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You're in Belgium. You say you can afford to pay premium prices. Bisanga and Feriduni should be your only options imo.

Oh man. 99% of the people here would kill for your pre HT state. Anyway, what is done is done. You need to consult a good doctor. My recommendation would be Dr. Feriduni. He has a few examples on this site of punching out grafts. And I think taking your hairline back a cm or so might be the best course. Talk to the folks at Eugenix. They should give you the best idea on next steps. This is fixable for sure.

Two surgeries at 21 seems a bit odd. I don't see any issues with density at all

Still early days for you. Next month or so should give you a better idea. Keep at it for now.

Hi California, If you have indeed had a conversation with Dr. Bhatti then I'm surprised there is any scope for confusion. I was clear in my mail (prior to posting my thread here) that I will be sharing my pictures with other doctors and seeking the views of forum members here. I would really encourage you to go through the entire mail exchange between me and Dr. Bhatti over the last six months (if you do indeed have access to it). It will give you an idea of how he has not given me an honest answer to why the spot have left. And I have been asking him since the day after the procedure. Hair transplants are no guarantees of course. But the support I have been given has been atrocious. In my case, simply being honest and upfront about why such a decision would have helped me. Instead Dr. Bhatti simply resorted to one liners - shortage of grafts, keeping taking finasteride and growth will come, etc. You're a HT veteran yourself, how would you feel if the doctor told you that he fell short of grafts when indeed he planted 1100 graft in the crown after leaving the area bare? And not once, but multiple times. I may still go and visit Dr. Bhatti for a review, but I'm honestly in no position to let him operate on me again. I respect his 'no refunds' policy and I have no intention of pushing for it. I have started planning ahead for the next procedure and I just want to move on with my life at this point. I understand you're his rep and I have no interest in anyone 'bashing' him. I only speak for myself and my experience in dealing with him and the clinic. Since I was his patient I wanted nothing more than to see him be successful. But you should ask yourself why people on this forum have been so critical of him off-late. This is not a question of a few "not-so-good" results. Dr. Bhatti too should go over this forum and evaluate how can do support his patients better. Or at least be honest and upfront when mistakes are made. As they were in my case. Regards,

Thanks. Lucky you. I'm not sure about a refund since I remember reading on another post that he doesn't do refunds. And to be honest it's not something I'm concerned about. I guess it was money paid for an education. I am already in touch with a few doctors (on this forum and outside).

Sure, I'll PM the details to you. I am conversation with Dr. Bhatti over email.

Hi, Appreciate your response, but I think you're being too charitable to the clinic here. Let me explain in details: Prior to the surgery I was told that I would need 3500 grafts to address both the front (2500) and crown (1000). 3000 would be scalp grafts and 500 beard. He drew the hairline accordingly. There was no mention of two surgeries either before or after the procedure. I would have preferred if he had simply told me that. Instead he did the math and drew the hairline accordingly that could be addressed with 3500 grafts. On the day of the procedure I was told that the front would be address first and then the crown Let's assume during the surgery he realized that more grafts are needed for the front. Why leave a large spot bare and move to the crown? That's simply setting me up for failure! 100-200 grafts (I don't know the number) could have been used to give a illusion of density. Instead he chose to leave it empty, take a lunch break and move to the crown. Even after the procedure he simply said that they fell short of grafts. And then on a second look that I should take Finasteride and it'll grow. No mention of another surgery soon. In fact he only said I would need another procedure in 3/4 years when the midscalp goes away (and that he'll be there for me when the time comes). In our post procedure communications, he's simply asked me to keep taking Finasteride and the hair will grow there. And then in the final communication, again referred to a shortage of grafts. You say this happens a lot. Can you point me to an instance where the doctor has simply left a gap on the front and moved to the crown? I'm choosing to ignore the fact that growth (where grafts have been planted) has been poor too. Other doctors I've spoken to have also mentioned that the grafts are spaced out will not give the appearance of naturalness even if they all grow out.

I agree. The forum is quickly becoming a graveyard of Dr. Bhatti victims. It's only a matter of time that people stop trusting this website itself and good surgeons stop being associated with it. Which is a terrible outcome since there are some really good and ethical doctors recommended here. This is a strange situation for the moderators. After all they get paid from the clinic and it is hard to turn away a source of income. Just like the forum goes through a process of recommending a doctor, there needs to be a thread for removing a recommendation and relying on feedback. Maybe the feedback / voting can be limited to members who have been here for at least a year or a certain number of posts to prevent new accounts being created. But this malaise needs to be stopped now.

