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Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
Panamera13 replied to Melvin- Admin's topic in Off-Topic Posts
I hope you stay and any ad hominem remarks are removed and doesn't happen again. -
Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
Panamera13 replied to Melvin- Admin's topic in Off-Topic Posts
ad hominem should not be allowed on any forum. I hope @Melvin-Moderator sends the right msg. -
Also this is NOT a repair case, it's a Re-Do case. In my superficial opinion, the grafts were not placed correctly or deep inside and hence they were never "implanted"; probably this was caused by a new tech but that's my guess/theory.
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I have no skin in the game here @Badresults @California as I don't know any of you but I give the benefit of doubt on the results to Dr Bhatti (pending all the test results etc) and lay full 100% blame on him for the criminal harassment. As we all know, Shera is just a fall guy aka pawn. The best way to resolve this for both parties is to give FULL refund to the patient so he can move on with life + an apology on the harassment. With that he can move on with his life and so can the doc. If the doc doesn't agree to this, I hope the patient does file an official criminal complaint with the police. There's nothing legal/consumer court related stuff in this case...this case is about harassment and blackmail. In this scenario, Dr Bhatti will lose more patients and for overseas patients, he might be a complete no-no (I can vouch that I did look him up and will not even consider him one bit anymore).
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Wrong approach @Badresults in my opinion. Consumer court is for results of the HT i.e. you didn't get the right product for the price. For this the doc can argue blah blah.....till many years. The issue in this case is criminal harassment, for that you have to go to police.
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Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
Panamera13 replied to Melvin- Admin's topic in Off-Topic Posts
People is Asia (China/Singapore/HK/Japan etc.) have been wearing masks at public places including airports since that last SARS epidemic happened; many have been continuing that practice ever since. We might be the same next year and beyond.... -
You have such a good donor and your hair loss seems to have stabilized. First and foremost, go somewhere else and get the "test batch of 100 grafts" done to make sure no issues with your scalp etc. Also do any other tests recommended by doc. Doc doesn't owe you a refund and he already specific that so no point in harping over that. Then make sure you file a harassment police criminal complaint against the clinic. I think the rep lives overseas but it doesn't matter - let the judge decide if he acted alone or not. There is absolutely NO way a doc or his rep should contact your employer. Period.
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Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
Panamera13 replied to Melvin- Admin's topic in Off-Topic Posts
Here is Texas, even last month during the quarantine period, the people in parks were NOT wearing masks. When a county judge passed an order to making wearing a mask mandatory many of my friends got offended saying - The government can't take away our freedom and it's against the constitution. Also, Costco has made it mandatory to wear masks before coming in and are even giving you a mask if you don't have but some of my friends call it taking away freedom. PS: I wear a mask wherever I go since it;s not a big deal anyway, my freedom/rights/constitution are not bothered much if I wear a mask for my or others safety. -
This contacting employer thing is crazy; I hope people read this thread before chosing DarlingBuds. So, I blame the doc and Darlingbuds just for the harassment (Shera is just a fall guy, a pawn). I, however, don't blame the doc for poor results since he's had some stellar results so your case is definitely an outlier. So when you go for a fix somewhere else, I highly recommend that you do 100 odd grafts to make sure there's no underlying issue. Also, from the docs reply I didn't quite understand what could be the "root cause" so you can do other tests as needed based on your research. Regarding police complaint on harassment, you should definitely do that.
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The Doc refused the refund and unfortunately, he is probably within his rights since it's not an official policy. But you should definitely make a police complain on harassment...no one should call your employer to "tarnish image of company". Ridiculous.
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Like I said earlier it's none of my business but curious as to why would someone contact your employer and if they did..what did Shera say?
