss, Your doing the right thing. You 've got some good advice. I myself live in Dublin. Initially i wanted to get a hair transplant in Ireland but after much research i decided to look at doctors in America. A year later and im still researching. I looked at doctor Kiely's site/Blackrock clinic and felt very inticed. Pat the publisher visited Blackrock clinic and was very impressed by Dr Collins work. Pat said in a posting that the only reason why Dr Collins is not a recommended surgeon on the site was because of the laws in Ireland preventing Pat from listing an Irish Surgeon. But Blackrock clinic is ubber expensive. 10 Euro per graft. Thats a lot of money. You d pay a quarter of that per graft in the states. I know what its like, i think everyone on this site understands the anxiety and frustration associated with hair loss.It sucks. But take your time bud. While some doctors are great, other people in this industry don't give a flying F**K about the well-being of the patients. Badger

HDLB Did you say 2008 for a release date earlier on. How optimistic would you be personally about neosil having a product by next year. I wonder how effective it would be when it comes out. Who knows if used in conjunction with the androscience compound if it makes it out of the lab along this wnt dermebrasion treatment if it to acquires fda approval could all together work as a cure.