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  1. Originally posted by dpanet:

    Appreciate the replies so far, That what really makes this forum so valuable for all the baldies icon_biggrin.gif.

     

    I've seen Pat's post-ops , the end result is excellent, and this is exactly what my end result expectations are, I'm putting June as a month when I will reevaluate the progress again, hopefully by that time I can see a considerable amount of growth , otherwise I will be really , really disappointed.

     

     

    dpanet,

     

    this whole situations concerns me. You are saying you are setting June in your mind as the month when you will see results, but Pats205 is telling you, you have to wait 18 months. That won't be until next January. What are you going to do in June if you are not happy and Pats205 is telling you to wait another 6 months? Have you thought this far ahead?

     

    I am worried your anxiety is going to get even worse. you NEED a time-line series of pictures, not just one before and one after. month by month. Pats205 has this time series of photos for his strip surgery, I'm sure he has this for his FUE surgery. If he doesn't, that's a red flag....

     

    try to talk to other patients who had similar crown FUE work and see if you can find any that have a time series of photos from 8 to 18 months. see as many as you can since everyone is different, that way you'll have a range of what to expect.

  2. Ah, I did get that wrong about the March 07 surgery being strip. My mistake.

     

    However, your FUE procedure is still 2 years fully grown out, a perfect example for dpanet.

     

    Also, that means Pats205 crown FUE procedure of 2,400 grafts is extremely similar in number of grafts to dpanet's 2,500, so they should be even more comparable.

     

    It would be interesting to see the pictures here, but really it's more important that dpanet sees them. It sounds like he needs to see 8 month post op pics, and then pics showing more growth after that up to 18 months. I hope he gets to see them to ease his anxieties, he's obviously disappointed.

     

    wish you the best dpanet

  3. Originally posted by dpanet:

    .... for now I just wanted to know if the results are normal or matches to what other should expect by that time period....

     

    dpanet, everybody is different in their physiology. however, if you want to try to compare, why not ask Pats205 for his crown FUE pics? He had a 4,060 graft FUE transplant to his crown in March of 2007 so he is fully grown out and should be able to provide pictures showing the growth timeline. I realize 4,060 grafts is a lot more grafts than you had, but it can still give you an idea of how the crown fills in over time.

     

    as far as post op instructions...you are way past that point. the only thing you could be doing is taking Propecia and Rogaine at this point post op, but you said you aren't using those.

  4. Somethin definitely ain't right with this. This guy is Eurohair1621 on HairSite too.

     

    His pics on HairSite are being advertised as 2,505 grafts at 8 months post op. There is no mention on Hairsite of the 4,000 graft procedure two years ago at all.

     

    Also, eurohair1621 is none too bright... Pats205 started a thread with Eurohair1621's pics, and Eurohair1621 commented on the thread, saying

     

    "Absolutely amazing results!!! The density with only 2500 grafts is remarkable. "

  5. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10417589

     

    Dermatol Surg. 1999 Apr;25(4):311-5.

    The effects of topical vitamin E on the cosmetic appearance of scars.

     

    Baumann LS, Spencer J.

     

    University of Miami Department of Dermatology and Cutaneous Surgery, Miami, Florida, USA.

     

    Comment in:

     

    * Dermatol Surg. 1999 Aug;25(8):670-1.

    * Dermatol Surg. 1999 Oct;25(10):827.

     

