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  1. Thank you. I received it. First of all, I am really sorry for this experience.... Man it's really hard to comment on this.... Considering Dr. Couto's aura and the fact that many including myself would put him in "the discussion for GOAT status", I must say this result is indeed very disapointing even for only 2000 grafts.... The density is just not there....and like other members said it was obvious straight after surgery. I wouldn't call it a "botched job" though. But I think the appropriate and fair term would definitely to subpar/mediocre/disappointing. Again this is a cautionnary tale that every clinic in the world even the very best ones have subpar results... This is something that I keep repeating on this forum all time. No surgery is guaranteed unfortunately and every surgery is a gamble per definition no matter who you go to. This is the sad reality of this industry. This is maybe the 3rd subpar result from Dr. Couto I see in many years... I am glad that Dr.Couto stands by his work by immediately offering a free repair. That is a positive news and shows that he is ethical. I am generally not the kind of the guy to say "oh don't worry just wait till 12 months this is only 50% bla bla bla....". From my experience, the 6-months result is generally a lot more than just 50% and very indicative of the final results HOWEVER there is still a chance that it will improve at least marginally until 8-9 months so yes I would give it a bit more time before making a final conclusion. But yeah doesn't look great overall... And if it remains the same then obviously a 2nd procedure is going to be required... I generally NEVER advise people to go back to the same place which didn't deliver for their 1st surgery. However I do believe Couto has some of the best and most natural results I've ever seen so far thus he has a reputation to defend. I mean he isn't considered one of the best in the world for no reason, right ? I remember one case from the spanish hairloss forum who had a density issue from Couto and he fixed it for free and then everything looked fine. Did Couto mess up here ? He clearly did... No doubt about that. Can Couto makes this right ? I believe he can. Is it a good idea to go back to him ? Well....this time around I really don't know... Every other clinic has had subpar cases so again doesn't mean that they'll necessarily do a better job than Couto. It's your personnal decision but there is an element of faith that you will have to put into this if you decide to go for a repair with the same doctor. Couto was able to repair several botched jobs from Erdogan. But here's what I'll tell ya if you have the slightest doubt about the outcome of a 2nd repair surgery with the same doctor then it's better not to go...
  2. Gotcha. Well yeah it may be DUPA-caused thinning or some unusual telogen effluvium, or delayed shockloss. Really hard to say what it could be exactly... Are on Finasteride/Dutasteride ?
  3. Bro I'm sorry for your experience. If this is really Couto then I would be CRAZY disappointed too. Yes Upload the invoice please and ask the clinic to send you pics. Thanks
  4. Oh yeah I know Saifi. He was hyped on youtube by Killian Lawlor his consultant. I think Saifi is not a bad surgeon but he's been overhyped on Youtube in my honest. I've seen some good results but also some pretty mediocre ones... Did you have poor growth ? What was the issue specifically ?
  5. Where did you get your 1st transplant ? Ferreira is 3.5 Pinto is around 3.
  6. Hahahahahhahahahahahahah I certainly don't sabotage good clinics. And everyone on this forum who follows my posts knows it very well ! And yes I do target hairmills and other crappy clinics. But yeah ultimately I agree ! Let's wait for the pictures from OP and then will comment on all this. 👍
  7. Hahahhahahahaha you like trolling bro right That was a good one ! Michael showed very clearly that he was in the clinic's apartement and it was confirmed by members who were there. He also had the exact same tee-shirt with the clinic's logo. Anyways, I do agree we need to see the official pictures tha the clinic should send. (Which I doubt considering the poor ethics...) But bro "let's not derail this thread". OP please upload a few pics showing you were at Couto's clinic and then we will start commenting seriously. Thanks !
  8. LMFAO ! You're funny I did ask and I asked twice. Go back to the original post. Sequence is irrelevant. What we need is an evidenxe to support that you were in a specific clinic. In this case, there is a sequence but nothing showing he was at Couto's so far. That said, I agree with you that it looks BAD.
