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I will post some before and after Photos The Doctor said my Grafts had a good Quality and meds are not needed Furthermore why meds if the donor hair hair is supposed to be DHT resistant?

Hi, I had a transplant 15 months ago by reputable surgeon which member of the IAHRS. I have and have no donor miniaturization (even confirmed by several othe doctors) Nevertheless, 9 months post OP my transplanted hair started to fall out an miniaturize until now. Even now I am shedding a lot and the hair which falls out is very thin and colorless and thin at root and dark and thick at the other end. I never had hairs with such a contrast. How is it possible? I am on no medication due to side effects

Well I do not think that my side effects are strange or that it is totally safe I never had libido or ED problems before I took it in very low doses. After I dropped it this year for several months my Libido was almost as it was at age 23 (but my hair fell out also). I am even now experiencing Low Libido on the topical version when I use it every day Different people have different DHT levels an inhibitors Just check out these links: https://forum.propeciahelp.com/ https://www.pfsfoundation.org/

I already tried that dose and got immediately sides, I think that's too high

Okay I will do Blood Test and then maybe start with 0.25mg per week I hope it will not get worse

Thanks for your honest answer. I think it I a gamble in my situation. I don't get it why the break caused such a massive side effect I am thinking more of a hair wig system before shaving my head

Hey there,I took oral finasteride at a very low dose (0.25mg every third day) for more than 12 months. It stopped my hair loss almost completelyAfter some time I realised that my libido went massivly down and that I felt more numb during sex so I decided to stop taking it. After 2 months my libido came back totally.But after 4 months a short but massive shedding process began so I tried to get back on it.After taking one dose of 0.25mg I was unable to get an erection for several days which was really weirdAfterwards I tried 0.125 Mg (an 8th of a 1mg pill) and got almost the same side effect!How is this possible? I really regret that I stopped taking it in the first place du to lower side effects in the beginningAs a result I started to use 1% topical Finasteride Gel daily from Farmacja Parati for 7 weeks now. It did not stop the hair loss and I even have the impression of some shedding. The sides are lower than on any oral Finasteride dose: An erection is possible but the libido is still decreased as on not being on Finasteride totallySo my questions are:How comes that I get worse side effects after the oral Finasteride break?Should I give oral Finasteride another try? If so, at which dose and how long I take it to hope that the sides will disappear?How long should I try topical finasteride to see if there is any effect?Are there alternatives to Finasteride which may give me less sides? I am applying Minoxidil 5% daily since 7 weeks on the back of my head but I did not see any results at the moment (despite the shedding in the front where I apply only the topical finasteride)

Option C does a manual approach. I could ask him for doing the D Approach. But to be honest I really do not want to waste too much head hair for the donor since I will need it for future balding. So maybe 400 Grafts BHT for the scar and 500 Grafts for the front without the removal. As from the BHT perspective I am asking myself what can go wrong despite that it would not cover too much of the Scar. I have some chest and beard hair which I don't need and a lot of straight thin long arm hair (and tons of curly long leg hair). Doctor A said leg hair would a good option which Doctor B and C said is not true In the front I am really concerned about wrong direction of the hairline. Which doctors are known most for repairs in europe? I am a bit biased about Turkish doctors after the first result by turkish technicians Waiting 6 more months is also a good advice

Thanks for all the feedback guys, I really appreciate it! The problem with Doctor D is that he only works with a micro motor which scares me since my last experience and since I do not have too much donor hair left with my very low hair density. What makes me wonder is the difference of hair needed for the frontal area, Doctor D said 500 Grafts, Doctor C 800/900 Grafts and Doctor B 1200 Grafts @VicTNYC I really have no photo because I used to hide these areas. I attached 2 photos 2 months after the procedure (but my hair is dry and I was on 0,25 Mg Finasterid E3d since several months) @Phil36fromaus I totally agree with your opinion of a conservative approach since I did not figure out yet how to stop the hairloss atm. Both trouble me, the donor and the hairline I have to use topic every day in the front otherwise it looks terrible with dry hair. I have no grown out photos. The donor looks worst at a hair length of 0,9 - 1,3 cm. If it is longer than 1,3cm than it is okay but I always prefer a more short hair cut. The barber said (pics have been taken one day after the barber visit) that below the donor it is 4mm, 7mm on the scar and 4mm on the sides around the scar, so he did a pretty good job for blending it in. I dont know if it makes sense to reveal the name of the doctors here publicly since some of them are here on the forum. Therefore I do not want to reveal their names and end up that I am unable to receive a correction from anyone or not from the preffered surgeon. I opt more for BHT first since it doesnt have to be renewed every year like SMP. SMP would be my last solution if the BHT fails to the job. Would be BHT a better solution for the donor scar than head hair? My Body Hair is much more dark and thicker than the donor hair. I will ask each doc for some photos of similar cases. Price is not the determining factor, I will not repeat the same mistake as in the first place this is why I am posting and asking you here and only visiting the most recommended surgeons in western europe. @ILtrooper I know that I am lucky given the fact that a technician performed the job although a doctor has been promised, never the less I have to pay a repair procedure which will probably cost me more than 7000,-€ at minimum. As I said SMP will be last solution due to the highest costs of renewing it every year

Well there is no before photo So which surgeon approach would you follow to fix this?

