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Hi there, I am considering getting SMP in my FUT scar. Has anyone had this done with Rahal? Or just SMP in the scar? Would appreciate any thoughts? Thanks, Sid

Hi all, I had FUT about a month ago. I finding that my scalp is pretty dry as is the donor area. The doc suggested using olive oil, is there anything else I should use? Also is there any creams or anything I should use in the donor area? To help with healing? It's still a bit sensitive to touch. Thanks, Sid

Thanks Shera

Hi all, I had FUT done with a coalition doc on the 31st. Overall it's been a great experience. Couldn't have done it without HTN. Will post my pics etc soon. Wondering in terms of removing scabs, the doc said I should try to rub lightly on the grafts to remove the scabs after day 7. I am now at day 11 and I know most say the grafts are permanent after 10 days but I am still apprehensive about rubbing on the grafts. How important is it to rub the scabs off? I heard they usually fall off within 10-14 days. Will letting them naturally fall off affect growth? Will not rubbing them off be harmful? Thanks in advance, Sid

Thanks all. Great feedback.

Is there a primer somewhere about density? I've seen some online simulators talk about density as choosing between "full look" and "bald". What's typical in terms of grafts per cm2 to get a somewhat dense look? Thanks, Sid

Hi AB, Congrats on the procedure. It looks like some of the grafts were taken from the side of your cheek and not just under the jaw? Is this the case? Is that okay in terms of the risk of facial scarring? Seems like a choice between having facial hair and head hair? Thanks, Sod

Thanks Spex. Yes, I hear you. It seems like it's a real risk, although it's quite rare.

Thanks, just saw this. I guess it's a risk that we have to be willing to take. I've personally had a lot of bad luck with other medical procedures where there is low risk and I end up in the 1 percent category, experiencing the adverse effect. I am scheduled to get FUT soon and really concerned about this.

Hi guys, I booked my HT with a coalition doc in a little over a week. However, I am having cold feet after just having found a few posts on here and elsewhere about some people experiencing chronic pain/headaches for weeks/months or years in the donor area after having an HT. Some had to use antidepressants and strong pain meds like Lyrica for long periods of time/indefinitely. Many of the cases I found here seem to be after FUE but I think it’s possible with FUT as well. Examples on here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/142085-terrible-pain-donor-area-after-fue-procedure-11.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185340-donor-pain-continues-over-2-years-after-fue.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180284-continued-donor-area-pain-11-months-post-fue-any-advice.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/142085-terrible-pain-donor-area-after-fue-procedure.htm http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/163310-need-help-post-op-pain-nerve-damage.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183963-i-need-help-i-cannot-take-anymore.html Not sure if I am allowed to post these but these are from other sites: https://www.realself.com/question/dubai-ae-chronicle-pain-15-months-after-hair-transplant Pain after Hair Transplant - Neurology - MedHelp https://www.realself.com/question/indian-ak-nerve-pain-donor-area-after-hair-transplant-after-nerve-pain I read that this is due to Occipital neuralgia/neuopathic pain, where the occipital nerve in the donor area is cut and or damaged and doesn’t heal properly following FUT/FUE. I have also read that this may be caused by trauma to the occipital nerve during the administration of anesthesia. Has anyone on here had FUT and experienced pain or headaches that lasted months/years/continue to experience it? It seems like the risk is very low judging by the number of cases here/online but I don’t think there are any stats out there on this. I’ve had a lot of bad luck in the past with other medical procedures, so I know it’s possible to be a rare/exceptional case. I know going to a reputable doc reduces some risk but Is this just a risk of surgery I need to take? Am I blowing it out of proportion? If the risk is there, anything is possible right? Thanks in advance, Sid

Dr.Blake, is it still possible to have neuropathic pain from FUT? Have there been any cases where someone has had long term chronic pain in the FUT donor?

Any updates Bravo?

Has anyone got SMP with Dr.Rahal in Ottawa, Canada? Thanks, Sid

Hi all, I've been using Derrmatch for a few years now but I just found out that it has talc/talcum powder in it. Talc in large quantities has been discussed as a potential carcinogen which can cause cancer. I know the research on Talc isn't conclusive at this time but as we know with medical literature/corporations/industries, these things are often suppressed for profits and the truth sometimes comes out years after (if ever). Wondering if there are any other alternatives to Derrmatch, other than Couvre? I think Nanogen used to sell a similar product but I can't seem to find it anymore. Thoughts? Thanks, Sid

Thanks for clarifying guys, appreciate it.