  9. LMFAO I think you should hold off before jumping to conclusions José. Yesterday, you were highly suspcious of Michael Hofmann's botch job who has provided more than sufficient evidence to prove he was at HLC. And now you call this "clearly a botched job" before we have even seen any pictures showing he was actually at the FUEXPERT clinic.... I agree that this looks very subpar and I would certainly be very disappointed... If it turns out that this is Couto then yeah I'd be asking for free repair or refund. BUT please wait before making such judgement.
  10. Never heard of that clinic bro. Better not risk it
  11. Hello, First of all thank you very much for sharing your experience. Before we all start commenting on this, could you please post some before and after pictures from the FUEXPERT clinic ? Thank you very much
  12. Some doctors do prescribe it to guys under 18. I've seen it. That said, I agree that there are decent topicals alternative to oral Finasteride Nick that can be used to buy some time until the you're 18-19
  13. I feel like you are either trolling or arguing purely for the sake of arguing. I am not conflicting myself at all. Again, read my posts. Everything makes sense and my reasonning is logical. Anyways, the point is. Kid, A. Get a proper diagnosis first from a legit medical professionnal. Ideally a good hair transplant surgeon or a specialized trichologist. Not a general practicioner. Also consult an endocrinologist. B. Follow his advive and start treating your hairloss as soon as possible with legit treatments (if any) Your doctor will determine which specific treatment is best adapted for your particular case and severity of androgeni alopecia (if any) Period Good luck !
  14. You are not a medical professionnal and obviously you don't what you are talking about. It is not "reckless" to jump on Dutasteride like you say. Again, your statement is pure lack of knowledge based on hearsay and basic cheap fear mongering around something you have no clue about. Dutasteride is still one if the most effective treatments and is very commonly prescribed off-label to treat Androgenic Alopecia. The scientifical evidence suggest it is better than Finasteride. I suggest you ask any good hair specialist doctors like Pinto, Freitas, Mwamba etc...They are all big advocates of Dutasteride.
  15. Bro I think you're missing the point here. You are basically analysing everything through the prism of money/budget. Forget about money. You should always be looking for what you think is the best in terms of QUALITY and consistency of producing great results regardless of the price. And by great and I mean specifically "consistently above average" which is my opinion isn't the case with Cinik, HLC, Yaman etc... Also in my opinion 90% of US hair restoration surgeons are average at best even many who are recommended on this forum and I would NEVER risk paying 20 000$ to someone like Diep to get a botch. So being expensive doesn't always equals quality. That's for sure. On the other hand, Konior's prices are astronomical but he does produce consistently outstanding results on a regular basis therefore if I could afford him I would go to him because I do believe he's worth the money. You have only one donor area and a limited number of grafts to use on the recipient area. No surgety is guaranteed even with the best but you have to try to get this shi* right as much as possible from the first time ! I honestly think the risk vs reward ratio of Cinik REGARDLESS OF THE PRICE is not good. You can never undo a bad hair transplant even with all the money in the world.
  16. Of course. We are all looking for budget options. That's completely fair and normal. Myself included. But the golden rule is never limit your research to a specific budget. I always tell people go with what you think is the best based your own in-depth and extensive research. If you cannot afford what your gut tells you is the best and most consistent (regardless of the price, whether it's Cinik, Konior or Bicer...) then simply don't go to a cheaper option. If you have the slightest doubt about your surgery then don't go. If you concluded based on your own homework and due diligence that Cinik's package with him doing the incisions is the best price/quality/consistency ratio then go for it.
  17. I never changed my advice. You didn't take enough time to read my first post carefully and you are making assumptions. Everything you said until now is absolutely pointless and irrelevant. What is your point ? What are you trying to say specifically ? What are you trying to demonstrate ? I feel like you are just trying to argue with me without bringing any construstive argument at this point. Let me tell you. This forum has been created precisely and exactly for guys to share their experience and share advice. Of course he is going to visit a legit medical professionnal regardless of your advice, or my advice or any information he may have come across online. The point is any honest, competent and experienced medical hair specialist will give him the exact same advice. It is important for him to understand that early action is key and long term commitment to medication is going to be necessary because this is the only viable option to avoid going bald (which he is obviously concerned about). That's it. Period. Say something constructive if you have or let's just leave it there.