    BACKGROUND: Vitamin E is a generic term for a group of tocol and tocotrienol derivatives. Since the discovery that vitamin E is the major lipid soluble antioxidant in skin, this substance has been tried for the treatment of almost every type of skin lesion imaginable. Anecdotal reports claim that vitamin E speeds wound healing and improves the cosmetic outcome of burns and other wounds. Many lay people use vitamin E on a regular basis to improve the outcome of scars and several physicians recommend topical vitamin E after skin surgery or resurfacing. OBJECTIVE: We attempted to determine whether topically applied vitamin E has any effect on the cosmetic appearance of scars as suggested by multiple anectodal reports. METHODS: Fifteen patients who had undergone skin cancer removal surgery were enrolled in the study. All wounds were primarily closed in 2 layers. After the surgery, the patients were given two ointments each labeled A or B. A was Aquaphor, a regular emollient, and the B was Aquaphor mixed with vitamin E. The scars were randomly divided into parts A and B. Patients were asked to put the A ointment on part A and the B ointment on part B twice daily for 4 weeks. The study was double blinded. The physicians and the patients independently evaluated the scars for cosmetic appearance on Weeks 1, 4, and 12. The criteria was simply to recognize which side of the scar looked better if there was any difference. The patients' and the physicians' opinions were recorded. A third blinded investigator was shown photographs of the outcomes and their opinion was also noted. RESULTS: The results of this study show that topically applied vitamin E does not help in improving the cosmetic appearance of scars and leads to a high incidence of contact dermatitis. CONCLUSIONS: This study shows that there is no benefit to the cosmetic outcome of scars by applying vitamin E after skin surgery and that the application of topical vitamin E may actually be detrimental to the cosmetic appearance of a scar. In 90% of the cases in this study, topical vitamin E either had no effect on, or actually worsened, the cosmetic appearance of scars. Of the patients studied, 33% developed a contact dermatitis to the vitamin E. Therefore we conclude that use of topical vitamin E on surgical wounds should be discouraged.

  6. I wonder about this. I don't know the answer.

     

    I know vitamin E thins the blood so can cause excessive bleeding if you take it in pill form. I don't know this for a fact, but I wonder what happens if you apply it topically, does it also absorb into the skin and affect the local blood vessels and cause excessive bleeding?

     

    On the other hand, just the fact that it's an oil will moisturize the scabs and loosen them and make the softer.

  7. Originally posted by Burberry:

    Hello everyone,

     

    I am new to this forum and I just wanted to share my experience with everyone here. I was a NW6 patient before I went in for my first FUE procedure with Dr. Antonio Armani. I have gone for 3 sessions totaling to 6500 FUE grafts.

    Dr. Armani has changed my life in so many ways and I am very happy with how everything turned out.

    Here's few pictures just to show the transformation of before/after.

     

     

    On your blog on HairSite you say your first procedure was done by Sara Armani, not Antonio Armani.

     

    Why the discrepancy?

  8. Hi Kelkoo,

     

    As it is right now, I can't give an honest answer if there is a problem with your donor.

     

    Can you post a current photo of your donor, now that it's 2 months post op. Can you post it in the exact same lighting conditions as your pre-op donor picture so there is no confusion?

     

    I can't figure out why your donor looks so different at 10 days post op in the picture you posted. You shouldn't have any shock loss at 10 days. It looks like it healed well. Shock loss at 10 days is way too early.

     

    I want to be sure the difference in your donor pictures is not due to lighting conditions. Also, it could be due to shorter hair.

     

    I think the only fair comparison is to have your hair at the same length it was in the before pic, and in the same lighting. Then you can really tell if there is an issue. Then if it still looks thin, post the pictures here and send them to the Armani clinic. If your donor is your main concern, I would want to talk to the exact person who did the donor extractions. Ask them what they saw on surgery day, and what they think of your 2 month photos, and if there is a problem. That is their job.

     

    Did they take a measurement of your donor density before the procedure? They should tell you this to see if you had low density even before the procedure.

     

    If you had 2000 grafts put into zones 1 and 2, that is 67cm2, so that is 30 grafts/cm2, which is a very reasonable number of grafts that shouldn't cause too much trauma or shock.

     

    I am worried for you that you are not on a hair loss medication. This can affect your donor too. Why are you not on a hair loss med? Is it for personal or medical reasons?

     

    I wanted to comment on your response to Balboa. This isn't a perfect world, but even so, in our imperfect world, it is the doctor's responsibility to get your "informed consent" before performing surgery. There is a law for this in Canada called the Health Care Consent Act (HCCA). A summary of it can be found on a web page of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO).

