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Thanks mmhce for the well wishes! Eagle 10

Thank you Sonia and MMHCE. I appreciate it and am continuing to look at all the possibilities. MMHCE, the graft removal information from Dr. Shapiro was very interesting. 2 questions: Did you have it done or have you seen it done and did it look good? I don't know if what I had done was grafts or plugs. (it was 1993 or 1994. Can old plugs be punched out of the forehead, too or is it only grafts, or are they the same thing? Thanks! Eagle10

Thanks a lot for the info. guys. I appreciate it. MMHCE, would there be scars left on the forehead that in turn would have to be covered up with makeup? Have you had that done or know someone who has? Send a pic if you do. I appreciate it. Mp96, what is electro-epilation? Is it the same as electrolysis? Thanks again.

Hello, About 15 years ago I had grafts put into my hairline. The hairline moved up so now I have marrooned grafts below the hairline. I've tried electrolysis about 7-10 times and the hair still grows, finer, but still there to notice because it's a line. I've tried tweezing, but both electrolysis and tweezing leads to a red forehead and even skin infections. I've tried camoflauge with makeup but people notice that. The hairs are fine now, but still noticeable. A handrazor leaves stubble and a noticeably red scalp (and possibly inflamed skin). Does anyone have any experience with some of these chemicals that women use to remove hair on their arms or legs? Would it work or would it also inflame the skin. If you have some experience with something other than electrolysis or laser, that works to remove it, please let me know. I'm interested in any safe and effective method. Thanks, Eagle10

Hello, About 15 years ago I had grafts put into my hairline. The hairline moved up so now I have marrooned grafts below the hairline. I've tried electrolysis about 7-10 times and the hair still grows, finer, but still there to notice because it's a line. I've tried tweezing, but both electrolysis and tweezing leads to a red forehead and even skin infections. I've tried camoflauge with makeup but people notice that. The hairs are fine now, but still noticeable. A handrazor leaves stubble and a noticeably red scalp (and possibly inflamed skin). Does anyone have any experience with some of these chemicals that women use to remove hair on their arms or legs? Would it work or would it also inflame the skin. If you have some experience with something other than electrolysis or laser, that works to remove it, please let me know. I'm interested in any safe and effective method. Thanks, Eagle10

Thanks for the answers. The scars are 15mm apart, top to bottom, and yes the hair is being harvested between them. I'm doing the exercises. I hope they work. I'm just really worried about the new scar showing through short hair. Such a long scar, if detectable, would not look good. Eagle10

Thanks DrewFL. I appreciate it. Eagle10

Does Propecia really maintain hair through and after an HT? What happens? Does anyone have this experience? Eagle10

Does Propecia really maintain hair through and after an HT? What happens? Does anyone have this experience? Eagle10

Hello, This question is about trichophytic scars. Can a trichophytic scar work to close up space between two old scars that is, top to bottom, 15 mm in space between the two, 125 mm long each? It just seems that that is a lot of space to close up and would lead to a very tight crown and shockloss at the crown. He says it will work, but it seems like a lot of space for hair to be strip harvested. Does anyone have experience with that? I am doing scalp laxity exercises and the procedure is 5 months away (and I take Propecia, too) but I remember well the tight scalp I had 10 years ago when the two long scars were created and at that time it did lead to some loss of hair on the crown. I was 28 then. Finally, my doctor says that the trichophytic scar will be very thin and that even with a hair cut 6-10mm short (basically a crew cut), that it will be unnoticeable. Personally, I find that hard to believe because I have my current scars that are 5 mm wide (each) and 125 mm long, and I see them with a haircut that's 12-15 mm in length. In the past, only when my hair has been 21 mm in length (or three quarters of an inch), have my scars been undetectable. Yes, my scars are wider than the trichophytic scar, but wouldn't I still see it with a 6-10 mm cut? He says maybe 6, and definitely with 9mm hair it should be undetectable. What's the truth? I don't want to look like a weirdo with a scar that you really can see with short hair that goes around the back and to the sides of the head. I don't want to have false expectations. Thanks. Eagle10

Thanks Hairbank for your informative answer. Much appreciated. Eagle10

Thanks hairbank. I've come up with a similar conclusion. While Minox is messy (and may clog pores too among other effects), it does seem to maintain. Then again, isn't that what Propecia does too? Maintain. When does Propecia begin to have an effect and what effect does it have?