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Refund should be voluntary on part of the doc in "goodwill". Even BMW has a goodwill program wherein if an expensive part fails just outside warranty, they still take care of it (legally they don't have to and that's why it's called goodwill). In US, refund for signing an NDA is called "settlement" and is legal and happens thousand times a day across US everyday. If @Badresults were in the US, he could've gotten refund + damages for blackmailing + potential jail time for the rep for criminal intimidation. Also, in US doc can't share patient details with anyone outside without their consent (not even with the wife unless specifically mentioned). So there's an extra malpractice suit there as well. Dr Bhatti is lucky he's not in US. Also none of my business and this is me being nosy @Badresults - What did Shera say to your employer? I mean if someone called my boss/company and said - hey this guy got an HT at our clinic and it making noise on social medial - they'd hang up and probably say someone stupid and crazy was asking for you and that's it. I'm wondering why would someone reach out to one's employer - what were they trying to do?
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Maybe other doctors on this forum can chime in or even the patients who might have experienced it before. What are the reasons that transplanted might NOT grow? There's no point of a repair when you don't know what the issue was. You might want go for 100 grafts next time to make sure they actually grow to confirm it was an implanting error on the doc. Do you any other skin conditions? Folleculitis or Lichen Plaopilaris
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Well the doc came here and said - No Refund. wow. I didn't expect that. Being a well known doc and having 1-2 bad cases out of 100's, not sure what he will gain by keeping that money. He'd probably lose more patients. So, I really didn't expect it. Also, I thought the doc would explain the main ques - WHY are the results so bad? Was the procedure done incorrectly or OP had scalp issue or some other. I really would like to know why hair didn't grow. @Badresults - What do you think went wrong and why hair didn't grow (other than anesthesia)
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Everyone knows what's going on. At this time work directly or through the forum to see if you can get a refund. I can't speak for anyone else, but see if Melvin can help (take it as advice). For now, don't create more negative press until you get a final reply on the refund after which you can sue/take him to court whatever. For now, try to seek a refund and move on - your main goal is to fix your hair and move on with life. You have a good donor and you should be able to do it.
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At this time - ask for full refund from doc in return for no more communication on this matter. See if he agrees. Anyway - he is still on the recommended list since he claimed he didn't know about the blackmail (which is a lie so Shera becomes the fall guy). Use the refund money to fix the front and move on.
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First of all most importantly I think your front can be fixed by some other doc since you seem to have a good donor. On the bad result, are you saying hair didn't grow because of general Anaesthesia (I'm just asking, I have no clue)
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I'm surprised at your result since you seem to have a good donor area and you were just bald in the front - your case should have been a home run. What do you think happened? Were the grafts out too long and didn't survive or something else.
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What the heck does a hair transplant have to do with employer or family or friends or the government? What did Shera say to your employer anyway?
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If the doc does NOT condone this behavior, then this tells about the doc's ethics too and he should be removed from recommended surgeons list. Not sure if you're referring to reps suspension or docs suspension.
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Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
Panamera13 replied to Melvin- Admin's topic in Off-Topic Posts
Came here to see if there are any discounts that the expensive surgeons might be giving because of the corona virus only to see this is a political thread but it's fun. First of all the president has already said that there is a solution and medication available i.e. Hydroxy Chloroquine. He even re-tweeted some dem lawmaker touting its success in saving her life. So if we already have the medication, why are people dying. Does this game changer medication take time to work? -
Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
Panamera13 replied to Melvin- Admin's topic in Off-Topic Posts
I only believe the russian media reports and not BBC LOL -
Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry?
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The ventilator worked out better for Boris Johnson then huh. -
advanced NW levels
Panamera13 replied to Hair4Days's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
Because of the scar? I see many people with shaven head and have a scar which means the HT didn't work. At least with FUE, you have a bald head without scar. -
advanced NW levels
Panamera13 replied to Hair4Days's topic in Hair Restoration Questions and Answers
I'm advance diffused thinner. See pic. I spoke to two top docs and they both said go FUT and I refuse to go that route. I'd rather have a decent result with FUE then have an awesome result with FUT. I just don't want to do the scar thing. Also, no "top" doc in US/Canada uses body hair. Indian, Turkish docs do that and I'm not sure why US/Canada docs don't because it seems to work. My goal is to go FUE 3000 in front/mid and leave the crown for two years down the line (to be filled by body hair). One thing I'm not sure about is donor capacity - some docs have FUE with 7-9K grafts, which I guess is just luck for those high NW guys.