harrylloyd

Hi Boys - I'm guilty of not updating my thread. I think what happens is that a lot of us use this place for moral/emotional support right after a HT and then once things start looking good we tend to abandon it. I'm guilty of that. I'm actually over 2 years out now from my first FUT but the pictures I'm posting below are at around the 10 month mark. I didn't gain much more density than what's shown in these pictures. Perhaps 5% more at max and I don't take many pictures of myself so I apologize I don't have more. However, I must also note that I just recently had my second FUT with Dr. Konior a week back. The reason for a second FUT was because I don't take any sort of meds; therefore, I know that I was going to continue losing some more hair and this is to combat that. I hate the pain and recovery aspect of it though. I might be done after this. No mas. The second procedure went just as well as the first one. I let Dr. K do his thing. I just told him that I was looking for more density overall and I ended up receiving around 2,180 grafts. Breakdown was 1 - 704; 2 - 1349; 3 - 127; Total - 2180 which is very very similar to my first FUT. Anyways, below are the pictures after the 10 month mark after FUT #1. I didn't take any pics of the scar because I didn't deem it necessary. I was easily getting away with a 3 guard without any hint at there being a scar.

After the first two weeks your grafts are rooted in and wearing a baseball cap won't hurt them. I've been told to avoid excessive sun for 3 months after the procedure. 

You're kidding right? I feel so bad for you. First of all, let's accept that whoever your surgeon was is an unethical piece of shit. I'm assuming someone in India? You're clearly thinning in the middle of your scalp yet the grafts were only placed in the front. 1000 grafts from a FUT? If you're gonna go through the pain of a FUT you need to at least get 2k grafts from it. Also, you're only two weeks out..there's no judging results at this stage. You won't know how you're progressing until the 5 month mark. But You have thinning all over your head so I don't understand what putting some grafts in the front is going to do..anyways, good luck.

As long as the Docs say you're a good candidate then go with it. But make sure you come up with a long term plan and understand what you're signing up for financially and from a recovery/pain standpoint. Good luck.

Can you post the back of your head including your neck instead of the crown? Also, only go with Dr. Konior if you can wait. I believe his waitlist at this point is around 1.5 years. Otherwise I would recommend Dr. Nadimi as well who work at Dr. Konior's practice and seems to have been trained by him and the results she's putting out are really really phenomenal as well. And I believe she's a bit cheaper. I just had my second FUT by Dr. Konior last week to add more density overall and I hate the pain and all the agony but it truly is worth it. Best of luck to you.

Dr. Konior knows best but honestly I'd say you should not go down this road. You would likely need multiple FUT sessions followed by at least one or more FUE session(s). To me your donor area looks weak, it doesn't have that dense thick look to it. But again, like others have mentioned, I would trust Dr. K to do his examination and tell you what you can achieve realistically. I hate to say it brother but accept the bald look. Just one FUT surgery is pretty damn painful. Not the actual procedure but the healing process on the incision, having difficulties sleeping, waiting, etc. Now keep in mind you'll have to  do this multiple times. So is all the pain, money, and hassle worth it to achieve a look of someone that looks like they're receding after it's all said and done? You have to answer that but for me it would be a no. Good luck man.

I traveled from within the US. Roundtrip flight was around $250, hotel cost for 6 days was around $600.

@Kiwi Guy It was $13,5 but people should also factor in cost for travel. I know fin is basically the front line of defense and proven to have great results but I can't risk the potential side effects. And I get that the chances of getting those are low but I feel like over the course of years it can't be healthy for you. People already complain about low sex drive, watery semen, gyno..it's just all too much. I can't risk stuff down there

@Phil36fromaus summarized it pretty well. Dr. Konior's initial assessment over email from just looking at pictures was that I would need 3,000 grafts (2,000 for the hairline and 500-1,000 for the middle area). However, he mentioned that a conservative approach would be to go for 2,000 as the higher you go up the more of a risk you are for shock loss. So me being risk averse, I decided to go with the conservative approach. Looking back, if I could make that decision again I would go for the 3,000 grafts. Because at this point I will more than likely need another HT in 5 years or so as I don't take Fin or Minox so if I had went for the 3,000 maybe that timeline could've been delayed further. Who knows though. If I could get even 30% more density and thickness of what I have now, I'll be happy with the result. I'm almost at 6 months so hopefully in the next 3 months, I'm hoping and praying I get more density.

