jimcraig152

No psychological problems. "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone." I am just going to get this botch job repaired. Hope it saves someone else too.

These are pics taken 2 years post surgery. My hair is shoulder length in these pics. This is the same pic. One is turned vertical to illustrate how straight and pluggy the hair line is. The cobblestoning and ridging are pretty apparent in this pic. Sometimes, I feel as if I got a lace front weave hair system, and not a hair transplant. I feel my results are refund-in-full+restitution worthy.

So happy for you @Tnt1990! Well done Dr. Nader, well done!

Here are shots of the front and of the hairline. All pics taken after a shower, blown dry, then hairspray spritzed on to make my hair stand off my forehead to reveal the hairline, which I feel is too straight. All the zig zags grew in as you can see when compared to the early post op pics. I feel it doesn't do anything to break up the grafts being placed in linear fashion next to each other: What do you guys think? Too straight or no?

Thanks man. It isn't a disaster and I'll do something about it. Just waiting out the 12 months. You on the other hand look great! I feel square inch by square inch, the bald areas you had filled in by Dr. Konior was equal to mine (if not greater?). Just amazes me how he was able to pull off the density with 500-600 less grafts compared to my procedure. Such judicious use of finite donor supply. Congratz brother!

Actually, it is a bit of a chore. My phone's charging port is dead, so I can't easily download pics from my phone. But I've posted a pic from the front with the last update. Things are pretty much the same since with the exception of the hair being longer. Like I said then and as I said earlier, I feel I do look better than before the surgery and things look better from the front. I'll post more pics after the haircut. Can't recall exactly what was in there when I took those pics. Hadn't planned on taking pics that day to update this thread until I saw @hybonix's reply. Been experimenting with different stuff with my new hair, so it is either: Layrite Supershine Medium Hold Cream, or Layright Mediumshine Medium Hold Pomade, or Axe Highshine Medium Hold Pomade, or Some Walmart brand pomade Perhaps there was some Extra Firm Hold Tresseme spritz hair spray in there as well. I am going to dabble with hair tonic next. I feel pomade and cream is too heavy for me. I've always just used hair spray.

I don't think I got botched or butchered either. I never questioned growth or eventual yield (as stated here and here). The application of techniques diminishing the desired aesthetic result is what concerned me. Those concerns were not without merit. I would have loved to have eaten crow. But I am definitely am in need of a repair. Not going to spend the rest of my life fretting this; I am not fretting now. I have always just been honest with my journey. @BDK081522, I am giving it the full 12 months. More grafts might sprout (doubtful though) and the hair might thicken further. But what I really needs is for the grafts to rearrange themselves in random natural order; that's not happening. I am just going to require a repair job. @giegnosiganoe, yield was high in all areas. Even the grafts planted into the mole. @RandoBrando517, I mentioned I do feel I look better before the surgery. Taking pictures of your donor is a hard thing to do on your own. Wait till you have you have your procedure scheduled and you start taking pics and you'll see what I mean. I have had 2 or 3 professional haircuts since around Thanksgiving. Before then, salons were closed and I was cutting my own hair. I had bought a selfie stick to take pics of the back of my head. I misplaced it and haven't taken pics of the donor since. Once I find it, I'll get a hair cut and post donor pics. Hopefully, that will be later this week. @hairlossPA, even on the right side where density it is low, I feel yield and density meets the criteria to pull off the illusion with my procedure (from a certain distance). I've been following your procedure closely; you look good. I bet you are able to go out comfortably without head wear these days. When my hair was that short, I had a beanie on at all times because the rows looked really unnatural; made the ugly duckling stage that much more unbearable. Some guys are just on different schedules. I was an early grower which is probably atypical. I feel you are right on schedule which is normal. You're hair looks like where I was at 2.5-3 months with lots of vellus hairs sprouting. @aaron1234, pitting/cobblestoning isn't something I am concerned about. Don't give me a complex man, LoLoLoL!! I am wondering though if the multi-hairs will need to get punched out or if the hairline it needs to be lowered to camouflage them out. I guess I'll find out when I discuss things with my next surgeon. In any case, the multi-hairs would probably be something I could live with and not require a repair procedure if it were not for the unnaturalness that I've called out. @qui bono, always good to see you around sir. Thanks for the support!

No positive changes. Issues with the procedure are more prominent now: Hairline is straight as an arrow and pluggy has heck Multi-hair grafts galore in the hairline (zoom in and see for yourself) Rows placement of grafts looks like a hair weave and are even more prominent now that hair is longer Hair is just longer. No new grafts sprouted. Hair hasn't noticeably thickened or was in need of refinement. The grafts didn't grow out kinky at all. Though, I do look better than before the surgery, I am resigned that I have to get a repair. At this point, I don't see any improvement in store in the the few weeks left. In passing social circumstances, the procedure looks ok. And so, that is the grade I would give the procedure at this point; a passing score of a D. In close group settings, the issues with the procedure are noticeable and a Iady friend I know called out something weird about my hair on the right side. Pretty mortifying. I'll get a hair cut this week and post donor pics. I took lots of pics with styling product in it at different angles and lighting, so you guys can come to your own conclusions.

@timcfc

Tom Brady suffers from hair loss. He either responded well to medical treatment, or he had a HT. But his 24 year old hair line has been immortalized by Getty Images from his first Super Bowl season (2000-2001) for all to see: Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4 Link 5

At day 56, I was at the bottom depths of the ugly duckling phase. Started climbing out of the ugly duckling phase after then. See pic below:

Looking good @Micky597! Donor looks great from the side. You got a shot of the donor from the back?