  18. The options I suggested are certainly much better in terms of quality and a lot less expensive than some expensive US surgeons like Diep, Behnam, Harris etc who often produce crap results... For me 2€ per graft is still budget. I agree with you about Cinik though. If you decide to risk it then yeah getting Cinik to do the "opening of the channels" (😂) as he likes to say is probably somewhat better than letting his nurses do everything...
  19. I'm basically just looking for a dose of SHILLING MILLING at this point
  20. Cinik is a mill. I've seen dozens of his results over the years. Both with Dr. Cinik "opening the channels" or results just from his nurses... Some are fantastic, some are average, some are crappy botch jobs and some are disasters with overharvested donor and poor growth... The "average" typical result from Cinik is somewhere in the middle. Decent growth and naturalness in the recipient with a slightly damaged donor. He's not the worst hairmill. There are much worse hairmills obviously but the truth is Emrah is a big gamble. I personally wouldn't risk Cinik especially if I had advanced hairloss to begin with. If I was on a budget I would avoid Turkey altogether at this point and rather go with a decent budget options like Felicidad Espinosa MEDECAP in Malaga, HDC Cyprus, Daniela Cotelessa, BHR Malaga ans maybe Dr. Bicer.
  21. I have a pretty large open area. I would like you to teach me your shilling skills please !
  22. That is simply not true. Please stop spreading unecessary fear mongering. We all agree that OP should consult an experienced hair transplant surgeon or trichologist and check under microscope whether there is ongoing miniaturization. He should take action NOW otherwise he will certainly regret it in a few years. IF the presence of miniaturization is confirmed, then ideally he should start lowdose of finasteride to minimize any potential sides. Or if he doesn't want to use it then topical finasteride & topical minoxidil + tretinoin or a topical AA. That's it.
  23. I disagree with your statement Melvin and also with OP's parents statement that it is impossible to bald before 18. This is just not true. In this particular case it is debatable whether OP is balding. But generally speaking there are MANY cases of young guys starting to bald as early as 15-16 in high school. I had a friend of mine back in the day with extremely agressive Male Pattern Baldnedd who started going bald at 15. He is now a full Norwood 6-7 at 30 with a shaved horseshoe. And he is extremely depressed because of this situation. OP I think you shouldn't wait and get on oral Finasteride/Dutasteride IMMEDIATELY. Remember, time is off the essence when it comes to fighting the evolutionnary curse of Permanent Male Pattern Baldness. Worst case scenario with these drugs is they will slow down your potential hairloss VERY significantly to the point that it doesn't affect your life. Trust me that will save you tens of thousans of dollars further down the road. Once you lose your hairline completely or get a slick bald spot in the crown then none of these drugs (not even some extremely hardcore stuff like castration, lupron with estrogen) can regrow it and you will have to get several hair transplant surgeries...And as you know now by researching on this forum transplants are very expensive and uncertain. The truth is they can never recreate native hair density and you'll have to deal with combover and Toppik, SMP for the rest of your life. Drugs like Fina/Duta are fantastic or preventing things from getting worse and in SOME rare cases regrowing existing miniaturized hairs but they absolutely do not regrow hairlines or bald patches and often do not even reverse diffuse thinning. Keeping what you have by getting on medication early is a billion times easier than trying to play catch-up with transplants once you are far gone.... I would suggest OP gets on oral Dutasteride 0.5mg daily and oral minoxidil because I suspect an agressive version of Male Pattern Baldness. This is what I would do personnaly if you could go back in time. (I wish I could haha....) Now some of you may think "Bro this is too extreme you're crazy !!!" Well okay but I think the very minimum he should consider doing is 0.25mg finasteride daily or 1mg 3 times a week + topical minoxidil mixed with tretinoin. It is safe to use finasteride and dutasteride once puberty is over. If you have doubts then I would consult a very experienced endocrinologist + a hair transplant surgeon. However in case you do not want to use oral Finasteride (which I totally understand bro 👍) then I would get on minoxidil & topical finasteride to "buy you some time" until you are 18. But definitely take SOME action. Don't wait.
  24. How many grafts does a shill usually require to cover the front with a conservative hairline ?
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