I've been on Minoxidil for about 5 months. I would like to switch to Propecia solely (I've been on it for about a month). Is that a good idea, or would I have some hairloss due to the switch? Has anyone done that and when would be the best, safest time to make the switch? Thanks.

I've been on Minoxidil for about 5 months. I would like to switch to Propecia solely (I've been on it for about a month). Is that a good idea, or would I have some hairloss due to the switch? Has anyone done that and when would be the best, safest time to make the switch? Thanks.

Thanks JakeVig. That was an informative article. Eagle10

Hello All, Do any of you know if it s safe to keep using Propecia if one is trying to have children. I m a male of course Thanks, Eagle10

Hello All, Do any of you know if it s safe to keep using Propecia if one is trying to have children. I m a male of course Thanks, Eagle10

I use Minoxidil 5 per cent and Propecia. The Propecia I ve been using for 3 weeks. With Minoxidil I sometimes find it clogs pores on the scalp, and I m afraid it knocks out the hair where it does that. It becomes unclogged when I wash it of course, but sometimes there is a little red spot. Like I say, I fear it knocks out the hair where it does this. Anyone else have this problem I m thinking of quitting the Minoxidil and going to only Propecia. When can I do that safely and not have a loss of hair Thanks, Eagle10

Thanks for your responses. I looked back at previous communication, and found that the doc did say earlier that to get best results it may take two procedures. He's unsure as to how large it will be, but only in the worst case should it be as large as the first. Maybe, I'm lucky. I don't know. My big concern is the trichophytic closure (Harvesting hair and closing two long scars that are 15 mm top to bottom.) That seems like a lot of scalp to cut out and I'm afraid that, if it makes my scalp tight, it can knock out a lot of hair. I've been assured that that shouldn't happen. I hope that's the case. What do you think?

Hello, I've just spent several months researching HT and have consulted with a number of doctors recommended on this board. The one I decided on seems very compassionate and has answered all of my questions. He recommended, in what he says is a small procedure, to get 800-1000 FU to fill in the front hairline between other transplants, to use Trichophytic closure so that hair between two old long Bosley scars can be harvested (the scars are from top to bottom 15 mm apart), and to put in perhaps 100-125 FUEs to fill in some smaller donor scars. I was particularly concerned about shock loss, but he has resassured me that, no he hasn't had any patients losing their crown hair and if I take Propecia this should help to strengthen my middle scalp (just above the hairline in the middle) to resist shockloss. In the final communication, I had assumed that he meant one HT procedure, but I asked him how far apart should procedures be. He said one year and he added, in worst case scenario as to the number of grafts, which is unlikely, expect to put in the same number of grafts as in the first! He had just spent several months reassuring me that he would take care and that shockloss at the crown wasn't common (in my case I'm worried about the 15 mm area of scalp that's going to be trichoclosured causing a tight scalp), but at one point he did say that with FUs in the corner of the front hairline there is no guarantee about shockloss. Anyway, why would he have to put the same number of grafts in as the first procedure if this supposed to be a small procedure of 800-1000 grafts? In reality is there more of a chance of shockloss due to that 15 mm width of scalp (that seems a lot to me) that is going to be removed and harvested? He said that seemed longer in distance that what appeared in the pictures I sent, but still it should work. Or, does it mean that in reality shockloss is common, and can be significant ... and that after reassuring me often about shockloss and that this is a small procedure ...lets me in on the truth just as I've e-mailed that I'm ready to book a procedure so that he's covered his bases. Lured in, caught ...and then the truth can be told. My first HT had the effect of knocking out a lot of my hair, thus requiring that I go back in a neverending story cycle. I thought that with all the new technology that things had changed from 10 years ago. In reality, is shockloss still requiring that patients go back again and again? Why if my procedure is small, would I have to go back for nearly the same number again, unless that means shockloss? What's the point of the Propecia then? Thanks Eagle10