I don't doubt anything you've said. Frankly, I'm surprised how quick the doctor was to suggest that they fell short of grafts. At the minimum it mean poor planning. But of course in my case it wasn't a shortage of grafts since 1100 were planted in the crown subsequently. I have consulted with a few doctors and they are shocked with the approached followed by Dr. Bhatti as well. Fortunately, my donor area has healed well and should be able to yield 3000 graft comfortably. The lockdown over the last few months has meant I haven't had to deal with the social impact of this procedure. I saw your thread. Sorry you had to go through this twice. Happy to connect and share my plan going forward. Maybe this forum needs a dedicated "Dr. Bhatti Victim Support Group".

Yes, it is quite unfortunate. And yes, Dr. Bhatti did ask me to stop taking Fin after six months. I'm disregarding his advice at this point. Luckily I haven't had any side effects and have been recommended by another doctor to keep on taking it at this point.

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It's 2400 in the front and 1100 at the back. I never bothered to count of course! Regarding BHT do check out Eugenix. They've had some great results with BHT. And most important they tend to stand by their patients unlike Dr. Bhatti. I've been been doing a lot of research off-late (which I should have done before of course), happy to connect with you and discuss options going forward.

I'll be posting more pics shortly. The hairline was completely bare. I have spoken to a few doctors recently and that been their observation too.

Sure, I had put some in an earlier post. I'll add some here tomorrow (pretty late here in India). I think there are a lot of good options both in India and Europe that you can safely avoid Dr. Bhatti.

Hi all, Will keep this as short as possible since I find long posts hard to digest myself. I have my HT with Dr. Bhatti (Darling Buds) on 6th December 2019. He had transplanted approx 3500 grafts, with 2400 at the hairline and front. And subsequently 1100 in the crown after a lunch break. I had met Dr. Bhatti a year prior to the op and while I had got the recommendation from this forum, I did not go through many of the disastrous results his patients have been putting up on this forum. I am now 6 months post op and the results have been extremely underwhelming. My biggest concern however as been from day Day 1, that the clinic decided to leave a spot bare at the midscalp. I noticed something was wrong right after the surgery and asked the doctor in my discussion with him the day after. The conversation went as follows: Me - I noticed a large spot has been left bare (Dr. Bhatti observes) Dr. Bhatti - We fell short of grafts Me - How can that be possible. After leaving this area bare, 1100 grafts were placed in the crown! (Dr. Bhatti give it another look) Dr. Bhatti - Don't worry, if you take Finasteride it will grow there (SPOILER ALERT - It did not) Now every subsequent month I wrote to the doctor with pictures to show that the area obviously did not have any growth. His response was to no worry and just keep on taking Finasteride. Which is of course did. After six months (show in the subsequent two pictures), when the area where no grafts were planted looked extremely disconnected from the rest, I asked him again why the clinic had decided to leave the area bare? His response again was that it was 'DUE TO A SHORTAGE OF GRAFTS' and that he will check his records. I had to remind him once again that this was not possible! Since hair was planted in the crown after leaving that area empty! Now that I have gone through many HT experiences on this forum and others, this has to be the first time I'm seeing a doctor falling short of grafts (even though in my case it wasn't really him falling short? And the experience of dealing with Dr. Bhatti post HT is an absolute nightmare. Has anyone here had a experience where the doctor leaves an area bare and moves to the crown? And then claim he fell short of graft? I have failed to get a clear and honest answer from Dr. Bhatti regarding this for six months now. He is asking me to come visit him. With the current COVID situation in India worsening that would obviously not be possible at the moment. In any case, I do believe he owes me an explaination to why the area was left bare and why he keeps insisting that he fell short of grafts when he clearly did not. The way the HT was conducted meant it was meant to be a failure from day 1. I am now reaching out to other doctors to get their perspective.

Wish you luck for the coming months. Sorry if I missed your earlier posts, but why aren't you taking Finasteride? You could lose a lot more hair in six months. So even with a good HT it may not look optimal.

No laser Would not leave scars. But laser isn’t very precise and would take multiple sessions. Also it won’t work on grey hair. Electrolysis is another option of course. in my opinion you shouldn’t rule out removing via FUE. Here’s a reference case - As with this case I think Feriduni is a great option.

Looking great. I would use beard hair on the crown. Have you tried concealers?

Can you not visit the clinic again? Or if it's another city, maybe visit a different clinic?

Hard to speculate by looking at the pic. It is a sizeable amount of blood.

Blood is never a good sign. Hard to tell exactly, but you have unfortunately lost some grafts. Hopefully it's blood from a few grafts that has spread rather than the whole area. Please talk to your clinic asap.

I think you can't go wrong with the doctor's you're thinking off. It's great that you're planning so far in advance. Wishing you a home run by June 2021!

That's a large area to fue out. But I agree with the approach. Taking the area you've marked out immediately improve the shape and solve the density issue. Innovative solution.

This is absolutely normal. At 9 days your grafts are firmly in place. Any scabs or hair falling off is not a concern.