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I had my transplant with Dr Yaman at the end of 2019. I was extremely worried about the outcome, but turns out I was a slow grower, and for some reason it took almost two years for the transplant to grow/mature. I am very happy with the results, but the crown area is a concern, and I am considering another procedure to fix it. I am considering Dr Yaman for my next procedure as well, but I don't want to limit myself to one clinic, so I began reaching out to top clinics in North America. Before I get into those details, I would like to include, what happened prior to my procedure with Dr Yaman. I had my first transplant years back, and it ended up failing. I was in need of a repair, so I reached out to dozens of doctor's. What unfortunately kept happening, was that I would tell them the name of the doctor, who did my procedure and in turn, would be told that there is no way, he messed up the transplant, and that the procedure failed due to my Physiology. After countless biopsies, I got sick of it and reached out to doctors in Turkey, which is how I got in touch with Dr Yaman. Now, fast forward to this year. I began consulting with some of the same top clinics, close to where I live. I was hoping to get an FUE+FUT, to maximize my donor, but what I am finding is that I am not being given that option. Clinics that offer both, are only willing to go the FUE route, even though I do have enough laxity for a strip procedure. I have had my scalp and donor hair examined, by a few other clinics. I have even agreed to drop by in person, so the doctors can have a better look, but they don't seem very open to the idea. I have also had other clinics hesitate, because of the fact that I had a repair procedure done already. I don't mind flying back to Turkey, if I have to, but I would much rather get a transplant closer to home. Any other repair patients, go through something similar?

I have been on Finasteride for two years now, which helped stop the hairloss. Unfortunately I was told by my prescribing doctor, that there is a possibility for hairloss to continue down the line, so in case that happens I would like to plan ahead

I had my second transplant almost a year ago, and so far am pleased with the results. I will have to go back to Dr Yaman to increase density in the crown, and I was told last year that an additional 3500 to 4000 grafts can be extracted. However, I am a bit worried since one of the clinics I consulted, Dr Demirsoy mentioned that I am heading for a NW 7 and that my sides would likely drop. If that were to happen how many grafts would be required to fill in the area. This was last year hefore my second surgery, and he also stated that my donor was poor and would look overharvested, so he refused to operate on me. I would like to plan for the worst case, which is why I have still not decided on a third procedure

I had my second hair transplant with Dr Yaman, almost 11 months back. I probably posted on here, but my first transplant with another doctor was a failure, and barely any of the grafts ended up growing. I am happy with the way the hairline has turned out, and the results look pretty good, hairline wise thus far, but unfortunately behind the hairline, the density is an issue. I don't think it would be fair to say that the hair isn't growing because it is. I have been taking pictures, every month and it is apparent, that the hair is popping through. I think the issue in density is due to the slow maturation of the hairs in the midscalp/crown region. While the hair is popping through, it seems to be growing quite slowly, and taking quite a while to mature. I have read online, that most of the results should have come in by now, so I am a bit concerned. Is it possible that it might take a full 18 months, before I see the final results, since I might be a slow grower, or would the lack of maturation of the transplanted hair, more likely point to the transplant failing. I have talked to the doctor, and was told to wait a year, before judging the results, but being a month away, from that point, I don't really expect much change.

Fr a NW 7 the demand is definitely greater than supply even with an above average donor. I would not say that surgery is out of the question, but you will have to make use of body hair in addition to the scalp donor to achieve acceptable amount of coverage. Also, I would not rule out medications unless you are already a Norwood 7. Even with the use of body hair, the density might not be what you expect, so you do need to have realistic expectations