Hello, I've just spent several months researching HT and have consulted with a number of doctors recommended on this board. The one I decided on seems very compassionate and has answered all of my questions. He recommended, in what he says is a small procedure, to get 800-1000 FU to fill in the front hairline between other transplants, to use Trichophytic closure so that hair between two old long Bosley scars can be harvested (the scars are from top to bottom 15 mm apart), and to put in perhaps 100-125 FUEs to fill in some smaller donor scars. I was particularly concerned about shock loss, but he has resassured me that, no he hasn't had any patients losing their crown hair and if I take Propecia this should help to strengthen my middle scalp (just above the hairline in the middle) to resist shockloss. In the final communication, I had assumed that he meant one HT procedure, but I asked him how far apart should procedures be. He said one year and he added, in worst case scenario as to the number of grafts, which is unlikely, expect to put in the same number of grafts as in the first! He had just spent several months reassuring me that he would take care and that shockloss at the crown wasn't common (in my case I'm worried about the 15 mm area of scalp that's going to be trichoclosured causing a tight scalp), but at one point he did say that with FUs in the corner of the front hairline there is no guarantee about shockloss. Anyway, why would he have to put the same number of grafts in as the first procedure if this supposed to be a small procedure of 800-1000 grafts? In reality is there more of a chance of shockloss due to that 15 mm width of scalp (that seems a lot to me) that is going to be removed and harvested? He said that seemed longer in distance that what appeared in the pictures I sent, but still it should work. Or, does it mean that in reality shockloss is common, and can be significant ... and that after reassuring me often about shockloss and that this is a small procedure ...lets me in on the truth just as I've e-mailed that I'm ready to book a procedure so that he's covered his bases. Lured in, caught ...and then the truth can be told. My first HT had the effect of knocking out a lot of my hair, thus requiring that I go back in a neverending story cycle. I thought that with all the new technology that things had changed from 10 years ago. In reality, is shockloss still requiring that patients go back again and again? Why if my procedure is small, would I have to go back for nearly the same number again, unless that means shockloss? What's the point of the Propecia then? Thanks Eagle10

Thanks guys for the answers. From what I've read, electrolyis works by essentially bringing the skin tissue to a boil, burning out the hair follicle...so, I hope that it can actually heal.

A few years ago, I looked into that. Ultimately, I decided not to do it. Why not? Apparently, once you've done the micropigmentation, you've then got to wear hats and use suncream to prevent it from fading. Even if they are successful at getting the right colour (difficult), and if you're successful at not exposing it to too much sun, it will still fade in 5-8 years. Then you've got to do touch up, which is recommended. Of course, you may then have to go to a differnt micropigmentation artist who may or may not get the colour right etc. It sounds great, but is a heck of a lot of trouble and for very unpredictable results - potentially worse than what you started with (as women will testify to who went for permanent lip makeup etc.). So, perhaps something not permanent but longlasting? I found henna. Henna can be painted on yourself (don't use black because often it has been adulterated with black hair dyes, which has caused a lot of problems, skin burns etc.). The henna creates a colour that looks like a freckle and can be used for camaflauge. However, it lasts about three to five days max with washing hair. Plus it has to sit and stain the skin overnight. On top of that, you've got to preserved it in the fridge or it will go bad in a few weeks. Weird (explain this to your girlfriend,"Uh, I'm just doing my weekly henna treatment...don't touch." , time consuming, and problematic. I gave up on that stuff. Make up pens, which exists I won't use because it's just too embarrassing and also noticeable if it's too dark etc.

A few years ago, I had electrolyis to remove some grafts that had grown beyond the hairline. Unfortunately, a few natural follicular units were removed too within the hairline. I'd like to have a few follicular units put in those natural spots that were removed. Will a new hair transplant take hold on a spot where electrolyis was done one time, or would the electrolysis have so damaged the skin to make it impossible for growth. Thanks. Eagle10

A few years ago, I had electrolyis to remove some grafts that had grown beyond the hairline. Unfortunately, a few natural follicular units were removed too within the hairline. I'd like to have a few follicular units put in those natural spots that were removed. Will a new hair transplant take hold on a spot where electrolyis was done one time, or would the electrolysis have so damaged the skin to make it impossible for growth. Thanks. Eagle10