TrixGlendevon

If you are going to keep your short, have you considered another surgery with a good clinic taking grafts from the sides to put in the back?

Just because 1000 went in doesn't mean 1000 came out. If they took out a 1000 and noticed that 1 or 2 in every 3 or 4 are damaged owing to poor technique, they could have taken more out to compensate and still get you your 1000 in the temples. Was the temple growth good at least?

I disagree with your methodology and agree with Gatsby. The methodology, for those that want the best result, should be to identify the best clinics based on consistently good patient posted reviews over a number of years and seeing how the clinic deals with bad results, which inevitably happen at all clinics from time to time. This should be independent of geography. Then save money so you can afford it there/at one of the ones on the shortlist. It is better to wait a few additional months so you can get the best transplant. As Gatsby says, it will be false economy in the mid- to long-term if you will need corrective surgery. You also have a finite number of grafts so only get 2-3 bites of the cherry, irrespective of whether they are aesthetic or corrective surgeries. Make them good ones. Also agree with Gatsby that the aim should be higher than average. Most people have bad-average transplants and this forum is a very small subsection of a much larger population. How many people do you think went to the same clinic as famous sports stars etc. just because they had gone there without seeing the full result and without doing their own research. Most people are sheep. Anecdotal evidence: I recently went to a wedding with my wife and saw an absolutely horrendous hair transplant. It was so unnatural it was untrue. It was a very low (unnaturally so) very straight hairline with many multi-hair grafts in the hairline. It stood out like a sore thumb. The guy definitely used a lot of grafts to get there and will now need to have corrective surgery for additional cost, and potentially grafts.

Are you just asking this hoping somebody will say you should go to Turkey? I would choose the clinic based on several patient posted results over a number of years, and not just cherry picking the good ones people post but looking at the bad ones too (all clinics have them, even the best ones). That could mean you end up in NY, Istanbul or a third country city.

I would do what I did for the first transplant and save money and go to your first choice based on result rather than cost or geographical location.

My two favourites in Europe are still Hattingen (where I had both mine done - albeit FUT and I assume you want FUE) and Feriduni. Hattingen has their prices on their website so you can see what it would cost vs Bissanga. I would avoid the UK clinics.

I am unsure what the logic of this is. If you have scar correction, you are already i) getting another scar and ii) having a small FUT as there are always grafts that come with it (600 in your case as per your above post). Why did you not just get a larger FUT this time and save yourself yet another surgery in the form of an FUE in the future? Congrats either way though - the crown looks good. Will you be post any pictures of the front? What is the plan now with your hair as it is long at the front and sides and obviously cut very short for the surgery on the crown?

Couldn't agree more with you - this position is ridiculous. If money and travel, time, visas etc were no issue, I think most people would choose H&W. Even the clinics I consulted with (and the one I ended up going with) said they are the best, and I was not consulting with no-name hair mills. H&W uses an army of techs. Their results are amazing and have been for years, showing consistency. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Looks great congrats

Don't choose your clinic based on geography. That is a recipe for disaster. It will be cheaper and better on the Continent!

Could not disagree more with that equation. I have never understood this weird obsession with who does what part of the procedure and that the doctor doing it all is somehow better. The person who is best at doing that job in the procedure should be the one doing it. I just want a good result and it does not matter if it is the doctor, the techs or the guy in the alleyway doing it. Hasson and Wong is probably the best clinic in the world and they use an army of techs. Hattingen, techs. Feriduni, techs. Look for consistently good results over a substantial period of time (say, 5 years) and if it is a tech heavy clinic, ask them how long their techs have been with them to ensure it is the same techs that produced the previous results you have seen.

Picking a clinic based on location alone is silly, especially a location with such mediocre options if you take everything into account (price, results, length of time in business etc). You even admit that you can get a better result if you go to the Continent. Belgium and Switzerland have very decent options and you can get to Belgium and back by train from London. You also say you know it will be cheaper for the better result but then are reluctant to go for the best option of your shortlist based on price. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Just bite the bullet and go to the Continent.

UK are clinics are expensive and do not offer good results as compared to competition on the continent. You can either pay the same on the continent and get a much better result, or pay less for the same result. Either way, poor value for money. It will probably take you as long to get to Belgium, Spain, Portugal or Switzerland in the plane as it would in the train to wherever the UK based clinic is. I am yet to see a transplant from the UK that I think is amazing.

Your temple points look fine. I have had two FUTs and the scar is non-detectable, even to my girlfriend when she looks for it who knows it is there and where it is. Sounds to me like Mavigo went to a bad clinic, not that FUT is to blame.

Actors also wear hair pieces for their Hollywood shots - Travolta is renowned for it. Google John Travolta hairpiece and look on Google images. His hair changes with every red carpet event.