Hi all, I tried to find the answer to this on the forum but haven't been able to. I am a bit confused about FUE. Is it possible to get grafts beyond the safe donor area in FUE, like the grafts above the safe donor zone (grafts which are not possible with FUT)? If so, how are these grafts not DHT resistant? Thanks, Sid

I think I am going to go with Dr.Path, get about 3000 grafts, then consider BHT for a second round, depending on how the first round goes.

Thanks Harin. Yes, I am hoping for a buzzed look. I have pretty good beard coverage, I think I am going to combine beard hair with donor and maybe add SMP.

Thanks HTsoon, I’ve contacted those guys. Yes I would need multiple procedures and this is not possible given my donor. Guess my logic is, if the HT can recreate the hairline to some degree, with SMP I could have a bit of a buzzed look. I used to buzz when I had more hair and I liked that look. Guess, worst case scenario, I’ll have a shaved head look with the SMP, but hopefully with transplanted hair in the front, SMP won’t look too fake. 1978matt, I feel like SMP alone is too much of a risk, I’ve seen so may examples online where the hairline looks like a tattoo, the rest of the head usually looks okay.

Pathan, I am in a similar situation as you. Your results looks pretty good. Keep us updated.

HTsoon, I live in Toronto Canada, would some of the HT surgeons be able to do a miniaturization test? None of the surgeons I consulted in person made note of this. I suppose if miniaturization is the issue, neither FUT or FUE would be a viable option? I was told with FUT I could get the most return, and there is a greater chance of the grafts surviving versus FUE. The scarring is a concern. Although, I’ve seen some decent examples of SMP in the donor scar, with guys keeping their hair short, but these are after all just pictures and I have not seen anyone in person. Isn’t the risk of failure greater with FUE? I’ve looked into hair systems but it just seems like an expensive huge life long hassle. I was thinking of full on SMP but the hairlines seem really fake. But if the front/hairline can be built, then SMP can potentially compliment it. BadBeat, good point, I didn’t realize that. Do you think FUE is better due to FUT scarring? Thanks again, Sid

Triple7 I have shaved my head in the past but the shaved head/beard really doesn't suit me and the industry that I work in. Hairthere, that looks decent. Since I probably will have to continue to keep my hair short due to poor density, I am worried about the scar. It seems like SMP may be a good option. I am guessing SMP in the donor scar is a better option for my skin tone/darker skin tones? What has been your experience. Thanks guys.

Hi all, I think I am at a Norwood 7 (attached pics--I usually use a trimmer at level 4 and keep it short, in the pic I had not trimmed my hair in about a week and a half). I've been told that it may be possible to obtain 3000-3500 grafts by 3 recommended physicians on here, which can be used to recreate the hairline/frame my face. For the remainder, some felt it would be possible to do SMP and keep my hair short (I already keep it short), as the hairline will not be dense. SMP would also be used to cover the scar. I know I won't ever be able to get full coverage with my limited/weak donor and extensive balding. But I feel SMP may be an option, if the hairline can be recreated to certain degree. I find the SMP hairlines look really fake. And FUT can add some texture, which SMP lacks. This seems to be a decent example: https://tophairlosstreatments.com/fue-and-smp-combination. A bit more about me, I am 31, have been using Rogaine for about 5 years on/off, used Propecia for 5 months but stopped due to pretty bad sexual sides. I can't seem to find too many examples of SMP after HT on here, have many people done it? Any thoughts, would really appreciate some feedback? Thanks, Sid

Yes, I also saw him for a free consult. He was terrible, unprofessional and all over the place, answering his phone twice during our meeting. He offered me a $2000 discount, if I took a spot a couple of weeks away and tried to pressure me into it. Then he proceeded to insult me by saying, I probably can't afford an HT and hence I am not accepting his offer. Money was definitely not the issue. Meanwhile I kept telling him I wanted to sleep on it and give it some thought. Then he called his hair systems sales person and offered the phone to me, without asking me if I wanted to talk to her. Avoid this piece of shit.

Really sorry that this happened to you. Was it 4000 grafts? FUT or FUE?