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  1. thanks gillenator. I am more concerned about the recipient area, my hairline area where I want to add density. I don't mind transecting a few chest and abdomen hairs, since I have plenty of them, but don't want to damage the existing hairline area hair when attempting to add density. So my question was more about repeatedly poking the recipient area with the anesthetic needle over several sessions on consecutive days. Is that needle very fine or thick? Also worried about the beard area where the hair is pretty dense. Can they inject the anesthesia between the follicles so as to not damage them?
  2. In the case of a clinic like Eugenix, they apparently have four different clinics in different cities. It is doubtful that a surgery performed at the Mumbai clinic would be overseen by the top doctors Sethi and Bansal, since they are far away in the Gurgaon clinic. If I were to choose Eugenix, I would certainly go to the Gurgaon clinic.
  3. Thanks for the replies. BeHappy, yes, that was my experience, too. I'm glad it's better now. I just wonder if the grafts, if some have already been inserted into the recipient area, are firmly enough in there that they won't fall out when I go to the bathroom. And I hope I don't feel faint from loss of blood and maybe fall down!
  4. Okay, this sounds trivial but it isn't. Surgeries can last 9 hours, especially if you're doing body hair. I would undoubtedly have to urinate a few times during the 9 hours. Is this a problem? I remember my first surgery, this was about 35 years ago. I had to go and the doctor acted like this was a major problem. He tried to dissuade me. He finally put a protective bandage over my head and I went to the bathroom. How do doctors deal with this issue today?
  5. Thanks for the reply Paddy. Well, but this illustrates my point. Your surgery was done by Drs. Bansal and Sethi, who are the well-known and highly regarded HT doctors. And the anesthetic was injected by their associate doctor. I think I saw a page on their website where it said that the price for Sethi and Bansal is higher than the price for their associates. Don't have time to look for it just now... Is it usual that more than one surgeon works on you? I agree it's better to pay more for the best doctors. But I am just wondering what you can expect if you use their cheaper associates. Do the cheaper doctors live up to the clinic's reputation for excellence? Or maybe not.
  6. Thanks for the replies. If we are talking about body hair, which is not as dense as scalp donor hair, I guess it would be easy to visually insert the anesthetic needle where there are gaps between hairs. But on the beard donor area, which is pretty dense, I wonder how they can do that without transecting follicles. Then if you are adding density to an existing transplanted hairline, and doing it over several sessions on consecutive days, I am a bit concerned about poking the same area over and over again each session. Also if one reason for the injections is to limit the bleeding, I guess that's helpful to keep blood from getting everywhere and obscuring visibility, but the newly implanted grafts need blood ASAP. I hope it doesn't limit the blood when it is needed.
  7. So maybe what the delay in growth means is that the body hair telogen phase is longer than that of scalp hair, but the body hair anagen phase for some of us is also longer than the average, enabling your body hair to grow long, and then when it finally falls out, take a long time to regrow.
  8. Particularly with Body Hair Transplant (BHT), there are safety limitations with regard to anesthesia. The body donor area (chest, abdomen) is much larger than the scalp donor area for the same number of grafts. That means that you must use more anesthesia, but that can be dangerous so you must limit the amount of body donor area that can be used in one session. So I wonder if there are alternative anesthesia methods that aren’t as dangerous? Topical? Acupuncture? Would the pain be unbearable without the lidocaine or tolerable? While we’re on the subject, do the needle sticks in your scalp to inject the lidocaine damage follicles?
  9. Dr. Poswal has a different way of extracting body hair grafts that he claims is better than using a punch. He uses a hypodermic needle instead. http://www.e-ijd.org/article.asp?issn=0019-5154;year=2013;volume=58;issue=3;spage=240;epage=240;aulast=Poswal https://hairmedclinics.com/procedure-bht-expliquee-dr-poswal/ What do you think about this? Better or not?