     

    http://www.cpso.on.ca/policies...default.aspx?id=1544

     

    It states

     

    "2. Consent must be informed

     

    Consent is not valid unless it is informed. A physician must provide a patient with information about the nature of the treatment, its expected benefits, its material risks and side effects, alternative courses of action and the likely consequences of not having the treatment. A physician should not assume that a patient has sufficient background or may not be interested in the information. Without full information, the patient does not have sufficient background to make informed health care decisions and consent may not be valid.

     

    If the patient requests additional information, he or she must receive a response. "

  9. Any pics would help. At 2 months most of the grafts should be gone and you can see how much redness you still have, if any. You shouldn't expect any growth yet, if you see growth now that is great.

     

    Shock loss in donor and recipient can be temporary or permanent, time will tell.

     

    2000 grafts spread out in zones 1 and 2 sounds much safer in terms of not causing shock.

     

    I have some questions, hoping you can answer....

     

    Did Sara or Antonio do your procedure?

     

    Why did you not choose to do any grafts in zone 3?

     

    Who did your extractions, Sara or Antonio?

     

    When did your scabs fall off?

     

    Did you go to Toronto or Dubai?

     

    What were the major risks you were informed of before hand?

     

    There does seem to be a noticeable difference in your donor after the procedure. Are you on meds like Propecia?

  10. I have been afraid to use generic Avodart since it's not available in the USA. The patent doesn't run out until 2013.

     

    However, generic Avodart is made by Dr Reddy's as Dutas, which seems to be a very reliable manufacturer. They are listed on the NYSE and supply many other generics to the US, including Finasteride.

     

    I am guessing their Dutas is just as good as their other drugs like Finasteride. The problem is... how to get the real stuff from Dr. Reddy's, and not some fake internet garbage, since there is no way to buy generic Avodart in the US at a trusty local pharmacy?

     

    Any help? My best guess is InHousePharmacy.

     

    Wondering if anyone has any brighter ideas?

     

    thank you

  11. Balboa,

     

    It's not totally a lost cause.

     

    There is another option.

     

    Dr. Armani is a member of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario. He went to medical school in Toronto and this is where he was licensed to first practice medicine, which subsequently gave him license to practice medicine in the United States.

     

    If you had your surgery in Toronto and feel you have a legitimate complaint against Dr. Antonio Alvi Armani, you can file a complaint with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario. Check out this web site for more information.

     

    http://www.cpso.on.ca/policies...default.aspx?id=1772

     

    You will indeed need supporting statements from other doctors, as you mentioned, such as a dermatologist or another hair transplant physician.

  12. From Wikipedia:

     

    Blackmail is the crime of threatening to reveal substantially true information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand made upon the victim is met. This information is usually of an embarrassing, socially damaging, and/or criminally-incriminating nature. As the information is substantially true, the act of revealing the information may not be criminal in its own right nor amount to a civil law defamation; the crime is making demands in exchange for withholding it. English Law creates a much broader definition of blackmail, covering any unwarranted demands with menaces, whether involving revealing information or not.

     

    I think Pats205 just admitted you're telling the truth Balboa.

  13. Here is an actual fact for you Pats.

     

    It's an e-mail you sent me Friday, November 21, 2008. I've attached it as a jpg.

     

    You complain that HTN is not a fair place for open discussion.

     

    I'll let everyone who reads your e-mail to me decide if you are encouraging open discussion.

    Pats_205_email.thumb.jpg.8825020d617da7f2d653b8b9ba5f0302.jpg

  14. I know there isn't always the best feelings between this site and Hair Loss Help, but I just felt the need to cut and paste this post from HLH for several reasons. One, it was made by Shane, who has now disappeared, and two, his BS would never have been tolerated here.

     

    I apologize if I violated any rules by posting this. If so, please feel free to remove it.

     

    I only post it in order to dispute Pats205 explanation to ChanYouZhe that his result is due to normal progression of male pattern baldness.