I contacted most of the same doctors as you prior to my hair transplant. The decision came down to Dr Yaman and Dr Demirsoy and I choose Dr Yaman, since Dr Demirsoy did not think I was a good candidate for surgery. He felt that my donor would look overharvested and he mentioned I would proceed to Norwood 6 so he turned me down. I had about 4300 grafts with Dr Yaman and the overall experience was great although I can't be sure yet how the result will turn out yet. I would be cautious proceeding with Dr Acar or Dr Karadeniz. During my consultation with Dr Acar it became apparent that the doctor does not check out the pictures and instead leaves it for his assistants to give you a quote. I was quoted 6000 grafts at first, which immediately changed once I told them I had a prior procedure done. Also looking at my donor there is no way 6000 grafts could have been taken out in one go. With Dr Karadeniz I had a similar problem, I am a norwood 5 and I was quoted 5000 hairs, the same as you. I mentioned needing a bigger procedure of at least 4000-5000 grafts which is about 8000-10000 hairs on average and was told that even with 5000 grafts I would most likely only get 5000 hairs which did not make sense

Definitely don't rush into surgery, which was a mistake I made before my first procedure. I was desperate to get a hair transplant, but it failed miserably. I guess the other thing I will add is that results are not guaranteed. While the success rate for the procedure is high with a good doctor, things can still go wrong and you might end up worse off compared to where you started

I have been on Minoxidil since 2012, when I first noticed hair loss. I initially started with 2% but switched to 5% since I heard it was more effective. At first I was fine, but I started noticing side effects such as a painful scalp, itchiness etc.. I did not think much of it and consulted a few dermatologists that claimed everything was okay. In 2015 I had my first hair transplant, which for some reason failed and I was told I may have scarring alopecia, due to the fact that there were a lot of pimples on my scalp. The biopsy came back inconclusive so I decided to proceed with a second hair transplant. Dr Yaman brought up the fact that Minoxidil might be causing me the side effects, which makes sense. So far, the results have been quite good, but over the past month I started applying minoxidil again and noticed a lot of pimples on my recipient and donor site. I initially thought it may be due to the fact that I was four months post op and reading online pimples are quite common, but I ran out of minoxidil last week and noticed my scalp clear up a few days later. Is it possible minoxidil can cause folliculitis? If so, are there any other alternatives I can use? I am on Finasteride, which I will continue using if minoxidil is indeed causing problems

SMP should help quite a bit, but it sucks that you had to go through this. Hopefully the donor will recover as well in a few more months time. It is a good thing that you are warning others, they are one of the few clinics that always show up whenever you search for hair transplant in Turkey and this will hopefully prevent others from choosing them

I have never heard of that particular doctor, although that does not mean he is bad. If possible, consult with a few other doctors and try to save up a bit more if you can. Seems like a large area to cover so you can't have any grafts go to waste, which might happen with an unsatisfactory surgery from either doctor. Dr Yaman at 1 euro per graft and Dr Demirsoy at 1.25 euro per graft are a good budget option as well, might be a good idea to consult with them

Cinik has some good results but it is dependent on the techs you get. He was one of the few doctors I considered for my surgery as well, but there was a case on another forum, where he transplanted the crown and the results turned out quite poor. His hairline works look good but I would be a bit cautious, there have been instances where multiple hair grafts have been inserted into the hairline, making it look pluggy and fake. The last thing you want is to go through another procedure. Just do a bit more research before committing to him and if you do decide to go with him make sure it is for the exclusive package, where Dr Cinik does the incisions himself. That is one steap you don't want technicians doing

Out of everyone you have mentioned Cinik would be the best option, but even with him it is the luck of the draw. You should ask questions and that will help narrow things down. For example, I asked Cinik's clinic if they use microscopes or something similar to pick out single grafts for the hairline and they ignored that question but answered the other two in the email. There had been cases where the technicians put multiple grafts at the front of the hairline making it look unnatural. I would consult with other doctors and forget about these hairmills. If cost is an issue, I would wait a bit longer and go with someone more reputable. Also, most of these hairmills do a great job at marketing and advertising which is why they are recommended on search engines but if you dig deep you can usually find bad reviews and some of the things they talk about is downright scary, from poor hygiene to medical emergencies not being handled properly