Hi All,

Below are pictures at around the 2-3 month mark I think, can't really remember when I took those pics. And then followed up with pictures I took today. In all, I'm at 5 and a half months and the progress looks decent. I'm definitely hoping for some more thickness in the front and a better haircut will make things look better as well.

@RecessionProof I told him 3. Good luck! The first month is a complete drag but it gets a bit easier after that. The part I hate the most is that whenever I move my neck up, down, sideways I feel like i'm stretching the scar as it feels really tight but I guess that's expected and should hopefully go away in the coming months.

Hi All - Been traveling for work. Not much to show at this point. I'll try to post pics when I get home but just more of the same. Full on ugly duckling phase.

Congrats on your journey. Hopefully you've achieved the results you wanted. But you should know you're one of those few people that actually look good bald. Like a Bruce Willis or Jason Statham.

I created my post which you can see here: 

I had a FUT and my incision area is still tender when I rest my head on a pillow, which is expected. I also feel like my incision area is a bit tight but that's also to be expected so i'm just waiting it out at this point. Other than that I guess I'm healing well. I'm in prime ugly duckling phase right now. I do also totally trust Dr. K and it almost seems like he can do more with less grafts than other doctors but even in my case I wish we had gone more aggressive but he seemed a bit conservative so I didn't wanna push it. I've noticed that Dr. K and Dr. Nadimi (his fellow doctor) seem to stay in the 1500 range for FUE and 2000-2400 range for FUT. Just something I've noticed. Was yours a FUE this time around? I fear I'll also have to get a FUE in the future to add a bit more coverage as I don't plan on taking fin or using minox

I think you and I basically had our procedures done around the same time as I was also there in mid June. Can I ask why you only opted for 1,500 as it seems you could've done with more? Also, was this a FUE or FUT? You and I are pretty much in similar conditions. Best of luck to both of us.

So obnoxious for people to stop updating their threads. If you started it, you might as well finish it regardless of the results.

On 7/18/2018 at 5:15 PM, pkipling said:

I've had lots of success with Apple Cider Vinegar over the years. I've always had a particularly dry scalp and it's also very sensitive. In addition to avoiding certain products that I've found I'm allergic to, I will use ACV in the shower when I have a particularly dry/flakey spell and it typically clears it up by the next morning. 

I started using ACV diluted 1:1 with water and sprayed it 20 mins before showering and I felt it helped a bit but my scalp is still dry after a full week. Not sure what else to do here. I'll try doing coconut oil overnight and see along with the ACV to see if that helps.

16 hours ago, literalno said:

dr konior does all the graft placement? I thought that was the job of techs because it is far too laborious for one person.

 

Can an expert please clarify

I was pretty much out the entire procedure but from what I could tell he uses one main tech and sometimes two but I'm almost sure he was behind me the entire time.

I've been using coconut oil and it's not helping at all. I put it on and leave it in for an hour before showering. I think I may switch to spraying a 1:1 mixture of water and apple cider vinegar 10 mins before showering and see how that works for a week.

Yeah, I'm hoping that it and it will go away in a few months. Feels very strange though. I'll keep this thread updated.

On 7/8/2018 at 11:10 PM, Haircali1 said:

@gillenator that is correct it went away after a few days just as you mentioned ?. I am now 3 weeks post op and have the dry scans in the recipient area.  Dr. k mentioned to use aloe Vera gel or lotion to help and also as of a couple of days ago that it’s fine that the water from the shower head hits directly to the recipient area.  Anything else help others in this stage of post op to get rid of the dryness?  I am using the baby shampoo as I have the last few weeks

@Haircali1 Did you figure out something that's working for your dry scalp? I'm also having the same issue. I'm thinking of applying a mix of coconut oil and apple cider vinegar on the scalp for one hour before showering.

This is my post. You can't really see it but I can totally feel it and it has me a little worried. I also have a little bit of a dry scalp going on which isn't helping. Any recommendations on that?

I just got a FUT a month ago and I have the same issue going on. If I run my hand through my recipient area it feels really bump like a cobblestone street and in fact there's something called "cobblestoning" in the HT world which is not good. I reached out to my surgeon and he said that this is because the tissue in that area is still healing and can take up to a year.

But i'm curious what others have to say about this.

I just posted my thread. Hoping for all the best.