     

    According to this post, made by Shane O'Quinn, the Alvi Armani clinic can predict future hair loss by various means: mapping for miniaturization and family history. Were either of these methods used in ChanYouZhe's case?

     

    Shouldn't they have been able to predict the astoundingly rapid hair loss he was about to undergo and waited until his hair loss pattern was stabilized and obvious before performing surgery?

     

    What would be really helpful if ChanYouZhe has any pictures from the previous several years showing the rate of his hair loss before the procedure, and the rate of his hair loss after the surgery.

     

    Below is Shane's post...

     

    (link removed)

     

    12/04/2007 09:10 AM

     

    You can predict one's balding pattern by looking for signs of miniaturization and gathering information about the patient's family history of hair loss. While not 100%, nothing is, it's a good estimate and often used to evaluate your donor area, the size etc.

    - That's a fact

     

    Some of you guys do make me smile, honestly.

     

    Thank you.

     

     

    Edited: 12/04/2007 at 09:12 AM by Alvi Armani

  15. Ok...now I am curious and I am digging lol...

     

    check out this guy

     

    http://hair-restoration-info.c...=733100873#733100873

     

    his name is "mhrbad" He just posted August 19, 2009 about, well, that MHR is bad.

     

    I dunno..."bad"..."sucks"...seems like people are getting away with stuff ArmaniPatient got scolded for. I don't think it's fair to him. He seemed to be singled out. I guess I took some umbrage to this.

     

    I'm not going to go digging anymore for now, I could probably find more examples, but you get my drift.

  16. Originally posted by Bill - Associate Publisher:

     

    lanthanos,

     

    You must have dug long and hard for that one. It makes me wonder what your motivation is?

     

    But to address your concerns...

     

    This was over 2 and a half years ago and before my time as moderator.

     

    I'm not aware whether or not the terms of service have changed in the short time prior to when I became officially involved in August of 2007. However, now that I'm in charge of forum moderation, I'm trying to keep things more fair and balanced for patients and physicians. Patients are welcome to express their genuine experience, even if they're unhappy. But personal assaults are not and won't be permitted on anyone (patient or physician). This is clearly defined in our terms of service.

     

    Additionally, while patients are welcome to share their genuine opinions and experiences about any and all physicians, we believe that it's only fair that clinics have a chance to share their side of the story upon request. Due to HIPAA laws and the anonymity of forum aliases, this is virtually impossible without the patient's willingness to cooperate. However, to be fair, we may sometimes require patients to give their clinic their full name, date of surgery, and whatever permission they need to share their side of the story. For more information, see Maintaining a Fair and Safe Environment on our Forum for Patients and Physicians.

     

    Decisions we make will ultimately depend on the specifics of each situation as we evaluate them one at a time. But note that we do apply the terms of service and fair forum guidelines as we evalute each situation.

     

    I trust you understand the balance and fairness we're trying to maintain for everyone. I'm sure if you're real name was public, you would appreciate if I stopped someone from personally assassinating your character too.

     

    Bill

     

     

     

    Bill,

    I'm not going digging at all. You guys have a pretty cool search feature. I couldn't believe there weren't other people with aliases complaining about their doctors. I just did a quick search for "sucks" in patient names, and thought, wait, this doesn't seem fair to ArmaniPatient.

     

    I was confused since you said the terms of service had been in place for years. You didn't say how many years. I see now that you became moderator after HitzigSucks was posting, so you've probably done things a bit different than what was done before, which is a good thing, keeping things fair for both doctor and patient. That's how it should be, in my opinion.

     

    However, HitzigSucks posts are still there on your site. If every doctor and poster is treated the same, I think HitzigSucks should be changed to HitzigPatient in fairness to ArmaniPatient.

     

    What I'm saying is actually not any different from what I think you're saying. You're trying to maintain balance and fairness for everyone. Meaning, everyone plays by the same rules. In my opinion, I don't feel this is fair to ArmaniPatient, and he seemed a little upset about his name change also. I now really feel he is being treated unfairly since other posters are allowed to use names like HitzigSucks.

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