Have you consulted with Dr Yaman or Dr Demirsoy yet? What were their suggestions? When I was deciding on my procedure, the choice came down to Demirsoy, Yaman, HLC, Pekiner or Cinik so I may be able to help out. I ultimately chose Dr Yaman and am happy with the results so far. Out of the five, only Dr Demirsoy refused to proceed with surgery. He mentioned that my donor area was weak and because I was heading for NW 6, he would not proceed with surgery. Also mentioned that if I got 4000 grafts extracted the area would be overharvested. I am about four months post op and I had 4300 grafts done via FUE and there is no sign of overharvesting, plus I can still get another 2000 -3000 grafts. Dr Demirsoy does the surgery himself, but he can be extremely conservative, which isn't a bad thing, but like in my case he underestimated the number of grafts I could get so it might not be the most efficient use of grafts. Dr Yaman estimated my donor capacity at around 6000 grafts and Dr Demirsoy did not think there was enough for 4000 grafts. I think it is important that you have in person consultations to determine your lifetime donor supply and proceed from there.

I don't think there are any other doctors to consider in that region, especially if you are looking for the doctor to do the entire procedure. Still, I think you should consult with a few more doctors, maybe not in Turkey but around Europe, particularly those that match your budget. One thing I would caution about HLC is their graft estimates are sometimes ridiculous. I consulted with them prior to my second procedure and they recommended 3600 grafts just for the hairline and temples, leaving the midscalp and crown with little to no hair. I had a procedure before so them suggesting I needed 3600 just for the hairline was ridiculous when other doctors were quoting way less. This was also suggested to a couple of others NW V and above on another forum so just be cautious. Don't use up too much grafts now in case they are needed in the future.

I agree with you, it was more painful than I had expected/read about but it was okay once the anesthesia kicked in. The work looks good so far, but I am just curious did you have loss in the crown? That seems like a lot of hair for such a small area. I would not worry about the numbers while I was there some people had 2000 grafts, 3000 grafts and some even more. So I don't believe they always quote 4000 grafts. I went in for a wash almost everyday and not everyone had over 4000 grafts. They also give out a sheet which has the breakdown of singles, doubles and multiples and for me at least it added up. They should give it to you before you leave. Hope everything turns out great for you

I had my first hair transplant around the same age as you, so I might be able to help. Personally I would suggest that you shave your head and see if you like the look. I went with an FUT, which is why I was able to maximize my donor capacity. It seems like you are thinking of getting an FUE and if I am not wrong there probably won't be enough grafts to cover your scalp if you do reach NW 6. FUT+FUE might be the way to go but again, the scar is something you have to consider. As others have suggested medication and lasers might be a good option. Try out minoxidil and see how you respond to it. If you get a transplant at this age, shock loss is a possibility and since you are not on finasteride you might end up worse off after the transplant

It is always tough when you start losing your hair at such an early age. I was in the same situation as you. From my experience don't even bother with 2% minoxidil because it is not at all effective. 5% might regrow some hair but you will most likely continue to lose your hair if the medication does not stop hair loss, which I don't think it does. Propecia would be the best bet to block DHT but at ypur age I don't know if it is a good idea. You should talk to your doctor and discuss the pros and cons. The hair at thr back and sides is permanent so it is unlikely to fall out. The other suggestion I have is to consult a hair transplant surgeon in your area, using this site to search for recommended doctors. It might be due to male pattern baldness or you could be losing hair due to other reasons. Before you proceed with treatment it is best to consult a doctor that specializes in hair loss

At this point you can't be sure about the final results, a thousand grafts might or might not give you the results you were looking for. What I found interesting is that during my consultation I received a similar estimate of 4000-6000 hairs even though I was a NW 5-6, just seems like their standard suggestion for everyone that sends them pictures. I emailed them back after getting their suggestion and told them I needed at least 4000 grafts but was told that somehow that would only result in 4000 hairs as well. Somehow 2000 and 4000 grafts give you the same amount of hair. Furthermore I was also told that the hair per graft ratio goes down after a specific number of grafts which did not make sense to me and I decided not to go through with them. Hope your results turn out great though and the best of luck to you

I had an FUE with Dr Yaman two months ago and am happy with how things are progressing thus far. I can't comment on the results but I found the clinic to be extremely professional, more so than the first clinic I went to for my first procedure. I consulted with most of the turkish doctors talked about on here so if there is anything specific you like to know feel free to ask. At the end of the day I would not limit myself to one country but instead choose a doctor that you are confident with.

