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TrixGlendevon

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  1. Are you just asking this hoping somebody will say you should go to Turkey? I would choose the clinic based on several patient posted results over a number of years, and not just cherry picking the good ones people post but looking at the bad ones too (all clinics have them, even the best ones). That could mean you end up in NY, Istanbul or a third country city.
  2. I would do what I did for the first transplant and save money and go to your first choice based on result rather than cost or geographical location.
  3. My two favourites in Europe are still Hattingen (where I had both mine done - albeit FUT and I assume you want FUE) and Feriduni. Hattingen has their prices on their website so you can see what it would cost vs Bissanga. I would avoid the UK clinics.
  4. I am unsure what the logic of this is. If you have scar correction, you are already i) getting another scar and ii) having a small FUT as there are always grafts that come with it (600 in your case as per your above post). Why did you not just get a larger FUT this time and save yourself yet another surgery in the form of an FUE in the future? Congrats either way though - the crown looks good. Will you be post any pictures of the front? What is the plan now with your hair as it is long at the front and sides and obviously cut very short for the surgery on the crown?
  5. Couldn't agree more with you - this position is ridiculous. If money and travel, time, visas etc were no issue, I think most people would choose H&W. Even the clinics I consulted with (and the one I ended up going with) said they are the best, and I was not consulting with no-name hair mills. H&W uses an army of techs. Their results are amazing and have been for years, showing consistency. This is a disaster waiting to happen.
  6. Don't choose your clinic based on geography. That is a recipe for disaster. It will be cheaper and better on the Continent!
  7. Could not disagree more with that equation. I have never understood this weird obsession with who does what part of the procedure and that the doctor doing it all is somehow better. The person who is best at doing that job in the procedure should be the one doing it. I just want a good result and it does not matter if it is the doctor, the techs or the guy in the alleyway doing it. Hasson and Wong is probably the best clinic in the world and they use an army of techs. Hattingen, techs. Feriduni, techs. Look for consistently good results over a substantial period of time (say, 5 years) and if it is a tech heavy clinic, ask them how long their techs have been with them to ensure it is the same techs that produced the previous results you have seen.
  8. Picking a clinic based on location alone is silly, especially a location with such mediocre options if you take everything into account (price, results, length of time in business etc). You even admit that you can get a better result if you go to the Continent. Belgium and Switzerland have very decent options and you can get to Belgium and back by train from London. You also say you know it will be cheaper for the better result but then are reluctant to go for the best option of your shortlist based on price. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Just bite the bullet and go to the Continent.
  9. UK are clinics are expensive and do not offer good results as compared to competition on the continent. You can either pay the same on the continent and get a much better result, or pay less for the same result. Either way, poor value for money. It will probably take you as long to get to Belgium, Spain, Portugal or Switzerland in the plane as it would in the train to wherever the UK based clinic is. I am yet to see a transplant from the UK that I think is amazing.
  10. Your temple points look fine. I have had two FUTs and the scar is non-detectable, even to my girlfriend when she looks for it who knows it is there and where it is. Sounds to me like Mavigo went to a bad clinic, not that FUT is to blame.
  11. Actors also wear hair pieces for their Hollywood shots - Travolta is renowned for it. Google John Travolta hairpiece and look on Google images. His hair changes with every red carpet event.
  12. My brother went from close to NW1 to NW2-2.5 in terms of the hairline in his mid 40s. Has hair everywhere else.
  13. Disagree. My girlfriend knows nothing about hair transplants and we saw somebody the other day and she said the guy's hair looks weird but couldn't make the connection. The problem was the same: hairline was too straight and the surgeon had put multis into the hairline so it just looked like a wall. Similarly I was watching a boxing podcast the other day and Spencer Oliver was on it. First thing I noticed (not an average Joe, admittedly) and it was the same issue. Straight hairline and too "thick" at the front with too many multis. Not good work. What didn't help with Spencer is that he was losing his hair at the back. Nobody has an 18 year old hairline and a balding crown in nature. The whole thing just looked weird. For the OP, some others have said nobody will notice but I think it is noticeable (supported by the fact people IRL have told you they think it is noticeable) and I think it is worth doing the repair for. However, do not put more singles in front of an already low hairline - this will also look unnatural. Get FUE and have them take the multis from the hairline and put them behind and then cherry pick singles from the back and sides and put them in the front. It is annoying (and costly) but not the end of the world. I also like the advice above of have them take some of the grafts from the temples and giving you a NW2 slight recession. As you age, this will look more age appropriate and natural. Other than that, I think they did a good job. Lots of density and it seems all the grafts have grown through. One more minor procedure with a very good clinic and you will look amazing and completely natural. Good luck!
  14. Wait a few more months. Your donor has recovered, so it is reparable in that you have enough grafts to give you more coverage if you go to the right clinic. IMO you need to be having FUT for your next procedure, if you have one at all. As others have said, it is not necessary to have another as it looks natural. Sorry again this happened to you.
  15. Yeah the doctor said 3-4 months too. Was just wondering what other people's experience was. I am not on meds and not going to start them either. This is my second procedure and I do not remember the shockloss being this bad last time. There is some directly on the back around the scar which is barely noticeable and then the area in question. I don't care if it is temporary and can wait the 3-4 months (it has already been two months), I am slightly concerned it will be permanent shockloss though. It is quite a large area. Funnily enough, I had a very small area of shockloss in close to where it is now last time and this was permanent.