Donor is looking normal in all spots except where extractions were made near the vertex, which is good. Excisions near vertex shows scalp where it didn't before, which is bad. My hair grows fast and it is right now well beyond an 8-guard, so I can't tell. Will post donor pics when I can get a professional haircut; soon as salons open back up on California.

In all fairness to Dr. Diep, I look much better now than before the procedure with him. Been on a plateau since about Christmas but have also been an early grower. There hasn't been much change since Christmas. I know that the months of best growth after a hair transplant is between 6-thru-9. I am right at the start of that period and look forward to gains. In certain positions when I look at my hair, I think "HELL YES!!!!" Like in the next picture where my head is pointed down a bit. Looks great, yeah? But then it is like a children's pop-up book. Looks good only one way. Tilting the head back even just a bit reveals the straightness of the hair line. Even the zig zags have grown in, but they really do nothing to break up straightness of the hairline. All the pics above are taken right out of the shower. No Rogaine foam. Few presses of Tresseme Strong Hold hair spray, combed back with a long-wide tooth detangling comb, and locked in with medium heat. Then the below pics really show the issues with my procedure. Really shows the unnaturalness. The rows down to the scalp look like a really bad hair system to me. Halfway through and I feel I have satisfactory density/yield in 75%-80% of the recipient area. The unsatisfactory 20%-25% is due to the wide row spacing on the right side which makes the unnaturalness so glaring. The grafts are planted in rows and shall grow in rows. Meaning, no hairs shall sprout between the rows. Given that, I feel I am looking at a repair.

"Does row placement of grafts lead to achieving higher density due to limited blood supply?"

Right. I am not discounting Dr. Lindsey's position on the subject. Dr. Konior acknowledges that and states that he respects his peers' philosophies; he can't be more right in that regard. More important is: The patient's goals are achieved "Consistent excellence", as stated by Dr. Konior, is achieved If these things are achieved, does it matter? And I agree with you, there is no blanket absolute answer. Even on this subject at the highest professional levels.

Dr Konior's (AKA: The GOAT) unabridged take on the subject is quoted below. Direct link to that posting can be found here (last post in the thread). Further reading on tech-driven hair restoration facilities by Dr. Konior can be found here. A very eye opening and quite humorous read I would encourage everyone to read. A bit out of context, so be sure to read that posting, but the following is an excerpt from that posting: Even at the highest professional level, philosophies and/or opinions vary. Even Dr. Konior acknowledges that in his post. Surely, great results can be achieved either way. But as you've told me privately, let's not let bias be positioned as fact. Perhaps you can pose the same question to Dr. Konior and Dr. Nadimi tomorrow? Would be interested in knowing if Dr. Konior's position has changed in the last 13 years. I do believe Dr. Nadimi does do 100% of all graft placement. I could be wrong, but please ask that question tomorrow.

Please post donor pics @Flash10.

I believe that is in reference to this case where the patient didn't get great density. As I understand it, not all patients get good density. Luck of the draw it seems. But that makes Dr. Nader no different than any other surgeon. My surgeon is known for producing great yield and density. But then look at this father and son's results here. So yeah, luck of the draw and thus would make Dr. Nader no different than any other surgeon.

Temple points look really good. The HT would not have worked without it. The conservative hairline works. Dr. Nader did a fine meticulous job with the vertex grafts. Placement, angles, direction all match your natural whirl; certainly does not go unnoticed. I believe key out of everything is: Random nature-like placement of your grafts, and Donor management is excellent Reason being is your alopecia areata. You may never know when that comes back (I am praying to gods for you it never does). But should that happen, you can buzz your hair low and not have to worry about exposing that you've had work done on you. You did a fine job picking Dr. Nader. And I am glad he relented and took you on despite the risk. You knew what you were getting into and this wasn't a case of overdoing it (a la Michael Jackson should have quit after his first nose job). Given that, there is no ethical dilemma here. He did you a solid. Hoping for the best for you brutha. Will follow your case closely.

Yeah, they were. It's scarring from the excisions. Should fade with time as I reach the full 12-month recovery cycle. I've experimented with viewing my donor in grayscale to see how it might look once healed. Check it out here: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/57329-fue-experience-wdr-diep-mhta-clinic/?do=findComment&comment=559302

With those results you got, I am over the moon for you. Hot damn! What were you, a Norwood 5, now a 0? And 100% via FUE? Can't be real. Some serious merit with DHI when we see your work. Those graft bulbs definitely were protected during implantation. Can't go from NW5->NW0 over 8300 FUE grafts if the yield isn't high. There is this recent thread about Dr. Couto's work. Couto is talked about as sort of the Masamune of hair transplantation and it shows. But I'll be darned if I look at the early results compared to your 10-day mark if I can tell the difference. Which guy below had work done by the acknowledged master? The pricing is just a bonus. Thanks for posting and the education brutha. Much appreciated.

Brad Pitt Legends of the Fall-type work there @Guy73. You don't suffer from hair loss anymore brother! Agree with the buzz down look in your prior post. Angle, direction, random placement. The doc has to put the time in if transplanted hair is to be indistinguishable from natural hair with buzzed low hair. So much flexibility with your what you can do with your hair when that is achieved. Silly question about your personal safety. Did you feel in any way you were in jeopardy at any time? I read about travel to Reynosa and there is mention of daily gunfire. The presence of Cartels. Did you feel in anyway there was any hint of danger in your 3 trips to Dr. Nader's office?

Simplemente magnífico @RMancini! Fotos del donante, por favor.

Profile shots of your temples when you can please.