  10. I have noticed that there are a few doctors who have developed a reputation on these transplant websites as being among the very best. But I have also noticed that when you contact these doctors’ clinics, your questions are answered by a different doctor, or perhaps just a technician or salesperson whose job it is to answer internet inquiries. I have seen price lists on a few doctors’ websites and apparently it is a lot more expensive to have your transplant done by the famous doctor, and less money to use one of their “associates” at the clinic. Is that correct? So what do you get if your surgery is performed at a big name doctor’s clinic like Dr. A’s or Eugenix, but not by the famous doctor, rather by a different doctor? Will the surgery be of the same high caliber? Is the associate a person who has been carefully trained by the famous doctor and so is just as skilled? Or maybe some mediocre doctor that the famous doctor hired to work on the cheap?
  11. Also forgot to mention, there is 18% VAT added to the price of all cosmetic surgery in India.
  12. I have been thinking about Dr. Anil Kumar Garg of India as well. He and his surgeon wife, Seema Garg, seem to be well qualified. They are diplomates of the American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery (ABHRS). They had a study published in ISHRS publication Hair Transplant Forum International: https://www.ishrs-htforum.org/content/htfi/28/6/217.full.pdf https://rejuvenatehairtransplant.com/dr-anil-k-garg/ They are experienced and enthusiastic about using body hair. They don’t charge higher price for body hair FUEs than scalp FUEs. Their home page, https://rejuvenatehairtransplant.com, talks about hair transplant prices in India. They are MUCH cheaper than the highly recommended doctors in India. Maybe because they are in Indore, a smaller city, not Delhi or Mumbai. Their practice seems dedicated to native Indians, not to attract richer westerners for medical tourism like the more famous big-city India HT clinics. If you google the clinic “rejuvenate clinic indore”, you will find 348 Google Reviews with an overall score of 4.7 out of 5. I must say that the low price makes me nervous, but the man seems honest and legitimate. With that low price, I can afford to experiment with using a bunch of body hair like stomach and chest and not worry about losing a lot of money if only a small percent of it grows, as many doctors caution about body hair. Right now they are closed because of the virus hysteria, but, assuming they open again, would you think they are a risky option?
  13. Thanks Melvin. Yes, that makes sense. But I think I read somewhere that one doctor who is experimenting with follicle stem cells (Is it Dr. Goh?) has gotten plucked hair to grow when implanted.
  14. That's amazing, BeHappy, and goes counter to what we are usually told. Studies I read said that the body hair usually grows a little longer on the scalp than it did on the body, due to recipient influence. But if your hair is growing longer than your native scalp hair, what is that telling us about anagen phase of body hair? Maybe that it's very variable from person to person and some of us hairy apes have very long anagen phases? You had beard, chest and stomach hairs transplanted, IIRC. I hope one day you will be able to estimate the percentage of these hairs that grew. So many doctors are saying only a very low percent of them grow, beard being the exception.
  15. Really? Even if the plucked hair has the bulb on the end? I don't know where I got the idea that plucking terminates the anagen phase.
  16. My objection to shaving the recipient area prior to surgery is that I don't like the idea of dragging a razor along my scalp because I fear it will irritate the scars and make them grow. When you talk about shaving, do you mean with a razor or does the surgeon clip it with an electric clipper?
  17. Hmm, no replies. Well, maybe someone can at least tell me: I am assuming that when you pluck a hair with a tweezer, that follicle goes into telogen. Is that true or not true?
  18. Doesn't everyone fear accidentally losing a graft in the first few days after surgery? I have never lost a graft, but I know the anxiety of fearing loss is a problem and can even make it hard to sleep, which is the last thing you want, since if you don't sleep well you're more likely to have an accident and bump your head or worse. When you're asleep, or half-asleep you have no control over what your hands do and might not remember that you have fresh grafts in your scalp. I did bump my head a day or two after one of my surgeries, which panicked me, and I went immediately to the doctor and he said the grafts bled a little but did not come out.