Have you consulted with doctors and had them evaluate your donor area? You would probably need a lot of grafts to give you the results you want which is why an in person evaluation is important to determine what can be achieved and whether you have realistic goals. I would also look into using beard and/or chest hair to give better density in the crown. As far as the meds, I don't know if they will thicken your donor area or not but they are worth a shot anyway

You should be fine. At this point the follicles are embedded into the scalp. I would be worried if it was ten days post op, but a month out there is not much you can do to damage your grafts. Think its just normal shedding so nothing to worry about

Before I make any suggestions, have you talked to Dr Rahal to figure out why transplanted hair fell out. Could you have continued to lose your native hair, which is why it looks worse or was the hair harvested from non permanent zones. Furthermore are you on any medications? I was able to find a list of doctors on the ishrs and they had a few in Toronto so you can take a look there. Just be cautious though because only three doctors in Canada are recommended on this and other sites

I will be posting pictures and a report of my experience within a couple of days. When I booked the surgery I was told the waiting list was eight months but there was a cancellation at the last second so I was able to schedule surgery within three weeks of contacting the clinic. The day before I was supposed to meet the doctor, however he was busy with another patient and thus the consultation was scheduled for the next morning before the procedure. I was a NW 4 at the time and was only using rogaine. The doctor had to cover a large area although he did mention being able to get a density of 30-35 grafts which would have been decent. I knew a second procedure would be required although like I said the consultation was rushed and I was not really properly educated as to what I should expect. I was pretty much bald in that area so there was minimal native hair left. I emailed the clinic two years after the procedure and told them about my concerns although I was not sure how many hairs grew. Before my second procedure the doctor was able to use a camera and other things to measure density and mentioned that it was around 10-12 grafts per cm which is about a third of what the doctor told me was transplanted. As far as the doctors experience, he is recommended on here and has done great work, but I honestly don't know what went wrong. I followed the postop instructions and the clinic did all my washings until 10 days after the procedure when the scabs fell off. At the same time on the day I had my procedure done, I met someone who was having his transplant repaired since the first one failed and I have kept in touch with him and seen his posts on here. His second procedure also failed, which led me to believe it was the fault of the clinic since it is highly unlikely two procedures done on the same day would fail. I would assume not but I just found it strange how one doctor thinks the hair is thin and fine, hence requiring almost 6k grafts to fill in the hairline and midscalp whereas the second dr said i had medium hair which would allow me to get the job done with less grafts and also cover the crown with lower density.

About five years ago, I got my first transplant done by a doctor recommended on this site. Being a desperate 21 year old, I kind of rushed into surgery without doing my research and it definitely came back to bite me on the backside. I had 3300 grafts placed however for some reason only a third of the grafts grew. Of course the clinic offered a free touch up but I decided not to take them up on the offer. Before my first surgery I was told I had thin, fine hair which would require higher number of grafts to cover the area. I consulted a few other doctors since I was unhappy with the density and a couple of them felt as if the result looked natural and made it seem like the result was what I should have expected, which kind of put me off having a second procedure done. Fast forward to this year and I finally took a plunge with a clinic in Turkey back in Nov, which is also recommended on here. The difference between the two procedures was night and day and I am really happy with how things are proceeding thus far. The main reason why I waited so long was because the initial clinic I got the procedure done from claimed my hair type was unfavorable for surgery due to the nature of my hair being thin and fine as mentioned earlier. However before my second procedure in Turkey the doctor measured my hair and determined that I had good density with medium hair, instead of fine hair as the other clinic claimed. Since then I have kind of been thinking about why both doctors would have differing opinions on my hair type. The first doctor did not measure it, while the second doctor did which is why I trust the second doctor more. Is it possible that hair characteristics change over time or am I right in assuming that the preop before the first surgery was done poorly

