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couto gently sings to the grafts and tucks them in at night so they grow big and strong

2500-3000 imo. Hairline takes a lot of grafts so you'll probably see a lot more grafts than you would mid scalp

I think H&W are quite capable of "conservative" results. Just cause you can plant a forest doesn't mean you aren't able to plant a few trees. Sure they might recommend more grafts but all you gotta do is ask for less

Ah but they say it's 99/month's supply. What constitutes a month's supply then? Is a month's supply enough for a NW5 diffuse to apply daily? If I'm NW2.5, would I be able to get 1.5 or 2 months out of 1 month's supply? I get that we can microdose it, but what if our goal is to do the recommended 1x/day? I'm just wondering about how much we actually get from their product. It's like getting a year's supply of free pizza only to find out it's 52 free pizza vouchers you know?

Even NW2 vs NW5 diffuse is pretty different area though. Like for me I'd probably just apply it around my hair line I'd imagine while a NW5 is applying it to the entire midscalp, crown (maybe) and the hairline

I'm personally waiting for topical dut but wish nothing but the best for people trying this out. Just wondering though, they say it's $99 per month but surely a months supply is different for a NW7 as opposed to a NW2... How are they intending to distribute topical fin in response to that? Is it going to typically show up on your doorstep every month like it does for other people or can you reorder every 1/2/3 months? Or maybe they just ship you 3 months at a time?

I think it's more the opposite where you get a system for the crown but use your natural hair for the hairline with a transplant. I think hair transplants end up being cheaper over time as well since hair systems are a subscription model and subscription models are great at nickel and diming you until you're broke

looks like they're targeting 6 months for topical dut release

Wasn't the topical fin one limited to US/Can? Could've swore it was

My 5 (in no order) Freitas, Couto, Konior, H&W

You're not a 3A if you have crown loss. The A implies you're only losing in the front. V is for crown loss. If you have diffuse in the middle, your pattern is probably going to be 4 or 5 at least I'd imagine I think there are a few examples of guys with failed transplants still shaving it bald. Joe Rogan has a scar on the back of his head from his failed transplants for example

To add onto RandoBrando's question, I'd love to see comparisons between a placebo AND a comparison between a typical topical dut formulation that you might get from someone like Dr. Mwamba who has a pharmacy manufacture it for him

I'm sure this will be discussed but I would like to hear a release date for topical dut

Is that diffuse loss on top or is that just the lighting?

Is that diffuse loss on top or is that just the lighting?

I honestly don't think it makes that much of a difference. It's a very minor detail and fwiw, what's done is done.

Not really a great analogy seeing as that original 5 inches of land had "5 miles of forest". Actually it possibly even had "10 miles of forest" originally. Hasson and Wong get pretty strong survival rates and they dense pack like no other. Just ask Dr. Konior. Why would you want to dense pack? Density in the front scalp where it matters the most. Letting people avoid going 2 or 3 trips to get the same result. It seems like a solid choice for people who are older, stabilized their hair loss, have minimal hair loss. i.e. lots of supply to create a fantastic result Does it compromise graft survival rate? Honestly, the survival rates from H&W look very good.

Imo they use more hair to achieve better results than other surgeons. H&W have great results using a limited number of grafts. But they can give you hair that's dense packed

How is that a 5 month result. Looks amazing

I like H&W. If you want them to use less grafts, just ask them. But lots of people get 2+ hair transplants to get extra density. I'd rather just get it in one from Dr. Hasson

I don't understand how this relates to my post at all

Would you really be happy with a NW7 hairline? NW7s often end up as NW3s after they're done transplanting... Have you even lost enough hair to be NW3?

Is this correct? I don't recall seeing him offer 1.5 euro after 2000. And adding it seems a bit weird since he's got a wait list over a year long I also got a quote from him for 2600 grafts @ 7500 euro last year so that's less than what I'm paying at the moment. This was last year though so he may have changed his prices

Yeah it's more my point that if you're buying a car, you'd rather get 15 years out of it instead of 10 right? Same with a hair transplant but since they last until you die in theory (ignoring age related thinning/questionable donor hair quality), you can't tack 5 years on the backend... You tack 5 years on the front end by getting it earlier. But the issue with getting it too early is you're trying to buy a car when maybe you don't know what kinda car you can afford

Imo the time value of a hair transplant is super important. I know a lot of guys just rush into it and I don't agree with that at all, but it really is nice to have hair for 10 more years when it matters. In North America, we just get fat after marriage