  19. I understand that body hair's main disadvantage for transplanting is that it has a short anagen (growth) phase and very long telogen (resting) phase. But in the past, when I have had my back hair waxed at a salon, it always started growing back in only 7 to 10 days. I also have a lot of annoying hairs in my ears and on my ****. I pluck them, and they are always growing again in 1 to 2 weeks. I realize that, possibly, the new growth is hairs that were in invisible telogen, and not the same hairs that I plucked. If that's the case, I must have zillions of latent telogen hairs, which seems unlikely in my ears. Other possibility is that the hairs were broken, not plucked. But I can feel the difference between when I break a hair and when I pluck it, and usually my plucks are successful. One more possibility is that, for genetic or other reasons, I have a MUCH shorter telogen phase than the average. This would be an advantage for transplanting these hairs to my scalp, even though it's a hassle when trying to keep my body hair well groomed. Does anyone have similar experiences?
  20. Interesting that the grafts came out easy. Had your doctor used abdomen hair before or was this his first time? He didn't have any issue with the jelly-like nature of the abdomen making it harder to punch?
  21. Thanks SL. In my case, I do have good strong chest hair, but a greater abundance of good strong terminal hairs on my abdomen. My estimate of the survival rates comes from reading a lot of studies on BHT. They all give different percentages of survival, but stomach is usually lower survival rate than chest. As for back hair, Dr. Umar wrote “the author noted a relatively higher graft transection and trauma rate during extractions of hairs from the back regions of the torso. This is attributed to the fact that the reticular dermal layer in the region is the thickest of all body regions; for this reason, back hairs should be routinely avoided in BHT.” I have so many of these body hairs, and I hate them, because these days women like a man with a smooth body. I can clip the ones on the front with a clipper, but I have to go to a barber to cut the back hairs, which can be embarrassing. I live in SE Asia, and Asians don't have any upper body hair, so I really look like a monkey to them. So I figured, well, if I can transplant them to my head, that would be a great solution, and no need to constantly clip or contempate laser hair removal. But if the survival rate is low, transplanting them is a waste of money. I'm fascinated that your transected chest hairs grew back. Did the transected hair also grow on your scalp? Were all 300 of your test grafts transected? And how many of them grew back? Seems like someone should investigate this as it might be a way to multiply donor hairs if you can systematize a way to transect them correctly.
  22. Thanks Melvin. I don't mind clipping the existing hair very short if it will help the surgeon, though I'd rather not shave the scalp. Smaller procedures, like over several days, all for the hairline area, would be helpful? But that means more needle sticks with the anesthetic. Do these needle sticks damage follicles (especially unseen telogen follicles)? Isn't adding density to existing transplants a routine thing? Surgeons don't just do the hairline one day and proclaim it "finished", then a year later the mid-scalp, all done in one sitting, then later the crown. People are always coming back to add density to existing transplanted areas, aren't they?
  23. Thanks for the replies. Gillenator, I like the mittens idea. I wonder where I can find mittens in India, which is where I most likely will go for my next HT. They might be hard to find, as people in India don't tend to have snowball fights. sl, thanks for your suggestion. I think I like mittens better than washing gloves because they are padded, so it would be impossible to scratch out a graft. Is it bad to cover the scalp, because it needs to breathe in order to heal? I am just suggesting covering it while sleeping because that's when the greatest danger is. Another idea I have to address the fear of bumping one's head: wear a padded hat when going out or even around the house. Maybe just put a piece of foam rubber inside a regular hat. Any thoughts on that?
  24. My transplants were done over 20 years ago. Now my side fringe has receded a bit and frontal hair seems to have thinned a bit. Do you risk existing transplanted hairs by planting new hairs among them in the hairline area? Might there be either temporary or permanent shock loss? Do you gain more than you might lose? Can the surgeon be sure not to accidentally damage the existing follicles when he makes the new slits? Thanks for any opinions.
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