Hey there, I need your advise in order to repair my botched Hair Transplant from exactly 12 months ago See here: I totally regret that I did no proper research and fell for their Youtube Marketing Strategy. Now they destroyed half of my Donor area Infos about my hair status and myself: Living in Europe Age 32, Hairloss advanced at the age of 27 when I went regularly to the gym and increased daily protein (slowly receeding Hairline) Family history: Father has a high forehead and also miniaturization (age 58), Grandfather from mothers side was bald completely at the age of 22 Medication experience: 10 years ago: Finasterid oral 1mg for only 3 weeks. Result: Total erectile dysfunction 1 year ago: Finasterid oral 0,25 mg eod / e3d for 6 months (seemed to work, I lost not more than 10 hairs per day). Side effects: Low Libido, less pleasure during sex, low energy and seeing many things negatively (not exactly depression but towards it). Stopped using it for 3 months: Total shedding and thinning of the complete hair - Wanted to start again with 0,25 mg eod / e3d. Result after 2 pills: Total erectile dysfunction Testing medication at the moment: Since 1 month: Topical Finasteride Gel 1% on the hairline and crown - no effect yet on the hair yet , no side effects Since 1 month: Topical Minoxidil 5% twice per day on the crown - no effect yet (not even shedding) 1-2 times per week: Ket Shampoo I am thinking of a second try with 0,125 Mg oral Finasteride every 3 days Infos about the botched transplant: - Unknown Clinic performed by turkish technicians - 12 Months ago - Supposed to be 1500 grafts but is probably less - Performed with a Micro Motor - Half of the donor area is destroyed/patchy - Hairs/plugs are growing all in a wrong angle - Some multiple Grafts in the front - Not enough density, approximately around 30cm² Surgeon Approaches: I went to various here recommended surgeons in the forum which are located in western Europe (and one in Asia) and everyone suggested a almost completely different approach and other amount of needed grafts so I am a bit confused. I do not want to mention their names because I believe all of them are skilled enough and trust them - the question is which approach I should choose. Measured Hair density: Donor and sides around 40cm² - Hairline around 60cm² (but mostly single grafts) due to miniaturization My aim is to repair my donor area and the hairline. Attached are photos of my current status Doctor A (Radical Approach): FUE 2500 Grafts (1000 Grafts of Head Hair 1500 Grafts of Body hair) - No removal of wrong growing plugs - Increase the Density in the Hairline - Lower the Hairline by 1 centimeter (total hairline length is 17 cm) - Repair the Donor area with body hair Costs: 16.000 € Doctor B: Big Plug removal + FUE 1200 Grafts (Head Hair) + SMP (After that optional 400 grafts Body Hair) - Removal of the plugs 1cm after the start of the hairline and place them into the donor scar - After 9 Months place 1200 Grafts into the frontal area in the right direction - SMP in the Donor Costs: 13.000 € (Body Hair not included) Doctor C (conservative approach): Low Plug removal + FUE 800 Grafts Head Hair (After that optional 400 grafts Body Hair) - Removal of 200 plugs (moslty multiples and the most obviously set in the wrong direction in the front) and place them into the donor - After 9 months correct the Hairline with 900 Grafts of Head Hair Costs: 7400€ (Body Hair not included) Doctor D (conservative approach): No Plug removal: FUE 1000 Grafts Head Hair - Place 500 Grafts into Donor Area - Place 500 Grafts into recipient area for higher density Costs: 5500€ Which Approach would you choose due to my limited donor resources and depleted donor? I am very confused due to the different estimations of needed grafts for the front Side Note: The donors looks better on the photos than in reality because these pics were made with flash + the hair is wet so it blends in better to the untouched area. The longer the hair in the donor area, the more it looks patchy

A doctor suggested to do a PRP treatment to reduce a permanent shockloss as qiuckly as possible. Do you think it makes sense?

Ok thanks for the good words. I will try to relax and wait

Can anyone recommend a surgeon who can fix this with a FUE or BHT?

No it was micro motor by a technician