Hi everyone! I have been lurking on the forums for a while and finally decided to create an account. I am planning on having a hair transplant in the future and need some help in choosing which clinic and country the transplant should take place in. I started losing my hair when I was 18, and initially I was only using minoxidil. By the time I was 21, I had my first hair transplant. I will admit, I kind of rushed into surgery without doing much research, which was kind of a mistake on my part. I also choose one of the best clinics in North America (rather not name which one) and was confident I would get good results. At the time, I was a norwood 4 and the plan for the surgery was to get around 4000 grafts, via FUT. Unfortunately, the doctor was only able to obtain about 3200 grafts, and with a large area to cover, the density was going to be about 35 grafts/cm^2. I was not taking propecia as I should have done, and continued to lose hair, however a year after my transplant, I noticed that the density was extremely low and I suspected the yield was about 50%, maybe higher. As most good clinics offer a free touch up, I had the option of a touch-up procedure, which I ended up declining, mainly because I was not happy with the results from the first procedure. I have mainly just wore a hat to cover my head, however if/when needed I was able to use concealers. Over the past two years, I have started looking into hair transplants once again and have had a couple of consultations.. So far I have consulted with H&W in Vancouver, which is close to where I live, as well as Dr Demirsoy, Dr Erdogan, Dr Yaman, Dr Cinik, Dr Civas,Dr Ozgur at the HLC and Dr Pekiner in Turkey. Since the consultation was done via a skype call, Dr Wong was unsure how many grafts could be obtained, as it would depend on the laxity of my scalp. As an estimate, it could be from 2000-3000 grafts, which I felt would not be enough, especially since I would have to undergo another FUT procedure. I started looking into Turkey and have so far gotten estimates from Dr Erdogan (5000 grafts), Dr Yaman(4000), Dr Ozgur(3000) and Dr Cinik(4000+). So far I am unsure which clinic to choose from the four, although I have made a list of pros and cons for each. Dr Erdogan Pros - Great results on the forums -High number of grafts will be used -Quick in response to questions -Will be able to cover most area Cons -Have seen some less than impressive results in the past few months on the forums. Since it is my second transplant procedure, I need it to pretty much be perfect since there is a low likelihood I will have donor hair left for a touch up or repair procedure in the future. -Highest cost; Just as a side note, the cost is not much of an issue for me, however I did spend close to $16,000 on the first procedure and achieved subpar results. While I am willing to pay more, if for some reason the second procedure fails I will be out almost $32,000 with not much to show for it. Dr Yaman -Able to use beard hair in case donor hair is not enough -Best online consultation; Drew on picture how the grafts will be distributed, which was a nice touch and send pictures of cases similar to mine, without me asking. -Have seen some amazing results on the forums -Cost is reasonable for the quality of work Cons -Appearance of a thin crown after procedure, unlikely to be able to provide too much density -Price seems to good to be true, which is more of a pro than a con, but still has me a bit worried Dr Cinik Pros -Ability to utilize body hair in case donor hair is not enough -Cheap packages Cons -Some reviews have me worried, due to poor results on this and other forums -Once again, price seems to good to be true Dr Ozgur at HLC Pros -Best use of body hair out of all three that offer it -Seen some great results, however there isn't many on the forums thus hard to judge -Doctor in charge of the majority of the surgery Cons -Disagreement between doctor and myself on where grafts should be placed. They want to focus on the temple and hairline, whereas I feel due to my pattern of hair loss, the grafts would be better used on the midscalp and crown region, instead of rebuilding the temples. I was told this is something that can be sorted out, however this discussion would have to take place during the pre-surgery consultation, where the distribution of grafts would be decided. -Least amount of coverage. Other doctors think I have enough hair in donor region for 4000+ grafts, but the HLC does not think this is the case. Could be a pro, since they are making sure not to overharvest the donor area, however it would require at least two procedures, a year apart So far, I am leaning towards Dr Erdogan, however I do keep changing my mind, which is why I am unsure about who I should chose. If anyone could give their pros and cons, or if anyone has had surgery with any of the doctors I mentioned above, please let me know!