My brother went from close to NW1 to NW2-2.5 in terms of the hairline in his mid 40s. Has hair everywhere else.

Disagree. My girlfriend knows nothing about hair transplants and we saw somebody the other day and she said the guy's hair looks weird but couldn't make the connection. The problem was the same: hairline was too straight and the surgeon had put multis into the hairline so it just looked like a wall. Similarly I was watching a boxing podcast the other day and Spencer Oliver was on it. First thing I noticed (not an average Joe, admittedly) and it was the same issue. Straight hairline and too "thick" at the front with too many multis. Not good work. What didn't help with Spencer is that he was losing his hair at the back. Nobody has an 18 year old hairline and a balding crown in nature. The whole thing just looked weird. For the OP, some others have said nobody will notice but I think it is noticeable (supported by the fact people IRL have told you they think it is noticeable) and I think it is worth doing the repair for. However, do not put more singles in front of an already low hairline - this will also look unnatural. Get FUE and have them take the multis from the hairline and put them behind and then cherry pick singles from the back and sides and put them in the front. It is annoying (and costly) but not the end of the world. I also like the advice above of have them take some of the grafts from the temples and giving you a NW2 slight recession. As you age, this will look more age appropriate and natural. Other than that, I think they did a good job. Lots of density and it seems all the grafts have grown through. One more minor procedure with a very good clinic and you will look amazing and completely natural. Good luck!

Wait a few more months. Your donor has recovered, so it is reparable in that you have enough grafts to give you more coverage if you go to the right clinic. IMO you need to be having FUT for your next procedure, if you have one at all. As others have said, it is not necessary to have another as it looks natural. Sorry again this happened to you.

Yeah the doctor said 3-4 months too. Was just wondering what other people's experience was. I am not on meds and not going to start them either. This is my second procedure and I do not remember the shockloss being this bad last time. There is some directly on the back around the scar which is barely noticeable and then the area in question. I don't care if it is temporary and can wait the 3-4 months (it has already been two months), I am slightly concerned it will be permanent shockloss though. It is quite a large area. Funnily enough, I had a very small area of shockloss in close to where it is now last time and this was permanent.

Hello! I recently had a second FUT surgery and have some shock loss in the donor in one isolated section. How long on average does it take to grow back? Chances of it never growing back at all?

I am very sorry this happened to you. I think given the level of your hair loss, an FUT would be more appropriate. You may want to look at Hattingen in that case (I am biased as I have had two procedures done there). They do a lot of repairs and are experts in high yield FUT. Another clinic I think does great repair work is Feriduni, maybe add them to the least of clinics you are considering. Either way, I hope you get the result you wanted eventually and I am very impressed with how well you took this.

Sensible! I am thinking the same thing. I will speak to Sever and Laura next month and see what they say, but I want my chat with them to be a conversation and not them just telling me stuff. Hence why I wanted to see what other people's experiences are/have been. I have been given some good advice/information in the private messages and this seems to confirm that. It would still be great to hear from other people that have had it done or from doctors though. Can never have too much information!

Depends on the surgeon for the ugly duckling phase. Mine was barely noticeable even immediately after the surgery last time. Feel free to check my post (with photos) about when it was done. Very clean work. My point for question 3 is if I shave it, not just day to day. I have had an FUT before so I know the score. Re. Q1: Yeah this is what I thought too but somebody has inboxed me and said that if you have longer hair for the surgery, it allows the surgeon to follow the hair direction etc. My whole hair now, minus the forelock (which is starting to thin and therefore the most likely candidate for shockloss) is transplanted hair.

Hi! I am going to get a second surgery after my first with Hattingen. Probably this summer. I have a question though. I spoke to Sever several weeks ago online and he said we could do the surgery without me cutting my hair. I am trying to work out the best way to manage the surgery as I have a high profile job. I can take probably 6-8 weeks off work (probably 6 and not 8 ) by a combination of holidays and working from home. I have a few questions: 1) Do people think there is a risk of an inferior result of doing the surgery without cutting my hair i.e. having to work around the hair I have already in place (all transplant hair at this stage)? People not noticing I have had it done is one thing, but ultimately I am doing this to look better so if there is a risk I won't after, I may bite the bullet and shave my head (or at least cut the hair short). What are people's opinion/experience with this? 2) What are the chances of shock loss with the transplanted hair in my hairline and mid-scalp? 3) Anybody who can offer another strategy to minimise people knowing what has happened? Thanks Trix

Another fantastic result (already!) by Hattingen. This will be mega when it is finished. Any updates? After three years since my first one (I was the first to post on this forum I think), I am going back for my second pass at some time this year for the crown and to thicken the hairline. I hope to get 3000 grafts and this will be my final one. I will do an in-person consultation this month.