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So yes I understand that a hair transplant is the illusion of density. My question is, if my hair is calculated at 75 per cm2 and i get a hair transplant at 50 per cm2 then shouldn't my hair appear pretty much the same as native, as from everything I've heard, you need to have less than half your native density for the naked eye to even tell that hair is being lost

So what is the common census on when the shed can start post operation? What is the earliest one could expect shedding to occur, I have read so many different things, from a week, or two weeks, to when crusts are removed (its at this part that I've read a lot of people freaking out, but should only worry if there was blood involved), to a month after, just curious!

Thanks! Gonna order today!

can anyone recommend a real good neck pillow?

What really sealed the deal for me is the growth guarantee, everyone knows any dr. can have a great, subpar, or even bad result, I just couldn't find myself pulling the trigger with that kind of money on a doc with no growth guarantee

haha no different Aaron

So after all my consults, for his track record of results, ease of contact, (his patient advisor Aaron was so quick and helpful with responses) price, and the fact that my work is mostly around the hairline, I have decided to go with Dr. Rahal, made my deposit today, and in May I am heading to Ottawa!

How involved is Rahal in the procedure?

I just got my quote back today from Dr. Rahal, I have heard a lot of good things about him, and his quote is for 1600 grafts, and it is in my range of being able to afford, with his guarantee and track record I am strongly leaning towards him, can anyone shed some further light on this Dr?

Honestly Nadimi was the first to quote me such a low amount of grafts, I guess that makes a big difference, so I am actually considering some other Dr's now. My approach has always been to fill in the temples, but Cinik, and Erdogan both quoted me in the 2k' range, I am still waiting to hear back from a few clinics before I make my choice

I had a Skype meeting with Nadimi, she seemed to really know what she was talking about and confident in her work, She really believes I will need no more than 1200 grafts to fill in my temples

Im not continuing to bald no, but I have already balded, it was just very early in life, 14 years ago, I would still call it a receded hairline, not a mature hairline, but to each his own, i prefer the sound of mature hairline lol, but the recession is further back than what I prefer to have, I have pictures on here if you care to take a look, but nonetheless, it is what it is, good luck!

Yeah that I'm not sure about, nobody in either side of my family has experienced crown loss, just a very early in life receding hairline that stops at a point, for me I've had the same hair since about 18 years old, my dad said his was the same way, and I can see both of my uncles were the same way, as well as my pap, who had more similar hair characteristics to mine being thick and curly

Yeah I have good density, thick curly hair

I dont know if it's odd or not, but everyone in my family recedes to a norwood 2/3 very early around the age of 16-18 and we all have kept our remaining hair, my grandfather that passed at 74, and my uncle who just passed at 63 never receded past a 3, but the age where recession happened was extremely early. I dont know if that shed's any light or not, but every male in my family is like that. I can't really speak of my mom's side as there is virtually no recession in my mothers side, but I as well have gotten my fathers side, I was 15/16 and I rapidly receded to a 2/3 and I am 30 now and my hair hasn't changed a bit and if family history is to guage the future, I will not have any serious further recession.

So everyone obviously wants their transplant to be nice and dense, but when is dense packed, well too dense? So in my consults I have come to terms that in the US, 50 grafts per cm2 is a dense packed hairline, but in places like turkey, I see they are going for 70+ in cases, while some yield good results, I cant help but to think this may be the reason that people are becoming disappointed in their results. When its about graft survival most of the US doc's I have spoken with say that beyond 50 you are suffocating the grafts from proper blood flow and they are dying. The Dr's are very reluctant to go beyond this mark most of the time as I have asked if they could do even 60, they fear for survival of the grafts. The work always looks very clean, atleast what I say from these turkish dr's but could it be too dense packed and starving the grafts of blood flow? I know that everyone reacts differently and there are some who get these mega packed and have outstanding results, but lately I have been seeing a lot of disappointed people and it just makes me a bit curious. If you go for one session at 50 grafts per cm2 , do you risk losing those grafts if you try to pack in more grafts in another session?

And Dr. Cinik does 6 patients a day if anyone wants to know, he also says his tech's all have experience of at least 8 years.

These are my pictures, my hair is wet out of the shower straight under the bathroom light and flash, The results I have seen from Dr. Cinik here, and on the international forums have been really good, and though they are few, Nadimi's results that I have seen have been great, plus she is Konior's student, and she does each graft extracted then implanted. I have been to a few Dr's for in person consultations as well after a reviewer thought I might have miniaturization on top but I have been clarified that I do not have any miniaturization, it is just the flash and the lighting of the bathroom with wet hair, no doctor's have yet to recommend me start on propecia as they have said my hair that I have looks very healthy, however, $10 a graft is just not in my price range. I have thought that Dr. Cinik's results have been very good, which why I had him as one of my prospects and the e-mails have been consistent, informative and quick in response. Nadimi' as well has been very helpful and she does seem very knowledable on what she is doing, furthermore every result I have seen from her it looks as though pretty much every graft has grown and that in itself is important, but like always very open to input!

So I have narrowed down my search to these two Dr's. I have seen work I like from both of them. Yes, I would be saving a lot of money with Dr. Cinik, but with Nadimi I would be the only patient and her place and stick method with manual punch seems to be a good option. They both seem to be producing very good results. What I am asking for is if any patients that have had these Dr's that may not have posted or possibly something that I've missed (I've been scanning forums like a madman) Personally reach out to me with your experiences BAD OR GOOD because I am trying to get as most in depth as I can before I make my decision, its been about a year, year and a half in the search and after my skype and possibly in person meeting with Nadimi later this month, I will be booking with one of the two, thanks so much forum has been much help!

It seems like nobodly wants to really speak up about the method of inserting the grafts into the recipient site for the Western Dr's here, I'm going to message them each individually, but I'm pretty sure they mostly use foreceps, though I am surprised with how active some of these members are who have had procedures, and as many views as this post has had that people are reluctanct to comment, however, A few e-mails will clarify. If results are being produced consistently, I dont think the method really matters.

I believe the one moderator had his transplant done by Depp, what was the method used to implant the grafts into the recipient site?

I know there has to be some patients here that have had these Dr's that can shed some light on this

I was told by this clinic that my technicians that would be working on me have 8 years working experience I think that could be why I keep seeing such good results coming out of this clinic, even if it does have techs working

Id be curious, who that's had a Depp transplant or a Hasson & Wong, or Dr. Nadimi, how do they implant their grafts into the recipient?

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