  16. Hello! I recently had a second FUT surgery and have some shock loss in the donor in one isolated section. How long on average does it take to grow back? Chances of it never growing back at all?
  17. I am very sorry this happened to you. I think given the level of your hair loss, an FUT would be more appropriate. You may want to look at Hattingen in that case (I am biased as I have had two procedures done there). They do a lot of repairs and are experts in high yield FUT. Another clinic I think does great repair work is Feriduni, maybe add them to the least of clinics you are considering. Either way, I hope you get the result you wanted eventually and I am very impressed with how well you took this.
  18. Sensible! I am thinking the same thing. I will speak to Sever and Laura next month and see what they say, but I want my chat with them to be a conversation and not them just telling me stuff. Hence why I wanted to see what other people's experiences are/have been. I have been given some good advice/information in the private messages and this seems to confirm that. It would still be great to hear from other people that have had it done or from doctors though. Can never have too much information!
  19. Depends on the surgeon for the ugly duckling phase. Mine was barely noticeable even immediately after the surgery last time. Feel free to check my post (with photos) about when it was done. Very clean work. My point for question 3 is if I shave it, not just day to day. I have had an FUT before so I know the score. Re. Q1: Yeah this is what I thought too but somebody has inboxed me and said that if you have longer hair for the surgery, it allows the surgeon to follow the hair direction etc. My whole hair now, minus the forelock (which is starting to thin and therefore the most likely candidate for shockloss) is transplanted hair.
  20. Hi! I am going to get a second surgery after my first with Hattingen. Probably this summer. I have a question though. I spoke to Sever several weeks ago online and he said we could do the surgery without me cutting my hair. I am trying to work out the best way to manage the surgery as I have a high profile job. I can take probably 6-8 weeks off work (probably 6 and not 8 ) by a combination of holidays and working from home. I have a few questions: 1) Do people think there is a risk of an inferior result of doing the surgery without cutting my hair i.e. having to work around the hair I have already in place (all transplant hair at this stage)? People not noticing I have had it done is one thing, but ultimately I am doing this to look better so if there is a risk I won't after, I may bite the bullet and shave my head (or at least cut the hair short). What are people's opinion/experience with this? 2) What are the chances of shock loss with the transplanted hair in my hairline and mid-scalp? 3) Anybody who can offer another strategy to minimise people knowing what has happened? Thanks Trix
  21. Another fantastic result (already!) by Hattingen. This will be mega when it is finished. Any updates? After three years since my first one (I was the first to post on this forum I think), I am going back for my second pass at some time this year for the crown and to thicken the hairline. I hope to get 3000 grafts and this will be my final one. I will do an in-person consultation this month.
  22. Thanks both! I very much doubt I have any native hairs left at the top and would now be a NW5 if I hadn't had my first megasession. Basically, you have both confirmed what I thought. If there is less shockloss, and there is likely to be less because the hairs now are healthy transplanted hairs, then the ugly duckling phase will be not as bad either. This will be my last procedure so I am thinking of how best to manage it with work and other social engagements (weddings 3 months after I will get it done this year).
  23. Hi! I have a few questions for those who have had a second FUT procedure. I am seriously considering a second procedure of around 3000 grafts to add density to the hairline and put grafts in the crown. My questions are: 1) What was the shockloss like in the recipient area? 2) Was the ugly duckling phase better, worse or the same as the first procedure? I would hope that the new transplanted hairs, being hidden amongst the older 4,400 transplanted hairs from the first procedure (I doubt I have any native ones left now), would not be seen very easily and so the ugly duckling phase would be less noticeable. However, this will only be true if there is limited shockloss in the recipient otherwise the new transplanted hairs will not be hidden. As the transplanted hairs from the first procedure are healthy hairs, I would expect there to be limited shockloss, on paper at least. What are other people's experiences with this. Thanks in advance Trix
  24. I would say you are a Norwood 4 and progressing towards a NW5. Once this happens, you will need 7000-8000 grafts to get a good result for the whole head. You need to consult with different doctors, who will then give you very different quotations in terms of grafts. This will not be done in one procedure, given that you are not on meds, as the hair you have left will continue to fall out and so you will need other procedures to transplant it back in. Your initial result will look great (if you go to a great doctor) because you still have a forelock and hair in the mid-scalp. Over time, it will look less thick as the native hair falls out. Personally, I think FUT in your case as you can maximise your donor (and you will need it), there is lower transection and if you choose the right clinic (H&W, Hattingen etc), you can get a megasession meaning fewer procedures. As far as I know, there is only one good clinic that does megasessions for FUE (Eugenix) but I would personally avoid as I wouldn't go outside of North America or Europe for this. If you continue off meds, you will need to accept a more conservative hairline or a less full crown as you won't have enough grafts to get a low hairline plus a full looking crown. However, having a really low hairline and a receding crown also wouldn't be a natural look either as this is not how men lose their hair IRL. Take into account though that meds come with the risk of side effects (Google: post-finasteride syndrome) and their efficacy diminishes with time too. You need to start a shortlist and start talking to doctors/clinics.
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